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Thursday, October 16, 2008
Laura Hollis :: Townhall.com Columnist
Time to Use the "C" Word
by Laura Hollis
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“I’ve looked over Jordan, and I have seen
Things are not what they seem.
What do you get for pretending the danger’s not real...
Meek and obedient you follow the leader
Down well- trodden corridors into the valley of steel.”

                                                             - Roger Waters

I am tired of all the dancing around the subject with respect to Barack Obama’s political, social, and economic views.  He’s not a “liberal,” or a “Democrat,” or a “progressive,” or even a “socialist.”  Let’s call it what it is, shall we?  It’s time to use the “C” word.  His policies are communist, pure and simple.

Even without the power of the Presidency, a filibuster-proof Senate, and U.S. Supreme Court appointments under his belt, Obama has already:

*  called for a national citizen military force;

* sent government agents to intimidate American citizens who have said they don’t agree with him and will not vote for him;

* tried to use the offices of state Attorneys General to silence any opposition or dissent;

* offered questionable “support” for the Second Amendment “right to bear arms” – as long as it isn’t in self-defense;

* proposed his version of “from each according to his ability, to each according to his need;”  (plumbers – plumbers, for pity’s sake, should pay more taxes???)

* trained, funded and utilized organizations like ACORN that are notorious for voter registration fraud;

* consorted with and funded terrorists and anti-American radicals;

* attended a church led by a racist, black supremacist, anti-American bigot;

* been mentored by Frank Marshall Davis, who was apparently not only a Communist and a bigot, but also a pervert, and who warned Obama not to go off to college or fall for “equal opportunity and the American way and all that s***.”

Despite concerted efforts by the media to hide this information, Obama’s connections with the Communist Party have been unearthed by independent investigators, journalists and bloggers.  And like clockwork, Obama apologists and handlers are trying to assuage the public’s concerns with assurances that Obama is “not that radical;” he knows that “socialism is dead;” he is a pragmatist, not an ideologue.

Uh-huh.  Sure.  Well, they got the “pragmatist” part right, anyway.  Obama’s immersion in the philosophy of Saul Alinsky has made him a master of political pragmatism.  Conservatives make another fundamental error when they wonder why Obama is heralding policies like higher taxes that have been proven, time and time again, to fail.  Newsflash: You don’t get it.  It’s not that Obama is ignorant, or misguided.  He knows – as do his Red backers – that the policies he espouses will cause further economic trauma.  This is deliberate.  Because the worse things get, the more receptive the public will be to Obama’s & Co.’s honey-tongued assurances that the government will step in and “make it all better.” Look at Hurricane Katrina, and the recent financial crisis: how many people were clamoring for the government to “do something”?  And that’s nothing compared to what we’re going to face when Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid collapse.

Obama’s colleagues are shrewd; they know that they have little chance of taking over all of private enterprise by force.  Instead, they want the public to hand it over to them, bit by bit.

Even the briefest study of Communist Party ideology dating back to the 1930s reveals a concerted campaign to infiltrate and destroy the United States from within, by gaining control of the universities, of the media, of primary and secondary school, of the courts, and ultimately the entire government.  Joseph McCarthy’s monumentally bad rap notwithstanding, dozens of former spies have come forward, as have the documents, attesting to the Party’s intentions.  When the Soviet Union fell in 1989, those ideas pretty much went the way of the dodo in Russia, but they have been alive and well in this country for 80 years.  People like William Ayers are proof.

Communism is – at best – a failed business model.  At worst it is a recipe for slaughter.  In its initial phases, communism depends upon arrogance, ignorance, deceit, and complicity.  Its advocates and standard-bearers are typically messianic ideologues who use economic hardship to deceive well-meaning but woefully ignorant people into agreeing with its basic premises.  Once in power, however, the communists themselves are merciless, for two reasons: one, communists have a deistic view of their own righteousness and benevolent intentions.  And two, the principles of communism are fundamentally flawed and utterly at odds with human nature.  Everyone is only “equal” in the eyes of God; using earthly measures (talent, ability, skills, interests, motivation), humans are as different as can be.  Attempts to create equal results, as opposed to equal opportunity, are doomed to failure.  Failure, in communists, produces frustration.  And frustration, in communists, results in oppression.

