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Tuesday, October 21, 2008
Thomas Sowell :: Townhall.com Columnist
Polls and Pols
by Thomas Sowell
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Will the Dems' health care Christmas Present to America be an improvement or detriment to our health care system?


It may seem hardly worthwhile going to the polls to vote this election year, since ACORN and the media have already decided that Barack Obama is to be the next President of the United States.

Still, it may take more than voter fraud and media spin to put Senator Obama in the White House. Most public opinion polls show Obama ahead, but not usually by decisive margins, and sometimes by a difference within the margin of error.

There has been a history of various polls over the years projecting bigger votes for the Democrats' presidential candidate in October than that candidate actually gets in November.

Some of these polls seem like they are not trying to report facts but to create an impression. One poll has been reported as using a sample consisting of 280 Republicans and 420 Democrats. No wonder Obama leads in a poll like that.

Pollsters have to protect their reputations but they can do that by playing it straight on their last poll before election day, after having created an impression earlier that a landslide for the Democratic candidate was all but a done deal.

The general media bias is more blatant than usual this year.

There was more media outcry about Sarah Palin's response to "gotcha" questions than to Joe Biden's talking about President Franklin D. Roosevelt going on television in 1929 after the stock market crash-- at a time when FDR was not yet president and there was no television to go on.

An editor at Time magazine has admitted that there has been bias but expressed a desire in the future to be more fair to both sides. Just the fact that he expresses the issue this way shows that he still doesn't understand the real problem.

The point is not to be "fair" to "both sides." The point is to be straight with the readers, who are buying the magazine to learn something about the facts of the real world, not to learn about its reporters' ideology and spin.

There is another factor at work in this year's election that makes polls and predictions more unreliable than usual. That factor is race.

Barack Obama's string of victories in early Democratic primaries against far better known white candidates shows that large segments of the American population have moved beyond race.

It is Barack Obama and his supporters who have hyped race, after his large lead in the polls began to shrink or evaporate, as more of the facts about his checkered career came out.

Almost any criticism of Obama has been equated with racism, even if there is no connection that can be seen under a microscope.

Barack Obama himself started this trend when he warned that his opponents were going to try to scare the public with various charges, including a statement, "And did I say he was black?"

McCain said no such thing. Palin said no such thing. But those who support Obama-- and this includes much of the media-- are acting as if they just know that this is the underlying message.

Congressman John Lewis has likened Senator McCain to George Wallace. Congressman John Murtha has condemned a whole section of the state of Pennsylvania as "racists" because they seem reluctant to jump on the Obama bandwagon.

Senator Harry Reid has claimed that linking Obama to deposed and disgraced Fannie Mae CEO Franklin Raines is racist, since they are both black-- as if the financial and political connection between the two does not exist.

Much is being made of the fact that, in past elections, some white voters who told pollsters that they are going to vote for a black candidate did not in fact do so, so that a black candidate with a lead in the polls ended up losing on election day.

This is supposed to show how much covert racism there is. It might instead show that people don't want to be considered racists by pollsters because they are leaning toward someone other than the black candidate.

In other words, the media themselves helped create the charged atmosphere in which some people give misleading answers to pollsters to avoid being stigmatized.

All in all, going into the voting booth this year is not an exercise in futility for those who don't want to be bum's rushed into voting for Obama by the media's picture of a done deal. If nothing else, genuine voters can offset some of the thousands of fictitious voters registered by ACORN.

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Obama is a socialist
and the people who vote for him are basically wanna be theives.

Nothing about obamalama ding dong is worthy of being the local dog catcher much less POTUS.

The polls have been manipulate by trolls, the media, ACORN, etc. I don't belive them and neither should any one on either side of the issue.


RAY OF LIGHT FOR MAC SUPPORTERS
REMEMBER NEW HAMPSHIRE AND PENNSYLVANIA DURING THE DEMOCRATIC PRIMARIES...EVERY POLL HAD OBAMA UP AND PREDICTED HIM TO HAVE AN EASY WIN - EVEN BY SEVERAL POINTS, BUT HE LOST TO HILLARY. OBAMA HAS HISTORICALLY SCORED HIGHER IN POLLS THAN THE ACTUAL ELECTION RESULTS. LESSON FOR REPUBLICANS AND McCAIN SUPPORTERS: DON'T LOSE HOPE AND KEEP SPREADING THE McCAIN MESSAGE (THE LIBERAL MEDIA CERTAINLY WON'T DO IT FOR YOU)!!


Polls
I have done some polling in the past, and have been called by pollsters. When they get a little honest, they tell me they are lucky to get 1 good respondent out of over 200 phone calls, and they can only reach listed numbers, unlisted phone #'s, people with only cell phones, they can't even start to call those.

Of the people they do get, most will not answer a phone number they don't know, and when they do, and hear it is a pollster, they immediately hang up. I really think this incredible emphasis on polls should end, because so few people out of the total make themselves available to poll. Even when they do, like myself occasionally, I have fun and lie all the time. I'll say I'm far-left, or centre, or whatever I want to say that day. Polls have become worse than useless.

PALIN VS BO
Compare this with BO's "executive" experience as a Democratic Socialist community agitator er organizer (subject to the approval of Ayers) and as a benchwarmer (aka JUNIOR SENATOR) in Illinois and D.C.:

Question: What is America's first line of missile interceptor defense that protects the entire United States?

Answer: 49th Missile Defense Battalion of Alaska National Guard.

Question: What is the ONLY National Guard unit on permanent active duty?

Answer: 49th Missile Defense Battalion of Alaska National Guard

Question: Who is the Commander in Chief of the 49th Missile Defense Battalion of Alaska National Guard?

Answer: Governor Sarah Palin, Alaska

Question: What U.S. governor is routinely briefed on highly classified military issues, homeland security, and counter terrorism?

Answer: Governor Sarah Palin, Alaska

Question: What U.S. governor has a higher classified security rating than either candidate of the Democrat Party?

Answer: Governor Sarah Palin, Alaska

According to the Washington Post, she first met with McCain in February, but nobody ever found out. This is a woman used to keeping secrets. She can be entrusted with our national security, because she already is.

For a Black Republican view:

http://www.redstate.com/diaries/redstate/2008/aug/30/tale-o f-the-tape-sarah-palin-vs-barack-obam/

Yes, Martha, there are Black Republican Patriots(dubbed "Uncle Toms" and "Aunt Jemimas" by the "Civil Rights" INDUSTRY).

Taft
Factcheck.org is operated by The Annenberg Foundation which dispersed funds for The Chicago Annenberg Challenge controlled by Ayers, where BO was his employee as community "organizer.

Not what one would call an unbiased source.

http://www.factcheck.org/about/

The elephant in the room
The elephant in the room is that: Most of you (on this forum) voted for Bush; but you have failed to acknowledge/examine your disastrous mistake. (Thus far,I have found exactly 1 Republican who voted for Bush and who has fully acknowledged his error).

Until you acknowledge your errors and examine your errors, you know what will happen? Ans: You will repeat your errors! DUHHHHHH

The above comments go especially for "Professor" Sowell. T.S., you have become a whining windbag, rarely on point. Really, how did you screw up in supporting Bush?? *That* would be an interesting column.

Small Potatoes
Thomas Sowell's insights are as usual accurate and brilliant. However, they pale in comparison to the biggest bombshell of this election.

WHY WON'T Obama prove he was born in this country?

Answer... because he can't. He likely was born in Kenya and not qualified to run for president.

Listen to this interview:
http://michaelsavage.wnd.com/?pageId=2256

obamacrimes.com

Why won't BO release his college records?
Maybe because he was registered as a foreign student.

Why is virtually everything in his past a secret?
How did he possibly go to Pakistan on an Indonesian Passport?

Too many things points to BO not being a citizen.

Why is the media missing the biggest story in the world right now?

"Ignore the man behind the curtain."



Marsha, Marsha, Marsha
Wrong. McCain does not attack Obama on his money from Fannie. Sure, the conservative media does, but I'm not sure if you've noticed, but they're far outnumbered.

