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Graham: "We're making history. We're making bad history."

Check out the guy behind Graham, he is dumfounded -- like the majority of those who will see this.

A great education Holder has, and I'm sure he would concur with his brilliance -- like his lord, but wisdom consistently appears to be absent from Obama's administration. Via Breitbart

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Corndog2 Wrote: Nov 18, 2009 6:28 PM

It's kind of hard to mirandize an enemy combatant with a .50 cal round through his cranium. Hint Hint.

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The Plumber Wrote: Nov 18, 2009 5:54 PM

Nothing pleases them more than cheapening citizenship.

Democrats are idiots.

Omt, it's only 12 seconds

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKGdkqfBICw

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Nidal Wrote: Nov 18, 2009 5:46 PM

FREE THE GITMO FIVE - NOW!!!

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Exeye Wrote: Nov 18, 2009 3:25 PM

INVOLVES criminal activity, but the terrorism, itself, invokes a whole special approach. That's why Joyce Chesimard is not just some run-of-the-mill murderer of state troopers (which is why Cuba granted her asylum- she was a fellow traveler). NONE of these guys were caught here engaging in terroristic actions; they were apprehended on a foreign battlefield, which means NONE of the Federal Laws of Evidence apply, ONLY military tribunal laws do. Brush off your Nuremberg documents and get to it, and stop with the silly fiction of our "rule of law" showing how civilized we are. These are enemy combatants, and they are NOT entitled to the protections of the Constitution, as Chesimard was. And in case you haven't noticed, we're a little past...

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Crispian Wrote: Nov 18, 2009 3:20 PM

And this illustrates the real differences between the two parties, even where certain members (like Graham) are not ideologues. Graham is exactly right on this issue.

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SJA Wrote: Nov 18, 2009 3:20 PM

That lawyer thing for Septic was just another of her elaborate lies.

Hopefully she is off researching the Geneva Convention and learning what it actually calls for.

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Skycdr Wrote: Nov 18, 2009 3:14 PM

Ok fine. Geneva Conventions it is. They should be tried at a war tribunal, convicted, then taken out an shot as spies or saboteur. This would be in accord with the Geneva Conventions.

How asinine that you would want us to give non-Americans the same rights as citizens. Especially ones captured outside of the U.S.

Of course, you're probably a typical libtard "citizen-of-the-world," as opposed to being an American. You and your brother in inanity, Tyler!!!

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NOTW Wrote: Nov 18, 2009 3:10 PM

I thought you were a constitution lawyer in your former life here?

Wrong again on the Geneva Conventions for these combatants.

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Diane122 Wrote: Nov 18, 2009 2:58 PM

sceptyczny - No matter how many times you declare otherwise, Congress DID authorize the war in Afghanistan consistent with the requirements of the War Powers Act.

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?c107:2:./temp/~c107Nd D2id::

Since passage of the initial resolution, Congress has authorized additional funding to continue both the War in Afghanistan and the War in Iraq 17 times. Obama has stated that additional funding requests will be done through the budget.

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Speedicut Wrote: Nov 18, 2009 2:56 PM

a civil trial WILL give them the notoriety and PR they crave. it WILL elevate their status. sheesh.

They are illegale enemy combatants engaged in making war on the United States.

I noticed that none of ye dem/libs who suddenly believe in the goodness of the U.S. have answered the charge that Holder his ownself has already biased ANY jury with his "failure is not an option" guarantee of a guilty verdict.

where will the Muslem terrorists get a jury of their peers? I mean, besides Berkeley and Detroit?

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Dread Wrote: Nov 18, 2009 2:35 PM

[That Holder cannot distinguish between terrorist activity and criminal activity...]

Terrorist activity IS criminal activity. These monsters do not need to be given elevated status or special treatment (beyond any necessary court safeguards to keep national security secrets under wraps)

Drag 'em out of their hiding places, frog march them into court, and throw them into general population after we convict them.

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dreadnaught2 Wrote: Nov 18, 2009 2:33 PM

"no accountability these days
So, let's say Holder and Obama are totally 100% wrong on this issue. I don't see where they will be held accountable for anything. The D.C. crowd takes care of its own."

SURE!

That's what has been making Sarah Palin a powerhouse, both speaking out, and as a potential president. She's an outsider; not one of the DC clones, who only work there to perpetuate themselves! Can you imagine how she irritates guys like Richard Byrd; who just completed 99 years in DC! And so many other fixtures. They ought to be ashamed.

