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Cato Institute scholars break down last night's speech.
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D G Wrote:
Jan 29, 2010 12:10 AM
Isn't this why we have leaders in Washington?? To solve problems ???
Guess what. BO is not even trying to solve H&HS. He did not mention it in his speech. In fairness, one of the HC proposals said tu cut Medicare by $500 billion. Problem with that one is it was just an across the board cut with no changes to Medicare coverage.
Clearly, some hard choices will need to be made.
I believe retirement ages will need to be increased for medicare and for Social Security.
People are living longer now (Thanks to health care provided by the provate sector and not government.)
How much is longer life worth to the people? If you could live ten years longer, would you be willing to work for ten more years...
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NOTW Wrote:
Jan 28, 2010 7:37 PM
"I doubt that you can suggest a workable solution."
Why don't you give it a try. Then we can all discuss it.
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lilly18 Wrote:
Jan 28, 2010 7:32 PM
So, what is your suggestion? Stop giving Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid? Just like that?
Last summer you saw what happened when poorly-educated seniors thought their Medicare was going to be taken away ("Get your government hands off my Medicare!"). Do you seriously think that even the conservative president of your dreams could do that, dumping millions of retired people into penury? (PS Those who had serious investments lost 30% two years ago---not on Obama's watch. They also aren't making anything on neighborhood CDs and Money Market, so you can skip the part about not depending on Social Security---private investments, private annuities all got hit very badly. And in case you're going to say "keep working", many are...
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hachie1 Wrote:
Jan 28, 2010 5:23 PM
Great anecdote regarding potus. Google 'post turtle'. Priceless...
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socalcon Wrote:
Jan 28, 2010 5:19 PM
did the original poster (to which Lilly referred) really mean circumcise? rather than her speculation?
I know is not safe interpreting what posters intend with their comments...otherwise, I would suspect all of Lilly's posts really mean, "Look at me, hear I am, Listen to me!!" ?
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Retired Lady Wrote:
Jan 28, 2010 5:00 PM
too much. I know this will be difficult for you as you are an ardent devotee of the narcissist-in-chief; but do try! 70 minutes of me, myself, and I what leadership skills! What a grasp this fool has of the American majority now!
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Mike1254 Wrote:
Jan 28, 2010 4:56 PM
Please ignore Lilly, like a mosquito bite if you ignore it eventually it goes away....
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mistermilo Wrote:
Jan 28, 2010 4:35 PM
Folks, you must forgive Lilly's difficulty with understanding. The operation was not a complete success, therefore she goes off half-cocked most of the time.
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Dan1377 Wrote:
Jan 28, 2010 3:08 PM
Why is it that Obama didn't come out and say the state of the union just sucks? Unemployment is at record levels and has been all but ignored.
Health care was dead as soon as it started (when the republicans were frozen out). The, behind closed doors and wait until I'm out of office to implement it, also added to the suspicion and demise. Now he lectures everyone including the supreme court. He fancies himself as a constitutional scholar. As far as I know he never litigated a single case, never clerked for the supreme court and never argued a case before the court. This gives him the right to lecture the smartest, most experienced, lawyers and judges in the world.
He demands a jobs bill but won't won't even outline what he...
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D G Wrote:
Jan 28, 2010 2:08 PM
BO said the debt increased because of wars, tax cuts, and prescription drugs. That is not the whole truth. He ignores Health and Human Services.
H&HS spent $5.7 Trillion in the past 10 years.
The Debt increased by $6.3 Trillion in same 10 years.
Therefore, 90% of debt increase was H&HS.
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BO has said many times during his campaign and after being President .... "The Bush tax cuts were ONLY for the rich." ..
Last night, he said he would retain the tax cuts for the middle class.
Therefore, the Bush tax cuts were for the middle class as well as the high income people.
He has been dishonest about the Bush tax cuts....
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SJA Wrote:
Jan 28, 2010 1:34 PM
What the hell is your post about. First of all I have no problems with the rules and regulations of my co-op, nor do I have a concern about my monthly maintenance payments. If you actually took time to read and engage your brain you would have understood that my point was I owned a single family home for years. During those years I paid to maintain my home out of my own pocket as it should be. It was my investment and it was up to me to ensure that my windows were caulked and my heat and air system was efficient. It was not the obligation of the other taxpayers to maintain my property just like it was not their right to share in the profits I made because I maintained that home. Now idiots like you think that my tax dollars should...
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Bea44 Wrote:
Jan 28, 2010 1:32 PM
WOW! I accessed and read both the letter and the KITV interivew, and again, WOW! This great patriot and gentleman expressed beautifully, and rather fittingly, the crux of the Obamas' behaviors vs. their "we are entitled" attitudes.
Thank you Seadog, and a special "Thank You" to Chief Estes. He may have chewed a$$, but he did it in a gentlemanly manner.
