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Friday, November 14, 2008
Michelle Malkin :: Townhall.com Columnist
Hank Paulson, Naked Emperor
by Michelle Malkin
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Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson finally confirmed what lonely bailout opponents tried to tell the American public all along: The man doesn't know what the hell he's doing.

Paulson held a bazooka to taxpayers' heads. He groveled on his knees in front of Democratic House Speaker Nancy Pelosi. He lured leaders from both political parties into linking arms in a panicked Chicken Little line dance for the beleaguered mortgage industry. Paulson demanded an unprecedented $700 billion Troubled Asset Relief Program for the good of the country. For the health of the housing market. For the survival of the economy. No time for deliberation. No time to review the failures of such interventionist approaches around the world. Now, now, now!

And now? The pulled-out-of-the-posterior "$700 billion" price tag has ballooned into the trillions. The "mortgage industry rescue" has expanded to banks, insurance companies, automakers, credit card companies and possibly the entire national volume of consumer lending. Oh, and that vaunted "TARP" component, Paulson admitted this week, is nothing but a four-letter word that rhymes with TRAP.

In September, Paulson offered his lofty pledge: "The ultimate taxpayer protection will be the stability this troubled asset relief program provides to our financial system, even as it will involve a significant investment of taxpayer dollars. I am convinced that this bold approach will cost American families far less than the alternative -- a continuing series of financial institution failures and frozen credit markets unable to fund economic expansion."

Two months later, Paulson's conviction melted faster than microwaved butter. "Our assessment at this time is that this is not the most effective way to use TARP funds," he sheepishly told the nation Wednesday.

Hey, who died and put Emily "Never Mind" Litella in charge of the economy?

Paulson explained at his non-mea culpa press conference that he knew when the bailout was signed that it wasn't going to work as sold: "It was clear to me by the time the bill was signed on October 3 that we needed to act quickly and forcefully, and that purchasing troubled assets -- our initial focus -- would take time to implement and would not be sufficient given the severity of the problem."

Now he tells us? Would have been nice if he had made this clear -- quickly, forcefully and publicly -- to the Beltway stooges who were pulling the TARP over our eyes. So much for Paulson's earnest transparency commitments on the Hill.

Members of Congress who let themselves be bullied into switching their votes on the bailout should be experiencing the biggest case of buyers' remorse in U.S. history. They fell for what Nobel Prize-winning economist F.A. Hayek called "the fatal conceit" -- the disastrous idea that a federal bureaucrat has the knowledge to do a better job than the private market in organizing and directing an economy. They gave unchecked power to a single government official without a clue.

Wielding his enormous authority, Paulson is desperately throwing our money at banks in a futile attempt to convince them to lend. Instead, those banks are either hoarding the cash or acquiring more assets. In other words: Paulson is helping the banks that were "too big to fail" grow even bigger with taxpayer backing. Swell.

The White House says: "We'll just trust our treasury secretary to implement the program." President Bush insists "government's role will be limited and temporary." Meanwhile, Democratic Rep. Barney Frank is shrugging off the lack of bailout disclosure by both the Federal Reserve and Treasury. But as I reminded readers before this latest bait-and-switch admission, Hank Paulson is not to be trusted. I repeat:

This is the man who proclaimed the subprime crisis "largely contained" in April 2007; "near the bottom" in May 2007; and "largely contained" again in August 2007. This is the man who pledged that he had "no interest in bailing out lenders or property speculators" in October 2007 and couldn't "think of any situation where the backdrop of the global economy was as healthy as it is today."

This is the man who patted himself on the back for refusing to "put taxpayer money on the line" to rescue Lehman Brothers on Sept. 15 -- and then turned around the next day and engineered the $85 billion taxpayer-funded bailout of AIG. This is the man who vowed he had "no plans to insert money" into Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac -- and then turned around and committed $200 billion in capital and credit lines to those corrupt, bloated, crumbling institutions.

This is the man who declared that "the worst is likely to be behind us" in May 2008.

Emperor Paulson's bipartisan courtiers in Congress berated anyone who dared challenge his wisdom. Minority Leader John Boehner sniffed: "This is no time for ideological purity." Well, ideological pollution begat this mess. It's time for a fiscal-conservative counterinsurgency to disrobe and disarm the charlatans before they do more harm.

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Mr. Five Hundred Million.
Now you know, how confidence man Paulson made his money. And folks you watch, with bailout money flying around to this bank and that bank we need to be monitoring off-shore, I guarantee you when all is said and done, this five hundred million gentleman is gonna be worth billions, because you've got to figure the six billion in bonuses that AIG has on tap for their top execs with thanks in part to Mr. Paulson, the 1.6 billion dollar question is what is Pauly boys cut?

Should have listened to Ron Paul!
Good ol' RP never voted for this piece. He certainly didn't vote against it then vote for it when they loaded it up with even more pork. He knows the right thing isn't rewarding failed businesses and irresponsible homeowners by giving them the money of the hardworking and responsible.

Big Belly Paulson already has
all the money in the world running Goldman Sachs.He was trying to do an impossible job that was dumped on his watch that he did not have full control of.He is not the bad guy. The line for that is really long.And conservatives please note don't just skip over all the Republicans.

Can You Imagine . . .
the outcry if Congress had not passed the bailout? All the ills of the market tanking would be placed at the door of the Republicans for opposing the bailout.

Why do I get the feeling that whatever Hank Paulson recommends we should do the opposite? It's the same for Obama. His policies of 'spreading the wealth' will destroy wealth as there won't be any wealth creation.

Cyclist
Which bailout are you talking about?

Are you saying bailing out the banks is cool?

Isn't the $750 Bush-Bolshevik bank bailout Socialism? The Republican party is very similar to the Bolshevik party in Russia circa 1917.

Russia was governed by a tri-umvirate of three men called Vladimir Lenin, Leon Trosky and Joseph Stalin.

Today, Republican-Bolsheviks are George Bush, Hank Paulson and Ben Bernanke.

And now the Republican wealth-redistribution continues. Today, I read that banks, having received their first $250 billion installment of taxpayer monies, are distributing it to their sacred stockholders in the form of dividend checks.

Another item on the banker's list on how to best use the taxpayer's money, is to partake in some lucrative Mergers and Acquisition activity. Oh, these Bush-Bolsheviks are clever in their wealth redistribution. Now, I'm beginning to think the term 'Bush-Fascists' is more apropos. What do you think?



You know what I meant
Zap ...

If Republicans had not caved and actually voted against their president and blocked the bailout, the subsequent tanking of the stock market would have been put at the feet of the Republicans and they would have been dead politically for years to come. The fact that the market tanked anyway proves that bailouts don't work.

Note to liberals: Bush is not, never was, nor has been a fiscal conservative.

The Mutual Blackmail Society
The only people that know what has been going on since Ross Perot destroyed the Republican Party (Independent with no electoral votes 1992) have been members of The Mutual Blackmail Society, (formally the US Democratic Party). Since the Fourth Estate, the Press, no longer exists, we will defer all solutions to the Entertainment Industry. This is going to be a nifty ride to watch by The Islamic World Destiny fanatics. No need for Nuclear Jihad during this pony show.

Hooray for Michelle Malkin
Once again, Michelle's clarity and wisdom regarding the Treasury secretary's lunacy is right on. Not to mention the morons in Congress who were re-elected to their jobs. Can you believe Barney Frank in still watching the chicken coop, along with the self-righteous loud mouth Chris Dodd. Unbelievable! They should both be in jail. But as they said on The Factor last night (joking with Dennis Miller) -- Barney would probably like that.

who is to blame for this economic crisis
Well, when Ron Paul asked idiot McCain at one of the republican debates how we are going to pay for the war/wars that McCain stated the US would fight and the 100 year occupation of Iraq , idiot McCain just made a funny face. I guess that his handler Lieberman, another Israeli firster who thinks that US blood and treasure is for the whims of Israeli firsters did not prepare him with an answer. It is time to kick out the neocon trash out of the republican party. They used our idiot president to invade Iraq and now they want Iran. Robert Rubin, Alan Greenspan, and Arthur Leavitt are reponsible for thwarting CFTC chairman Brooksley Born's attempt to avert this credit default swap debacle during the Clinton administration. Yet Rubin is around Obama now ! It is time to get Goldman Sachs out of the White House . Bring in economists and financiers from Chicago and not from New York.

