Dcapetto wrote: Where does it say god given anything? Here is our constitution find me the passage that says god given. The Newest Liberal Criminal Assault The Right To Self Defense
Dear Comrade Cap,
Books are for reading, not just for burning.
"Man ... must necessarily be subject to the laws of his Creator. This will of his Maker is called the law of nature.... This law of nature...is of course superior to any other.... No human laws are of any validity, if contrary to this: and such of them as are valid derive all their force...from this original." - Sir William Blackstone
This is why in the country’s founding document, the Declaration of Independence, the founders referred to certain rights that men were “endowed” with that were “inalienable”-- that is rights that could not be taken away from men.
To do so would be contrary to nature.
Governments were formed amongst men to secure those rights, not grant them.
But I’m glad you brought it up because this is what is at the crux of the dispute between NeoLibs and the rest of the country.
And, of course, this is why liberals like you have so screwed up government these days.
Obama and his cohorts-- like you-- really do think that governments grant rights to citizens, when in fact, governments grant nothing. Governments only derive their powers from the consent of the governed to secure rights.
But in Obama’s view-- and yours-- not only do governments grant rights to citizens, he thinks that governments also have the ability to make up new rights for certain sections of the population.
And here’s why he does: Obama believes that there is no such thing as natural law.
And he believes this because to believe the the contrary would have to admit of some higher law or being, like God.
And he must not admit of that or his scheme of government won’t work. Natural law, you see, admits of limitations to government.
“When We The People allow the government to grant us ‘rights’ such as health care or education,” writes Jason McNew in American Thinker, “we are now making the government the purveyor of our rights, instead of our Creator. If you think this is okay, you are a fool and there is a boxcar or relocation camp waiting for you or your descendants someday.”
McNew then ask readers to peruse a copy of Chapter X of the 1936 CONSTITUTION OF THE USSR.
Unlike the U.S. constitution, which is a document that limits government power to secure the rights of man, the Commie constitution is a list of affirmative powers granted the government to regulate the lives of citizens.
It reads like the Party Platform of the Democrats circa 2012 and beyond:
ARTICLE 118. Citizens of the U.S.S.R. have the right to work, that is, are guaranteed the right to employment and payment for their work in accordance With its quantity and quality.
The right to work is ensured by the socialist organization of the national economy, the steady growth of the productive forces of Soviet society, the elimination of the possibility of economic crises, and the abolition of unemployment.
ARTICLE 119. Citizens of the U.S.S.R. have the right to rest and leisure. The right to rest and leisure is ensured by the reduction of the working day to seven hours for the overwhelming majority of the workers, the institution of annual vacations with full pay for workers and employees and the provision of a wide network of sanatoria, rest homes and clubs for the accommodation of the working people.
ARTICLE 120. Citizens of the U.S.S.R. have the right to maintenance in old age and also in case of sickness or loss of capacity to work. This right is ensured by the extensive development of social insurance of workers and employees at state expense, free medical service for the working people and the provision of a wide network of health resorts for the use of the working people.
ARTICLE 121. Citizens of the U.S.S.R. have the right to education. This right is ensured by universal, compulsory elementary education; by education, including higher education, being free of charge; by the system of state stipends for the overwhelming majority of students in the universities and colleges; by instruction in schools being conducted in the native Ianguage, and by the organization in the factories, state farms, machine and tractor stations and collective farms of free vocational, technical and agronomic training for the working people.
ARTICLE 122. Women in the U.S.S.R. are accorded equal rights with men in all spheres of economic, state, cultural, social and political life. The possibility of exercising these rights is ensured to women by granting them an equal right with men to work, payment for work, rest and leisure, social insurance and education, and by state protection of the interests of mother and child, prematernity and maternity leave with full pay, and the provision of a wide network of maternity homes, nurseries and kindergartens.
