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Ryan302 Wrote: Jul 01, 2010 4:10 PM

There is something known as "agricultural engineering". This field is involved with the mechanization of agriculture. In short, there are harvesting machines to do the jobs that illegals are doing. Big business with big labor pulled out all stops to stop the development of machines.

This is bad in more ways than one. Building machines like these could help bring about the re-industrialization of America and provide decent paying jobs in manufacturing, instead of low wage service economy jobs.

http://www.vdare.com/misc/archive00/mechanization.htm

As for the lettuce nonsense that McCain tried to pull there is a lot of information on that showing that he doesn't know what he is talking about. For example:

"About...

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dreadnaught2 Wrote: Jul 01, 2010 3:23 PM

The Axe hole:

". . . there are people who don't want to secure the borders."

Sure; there must be. Yet we have a Border Patrol; and a fence of sorts. Cattle can be kept out.

"Those are the people who hire illegals to do cheap labor so they don't have to pay good wages to Americans." (Cretinspeak.)

That's not so, Cretino. When the peon was working for pesos, he kept dreaming of making dolares across the border. The dream came true, thanks to those employers you hate so much.

They'd otherwise be stuck with numb-nuts who don't like it out in the sun all day. Guys like EWE, Guy. The work would go undone.

Also; our onions would go up to $2.50 a lb; a 2 buck melon...

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dreadnaught2 Wrote: Jul 01, 2010 3:04 PM

I loved the Bill Dana character. How far would he get in Tuscon today; before the cop signaled him pull over?

Or, Texas; maybe going to adopt the same law? I wonder if old Lee Trevino would appreciate some rookie cop telling him abruptly, "Get out of the car, Sir. NOW!"

?????????? Super Mex! Don't you have your proof of citizenship with you? Lol!!!

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dreadnaught2 Wrote: Jul 01, 2010 2:56 PM

Hi, Li'l Miss! Saw your cute post:

". . . about the cop abusing
privacy rights of immigrants!"

Wow!

That means each & every day laborer that cop pulls over is sure to be an illegal alien? If only it could be so. This law would become an essential one for AZ. But what if the guy's an American citizen? So, a victim of racial profiling? Would his grievance come to the attention of that police department? Probably not at first, but in due time;

a lawsuit against the cops would make public how that LAW promotes racial discrimination in AZ.

You go on: ". . . What is more important? Do we always look the other way and let illegal Hispanics invade the USA and abuse our law etc.,...

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Dottie20 Wrote: Jun 28, 2010 8:57 AM

When I was in Italy, I had to show a passport in order to get my hotel room! I was unfairly profiled! What business is it of theirs what country I came from? Was it their business if I was in their country legally or not? According to Axeboy, the people that made that law are nothing but Hitlers! I should have raised a ruckus!!!!

I do not see Gov. Brewer scapegoating Mexicans. I see her trying to deal with a problem that the feds won't deal with! Check out the Mexican laws pertaining to illegals in their country, Axey...to whom do you want to compare them?

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Careful with that axe, Eugene Wrote: Jun 28, 2010 6:22 AM

That's simply not true, and if you did basic research, you'd know this.

"Nationwide, deportations have also increased, with nearly 350,000 immigrants sent home through September 2008, compared with about 174,000 in the same period in 2004."

http://askville.amazon.com/illegal-immigrants-federal-offic e-deport-year/AnswerViewer.do?requestId=14037295

Now, true, with 20 million of them here, it's bailing out a boat with a teacup... but the fact is, the government is sending these people home... and they come right back.

Which brings me back to my point. You want to end this,...

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albert henry Wrote: Jun 28, 2010 6:10 AM

They don't hunt down any. Try to focus. The Federal government is doing nothing, and at present is hindering efforts of states.

I wonder how much the Feds make in tax receipts from collecting multiple taxes, from a single social security card

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Careful with that axe, Eugene Wrote: Jun 28, 2010 5:34 AM

So you were able to determine the citizenship status of all those people who were running you over getting to the food stamp and emergency room lines? Or did they just look too brown for you?