Mad as HELL
I knew it. I wrote every senator and congressperson I know (several) and said "Don't vote for this turkey (bailout)". Everyone who did vote for it should be banned from public office. Thank you, Michelle, for opposing all bailouts, starting with Bear-Stearns. I was a Reagan White House appointee and was immediately ashamed that a Republican administration initiated this Krap.

Whatever happened to the rules?
It's time that governments around the world stepped in and re-regulated the banking industry. In nearly every country in the world, the banks are doing what they want and the governments are stepping in to clean up the mess. REGULATE the banks so that they can't amke these messes in the first place. This is not a leftist vs rightist issue. It's a USURY vs FAIR EARNINGS FOR ACTUALLY PRODUCING SOMETHING

The Bail out defeated John McCain...
He had the bump from Sarah Palin. He was leading at the time in the polls. Then he had to go to Washington DC, and fix the economy. The man that said he'd veto all pork, signed on to the $700Billion bail out with $150billion pork attached. Hypocrite, hypocrite, hypocrite! Had he stood up and rejected the bill (for the pork, alone) the dems would have had to pass the bill on their own, and would have received the blame. He was too stupid to be elected president, (especially following Bush)
Maybe gullible is a better word than stupid, but certainly not leadership material.

Voting
Since voting is our only real power I'd like to suggest that the real problem is congress. With few exceptions, their only interest is getting re-elected. The only way to get some real "change" is to quit voting for our own interests and vote on principle and eventually things will get right. "Bringing home the bacon" should never be a reason for voting for someone.

Paulson
Michelle is right on point here. Where is the MSM?????

Robert above has a post. This is the first time as a conservative that I have been not offened by what he has said. I agree with him.

Bush is a fool. Paulson is dishonest and stupid. Our Congress is inept.

We are a ship with no rudder and we have a new captain coming on board who has never been on a row boat let alone a ship.

With Credit to Texaschuck
"Subject: Big Belly Paulson already has
all the money in the world running Goldman Sachs.He was trying to do an impossible job that was dumped on his watch that he did not have full control of.He is not the bad guy. The line for that is really long.And conservatives please note don't just skip over all the Republicans."
He has it correct.

The other 17 posters above also have it correct, which gives you an idea of how complex this situation really is.

We all bought into fiat currency and manipulated markets when they were saving us from recessions and avoiding disasters or winning World War II etc. But now the chickens come home to roost. Live by the sword die by the sword. Ron Paul is the only one of our Presidential canidates that tried to warn the American public about what we were allowing to happen, and we laughed him off the stage. What we are seeing now is the result of many, many years of missmanagement.


What made Texaschuck more correct than the other 17 posters is he didn't take the easy way out and just try and make Paulson the current scapegoat.


We all are to blame and the 17 posts above prove that at least some of the commentators are smart enough to understand that this is a problem that has roots we all supported at one time or another. As Pogo said; "We have met the enemy, and is is us"

The punch and judy show continues...
You haven't been a democracy since 1913.
Arguing about which politician did what is like arguing over sport. At least sports fans realise that it's just a distraction.

BTW Henry Paulson is Donald Rumsfeld without hair.

Professional liars

Like Bill Clinton, Barack Obama, Dick Cheney, Dodd and Frank, Paulson is as slick and slimy as a snake. He lied through his teeth about what his intentions were with his original bail-out propaganda, and he apparently believes that most members of Congress, and many voters, are as dumb as a box of rocks. He may be right in that regard.
In a collective sense, the people of this entire country, Democrat and Republican, have, for many years, been acting like petulant spoiled teenagers on a spending spree with their parents' credit cards. We, and the corrupt nanny-state patronage bosses in government, have created a financial cancer in our own institutions . . . and through our own numerous acts of economic irresponsibility. Sometimes a cancer has to be cut out with surgery before the patient can heal. We need to all endure the legitimate consequences of our own collective mistakes. If that means suffering for a while, then so be it. It should be obvious that public bailouts, subsidies and "guarantees" for private for-profit businesses are an INVITATION to corruption. Let the corrupt and inefficient businesses DIE! In the long-run, we will be better off as a result.

And...
If Ron Paul??? said don't go for the bail out he is a smart guy. Why didn't I hear about him in the election?

Obama's Fault
None of this is Obama's fault. If he had any part it was very small. It is clear that it is a combination of Democratic leadership shenanigans and Bush stupidity. I would say that Bush has shown himself to be the worst president on the economy since FDR prolonged the depression. The problem is that Obama has promised us that he will actually be worse than Bush. Hopefully, he is smart enough to not keep his promises. Otherwise we are in trouble as a nation. Pray for us.

Obama trolls
The trolls are criticizing Bush for failed fiscal policy, generally. Their guy would have done better? Their guy would have been more restrained? Unfortunately, I have not heard from a leader who will tell the truth. WE are screwed. People will really feel the correction. Who will have the courage to tell the spoiled electorate that sixty years of giveaways, entitlements, pork, and socialism have brought us to this point? Who will have the courage to face the spoiled brats who want even more even now?

Ham
Obama benefitted from Freddie/Fannie with his own subprime loan and then hired Emmanuel, who is also using other people's money to pay his mortgage in a posh shitcago n'hood with a not for profit atatus...UFB. And his constituents keep giving him a pass...Just wait and see how much worse it will be.

Nickel (corrected version)
With Credit to Texaschuck

"Subject: Big Belly Paulson already has
all the money in the world running Goldman Sachs.He was trying to do an impossible job that was dumped on his watch that he did not have full control of.He is not the bad guy. The line for that is really long.And conservatives please note don't just skip over all the Republicans."

He has it correct.

The other 17 posters above also have it correct, which gives you an idea of how complex this situation really is.

We all bought into fiat currency and manipulated markets when they were saving us from recessions and avoiding disasters or winning World War II etc. But now the chickens come home to roost. Live by the sword die by the sword. Ron Paul is the only one of our Presidential canidates that tried to warn the American public about what we were allowing to happen, and we laughed him off the stage. What we are seeing now is the result of many, many years of missmanagement.


What made Texaschuck more correct than the other 17 posters is he didn't take the easy way out and just try and make Paulson the current scapegoat.


We all are to blame and the 17 posts above prove that at least some of the commentators are smart enough to understand that this is a problem that has roots we all supported at one time or another. As Pogo said; "We have met the enemy, and it is us"

Stop the Infighting--Part One
Admit it, both parties in Congress failed the American People with this bailout bill. I'm sure our lazy senators and representatives OF BOTH PARTIES are counting on us now to point fingers at each other in defense of our particular flavor of political party, yelling nanny, nanny, poo, poo across the school yard.

Grow up. We the people have to do something about this wholesale rip-off, this bait-and-switch, but Congress knows we can't do anything if we're not united. I don't care who's in the White House anymore, I don't see a single politician out there who can save us from ourselves and our apathetic refusal to get off our couches and force our senators and congressmen to take the power away from Paulsen, who is only the mouthpiece for Bernanke of the Federal Reserve.

end Part One


Stop the Infighting--Part Two
There is no Messiah here, folks. Obama isn't going to save you because he can't, he's one guy overwhelmed and the powers that be will keep him overwhelmed while they do their dirty deeds. Only we can save ourselves. If need be, we ought to be ready to march on Washington, en masse, and throw the lazy, indifferent senators and representatives who so willingly sold us down the river out on their assets. Bush knows he can't help us, he's known that for eight years, the only people who do not seem to understand who's really in charge in Washington is us.

We should meet on the steps of the Capitol building to demand a return to the Constitution, and that means NO FEDERAL RESERVE. Those bankers of the Federal Reserve got us into this mess, same as in 1929, and they need to go along with their bought and paid for senators and representatives.

We start all over again fresh and while it may hurt in the short term, in the long term we will come out of this much stronger and with a better sense of who we are as a people and a nation. Those new fresh faces we should put to work in Congress will have a vivid reminder of just who they work for.

If you won't as a people get off your collective assets, if you won't as a people get past your ridiculous party affiliations and take matters into your own hands now, then you will definitely get what you pay for.


