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Sunday, August 10, 2008
George Will :: Townhall.com Columnist
Things Have Not Always Been the Same
by George Will
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WASHINGTON -- The Oxford English Dictionary dates the word "pogrom" from 1905, the year hundreds of Russian Jews were massacred in Odessa. In 1908, there was a pogrom of sorts in Illinois. It occurred in Springfield 100 years ago this week. So, consider the phenomenon of progress, which at the moment seems more contingent than it did just a decade ago.

On the night of Aug. 13, Mabel Hallam, a pretty young white woman whose husband Earl was working the night shift as a streetcar conductor, retired early. Around 11:30 p.m. she was awakened by a man's weight on her. "Why, Earl," she said, "what is wrong with you?" The man, who was not Earl and was black, said, "I am drunk." He raped her and fled. So she said.

"Negro's Heinous Crime" and "Dragged From Her Bed and Outraged by Negro" were the next day's headlines. As Jim Rasenberger reconstructs events in his fine book "America 1908," police plucked black men from the streets of Hallam's neighborhood until she identified one, George Richardson, as her assailant. By 5 p.m. the jail was surrounded by a mob of at least 4,000 baying for blood. Eighty-nine blacks would be lynched in America in 1908.

Springfield's sheriff enlisted a leading citizen -- owner of the city's largest restaurant, and of a fast automobile -- to spirit Richardson and another black man also accused of rape out of town. This further inflamed the mob, which destroyed the restaurant -- a white patron was killed by a stray bullet -- piled its furnishings on the owner's overturned automobile, and burned the pile.

For the next six hours the rioters, fueled by liquor looted from the restaurant, sacked two black neighborhoods, setting fires and blocking fire wagons and cutting their hoses. Forty black homes were destroyed, as were 21 black and several Jewish businesses. Thousands of Springfield's blacks fled into the countryside; some never returned.

After beating an elderly black man and a paralyzed black man, at 2 a.m. the mob seized a 56-year-old black barber from his home, beat him unconscious, hanged him from a tree and mutilated his body. Souvenir hunters carved away bits of the tree, which was entirely gone by the end of the day.

The next night a mob of 500 brought a rope and proceeded to the home of a prominent and wealthy 84-year-old black man who, standing in front of his house, inquired, "Good evening, gentlemen. What can I do for you?" He was beaten, slashed with a razor, hanged from a tree too supple to bear his weight. He was alive when troops from the state militia reached him. He died that night.

The next day's New York Times headline read:

"RIOTERS HANG ANOTHER NEGRO

Mobs in Springfield, Ill., Defying 3,000 Soldiers,

String Up Old and Innocent Victim"

One hundred seventeen rioters were indicted. One was fined $25 for petty larceny; another, a teenager, was sent to a reformatory. Mrs. Hallam later admitted that she invented the attack to explain to her husband some bruises inflicted by her boyfriend.

Now, fast forward to 10 years ago, when Americans were intoxicated by fumes from myriad triumphs. The Cold War had been won, the Gulf War had been a cakewalk, Russia was democratizing, China was locked in the logic of the Starbucks Postulate (give people a choice of coffees and a choice of political parties will soon follow) and everyone was becoming rich with technology stocks. The exhaustion of various fighting faiths -- fascism, communism, socialism -- meant there was no remaining ideological rival to the American model for organizing a modern society. Few Americans anticipated aggression from people who despise modernity.

Today, Russia's government is despotism leavened by assassination, China will achieve universal emphysema before meaningful universal suffrage, and Americans, in a slough of despond about economic difficulties that have not yet even reached a recession, gloomily embrace an inversion of the Whig Theory of History, which holds, or once did, that progress -- steadily enlarged and ennobled liberty -- is the essence of the human story.

So, remember Springfield. The siege of the jail, the rioting, the lynching and mutilating all occurred within walking distance of where, in 2007, Barack Obama announced his presidential candidacy. Whatever you think of his apotheosis, it illustrates history's essential promise, which is not serenity -- that progress is inevitable -- but possibility, which is enough: Things have not always been as they are.

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White Holocaust
Not only are there no longer White-inflicted pogroms in America, minority crimes against Whites are not reported at all by the mainstream media, giving aid and comfort to thugs. There is a legitimate need for a Whiteness movement apart from "racialists", skinheads and other trash.

Well Done!

Keep writing like this Sir...

And someone will hand you a Pulitzer Prize :)

perfect argument
for the possession of guns by the citizens.

yea, the 4th amendment protects the 1-10th.

adios,
ab normal
lancaster, mexifornia
push 1 for english now

Carlos, AB Normal
Two of my very favorites here now! You need to post more frequently!

Wal-Mart
The other day, in a Wal-Mart, a lady addressed me about the "foreigner" (who was wearing a burqa, the sign of being a devout Muslim in a secular place). The "foreigner" could not help the lady, the rude lady, because this Muslim-American "foreigner" couud "not understand or speak English." Turned out, not so.

I said, "Excuse me." And my repetition of this and tone of voice sent the whitey old hag scurrying away. Now there is a kind of bond between me and the Muslim lady.

But these bonds, in America, in Pennsylvania, in Ohio, in Virginia, in Colorado--these ties that bind, to quote Springsteen, are still few and far between.

For this reason--and Obama's lack of common sense on the Energy Independence Issue--Obama seems destined to lose in November.

But if so, What will McCain do about the 1.4 billion Muslims who are increasingly sympathetic to OBL? Threaten the Muslim citizens of the world even more? Not a good thing, not if one fourth of Scheuer's book, "Marching Toward Hell," is true--and it rings true to me.

That same hate that might defeat Obama could turn around and, someday, Nagasaki America.

After the election.....
There seem to be only two choices left in America now that Obama has "changed" us into a more racist nation than before:

A) Obama wins: The black community, which is voting while closing their eyes as they have a black man on the ticket, riots like after an NBA win in Detroit and thinks "now its our turn", AND;

B) McCain wins and their "viable candidate" was robbed of the election and they riot like after an NBA win in Detroit and thinks "it was finally our turn and 'the man' screwed us."

Want to see the face of racism in America now? You have a better chance of finding it in the black community. I have been forced to draw my weapon three times in the last two years. I am a white male. My attackers were the same ones Jesse Jackson worries about.

Yes, Some Things are Better
Perspective is always useful and, no doubt, many things are better now than 100 years ago. But,(and you knew there was a "but" coming) not everything is better in terms of liberty.

Blasphemy laws have been replaced by speech codes.

The city of Washington is preparing a new assault on an individual's right to bear arms in defiance of the Supreme Court.

No one's home is safe from the rent-seeking hordes wielding eminent domain with the cooperation of the local politicos.