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LouiseD Wrote:
Jan 28, 2010 1:26 PM
Here you go.
http://atr.org/state-union-myth-factbr-obamas-new-a4456
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NOTW Wrote:
Jan 28, 2010 1:16 PM
Forgot you also asked about the FEMA vs DHS issue. Here is legislation from last year calling for that;
"(d) Preference for Designation of Closed Military Installations- Wherever possible, the Secretary of Homeland Security, in consultation with the Secretary of Defense, shall designate a closed military installation as a site for a national emergency center. If the Secretaries of Homeland Security and Defense jointly determine that there is not a sufficient number of closed military installations that meet the requirements of subsections (b) and (c), the Secretaries shall jointly designate portions of existing military installations other than closed military installations as national emergency centers."
Read it from the...
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Sunny49 Wrote:
Jan 28, 2010 1:10 PM
Townhall Staff:
Is there a column of the Fact Checks to read anywhere? I'd rather do that than listen to the video.
Thank you.
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D G Wrote:
Jan 28, 2010 1:09 PM
Who needs scholars? The lies are quite obvious to anyone.
The efforts by the scholars will be appreciated, but we already can not believe all the false statements.
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NOTW Wrote:
Jan 28, 2010 1:09 PM
Regarding
"So where do you get these lies? Do you make them up? Or just bounce them off each other? "
This is BHOs campaign promise telling us he wanted to do this (weren't you paying attention back then?);
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tt2yGzHfy7s
This is the EO issued back in December
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/executive-order- amending-executive-order-12425
This is the DoD Directive describing new duties of a civilian force;
http://www.dtic.mil/whs/directives/corres/pdf/140410p.pdf
This is Couragous Republicans in Congress trying to fight...
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UncleB Wrote:
Jan 28, 2010 12:52 PM
pay no attention to the one called "lilly"
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lilly18 Wrote:
Jan 28, 2010 12:44 PM
Yes, if you signed paper becoming owner of an apartment in a co-op or condominium, then you agreed to live by the rules of that co-op or condominium. If your Board of Directors increases your monthly maintenance assessment, they get to do that and all you get to do is pay the increased amount. If they make a rule that you can't have a cat, then you can't have a cat. If you want to play your tuba at 4 AM, you can't. If you want to paint your front door polka-dot, you can't. This is the way condos and co-ops and covenanted communities work, for the MUTUAL convenience of all. You think this is unfair? (You probably think it's Communist.) Then go back to your trailer in the Arizona desert and be a rugged individualist frightening the law...
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Exeye Wrote:
Jan 28, 2010 12:40 PM
I don't recall any tax cuts. Or does not raising your taxes count?
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lilly18 Wrote:
Jan 28, 2010 12:34 PM
So, Obama is bringing ACORN people into the White House, and they are all illegal aliens, to write our laws, in secret, behind closed doors, and ACORN is going to "unionize the WORLD".
Just yesterday on TH I read that Obama is bringing UN troops into the United States to subdue his enemies; he will declare martial law.
And previously I have read on TH that he is secretly training an army of Black Militant Thugs to go into every white home and forcibly circumcise (I expect the poster meant castrate) all white men. Also that FEMA is building concentration camps where Obama will incarcerate his enemies. And that he is having kindergarten children indoctrinated into homosexuality.
I also read that taxes have been...
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UncleB Wrote:
Jan 28, 2010 12:33 PM
Douglas,
Just FYI...
It is the Service Employees International Union.
Big name for a terrorist organization. Led by Andy Stern the most frequent visitor to the white house. Things that make you say Hmmm...
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judy1488 Wrote:
Jan 28, 2010 12:30 PM
Obama, took the time to chastise the Justices last night. Was Obama trying to intimdated the Supreme Court?
Franklin Roosevelt, did the same thing and he began to replace the old justices! with justices that would rubber stamp his policies.
If Obama can pull this off, it will prolonge the economic recovery.
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douglas228 Wrote:
Jan 28, 2010 12:14 PM
attacking the supreme court justices, and LYING to do it.I wonder, since his buddies in sicu or what ever the name of acorns partner in crime is, Has said they have aliens, and even ILLEGAL aliens in their membership, and the head of the union, is trying to unionize the WORLD, will Obama break ties and stop allowing them to not only visit the whitehouse, but actually help write laws and decide policy, I doubt it, what OBAMA wants is control; with no one to speak out, he sounds more like Chavaz or Hitler, OR their hero MAO, then an amreican president, I say its time to consider impeachment, I have thoughts on grounds to do it .
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Seadog Wrote:
Jan 28, 2010 11:53 AM
Remainder of article posted on KITV.COM.
The link to CPO Estes' letter is contained in the KITV.COM article. It was a lengthy letter.
"Estes said he has received about 1,000 calls about the letter, overwhelmingly supportive.
"Most of them agree. Most of them say, 'Thank you for writing the letter. It's right on the money,'" the World War II veteran said.
Estes said he was unaware of the controversy he caused on the Internet.
"I've never looked at anything on the Internet. I don't follow this. I didn't write this to get publicity," Estes said.
The U.S. Navy gives a BMC Harold Estes Leadership Award to a chief petty officer who has demonstrated superior leadership while assigned to a Pearl...
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