McCain's record is way way way better than Obama's. It turns out, "90% of Bush" isn't a legitimate criticism to rational people. That doesn't mean anything. Bush did a few (HUGE) things wrong, all of which, besides the Iraq War, McCain voted against. The financial crisis is far from Bush's fault, though he does SHARE the blame. It certainly wasn't his "capitalist" policies, considering he's the most liberal Republican to take office since... ever. I realize all the government economists are telling you that deregulation was the problem, but that's because they just want more regulation. Deregulation of what? Bush didn't deregulate anything. It's hilarious that Obama gets away with saying McCain argues w/ "guilt by association" when that's his entire campaign platform. Financial markets in trouble. Bush in charge. Bush is a conservative. So is McCain. Wow. That's pretty impressive. Rewind a little, say ten years. Could you even imagine calling John McCain a capitalist???? Rewind two years... calling Bush a capitalist??? That's -hilarious-.

Voting third party is not wasting your vote. It's giving in to the corrupt policies of your government that has ensured you cannot vote your values. Politics is the authoritative allocation of values. It's amazing, really. Congress has a 10% approval. Bush has a 25% approval. Both McCain and Obama haven't proposed anything that is real change from the failed policies of both Democrats and Republicans over the past 20+ years. Yet, here we go voting for them. It's disgusting. You always have a choice. "wasting your vote" is a threat levied by the people who want to stay in power. Stop letting them get away with it.

the truth
Thanks to Marsha in Ohio for putting some actual truth to this thread of comments. Thomas Sowell should have retired long ago. His thinking has become increasingly erratic over the course of this campaign. He should take a vacation. Extended. Indefinitely.

Let's not let the MSM choose the POTUS!
Another great column, Mr. Sowell. Thank you.

I, for one, am praying that the Reid/Pelosi/Obama Triumvirate never comes to pass. The combined power of these three would, in my opinion, do deadly, long-term damage to our country.

unlievable comments
I find some of these post to be really unbelievable .

what is the matter with you people? can't you base your vote on what kind of person do we want to run our country. Do we want sociallism or not Do we want big government or not. Which one of these two candidate comes the closest to representing your way of thinking.
who cares what the political pundents say?
who cares if the media leans towards obama?
can we not think for ourselves?? my gahd what is wrong with us as a people. The time has come to think for ourselves.. To say George bush is the cause of big governmen is stupid. Both parties are miles from where they originally started. Vote for a candidate that thinks as close to you as possible. not a party.

Republican /Democrate/liberal/concervative?
who cares? Think people think

You nailed Obama Andy in Az
I have long said that Obama was a Hand Picked Hand Puppet of the extremists in the DNC and beyond. Look at his Campaign Monies. Over 600 million in campaign funds??? Where does this come from? The same place that his roots are: Islamic Terrorist Nations. His Harvard Law Degree was bought by Sauidi Money. His lifestyle has been financed by this same money. This liar and his lying racist wife, Michelle, said they were paying back student loans. She is a liar. They had no loans and there is no record of those loans. Their Loans or Gifts were from Radical Muslims in this country and from the Middle East. Obama is a communist and would lead this country to damnation with the DNC libs in congress and other traitors giving him directions and pulling his strings.


Ditto Cindy in Va and Vote McCain
You nailed it Cindy. We better do all we can to get out the vote. It will tough to beat the Illegal Voter Registrants that will have their illegitimate voice heard too. ACORN and The Obama Campaign with all it's terrorist funding and the MSM who have used so called news programs as free Obama ads while using the same so called News Shows to denigrate and negatively campaign against McCain, Palin, and Joe, the Plumber who represents the majority of Americans. We cannot allow the MSM, Obama and the Terrorists of the world to win this election. Our future as a sovereign nation is at stake. get out the vote for McCain-Palin. We can win in spite of the illegal votes that Obama is getting and will get. Right is Might. Do the Right Thing and Vote for Freedom. Vote McCain-Palin.

Ditto Cindy in VA
You nailed it Cindy. We better do all we can to get out the vote. It will tough to beat the Illegal Voter Registrants that will have their illegitimate voice heard too. ACORN and The Obama Campaign with all it's terrorist funding and the MSM who have used so called news programs as free Obama ads while using the same so called News Shows to denigrate and negatively campaign against McCain, Palin, and Joe, the Plumber who represents the majority of Americans. We cannot allow the MSM, Obama and the Terrorists of the world to win this election. Our future as a sovereign nation is at stake. get out the vote for McCain-Palin. We can win in spite of the illegal votes that Obama is getting and will get. Right is Might. Do the Right Thing and Vote for Freedom. Vote McCain-Palin.

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/
http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/

Looking good, President Obama

Polls and Pols
Mr Sowell

Racism has been the attack dog used to suppress open discussions of Obama's associations...Maybe that's why Colin Powell stepped in to reinforce Obama as a legitimate Candidate...he asked why not a Muslim for President? Islam has an agenda...It's taken hold throughout the world and is growing rapidly here in the United States soon we will not be able to speak out against it. Islam
does not share power, there will no separation of Church and State, there is no agreeing to disagree..and yes this race has been bought...by guess who? Below is a documentary titled Islam:What the West needs to Know
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-87190279777299778 1

CNN, Larry King tonight at 9 Eastern
Michael Moore and plumbers challenge Obama & McCain on their tax issues.

Reapeated at midnight and 3 am.

Biggest Trojan Horse in history
The mysterious Mr.Obama, the charismatic, talkative and eloquent 1-term senator from Illinois who, to his resume of executive experience cannot even boast of having run a hot dog stand, much less a major business- a man who blazed like a meteor out of total obscurity four years ago, but now stands poised to attempt the leadership of the greatest country on planet earth, and leadership of the free world; and all this simply on the basis of the smooth mantra words of "hope" and "change", along with boyish good looks and charisma, is, I would suggest, the biggest political Trojan Horse, or political 'bait and switch' in American history.
If he is allowed by the majority of the American people to enter the Oval Office, the unseen folks who are pulling this callow, malleable political ideologue's strings will wreak unimaginable destruction upon the United States. What you see is not what you're going to get with this guy. He is not a gift; America, if you are wise, don't pull him inside the city gates.

Hope I'm not out of line here
Just like with much else in this world this message has duality.

It could encourage one to do the opposite of what it's intended for.

That would be to vote for McCain, of course.

So, I hope it's okay with Thomas, I post this most urgent message. I don't want to abuse posting privileges.

I'm about to write an explosive open letter to Obama, the Media & hundreds of thousands of our people in cyberspace.

Recipients will be spiritual & secular political & patriot groups via "We The People United" groups & forums.

I'll post it after I compose & send it, if that's okay?

For either side, anyone needing media email addresses, let me know>scared4all@yahoo.com

Here's my message;

Can you say you've done your part in these desperate and drastic times?

How about contributing & investing in your children's future? We can't afford not to, you know?

https://donate.barackobama.com/page/contribute/main

Remember how most of "US" were shocked when pResident Bush got in? We can't be too careful. Please do all in your power to help return power to our people.

Our children will thank you for it!

McCain's not able/No McPain ((((TELL EVERYONE))))

This is "US"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dib2-HBsF08

Dr. Sowell - Right Again!
As usual the brilliant Dr. Sowell gives us an oh so true perspective. If we understand that our vote is oh so important, critical in fact... Senator John McCain will win this election by 1-2 percentage points. The simple question is do we want to be governed as in Cuba or as in the United States of America?
God bless us all.
tbrown - Hot Springs

PS: About Abe, O & JFK connection
If you do decide to go to "We The People United" to see those articles concerning A, O, & JFK, there will be people there who are for McCain.

Many diverse opinions are respected there.

Abraham Lincoln, O & JFK connection

I heard, not only on CNN but on ABC's, "The View" the ladies discussing what Joe Biden said. He guaranteed "US", "The world will be tested when in 6 months O will be tried."

Joe said, "There will be an international crisis generated to test the metal of this guy and that's going to take tough decisions"

We all know Joe for his gaffs & such as the last one when he said "jobs" was a three letter word?

I pray he's full of it on this one.

History shows what Joe said has happened to new presidents as a rule. They even mentioned JFK on the news in association with this fact.

