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Thursday, August 27, 2009
Steve Chapman :: Townhall.com Columnist
Rationalizing Torture
by Steve Chapman
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Americans are practical people, which is why they tend to pay heed when Dick Cheney says the harsh methods used by the CIA on suspected terrorists were not merely efficacious but indispensable. The intelligence derived from these interrogations, he assures us, "saved lives and prevented terrorist attacks."

Did they really? The report released Monday, done by the CIA's inspector general back in 2004, didn't support Cheney's claim. It said "there is no doubt" that the detention and questioning of detainees "has been effective."

But the report reached no judgment on "enhanced interrogation techniques," saying, "The effectiveness of particular interrogation techniques in eliciting information that might not otherwise have been obtained cannot be so easily measured."

Most conservatives, however, don't want to hear any naysaying. They have lined up in vociferous defense of the Bush administration and every tool it adopted in the war on terrorism. And they are up in arms over Atty. Gen. Eric Holder's decision to open a preliminary inquiry into whether laws were broken by the CIA.

In this, they have two basic lines of argument. The first is to mock the idea that anything done by the agency amounted to torture. A Wall Street Journal editorial said, "Millions of Americans will be shocked to learn that these unshocking details are all that the uproar over 'torture' is about." In the New York Post, Ralph Peters groused that the CIA was being castigated for "rudeness to mass murderers."

But there is really no doubt that the agency engaged in severe cruelty. No less an authority than last year's Republican presidential nominee regards waterboarding as torture. The IG's report noted that though the method was permitted under specified conditions, the interrogators overstepped those limits.

It was not the only brutal practice. The report says a CIA officer choked a prisoner till he was nearly unconscious -- then revived him so he could be choked some more. It says an interrogator revved a power drill to frighten a naked, hooded prisoner. CIA personnel reportedly lifted one detainee up by his arms, which were tied behind his back, causing one employee to fear his shoulders would be dislocated.

The agency's guidelines, we learn, authorize interrogators to slam a prisoner up against the wall "20 or 30 times consecutively." They may force captives to stay awake for as long as 180 hours -- seven and a half days. They may force them to stand or kneel in painful positions for long periods.

If none of that shocks you, consider this: More than 100 detainees have died in U.S. custody over the last eight years, and the CIA has been implicated in some of the deaths. Retired Army Gen. Barry McCaffrey says dozens of prisoners were "murdered." Continued...

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How can you say...Mr. Chapman,
or intimate that the interrogation techniques either didn't work, or we might achieve the same goals using others methods, which you don't really know about and at the same time say and describe techniques that you are not positive about; it appears that you are only sure about the former and not the latter, which is puzzling; and you are not willing to give those in charge of keeping you and your family safe, along with America, some credibilty is further puzzlement!! On a personal level, and this is certainly not original here, would you use torture to find the whereabouts of your child to prevent that child's death?

reply to IX-XI
When will you conservatives get a lick of sense? You write:

"Every socialist scheme ever devised has eventually devolved into denying individual rights, enslaving the populace and eventually murdering those who disagree."

Sweden and other Scandinavian countries have had socialist governments at various points their recent history, and Britain has a socialist government whenever the Labor Party is in power. None of these countries had traced the apocalyptic path you think is inevitable. And when the voters choose to put a non-socialist party into power, everywhere in Western Europe socialist parties have stepped down peacefully.

Put less politely, you don't know jack about real-world politics; you're content to let idiotic cliches determine your thinking. Actually, what I just said was redundant; you're a conservative, so my expectations should be low.
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