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Tuesday, September 23, 2008
William Wilson :: Townhall.com Columnist
Rewriting History: Lies that Hurt Us All
by William Wilson
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As Congress and the Administration work to prevent the crisis in the financial sector from spilling over into the larger economy, the vultures are swarming. In an Associated Press article yesterday, the following quote is made by Barney Frank, ultra-liberal Democrat of Massachusetts:

“The private sector got us into this mess…The government has to get us out of it. We do want to do it carefully.”

This is obscene. This “mess”, as Congressman Frank so eloquently put it, is the fault of government pure and simple. And, it is the personal fault of Barney Frank. For him to now hide his near-criminal behavior by pointing a finger at the entire private sector is the height of arrogance.

Consider the facts.

Under rules implemented by the Clinton Administration in 1995, banks and mortgage companies were required to give loans to people who could not afford them. This scheme was welfare pure and simple—hand over money to people everyone knew would not be able to pay it back. The banks and mortgage companies did as required. Otherwise they would face stiff penalties and possibly lose their license to operate. So, they gave out the money to put people in homes they could not afford.

But the banks had to get the money from somewhere. They got it from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the two failed quasi-government organizations. Fannie and Freddie urged, encouraged and bullied banks to give out more and more high-risk loans. They then bought these bogus mortgages and sold them to investors, again with the implied backing of the U.S. Government.

So, why wouldn’t an investment firm not buy these securities? After all, they were marketed as having the backing of the U.S. taxpayers.

The Wall Street Journal detailed Barney Frank’s sorted history of defending the scammers:

• In 2000, then-Rep. Richard Baker proposed a bill to reform Fannie and Freddie's oversight. Mr. Frank dismissed the idea, saying concerns about the two were "overblown" and that there was "no federal liability there whatsoever."

• Two years later, Mr. Frank was at it again. "I do not regard Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac as problems," he said in response to another reform push. And then: "I regard them as great assets."

• Again in June 2003, the favorite of the Beltway press corps assured the public that "there is no federal guarantee" of Fan and Fred obligations.

• A month later, Freddie Mac's multibillion-dollar accounting scandal broke into the open. But Mr. Frank was sanguine. "I do not think we are facing any kind of a crisis," he said at the time.

Three months later he repeated the claim that Fannie and Freddie posed no "threat to the Treasury." Even suggesting that heresy, he added, could become "a self-fulfilling prophecy."

• In April 2004, Fannie announced a multibillion-dollar financial "misstatement" of its own. Mr. Frank was back for the defense. Fannie and Freddie posed no risk to taxpayers, he said, adding that "I think Wall Street will get over it" if the two collapsed.

Pretty clear. It was not the “private sector” failing as Congressman Frank declared. It was government that failed. Specifically, it was people like Barney Frank that failed the American people. Moreover, he committed these acts for a pure ideological reason—to advance his warped left-wing vision.

But it goes deeper still. By attacking the entire “private sector”, Frank is declaring his opposition to small business and to tens of millions of people who labor for the betterment of their families by saving and investing.

The central issue of the proposed bailout proposed by the Bush Administration—the issue that prompted Barney Frank’s childish and insulting remark—is how to get billions of dollars securities based on the mortgages held by people who cannot afford them out of the system. You can argue over whether to do it or how to do it—but that is the aim of the proposal.

And what does Comrade Frank now insist is a deal-breaker? More money has to be made available to keep these people in the homes they couldn’t afford in the first place! Oh, and of course, many on his side are demanding that state and local governments who have been spending at double-digit increases every year for a decade be bailed out as well. No, they shouldn’t have to cut the feather-bedding or cut back on the silly-expensive union contracts. Barney Frank wants the American taxpayers to bail them out too.

Taking the global view, here is what happened and this is where we are. Knowing the American people were sick and tired of the welfare handouts, the liberals devised a backdoor way to funnel billions of dollars to their welfare clients. It was based on a Ponzi scheme that finally went broke. A lot of people made money along the way but the central rationale was always to transfer hundreds of billions of dollars in welfare to low income citizens.

And now that the game is exposed, the first thing these thieves do is blame the “private sector.” They are using the destruction they have caused to justify giving them more power to do even more damage.

