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‘Consensus Is Not Leadership’: Pence and Haley Butt Heads Over Abortion

During the first GOP 2024 presidential debate on Wednesday, former Vice President Mike Pence and former South Carolina governor and Ambassador to the United Nations Nikki Haley got into a tense exchange on the issue of abortion.

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In the debate, some of the boldly pro-life candidates were asked about their stances on abortion and if they would support a federal ban on abortion.

On Wednesday, as Townhall covered, the South Carolina Supreme Court ruled that the state’s six-week “heartbeat” legislation is constitutional. When asked about her stance on abortion, Haley argued that she is “unapologetically pro-life” but that Republicans need to be “realistic” and “honest with the American people.” 

“It will take 60 Senate votes, it will take a majority of the House,” she said, noting that there has not been that many pro-life elected officials in years. She then called for “consensus” on the issue, specifically, banning third-trimester abortions.

“Can't we all agree that we should ban late-term abortions?" she stated. "Can't we all agree that we should encourage adoptions? Can't we all agree that doctors and nurses who don't believe in abortion shouldn't have to perform them? Can't we all agree that contraception should be available? And, can't we all agree that we are not going to put a woman in jail or give her the death penalty if she gets an abortion?”

In response, Pence said that “consensus is not leadership” on the issue of abortion.

"To be honest with you, Nikki, you're my friend, but consensus is the opposite of leadership," Pence said. "They didn't just send it to the states only. It's not a states-only issue, it's a moral issue."

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“I promise you, as president of the United States, the American people will have a champion for life in the Oval Office. Can’t we have a minimum standard in every state in the nation that says when a baby is capable of feeling pain, an abortion be allowed?” he said. “It’s going to take unapologetic leadership.”

Haley pressed that Republicans do not have the votes to pass a strict federal abortion ban.

Lila Rose, the president of Live Action, claimed that Haley’s stance is “backwards and out of touch.”


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