“(W)e have really, truly good white people in important positions. And the fact of the matter is that there are a limited number of those positions. And unless we are conscious of the need to have more people of color, gays, other people in those positions we will not change the problem.Lloyd's definition of "diversity" means white people "step down" so "more people of color, gays" and "other people" "can have power." And thereby "change the problem" and achieve "media diversity."
“We're in a position where you have to say who is going to step down so someone else can have power.”
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