Rep King (R-NY) on Mosque: The Great Communicator Is "Trying To Have It Both Ways"

Obama is a great communicator. Through literary flourish, Hengler advances the concept.


If he could, I'm sure Greg would apologize for confusing you.

but about celebrating victory.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/watercooler/2010/aug/5/ cordoba-house-was-named-reason/

"So, um, who exactly is the "Great Communicator"?"


Great point. Argument won due to a technicality. Guess we should all stop discussing the matter and let it move forward...

Headline: Rep King (R-NY) on Mosque: The Great Communicator Is "Trying To Have It Both Ways"

Hengler: To recycle the Great Communicator's catch phrase: He is acting stupidly.

So, um, who exactly is the "Great Communicator"?

you go on and on self flagellating yourself, calling "teabaggers" cowards, saying they "cant shoot straight", and calling them illogical. you ought to know, since you and your liberal talkalikes are the teabaggers. what i would like to know is, are you going to remove the messiah's vestigial testacles from your mouth long enough to try to take away my guns, or are you just going to keep mumbling about it? it is hard to understand you as long as you keep teabagging.

in taffy's world, my comment, "taffy, please dont give notw all the credit for opposing your stupidity" is answered with "nobody singles out notw for stupidity" this is typical liberalspeak: the overused strawman. misrepresent what an opponent says, then weakly attempt to refute the liberals own words. what color is the sky in your world, taffy?

"Yes; because Jews and or Christians didn't hijack 3 airliners and use them on 9-11, 2001 to flatten the Twin Towers in New York City"

OK, that makes sense.

Our next step will be to shut down any Baptist or Catholic churches within two blocks of a bombed abortion clinic.

Next, we'll shut down all Catholic churches within two blocks of a playground. The Roman Catholic church is far more deeply involved in child abuse than Islam's religious leadership is in terrorist attacks.

in virtually every post you prove who the intolerant vile hater is.

Some may lose their patience with you and lash out with a name here or there, but at least most their posts have substance and creditability -- yours is nothing but a sewer of bile hate.

Polls say the right is happier than the left - and daffy is living proof.

You are comparing manners and civility - with slavery and desegregation?! That is an insane comparison.

Not ONE political leader in either party that has said Muslims do not have the civil right to build. Or suggested we segregate Islam from other religions.

In the HONOR (a word you know NOTHING about) of the 9/11 victims, and the attack on America - it is *suggested* for the sake of National harmony, that they move the Mosque to a more suitable location.

This is not a irrational request. To think it is however -- is in itself irrational.

"It was your group, after all, who coined "teabagger" as your call "


Lets go with your premise that it was a phrase that came from within and not MSNBC.You had that explained to you before. But nothing seems to stick:

When you use it in a deragatory way, it is akin to black people being called the N word. While they use it with each other in a humorous way, it is racist and bigotted for those outside the group to do so, as you do. Therefore you are being a bigot.

Please cut n paste, print onto a sheet and post it above you computer as a daily reminder to your behaviour.

And thank you for not bothering to discuss fair questions regarding the discussion. Those tennis balls lobbed at your paddle can be...

Just caught your 6:51 post.

Thanks for proving, like most every progressive, you have zero sense of humor and are uptight beyond being healthy.

Good luck with that an@l attentiveness in life

It was your group, after all, who coined "teabagger" as your call to 'form mobs without a cause'. Now you want to claim victimhood just because it was your mistake to not fully vet the name with a simple Google search? See, this is where the coward label takes form for you and sticks. You guys can't stand by anything that doesn't allow you to hide behind your guns and fearmongering.

And I'm sorry - I think you misread my post and quoted me out of context, which is typical of the Rightwing teabagger [ie: pulling a brietbart] on the "stupid" remark I posed to curmudgeon, who apparently felt left out.

As for the "cut and paste" - glad you saw the quote I posted as "lucid". Apparently, you do have some capacity for absorbing...

"Nobody singles NOTW out for stupidity"

Thats because I am lucid and make logical statements. For a moment I thought you were lucid, not that its was anything agreeable. But then realized you simply cut and pasted the NYT OpEd.

Christian had a chance to have a rational discussion about philoshical differences yesterday, but his brain must have seized as he couldn't respond with any thought to fair questions.

You're welcome to the same level of respect if you were able, but again, its like you 3 (daffy included) are bringing ping-pong paddles to a tennis match.

And once again with the bigotted use of teabagger? You shouldn't lecture on what you practice. Its hypocritical. Yet, even after being shown how it is...

"Your name calling might just indicate you, yourself are a bit of a hate monger, a racist, and a bigot...those labels you love to attach to we Conservatives. The 'do-as-I-say-and-not-as-I-do' shiit doesn't cut it."