JFK was assassinated & so was Abe. Lord forbid anything happening to O.

Please see reasoning behind belief that O is here to finish what JFK tried to do which is what got him murdered.

It's too long to post here but I think you might find it interesting.

Big hint to what may be.

A was reincarnated as JFK, working off karma, coming back as O to get it right this time!

Third times a charm!

Could be?

See what you think.

Abraham Lincoln, Obama & JFK connection Part 1

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WETHEPEOPLE_UNITED/message/15 2719

Abraham Lincoln, Obama & JFK connection Part 2

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WETHEPEOPLE_UNITED/message/15 2992

This is a busy forum no news get by so I recommend taking no email to scan for topics of choice on the web. Or the digest!

Thanks
Thanks Mr.Sowell for your website and your comments. It's nice to know there are some people out there that are willing to speak their minds. Thanks for everything. Keep up the good work.

Dear Fred, M does attack O
If McCain had been a different person with real substance & decent judgement, I would have voted for him.

I agree with most of what you said, Fred.

Except I have seen M & his camp attack O on the Fannie issue, a lot. Media talks about it, too.

Of course I tape the networks 24/7 not to miss a thing & get past the stories I have seen by fast forwarding. A wonderful invention.

They all have crappy records, Fred.

I just happen to know both records in this matter & M definitely loses.

If you go to fightthesmears.com you'd see most out against O is pure propaganda.

I have to vote O but don't like his policies in some matters.

My friends get mad at me for voting the lesser of two evils but I know voting 3rd party, like they want, would be a wasted vote.

I'm terrified at what a M administration would bring after Bush.

More war based on lies is what no one's talking about. Illegal occupation & needless death of innocents on both sides.

Our poor duped soldiers who believed it was for noble cause. Dying in perpetual war to sustain the greedy, rich & evil running the show & controlling "US"

I really believe the trickle down effect won't work this time & we need to save middle class & fast.

I can only hope when O gets in he changes those policies to line up to more of what "We The People" need & want.

Polls
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/maps/obama_vs_mccai n/?map=5

Given the above poll, you may see why Obama thinks this one's already won. Sure, popular vote wise, Obama is only leading by 3-14 points, depending on who you ask... but electoral college wise... Obama is kicking *** and taking names. Even if the margin of error was 10%, McCain would have to pull off a miracle to win this election.

Of course, there is always the chance of a late swing, where McCain finally addresses the things about Obama Dr. Sowell has addressed over the last month, but McCain's campaign is clearly run by monkey's, so we can't expect such a swing.

It's pretty hilarious that amidst a financial crisis, the Republican party nominates the least qualified candidate in the primary to deal with such a crisis. Can anyone imagine if Mitt Romney had been nominated? It'd be a Reagan-eske sweep.

The facts are on McCain's side, and yet he continually argues using stolen rhetoric. The Ayer's and Wright association are not decent attack points. The Raine's association was, but due to calls of racism, is no longer. Even then, though, there are a thousand more ways McCain can attack Obama. His record, to start. It astounds me that Obama attacks McCain for having an advisor that worked for Fannie up through 2005, but McCain has not once leveled a counter-attack of "well, you were paid $130 million by Fannie." Obviously, it doesn't stop there, but McCain is going to lose big time unless he drops his change rhetoric and seriously attacks Obama's record v. rhetoric and touts his own as, somewhat inconsistent, but still based on principles.

Expect This If Obama Wins
"Obama Earmarks for Family, Donors." is only a start

Judicial Watch has more:

http://www.judicialwatch.org/weeklyupdate/2008/41-obama-ear marks-family-donors#anchor1

It is apparent that few are listening, and if they do not wake up from their narcissistic dream it will turn into a nightmare.

Time To Take The Gloves Off.....
Throw down the gauntlet, McCain!! If you're going to lose anyway,lose big. Let everyone know just who they are voting for. Let's give them something to talk about!!

Pull out Jeremiah Wright. Run his 'sermons ' over and over. Then the interview with Ayers in 2002. Throw everything but the kitchen sink and if that doesn't work....throw the sink!!

There are so many criminal elements in his resume. Advertise them all. You won't have to tell one lie. The truth is ugly enough.

Leave no stone unturned. The MSM will crucify you for it. They are doing it anyway. Give them a reason.

Frustration
There are many like me who have stopped subscribing to Newsweek and the NYT, who look at so-called "breaking news" polls that show Obama "ahead." We are the new silent majority in this presidential election. We have stopped explaining why we believe that polls are part of the Obama Propaganda Machinery. I will be delighted if my prediction will come true: that McCain will win by a hair, and that the results will be contentious and determined after days of dispute and counting. I know. I lived through the Bradley-Deukmajian race, and all the subsequent "surprise" races of our time.

Polls and pols
Why do Pelosi, Reid, etc. support income redistribution tax methods with their amount of income. Do they not pay taxes as we do?

Sorry if a repeat: Part 1 AmericanWoman
She says:

McCain is doing really well considering
how the corrupt media has refused to report or investigate truths about Obama and how twisted Obama's campaign has been. He deserves a lot of credit:

She says O runs a twisted campaign?

This has to be a joke!

With all the smears, lies & dirt McPain throws?

It's M's many associations that aren't being reported by media.

Yet!

All these Congress people have these type associations.

Just distraction from issues & a nasty tool unethical losers use.

It's strange the way some get everything so backwards.

That's sad but understandable because M doesn't seem to get it, either.

At least I hope he doesn't "get it"

Otherwise, I'd have to think he's purposely against the well being of our nation as a whole.

Smearing O & dwelling on his associations run rampant in media, in repetition. Every single network, in fact, so I don't know how anyone could believe what AW is saying.

Maybe she doesn't pay attention & buys the lying smears too easily because others feed her this propaganda?

I hope the few of you good people left undecided, look close & keep your loved ones best interests in mind & at heart, when you do.

If you make less than a quarter million you need pay close attention for your own good.

Do you even know what he stands for really? Please google his site and search matters & issues out for yourselves.

The stuff AW calls truth about O is actually propaganda. All anyone has to do to verify truth behind these lies is go to fightthesmears.com.

You need watch all networks & let true fact sink in for the whole picture.

We all do!

AmericanWoman says what? Part 2
If you're one buying the BS on the word of others & not searching issues & matters out for yourself, you're making a big mistake.

McCain's doing well all right, especially considering all the lies they support & get caught in.

They're running the dirty campaign, not O.

The dirtiest in our history with more at stake than ever before, too.

Media isn't to blame!

It's McCain, who & what's behind him & what they really stand for that's to blame!

Now that's the truth!

So help me "God"

"God" Help "US" all!

MCain is not "able" No/McPain

See how Wanda Sykes the comedian sees it>>>

http://tinyurl.com/3vkemf

Vote Your Conscience
I agree w/Mr. Sowell that polls are a poor indicator of how people will actually vote. However, I think a person's views on race will accurately reflect how they receive a given candidate. Take for example Mr. Sowell, if he was running, I'd vote for him no problem, because I know him and can vouch for him to my friends and loved ones. But if he was just some other Black person who popped up and started running, I would at first think "no way" just because I can honestly say I generally don't trust Blacks. I'd tell that to a pollster, but most wouldn't. Anyway, I'm not racist because I'd vote for a worthy Black, but I'd be cautious until I knew more about them. That's just natural. You know this. - K

No one has polled me or anyone I know...
I must live in a very conservative area because no pollster has called me or anyone I know. I keep asking everyone if they have participated in any of these national or statewide polls - nothing. Not one person I know. I hope because of the insane biased in the media that the polls are also more slanted than normal in this election. Really, I think the government has gotten quite big enough. Anyhow, Mr. Sowell, you do give me some hope. Even if it is just a small hope. I will vote on Nov 4th. I hope all truly eligible voters will vote and vote just once.

Thomas Sowell for President
Thomas Sowell, if you will run for president,
you have my vote!! :)

T: How about McCain's connection to Acor
Roseanne Barr is rich & one of many who understand what's up.

Go to roseanne'sworld.com.