Koolmuse and Tedmug
Koolmuse: Yep, that's right. What else happened in 1913????

Tedmug: Find all the senators who were against the bailout, make them party leaders. Someone here mentioned one, there must have been more.

Koolmuse . . .

I'm just curious . . . .

I've read a rumor that you are a professional musician. If so, why do you spend so much time posting your smarmy crypto-Marxist conceits and sarcasm on this conservative-oriented forum, instead of making music? As a libertarian and believer in the value of limited government, I would not presume to frequent the halls of DailyKos or Huffington Post too often, since I know that your fellow apologists for the nanny-state, on those sites, are not interested in objective facts. So, I ask again . . . why are you here? Whom do you expect to convert? Would it not be more productive for your own agenda to visit sites inhabited by more undecided "fence-sitters" . . . those who would be more amenable to your socialist dogmatism?

Myk
The GOP enacted the Income Tax Amendment.

Sounds pretty socialist to me. Take money and do with it as we see fit. Bit like Obama's spread the wealth comments.

I think the idea is to get everyone to sit on the fence.

Following a party for the sake of it, dem or rep is dogmatism.

Everyone has needed a new fence for a long time. Time for the elephant and the donkey to sit on it together.

koolmuse Location: CA
Hopefully, for the sake of the good people, Obama (who said he'll "be your President too") will vacate these stupid $trillion welfare gifts that your man Bush gave them... and save the country somehow.
OK elmer fudd, we really do believe YOUR prez is here to save us. How will he do that? Maybe by voting "present?"
Maybe he will put ACORN in charge of all housing and loans?
Maybe he will let his buddy Chavez come up and show us how to run things?
Here is an idea, take Myk advice and take a hike. All your doing here is annoying people. What are you like 15?

Failed leadership
A panicky leader is a dangerous leader. Americans have been ill-served by the illustrious, know-nothing, illuminati wimps who are trying to run the Ship of State. God help us.

Doc.BitterOwnerClinger
Actually his and Myk's posts are well written. You would be the one I'd presume to be "like 15".

Thanks Koolmuse
You learn something everyday, what about 1913, though???? What else happened then?

A little secret . . .

Koolmuse . . .

I'll let you in on a little secret . . .

Not everyone who acts under the title of "conservative" is a fan or supporter of George Bush. Some of us NEVER voted for him. Is that clear now?

I find it odd that you, a socialist, would blame the GOP, EXCLUSIVELY, for the Income Tax Amendment, given the fact that every socialist I have ever known (and I am a former Trotskyist myself) has fervently supported the Income Tax, and felt it should be even HIGHER . . . on EVERYBODY who is actually employed. If you knew anything about Woodrow Wilson, you would know that Wilson, a Democrat, was very active in pushing a more statist/socialist agenda. The socialists in his campaign ALSO were strong supporters of the income tax. Wilson himself said that the Constitution was "outdated", and that he felt the government needed more power. The BLATANT violations of the Constitution, of human rights, and due process under the Wilson administration makes George Bush look like Mother Teresa.

DOES ANYBODY THINK ANYMORE?
majority of people in gov have no idea about anything....examples abound:
Pelosi does not see a difference between Iran and Iraq, Obama talks about 57+1 States, Biden about TV in 1929, etc.
The worst are local "public workers" - croonism rules...their ineptness is embarrassing...Go to your City Hall with something not common and they are stupified.....like a deer in headlights...

Koolmoose
Barney Frank,Chris Dodd & Hussein were the ones running the SUBprime entitlement operation.

I won't call you an idiot.....you don't rate that high.
Barney & Will(ca)both said you were very entertaining!

koolmuse Location: CA Reply # 36
What has America in the state its in is unfettered unregulated brigand capitalism...a Republican specialty

And the opposite of that is? Communistic ideas and nanny state mentality. The truth is there should have never been talk of ANY bailout for any business.
I also noticed you have not laid any of the blame at the feet of any democrat. They are just as guilty of violating the public trust as the big spending republicans and all need to be taken out back to the woodshed and then sent home for good.
But just like the people in PA voting loud mouth murtha back in, it seems we will all get what they are asking for. Same as with YOUR prez getting elected

Palin/Jindal in 2012!

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PESO GEORGE!!! FREE Ramos and Compean BEFORE YOU LEAVE OFFICE!

"A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have."

-Thomas Jefferson

Why is this so Tough?
We are rewarding people for bad/irresponsible behavior.

It is the 'give everybody a trophy' mentality, regardless of the merit of the player.

Bad decisions have consequences. Let the consequences begin!

Let the market adjust. All politicians should get the #$%#! out!

Part of freedom is the freedom to fail. I say, let corrupt businesses fail. Right along with the corrupt politicians in DC.

I could give a rats' a$$ which party is 'responsible' for the mess. There isn't a whole lot of difference between a Dem and a Rep anymore (if there ever was)

Time to quit expecting Government to be the solution when they are the problem.

Fiscal Responsibility is not manifest in another BAILOUT.

Let the businesses fail. After all, we have survived without Braniff, and countless other companies that went the way of the Dodo.

At the present time, I believe everyone in Congress (as well as Paulson et al) should be indicted for malfaesance. They should ALL be impeached/removed from office. Period.

A committee of Kindergartners couldn't do any worse at making a bad situation worse.

I vote for Big Bird and Oscar the Grouch

Good Work Michelle
But you are too subtle, say what you really think. Paulson and Bushes, along with Klintoons and zillions of others who run our government are followers of the CFR and its theologies. At the time TARP was discussed as a possibility it was clear that no one knew what the problem was or the extent. So after nearly two months, the answer is ......... fill in the blank. Two things are for sure, the mortgagees are no closer to finding a cure, and the lenders are in better shape but still hold the 1/2 value mortgages.

Right on Michelle!
I was thinking the very same thing about Paulson but you beat me to it and expressed it more eloquently.

Call them out if they are wrong DEM or REP.

Government is a Fat-Fingered Lummox
The free-market is wonderfully self-regulating and at the same time too complex for a handful of individuals to understand. Why should government's fat fingers be playing with it? Would you let an NFL lineman rearrange your china cabinet?

Why does everyone say....
Nobody saw the recession/depression coming?

I've seen heaps of videos on youtube, with (some) senators saying there's going to be a massive crash in the next few years.

These videos are dated 2006.

koolmuse:
The states with the highest per pupil expenditure and lowest student achievement are decidely blue. Why else would Mrs. First Time Proud of America currently have her kids in an exclusive Chicagoland Private School, and be checking out the most exclusive private schools in the D.C. area?

Nat
I agree, but you don't have a free market.

You have a little play pen watched over by the owners of the federal reserve bank. Everytime the playpen fills up with money, there's a market crash and the owners of the (not) federal reserve buy up all the previously rich companies at pennies on the dollar...

Pennies on the dollar...

Remember this phrase, you might hear it a few more times during your lifetime. It's the sound of wealth being sucked-up above the glass ceiling. Your wealth.

noboma and the MSM
Hey, what are you kool-aid drinkers worrying about? Your elected "chosen-one" is going to let a shining light come down and noboma will take care of all of you.

How soon you forget and you chose him.

Bipartisan sucks, doesn't it?
This was a BIPARTISAN move, regardless of what you Bush-haters who type in capitals want to admit. Bush and this fool may have proposed it, but the law was written and sitting on the shelf awaiting this crisis, which was launched by your buddy Chucky Schumer to Indy Bank.

Your vaunted Barney Frank along with your expert Maxine Waters blocked action against oversight of Fannie and Freddie. That cost you $200 billion.

So shut your mouth on Bush did this all. If the taxpayers are in quicksand up to their armpits your favorite Democrat clowns are in it over your heads. The American people know it, and that is why they mistrust Congress even more than Bush, the non-conservative conservative.

Majority Rule
The House Democrats are the majority. Seems to me if the Republicans are to blame for the bailout not working, the Democrats should not have allowed it in the first place. Shame on the entire Congress.

The Historian...
What happened in 1913???

He knows exactly what he does!
He is milking you for the last drops.

Free market capitalist selling us banks? Sounds kinda socialist to me. Like tax cuts for rednecks so they can buy more lottery tickets.

What tax is more regressive than cigarettes an lottery tickets. Voluntary, right?