The infallibility of the Pope is thought to be a quaint anachronism but a sitting president proclaims himself infallible in matters of national security.

What is the same is that liberty still has its enemies. The forms have changed, (socialism is now environmentalism, censorship is now political correctness) but the essence remains the same. The struggle is still between the individual who would be free and the mob that would subdue him.

Things have not always been as they are
The Springfield Riot happened a hundred years ago, and reading it is appalling. It was a hysteria, like political correctness is today.

If the reparations crowd haven't yet turned it into a cause celebre, it's just a matter of time before its trundled out in the ongoing fight to beat the civil rights lobby's efforts to "keep your eyes on the prize" and "keep the dream alive". The dream being continued power and influence of the folks who rode to fame and fortune on Civil Rights in the 1960s.

We are still evolving.
When was the Kitty Hawk flight success? In a lifetime we were on the moon. Some folks can keep up to speed and some cannot. Elements of society are on top of the tech curve of the future and others are just lying in gutters or living the life of Ma and Paw Kettle.

Man's inhumanity to man will continue even when we are on another planet.
Don Jones

Time for an unpopular theological view.
Human beings are basically evil and the founding fathers recognized that. They knew that power leads a man to be a tyrant. So they instituted checks and balances to keep in check the natural tendency of man to tyranny. But the 20th century brought us the opposite theology - that man is basically good and any "evil" simply requires reeducation. Well Russa and China have provided us pretty good examples of the solution: Reeducation camps. Politically correct speech is only the beginning of our reeducation. The mantra today is "a vote against Obama is a vote for racism". And because a vote against Obama is a hate-vote, a scrutiny into the ballot box would be justified.

What's the point of this article?
George, are you trying to say look how bad the US was and look how we've changed or are you saying we haven't changed but the possibility of change is good enough?
Here's Obama's change:

Any revolutionary change must be preceded by a passive, affirmative, non-challenging attitude toward change among the mass of our people. They must feel so frustrated, so defeated, so lost, so futureless in the prevailing system that they are willing to let go of the past and change the future.

Rules for Radicals, Sal Alinsky

He taught these words to other ACORN workers when a street organizer for ACORN. He's working towards this socialist/marxist change right now and so is particularly Nancy Pelosi.

It's not the color of his skin. It's his ideology. Frankly, I'm getting sick of all the racial blame and rhetoric. This man is also white. So, why doesn't he focus on that? Because he hates whites..just read his book, which, of course he could never have written in 1908.

Wow George
Illinois burning, I'm waiting for the movie.

History's promise?
I can better remember Detroit, 1967, having been there. I await the 'possibility' born of that moment. Certainly not John Conyers, up there on the hood of a car, calling for calm, almost getting lynched. Or Coleman Young, over the next 25 years as mayor, never relenting in his racist rhetoric, driving the whites 'north of 8 Mile.'
Maybe the 'possibility' will show up in a hundred years, within walking distance of a once-great city. But I doubt it. History is not that generous.

Things have not always been as they are.

George Will
I'm not sure what George Will's point was (hope and change?), but I do agree with Steve in NC @ 1:01 AM.

Yes, Americans lynched negroes at one point in history. Mau Maus slaughtered whites in Africa, too. Today is a bad day for whites in Zimbabwe. The most severe black riots in America took place AFTER the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was passed.

Obama's racism is something born of life-long hatred of whites, not of any rational thought process. Obama is incapable of being anything other than a black racist, and the socialists in America are cheering him on.

Elect Obama and see how "grateful" 90% of black Americans will be. His wife, Michelle, will be surrounded by members of the New Black Panther Party.


Not terribly optimistic, sad to say.
This was not one of Will's best.

I guess the gist was that progress is not inevitable, but merely possible...and that that is good enough.

That in itself is a conservative trait, unlike utopian leftists who maintain man's perfection is inevitable by virtue of their rejecting the conservative belief in man's inate disposition toward evil, and instead embracing the notion of man's perfectability arising from simply creating better social institutions.

I am far, far from being a fan of Obama, but McCain worries me alot.

His recent comments about Russia/Georgia fracas leads me to think he might be so reckless as to threaten war with Russia over Georgia.

That, coupled with his war-like stance on Iran presumably could mean, in addition to Afghanistan and Iraq, we get embroiled militarily with Iran and possibly Russia.

Mad dog Johnny on the warpath.

How many boogeymen, how many wars, can Mad dog Johnny conjure up?

We'll take on the whole God-d**ned world, eh, Johnny.

Utterly insane.

And Obama has his own flaws.

His energy policy is totally bankrupt, irrational.

At a time when our nation is desperate for energy, he dithers over whether to embrace more nuclear power plants, and on offshore drilling(reluctantly embracing the latter as part of a "comprehensive" plan).

His tax plan to attack global poverty, his comments on the world having a "say" in what Americans purchase, or their themostat settings, is mindboggling.

Utterly insane.

I don't see much progress here from either candidate.

Jerabaub, et al, agreed, not Will's
best, only 3*** imo, which is the lowest i've ever given him.

For me the problem is at the end of the article, when he 'defines' Whig progress as "steadily enlarged and ennobled liberty." by that def, no, there hasn't been Steady progress in russia and china, but i would say there has been some, at least since the Stalin/Mao days. you know, 2 steps forward, 1 step back.

for an alleged conservative like Will, it should not only be steadily enlarging liberty, but a concomitant growth in acceptance of duties and responsibilites which go hand in hand with liberty, as in, 'ordered liberty.'

Apollo well written
"What is the same is that liberty still has its enemies. The forms have changed, (socialism is now environmentalism, censorship is now political correctness) but the essence remains the same. The struggle is still between the individual who would be free and the mob that would subdue him."

Thank you





Jack, mymanjones,
Jack, 1st time i've seen 'nagasaki' as a verb.

Jones, from your comment, sounds as if you place an undue reliance on high tech. The summit of tech is the semi-worshipped nuke, not a pleasant invention imo, and on a micro level, re-engineering the gene, to create a new species, also unpalatable.

PS Here in Boston area, much better race relations than we had say in the '70's with school busing, which pit poor whites against poor blacks. Perfect, no, and never will be=original sin, =tendency for human to sin.

Mob Mentality
The Framers of the Constitution were inherently afraid of the mob mentality . . . ANY mob mentality . . . since it is driven by a complete lack of introspection and analytical deliberation. That is why they did NOT want a DIRECT democracy for our legislative processes.

Will and the Cubs
BTW, you notice that almost every summer, the wannabe commissioner of baseball would write a column about the joys and sorrows of being a cubs fan, but i haven't seen him do one yet this year, probably doesn't want to be accused of jinxing them with their 5 game lead.