See her blog, including the archives.

She says she's crazy & may well be but one thing for sure she's more of a patriot than M's followers!

She's an Acorn member & tells it like it is at her blog along with a whole bunch of other truth.

Oh by the way, did you people know about McCain's association with Acorn? Google it!

I wish O would throw the crap back at M but it's not his style!

He's the best man & he will win!

McCain is not "able" (No McPain)

T.C. McCain Transition Chief Aided Sadda
The list you poted of who benefits when O gets in is mean & false.

Actually, no one will win if McPain gets in, not even the greedy rich & especially those duped by them.

Thank God there's many rich that see the light willing to go back to what they should be paying in taxes to take the burden off middle class backs.

If they break those backs the rich lose, too.

If you're one able to see the full scope of the picture you know our middle class is becoming extinct.

The rich pretend they're creating jobs and fact is, if one can't pay a livable wage, they shouldn't be in business.

The little guy will benefit in small business under O so don't let Joe The Plumber & his kind trick you.

M will freeze minimum wage & people can't make it now.

You know all that!

By the way, have you seen the list of shady characters of McCain's?

Much longer than the one M & his side smears O with.

They all have these associations in Congress & it's not fair M avoids issues to smear O as he does.

It's shameful & will backfire!

O is too good a man to rub M's nose in the facts of his own associations.

The latest being:

"McCain Transition Chief Aided Saddam In Lobbying Effort"

Google it & see!

I'm going to get that whole list & show everyone.

They're all connected to bad guys. All of them.

Shows McPain's character to dwell on this when M's even worse than O.

What about redemption for both sides?

Forgiveness?

And then how about the best man win & we save this country?

Some of you are actually ridiculous.

Thank our good God when good people hear truth, they recognize it.

Gofer: Labels only serve to divide "US"
It's not nice to call people lefties, radicals & such.

Labels only serve to divide "US"

Right & wrong is all that counts!

Our views can span a wide scope on many levels leaning left or right depending on issues.

We are all Americans who should be worried for security of our nation & well being of not only our loved ones but all people in general.

Both sides have bad people embedded.

The following are terrorists but I'm sure our side has them, too.

See:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itEucdhf4Us

The thing is, O's side is the only one that includes "US" all as a whole & can possibly correct the economy before it's too late.

We who support O, are able to see the big picture.

We won't be duped as good people on M's side are being fooled.

Many of "US" are seriously worried for this planet & all the little ones on it.

Please stop buying into the "socialism" con.

Please wake up & help "US" all, while you can!

This is "US"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dib2-HBsF08

Ronny, please stop!
I am extremely conservative and Senator McCain was not my top choice. However, don't be cut off your nose to spit your face! Jesus! Be at least a little pragmatic. You could not possibly have had a nightmare which compares to how damaging an Obama Presidency would be to our Country! For know act as if McCain & Palin walk on water.Ignorant conservative pundits who besmirch either one of them, are jerk-offs without common sense. President Reagan had a quote which was something like,"I'd rather get 70% of what I want, then sail of the cliff, with my flag flying." Obama is as bad as it gets, we must do everything possible to stop him

Why can't Mr. Sowell run for POTUS???
You are one of the few, truly sensible political writers anywhere, I don't know of even one article you have written that I haven't agreed with. You should run for Pres, with Michele Malkin or Hugh Hewitt as VP. You have plenty of executive experience with running that large of a Church and I'm sure we can raise tons of money for you. Especially if Obama wins this one, America will be dying for a real conservative in 4 years. I'd be willing to bet you'd be an awesome debator just as Dennis Prager is.

McCain
McCain is so liberal he doesn't give REAL conservatives a choice? He supports SOCIALIZING the banking system and handing BARRELS of cash to Wall Street. No wonder the REPUBLICAN BASE will stay home on election day. Early voting says they already are. If a TRUE REPUBLICAN like Bob Barr was allowed in the party tent, real REAGAN CONSERVATIVES and DEMOCRATS would have a place to go.

William from NJ
What an Idiot you are, you cant find a liberal site to post your rants and hate on. While i do agree that McCain may not be the perfect candidate for the Republican party, he is too concerned with reaching across the isle for me, i dont want to work with democrats, i want to kick their butts. Hes not a conservative but hes so much better than the communist on the other side he gets my vote

To Mike #7
Amen!

God Bless America! Deliver us from Obama!

McCain is doing really well considering
how the corrupt media has refused to report or investigate truths about Obama and how twisted Obama's campaign has been. He deserves a lot of credit.

To Corbett re: Ron Paul
Ron Paul came in a miserable fourth and he stayed in the race the whole time.

Reality check.

The liberal media is
making Obama's job so much easier with its biased reporting. It definitely makes it more difficult for uninformed voters to make an educated decision when the media is spreading the leftist illuminati lies that Obama is spouting.

The polls are "weighted"
they are not based on an accurate count of the vote. Rasmussen has an explanation on his website.

"All Rasmussen Reports' survey questions are digitally recorded and fed to a calling program that determines question order, branching options, and other factors. Calls are placed to randomly-selected phone numbers through a process that insures appropriate geographic representation. Typically, calls are placed from 5 pm to 9 pm local time during the week. Saturday calls are made from 11 am to 6 pm local time and Sunday calls from 1 pm to 9 pm local time. After the calls are completed, the raw data is processed through a weighting program to insure that the sample reflects the overall population in terms of age, race, gender, political party, and other factors."

-and-

"Rasmussen Reports determines its partisan weighting targets through a dynamic weighting system that takes into account the state’s voting history, national trends, and recent polling in a particular state or geographic area."

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/about_us/met hodology

The Problem With Thee McCain Campaign
People are asking, "What's wrong the the McCain campaign? Why isn't he out there campaigning hard & trying to win?"

I'll tell you what's wrong with John McCain's campaign -- it's John McCain.

You see, nobody, not Dr. Sowell, not Coulter, not Dr. Williams, NOBODY can think of a single reason anyone in his right mind would cast a ballot FOR John McCain -- and that includes John McCain himself.

Go read Sowell's archives. You'll find lots of stuff about not voting for Obama. But you won't find a single word about why anyone would support McCain. (In fact, if you look back about a year or so ago, you'll find Sowell saying that if McCain & Hillary were the nominees, he'd leave the country.)

We TOLD you that you didn't want to nominate McCain, but you decided that support for the war was all that mattered. I'll bet you sure wish that Ron Paul was your nominee now...

It's NOT his Race
I regret that the media has lost its objectivity and what should be a search for facts, Instead playing into the socialist ideology of the liberals in this country. My issue with Obama is that he’s a socialist and he’s power hungry. His lack of truthfulness about his relationships with Ayers & Reverend Wright show his deceit.

It further dismays me that so many Americans seem to have their hand out; looking for the government to do for them what they should do for themselves. The Democratic Party has used our own money to turn a significant percentage of the US electorate into “Junkies” looking for their next government “fix.”

What happened to the party of JFK? What happened to the exhortation “Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country!” If JFK were alive today, he’d be a Conservative, who’d take his little brother Teddy out back and pop him in the nose.

If Obama is elected President, I will fly my American flag upside down until he is gone. I can only hope that enough sensible people will remember what made this country great; the fierce individual spirit of being responsible for your own future. Not blaming others for their troubles but taking the initiative to succeed.

God Help Us!!

POLLS AND POLS
What i find troubling is not that the polls all show hussein obama ahead but that anybody would be gullible enough to worship, mindlessly, a communist that wants to take everything that his worshipers have and give it to those who do nothing to disearve it. I just had a blank eyed worshiper knock on my door and ask to put a sign on my lawn when i refused and asked her why she followed hussein obama she just gave me a blank stare and started shouting that i was a raceist and was misinformed ,i had to ask her to leave before she started foaming at the mouth this is the kind of person that he has working for him

Obama is expanding his lead.....
From Real Clear Politics for Tuesday, 10/21/08.


NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl (10/17 - 10/20) Obama: 52%, McCain: 42% - Obama +10

Rasmussen Reports (10/18 - 10/20) Obama: 50%, McCain: 46% - Obama +4

Reuters/C-SPAN/Zogby (10/18 - 10/20) Obama: 50%, McCain: 42% - Obama +8

Hotline/FD (10/18 - 10/20) Obama: 47%, McCain: 41% - Obama +6

Gallup (Traditional)* (10/18 - 10/20) Obama: 51%, McCain: 44% - Obama +7

Gallup (Expanded)* (10/18 - 10/20) Obama: 52%, McCain: 42% - Obama +10

ABC News/Wash Post (10/17 - 10/20) Obama: 53%, McCain: 44% - Obama +9

CNN/Opinion Research (10/17 - 10/19) Obama: 51%, McCain: 46% - Obama +5

Ipsos/McClatchy (10/16 - 10/20) Obama: 50%, McCain: 42% - Obama +8

IBD/TIPP (10/16 - 10/20) Obama: 47%, McCain: 41% - Obama +6

Pew Research (10/16 - 10/19) Obama: 53%, McCain: 39% - Obama +14

GWU/Battleground (10/14 - 10/20) Obama: 48%, McCain: 47% - Obama +1


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Current Electoral College Map:


Obama/Biden: 286

McCain/Palin: 160

Toss-up: 92


(270 needed to win the presidency)

Polls and Pols
Obama's a democrat. That's enough for me to not vote for him. A tax and spend liberal democrat; not a bluedog democrat; a liberal democrat much in the mould of Carter. Hold onto your wallets because we have two choices - let the government print more fiat money and lose our purchasing power through inflation, or give the government more money and lose our purchasing power through higher taxes. Me, personally, I would rather keep my own money and force them to quit spending and wasting what I do send to them. Once you give it to them, there's NO HOPE that it's treated with reverence and the respect they should give it. HOPE AND CHANGE - what a joke. The only CHANGE we're going to get is a non-copper penny that falls flat now when dropped. Get real people! There haven't been any new ideas out of the Democratic party since its founding. It has always been tax, tax, tax.

Black Republicans
Notice the hatred spewing against Dr. Sowell. It's hard for people to accept a successful black conservative. They left the plantation and that isn't right in their eyes. I have heard blacks say black republicans are a traitor to their race. You won't find a black republican who is not successful in whatever he does and you won't find one sitting on his rear bitching about how oppressed he is and he's just a victim. That's the part they hate the most. Democrats rely on people being miserable and dependent, always waiting on promises never kept. Just how's that working?

It's fascinating watching the lefties follow the Alinsky Rules for Radicals. It's a real education to see it in action.

John McCain's Race
When everything is said and done, when all the charges of racism and fraud and Ayers and Wright and Marxism and Muslim and inexperienced are levelled for the last time it will come down to McCain. Everyone said it was Obama's race to lose, but why is that? It is due to the fact that McCain was this year's Bob Dole. He is a "moderate" Senator with no fire in the belly to do what has to be done to defeat a candidate who should be far inferior. The trouble is that like Dole, McCain was too nice. He didn't want to put the dagger in the man's heart, with a Rev. Wright comment in the last debate, he didn't want to put forth a 'mean' campaign (mean would be a personal attack that the media deemed unscrupulous.) The thing that gets me with both Dole and McCain is that you only get one shot at the big prize. Why not take it, and let the media be damned.

Popularity Contests??
When you are in a position of power, such as President Bush, you do not have time to worry about popularity contests. You have a much bigger responsibility than that, like National Defense, for example.

It is easy to be popular with the people, just promise to give them something for nothing whithout having to contribute anything. This is what LBJ found out and other Liberal Democrats ever since, including this present day Obama.

We have been a nation of ingrates who want Instant Gratification and a nation that pays too much attention to the National Enquirer type reporting from the MSM.

We have allowed the public education system to lower the standards to the low point they are at now, and the results of over 40 years of Socialized Education explains the sad state of affairs we are in now.

We have 40 percent of the population living on welfare, and of course, this voting bloc always votes for the party that promies even more for doing nothing, which is what Obama is capitalizing on now. This is called Socialism.

We have had too much Socialism already. Has nobody recognized the fact that, as a nation, we are Broke. Has nobody noticed that as individuals, we have a net negative savings rate?

You can thank Big Government and Big Taxes for this, and Obama promises even more Big Government and Government Spending by Printing More Money that we have nothing to back it up with. Our deficit spending has caught up with us.

It is time for a Lean and Mean government that only Pays for Legitimate Government Business: Infrastructure, National Defense, Courts, Justice System, and a Safe Food and Drug Supply. Nothing More and Nothing Less.

It is time for a Representative Government. If the current parties will not do this, it is time for the American People to take a stand and take this country back from our socialist leaders. We did not choose to be a socialist nation.

Impoverish Everyone Obama


"You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich." (Obama advocates doing just this.)

"You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong." (Obama advocates destroying the strong.)
"You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift." (The Fannie and Freddie fiasco discouraged thrift, and Obama was a fan of Fannie and Freddie as well as received money from them.)

"You cannot lift the wage earner up by pulling the wage payer down." (Obama wants to tax the Wage Payer into oblivion.)

"You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred." (Obama incites Class Hatred which is a Marxist Tactic.)

"You cannot build character and courage by taking away
people's initiative and independence." (Obama endorses even more welfare programs which do exactly this.)

"You cannot help people permanently by doing for them, what they could and should do for themselves." (The Entitlment Mentality was born of this and Obama endorses more of the same.)

Abraham Lincoln

Obama Would Impoverish All


"You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich." (Obama advocates doing just this.)

"You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong." (Obama advocates destroying the strong.)
"You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift." (The Fannie and Freddie fiasco discouraged thrift, and Obama was a fan of Fannie and Freddie as well as received money from them.)

"You cannot lift the wage earner up by pulling the wage payer down." (Obama wants to tax the Wage Payer into oblivion.)

"You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred." (Obama incites Class Hatred which is a Marxist Tactic.)

"You cannot build character and courage by taking away
people's initiative and independence." (Obama endorses even more welfare programs which do exactly this.)

"You cannot help people permanently by doing for them, what they could and should do for themselves." (The Entitlment Mentality was born of this and Obama endorses more of the same.)

Abraham Lincoln

Obama--Give Your $ to the Needy
Of course Barack's character is in question. You cannot even get access to any of his background. There is a shroud of secrecy over this man's background. You have the MSM and the DNC out there trying to investigate and destroy Palin and even Joe, the Plumber, but they refuse to even take a peak at Obama's past.

Why are they not concerned with his writings where he espouses Communism and condemns the United States, it's customs, values, traditions, etc. Why are they not concerned that he associates with criminals such as Rezko? Why are they not concerned with his assoications with Bill Ayers? Why are they not concerned with his relationship with that racist, Jeremiah Wright? Why are they not concerned with his kickbacks from Frank Raines who engineered the destruction of Fannie Mae and passed on the bill to us taxpayers? Why are they not concerned with Obama's pork that went to the hospital where his wife Michelle works and then she immediately got a pay raise that raised her annual salary from over one hundred thousand dollars a year to over 350 thousand dollars a year? Did her performance as a high priced secretary improve that dramatically? Why is the media not concerned with the fact that on Wednesday night this week, Mr. and Mrs. BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA, spent 4,440 dollars on dinner at the Waldorf Hysteria in NY on their private dinner in their suite that cost God knows how much, and the over 4 thousand dollar dinner consited of Iranian Caviar and the finest of French Champagne. And, ironically, this so called charity event was to raise money for the poor??? What a joke these Obama's are. They are nothing more than Limo Liberals who speak of helping the poor as a political tactic to get the poor to vote for them. With over four thousand dollars, the Obama's could have actually bought a few hungry people a Big Mac or two.

Obama's own brother who lives in a hut someplace in Africa lives on about 12 dollars a year.

Obama = ACORN = Criminals
Obama's entire past is wrought with fraud, deceit and criminality. This man, who has never held a real job, now likens himself to be worthy to lead a nation. This man could not lead a group of panhandlers, much less the United States.