That is what is at stake. Will we hand our country over to a group of devious, venal socialists who hate private enterprise, individual responsibility and personal freedom? Or, will we step back from the abyss, clean up the mess and set our house in order?

If he has done nothing else, Barney Frank has at least clarified the issues and made the choice clear for all willing to observe the facts. As valuable a service as this is, it should not be enough to keep him out of a well-deserved jail cell.

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backdoor welfare
AMEN, AMEN & AMEN!

I bought a house I could afford.
I have never had a single late payment.
I have worked full time for 32 years.
I have paid taxes for all those years.
I have paid property (school) taxes since purchasing my first home, even though I have never had children, and wouldn't put them in a government school if I did have children.
WHY SHOULD I PAY THE HOUSE NOTE (THROUGH THIS BIG GOVT BAIL OUT) FOR LOW LIFES WHO DON'T WORK, DON'T PAY THEIR BILLS, AND DON'T GIVE A CRAP. WHY DO THESE PEOPLE GET REWARDED FOR IRRESPONSIBLE BEHAVIOR WHILE I KEEP WORKING LIKE A DOG DAY AFTER DAY, WEEK AFTER WEEK, YEAR AFTER YEAR, JUST TO LIVE A CLEAN HONEST LIFE !! I'M SO SICK OF IT I COULD SCREAM!!

'Sorted' or 'sordid' history?
Frank should have been in prison years ago for pimping from his DC apartment. Like Clinton & most Democrats, he is incapable of NOT resorting to lies & deceit to cover his tracks.

Employers have been required by federal law for decades to give jobs to people who do not qualify & who do not deserve them. So why not give them houses, cars, educations, you-name-it? Especially since they can vote -- and riot.

There is no solution short of revolution or re-writing the Constitution -- neither of which will happen. Americans are cowards when it comes to upsetting the apple cart, too worried they may lose a vacation day in the process. So bend over America, you're getting exactly what you deserve! Barney Frank is expert at it, literally & figuratively.

lori
You need to let us know how you really feel :)

We too are doing all we can to keep a house we qualified to buy. It's not going to help to be part of paying off a bunch of gift homes.

I can only hope the lies will not go unnoticed.

Pray for America.

THANK GOD FOR BIG BONUSES

The Smartest Guys In The Room got over $37 BILLION just in bonuses, last December.

How much was your bonus?

Here's a link for how the seeds of disaster were started in 1999:

"An agreement between the Clinton administration and congressional Republicans, reached during all-night negotiations which concluded in the early hours of October 22, 1999 sets the stage for passage of the most sweeping banking deregulation bill in American history, lifting virtually all restraints on the operation of the giant monopolies which dominate the financial system."

http://www.wsws.org/articles/1999/nov1999/bank-n01.shtml


Where it started, daniel
It started long before that with the CRA, Community Redevelopment Act, in the Carter years. HUD was pressuring all these banks to make loans in shakey areas. They complained about the idea of redlining and had a quota where almost 50% of their loans had to be in the risky areas. Why should we be surprised that a large number of these loans would fail. According to Chuck Dodd and Barney Frank folks who should never have had a loan should be allowed to stay in the homes that they can not affford to pay for. Nuts to that.

Amen Lori
I am in the same boat. I have worked all of my life and raised 3 daughters myself. I scrimped and saved every penny for down payment and closing costs so I could provide my children with something better.

I am sickened by this mess that congress has made for us. I do not believe for one minute that we the taxpayer should bail out Freddie and Fannie. Make no mistake, this is the fault of our own government and NOT the private sector.

Barney Frank is an idiot and I am left to wonder how many dollars from these two mortgage giants went into his pocket.


Lets be absolutely clear
It was socialist welfare that people in the Clinton administration(Bill and Hillary) were pushing and that people like leftwinger Barney Frank were protecting. And still protectin until the levy finally broke. And make no mistake about it they are going to try and pass the buck to the tax payers and the blame to the Republican party. They want tax payers to fund those that refuse to do things the right way anyway, like hard work and saving, they just had to do it through a back door scheme.

Lets hope President Bush and the other conservatives in Congress take Newt Gingrichs idea of eliminating the Cap Gains tax for a few years to restore some actual capitol to the market and not keep compounding the Clinton "cook the books looks good on paper" scemes of the nineties.