Another "Huh," Georgie
I think I can follow this article. No I cannot. What is is all about? Perhaps it was ghost-written by Jackie Gingrich. While WW III may have begun in South Ossetia Geo has his mind on 1905. BTW other sources date pogrom to 1882, with many incidents up to 1905. The reference to Springfield - isn't that where some gal threw a baseball through a bottom-less apple basket?

STUPID OFFENSIVE ARTICLE
I gave it a one star - can't go any lower!

International Pogromism
From a less optimistic p.o.v., things have also NOT always been the way they are now in the following way:

What the Russians and the Nazis achieved in terms of state-sponsored hate is now being trumped by the international Islamic Jihadist entity that has globalized the idea of hate and equipped it with suicidal zeal as well as nuclear potential.

Now that's progress.

GWill as James Joyce
Yes, this felt more like a stream of consciousness, impressionistic set of inkblots. Maybe he was just trying his hand at that genre. I doubt this column will go into one of his periodic collected moldy oldy best-of-Will books.

I get it
The point of the article is to say that things can change, have changed, but there is no GUARANTEE of change. The Reason he told this particular bit of history was not to decry American racism, but to show how much has changed in the state of Illinois in that Obama announced his presidential run within walking distance of where anti-black riots and lynching were taking place barely a century ago.

But I suppose some of you missed that, since the very telling of the stories of the lynching gave you an opportunity to start in with the twin cries of "blacks are racist" and "Obama is a racist", that too many seem to lean on a bit too much. Sure there is racism in the black community, just as there is racism among whites, asians, hispanics/latinos, and african/carribeans...that's just part of the human condition. But there is a chance for things to change and our history bears witness to that possibility...and that is Mr. Will's point.

Wake up yourself, George!
Well, George, that was just plain sick!! You shoulda stuck with your opener (re: centuries of horrors against Jews), if slashing at our retinas was your perverted idea of a 'Wake-up Call.'

Every corner of the world has a stupid hate-monger/mob-massacre tale to tell (Florida has Rosewood, when it destroyed a whole village!). But the key word there was WHEN - as is also key to your stupid, sordid article.

100 years ago the world was still flat, to most of the world's Southern Hemisphere... and northern, big-city-U.S. racism was rampant, so someone formed the KKK...

75 years ago a national depression - made worse and longer, as always, by Federal meddling - drove hungry bellies to commit all manner of crimes of hate and fear against Jews and Blacks and Italians and Irish and Indians, and Chinese, and so on and on... Not bloody enough yet?

50 years ago FDR refused to stand against the KKK (now spread south and east), for fear he would lose some VOTES!! Thank Eleanor for her sanity and under-the-table support or we may have suffered a - a POGROM!! [continue later]

Wake up George - part 2
So what was your point, George?! None of this is related to Obama, unless he chooses to create a NEW racist horror/drama in hope (like FDR) of winning votes... Truly, all-else has failed him so far except his cute little mantras for some mystical change. So maybe he should throw in some unicorns and wizards, and ask that Potter-phenom to be his VP - msm loved him too!

Please tell us he's NOT so jealous of the big headlines, he'd ride the coattails of the Darfur disaster, dragging his following of Blacks and Muslims down into the trenches of their hate and fear - and revolution.... Oooops! Starting to sound like another massacre topic, sure to turn some heads in sparkling downtown Chicago!!

Wake up yourself, George, before you ignite a whole lot more racism and hate-mongering than our little 'Land of Ennobled Liberty' can ever endure or resolve! What you speak about is the sodden dregs of evolution, not progress!

Be careful with change
That is the message! You might get what you ask for and find out later that you did not understand the problem.

Joseph, RE: Will and the Cubs
You're right... to my knowledge he hasn't written about this year, but I saw him waxing about it on C-SPAN the other day.

George Will and honest writer, but!
Yes quoting the last words of his article: "Whatever you think of these apotheosis, it illustrates history's essential promise, which is not serenity - that progress is inevitable - but possibility, which is enough: Things have not always been as they are".

Yes, right George Will is so far; however, that past, so very bleak of American history even after Lincoln set the negros free it was all from within, does only pale what is now truly eating up America's very Foundation like earth termites eat up a house built of wood, is the fact that each candidate now goes begging the La Raza for votes to make it to the Oval Office.

Yes, America is now a house fully divided, as the very Scripture indicates: A divided house cannot stand. Yes, with all due respect to Mr. Will, America is now on the road of self-destruction like all previous Empires did.



Barack and Michelles Church
"We are a congregation which is Unashamedly Black and Unapologetically Christian... Our roots in the Black religious experience and tradition are deep, lasting and permanent. We are an African people, and remain "true to our native land," the mother continent, the cradle of civilization. God has superintended our pilgrimage through the days of slavery, the days of segregation, and the long night of racism. It is God who gives us the strength and courage to continuously address injustice as a people, and as a congregation. We constantly affirm our trust in God through cultural expression of a Black worship service and ministries which address the Black Community.

"Trinity United Church of Christ adopted the Black Value System written by the Manford Byrd Recognition Committee chaired by Vallmer Jordan in 1981. We believe in the following 12 precepts and covenantal statements. These Black Ethics must be taught and exemplified in homes, churches, nurseries and schools, wherever Blacks are gathered. They must reflect on the following concepts:

1. Commitment to God
2. Commitment to the Black Community
3. Commitment to the Black Family
4. Dedication to the Pursuit of Education
5. Dedication to the Pursuit of Excellence
6. Adherence to the Black Work Ethic
7. Commitment to Self-Discipline and Self-Respect
8. Disavowal of the Pursuit of "Middleclassness"
9. Pledge to make the fruits of all developing and acquired skills available to the Black Community
10. Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources for Strengthening and Supporting Black Institutions
11. Pledge allegiance to all Black leadership who espouse and embrace the Black Value System
12. Personal commitment to embracement of the Black Value System."

Obama Baptized as Black Separatist

"The appearance of black theology means that the black community is now ready to do something about the white Jesus, so that he cannot get in the way of our revolution." James Cone

"It was because of these newfound understandings (at Trinity under Wright) -- that religious commitment did not require me to suspend critical thinking, disengage from the battle for economic and social justice...that I was finally able to walk down the aisle of Trinity...and be baptized." Barack Obama

Racist hatred is illogical and wrong...
and it demonstrates a facet of human nature that many will not face. The aspect of whites egaging in racism is vilified by the left. However, on the same note it is ignored when the racism is coming from blacks. Obama can engage in racism, as he has, and he will be shield from criticism by the left wing media. If elected we will have to deal with racism and discrimination but it will be other than blacks that will be the target of this racism.

