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Thursday, June 18, 2009
Debra J. Saunders :: Townhall.com Columnist
How To Become a Civil Libertarian
by Debra J. Saunders
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There are no legal grounds for prosecuting Bush administration lawyers who supported the use of enhanced interrogation techniques to thwart planned terrorist attacks, so civil libertarians have the tort system to try to ruin Bush lawyers.

They may succeed.

Last week, U.S. District Judge Jeffrey White of San Francisco backed a complaint filed by convicted terrorist Jose Padilla and his mother against former White House Office of Legal Counsel John Yoo for writing memos that allegedly led to Padilla's illegal imprisonment and treatment during the three-plus years that Padilla was jailed as an enemy combatant.

You are part of the lawsuit, too.

A Department of Justice lawyer is representing Yoo. Should Padilla prevail, the federal government could end up paying the damages -- the suit asks for a mere $1 now, but that could change -- and worse, legal fees. If Padilla loses, then it's not as if his lifestyle in federal prison -- where he is serving a 17-year sentence -- will change.

But there's another price. This sort of lawsuit could have a chilling effect on government lawyers. And not just with Republican administrations. The United States is at war in Iraq and Afghanistan. If Padilla can ruin Yoo, then what is to keep future detainees from going after Obama lawyers?

It won't take Obama lawyers long to realize that the safest thing for them to advise the administration would be to not change anything.

Harvard law professor Detlev Vagts -- a harsh critic of the Yoo memos -- told me that lawyers do not enjoy unfettered immunity, but: "There are problems about whether you can say that Yoo's memo had any causative connection with the way Padilla was treated."

While Judge White wrote that, at this stage of litigation, the court must accept Padilla's allegations of mistreatment -- being detained illegally, confined in painful stress positions, and threatened with death -- "as true." But none of the above has been proved in a court of law.

John Eastman, law school dean at Chapman University in Orange County, where Yoo has taught for the past year, is appalled. If Padilla wins, he fears that "everybody in prison can sue the lawyers who gave advice to the sheriff for making the arrest."

Most important, Eastman said, "The notion that someone is going to be held civilly liable for giving legal advice that other people didn't like is preposterous." Continued...

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Padilla is a civil libertarian?
Yes, unfortunately. Where our government went wrong here, is not treating Padilla, a US citizen, as a criminal, and instead as an "enemy combatant" like he was caputred on a battlefield. Our goverment also took the wrong path in attacking terrorism. Instead of starting two wars (Afganistan and Iraq) it should have pursued and killed or prosecuted then killed, the people supporting the 9-11 and other terrorist attacks. We aren't fighting countries here, we're fighting terrorists who do not weat military uniforms. As such, they can be treated as spies and killed, and I see no reason we can't torture them, after they are convicted in a military court, before we kill them if we have good reason to believe that it will save live.

If our government had done this, rather than satisfy the neo-con desire to go to war (and increase the value of their stock/ownership in defense companies) we wouldn't have this problem. As it is now, most of the Gitmo detainees (90% who were not captured by US soldiers but instead were handed to us by mostly Afgan militias - for reasons known to the militias but not necessarily by us) have been released for lack of evidence. War increases the power of the state, not necessarily freedom of its citizens.

Answer for RW
Q: "Why do so many conservatives like her make the other side's case for them?"

A: She is not a conservative. She is a Republican, and if you are a Republican you defend a Republican Administration's counselors, right or wrong.

Remember, big government is okay when Republicans are in power.
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