"you stupid pile of shiit."
"Daphnedipshiit"

----Ronna, the self-proclaimed hatemonger, racist and bigot. Add to that mix, extremely ignorant and angry, and you've got a typically ironic, vicious breed of teabagger.

By the way, take your guns away and you become a bunch of silly schoolgirls shrieking at every shadow.

This is the Party of Cowardice, not Patriots.

Nobody singles NOTW out for stupidity without including you as well, so rest assured.

Basically, you fall into one category on this issue of the "mosque at Ground Zero". The scared sheep of wrong-thinking.

It's quite sad that the folks who just a few years ago were bellowing "cut and run" and cranking out "weak" leadership diatribes are now the thin-skinned, callow whiners looking to hide under the skirts of Gingrich and Beck while propping up King's xenophobia as 'leadership' we can trust.

Your name calling might just indicate you, yourself are a bit of a hate monger, a racist, and a bigot...those labels you love to attach to we Conservatives. The 'do-as-I-say-and-not-as-I-do' shiit doesn't cut it.

I am a self-proclaimed hater of any and all who would attempt to destroy we Americans way of life, our heritage and our children and grandchildrens future, and I don't make any excuses, or ask forgiveness of anyone. You Liberals on the other hand, are guilty of being all the above, but you don't have the cajones to admit any of it.
Crawl back under yoru safe little rock; the world does not need your input on anything.

"Yes, and they put him to death, didn't they?"

Well, Ronna - basically your logic, if it follows what I wrote, is that the entire Christian, militia-lovin', gun-totin' crowd should also be put to death because McVeigh IS the face of all that - just like you all want to make the Imam in NYC the face of bin Laden terrorism.

If it is not false analogies that pollute this debate, it is false populism. The people are opposed. John Boehner, the House minority leader, says so, and so does Rep. Peter King, the Long Island Loud Mouth who is clearly running for something. They are right -- but so what? Would they have liked Lincoln to have deferred to popular sentiment in the South regarding slavery? Would they have liked Truman to have polled the Army about desegregation? Minority rights are embedded in our Constitution. It was the perceived lack of them that caused the states to seek some immediate amendments, what we now call the Bill of Rights. King, Boehner and the rest of the GOP mob are showing a fearless willingness to pander to majority prejudice. Newt...

... we have seen politicians like Rick Lazio, a Republican candidate for New York governor, question whether Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf, the principal figure behind the project, might have links to “radical organizations.”

The problem with such claims goes far beyond the fate of a mosque in downtown Manhattan. They show a dangerously inadequate understanding of the many divisions, complexities and nuances within the Islamic world — a failure that hugely hampers Western efforts to fight violent Islamic extremism and to reconcile Americans with peaceful adherents of the world’s second-largest religion.

Most of us are perfectly capable of making distinctions within the Christian world. The fact that someone is a Boston Roman...

But a christian, militia-enthusiast and pro-gun advocate bombed the Oklahoma building that killed and maimed hundreds of people, including children in a daycare facility inside.
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Yes, and they put him to death for it didn't they???????

your use of the liberal term "teabagger" is offensive. us conservatives didnt even know what the word meant until we saw the giggling and teeheeing disgusting liberal perverts at msnbc calling teapartiers "teabaggers". if you were at all honest, which you are not, you would admit that teabagging is a perversion favored by liberals, and has nothing to do with your enemies, the patriots who oppose your attempts to destroy our country. you are the teabagger, taffy.

please dont give notw all the credit for opposing your stupidity. regarding the idea that "king plays into bin ladens hands", by recognizing islam for the murderous conspiracy that it is: how long would you pretend that the problem is just a few radicals, when their book, which they happen to believe in, clearly states that they are doing exactly what allah commands? clearly, islam is at war with the west, even if radical liberals that infest the west just dont get it. it isnt radical islam, fool, it is islam. "radical" islam wants to kill us now. "moderate" islam wants to kill us later. or maybe just enslave us. you certainly dont have to worry about being castrated, the treatment that muslims have handed out...

Your Failblog link:
"sh1ts to DC" and Obama's "political foes" are what stick out in this post.

Thanks for putting truth to your 'cause'.

The "Sh1ts" = "Obama's Political Foes".

Perfect!

"Yes; because Jews and or Christians didn't hijack 3 airliners and use them on 9-11, 2001 to flatten the Twin Towers in New York City."

But a christian, militia-enthusiast and pro-gun advocate bombed the Oklahoma building that killed and maimed hundreds of people, including children in a daycare facility inside. Is there a Christian church near that site? How about a GUN SHOP?

Your flimsy argument holds absolutely no water. The bottom line here is that you are now being shown as the Party that adds meaning world-wide to bin Laden's goal. Congratulations, callow republicans.