Obama in His Own Words

"I chose my friends carefully. The more politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos. The Marxist professors and structural feminists and punk-rock performance poets." - Barack Obama (Dreams of My Father)
------------------------------------------------

Obama followers say that:

Mentor Wright
Saul Alinsky
William Ayers
Fr.Pfleger
Louis Farrakhan
Tony Rezco
Frank Marshall
and many others 'WERE NOT CHOSEN CAREFULLY'.

Obama then faces one of two charges or both.

Obama was lying when he stated, he carefully chooses friends or Obama is so NAIVE he cannot tell when the people he associates with have a 'Bad Character'.

Either way Obama tells us he is capable of meeting with those like Ahminajead and protecting America.

I can understand why Obama will do or say anything for political expediency - I do NOT agree with that - what I cannot understand is how the Obama followers can believe Obama.

A once famous 'Cult Leader' said 'I do not really believe I am God, I just like for my followers to believe I am God'.

"... a light will shine through that window, a beam of light will come down upon you, you will experience an epiphany ... and you will suddenly realize that you must go to the polls and vote for Obama" - Barack Obama Lebanon, New Hampshire.
January 7, 2008.

Obama Block Religious Right
"We need to take faith seriously not simply to block the religious right but to engage all persons of faith in the larger project of American renewal."
- Barack Obama; The Audacity of Hope; p. 216

"The coming of Christ means a denial of what we thought we were. It means destroying the white devil in us. Reconciliation to God means that white people are prepared to deny themselves (whiteness), take up the cross (blackness) and follow Christ (black ghetto)." [parentheses are Cone's]
- James H. Cone; Black Theology & Black Power; p. 150

Whiteness, as revealed in the history of America, is the expression of what is wrong with man. It is a symbol of man's depravity. God cannot be white, even though white churches have portrayed him as white. When we look at what whiteness has done to the minds of men in this country, we can see clearly what the New Testament meant when it spoke of the principalities and powers. (emphasis mine)
- James H. Cone; Black Theology & Black Power; 150

The real questions are: Where is your identity? Where is your being? Does it lie with the oppressed blacks or with the white oppressors? Let us hope there are enough to answer this question correctly so that America will not be compelled to acknowledge a common humanity only by seeing that blood is always one color.
- James H. Cone; Black Theology & Black Power; p. 152.

Brujo Blanco:
Didn't you know? Blacks CANNOT be racist. Or so they say. Plus they are allowed to riot and are even EXPECTED to riot whenever they don't get their way. Baraka Hussein Obama is a racist and will not be elected.

Can Obama and Black Separatism

Can Obama and Black Separatism heal the 'Racial Divide'?

Can Obama and Black Separatism bring down crime?

FBI and Department of Justice
11,249 agencies; 2006 estimated population 216,685,152 for 2006

17 years old and younger percent of all:
========================================
Murder and nonnegligent manslaughter: 59.2% BLack

Robbery: 67.4% Black

18 years old and older percent of all:
======================================
Murder and nonnegligent manslaughter: 50.0% Black

Robbery: 51.9% Black


Battle for economic and social justice

"It was because of these newfound understandings (at Trinity under Wright) -- that religious commitment did not require me to suspend critical thinking, disengage from the battle for economic and social justice...that I was finally able to walk down the aisle of Trinity...and be baptized." Barack Obama

Obama will "...battle for economic and social justice..."

Obama thinks Marxism and Black Separatism will bring about economic and social justice? ? ?



Ranger Robert, early2rise,
Robert, for once I agree with you, that the US has been overly aggressive in drawing the ex Warsaw pact countries into our empire, which baited Putin et al to react. How would we have liked that if they did that with Canada, Mexico, and we saw how we reacted when they did it with Cuber, as JFK used to say.

Early, how do you know that the poster was really a black rapper? Until they start posting our photo next to our comments, we really don't know if someone is white, black or martian green, or male or female or somewhere in between etc.

Joseph et al

Joseph wrote: "...how do you know that the poster was really a black rapper? Until they start posting our photo next to our comments, we really don't know if someone is white, black or martian green, or male or female or somewhere in between etc..."

What is your point?

Anyone with even a modicum of intelligence knows that most 'Rappers' attack and degrade all females.

I believe that most females are wonderful, delightful and intelligent creatures! ! !

Debasing females is 'Standard Procedure' for allmost all 'Rappers'.

Joseph do YOU LIKE females?

full context of BLACK VALUE SYSTEM
Retired Geek you make alot of good points but you have edited out of THE BLACK VALUE SYSTEM several of its' most racist tenets.

Under concept #8 Disavowal fo the pursuit of "middleclassness" is the following.

"Control of captives teaches that captors must identify the talented tenth of those subjugated. Those so identified are separated for the rest of the people by:

1. Killing them off directly, and/or fostering a social system that encourages them to kill off one another.

2. Placing them in concentration camps, and/or structuring an economic environment that induces captive youth to fill the jails and prisons."

The belle from hell Michelle was only saying what twenty years of hearing the gospel according to Rev Wrong had drilled into her head when she said for the first time in her adult life she was proud to be an American.

It is clear that BO who in his book Dreams From My Father states he was drawn to Trinity UCC after reading the BLACK VALUE SYSTEM in a Trinity publication either subscribes fully to its racist premises or was lying in his own autobiography.

Joseph
Point noted.

My point of posting his rhetoric was to answer Flagwavers comment: "the very telling of the stories of the lynching gave you an opportunity to start in with the twin cries of "blacks are racist" and Obama is a racist."

Why? Posts like that from 'Rap Artist' and sermons from Wright, unfounded cries of racism from the MSM, Al Sharpton, and Jessie Jackson, even BO and his wife's statements and books, are loud weather bells ringing in our ears. Some of us, even today, still take people at their word. The 'great unifier' has brought forth nothing but the greatest divide I have ever witnessed.

What Rap Artist posted is nothing new. We have heard it from rappers, BLT practitioners, spokesmen from the Black panthers, and even from local kids in the neighborhood. We've been hearing it longer than most I suspect. When mayor Street won re-election, he gave a speech..."the brothers and sisters are running things now." He fulfilled every word of that seemingly non-threat. Under Rendell, we were prosperous. A nice city. Now we are a slum. A new highest murder rate. Few are prosecuted. The courts are full of black Judges, black staff, black city officials, black teachers...they are running everything and running it into the ground. Black on white crime is at new highs. Black on Latino crime is also elevated. It is always on our minds...if Street did this to one city, what will be the consequence of BO on an entire country? You may never of seen racial erruptions, but we have. You best believe we are uneasy with BO. His supporters are no different than Streets. Been there, done that. We learned a valuable lesson, listen carefully to everyone's every word.

early 2 rise,
I just finished a 6 month sabbatical in the Phila. area, and I know what you're saying. But if Obomination wins PA, which he probably will, with the high black turnout from Phil., but I think your man Rendell will be largely responsible, he impressed me a lot (from the opposite end of the ideological spectrum of course) how hard he campaigned for Hillary. I would not be surprised if Obalmy took him for veep.