Because of principle #2, above, communism has always resulted in economic deprivation – if not outright starvation - on a widespread scale.  And so because of principle #1, the opposition – and this becomes a larger and larger segment of the population as time goes on – must be silenced, because they cannot be “converted.”  When that is not enough (and it is never enough), they are jailed, sent to forced labor camps, starved, shot, flayed, buried alive, tortured, dismembered and killed in whatever novel and despicable ways the communists can come up with to silence dissent and usher in utopia.

These practices are not the exception.  They are the rule.  In the pantheon of the Unholy Church of Communism, the patron saints are Vladimir Lenin, Josef Stalin, Mao Zedong, Kim Jong Il, Fidel Castro, Pol Pot.  Millions of people have suffered and died at the hands of these butchers – initially hailed as redeemers, visionaries, and liberators but who turned out to be nothing more than elitist bastards cloaked in the guise of “social equality” who thought they knew what was best for everyone else. 

Communism has failed everywhere it has been tried. We have nearly 100 years and 100 million corpses as proof.  The only people who believe otherwise are certain American liberals – because they are the most ignorant people on the planet, and because they have never had to live under it.

But never have the communists felt closer to achieving their goal than they are now.  Make no mistake, they are waiting behind Barack Obama, panting and slavering at the prospect of taking over every branch of government, systematically dismantling the economic system that has provided our country with unprecedented prosperity and dissolving the procedural protections that have insulated us from the oppression, starvation, despair, and death that has accompanied communism and every other form of tyranny.

Americans seem ready to hand over their lives and livelihoods to this bloviating neophyte with associations so unsavory they should render his candidacy a joke.  It would be inscrutable even if there were not so much precedent.  We’ve all heard people exclaim, when examining incident after historical incident of genocide, or government oppression, “How could that have happened?”  In the same breath, they assure themselves that it couldn’t happen here because, “America is different.”

This is breathtakingly ignorant, and it is a dangerous falsehood.  There is NOTHING exceptional about Americans as human beings.  We are subject to same whims, caprices, fears and lusts for power as every other human beings.

What is exceptional is our economic and political system.  If we dismantle the very procedural protections that were put into place to protect us from tyranny (by people who had lived with tyranny and knew it well), then tyranny is what we will get.

And we are being lured into the same noose that has ensnared so many millions of hapless souls, despite reams of pages of history.  We express horror at the Hitler Youth in little matching uniforms singing “Hitler will save us, Hitler is our Lord,” but then we smile and laugh as we see grade schoolers in matching blue t-shirts singing, “Obama’s gonna save us.”  We are outraged by the army of children in Sudan, but think nothing of American black boys in camouflage pumping their fists and chanting propaganda from Obama’s campaign.  We are repulsed by some dictators’ claims that they are gods, but shrug it off as insignificant when Louis Farrakhan – a vicious anti-semite, among other reprehensible things – says “the Messiah is speaking” in a speech referring to Obama.

Still don’t think it can happen here?  Well, you’re in good company.  Neither did the Russians.  Or the Germans.  Or the Chinese.  Or the North Koreans.  Or the Vietnamese.  Or the Cubans.  Or the Cambodians.

Critics will call this alarmist fear-mongering.  So be it.  Don’t say you haven’t been warned.

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Laura Hirschfeld Hollis is a Clinical Professor of Business Administration at the University of Illinois.

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LAURA RIGHT ON !
LOUIS FARACKKAN IS STARTING TO SMILE THAT SICK SMILE,MCCAIN AND PALIN HAVE GOT TO WIN.

I Concur
It will be interesting to read the quite anticipated responses from those on the left that will simply chalk this article up to more "fear mongering." They are such good useful idiots.

Ms. Hollis....you are brilliant
and right on the money....here's some factual information for those who may doubt you!