I'm also interested in hearing about old Red Nancy Pelosi's involvement in the socialist welfare plan of giving loans to people who couldn't afford them. And then expecting tax payers to shell out in a socialist way to make good on them.

We can believe that there will be more of this on the way with a Barack NObama presidency and Pelosi Congress. Socialism is on the way with those two only they won't try to hide it so much. Higher taxes, income, cap gains, small business, every way imaginable. Look out.

McCain/Palin 08 for the good of America.

OBAMA BAILOUT
We have already seen what Speaker Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader Reid are capable of. Obstruction! All they do is subpoena and investigate anyone who is a Republican.

I do not believe our country can withstand a Democrat President, Speaker, Senate Majority Leader, Democrat Congress, Senate and a liberal Supreme Court ruling our country for the next generation or longer.

This is the most important election in the history of our country. We have two wars, gasoline approaching $5.00 per gallon, the dollar spiraling south, the economy barely poking along, unemployment over 5%, illegal immigrants in the millions and thousands more pouring through our fenceless border everyday while the “do nothing” congress was on a five week vacation.

Now they are back with tax and spend, amnesty, surrender, more entitlements, more money to the UN, no drilling for oil anywhere forever (except 50 miles from shore), allowing Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid to grow

They are bailing out Fannie May and Fannie Mack with our taxpayer money, the insurance conglomerate, AIG, Banks, Mortgage & Loan companies and the CEO's are OK with their golden parachutes.

Barney Franks, Chairman of the House Financial Committee and Chris Dodd, Chairman of the Banking and Finance Committee forced them to make outrageous loans to unqualified people. Added to this fiasco are some Wall Street financiers who got greedy.

A Marxist Obama White House will transfer these burdens if he is elected: soaring interest rates; a bankrupt Social Security system; a bankrupt Medicare system; surging taxes on everything you purchase; trillions of dollars more in Federal debt to fund his vote getting socialism; colossal increase in oil, gas and heating fuel prices and a shrinking retirement account for you and your family in your twilight years.

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http://www.johnmccain.com/dreamsdestiny/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQhjaCgAS80
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0SuAGtMu8A& NR=1

No Bailout.
Bring charges against Barney Frank and everyone else involved now. The frugal middle-class, honest poor and honest wealthy should not be bailing out foolishness or criminals. This is not ethical.

William
You are a fool. What you are advocating is EXACTLY what Hoover advocated - we saw how that worked LMAO.

Look it is over this is exactly whatwas expected from Reaganomics. Go back to your caves and trade flint the grownups will fix it

.........
Excellent article. I hope McCain mentions Barney Frank by name during the debates in regards to the financial crisis. Then highlight ACORNs participation and that this was where obama started his marxist career as a race baiting agitator.

The democrat filth are shameless in their lies and deception. If they didn't have a leftist media to cover for them they would be a fringe party similar to the Socialist Party USA.

On the Right we have Conservatives. On the Left we have Republicans. Over in the fever swamps of the far, far left we find democrats.

lori
"Date: Sep 23, 2008 - 3:27 PM EST Subject: backdoor welfare
AMEN, AMEN & AMEN!
....WHY SHOULD I PAY THE HOUSE NOTE (THROUGH THIS BIG GOVT BAIL OUT) FOR LOW LIFES WHO DON'T WORK, DON'T PAY THEIR BILLS, AND DON'T GIVE A CRAP."

That is easy you supported the Bush regime who deliberately undercut rationale finance. In June 2001 Bush the torturer virtually demanded that companies issue weak loans. In the 2004 election Bush the torturer's and most Republican individuals' boast was that they had created the largest number of homeowners in US history. Now they try and run and hide. But make no mistake you helped make this happen

" WHY DO THESE PEOPLE GET REWARDED FOR IRRESPONSIBLE BEHAVIOR WHILE I KEEP WORKING LIKE A DOG DAY AFTER DAY, WEEK AFTER WEEK, YEAR AFTER YEAR, JUST TO LIVE A CLEAN HONEST LIFE !! I'M SO SICK OF IT I COULD SCREAM!! "

That again is easy you voted Republican and are reaping what you sowed. Remember the no bid contract? etc...