JAG CA et al

I copied what was current at TUCC.

I understand they have 'scrubbed' it before I made my copy.

If you have a copy of the original I sure would like to get my hands on it.

Maybe the 'Black Value System' NOT adopted by TUCC is available somewhere?

Any links?

Thanks for your consideration!

Retired Geek
THE BLACK VALUE SYSTEM in all its racist glory still seems to be up on the internet!

http://www.tucc.org/black_value_system.html

Good luck. And keep up your good work!

I would just like to know
How much money George made for writing this.

"and Americans, in a slough of despond about economic difficulties that have not yet even reached a recession, gloomily embrace an inversion of the Whig Theory of History, which holds, or once did, that progress -- steadily enlarged and ennobled liberty -- is the essence of the human story.

So, remember Springfield."

Never met, or read, or heard of a more smug man than you are Georgie

Joseph
Though I disagree with Rendell, I have to admit he was a decent mayor. He pulled Philly out of a financial mess. His governorship isn't so great. But that's a different horse altogether.

You're spot on with regards to Philly's population. Sadly, they speak for most of the state due to their electorial count by population....which makes the rest of the state rightfully angry. If you look at the electorial map, PA is almost all red with the exception of one big, blue blurp...Philly. Philly coupled with Allentown and Pittsburg always hand the elections to not just dems, but far left dems. Rendell was as conservative as Philly ever managed to get, which isn't saying much. But an apple loaded with worms can look especially tasty to a hungry soul, even more so when the rest of the barrel is covered in feces.

talent scout
BDS has infected your last brain cell.

Time to check into the nearest mental ward!


Takeovers
Remember when the Communists stated that if they couldn't take over the United States militarily they would take over from the inside? An African gentleman (black) was in the U.S. as a divinity student and explained to an area congregation how the muslims have taken control of most of the African nations. They first come in and build activity centers and sports centers for the youth (male). They then build medical facilities for the ill and elderly. THEN they build mosques. Mission accomplished. "Moderate muslim" is an anomaly because if they are moderate they are too frightened of the Imans and their power to speak out. The punishment is possibly death. And death to all Christians is the instructions to the followers of the Koran. If this doesn't make you nervous about a man who stated in a book that if it came down to it he would side with the muslims, I don't know what will. I expect to see Hillary take the nomination from Barry in Denver. This could get interesting. I have no respect for HER, since talking to people in Arkansas in 1993. She is not a nice person. A man from Conway pretty well summed up the opinions they had of the Clintons when he said "I'm glad he's president. It got him the hell out of Arkansas". I'm sticking with a true Patriot--John McCain.

This would be funny
JAG CA writes:- 12:31 PM EST
talent scout
BDS has infected your last brain cell.
====
ts:
If I had not voted for the man.

===
JAG CA writes:
Time to check into the nearest mental ward!
===
ts:
I hear its been filled up with your family members.

You drunk today?

Hey JAG
Is that short for jagged?

Where did I say anything about the President?

Maybe you got me mixed up with someone else or you are drunk one.

talent scout
I thought you were talking about George W. Sorry if I offended your delicate nature.

Retire Geek
You're right about scrubbing of Trinity UCC website. Free Republic and Little Green Footballs both had articles about same on Mar 17 2008. Both articles included deleted portions.

There is also an article in illinoisreview that has the full text of BVS.

When I looked under blackvaluesystem on yahoo today the old webpage from trinity appeared with trinity's logo and the full BVS on display. It seems that cyberspace sometimes preserves what some try to delete.

I Don't Know About You, But
But I DO know that no matter who wins in November, we're all screwed.

PROGRESS IS INEVITABLE

.....BUT IS IT ALWAYS GOOD? ...Progress once lead us into the Dark Ages ...sometimes progress leads us down blind alleys ...

....In about 72 AD Crassus of Rome had about six thousand captured slaves crucified along the Appian Way ...Pompey captured another 5 thousand who had broken through and had fled to the north ...he massacred them ...

.....The majority of those slaves were white ...from Germany and Gaul (France) ...so what is your point Will? ...do I detect a white guilt liberal racial angle to your article? .....COLOSSUS


Glad to see your ok
JAG CA writes: - 12:50 PM EST
talent scout
I thought you were talking about George W. Sorry if I offended your delicate nature.


JAG CA writes:
talent scout
BDS has infected your last brain cell.

JAG CA writes:
Time to check into the nearest mental ward!
====

ts:
relax
I responded out of concern for you.

My delicate nature caused me to be concerned for you, and was my one and only concern when I responded to your wild eyed accusations.

Glad to see you doing better, it brings my delicate nature serenity and peace

Watts and R King riots

Well, this is a surprise. I just did a search for Watts Riots, and find not one reference to that occasion on this article. I did look at Wikipedia, and rather than re-write, I will cut and paste.
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The term Watts Riots refers to a large-scale race riot which lasted six days in the Watts neighborhood of Los Angeles, California, in August 1965. Before the riot had subsided, 34 people had been killed, 1,032 injured, and 3,952 arrested. It would stand as the worst riot in Los Angeles history until eclipsed by the Los Angeles riots of 1992.

The Los Angeles riots of 1992, also known as the Rodney King uprising or the Rodney King riots, were sparked on April 29, 1992 when a jury acquitted four police officers accused in the videotaped beating of black motorist Rodney King following a high-speed pursuit. Thousands of people in the Los Angeles area rioted over the six days following the verdict. Widespread looting, assault, arson, and murder occurred, and property damages totaled one billion dollars. Many of the crimes were gang-motivated or perpetrated. In all, 53 people died during the riots.
------

Well the Illinois riot was 100 years ago, and we say that the white hate for the Blacks has changed for the good (mainly) since then.

But look at those riots, remember who started them, who were both the victims and the perpetrators, then look at the news photos of the riots when some sports team wins a championship, and tell me, when is the misbehavior (a polite term) of the Blacks going to improve, and how will OBamBam help with that.

I would expect that if as a result of bad luck for the USA, OBamBam wins in Nov, riots, burning, and deaths will follow in the days right after the election.

On the other hand, if we have good luck and McCain wins in Nov, riots, burning, and deaths will follow in the days right after the election.


Thank you for reminding us :)
Mr. Wills articles are always a pleasure to read. Brilliant, observant and heart felt without malice or derision.