Let's send this hustler back to the streets of Chicago where he learned his Gutter Politics. He is real popular there. Vote Nobama on November 4th and then let us get a petition drive to have him impeached from the Senate for posing as a Senator for 143 days before he started Posing as POTUS.

Corbett says:
But I think the worm is turning. I think that Obama's general smarminess is going to cost him the election. I don't think it will sit well with lots of people that he is already planning his victory party & naming his cabinet. Besides, that's hubris & hubris generally gets punished.


I have been shocked by this man's arrogance meeting with his transition team, planning a huge party etc. I am hoping he loses so he can learn some humility. He seems to think it is all about him and not the country. I think the problem is the media has hyped him so much he's started to believe the hype. He reminds me of Hollywood celebrities not a potential President.

OTHERS WHO WIN IF OBAMA WINS:

Anarchists.

The Berkley City Council.

The Mayor Of San Franciso.

Al Sharpton.

The Leftists Who Run Our Public Education System.

The Leftists Who Are Rampant Throughout Academia.

Vile Left-Wingers Like William Who Hate America With All Their Heart And Soul.

The List Continues.












Eleanor #112 .. response to Misinformed
Indeed there is a huge difference between Voter Registration fraud and Voting/Voter fraud. The problem is once Mickey Mouse is registered and the Democrats have their way of not identifying themselves at the polls, absolutely Mickey Mouse can vote and most certainly will. So as most any cheater would look at this, might as well try to make that registration and see what happens. I think this type of issue that we are now seeing with ACORN is precisely why we should not allow 3rd parties to register anyone. If you can't get off your tush and go register you can't vote.

The constitution does not explicitly gaurantee the right to vote (not as it guarantees the right to free speech). It does state you cannot deny a citizen the right to vote based on race or gender. The states can deny voting rights based on almost anything not explicitly called out in the constitution (that would of course be race or gender). For example, some states do not allow the mentally impaired to vote. Now of course to deny some the right to vote based on ideology would of course be a challange in court that the withholder would never win. But if the challange were with respect to fraudulent registration, that might be a different story.

McCain on the Media's love affair with O
"I understand that keith Olbermann is having a custom 'Mission accomplished' banner made, and they're going to hang it in whatever padded room is reserved for him. If Keith wants some decorating ideas for that banner, tell him to call me. I'll tell him exactly where to put it."

"It's going to be a Long Long night at MSNBC if I can pull this off."

"Even in this room filled with elite rich democrats, I can't help feeling that some folks are pulling for me. (crowd cheers) Nice to see you tonight Hillary."


John McCain at the Alfred E. Smith dinner.


Pretty much sums it up for me. :o)

I included the hillary joke just because it's so darn funny. :o)


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Polls and Change?
Karol AZ #222:
Congratulations on your achievement! I do agree with you with what is happening in our country. It's outrageous and sickening. It seems that people just don't care to respect or have morals and have no character anymore.
The media had sold their soul to the devil and is just interested in ratings, no matter if it will destroy this Great country and its citizens, by NOT reporting truth anymore. As a New Yorker, I remember that voting was very personal and no one knew who you were voting for. Now people smears anyone, to the point of making your personal life available every where to those that do agree with their views in order to win accomplishing their goal.
People had become insensitive to the feelings of their fellow men. God Help us and have mercy, before is too late.



Abu
About freddy

"Freddie Mac secretly paid Republican consulting firm DCI $2 million in a bid to kill legislation three years ago that would have regulated and trimmed Freddie and Fannie Mae. DCI’s chief executive is Doug Goodyear, “whom John McCain’s campaign hired to manage the GOP convention in September.”

GOT TO SAY IT ONE MORE TIME
The issue is not liberal bias but journalistic vanity. Long ago they decided the Nov. 5 headline had to read: "AMERICA ELECTS FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT!"

This story gives these sad lonely mortals the illusion of having participated in an historically significant event. Attacking their liberalism won't work. Attacking their vanity might.

And we need to keep following the money: the Fannie Mae money and the Chicago Annenberg money and the Woods foundation money. Also the campaign contributions.

But mostly we have to think about a better banner than "AMERICA ELECTS FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT" and that's the challenge.

But maybe I'm too pessimistic. Maybe America really HAS moved beyond race and will prove it by DEFEATING Barack Obama, a man of questionable judgement, experience and especially allies and associates. Ayers, Dohrn, Khalidi, Hamas, Ahmedinijad, Chavez, Castro.... what does it mean that such people are cheering for him?

false Messiah
Time will prove I'm right. Barack is a skunk. Mr. Sowell is too much of a gentleman to say it that way but the truth is the truth. I'm too old and have seen too much for mincing words. Barack might end up being a judement on America but I still love this land and pray the folly of part of the people does not bring punishment on the whole. Old fashioned? Yea, that's the way us old fashioned guys are. It's in The Book, read about it.

William "Enough Said"
I happen to agree that the GOP has done a poor job of putting smart African-American candidates out there. The GOP's short-sightedness, or maybe I should call it their antiquated notion that race and gender do not matter, don't seem to be in any hurry to put someone out there that fits a demand for quota. But in so doing, they sometimes shoot themselves in the foot by overlooking some of the incredible talent. I do NOT think JC Watts' comment decries any Conservative principles or ideals. He is simply referring to the political methods of appealing to a voter bloc.

Still like him!

nmi
Good job finding that! McCain is way too old to run the country, and Palin is far to big a liar.

Re Thomas Sowell on "McCain's Age"

On Jan. 24, 2008, Thomas Sowell, using his own experiences as a septuagenarian, devoted an entire Town Hall column to the subject of "McCain's Age."

Sowell attempted to convince his readers that John McCain, then a candidate for the Republican nomination, was simply TOO OLD to become President of the United States in a "killing job."

If John McCain, according to Sowell, at 71 years of age was too old in January 2008 to be President, how can McCain be age-acceptable to Sowell NINE MONTHS LATER, now that he is SEVENTY-TWO?

ACORN
A remarkable amount of lies are being told about ACORN and it is becoming he great excuse for the republican loss. Time to grow up and face the music. The republicans lost because of the bad economy and Palin. McCain helped too but nothing as huge as the other two.

For those interested in reality factcheck.org has been doing a bang up job sorting things out.

My List
African-Americans for whom I would've voted over McCain in a heartbeat:

- JC Watts
- Dr. Sowell
- Clarence Thomas
- Michael Steele (I still can't believe my boneheaded state actually elected him...it was a brief shining moment!)
- Condi Rice (pre-State days)
- Bill Cosby (that's iffy, but he'simpressed me more and more, lately--plus you've got to have a sense of humor in the oval office!)
- Heck, even Juan Williams is a pretty decent guy (although a McCain/Williams contest would be a toss up).

All that said, I will vote for McCain because the alternative makes me fear for my two young children's future--and should make any Mother cringe.

Appreciation for posters
Don't post here often but am an avid fan of Dr. Sowell. Of course, reading his columns would lose its lustre if it weren't for the commentaries afterwards. Just wanted to pass on a HUGE thank you to Charles Martel (love the screen name, BTW). I do not think there is a single one of your posts that has not reflected your intelligence, thoroughness, sense of humor, and--the bane of liberals--logic. You and the esteemed Dr. Sowell would make a formidable duo!

And not to give short shrift to all of the rest of you that give me hope that my family isn't the only one that believes in the greatness of this country:
- Retired Geek
- Loyal Democrat (great satire)
- Anne
- Curtal Friar
- Old Social Worker
etc. etc. etc.


Deborah

Hope you're right. I'd love to see one more shock (a McCain victory) in this election.

However, if the polls are correct (I believe they're wrong, BTW) the winners in addition to Obama include:

George Soros

The Daily Kos

Moveon.org

Media Matters

MSNBC, NBC, CNN And CBS.

The Hollywood Left.

The Liberals Of Townhall.

Terrorists Around The World.

Radical Leftist Bill Ayers.

Louis Farrakhan.

Socialists Everywhere.

Criminals.

That's your short list.

May God Help Us!