JamesMa
"Date: Sep 23, 2008 - 3:51 PM EST lori
You need to let us know how you really feel :)

We too are doing all we can to keep a house we qualified to buy. It's not going to help to be part of paying off a bunch of gift homes.

I can only hope the lies will not go unnoticed.

Pray for America. "

PRAY my considerable backside! Pick yourself up and fix the darn problem. God had nothing to do with this REPUBLICANS most certainly did

pb
"Date: Sep 23, 2008 - 3:48 PM EST 'Sorted' or 'sordid' history?
...There is no solution short of revolution or re-writing the Constitution -- neither of which will happen."

True because you conservatives who caused this are totally unable to stand up and do anything

I love how sissies like you throw blama and names LOL Geesh

A Government Crisis...
I think the editorial in the WSJ yesterday explained the roots of this crisis fairly well. For thirty years we have had a policy of giving loans to people who did not have the means to repay them for houses they could not afford—essentially Carter administration affirmative action for housing. Then we have a “quasi-governmental” entity packaging these bad loans and passing them along into the market. Fannie and Freddie had the implicit backing of the government, so where was the risk in buying their paper—it was like a government bond with a higher return. We then have this huge run-up in housing prices brought on by easy credit (from Greenspan) and a system of buyers and sellers in the market who were divorced from reality because Fannie and Freddie were going to insulate them from risk.

Certainly this was a government policy problem. But it is not the fault of Dr. Gramm’s deregulation. The current crisis started with the system that Democrats created over decades of feel-good-help-the-poor-(buy-votes) policy making. This is a creature of government sticking its big finger into free-market capitalism. Of course, everyone is going to believe the fairy tale: greedy Republicans caused this mess with their crazy free-market ideas.

Having said that, I think we have to do some type of bailout. It seems to me that the government already promised to do the bailout when it chartered (thanks again to FDR) Fannie and Freddie. I don’t think anyone wants to see the economy seize up, except for Obama et al who are doing a rain dance to bring on a depression so that they can finally shove the socialist dream do our throats…

Frank and Rangel (both tax cheats) and
Dodd (sweetheart mortgage recipient) all voted against restructuring Freddie and Fannie in 2005.

Obama, Clinton, and Kennedy, along with the usual suspects of Snowe, Chaffee, Hagel, yadda, all orated and voted against any changes. It might not have been too late then, as both financial orgs. had only azquired 8% of the bad mort. market. By the time they collapsed, the had taken on 20% of the market.

The whole idea of gov't backed financials goes back to the banking laws of 1933 when FDR started the New Deal. Since, we've added the Community Redevelopment Act, 1977, under Carter, that by law requires financials to solicit and carry 10% bad loans, and then the Clinton loosening of credit requirements in the 90s just added to the house of cards.

The Reps of 2000-2006 spent too much fed. money, but they didn't make screwy bank laws.

My tax mnoney should not go to FL or CA either where people bought McMansions and 5 or 6 houses while reporting one income.

But we need the bailout or anything anyone has in a bank or stock portfolio or retirement plan could vanish with the bad debts.

I saw the Chrysler bail out and NYC rescue and Savings and Loan nonsense and we had bad times and recovered from them all. We recovered from the Carter years of high (double digit) unemployment, high inflation, high interest, real recession, and worldwide humiliation when Iran took our embassy.

This, too, shall pass, but the gov't should get out of guaranteeing private mortgages, student loans, bad business decisions, and whiners of all stripes and conditions, as the only people who really pay for this sh*t is the Am. taxpayer, because the money doesn't grow on trees.

.........
Well said Renny and Walter.

What?
You've neglected to mention that Fannie and Freddie were the corps of last resort to buy up the prepackaged mortgage securities. Having not been the primary lenders, while they were partially to blame, they could not know how toxic the underlying fundamentals were, nor could Frank. You've also neglected to mention that more than 1/2 the bailout $ is going to financial institutions for debt unrelated to mortgages. Look at the Financial Times US today. So stop blaming the Democrats and poor people. It was, in fact, the rich bankers who ripped us off.

Hal Donahue
You're absolutely right, Republicans do have a part in this, but only in as much as they have joined with Democrats.

So now we're between a rock and a hard place, depending on a presidential candidate who has often been suckered into reaching across the aisle to join with Democrats in some prettily packaged insanity.

