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Tuesday, May 26, 2009
Phyllis Schlafly :: Townhall.com Columnist
Harold Koh Is Too Dangerous for America
by Phyllis Schlafly
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Does Barack Obama really want to make Americans subject to foreign law and courts? That is the question senators should ask when they vote on his nomination of Harold Hongju Koh, former dean of the Yale Law School, to be the top lawyer at the State Department.

Koh is encumbered by a long paper trail that proves he is eager to use foreign and international law to interpret American law. He calls himself a transnationalist, which means wanting U.S. courts to "domesticate" foreign and international law -- i.e., integrate it into U.S. domestic law binding on U.S. citizens.

Koh wants to put the United States under a global legal system that would diminish our "distinctive rights culture," such as our broad speech and religion rights, due process and trial by jury. Koh complains that our First Amendment gives "protections for speech and religion ... far greater emphasis and judicial protection in America than in Europe or Asia."

Yes, our Constitution does give individuals more rights and freedom than any other country, and we Americans like those rights and freedoms. But Koh thinks we should bow to foreign rules and court decisions, and to United Nations treaties whether or not we have ratified them.

The State Department's chief lawyer is not just any lawyer. He becomes the voice of the United States on international legal issues, such as the negotiation and U.S. interpretation of treaties and U.N. pronouncements.

Importing treaties and foreign law into American law could impose lots of rulings that the American people don't want, such as approval of same-sex marriage, unlimited abortion, legalized prostitution and abolition of the death penalty. This would be a broadside assault on American sovereignty.

Foreign law is fundamentally different from American law. Whereas our Constitution sets forth limited governmental powers and recognizes broad individual rights against government (such as freedom of religion and speech), European constitutions proclaim entitlements to government services such as education, health care, maternity leave, housing and environmental protection.

We certainly don't want to import law from foreign countries that recognize polygamy, arranged marriages between cousins, so-called honor killings of women who reject such arrangements, cutting off hands as punishment for theft, stoning women to death as punishment for adultery and prohibiting the private ownership of guns.

As Judge Robert Bork has written, international law is really not law as Americans understand the term -- it is just international politics. Not passed by any legislature, international law is often written ex post facto and administered by foreign or U.N. bureaucrats pretending to be judges.

Unfortunately, Koh's views are not unique among left-wing lawyers or even among Supreme Court justices, and it's long past time for us to rise up and put an end to this un-American nonsense. The confirmation of Koh would give legal support to the Supreme Court justices who have already said they favor using foreign law.

Justice Stephen Breyer, who calls himself a "comparativist," suggested in a dissent in Knight v. Florida that it is "useful" to consider court decisions in India, Jamaica and Zimbabwe on allowable delays of execution. Zimbabwe may have much experience with executions, but we don't need its guidance about due process.

Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg has been making speeches advising lawyers that "your perspective on constitutional law should encompass the world. ... Our island or Lone Ranger mentality is beginning to change."

While still on the High Court, Sandra Day O'Connor told a Georgetown University audience that international law "is vital if judges are to faithfully discharge their duties. ... International law is a help in our search for a more peaceful world."

Even Justice Anthony Kennedy invoked foreign "authorities" when he couldn't find any language in the U.S. Constitution to justify overturning the Texas sodomy law in 2003. His decision cited non-American sources, including a committee advising the British Parliament, decisions of the European Court of Human Rights, the European Convention on Human Rights, a brief filed by former U.N. High Commissioner for Human Rights Mary Robinson and "other nations, too."

Kennedy emphasized the "values we share with a wider civilization." In fact, most other countries do not share American values, and we certainly do not want to share theirs.

During his confirmation hearings, Chief Justice John G. Roberts pointed out a particular danger of using foreign law. He said that reliance on foreign law wrongly "expands the discretion of the judge" and substitutes a judge's "personal preferences" for the U.S. Constitution.

Citing foreign law gives a veneer of respectability to liberals who espouse the "living Constitution" heresy and want to change it without obtaining the approval of the American people through the amendment or legislative processes.

The Senate should reject the nomination of Harold Koh. Then, the Senate should require all judicial nominees to proclaim their adherence to the U.S. Constitution as written, and their rejection of the use of foreign or international law to interpret American law.

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The American Revolution . . .
. . . happened because we didn't want our laws made in London. Now we are naming a legal power who thinks our law should be made in Berlin?
Looks like time for another American Revolution.

America has entered into a lawless
Period. we have anarchy being promoted by people sitting in positions of power.

They are lawless when they do not submit themselves to the laws they have already sworn an oath to uphold.