Having been born in the mid 50's in Iowa and then moving to California in 1965, I have never been a witness to any kind of prejudice towards Women, Blacks, Latinos, Orientals or anyone else for that matter (those are the titles we used back-in-the-day, not politically correct today). It is unfathomable to me to believe that Caucasians were so hateful towards their fellow man, in America.

I truly appreciate being reminded by Mr. Wills of just how far we have come as a people. From slavery to a Presidential candidate; from hatred to brotherhood; and tolerance for all people. It took too long for us to get there, but it is definitely progress.

It would be nice if the people who are responding to these articles could just agree to disagree and leave the mudslinging in the past, along with prejudice.

Jim
"I would expect that if as a result of bad luck for the USA, OBamBam wins in Nov, riots, burning, and deaths will follow in the days right after the election.

On the other hand, if we have good luck and McCain wins in Nov, riots, burning, and deaths will follow in the days right after the election."
------------------
All we can do is pray that the riots are from BO losing and losing badly. I'd be happy with that.

All lies
All Americans know that only the stupid, evil South had lynchings. Illinois is the Land of Lincoln and would never do such a thing.

Rubbish.

talent scout
You're delicate nature has me LOL!

Patricia
"Thank you for reminding us :)
It is unfathomable to me to believe that Caucasians were so hateful towards their fellow man, in America."
-----------------------
You've GOT to be joking! Where have you been that you need reminding? The entire month of February is dedicated to letting you know how hateful caucasians are. The left, the MSM, and black leaders...(some, not all) NEVER let us forget the sins of caucasians living 200 years ago....who most of todays caucasions are of no relation to. If a black man commits a crime, we are lectured not to think of all blacks that way. Yet what a white man did 200 years ago, who is no relation to me, I have to pay a price for. Look what the white man did...they scream. All Germans are not held accountable for Hitler's actions. All muslims are not held accountable to Islam's terroristic actions. All very recent. Yet all white men are held accountable for the actions of the few centuries ago. I find it hard to believe that you haven't heard or needed reminding.

OK...
... as much as I like George Will, I'm still trying to figure out the connection between white lynch mobs in 1908 and the current crisis in the Republic of Georgia.

New Parody
My Blog.

That's the Night that the Lights Went out in Congress.

This is what Georgie wanted to hear
Patricia writes: 1:18 PM EST
Subject: Thank you for reminding us :)
Mr. Wills articles are always a pleasure to read. Brilliant, observant and heart felt without malice or derision.

Having been born in the mid 50's in Iowa and then moving to California in 1965, I have never been a witness to any kind of prejudice towards Women, Blacks, Latinos, Orientals or anyone else for that matter (those are the titles we used back-in-the-day, not politically correct today). It is unfathomable to me to believe that Caucasians were so hateful towards their fellow man, in America.
=====
Oh God yes.

No one living today remembered how bad Caucasians are, and Georgie should be praised as you come to do for his super duper intelligence in reminding us about sins of the past.

The world was not always the Garden of Eden it is today, we have lost so much by forgetting the hate of the Caucasians.

Everything has improved so much today, and the cities are all so orderly and safe.

Aren't you glad you did not live back in those crime filled days Patty?

I know I am

RW, all I can guess is that Will
confused the State of Georgia with the Republic of Georgia!

And someone called Will, the Bow-Tied One, "smug;" maybe he thinks both Georgias were named after him.

BTW, y'all know where the term "to lynch" came from? Captain William Lynch, 1742-1820 (look at those dates, spanned the Rev. and the founding years of the nation), of Pittsylvania, VA (not PA) who belonged to what my dictionary delicately called a "vigilance committee." =hang 'em first, give 'em a fair trial after.

George Will lost in confusion?
What the Hell is George Will's point? If all he wanted to do was to get aboard the hate-America train, then why not choose the Draft Riots of 1863 where many more Negroes were more horribly killed but by drunken Irishmen this time? I have always respected Will until I saw his most recent TV interview only last night and even then I wondered where he had lost his talents. Only the next morning, I read this latest essay and it mades me sure that he has passed his prime and can't think straight anymore.

Racism
Surely, this could not have happened in Yankeeland. After all, everyone knows that only in the South may such evil be found.

Hey Pete in CO
G. Will's point is that things HAVE changed in America. Or don't you think so?

The Possibilities

When governemnt grows too large to be sustained by its citizens we'll see what progress then occurs. I think the old prejudices have merely given rise to new prejudices.

I don't think the fallibility of man has changed but it is clear that the rule of law, a moral rectitude of its people and the promises made through our Constitutional hold more promise for each and every man and woman...If we can but hold on to it.

We have reached a point where we have over promised, taken too much from the individual and commerce. Generations have been bred in a mindset of guarentees.

We may have greater possibilities but only if we reorg on a Federal, State and Local level with a heavy dose of subsidiarism could we avert a decline in liberty the likes of which none of us wish to see. The way the liberals have it planned they would mussle us, bleed us and stay in power indefinitely.

Then you have the appropriations Republicans, divorced from their roots for convenience and personal enrichment..

I have faith and yet it does not reside necessarily in the actions of men. in the shadow of perceived progress. We have better rule of law and yet millions of children have died to abortion many of them black kids. Because we do not see it, a brutal extermination of a race happens?

Why is the government of the land of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness in the business of killing babies? Why isn't this a State's issue and one of the options individuals may contribute directly to if they wish to support it?

Is it progress just because you can't see it?

Linda
Well Said!! :)

Understand point of the column
Apparently many of you have not realized what the BASIS of GW’s column is.

Recently, BHO responded to a 7-year-old girl’s question of "Why would you like to be President?" with this response:

“America is, is no longer, uh, what it could be, what it, it once was,” Obama said haltingly. “And I say to myself, I don’t want that future for my children.” (Obviously he had no prompter or speech writer to save him from his gaffes).

ttp://scaredmonkeys.com/2008/08/08/barack-obama-tells-7-year-old-girl-%E2%80%9Camerica-is-no-longer-what-it-once-was%E2%80%9D/

The 'Messiah' believes that NOTHING positive has happened in America since whenever 'was' stands for. OBVIOUSLY, there have been an astounding number of POSITIVE CHANGES made in America the past century, or BHO would NOT be having the opportunity he has today. He has NO respect for America or its people.


I live with love for my neighbor
Earlier (#60) I said, I had never EXPERIENCED prejudice in my own life, but of course, I know that prejudice exists in America and throughout the ENTIRE WORLD, which will NEVER change. It is also true that Blacks seem to be considerably more prejudice, against EVERY other ethnicity, than any other race. Any RATIONAL Black radio host, writer, or politician, is the first to say that the self appointed 'leaders' of the Black community are constantly keeping them weak by encouraging anger, entitlement, and prejudice against white America. These 'leaders' are the scourge of the earth, self promoting and refuse to let America heal.