Living in a fallen world is usually a case of making the best of bad choices.

Keep drinking that kool-aid.

Mark: Subject: What?
Of course they could (and did)know. They set up the system of bundling and reporting specifically obscure the danger and maximize their political and financial gain. The fact that there were other ethically challenged players who leapt on the gravy train is neither surprising nor does it exonerate those who set up and exploited the system for their own political ends.

As I Post
I am watching on MSNBC Barney place blame on everyone except libs. Will anyone be suprised to know that the interviewer on MSNBC has challenged Barney on absolutely nothing?

Frank not referring to small businesses
If there was any merit to his argument, William Wilson would not have to exaggerate in order to convince people. But he does exaggerate, which makes me doubt the validity of his "facts." Why should he attribute scorn for "small businesses and tens of millions of people who labor for the betterment of their families by saving and investing" to Barney Frank? This whole thing is about Wall Street muckety-mucks and everyone knows it. It's not about my parents' silk-screen shop. If the rest of his case were solid, he would have no urge to do conflate high finance with small businesses.

Frank-en???
I realize that this will fall on deaf ears.

As long as we allow politicians to remain in power beyond a reasonable period, we will always have the problem of "protection of power." Most of those in positions of power in congress, both houses, have been there for decades. This provides the groundwork for corruption and malfeasance. It also allows idiots like Murtha and Peloosi to be replaced.

I do not understand how Frank could have been in congress for so long. The people of MA must be in a permanent fog. I lived there for several years and could never fathom how he gets elected.

We now have a situation where the only offices that are subject to term limits are the president and vice president.

The Supreme Court members are there for life and are, therefore, beyond any power of the people to remove them. True they can be impeached but that has never happened and it is unlikely to ever happen.

Congressional members must stand for election every 2 or 6 years. History shows that once in power it is extremely difficult to remove them due to the need for vast sums of money to support their candidacy.

Because of the restriction of two terms for president, the second term is always a process of diminishing power, also known as lame duck.

If the presidency can be restricted to two terms why do we allow the legislature and the court to to escape that restriction?

It is my humble opinion that a limit of 15 years for a justice, a limit of 12 years for the Senate and a limit 6 terms for the House is needed. Either that or allow the presidency to have no term limits as is the current case.

How is this a solution? It isn't, but it will make the playing field a little more fair. It will also lessen the power of position.

Just a thought...
If the bail out bill has no provision for bailing out the home owners (or flippers), what happens when they get tossed out on the street? They'll try to find apartments to rent. With lousy credit, they'll be lucky to find a dump to rent--and that assumes they'll have enough income to pay the rent in the first place. Given the fact that rent controls have greatly reduced the number of rentals in places such as New York City, LA, and San Francisco, again, these folks are going to find themselves SOL.

Been there, done that, in that we bought a house we could barely afford, and had it foreclosed on before we could get a short sale. We did manage to find an apartment at a reasonable rate. But that was five years ago.

To make myself clear, I agree with the idea that bad actions should have bad consequences, otherwise no one will ever learn the lessons of life. I just wonder what's going to happen to all those folks who can't pay for the homes they shouldn't have bought--and can't pay the rent on an apartment because either the rent is too high, or there aren't any apartments available due to rent controls?

It looks like a case of "Dam*ed if you do, dam*ed if you don't."

And I still can't help wondering if George Soros has any fingers in this pie, particularly as regards the timing.

Wow
This article should ber read out loud at the "hearings"

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122091796187012529.html?mod =googlenews_wsj

Barney should be in jail with Dodd.

H L Mencken was right
Democracy is a system in which the voters get to vote for what they want, and they deserve to get it, good and hard. All the idealistic naive voters, driven by good intentions and totally ignorant of unintended consequences got us here. They voted for pie-in-the-sky merchants. They keep characters like Teddy the Swimmer, Barney Frank, Chris Dodd in office getting rich on the public weal. These suckers eventually outnumbered sensible people. They have made our bed and those who stay must lie in it. I wish the oncoming young folks good luck. Mr. Garand, and a few million of my generation did our best to leave something good behind.