Tax the stupid and the hopeless.

ohhh and...
Nobody is writing in all caps as far as I can tell... some words here and there for emphasis... by Myk mainly...

Not bipartisan
Fascists won, suckers lost.

Kool aid comes in both red and blue kids
Yeah, I said it before but hey, it's a good line.

Takes two to tango
Great column, Michelle.
I am afraid that George Bush, in a panic to do something, hopped in bed with democrats who see this whole situation as a chance for the government to seize control of the biggest players in the private sector. Blaming one side or the other is stupid, it took both parties to pass this. I am proud to say my congressman, Tim Johnson from Illinois was one of the few that refused to support it. By the way, he has been criticized in the past for not being enough of a party line voter. I guess there are times that works to your advantage.

Reprise from the Blog as we
Say Good Riddance to the 110th Congress

To the tune of There's a Yellow Rose in Texas.

There's some Democrats in Congress,
One name is Harry Reid
Nobody else can top him
In thought or word or deed
He tries to sound like Churchill,
But troop funds he denies
And if he's re-elected, who will apologize?

He's the biggest little whiner
That Congress ever knew
He says he'll back the troops but
He hasn't got a clue
You may talk about Ted Kennedy
Or scream at Nancy P.
But all Democrats in Congress are a travesty to me.

When you think about the danger
If Nancy were the Prez
You'd know we need to stop them
They hang out with Chavez
We must change the tone, and find a way
To stop these bureaucrats
No more Tax and Spend Republicans! Let's squash the Democrats

They're the biggest little losers
That Congress ever saw
If gridlock were in fashion,
They'd win for shock and awe
They'd hand out more perks to Immigrants
Who aren't here legally
For the Hundred and tenth Congress is a shame from sea to sea.

When the Democrats are talking
They try to sound so bright
They say they'll raise our taxes,
Or the Patriot Act's a blight
They'll withhold the funds from soldiers
Or say the war is lost
They only help Al Qaeda, no matter what the cost.

They're the biggest bunch of losers
That Congress ever knew
Their scandals include Clinton
Who gets her funds from Hsu
You may think they care about this land
But observations tell
That the Hundred and Tenth Congress is so low it rests in hell.

Catman Joe
Actually I'd say socialists won, national-socialists lost.

They're all fascists.

Ms. Paddy
That's very good!
Did you write it yourself?

Bailout
So what can WE do about it?

Koolmuse . . .

"Rational thinking"?
"Rational" thinking is in the eye of the particular thinker, or UN-thinker.
What appears rational is RELATIVE . . . depending on the depth, and breadth, of one's knowledge, and powers of precise, and subtle, analytical distinction. What is "rational" to an emotional 14 year-old teenager is not necessarily rational to a professional physicist, economist or historian. I would not be so presumptuous as to debate rocket science with a rocket engineer, since I know nothing about rocket science. I do, however, know a fair amount about history, since I have a degree in the subject. I know that historical REALITY and TRUTH are multi-faceted, multi-layered and complex. History is NOT simple. Like the story of the seven BLIND "wise men" who touched an elephant and then tried to describe its "nature", even professional historians will disagree with each other.
As a former socialist myself, I cannot believe there is anything "rational" about putting more control and power into the hands of a nanny-state bureaucracy . . . regardless of the "humanitarian" excuses for it. I have personally witnessed the horrors of Marxist regimes. "True-believing" socialists want to equalize, as much as possible, the economic condition of people. True conservatives want to maximize individual liberty, within the bounds of what is reasonably possible. I don't see how those two different aims can be reconciled.

hoc
Oh yes. I have hundreds of parodies at my blog site. Click my handle. Enjoy while they are still there.

Business Leadership
If Americas CEOs were football coaches they would all be fired.

As ENRON showed, visionary is stashing your cash in a safe place and milk the next quarter till the house of cards falls down. The guy with the most off shore numbered accts wins.

BAIL-OUT FOR AMERICANS
WE need to bail out all taxpayers who paid interest and penalties to the IRS. That should improve the economy. Any person who has a credit with the IRS would receive cash instead of getting a credit to take off their taxes in future years.

I have a $46,000.00 credit with the IRS and I am a senior on fixed income. No payroll deduction, so my $46,000 goes to helping Illegal Aliens and Foreigners and Business.
That is not fair and equal protection under the Constitution. I am sure there are many people who have a simular situation.

AUDIT ALL ELECTED OFFICIALS AND THOSE APPOINTEES.

Take it back to basics

The credit crunch and financial failures were caused by ignoring the age-old rules of lending: the borrower must have some financial interest in the asset. Once that precept was violated at the behest of democrats who wanted everyone to share in the American dream of home ownership, the only thing that kept the housing ball rolling was appreciation of value.

The ease of obtaining a mortgage drove builders to meet the ever increasing demand. Once prices leveled and started down, the party was over. But the financial sector had one more trick up its sleeve.

The non-performing mortgages were bundled up with good ones and sold to unsuspecting buyers of supposedly high yield debt packages.

I perceive this to be Paulson's problem today. He can't find the trouble-causing bad mortgages amongst the good ones. If he could, it would be simple to buy them.

So, since it happened on Bush's watch, he must take the responsibility. But it is only a victim of Bush derangement who can say he caused it. He, in fact, warned congress of the problem, as did McCain. The dems ignored them both.

If Bush caused the price of houses to peak and fall, blame him. Otherwise lay it at the feet of those who caused it...democrats: Carter, Clinton, Dodd, Franks, Obama and the congressional black caucus.

And factor in dependence on foreign oil caused by democratic intransigence as the bubble burster, there is only one place to point the finger of blame. Bush warned of this too.

Bush looks prescient in the reaview mirror.

Lib vs. Lib-Light...no real choice
Another nail in the GOP coffin, where this conservative is concerned.

CONSTITUTION PARTY 2010
.....because I should only have to pay MY mortgage
.....because I'm not in the UAW and don't want to pay thier pension plans
.....because I beleive in free speech and the right to protect myself with firearms
.....becuse free market enterprise WORKS when allowed to

Nice name calling muse.. Gomer?
The question can be reversed as well. If Obama doesn't live up to all of his promises and get this turned around... will you vote him out?


In response to "What is Obama going to do to get us out of this?" You say "I'm not sure, but you better hope he does huh"

Part of the reason I couldn't vote for Obama is because I'm not sure what he's going to do either! Well, other than spend a lot of taxpayers money and stick government fingers in pies they don't belong. Not a good thing when I'm a taxpayer with a pie.

wouldn't it be lovely
I agree that Bush should pardon border agents before he leaves office; he should also fire Paulson. Number 2 guy won't do any worse. Not all of the panic we are experiencing is justified and it's the markets that need to correct not the government.

As to defending Bush, with apologies to Koolmuse, his negatives have been overstated for 8 years and his positives have been ignored. Assuming Obama and the barbarians at our gates don't usher in a new "Dark Age", the extreme partisans on the left will share a large portion of the blame for our current troubles.

koolmuse
If Bush were guilty of an impeachable offense he would have been impeached.

As far as your comment about bankrupting the war effort, such ravings from the left used to make me very angry, but now I just shake my head in amusement at your colossal ignorance.

I now understand where the Kool in your handle comes from. Keep on imbibing the koolaid, chum.

There is an old saying that you should remove the beam from your own eye before attempting to remove the speck in another's...

There is plenty of blame to go around on behalf of every party in our government. It strikes me with amusement to see the blame game from folks such as yourself.

Maybe you could explain what your primary objection to the GWOT is? I'm sure it will be enlightning to those of us who have loved ones who have served, or are currently serving in the military.

Insanity
The current economy is based on trillions of phantom dollars that exist only as journal entires on bank balance sheets. No, your little crackerbox $130,000 house is not really work $585,000. Never was. But the whole bailout is designed to maintain the fiction that it is. The government has accomplished this piece of legerdemain by nationalizing a significant portion of the economy.

Remember how the Democrats went nuts oover Bush's idea to let people invest part of their social security funds in the stock market? Guess what? Now thanks to Bush's stooge Paulson and a pushover Democrat congress, almost ALL of your social sucurity funds are invested in the stock market! Wheeeeeeee!