Jnapishere wrote: Yes, it nice to think of Christmas as a holiday that everyone likes and enjoys but suppose an Islamist group wanted to do the same thing at a school when celebrating the birth of Mohammad and asked all women that bring gifts to wear a head scarf, as a sign of respect and the men to grow a beard? " In The Name of All Humans: Let’s Separate The Poor From Their Shoe Boxes
Dear Comrade J-Nap,
I don’t think too many 12-year old boys can grow beards so I’m really not worried. But I don’t think people would have a problem with burquas, per se, if it weren’t for the barbarity of the practices it represents towards women, like female circumcision, chattel slavery, violations of natural rights, etc.
I go to a Eastern Catholic church where some women wear veils. No one thinks twice about it.
Yes, Christmas is a holiday that people enjoy. 95 percent of Americans celebrate Christmas in some form.
Do you know why?
Because in the ways that man can measure things, the Western way of life has proved far superior to the economic, religious and societal models practiced by others, including Islam.
Free markets and free societies are responsible for lifting more people out of poverty than any two forces in history. Free markets and free societies are the natural result of the spread of Judeo-Christian values.
Anyway, at issue was a piece of paper espousing Christian ideas that came along with gifts for poor kids.
What a horror!
No one was actually proselytizing about Christ at schools.
If Islamists wanted to distribute gift boxes instead of beheading people with bread and butcher knives, I think most people would have a different reaction to radical Islam than they do today.
Which dude with a beard would you rather have representing the best of America?
Santa Claus or an Ayatollah?
Rx7pj wrote: What the hell makes you think you have lost the constitution , liberty or freedom??? I haven't lost any of these things and if yo live here either have you. Quit parroting this right winged garbage. Eeewww! Amycare for US Senate
Dear Comrade RX,
I could write a book about how we’ve lost the constitutional limitations on government, but others have already done that job for me.
Here’s a few: Never Enough: America's Limitless Welfare State ;
Instead of just parroting Left-Wing garbage, you should probably try reading those books.
But more to your point, yes, I think that when the United States' government monitors all Internet traffic, monitors every single domestic telephone call for pattern recognition; when governments install video monitoring devices at every intersection; when the government guarantees entire industries like banking, real estate, autos, the university system, and now healthcare; when the plain language of the Second Amendment-- that says the right to keep and bear arms shall NOT be abridged-- is abridged to only include specific people who can keep and bear arms; when the government starts tracking children in the womb with personally identifiable information– children who they don’t even recognize as humans under their reading of the constitution—in order to promote some liberal idea of education reform; when that government does all that, then, yes, we have lost the constitution, our liberty and our rights.
When you add up the economic activity in so-called "private industry" that the government controls, you get a sense why government as a percentage of our GDP is over 40 percent, rivaling the years of World War II when 19 million American men were in uniform.
Real Estate +6.3%; Autos +3.3%; K-12 +5.7%; College +3.1; Healthcare +17.9%. That comes out to 36.3% of GDP in industries closely controlled by the government. If you add in just Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and the big six systemic banks that the federal government guarantees, you can figure on another $18 trillion in assets that the government closely controls. Our entire GDP for a year is around $16 trillion.
Seriously. Try reading books.
If you can’t see the intersection between the government and our economy in constitutional terms, then let’s just say there really is no difference between you and communists.
But of course, that’s why I call you comrade.
Reginald10 wrote: Yes, and we need to replace strychnine with arsenic, because strychnine is poisonous. Eeewww! Amycare for US Senate
Dear Comrade Reggie,
I think you made the right choice for your career when you switched to the name "Elton John." But I was never a fan of either the glasses or the platform shoes. Or Princess Di.
Drayburn wrote [with both fine gramear and speliing]: So Johnny Boy you have lost your faith in God, becoming a Loin of the Devil wondering around stealing souls, at least God found use for a donkey riding it though the city. As most Republicans the Devil has made his deals with for there great power over others and blind them to reality and fact, there comes the time to pay the piper, well time to pay little man time to pay. The braking of the Republican bubble has come for them to face there hate and lies they spread for years. We Are Lions That Are Lead By Donkeys
Dear Comrade Dray,
You seem to be suffering from a flight of ideas or some other similar thought disorder. Or perhaps it’s derailment of ideas.
The good news is that these conditions are covered under Obamacare.
The bad new is that you probably need an exorcism too.