Make an example of the perps
I do not believe in incarcerating such people as Barney and Dodd. The enormous, egregious evil that liberals have done to millions of people should be punished much more severely than that in order to convince the political elite that they must clean up their act. Straighten up and fly right or be sent immediately to join Hitler, Mousellini, Tojo, Rousevelt, Mao, Pol Pot, Stalin, Kruschev and many others who have done great evil while in political office. They richly deserve it, and that is apparently the only language they understand. We must speak it and speak it soon or be damned as a nation of girly boy fools.

Hal comes in like a fly seeking dung.
He pretends that he is on a first-name basis with the column author, and offers nothing for rebuttal but the socialist maggot eggs of ad-hominem attacks and strident denial. Get the raid.

Volta
"Why should he attribute scorn for "small businesses and tens of millions of people who labor for the betterment of their families by saving and investing" to Barney Frank?"

If you were a member of the National Small Business Association, you would know why.

One out of every two people in the workforce work for or run a small business(SB).

SBs have created 93.5% of all new jobs in the past 15 years.

Since 1989, SBs have created 21.9 million new jobs, big business only 1.5.

If anybody wants to see more data and how much better McCain's tax policies would be than Obama's and the current financial policies of those Democrats in charge now, go to http://www.smc.org and look for or ask for their position paper, or contact the NSBA at http://www.nsba.biz. As a small business owner, I go with a group to lobby Harrisburg and Washington every year.

Only a commie
would try to make his point by referencing an article on the "World Socialist Web Site".

hahahahaha

Deregulation, deregulation, deregulation

when will it occur?

phoenix lady
The answer is the poor little would-be home owners will just HAVE to find a place to live that is within their means. I don't believe for a minute that these people will be homeless. Of course, unless your definition of homeless is that your place of residence has less than 2,500 square feet, you don't have 3 or 4 HD flat panel 42-inch tv's in your house, and 4 new cars in the driveway. You are right when you say people must pay for the consequences of their actions, otherwise, we honest hard-working folks will be bailing them out again, and again, and again.

lori:
Why should you pay? Because you voted Democrat, perhaps?

Much like Canada's DomePete bailout
but worse by order of magnitude.

(unfortunately, I actually lived through that bailout--and still remember how much Canuck taxpayers got shafted from it).

sedonaman
No, I have never in my life voted democrat !!(What on earth gave you that idea)?

Hal is such a pathetic liar.
FACT: John McCain sponsored a bill, supported by Bush, to reform Fannie and Freddie because both foresaw what Hal's buddies were doing to us back in 2005.

FACT: DEMOCRATS, primarily Frank in the house, Dodd and OBAMA in the Senate blocked that bill, why collecting MILLIONS of dollars in bribes from Fannie and Freddie.

FACT: DEMOCRATS -- PARTICULARLY Obama -- are SOLELY responsible for this.

Hal, you lies have been exposed. You are nothing but a fascist idiot trying to RUIN this country (and that is another FACT).

The real reason
Greed, pure and simple. The increase in home prices especially in hot markets like south Florida, southern Nevada, southern California greatly outpaced wages. Even when I lived NE of Atlanta which wasn't exactly a Las Vegas my house value went up by 50%--in some areas people were seeing 20, 30 40% runups in value in a single year.

But developers still wanted to develop and builders still wanted to build and banks still wanted to make loans. So they created all these strange new loan types which worked as long as the houses continued to go up in value. The low ARMS could be refi'ed 5 years later when the houses were now worth maybe 100% or 200% more than they were. But then the housing bubble burst, home values crashed in places like SW Florida and southern Nevada, people were upside down by 20 and 30%, they couldn't refi and they couldn't make the payments. Banks took houses they couldn't sell even at 30% below what the loans were for the house. The bundled loans as investments went bad--investment banks and even commercial banks took massive hits.

It wasn't "anti-redlining" that did this, it wasn't the government that did this. It was pure, unadulterated greed that did this.

Also, this isn't like 1929. It is like 1992--Japan. A housing bubble that eventually crashed, a stock market based on inflated real estate and a cascade of bank failures. Japan's GDP growth dropped to near zero and stayed there for over a decade. That is the danger the US is facing, not a total 1929 melt down.


Write like a grownup
Hal Donahue write like a growup. I am so weary of your ilk. You make sweeping statements without any backup. If you state something, you just assume you're right.