Who is a hypocrite
WHO IS A HYPOCRITE

When Senator Barack Obama is campaigning that voting for Senator John McCain is voting for a third term of Mr. President G. W. Bush. I prayed that Senator John McCain should also campaign vigorously that it is very relevant that voting for Senator Barack Obama is voting for the virtues of Rev Jeremiah Wright and William Ayers. While Senator Barack Obama spent most part of his adult life with Jeremiah Wright, his influence is immeasurable; Senator John McCain challenged Mr. President twice in presidential primary. Senator John McCain should make people see Jeremiah Wright and William Ayers whenever they think of Senator Barack Obama.



May you also ask if any of the candidates will support abolition of witchcraft doctors as Abraham Lincoln saw the evils of slavery and abolished the slavery.

Lord Paradise

Thanks




JOHN NY

.....I hear Schumer is swishy ...I'll bet he'd like a little back door action from a devoted kool-aid drinker ...give him a call ...no need to thank me ...happy trails .....COLOSSUS

Carlos...here's a short list..
Colin Powell
Condeleeza Rice
Clarence Thomas
Thomas Sewell
Larry Elder
Star Parker
Armstrong Williams
Larry Steele
J.C. Watts
Alan Keyes
Project 21

Left tAngle
Black Repub/Con=Lucrative Hustle

Again with the reverse racism?
You been hanging out and drinking with HaL Doofass? Guess I will have to amend my sign off.

LMFAO hic! (not used with blubberbutt the seatbuffers (OR Left tAngle’s), permission, because I will NEVER ask for it!)

McCain/Palin 08!
Palin/Jindal in 2012!

Biden shoots Obambi in the foot.
What The Dem VP pick has to say about Obambi:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R20pQK5KO2E

http://www.immigrationshumancost.org/text/crimevictims.htm l
Free Ramos and Compean

Left Angle...

What is your psychology?

Stand in a crowd of people who don't agree with you and make a complete fool of yourself?

I see problem with someone who idles away hours of his time among company he 'believes' to be ignorant. Don't you?

It's a Personality Disorder, eh?

Hanging around people one considers 'beneath him' for the sole purpose of 'trying' to look intelligent. (sounds like Obama)

Compare to a wife-beater... A weak man beats his wife to prove he is not weak.

*Your personality disorder won't allow you to see this analogy, will it?

Fairness
You talk about Media outlets being unfair, but this is a media outlet, and I have never seen an article posted here that stated anything positive about Obama. Or for that matter anything negative about MCcain. I realize this is a conservative institution, but is McCain real the type of conservative this country needs right now. Is he really the best suited to run the country, I can think of many other conservatives more suited. But unfortunately we are stuck with the two nominees we have and Obama is clearly the better man

And the winner is...
Anyone besides me remember a famous picture of Truman holding up a newspaper with the headline "Dewy Wins"? It ain't over till it's over. Vote your how you want, but for goodness sake don't waste your vote by not voting! Polls can be wrong, the media can lie, and the American people can make their voices heard. Voting is more than a right as an American it is a blessed responsibility.

polls
Polls work best on issues where emotions are taken into consideration.
In a presidential election, polls are mathematically inferior because of the emotions of the people being polled, this has been shown to be the case over and over.
So I wouldn't put all my confidence in a poll, no matter who does the polling.

Hey Proudtobe
Has McCain earned your vote?
From your posts, you are making my point for me!
It sounds like you are voting against, instead of for...
Please tell me where--and if--- McCain has earned your vote!

Apollo
No offense...from what I can read it sounds like you are rooting for the correct side, however...please stop spouting this numerology or whatever it is. It just makes me cringe because you can only look at events AFTER they happen. It reminds me of this book that someone wrote about how you could pick certain letters out of the bible in a certain order in a certain translation and find out that the Bible predicted the death of Princess Di. I didn't believe it then, and I'm even more sceptical of it now. You can not look at the times of previous events to predict the future, however, if you would ANALYZE the event it's self and how it affects the future I could agree or disagree with your conclusion. But the date of Laura Bush's speech has absolutly NOTHING to do with who (hopefully McCain/Palin) gets elected in Nov.

Polls are back to ISSUES


RCP (poll of polls)Average(10/14 - 10/20) Obama +6.9

Rasmussen Reports(10/18 - 10/20) Obama +4
Reuters/C-SPAN/Zogby(10/18 - 10/20) Obama +8
Hotline/FD(10/18 - 10/20) Obama +6
Gallup (Traditional)10/18 - 10/20) Obama +7
Gallup (Expanded)(10/18 - 10/20) Obama +10
CNN/Opinion Research(10/17 - 10/19 )Obama +5
Pew Research(10/16 - 10/19) Obama +14
ABC News/Wash Post(10/16 - 10/19) Obama +9

I can Appreciate Blacks voting for Obama

Just because he is Black. Even though I think it's a very ignorant choice, it's a free Country.

Personally, I would not vote for my own Mother if she were running as a Liberal Democrat.

Liberals may have a problem with that statement :)




BS polls, Liarsiah, race card ll
That is why he needs the acorn jerks to steal the election because most Americans have woken up the reality that he is just another dirty politician who will do anything he can get away with to win..including disrespecting those who have genuinely suffered the prejudice of racism for his own gain, oba has escalated the culture to the hatefulness of falsely accusing ones neighbor, as an excuse to get what they want, to new record heights !!..despicable !! the candidate of HATE !

BSpolls, Liarsiah and the race card
As for the bspolls, "Figures don't lie but liars (and manipulators) make figures."
There are many black conservatives who have lost, but noone ever accused the left of racism, specially the media freaks..how convenient ! obaliarsiah "promised" a campaign of "hope," Like all lying lawyers, specially him and his handlers, the "hope" was to win the power. The hope the public bought into was hope of bringing people together and pass racial politics but first we got a glance of his "pastor," and the "church" of hate hiding behind it's manipulated version of "christianity." In a matter of days obaliar threw his grandmother under the bus (Politics aside, I wish his Grandmother well, Grandmothers are precious gifts from God and when they suffer we all suffer !) then the show continued, the set up so that he could separate from the psycho "pastor," in the eyes of US and the media could ignore the 20 plus years, conveniently, BRILLIANT STRATEGY ! How dare we ask about psycho "pastor," oba disowned him ! They played the race card on Clinton, Ferraro and right away he played the race card on all against him. Playing the race card is the most disrespectful thing to do to all those who genuinely have felt the pain of racism and with obaliar and his handler's doing it, it has spread all over US and it is despicably being used to bully and abuse children in schools all over the US and we have obaliar to thank for this ! the candidate of hope...oh, that's right, hope that he wins !!! My mistake !

McCain
isn't asking to be president-
Obama is begging for the opportuniy, in comparison!
It has to be earned!
McCain seems to be playing not to lose--
which surely produces a loser.
The media cannot be blamed until McCAin produces a strategy that forces the issue of fairness. John, you have NOT produced a contrast...the media won't give it to you!
For example:
It's not enough that Palin produced perfect contrast, you HAD to show that Biden was a mistake! And make no mistake, on VP choice, Biden IS the mistake. I earned as many votes a Biden in his 2 shots at president,I've aslo given more in charity. More seriously, Joe Biden is NOT responsible for anything he says, that's criminal---and a missed opportunity, among MANY! Race will have nothing to do with this outcome, simply because McCain is not forcing an issue, race or otherwise!




Everything is race to Leftie Democrats :
Even things that are not race are race. Islam is race; national origin is race; culture is race; economic status is race; gender is race; occupation is race. Yes, everything and every difference except the Caucasian race is race.

That is their mindset because there has to be some conflict between groups, otherwise their whole philosophy collapses. No conflict? No problemmo; invent one.

It's a beauty contest
I talk politics in public. On the checkout line, to the guy at the next gas pump, everywhere. I must have had 200 people tell me they are voting for Obama because "it's time we had a black president." Almost all the people that say this are white. After all, some mention we have had a black Miss America. I live in Texas. Unfortunately this is how people think. They simultaneously hold the belief that the president just gives speeches and provides a public face for the country and the idea that the president makes all the laws something like an ancient pharoah.