And what d'ya know? Not covered under Obamacare, yet!
I know. I’m surprised too.
"For the devil has come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.” - Revelation of John 12:12
It is not I that is rolling out a broken healthcare system because I have such a short time left to accomplish my goal.
But then when has Obama ever cared for the consequences to his party or his country when contemplating anything?
Look, I’m not saying Obama’s the devil. He’s not bright enough for that.
But his works are certainly devilish.
Remember those terrible Republican conservatives who wanted to delay the implementation of Obamacare?
It looks like they were the only ones who knew what the hell they were talking about.
You know it’s bad when Ezra Klein, my favorite idiot, thinks there are problems with Obamacare much bigger than the website:
To understand why these problems are so dangerous to Obamacare it's helpful to understand how the Obama administration thinks about Obamacare.
With my colleague Sarah Kliff, I spent much of May and June working on that. What we wanted to know -- and asked repeatedly -- was how administration officials defined success for the health care law.
Here is what we learned: “To the White House, the difference between success and failure is straightforward: They need to entice a sufficient number of young and healthy adults into the new insurance marketplaces that open Oct. 1.”
I want to be clear on this: No one said that success was letting kids up to age 26 stay on their parents' insurance plan. No one said it was regulating insurers or covering preventive care. Instead, everyone in the White House shared a singular definition: Success meant setting up the exchanges and attracting enough young people that premiums stayed low.
And he concluded:
The problem is precisely that the people who really need insurance will be patient and persistent. The people who don't need insurance as badly may not be. And if that happens, then in year two, costs are going to rise sharply for those sicker, older people left in the exchanges. And Republicans who see Obamacare's problems as a path to success in 2014 won't even think about expanding Medicaid.
When ANY liberal is being this honest it’s refreshing.
But Klein has made supporting Obamacare his raison d'être for the better part of the last 4 years. And make no mistake, he still a fan. He’s trying to save Obamacare, but he says there isn’t much time: “The White House has time to right the ship. But not much. Health-care experts suggest the Web site needs to be running smoothly by Thanksgiving at the latest.”
Just another thing to be thankful for on Thanksgiving Day.
“Give me six hours to chop down a tree,” said Lincoln, “and I will spend the first four sharpening the axe.”
Obama blew his four hours. He’s got two left.
Goldilocks wrote: When did conservatives become lions? We Are Lions That Are Lead By Donkeys Goldilocks also wrote: If conservatives are lions, then conservatives are not pachyderms. So conservatives are PINOs!
Dear Comrade Goldi,
You too will qualify for free mental health-screenings under Obamacare. I hear they are coming up with a combined concealed-carry permit, NSA job application, IRS non-profit designation and Obamacare registration all in one.
Anyone who fills it out is automatically registered as a Democrat and their prescriptions arrive in the mail.
And the best part? I hear you won’t even have to show up to vote. They make the vote selections for you with one of the “Obamacare-approved” candidates. And if there’s a generic alternative, that’s covered as well.
I didn’t call conservatives lions.
I called the American people “lions.”
Churchill, a lion himself, was half-American and somewhat of a visionary on the importance of the USA.
And despite the shackles and fetters with which they try to bind us, there are still more lions in America than there are donkeys. American solutions to problems tend to come organically out of individuals, not groups, at any event.
In fact, I called out the elites on ALL sides for letting us down. They are the donkeys in this scenario:
In many senses the government, the politicians, the media, our newspapers, our radio stations, our chambers of commerce, our professional sports leagues, our schools, our universities, our court system, Democrats and Republicans alike, defaulted a long time ago.
OL1 wrote: We love you John. You, President Obama, and Ted Cruz are creating a much stronger Democratic Party by not understanding or participating in this democracy. Keep up the good work. It’s Stupid, Obamacare
Dear Comrade OL1,
Does Obama know you are using his patented number one?
I’m OK with it, but is he?
Not to worry, even now I am holding up one finger and shouting “You’re number one.”
Guess which finger?
The real numbers I’m looking at however say that whatever you might think of Ted Cruz, in the long wrong, he’ll be remembered as the guy who implored Washington to get rid of Obamacare before disaster struck.