Poor Obama and all his little hope and change people. He is hamstrung from day one because there is nothing he can do that will not hyperinflate the economy, because there is nothing left to do but print worthless money and then tax and spend it. Meanwhile on his watch, tens of millions of baby boomers will come on board the system with their greedy little hands out demanding their due from FICA and Medicare.

The smartest investor in America these days is the guy who owns nothing.

There ARE Two Americas
John Edwards was correct that there are two Americas. However, he incorrectly identified what the two Americas consisted of.

There is the one America that exists on truth and productive acts. This is the sustaining America. On the other hand, there is the other America (where John Edwards lives) that exists purely on bull#%!@ while doing absolutely nothing productive.

Unfortunately there is a radical shift among the population towards the latter America. Paulson has this nation by the financial short hairs. Any guess which America he lives in?

This country faces the perfect storm of bad energy policy, bad monetary policy, and incompentent political leaders. Take a deep breath; it is going to have to last a long time.

Free-market enterprise died...
In 1913.

Can anybody tell me why?

Anybody?

Anybody?

Anybody?

Mrs. Paddy
B.O. song! Ha! Took me a second, though...

As for Koolaid and Koolmuse he's drinking blue and your drinking red. In case you didn't notice, they're both laced with strichnyne.

disaster
The whole thing is a disaster.

Even though it was gov't regulations and legislations that led to this debacle, gov't can only make it worse.

Paulson is playing Santa Claus with money he stole from us at gunpoint.

The right decision is to let the banks fail. Allow new ones to fill the void. Wait for the economy to recover. It would take a few months but it is better than these incompetents pretending to know and understand anything.

If you think this is bad, just wait for Obama to "fix" it.

Hank Paulson
Another A-1, right-on zinger from Michelle Malkin! But you can be sure B.O.'s administration is going to dork it up even worse!

Over a month ago I said:
Paulson is just trying to “bail out” a few of his big bucks buddies at taxpayers’ expense. America better completely disregard this bozo and look at the problem from a clean slate approach. Flow chart and diagram in detail the whole Ponzi scheme of the financial industry. Determine exactly what went wrong and why. Assign fair blame and seriously punish wrongdoing. Create new, better rules/laws to make the financial industry more honest, transparent, and accountable. Include “just right” oversight by regulatory agencies. This will take time, lots of time but if we don’t want a repeat of this or worse in 5-10 years then we need to do it right…now. Oct 3, 2008 - 12:52 PM EST

Another long-term taxpayer deception...
Questions, rhetorical questions: Will the taxpayer, who is being saddled so far with a trillion dollar bailout, ever get reimbursed? If so, how? The way I understand it so far is that money is being showered on these greedy incompetents/crooks on Wall Street with little assurance that we’ll recoup anything. Even if moneys will be repaid, it will be to the U.S. Treasury and, to my knowledge, no provisions in the bailout legislation addresses how the moneys returned to the treasury will be repatriated back to the taxpayer. What I strongly suspect will happen is that if by a miracle any moneys flows back into government coffers the temptation by the politico thieves will be to use the moneys to fund their programs or as a sludge fund to bail out some other government caused disaster without any of it ever returned to the originator, the taxpayer.

Koolmuse
Just curious, have you been to China?

AIG
I'm still waiting for someone to try to explain to me how my life will be worse off if AIG goes out of business.

Mrs. Paddy . . .

Thanks for the "tune" . . .

I loved it.

Oust All of Them
Texas Senator John Cornyn and Mike Conaway, Representative, whom I dealt with, received thousands, if not millions, of emails, telephone calls, and letters from constituents decrying this bail out. Yet, they ultimately voted for it. Later, they had the audacity to write prose for the newspapers talking about 'the difficult decision' blah, blah, blah. These two decided that their judgment was superior to the judgements of the taxpayers they represent. I suspect this scenario was repeated all over the country since the bail out was subsequently renamed a 'rescue package,' as though that silly phrase would fool the taxpayers. Since when do these legislators have a right to defy the will of the people that pay them? I did not vote at all on that portion of the Texas ballot this month because there were no options to vote for. Once again, it would appear that the people were right and the government was wrong. It is time for every last one of the sitting politicians to be gainfully employed back in their own states, if they are capable of such, and to be gone from Washington D.C. where they slurp like hogs at troughs at taxpayer expense. We can surely do better than this.

BTW, the trolls can cease the finger pointing. Both political parties were equally guilty of screw*** the American public.

koolmuse:
Just goes to show how stupid New Englanders are.

koolmuse:
Just what is your "educational background," assuming you have one beyond Pre-K?

Ideological Purity
"This is no time for ideological purity." according to Boehner. This is why our nation is in a mess because of all the feel good fuzzy "let's take care of the ____________.
Now the _________ are all fat cats taking home a jillion dollars a year. Where can I get in line, my car needs gas.

hoc
uh....the birth of the Federal Reserve??

Hey, I've taken my pot shots at the GOP too...But, this IS a conservative site, so I write my parodies for my loyal audience base. That I happen to agree with the message is just a bonus.

Given a choice, I will stick with the Red Koolaid, Purple is just a muddy mix that is afraid to take a stand.

Cheers.

Myk
The GOP contains almost no true liberals
The Democratic party contains almost no true socialist. It's just BS to get you to vote for them. Like the way they say they all believe in God. It's just a prerequisite for conning the masses.

Up A Creek...
As a taxpayer I feel like I not only don't have a paddle, but there is a big gaping hole in my little boat....

We are going out of business. No use continuing to grow and expand if good ole Uncle Sam is going to confiscate most of what we produce. A lesson in futility!

MM Epitaph
When that fateful day comes her epitaph will simply read "I was right about EVERYTHING - just ask my fanboys!"

Easy to criticize...
,,,and difficult to understand. Has anyone come up with another solution, other than a Hooverian solution,i.e., do nothing?

Many had suggested that a better solution would be investment by the US Government into the banks. In fact, that is what Britain did. The approach keeps some of the risk with the banks instead of passing it on to taxpayers.

The original solution would have required separation of the wheat from the chaffe in the bundled mortgage paper. A difficult task to accomplish.

Unify Our Workforce
The hiring of 5 million community organizers will help give the American workforce the jobs it so desperately needs. Nothing is free, Its annual cost would be 250 billion dollars and would be a great investment in the nations future. The main task of an organizer is to search for factors in isolated communities that prevent it from joining the greater whole. Some of those factors could be education, transportation, need of economic development, and xenophobia. With total support from our government those problems would be solved. The final outcome would be a unified nation with the most productive workforce in the world.

Mrs. Paddy
Why not just say no to any koolaid...
But as you've already decided, who would be the person/people in the GOP least likely to serve you laced Koolaid?

(Non) Federal Reserve! Yes! We have a winner!!!

Gotta Go
Hey Farmers Wife. Catch you soon at a chat room near you. I have to logoff for now, though.

Catch everybody on the flip side. Enjoy the freedom to disagree while we still have it!

Mrs. Paddy...hope you get this
before you go

Supporting senators who didn't take a stand against the bailout... Isn't really taking a stand is it? Can you name me some Repubs who did take a stand?

Hoc: 1913...
...That would be the creation of the Federal Reserve. The one my very educated, engineer husband didn't know was NOT a government entity. The one that, if you do just a little internet research, will scare the c**p out of you in how they have manipulated the public and brought the country to the point of ruin.

The fact that no one answered you in almost 100 posts should illuminate the problem nicely.

Peace.

hoc
What's my prize!

I really do have to go, but just wanted to say thanks for the chat.

I drink Red Koolaid because it agrees with my core beliefs. Of course, to find someone who is a bona fide and not a poser is the hard part.

Heck...I like Zell Miller! And I don't like McCain! Go figure.

The bottom line, though, is I KNOW I don't like Obama. Maybe he'll surprise me, but I'm not holding my breath. Welcome the last nail in our coffin.

Paulson's World
Is National Socialism the wave of the future?

Actually, Koolmuse...
That's why I always respond when someone whips out the kool-aid slander.

It was tragic.

It's also tragic that human divisivness is repsonsible for the economic mess, not politics.

And, have you been to China?