@ Gary:
It seems to me that you have chosen ad hominems as your ammo instead of facts. have you forgotten the GOP operatives under the leadership of Bolton (yes, the UN Bolton) that were flown to Florida in an Enron jet in order to usurp the recount process? Of course you have forgotten that, because you Brownshirts choose to forget what is not convenient for you. That is called Doublethink, and yet you call us Socialist! Hahaha..

John Location: NY Reply # 207 Date: Oct
Subject: Lovely to see....
that the Brownshirts are losing the debate even on their own turf! Priceless!

I did not know libs wore brown shirts, did they get them from ACORN?

LMFAO hic! (not used with blubberbutt the seatbuffers permission, because I will NEVER ask for it!)

McCain/Palin 08!
Palin/Jindal in 2012!

Biden shoots Obambi in the foot.
What The Dem VP pick has to say about Obambi:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R20pQK5KO2E

http://www.immigrationshumancost.org/text/crimevictims.htm l
Free Ramos and Compean

"A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have."

-Thomas Jefferson


SunThe1 sayz:
Bottom line on race
If 92% of white people voted for the white person, Obama would not even be the nominee.

Fair and good point. I still think Mr. Powell did it for race.
Here is someone agreeing on that subject.

http://voices.kansascity.com/node/2492

LMFAO hic! (not used with blubberbutt the seatbuffers permission, because I will NEVER ask for it!)

McCain/Palin 08!
Palin/Jindal in 2012!

Biden shoots Obambi in the foot.
What The Dem VP pick has to say about Obambi:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R20pQK5KO2E

http://www.immigrationshumancost.org/text/crimevictims.htm l
Free Ramos and Compean

"A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have."

-Thomas Jefferson

John, the moron from NY
Fair elections! In '00 every lib organization and newspaper in the country went to Florida and recounted the vote by hand and came away with the same result. Even though Gore had all absentee military ballots disallowed.

And you dare compare that to ACORN and other Hate America First organizations who round up anybody they can, including illegals, to vote dem as much as 75 times? ...for a dollar per vote?

And the racist/liar/muslim/street thug is only ahead by the margin of error in most places?

YOU are what's wrong with this country.

Lovely to see....
that the Brownshirts are losing the debate even on their own turf! Priceless!

Will
"Change" include tolerance for Conservatives also?
I think not. LMFAO
From one of the THSquad members.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQalRPQ8stI

LMFAO hic! (not used with blubberbutt the seatbuffers permission, because I will NEVER ask for it!)

McCain/Palin 08!
Palin/Jindal in 2012!

Biden shoots Obambi in the foot.
What The Dem VP pick has to say about Obambi:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R20pQK5KO2E

http://www.immigrationshumancost.org/text/crimevictims.htm l
Free Ramos and Compean

"A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have."

-Thomas Jefferson

...............
All I see here are pathetic attempts to drag Obama into the muck, If you Brownshirts were spending this much energy to talk about your own pitiful candidates, you might have been ahead...... No, even then you could not have been ahead because the America is REJECTING you and your vile atavism of ideology.

paul
You asked "How can the man who voted against the troops ammo and supplies in the middle of the war become their commander in chief??? "

Yah, and opted not to visit wounded- went to shoot hoops instead.
And pals around with the group that launched the General Betrayus ad.
And said he'd certainly take General Petraeus' opinions into account just as he would Wesley Clark's.

Did he register with the selective service when he was 18? If not, why not?
No one has ever asked him that.

Voter Fraud this for Eleanor #67
So you think all this regristration voter fraud is just some ACORN employees trying to make a buck? You didn't watch the Dem's Primary very closely did you? Obama fraudlently stoled the Nomination with help by ACORN and other Get Out the Vote fraud. Go to
http://wewillnotbesilenced2008.com/video/index.htm
And see this is not the first time Obama has paid for and sent ACORN out to try and get him elected. By planting a few Mickey Mouse, and notable sports personality names they are trying to make it look like its a few of ACORNs staff just trying to make a little extra money ... you would be wrong. Fraud will be in play on election day, they just don't want you to 'get it', thus the distractions, the decoys. Let a few nobodies go to jail for the cause, but accomplish your goal. Vote early, vote often .. using different names of course. Look at the Primary election for proof!

ray
Interesting insight about union members. Thanks.
Made me wonder whether the unions will become powerful enough at some stage to attain the right to go into the voting booth with their members...

Obama's previous election wins
Have been aided by his opponents suddenly being declared ineligible on a technicality, their divorce details being suddenly publicised, crooked caucuses.

Oh, yah--we're expecting a fair election.

He might be a good enough guy, but his "machine" is very powerful. He may not even be aware yet that he will belong to them.

Eleanor: Voter registration vs fraud
You're right, they're not the same.

Actually, the voter registration fraud precedes the actual voting fraud. That happens on election day when they drive buses through neighborhoods and round up homeless and others and take them to the polls to vote as (fill in name of acorn-registered voter). Free cigarettes.



Soros behind the curtain
For some "inexplicable" reason, I keep seeing Soros behind the curtain pulling Obama's strings.

One comment about Chicago politics and it's proud heritage of corruption. I have a friend whose family became Republican in the early 50s when the Dem ward bosses would tell new citizens "this is a Democracy, so you have to vote Democrat or you'll get deported." My friend's family knew better, and the outrage turned them into Republicans.

I've known Republican poll watchers who received threatening phone calls the evening before an election to "stay away or else."

Enough dead people have voted in Chicago to populate a small country; 200,000 of them to steal the election for Kennedy in 1960. And n ow we have Acorn.

Democrats=The party of sneers and smears.

There is real danger here
Since McCain became the GOP nominee-apparant, I did not think he could win. I still think he is a disaster and that anyone who votes for him is doing a major disservice to the nation. (The same goes for anyone who votes of Obama.)

But I think the worm is turning. I think that Obama's general smarminess is going to cost him the election. I don't think it will sit well with lots of people that he is already planning his victory party & naming his cabinet. Besides, that's hubris & hubris generally gets punished.

But there is danger here. If he doesn't get elected, there is a large segment of the population that will think they have been cheated. We are likely to see violence in the inner cities should Obama lose.

What about Obama-Messiah's followers?

If Barack Obama is so ignorant he can not understand what is being said after reading the material and listening to over 100 sermons a year (according to Obama) for 23 years.

How ignorant must his 'Followers' be?

This is NOT about 'Mentor Wright' this is about the ignorance of Barack Obama.

I wonder what Barack Obama would understand coming from any meeting with anyone?

Is Obama that IGNORANT?

Is Obama that IGNORANT?

Barack Obama read James A. Cone's racist rants.

Sat in a pew 23 years listening to Jeremiah Wright's racist 'Black Value System' and did NOT know he was sitting and listening to someone who hated America - "God Damn America" - should at least been a 'clue'.

The question of judgment when Obama chose 'Mentor wright' is bad enough but the ignorance displayed by Obama is breathtaking.

When Obama sits down for meetings with Ahminajead, how many times will they have to meet before Obama knows what Ahminajead is talking about - 1000 meetings, 2000 meetings, ever?

Barack Obama must be to ignorant to negotiate with those who want to destroy America or was he lying about his trusted 'Mentor Wright'?


The biggest reason to vote for McCain
He would defend America against any enemy with everything he has. He has done so.
Obam on the other hand, has not even raised his voice one time to do so.


The other reasons:
MoveOn, Huffpo, ACORN, Ayers, Jeremiah Wright.

More reasons:
Don't want my tax dollars to fund abortions
Don't want my tax dollars to fund an army of community organizers.

Oh and did I mention he has no experience?

The Difference
The difference between an American black like Thomas Sowell who "has sold out to his white benefactors" or gone from beng a proverbial fictive kinship "brotha" to an "Uncle Tom" and American blacks who attacks his intellectual genius and honest candor is this: That this American black has an education! His detractors have nothing more than the same indoctrination received by followers of Karl Marx, Fredrick Engles, Joseph Stalin, Leon Trotsky, Vladimir Lenin, Mao and Deng. Now, this might make quite a law firm. But, this is really quite a party! This is who Obama aspires to.

Bottom line on race
If 92% of white people voted for the white person, Obama would not even be the nominee.