No where on Earth is there a Utopia. America is suffering under our current crop of political leaders, who refuse to represent ‘WE THE PEOPLE’ and hold their own agenda well above ours. President Jefferson called for revolution, when the people’s voices were ignored by their representatives. That time may be here.

“a jealous care of the right of election by the people—a mild and safe corrective of abuses which are lopped by the sword of revolution where peaceable remedies are unprovided; absolute acquiescence in the decisions of the majority, the vital principle of republics, from which is no appeal but to force,” –Jefferson 1st inaugural address

George, you forgot a "fighting faith"
"The exhaustion of various fighting faiths -- fascism, communism, socialism -- meant there was no remaining ideological rival to the American model for organizing a modern society. Few Americans anticipated aggression from people who despise modernity."

Oh, I beg to differ, there was one fighting faith that was definitely spooling up ... Islam ... fueled by Jimmy Carter's destabilization of the Shah.

geo.will...and talent scout
Georgie boy...didn't mention the WATTS RIOT.OR THE FOLLOW UP ONE??? Can you believe that..??
Do I smell" GOING PINKO ".................
TALENT SCOUT: you may be frothed at me ...but
Iam still going to read your stuff..because you are very informed and funny!
LIke a black friend of mine once said....if
the @@#$%^&&* Gvmnt. would stay out of our lives and quit addressing us by colors..we would be OKAY and improve our society!
My friend forgot to mention FLAME THROWERS..
like Geo. Will......!!
elvis

Sure is Not like it used to be.
Blacks commit more than half of all murders committed in the US, and it's whites they kill more of than anybody else, blacks 47 percent of the time and whites 49 percent of the time. We are talking about black males here, which are only 6 percent of the population here in the US. That makes them a very homicidal group. I just wonder if that 6 percent of the US population were whites committing more than half of all US homicides where would the despicable left wing propaganda machine aka MSN be? They certainly would not be covering the fact up and I wonder where the federal police agencies would be? Not silent you can bet.

Patricia...
...thanks for setting people here straight. People missed the subtle point of the story. Good post.

More white guilt by George!
I guess with Obama in Hawaii for a few days, there wasn't anyone around to try and make white people feel guilty about the black plight in America, so George took it upon himself to spread enough white guilt for 50 Obama's.

Thanks George!

I suppose we white folk should all feel real bad about what happened in Springfield, IL, and Rodney King, and even OJ, and just, what the hell, all vote for Obama...

Well, I for one refuse to take the bait. I am not voting for Obama. I never lynched anyone. None of my relatives ever lynched anyone...

AND...

the reason I am NOT voting for Obama is becasue he is a socialist pig. I didn't vote for Kerry for exactly the same reason and he is white.

Can't everyone just stop playing the race card -at least while Obama is in Hawaii - probably trying to get his typical white racist grandmother to campaign for him in the Bible clutching/gun toting portions of America?

Patricia num. 60
.
It is generally acknowledged that Iowans have a defective gene.

They are unable to distinguish anything not painted with tassel and corn husks. Where o' where do you live in CA.??. Are you so PC that you see no evil, hear no evil and speak no evil.

What was your point.??. Do you know what a point is.??.
.

George hard to follow, what 'd you say:?
.
Maybe George is preparing a brain cancer for public display or maybe he has a ghost writer while on vacation. The vacation is OK George, you worked for it and deserve one. Go take it if you haven't already.

As for cancers, I wish you no bad luck. You have had your good moments.
.

elvis, good to see you
I have no idea why you would think I am upset in anyway with you.

Did I do something?
I am not now or ever been upset at you my friend.
In fact I was glad to see your screen name.

Patricia, we got it
This is the statement that did not fit

"It is unfathomable to me to believe that Caucasians were so hateful towards their fellow man, in America."

Caucasians?

Pretty broad stroke for what happened in one city isn't it?

Race relations seem to be bad enough without offending all Caucasians as being hateful.
Plenty of hate among all races,including blacks.

Who have the worst racists in the country outside of some like la raza.

You wanna do a study on black riots?
Black crime and say all blacks are criminals?
I mean just to equal it all out, seems fair if what you said is fair.


whew... I FEEL BETTER talent scout
NOW THAT WE ARE TALKING! I KEPT TRYING TO GET YOUR ATTENTION...AFTER A LAY-OFF FOR ABOUT A
MONTH LAY OFF(HEALTH). I WAS SAYING ALL THESE NICE THINGS ABOUT YOU..AND YOU NEVER EVEN CALLED
ME A CONFUSED MORMON HAHAHAHA! SO ,I THOUGHT, GEE HE MUST BE REALLY TICKED OFF AT ME...I wonder why???????? IS IT MY UNDER ARM DEODORANT?
IS IT MY POMPADOR HAIR DO? I HAVE LOST MY VOICE?
Well,we seem to be back to talking...now I can sleep better...ha ha ha. When you told that person the mental ward was filled w/their ..
relatives...I roared!
elvis

This happened...
A hundred years ago. I'm half black, half white, and guess what, i don't give a flying crap what happened to black people a hundred years ago. It's 2008. I've face ALOT more racism than most black people, 80% of it from black people who claim I "act white, Uncle Tom" or put down on me because I have a white girlfriend and vote conservative.

Am I denying some whites are racists? Of course not. I have a grand Uncle who, on the day MLK was assasanated, said to my grandfather that "I only wish I could have killed that ******." So yeah, I have white racists in my own family. But, I also have black racists in my family.

Fact is, all races are equally racist for the most part. However, I have experienced most racism against me by blacks, who are outraged that I consider myself biracial instead of black. I will not turn my back on my white mother, and the white grandparents who raised me, like Obama did.

200,000 white boys died freeing slaves.
No one ever gives them a monument and I suppose that fact is omitted in the history books so blacks never think of that. The majority of the US was on their side, but they have to hear this whining and gimmie over and over. Hey you don't hear the Native Americans whining. It is only lately they got some benefit out of reservation living. White people have been slaves for eons. How about those Egyptians? Notice how none want to go back? Just keep on whining and wonder why it is the way it is.
Don Jones

integrated US Army barracks

In the mid-1940s, I was a member of what was said to be the first integrated US Army barracks in Fort Benning, GA. I would say the Blacks were the ones who were most concerned with how it would work, the whites didn’t seem to care much.

It soon became obvious that the black “lingo” just naturally contained many slurs to the whites, and I don’t remember a slur by a white man in those first few days.