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Careful with that axe, Eugene Wrote: Jun 28, 2010 5:29 AM

"so the resources being spent on il-legals don't matter?

the number of il-legals in jail for violent crimes don't matter??

the gangs here in the US don't matter?????

and that you just had to bring us Hilter....
is that the best you've got, pathetic worm?
his gaol was to kill ALL Jews (and others).
we just want the il-legals to go home or to stop draining us. real great comparrison......

your claimed "degree" in history is a worthless as obama's birth certificate (and just as imaginary)"

No, I'm reasonably sure Obama was born... although I suspect you guys think he was created in a lab in Kenya somewhere...

To the point, yeah, those things you worry about don't really matter that...

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Careful with that axe, Eugene Wrote: Jun 28, 2010 5:23 AM

"more to the point, illegals are here illegally. The oldest trick in the book is not to focus on the problem at hand that someone doesn't want to solve, such as secure our borders. There are rules, see constitution, oh great history major."

Please point out to me where in the constitution it says we need to hunt down every "illegal" immigrant.

Oh, I agree, there are people who don't want to secure the borders. Those are the people who hire illegals to do cheap labor so they don't have to pay good wages to Americans.

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Marc_H Wrote: Jun 27, 2010 11:50 PM

so the resources being spent on il-legals don't matter?

the number of il-legals in jail for violent crimes don't matter??

the gangs here in the US don't matter?????

and that you just had to bring us Hilter....
is that the best you've got, pathetic worm?
his gaol was to kill ALL Jews (and others).
we just want the il-legals to go home or to stop draining us. real great comparrison......

your claimed "degree" in history is a worthless as obama's birth certificate (and just as imaginary)

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douglas228 Wrote: Jun 27, 2010 9:36 PM

first Government numbers CANT BE TRUSTED they ove to LIE, second I lived for 60 years, and most of it was in CALIF where MOST illegals end up. And they DO COLLECT welfare, even while the boyfriend works so dont tell me. I have sisters, neices and friends who work as managers at apts and so I know how many are recieving housing, at up to 1700 a month, TAXPAYERS money, I see them at the market using their welfare credit cards, so sell the denial elsewhere, I also have a friend who is on welfare who sits in the emergancy room for a cold, and watch as its full to the brim with MEXICANS with colds doing thew same so I dont buy lies. I have eyes and my own BRAIN!!!!!

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albert henry Wrote: Jun 27, 2010 9:18 PM

more to the point, illegals are here illegally. The oldest trick in the book is not to focus on the problem at hand that someone doesn't want to solve, such as secure our borders. There are rules, see constitution, oh great history major.

Was that your rank?

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Careful with that axe, Eugene Wrote: Jun 27, 2010 8:43 PM

"You have removed all doubt. You are a fool. Only a mindless twit would even start to think of that equation. History, its an interesting study. Unfortunately it requires comprehension, which leaves you out."

Me- I've got a degree in history, guy. It's the oldest trick in the book. Blame some group on the outside that can't fight back. Hitler did this, and we see the GOP doing the same.

Your quality of life is declining from what your parents had. Must be those damned illegals. I mean, they are foreign and stuff. They don't even speak English and like hot dogs like you do!

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Careful with that axe, Eugene Wrote: Jun 27, 2010 8:41 PM

"For beginners, DO NOT call me a "Tommy Boy"! I'm a 70-year-old retired Navy Submariner who has more experience with law enforcement that you will ever have, you spineless jerko!
Secondly, how do you know it's written that way? Have you read it? Has it been implemented yet and the cops are doing that? Quick answer: NO). Why do you want to raise he!! about someone trying to protect their own interests? I just wish the dim-witted liberal Democraps here in WA State would have the ba11s to do what AZ has done."

it doesn't matter how it's been "written", it matters how it is going to be applied. It directs police to enforce immigration law, a province of the FEDERAL government, not the state or local governments.

Honestly,...

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Bobblehead Wrote: Jun 27, 2010 7:48 PM

"But, gee, we are talking about a politician who is trying to blame her problems on a minority...

Just like Hitler did."

You have removed all doubt. You are a fool. Only a mindless twit would even start to think of that equation. History, its an interesting study. Unfortunately it requires comprehension, which leaves you out.

I'd tell you to be careful with that axe yer swingin' but that would be to no avail. Both legs gone at the knees and you still don't have a clue.