Blame who you want but the law was poorly thought out, even worse in execution, and clearly will be a big issue in next year’s upcoming election.
Obama’s approval rating is as low as it’s ever been and unless he has magic pixie dust and a herd of unicorns to fix the monument to himself disguised as “healthcare reform,” it’ll get worse.
The 2010 mid terms were about government overreach. The 2014 midterms will be about that too, plus government incompetence.
Elucidated wrote: John, it's understandable that you have reduced your lexicon to "stupid' when describing Obamacare. . .since you are angry that the GOP just got a big whooping. But in my case, I have a tiny difference of opinion. You see, I have a son with seizures who was denied health insurance last year. Do you have any idea how our lives have been effected by private insurance playing the God card to save money? It’s Stupid, Obamacare
Dear Comrade Elucidated,
I’m sorry that your son was denied coverage.
I think, however, you’ve mistaken me --and the rest of America for that matter-- as a giant call-center and complaint department.
"Helloooooo, I care. Oh, wait. I don't." Click.
My family has it’s own issues. I don’t make you responsible for them, do I?
If you want high quality healthcare, then you should ask the government to get out of healthcare entirely.
Let me boil it down for you: Healthcare in this country suffers from the same delusion that many things the government gets involved does.
This is the delusion that you can get people who don’t get many—or any—benefits to pay for people who get many—or most—of the benefits.
There is very little difference between the ponzi scheme that is Social Security and the scheme that’s known as Obamcare. Both rely on people who don’t get a benefit to support those who get the benefits today.
“As an individual who undertakes to live by borrowing,” said Lincoln, “soon finds his original means devoured by interest, and next no one left to borrow from - so must it be with a new government.”
BTW- I need you to come by next week and write a check for my mortgage. It’s been a bad few months for me, and I’m a little short.
That's the same argument you are using.
BSullivan848 wrote: Oh John NOW you want to move center? Good Luck after spreading misinformation and to where we are know worried about the next move of the extremist you and your party have become? The Great Default Already Happened
Dear Comrade Sully,
Oh, we’re the extremists?
Kids can’t even dress up as “Indians” anymore.
From Opposing Views:
The University of Colorado Boulder has instructed its students not to wear "offensive" Halloween costumes such as cowboys, Indians, sombreros, white trash or anything that shows any culture as being "over-sexualized."
In addition to the costume censorship, the college is telling students not to have parties that include ghettos, hillbillies, crime and sex work, notes The Telegraph.
I guess free speech doesn’t apply anymore, huh?
All this from the Land of Fruit and Nuts we call the Democrat Party.
But then, I'm the extremist.
Ericynot1 wrote: "Bush inherited a financial crisis at the beginning of his presidency, a crisis that was wholly unforeseen as well"
Ransom must have been traveling intergalactically for a few years in the late '90's. For at least two years prior to the Dotcom bubble crash, financial writers had been predicting it to happen. The only real question was how the crash managed to hold off for as long as it did. Here’s To The Yahoo’s Who Ruined A Perfectly Good Shutdown
Dear Comrade EricY!,
I was actually working in venture capital at the time. I knew as well anyone what was up. I never got caught up in the dot-com bubble. My clients prior to that were in the stock market, but, generally speaking, I’m a value guy when it comes to stock purchases.
Having said that, I don’t know what your comments have to do with Bush.
He was responsible for the dot-com crash? Before he was president?
The crisis that he inherited, the one that was unforeseen, was the attack on the World Trade Center, which blew about 0.5% off of GDP for that year.
And if a big majority of financial writers had predicted the crash many years before, the crash never would have happened.
Instead, there would have been an orderly retreat in the stock market, as the public reacted to changing media opinion. That’s how the market works. At any given time there are writers who are bearish on the market, like Doug Kass, who one day are right.
That doesn’t change the fact that those bears missed one of the all-time great bull markets for about a ten-year period because they are permanent bears on the market.
Of the two of us, comrade, there is only one who has an intergalactic problem with reality.
It’s not I.
That's it for this week,