And then like a rude little kid, you always end with an insult.

Liberals who think they can influence us are so consistently arrogant, rude, and crude that I dislike them more and more every time I read one of their posts. They don't intimidate or influence me; they energize me.


The Democrats made this mess and don't have the courage to accept responsibility for their actions.

But Hal keep up the good work. We need people like you to energize the base.

Now that the FBI is
investigating Fannie and Freddie perhaps Dodd and O'Bambi will be arrested for bribary.

SERIOUS question for leftists:
Democrats think that the "solution" to people not paying their mortgage is to pay it for them.

In that case, give me just ONE good reason why I ought to pay MY mortgage if Barney Frank will simply pay my mortgage for me if I don't feel like paying it?

communism
Plain and simple.

These are communists. McCarthy wouldn't have to actually search if he were alive today. All he'd have to do is point to any member of Congress with a "D" next to their name and it'd be a good start.

Wilson is PARTIALLY correct
The CRA and Left-wing social engineering
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The Community Reinvestment Act of 1977, revised under the Clinton Administration in 1995, is a great example of left-wing social engineering through gov’t regulation. Anyone who understands it knows that it is the best argument for why the Left should never be allowed to run this country.

But the CRA debacle is only part of the story. After the dot-com bubble and 9-11 impacted our economy, the fed (under Alan Greenspan) aggressively lowered interest rates. This sparked a run on real estate that drove up home prices. In order to keep business coming in – and to meet the demands of the CRA – banks and mortgage lenders came up with more and more ‘creative’ ways to loan money, and the fed encouraged them. Wall Street got involved by buying up packages of these mortgage loans (they needed somewhere to invest their money since low interest rates made savings vehicles unattractive). This made more money available to lend, so more risky loans were made and the cycle continued.

So there’s plenty of blame to go around:
The Federal Reserve, for over-zealously lowering interest rates;
Bank regulators, for not taking action sooner;
Wall Street investment firm managers, for letting greed blind them to the risks they were taking;
Borrowers, for taking on irresponsible loans and not standing up to their obligations;

If there are going to be consequences (and there should be), then those involved should be the ones to suffer them. They should be fired, passed up for re-election, forced to give back bonuses and allowed to lose homes they can’t afford.

The Amrican Spectator has it
A great explanation on how a low percentage of defaulting loans can cause an investment bank to go under. Also, a good tie in to the CRA mess.

http://www.americanprowler.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=13931


Pay for Play
Perhaps we should insist that the Democrat backers of Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, Barack Obama and their cronies should pony up and pay for this debacle. I mean, fair's fair. They should pay for the Democrat play.

Vic-Original, #43
Thanks for the link. The article was excellent and extremely enlightening.

CW

Hal still Hal
I don't come around often but it is obvious that Hal is still just as blind as he ever was.

Leave the personalities out of it Hal... It really doesn't matter whether it was Bush, Clinton, or whoever. The problem is LIBERAL, SOCIALISTIC ideals. The problem is those who are willing to buy votes and power with taxpayer dollars... and in this case to punish the responsible to get the votes of the irresponsible.

Call them by any label... the problem is the same- "Progressive" ideology.

The point, What does congress do?
How many decades have some of our noble representatives sat on either a finance committee, finance subcommittee, banking committee or banking subcommittee? Yet now they are acting as though they are surprised by what is happening. This is non-sense.

WAKE UP! Congress sold us out. Many of these people have been in office during three presidents and they didn't see it coming?

More Blarney from Barney
I would urge everyone to send this article to 10 people and request that they send it to 10 more people.This truth will never see the light of day in the main stream media.

Personally I have watched speculation lending destroy my neighborhood, by knock down developers that have built McMansion, thus escalating the value , aka tax appraisal of modest surrounding homes owned by young families and retired seniors. Most of us now have tax appraisals/levies of well over $10,000.00 while the market price has dropped 25 to 40%.
getting your appraisal reduced is a full time labor intensive and difficult process,that requires taking time off of work.

By the way we live in the corrupt county of Nassau on Long Island, New York.

While the problem here is much larger then local housing issues, this particular situation is yet another prong that is placing burdens on honest hardworking homeowners that met their responsibilities monthly.