The obama admin is inspired by anarchy, not the rule of law

How is this possible
Scary that Justices Ginsburg, Breyer and O'Connor have already been taking international (so-called) law into consideration when ruling on whether cases before the Supreme Court are Constitutional or not...if they are supposed to be so smart how do they fail so profoundly to understand that their job is to work from the Constitution, not laws from overseas. How is this even possible? There should be a big, loud buzzer with flashing lights that goes off the minute anyone at the Supreme Court even mentions using non-US laws in any way shape or form. Heck, it should even go off when they start chatting about it at cocktail parties.

Now, really......

"But Koh thinks we should bow to foreign rules and court decisions, and to United Nations treaties whether or not we have ratified them."

Is'nt this the "hope and change" we were promised?..........

bwhahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaa.....yes we can!

How About Some Info on Mr. Koh
This is a rather silly article by Ms. Schlafly. Mr. Koh is the villain of the piece, but she tells us next to nothing about him or his views.

Our laws are made by our congress and interpreted by our judges. What role does Mr. Koh play in all this? Yeah, I know, he is a "Transnationalist". Yes, he may give his legal opinion on treaties and other agreements, but that doesn't mean he will have any influence on American law. This looks like more fear mongering to me.

Lawlessness

How do we expect the citizens of this country to respect our laws if our own judges are lawless?

Any judge making decisions not based on our constitution or laws passed by our representatives should be removed from the bench and charged with treason.

It looks like that is exactly what it will take to make these people see we the people will not submit to an kritocracy.

Robert


Location: CA
Reply # 2
Date: May 26, 2009 - 11:49 PM EST

How About Some Info on Mr. Koh
This is a rather silly article by Ms. Schlafly. Mr. Koh is the villain of the piece, but she tells us next to nothing about him or his views.

Our laws are made by our congress and interpreted by our judges. What role does Mr. Koh play in all this? Yeah, I know, he is a "Transnationalist". Yes, he may give his legal opinion on treaties and other agreements, but that doesn't mean he will have any influence on American law. This looks like more fear mongering to me.

~~~

Take a breath Robert. Now take another.

Try to keep this in mind, you MUST take a breath every second or two.

Yes, I consider you too stupid to breathe on your own.

~~~

Harold Koh's beliefs and writings are well documented. Google them and learn.

Ask a neighborhood Kid how to Google. They will happily help you.

It amazes me how you have lived long enough to find the Internet, and all the sites you hate, so you can post on them.

Using foreign law...

It is patently illegal, Because we have a Constitution That spells out OUR LAWS !

For an appointed official in Zimbabwe, or Egypt, France, or any other Country,
to dictate what I am allowed to do or not do, is again, patently illegal.

If I wanted their laws, in preference to ours, I would move there.

~~~

Ex: Germany made it illegal to be a Jew. They were killed.

Ex: Germany made it illegal to be homosexual. They were killed.

Ex: England mandated Sharia law in certain neighborhoods. Women are beaten to death, or beheaded. I do not want this here.

Those were all foreign laws.



There. You have three reasonable objections to foreign rule over your country.

I am assuming here, that you might be an American citizen, although, you do not sound like it, as you have ZERO knowledge of our history, our laws, or our culture.

That's fine
I'll just chop his head off with the Saudi government sword, and let him know as his noogin is hitting the dirt, his crimes against Wahabbism were seen as internationally unacceptable, and that treason against teh USA was of no concern.
Another liberal getting what they asked for is another good day in America.

wobert of CA

Our Federal Government was created, with acquiescence from the 13 colonies, that they would enter into an agreement with the others, to form a Federal Government, known as a Republic.

Our Fathers set up a Government of laws, not feelings.

Republic ~ Rule by law.

Democracy ~ Rule by feelings.



It was NOT a democracy. (Democracy ~ Greek: 'Of the People')

Or, Democracy: 2 wolves and a sheep deciding what is for dinner.

Democracy is MOB rule, no more no less.


~~~

This FEDERALISM was delineated by the constitution, but was stopped dead, until the first 10 amendments were added.

The First 10 amendments are known as the Bill Of Rights.

They state what the government cannot DO TO YOU, among other things.

I like that.

Too bad, that over the years, the shakers and makers, the Nabobs, the controllers... have watered this down.

Yes the Icon, Abraham Lincoln did more to destroy our Country than all other previous Presidents combined.


All this info IS out there, wobert,

Do you want to be educated, or do you want to be a slave?



Dag Shame.