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KATZ Wrote: Nov 18, 2009 2:29 PM

Holder, like Obama, is a dumb a**. And, frankly, both of them need their a**es kicked right up between their shoulder blades. These people are abominable.

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Retired Lady Wrote: Nov 18, 2009 2:28 PM

people in charge do NOT have the best interests of the nation at heart! This admin is doing everything in its power to destroy the integrity and the safety of this nation! That Holder cannot distinguish between terrorist activity and criminal activity is a symptom of an earlier admin in which he worked and the consequences of those decisions led to 9/11! This case is already favoring the 5 indicted, they will turn the Fed court into a 3-ring circus and Holder will NOT be the Ringmaster but rather one of the clowns tumbling out of the crazy-car!

Diane you can't use cold, hard facts with scepti, she can only parrot! She represents the intellect that is a Captain Obumbles devotee!

Kenny Z, I think you might just have...

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Tyler WA Wrote: Nov 18, 2009 2:19 PM

Freedom and Liberty

yes we will read him his rights

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sceptyczny Wrote: Nov 18, 2009 2:15 PM

9/11 we were not then, nor are we now, officially at war with 'terrorists'.

If we are, then these folks are entitled to implementation of various Geneva Conventions.

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Fat Man Wrote: Nov 18, 2009 2:12 PM

He - and Obama - are thinking like radical leftists with a deep, thorough disdain for the U.S. and the U.S. Military.

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gerald195 Wrote: Nov 18, 2009 2:11 PM

holder sure did alot of studdering didnt he

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Kenny Z Wrote: Nov 18, 2009 2:09 PM

To the Obama administration there are no such things as terrorists, not sure what they call them, maybe misguided Muslims! These trails are about putting Bush and the CIA on trail not seeking justice for terrorists (or misguided Muslims).

Also, this is another diversion so the administration is getting ready to pull off another whopper behind our backs. Slick Harry is going to try to sneak the Pelosi Unconstitional Bill through the Senate like she did through Congress. Maybe the diversion is for that.

Maybe they are trying to get us to forget the deep bows and kowtowing to all the Eastern leaders and getting our marching orders from them. Maybe to get us to forget that the Chinese asked him how he was going to pay for...

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Origanalist Wrote: Nov 18, 2009 2:00 PM

If Lindsay Grahmnesty can get it right. There is no reason for this other than to put the Bush administration on trial. They don't care who it places in jeopardy or how it weakens our defenses against attack.

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Dread Wrote: Nov 18, 2009 1:57 PM

[terrorists are not common criminals.]

Yes, they are. Terrorists are murderers and thugs who need to be dragged into the light and exposed as the cowards they are.

And doing so with respect to the rule of law helps prevent their message of the West being at war with all Muslims from spreading.

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Lolo1 Wrote: Nov 18, 2009 1:56 PM

is establishing a precedent that undoes years of precedent and history.

BTW...No we didn't declare war, but they did! That requires a military court, not a civilian court.

The naive liberals in this country are costing us dear.

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Diane122 Wrote: Nov 18, 2009 1:56 PM

scept - Wrong.

Congress approved military engagement, as follows:

2001 War on Afghanistan, called Operation Enduring Freedom, SJ Res 23, Sept 14, 2001

Iraq War, known as Operation Iraqi Freedom, HJ Res 114, Oct 6, 2002.

Section 2(b) of SJ Res 23 states that the resolution meets the requirements of the War Powers Resolution, consistent with section 5(b) of that Resolution.

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Speedicut Wrote: Nov 18, 2009 1:49 PM

"I'm proud of pardoning Mark Rich"

and to Graham's question:

"I DON'T CARE. OBAMA DON'T CARE. WE ARE LIBERALS MARXIST SOCIALISTS ANTI-AMERICANS. WE DON'T CARE. AMERICA AIN'T SPECIAL."

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Charles Wesley Wrote: Nov 18, 2009 1:48 PM

He is thinking like a prosecuting attorney and not like a country at war. His perspective on Bin Laden is that we already have enough evidence to convict him regardless of how his capture and prosecution is treated. He is correct Bin Laden would go to prison after some costly and embarrassing trial. But if we captured Bin Laden we need to MORE than just to convict the man for his past crimes. He needs to be aggressively interrogated about crimes that he has planned that have yet to be committed.

This is where Holder is way off base. We are at war with these people. War is dynamic and they are organized combatants in an ongoing conflict. They have information of value. Their very lives are of value and could be traded if...

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