So while Barney and Friends helped their voting block thus securing votes they also facilitated greedy and unscrupulous developers and investors, Mr. Frank never mentions that in his diatribes!Would he please tell us how many of them are being bailed out.

Responsibility
All who contributed to the mortgage problem by enacting or signing laws should be held responsible and forced to pay; all who lied about the stability of the financial institutions should be held responsible and forced to pay.

I Predict
As mad as the American people are over the high gas prices and the Fannie/Freddie meltdown, I predict that in November they will elect over 90% of the careerists like Barney Frank, and put more Democrats in the House and Senate. And if Obama is indeed The One, you can kiss this country goodbye.

Whatever you do ----
DO NOT. I repeat DO NOT vote Independent or Third Party. After all, I/TP candidates don't win. Therefore, we don't vote for them, and guess what? They don't win!

However, DO ONCE AGAIN vote the lesser of two evils. DO NOT believe Einstein when he stated that it is insane to do the same thing over and over and then expect different results. DO VOTE the lesser of two evils and tell yourself that we will get the change we need. BELIEVE in throwing the bums out, but DO NOT vote to throw them out.

When you get tired of more of the same and you want to restore Constitutional self-government to this great nation, take a little time and visit my website, JOEOLIVAFORPRESIDENT.ORG. You will learn there how the DEM/GOP/MSM propaganda machines have been utilized by the elites to rob us of our inheritance.

If however, you like the way our home is being managed, then by all means skip the website. It will only break your heart. Thanks, Joe

Wow, Akagi, I'm almost agreeing!
Whoa, the world must be tilting off its axis!

You're right, for once. The early loosening of loans was, in my opinion, a good thing. It used to be just about impossible for working class people to get loans for decent houses. This was especially true for people who change jobs frequently, like construction workers. They were seen as risks not because they couldn't afford the payments but because they didn't stay in any one job two or more years, which used to be the standard to get a mortgage in many markets.

So, some of the loosening was good, because it meant people who could afford it but didn't meet all the qualifications could now get a loan and most of those people -- like my husband and myself -- still own our homes.

Then the housing market went nuts. The prices just went up and up. I understood it here in AK where the build-up in military meant a tight market, but in some places, it simply makes no sense. I don't think CA has a housing shortage -- it has an AFFORDABLE housing shortage, according to friends who live there.

Then there's the credit cards. What were people thinking racking up debt for toys they didn't need and then only paying minimums, then throwing what they couldn't afford on top of the mortgages, wiping out their equity?

Stupid, stupid, stupid! I thank God my brother advised us against it early on and we listened to him for the most part.

And, you're also right. We're not anywhere near a 1929-style crash, but most of the Lower 48 is going to feel some hard times, mostly of their own making, while this situation corrects itself. The economy is seeking balance. Gov't can help with that, but if you mess with it too much, it makes things worse, not better. Things will correct themselves now that people have run out of credit and have to buy things the old fashioned way, AFTER they've saved the money for it.

Frustrated
I for the life of me cannot understand how Obama even made it as far as he has. This is a joke! I am completely fed up with the media and their portrayal of this collapse. If the great people of this nation would open their eyes and ears and listen and study the facts and not pay attention to the very biased media, they would be able to figure this out. To hear Obama and the liberals put this on the shoulders of the "private sector"....com on. Obama has made out very nicely from these fallen companies and he KNOWS it!!!! I pray they all will reap what they have sewn!

O'Reilly and Frank
Bill O'Reilly said today, "Frank won't know what hit him". O'Reilly was referring to what he has in mind for Barney Frank if he doesn't straighten up and fly right on the bailout legislation in the works. O'Reilly statement was the most satisfying thing I've heard about the financial mess we're in. These MBA's and lawyers in Washington and New York deserve total humiliation for what they've allowed to happen.

Frustration from the Liberals in Congres
There is no question in my mind in choosing my President; I am basing my decision on actions not double talk. The Democratic contender who once again made the choice of self over Country? Barack Obama, whose political ambition trumps everything else, American, needs a leader and having a selfish, self-centered President is not the answer. We have had these individuals as Presidents before and we are still paying for their sins. Which is why I will never, not in this lifetime ever vote for Barack Obama. It’s Country First you idiot and not what’s in your best interest politically.
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