Beth from FL
According to the blowhard crooks who are handling the "bailout" AIG is the first domino in the purported meltdown of the financial industry. AIG primarily “insures” various kinds of financial instruments, including these credit default swaps, and because these instruments are really “garbage” packaged as Godiva chocolates they are stuck with paying the insurance on these now near worthless swaps. If they default on their commitments then it initiates a chain of defaults, i.e, losses throughout the financial industry and eventually the economy. My take is that things are so murky and smells of corruption that a “bailout” is absolutely dumb as dirt. I wrote this over a month ago:
It will take slow, deliberate action with plenty of light shed in the dark cave that is the financial industry and its sidekick: government. Let the economy convulse but get to the bottom of this! A bailout is NOT the answer!

Also see my post at 9:27 AM EST


Are we sure it's not just a dream?
Could it be that we're in the matrix and obama is just Agent Johnson trying to unite us again? Jeesh! Enough psycho babble. No civilian security force to improve the economy. What Paulson did was what many businesses do, rush to fix a problem without thinking it thru. Sternfaced, walking quickly, looking like the world is going to come to an end, Paulson cries the sky is falling and Congress and the Prez jump. Now, we find lobbyists clamering at the doors wanting a piece! Business as usual in Washington. Poor us!!!

Joseph
"who is to blame for this economic crisis."

Did you know that the Speaker of the House was a Republican from January, 1995 through January of just last year?

Did you know that the House Finance Chairman was a Republican from January, 1995 through January of just last year?

What's the point of being in the majority if, you don't exercise power?

Any attempts of Republican reform of Fannie and Freddie the past decade was about taking power from those two entities and giving it to Wall Street. Wall Street used an average leverage factor of 40 and Freddie and Fannie about five. It was all this over-leveraging that imploded the Financial markets.

You need to read a wider variety of sources.

Mrs. Paddy
you beat me! But your answer wasn't there when I posted - it was only up to #94...!

Love your stuff. The parodies are hilarious, and your attitude is a breath of fresh air.

Have a blessed day :)

Peace.

Stop the Bailouts!!
I was in the construction business for 12 years. When the housing market tanked, some of us lost money; some went out of business. What is more important than shelter? Yet, no bailout for us. Why are banks, farmers, automakers more important than home-builders?

Let them fail, go bankrupt. Let the weakest be weeded out. It's called free enterprise.

BTW, when we subsidize American Express, you are paying for some dead-beat's dinner or vacation because he defaulted on his credit card debt.

Ms. Paddy
Your my prize!
Having a civilized debate with you.
Conservativemum's also my prize. Knowing that some people are starting to wonder why the (not) Federal Reserve isn't in the MSM.

Koolmuse . . .

Are you at all capable of learning from the experiences of others? I don't see any evidence that you are.
I was a Marxist. I've been to the former Soviet Union. I've been to Cuba, and I've been to the former East Germany. Every time Marxism has failed, the die-hard Marxists always say that the regime was "not really Marxist" . . . it was "state capitalism", or an "aberration", or, that the "reactionaries stole the revolution". I've heard that crap so many times I could puke. The failures are not aberrations. They are the direct consequence of the DOGMATIC application of Marx's ideas. They have always been carried to an extreme until they inevitably fail. The industrialization of the Soviet Union was built, to a huge extent, on the slave labor of millions of political prisoners. Every totalitarian regime can, for a while, give the appearance of economic progress, precisely because of the huge public expenditures in military and industrial projects, which are often administered with extreme waste. Those expenditures cannot be permanently maintained, however, because the FOCUS is not on innovation and the creation of NEW wealth, it is on the maintenance of the massive state security apparatus. Soviet and East German "healthcare", already technically backward, suffered more when the system financially began to collapse. I've also lived in the Netherlands for a short time. It is a bureaucratic nightmare.

Here's the bona fide NO votes
Here's the quick list of the senators who voted NO on bailout/economic rescue.

Allard (R)
Barasso (R)
Brownback (R)
Bunning (R)
Cantwell (D)
Cochran (R)
Crapo (R)
DeMint (R)
Dole (R)
Dorgan (D)
Enzi (R)
Feingold (D)
Inhofe (R)
Johnson (D)
Landrieu (D)
Nelson (FL) (D)
Roberts (R)
Sanders (I)
Sessions (R)
Shelby (R)
Stabenow (D)
Tester (D)
Vitter (R)
Wicker (R)
Wyden (D)

Seems like the Red Koolaid drinkers have the majority. Hat tips to the Dems and one Independent that were listening to We the People. Now I really DO have to go. Sorry.

Everyone say "Thank you"
to Mrs. Paddy.

These people should be the next leaders of their respective parties.

Joseph
Most of the sub-prime loans made were outside the government's regulatory framework. Private mortgage companies made, by far, the most sub-prime loans. They did so, because Wall Street could quickly package them up and sell them off, making a profit for everyone involved. Only banks that had FDIC insurance and are regulated by the government are subject to the Community Reinvestment Act.

How many loans was the insurance company AIG forced to give?

How many loans were Bear Stearns, Lehman Brothers, Merrill Lynch, JP Morgan, Goldman Sachs forced to give? Nil, they were outside the regulatory framework.

Are you telling me all those pesky credit card and home re-fi offers I got in the mail was because the government forced the companies to send them? I got dozens every week!!

Malkin Column
Why do we leave the country in the hands of dunderheads? Ms. Malkin is right on target. Bush kept us safe for 7 years and I applaud him for that, but when it comes to economics, I recommend he read "Economics In One Lesson" by Hazlitt. These people haven't a clue how economies are supposed to work in a free market. Wait a minute! Oh, that's right, who said we have a free market?

Gregory Location: MO Reply # 80
Starting to look better all the time.

Hawkeye58
You show an uncommon knowledge of economics. A black art at best.
In our lifetimes we have seen the failure of communism, socialism and free market supply side. So maybe the Bible was right about that moderation stuff.

Communism for the military, socialism for monopolistic necessities, like utilities,fair market for business and free market for illegal drugs and guns.

Check my blog for the root of the current crisis.

Kool moose
Your thoughts of me are the least of my concerns. You're not smart enough or tough enough to phase me or any other American.

Yoy throw lies around like Bill Clinton & Chairman Hussein.
You are totally dishonest and a moron.

Note To Self
Stop paying taxes today. These guys are not qualified to run a hot dog stand, much less the economy.

We have got to get all these bozos out of office?

THE IMPERIAL SENATE

.....Both of my Senators voted for the bailout ...I wrote to tell them that they would never get my vote again ...I'm sure they didn't lose any sleep .....

.....GW was elected with the keys to the Kingdom and almost single handedly destroyed the Republican Party ...

.....His eight year term shows clearly what happens when Republicans try to reach across the aisle and work "with" instead of "against" Democrats ...Republicans become the minority party .....COLOSSUS

Florida Republican Praises Dem Senator
Thank you Senator Bill Nelson (D) Florida for voting AGAINST this bailout! And shame on Martinez (R) who failed us miserably!

Fluke
I enjoy reading Michelle Malkin's rantings on TH and other places, because I've never seen anyone so consistently and constantly wrong on just about every issue. But even a stopped clock is (partly) right twice a day.

She's right that Paulson doesn't have a clue. And she's right that the bailouts are vastly underestimated, and she's right that companies that made bad decisions and got high on easy money should be allowed to fail.

She is, of course, wrong that it's "conservative free markets" that are going to correct this. That would mean, I guess, more socialism for the rich, more tax cuts for the wealthy so the middle class can continue to foot the bills for the Neocons invasions and occupations, profligate spending, and trillion dollar deficits. Better to end the corporate welfare, let Obama give tax cuts to the middle class while the failing banks simultaneously hold a fire sale on the worthless paper and go out of business. Homeowners can renegotiate their loans with their new lenders while the tax breaks kick in. The surviving banks who buy up the paper at $.10 on the dollar win, the homeowner wins because he can renegotiate with the new bank which has bought the note cheap, and can pay the new mortgage amount with the tax cuts, and the banks that made irresponsible loans lose.

Michelle, with your pea-brain this is as close to correct as you'll ever get, but at least it's not the usual drivel.

Koolmuse
I agree with your observations about China.
Although I would say as you encounter the people in the street they might appear rude. If you meet them in a social setting they are the best, friendliest, kindest people you'll meet.