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Ryan302 Wrote: Jun 27, 2010 7:30 PM

with their "friend" of the court brief challenging Arizona's law.

"In addition, Mexico is gravely concerned that SB 1070 will lead to disparate treatment among Mexican nationals in the U.S., as well as disparate treatment as compared to U.S. citizens…"

My advice is to stay the hell out if you don't have a visa, etc., to be here.

http://blog.vdare.com/archives/2010/06/26/mexicos-outrageou s-brief-against-arizonas-sb-1070/

It's bad enought that there are people in this country who don't understand the Constitution without the Mexican govt. sticking its nose where it doesn't belong by...

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albert henry Wrote: Jun 27, 2010 6:48 PM

We have New Mexico. Its time to add old Mexico as the 51st state, since they are dependent on our money, and travel here unchecked any way. Put it to a vote with the legal citizens of Mexico here illegally. That should give as an edge. Just a thought.

By the way careful, you should read the context of my post. I am not a Mexican hater. I have been married to the lovely Rita for 28 years. Both sides of her family Mexican. All of my offspring have Mexican heritage. My cousin Nacho was here today. He carries a green card. I told them what you said, they agreed you are nuts. Just so you know, I have no problemos with the Mexican, Its their government and religion I detest. Cure that, you will cure the problem. But then...

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Richard552 Wrote: Jun 27, 2010 6:32 PM

This president is a useless wimp.They won't close the border because he needs every vote he can get,if you remember when asked acorn said they were signing up Democrats for Obama and they didn't if they were legal or not.What he wants is a major race riot.Then he can declare nationl law and take over everything that he hasn't done by now and shut the internet down.Then like Girbles during the 2nd war you will only hear and read what they want you to read.ABc,CBS,NBC,CNN,MSNBC they are in Obamas pocket and refuse to air annything except show you when he walks on water.Black has nothing do with it.He is so damn smart in thinking,but o so stupid in doing

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Kenny Z Wrote: Jun 27, 2010 6:00 PM

Remember in November, register to vote, vote in the primaries, and especially vote in November (4 more months). Tell everyone you know and ask them to tell everyone they know. OUR COUNTRY IS AT STAKE. We can save her with our votes.

God bless America.

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miss vicky Wrote: Jun 27, 2010 5:57 PM

tune if they lived near the Borders. The do nothing Federal Government, under the thumb of the all powerful Democratic 'Powers that be', will not do their job to enforce the immigration law and the reason is obvious. The self-serving President and his Cronies want The Mexican VOTE and Obamacan'ts want their leaders favor! Shameful!

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miss vicky Wrote: Jun 27, 2010 5:57 PM

tune if they lived near the Borders. The do nothing Federal Government, under the thumb of the all powerful Democratic 'Powers that be', will not do their job to enforce the immigration law and the reason is obvious. The self-serving President and his Cronies want The Mexican VOTE and Obamacan'ts want their leaders favor! Shameful!

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homer noble Wrote: Jun 27, 2010 5:57 PM

the meddling of Obama. Now if Obama would step aside and let Arizona manage their illegal immigrant problem, ND wouldn't have to do it for them.

No political confrontation in North Dakota
where border patrol agents arrested 32 illegal immigrants on May 14, 2010, in Oakes, ND.

Oakes Police Chief Mark Roberts said his department made "a registration and erratic driving stop" and called in Border Agents to assist with translations. Some of those involved in the stop were Mexican nationals, were in the country illegally, and have been detained.

According to Oakes, in his area there is a high level of mutual trust and cooperation between law enforcement agencies and the Border Patrol. The illegal immigrants will...

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Tom1393 Wrote: Jun 27, 2010 5:54 PM

Kudos!

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Tom1393 Wrote: Jun 27, 2010 5:52 PM

For beginners, DO NOT call me a "Tommy Boy"! I'm a 70-year-old retired Navy Submariner who has more experience with law enforcement that you will ever have, you spineless jerko!
Secondly, how do you know it's written that way? Have you read it? Has it been implemented yet and the cops are doing that? Quick answer: NO). Why do you want to raise he!! about someone trying to protect their own interests? I just wish the dim-witted liberal Democraps here in WA State would have the ba11s to do what AZ has done.

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