Dag
Location: IL
Reply # 8
Date: May 27, 2009 - 4:49 AM EST That's fine
I'll just chop his head off with the Saudi government sword, and let him know as his noogin is hitting the dirt, his crimes against Wahabbism were seen as internationally unacceptable, and that treason against the USA was of no concern.
Another liberal getting what they asked for is another good day in America.

~~~

Dag !

PLEASE ! No violence here!

You animal !

Just stick a firehose at, 150 PSI into his rectum, and pull the handle !

Super doosh ! [ TH rules, you know. Can't use the same word as Ads on TV. ]

~~~

At my place of employment, prior to retiring, we had an annual firefighting class.

We were told to expect a reaction when we pulled the handle on the hose.

My boss, ignored this simple directive, and nearly fell down.

I remarked aloud, that it was the same way he used the urinal.

He threatened to fire me.

I suspect it was because everyone within hearing range, roared with laughter.



One world government
Yes, I believe that making Americans subject to foreign law is exactly what Obama wants-he's a one world order type of guy and he wants to be the King.

It is interesting to note ...
that none of these characters ever move back to Europe. There are some obvious conclusions that can be drawn from that single fact.

International Law
There is no such thing as "International Law". If the U.S. decides it does not care for the U.N.'s version on "International Law", all we have to do is quit, and stop paying dues. The U.N. would collapse financially. True international law is determined by those nations with the most powerful armies. That is why Iraq was punished severely for invading Kuwait, but our activities in places like Iraq, Afghanistan, Bosnia, S. Korea, etc. at most result in mild disaproval.

I agree with Robert
At the rate Obama is destroying this nation, there may be no other way to save our country. Or maybe it would be best to part ways with those who do not believe in our Constitution and divide the country between those who cling to our guns and Bibles and the Constitution, and those who don't.

The Reality is Bleak
With the Socialist/Social Justice Democrats in charge, our Constitution, not to mention our way of life, is doomed by the wims of these tyrants.

Everything that has been done, since Obama has taken office, has been to destroy individual rights garanteed under our Constitution in favor of groups Obama feels have been, in his dreams, disadvantaged.

The total destruction of America, as we have known it, is at hand.

Sure Ignorance
There are to many men like Kol in America, They need to be deported if they don't like the laws our founding fathers gave us. If American's don't wake up NOW we are going to be destroyed by so few when there are so many who have fought for America that need to stand up and let your Voice's be heard. This is My Country and I've had enough of these worthless people and Politicans. It is time to take back our Country and put Men and Women in office that only care about We The People and not the Lobby , Special Interest and Liberal Idiots.

Importing Foreign Law
Importing foreign law to our country would depend upon where it is imported from. Perhaps we should adopt the prison system of Pakistan or China here? The immigration policies of Mexico here? The Russian border protection plan? The economic plans of any African country? The house ownership program of Russia or China? The gun ownership laws of Japan? Or perhaps the Swiss instead? Bangladesh's tax program?

This whole thing reminds me of a Congressman's comments years ago. There was a large tax increase up and people were complaining about it. "I can't understand the people in the U.S. not being in favor of this tax," he said. "After all, the people in India pay over 90% tax. Here in the U.S. we only pay about 50% tax. So why should the citizens here complain about another 5% tax increase?"

Butch:
There is no way the present government would ever allow the country to be split as you suggested. All the tax payers would be in the part you and I want to be in; all those the government wants to get the money would be in the other half, rapidly going broke. They MUST keep us slaves around to do the work for our Massah's!

Phyllis
No, Phyllis, YOU are too dangerous for America.
You have been too dangerous since the days when
you attempted to shoot down the ERA. Fortunately, women won their rights without you.

You are afraid of the future. You can't even
comprehend how the world has changed and you
fight it with your isolationism and your rejection of the world community.

You go through a whole list of things which we
Americans don't want from polygamy to stoning
for adultery. And you are right. Why do
you assume that this will be a part of the
new world order. Have you no more faith in
our culture than that. Not only so that we
may preserve our way of life, but that others
might want to participate in it also but doing
away with much of their more horrendous culture.

You do what you do best. Fear Mongering.
You defeated ERA, but you didn't defeat any
aspect of women's rights. I am quite sure
you will be the loser again.


Phyllis is correct
American judges' purview should be the U.S. Constitution. Period. This nation was founded by perspicacious white men who wrote a phenomenal document for all time. Failure to adhere to that "dead" document can only bring tyranny with concomitant chaos, civil strife, and perhaps even civil war. Why? Because liberals view the 2nd Amendment as "something we do not need in our perfect world." They fail to realize that their complacency and/or naivete may get them killed. Conservatives, on the other hand, realize that it is not a perfect world and that there is evil out there. Those who cannot and will not defend themselves should not proscribe weapons from those who will.

Phyllis Schlafly
demonstrates once again that she is an American treasure. Every time I read her work, I admire her more.
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