Mao was the good with the bad. Early good, late bad. I don't think many people there feel good about the cultural revolution, though and I have seen some Chinese faring pretty badly.

But there's no way I'd consider China a socialist country. Not now, maybe once upon a time. As Deng Shao Ping says: it doesn't matter if it's a black cat or a white cat as long as it catches mice. We'll see how many mice the dems catch. Reps didn't get many. Not even that little mouse in a cave, waasisname?

Paulson is an Idiot
The high-risk subprime mortgage social engineering community service experiment by left-wing ACORN and Obama has created the largest financial crisis since The Great Depression. The full reach of the corruption and scandal may never be known but those who created it must not be rewarded. The architects, primarily left-wing Democrats, created laws, took donations, looked the other way and instead were too busy overseeing donations to their own presidential campaigns and robbing main street blind. Now these same left-wing Democrats blame everyone else and get up on their high horses and say, "we are here to save you" from the crises they created.

Ayers and Obama were financing the radical group ACORN through the organizations that they chaired. ACORN was the main force behind the financial crisis that we now face.


Yes Michelle
you are right. The big O is the cause of the financial collapse to begin with and his hack Paulson just keeps his recession churning. Paulson should have been fired quite some time back.

Koolmuse . . . Hopefully last time

Have you ever actually studied the life of Jim Jones, and how he brought about the deaths of those nearly 1,000 people?
He was not a Christian. He was a charlatan. How do I know? My brother lived in Ukiah, California when Jones had his camp there. I have heard Jones speak. I know how he used chicken parts to fake "spiritual" surgery. Jones was, in fact, a drug-addicted psychotic who frequently spewed Marxist propaganda in his "sermons", and praised the Soviet Union as a bastion of support for the poor and oppressed. At the end of his life, in Guyana, he claimed that the Soviets were sending people to rescue his terrorized community from an American "plot". He masqueraded as a "true-believing" minister to fool the gullible, and the Guyana camp was the moral equivalent of a Khmer Rouge terror and indoctrination center. To call him a Christian is ludicrous.

Let Me See If I Have This Right
Option#1: It's all Bush and the republicans' fault. The democrats are lilly white, defenders of truth and BHO is a saint.

Option#2: Since the democrats have been in power in the Senate since '06 the fault is theirs, plus Chris Dodd got a sweetheart deal to boot! BHO is just another politician bought and paid for by the extreme left.

I'll take Option #2. Plus, Bush has kept this country safe from more terrorist attacks since 9/11. Get off his back!!

Realcon
Most of that stuff is true too.

Dr Sun Yat Sen would have been my pick for a great Chinese leader.

Who are you guys going to pick as a new leader?
GOP needs a real overhaul at the moment.

For Koolmuse
Since you cannot tell the difference between communism and capitalism, I have a suggestion:

Move to Cuba.

Get back with us in 2 or 3 years, if you can. We will be looking forward to your report here on TH, if "The One" has not shut it down.

compassion?
koolmuse...I see Obama as a tolerant open-minded guy who has compassion and humanity that includes not only Americans but all the world's people.

are you kidding me???

auntie zeituni? hut brother in africa? "i am my brother's keeper. i am my sister's keeper." just because he says the words doesn't make it so. i trust actions more than words. words are for fooling people...

T.
"tens of millions of baby boomers will come on board the system with their greedy little hands out demanding their due from FICA and Medicare."

Watch it, Paco! Good post, but I would like to note that WE are the first generation to pay for our parents retirement as well as our own.

That and provided the money to cover up the failure of voodoo economics.

I have been giving you money to hold for 40 yrs and now you gonna tell me, "Sorry, I spent it."? Just try it if you want to see some militant radical hippy's.

Michelle and Hank
It's my understanding our government contributed greatly to this malaise via requiring and enabling lenders to make loans to subprime borrowers. If and to the extent this is true, and based on the experience of past government management practices, it is not logical or reasonable to trust the government to fix the mess. You go, Michelle - nothing wrong with your vision, seeing Paulson and the government in their undressed state. gene, longmont

Mrs. Paddy
Ignorance? Only the truly ignorant would put the blame on the moronic Democrats. Republican de-regulators in the US Senate and House and Alan Greenspan led the way.

If you are looking for someone to hang the blame on, look to “Poison Pill Phil” Gramm. Not only did John McCain’s “econ brain” create the Enron debacle, the mortgage meltdown, he is also responsible for the unregulated speculative electronic trading bubble in the commodities markets that gave us $140+ barrel oil and $4 gallon gasoline.

But, hey, I guess it is a whole lot easier to not do your homework and just reflexively blame some liberal Democrats.


Pat
You are completely wrong it's lily not lilly.

Seriously, the recession/depression was predicted in 2006, and isn't the fault of any living politician. It's merely harvest time for the (Not) Federal Reserve owners, while you guys watch the whitehouse puppet show!

And the Suprise is?
Everyone average Joe and Jane who have to balance a household budget knew this plan wouldn't work. I can't recall anyone from either party ever being able to balance a budget in D.C., so I knew those knuckleheads had this one wrong too. A Politician's first cure for everything is to throw more money at it. Now, we are spending tillions more this country does not have. Who is going to bailout the good ol' USA goverment when it goes belly up?

Gene
Only the truly ignorant would put the blame on the moronic Democrats. Republican de-regulators in the US Senate and House and Alan Greenspan led the way.

If you are looking for someone to hang the blame on, look to “Poison Pill Phil” Gramm. Not only did John McCain’s “econ brain” create the Enron debacle, the mortgage meltdown, he is also responsible for the unregulated speculative electronic trading bubble in the commodities markets that gave us $140+ barrel oil and $4 gallon gasoline.

But, hey, I guess it is a whole lot easier to not do your homework and just reflexively blame some liberal Democrats.


Koolmuse
Koolmuse--You are a rhetoric, slogan spouting dumba#s that admits to it. If you know you are stupid, why don't you try to get knowledge by reading and quit making stuff up because it sounds good to you. There is a huge difference between Communism and Capitalism but you cannot see it or understand it--Your grade in citizenship--F.

Koolmuse
I would disagree about Mao. I don't think he was evil, but a lot of evil things transpired during his, well, reign, you would have to say.

Check this guy out though if you havn't already:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_Yat-sen

Warrior
You are absolutely right:
Communism is a form of government.
Capitalism is an economic system.

When you confuse capitalism with a form of government you get the (not) Federal Reserve ruling the country. Oh, wait, you already have that!

Great column, Michele!
De-regulation happened with the assumption that moral and ethical legislators would do what was right for the taxpayer. Frank, Dodd, Carter, Clinton, Pelosi and Reid have proven over and over again that they have no morals and ethics. De-regulation works if the ones in charge are honest and law-abiding. That's not what we got and now look where we are. They're all guilty and should be tried for treason against the American people. When foxes are put in charge of the hen house, there won't be any hens left - and no eggs. All we have left is a bunch of foxes pointing fingers everywhere else, led by a community organizer who likes to give the finger to his opponents.

Wow, I'm in Agreement with Malkin
Why didn't this article come out sooner? I've been saying this about Paulson since the day he claimed the big bailout would help the economy. Here's a guy I call Mr. Wall Street. Paulson worked for Goldman Sachs (one of the few big investment firms apparently not in trouble). In 2004 he drew a salary plus bonuses/stocks of $12 million. He drew about the same in 2005. Then came 2006 when he was appointed by Bush as Treasury Secretary and took office in early July. For the six-month period he still worked for Goldman Sachs in 2006 Paulson earned $163 million in salary/bonuses and stocks. Sounds fishy to me and it looks bad.
Yes, I blame Paulson for not doing his job for over two years before he announced plans for a $700 billion bailout. This is a guy who knew the Wall St. operation inside out so he had to know what the heck was going on long before he became Sec of Treasury for the USA.
He represents another poor choice by Bush. The President's appointees to high ranking positions in government have repeatedly been failures in performance.
Why? Because they don't know zilch or they don't really work for the American people. After all, their jobs were just temporary and they had their own personal future to look out for.

--Your grade in citizenship--F
I can't stop laughing!

I can imagine it being shouted at the computer in a drill sergeant voice...

Can I have a citizenship grade as well?

Awesome!