A couple of us called a meeting of the whole group, to discuss the matter. My point was that no one, of either race, should pay any attention to any comment made by either side of the color barrier.

Everyone agreed, and from that day on, language was no longer a problem. Sure there were things said that should not have been said, but since no one paid any attention to them, it didn’t matter.

What did matter was that within a few weeks the so-called slurs almost disappeared completely, because as some of us had expected, if we didn’t pay any attention, and no one made a big deal of what was said, those slurs would almost completely disappear from the conversation.

Several Black soldiers said that for the first time in their life, all those life-long comments they had used, just automatically disappeared.


Ortadragoon: Kudos Bro!
You are a courageous man! Thank you!

jim: You are living proof...
that racial differences are kept alive by POLITICIANS in order to divide and conquer WE THE PEOPLE.

And the reason we are all caught up in this never-ending racial conversation is because Obama and the left want us to talk about his race rather than his SOCIALIST policies!

Ranger29: YOUR
comment to JIM was really mean-spirited...

are you sure you're not one of those sensitive LIBERALS that I keep hearing about in the MSM?

B.O.
It is kind of depressing that so many have missed the point of Mr Will's column.

B.O. [I know BO when I smell BO] comments, when intellectually overwhelmed by a 7 year old's question, "America is NO LONGER...blah, blah, yada, yada."

George Will is saying--"YOU IDIOT--America isn't perfect, but it is so much better than it used to be that only a simplistic, self-obsessed, childish, Liberal [yeah I know that was all too much repetition]cannot see it.

But, being a FORMER, extreme liberal I know what they think, that is why they see America as needing to become "European," Gay, tolerant, and Socialist. To the devil with the rest of the world and what they think.

As I said on another thread, I have recently begun to pray for God to give Obama, motormouth. Keep talking moron, let the people know what an ignorant, elitist, "world citizen " you really are. It is working, he is too stupid and self-obsessed to know when to shut up. And "you" folks thinks he is a "speaker."

Recovering Liberal

Race Relations
The Democrats have used racial strife to buy votes for many years.It works,too. They keep shoving money at blacks and they just keep voting for them. Why not?

When Republicans try to say the money is destroying black families we are said to be racists. Many blacks believe it,too.

I did not get the gist of Will's comlumn. If he is trying to make me feel guilty for what some mob did 200 years ago,it did not work.

For every one riot whites have ever caused,there are dozens more caused by blacks.
There are many blacks ready and waiting for a reason to hit the streets.

In Augusta,Ga several years, a riot and burning was started downtown. It got stopped before any major damage was done.

The reason for the riot? They wanted the Ga.flag taken down from the Municipal Bldg. Guess what? they got their way.

In SC.blacks are still holding the state hostage to keep conventions from coming to SC. This has gone on for several years.

The reason? They wanted a flag taken down from State Bldg.It was taken down .Still,they demanded it be removed from the grounds,altogether.It is still flying and they have no conventions coming to SC.

It is time for everyone to act like Americans,instead of factions.

Harold: I agree with
your take on Will's column, BUT he left it way too open to interpretation AND with a race for POTUS that may turn out to be close conservatives do not need another member of the MSM - which WILL is - to assist Obama into the OVAL OFFICE.

He has enough help as it is...

Will could have made his point more focused - he supposedly is a Pulitzer Prize Winner after all.

A whispering wheezing at the end

Obama’s sweeping oratory in the primaries of “what began as a whisper in Springfield” reminded me of the ending of a fragile life----the wheezing of an infant’s lungs trying to be born and struggle against the attending physician destroying his brain at the back of his head in a partial-birth abortion as he’s pulled feet first out of his mommy.

Obama’s record on partial-birth abortion is well recorded by Chicagoland nurse Jill Stanek who witnessed infanticide firsthand, and who dealt with Obama’s subterfuge firsthand.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=51 121

My Man Jones
Actually, it's more like 360,000 and they have lots of monuments: visitingdc.com/capitol/general-ulysses-s-grant.htm
newyorkcitystatues.com/grand-army-plaza/

and Native Americans do quite a bit of whining: aimovement.org/

To Kill a Mockingbird
I was born in the south near the end of the Jim Crow era. I vaguely remember segregated water fountains and segregated schools and integration by choice. I walk the streets today and see some mixed church pews and many mixed race couples. Both of whic would have been an anathema 60 years ago and one of which would have gotten one person beaten and the other killed. On the other hand I see a lot of folks who don't see progress and can't seem to recognize the progress we have made nor more importantly how to benefit from it.

as a black dude
I have to say, I've got to look pretty hard to find racism. Racism today is very subtle...and is not a "water-tight" argument- one should not build a case on flimsy evidence (see Jesse Jackson).
This is what I see vividly:
ANGRY people.
This has no color. Americans seem to be peeved at EVERYTHING!
George Will's column today has a wonderful tone!
Most people will miss it.
Tone should be your meter in which you see and judge human beings. Any argument citing racism as the main culprit uses a very lazy approach to get to solutions! Black conservatives lead the way on this---clearly! Why are black consevatives rarely asked a question about race?
We rarely think that race is the real issue!

Sooner Or Later
I agree totally with George Carlin. All human groups and organizations are inherently dangerous. We are primitive and tribalistic. The veneer of civilization is extremely thin and unreliable.

Also agree with George that individually you meet some wonderful people during the brief interludes they are out of groupthink mode.

reply to My Man Jones
I love the way you guys get to make up everything in your posts. Across this country, in many towns, there are Civil War monuments with lists of the dead on them. I grew up in a town in Michigan that had one, and I live in a town in Massachusetts that has one. So learn something before you put your mouth in gear.

As for history books, yes, the familiar story of the Civil War is still told to our school kids. Actually, many conservatives don't like that story, and real conservative fans of the Old South will tell you that the Civil War had nothing to do with slavery.

As for Naative Americans, where have you been for the past 30 years or so? There are are all sorts of groups that tell the story of the near extermination of Native Americans and the cruel policies of the US government in settling them on reservations, etc.

As for slavery, every society has had it, regardless of race, religion, or much of anything else. People do this to each other, period. And of course slavery still exists today, in many parts of the world. Have you ever heard of the whole issue of human trafficking? Probably not.

Scary
What is really scary is that so many people posting comments here are so hyper-sensitive that they have proven themselves incapable of understanding the essence of George Will's balanced, reasonable, and, entirely conservative, essay.
Does the point really have to be explained?

a distraction by Will
Hey George Will, tell us how you feel about the recolonization of Palestine in the 1930s and 1940s by european Jews. Try to explain the justification for Zionist squatters stealing Palestinian land without refering to the myth of the holocaust !
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