@Koolmuse: China doesn't have a national health insurance system either.

Lucy
Look out, look out! Give us all your money or the world will end!

Kick the football, Charlie Brown, I promise not to move it this time.

How many times...?

Paulson Is a Shield
Paulson is a Cabinet Officer, he works for the President and is therefore part of the Executive Branch of Government. Money can only be appropriated by the Legislative Branch of government and appropriation originates in the House of Representatives. Paulson can recommend, he can cry in warning, he can jump on his sword, but he cannot appropriate. The ultimate responsibility for making money available for expenditure rests in the Senate and Congress. They have abrogated their authority and responsibility when they try to pass blame to any other branch of government. Congress is the bad apple if this money is rushed into the hands of liars or misspent out of ignorance. I am becoming persuaded that if the cumulative IQ score of the members of Congress and the Senate was divided by 2, the result would be a proper fraction.

RINOS and LIBERALS
suck.

No bailout. No payoffs. If a business lets the union run it into the ground, so be it.

Why should OUR MONEY reward failure and stupidity?


SWING BY
the Anti Liberal Zone and read the SCORCHING essay on sucession.

Also up, Obama's forged Selective Service application.

Michelle Malkin is right on once again
Michelle's article is right on the money once again. The Democrat - Paulson - has done a really poor job at his post. It's time to send him back to the liberal ivy league where he can get one of those cushy liberal teaching positions, so he can pretend to teach about things he knows nothing about.

One thing Bush did too much of, was try to "work with Democrats". Working with Democrats is akin to taking a portable drill and doing your own dental surgery...it simply isn't going to work. Hiring any Democrats whatsoever, to be part of your administration, is a big mistake. Working with Democrats as he did on so much legislation, was a mistake. Other things Bush has done, such as fighting the war on terror, have not been a mistake, and history will show he did an extremely good job on behalf of the American people.

Give us our money back!
For those of us that never wanted a bailout and called upon our Senators and Representatives to stop the madness, this outcome is not surprising. It's just bitter going down. Let the market make corrections. Those companies that were mismanaged or victims would have fallen by the wayside. Yes, people would have lost jobs, but guess what? People are losing jobs now. Yes, credit would have dried up, but guess what? Credit's dried up.When will we EVER learn in this country that throwing money at a problem doesn't fix it? Take a look at our education system.

Koolmuse . . . say goodnight, gracie

Look, you can present what you believe to be your facts . . . and I can present what, from my own experience, I believe to be my facts . . . until we are both blue in the face.

I do have a life outside of the Internet, and I cannot sit facing the computer screen 24/7.

So, let's just agree to disagree. I need a cup of coffee.

If you want to believe in the alleged integrity and altruism of Barack Obama, and the "total" evil of George Bush . . . a man I did NOT vote for . . . be my guest. I sincerely hope, for your sake, that Obama does not turn out to be a wolf in sheep's clothing.
I'm not sure EXACTLY who you are referring to when you talk about the "wealthy elitists" . . . . do you think ALL wealthy people, even self-made entrepreneurs, are selfish wealthy "elitists"? However, although I no longer share your faith in the alleged altruism and compassion of the quasi-socialist welfare nanny-state, I hope its Obama version proves to be more beneficent than my skepticism allows me to hope for.
While I wish you well, I do hope you can eventually rid yourself of the notion that we have had a true free-market. For-profit businesses in a true free-market NEVER receive subsidies, price-supports, bail-outs and "guarantees" to protect them from competition, or the consequences of their own mistakes or corruption.

The Plan Is Working Flawlessly
The big New York finance houses decided to melt down 2 weeks ahead of the election. Perfect timing. Bush and McCain and the whole RINO crew fell for Paulsons' extortion scheme. It was never intended to actually work, what it does is get the elites on the lifeboats. The rest of us get to sink with the Titanic and Mr. Big-Ears Commie at the helm. The media will convince us we're really just slipping into a healthy, chilly, midnight jacuzzi.

Dumb
Michelle is probably right about Paulson but he is not allowed to be a loose cannon; our government is built around a system of "Checks and Balances". The Legislative Branch must do its job. Paulson cannot demand and get; he does not have that authority. Stupidity in the Treasury should be impotent if the system in our Constitution is appropriately adhered to.

Same Ol' Same Ol'
why does this surprise anyone- the same dem's and repb's are still in office - throwing darts against the wall.. why should they really care - they all have lots os money -- our money .

Some key facts
Let's remember som key facts here:

Obama's # 1 campaign contributor/bundler was Goldman Sachs.

Paulson was former chief exec of Goldman Sachs.

Paulson, Democrat, didn't want to see poor Goldman Sachs fall on tough times.

The Democrat-caused Mortgage-Gate scandal, while being avoided by the MSM, was exposed for all to see. Only people fully drinking the communist Jones-town Kool Aid fail to see what happened. Rich liberals in Govt - Franklin Raines, Jamie Gorelick, Barny Frank and dozens more, lined their pockets while Fanny Mae/Freddie Mac were forcing banks to provide the bad loans so their special constituent groups will continue to blindly vote for them.

That's how it works folks. Bush attempted to stop the fraud 17 times, and didn't have success getting thru the Democrat blockade. As did McCain as well....if the MSM was at all valid, they'd be demanding the people involved be jailed. Instead, people like Franklin Raines and Jamie Gorelick made off with millions, and still are hoping for more with the upcoming Obama administration.

Strange strange world indeed. Basically we're living in a TASS/PRAVDA style media-controlled society at this point, where the truth is to be covered up while lies and cover-up are pushed out.

gunny
Stop cashing those govt checks, you socialist.

There's one
Congressman's name we should remember, one who has stood up against the peloonie mafia queen and her toady, reeky reid and didn't vote for the bailout..MIKE PENCE. There's a small core
of good leaders in the House GOP. Those are the names we need to remember. We should give
Boehner NO QUARTER!

I'm not a member of the GOP, precisely because I will not send a cent to the RNC to subsidize
the RINO's fools infesting it.

GMM#48 Hey cut us some slack, not all New Englanders are stupid, it's just that the majority are..I left N.E. some 40 years ago when I married..moved to another stupid state but not quite as stupid. My sis told me the
Income Tax Iniative died because of a blitz by the public unions, Fire and Police and Teachers..who'd a thunk it? And New England has been without any REpublicans for decades, it's just that some try to fool the people with the R..think SNowe, Collins, Chafee, Shays etc.

Paulson doesn't know what he is doing
And neither does Pelosi, Reid, Frank and Dodd.

Koolmuse
I can see your point, but the population of China wasn't a billion at the time Mao came to power.

http://www.populstat.info/Asia/chinac.htm

http://www.iiasa.ac.at/Research/LUC/ChinaFood/data/pop/pop_ 21_m.htm

I hear tell he learnt a trick or two from the vatican.

Koolmuse
Thanks, I now understand your problem. You cannot read--too bad.

RON PAUL
Got it right all along.

Nader said...
Wasn't it Ralph Nader that said 'the Democratic and Republican parties have morphed into one part, the 'Business Party'', implying that we've all being sold down the river by pols fattening their friend's bankbooks.

Now Paulson is handing our money out to his pals in the banking industry, Wall Street.

Can someone refute Nader's claim????

The MSM laughs, ignores, derides candidates like Nader and Paul. True investigative journalism died with 'the Muckrakers'...

Thankfully, citizens have alternative sources to utilize to obtain information. Now to just get the power to make a difference!

Amazing
The October surprise was the economy and the emergency bailout. It just had to be corrected right now and it was so important to add an additional $150 billion in earmarks for wool studies and studies of wooden arrows and enhancing people's pockets who invested in NASCAR tracks, and making sure the IRS had the new direction of studying carbon credits on businesses. Amazing. They all screamed it was necessity to do something right here and right now and then never gave out the money to fix that emergency. Now King Paulson (recently being annointed by the bill) says he's not going to spend the money in the way the bill called for.
Amazing. The American people are getting screwed and they just elected a communist who will slide us the rest of the way down the slippery slope. Amazing. The Great American FAILOUT..

when will they learn
When are we(gov et al) going to realize Goldman Sacks does not have all the answers and, despite popular notion, don't always make the best government officials? In fact, some of them don't do a good job playing one on TV.