Communist Goals (1963) Congressional Record--Appendix, pp. A34-A35 January 10, 1963

Current Communist Goals EXTENSION OF REMARKS OF HON. A. S. HERLONG, JR. OF FLORIDA IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES Thursday, January 10, 1963 .

Mr. HERLONG. Mr. Speaker, Mrs. Patricia Nordman of De Land, Fla., is an ardent and articulate opponent of communism, and until recently published the De Land Courier, which she dedicated to the purpose of alerting the public to the dangers of communism in America.

At Mrs. Nordman's request, I include in the RECORD, under unanimous consent, the following "Current Communist Goals," which she identifies as an excerpt from "The Naked Communist," by Cleon Skousen:
[From "The Naked Communist," by Cleon Skousen]

1. U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.

2. U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.

3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.

4. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.

5. Extension of long-term loans to Russia and Soviet satellites.

6. Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination.

7. Grant recognition of Red China. Admission of Red China to the U.N.

(Cont'd)

Obama the enabler

You can call Obama a communist. A nicer word is an enabler. Let's take care of those Americans who are jealous of all the others who have better lives, but don't want to do anything about it themselves. More liberal illuminati with Obama that just keeps getting presented in a glowing package by the liberal media.

more steps in the process.......
8. Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of Khrushchev's promise in 1955 to settle the German question by free elections under supervision of the U.N.

9. Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the United States has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress.

10. Allow all Soviet satellites individual representation in the U.N.

11. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces. (Some Communist leaders believe the world can be taken over as easily by the U.N. as by Moscow. Sometimes these two centers compete with each other as they are now doing in the Congo.)

12. Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party.

13. Do away with all loyalty oaths.

14. Continue giving Russia access to the U.S. Patent Office.

15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.

16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.

17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.

18. Gain control of all student newspapers.

19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.

20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, and policy-making positions.

want some more info?..here ya go!
21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.

22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to "eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms."

23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. "Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art."

24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.

25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.

26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, and healthy."

27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity, which does not need a "religious crutch."

28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state."

29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.

30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man."

More RED Alert....
31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of the "big picture." Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.

32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture--education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.

33. Eliminate all laws or procedures which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus.

34. Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities.

35. Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI.

36. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.

37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business.

38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand [or treat].

How about some more?
39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.

40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.

41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.

42. Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special-interest groups should rise up and use ["] united force ["] to solve economic, political or social problems.

43. Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready for self-government.

44. Internationalize the Panama Canal.

45. Repeal the Connelly reservation so the United States cannot prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction [over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction] over nations and individuals alike.

ANY *&*^% questions?

(Thanks Ms. Hollis)....once again, you are a brilliant writer!

Jeff from GA
You are right.

In the wagon
I think it was Jason Davis that said, "When there are more people in the wagon than there are pulling the wagon, we're in trouble".
Well, we're in trouble.

and Repubs?
Republicans have their own wealth redistribution project.

The most odious is the wealth redistribution of American wealth to foreigners. Our liberal-socialist social engineering project in the middle east of bringing democracy there is financed solely through US debt securities sold to China, Japan, UAE, Saudi Arabia and Russia to name a few. Our economy and fiscal sanity is being hollowed out. Remember, we had a tax cut shortly after the war started 5 and half years ago.

China now owns $1.4 trillion in US Treasury securities.





more Commies?
As we all true Conservatives know, George Bush, and now with the help of Hank Paulson, Republicans have tacked on as much debt from 2001-2008, than as in the previous 210 years of our peaceful and freedom-loving America.

George Bush, Denny Hastert, Bill Frist, Tom Delay and John Boehner massively increased the size of government during this time. They doubled the size of the Department of Education. They increased pork-barrel spending from 3,000 to 14,000 projects a year. They, believe it or not, added a $50 billion a year, additional entitlement program onto the backs of Americans. We are currently spending $120 billion a year on carrying out a social-engineering project in the Middle East.

All of these big government projects have been financed with a ton of debt. This debt is symbolic of wealth redistribution from the Republicans who ruled DC during this time onto the backs of America's children and the unborn. They never had a chance to vote, but are now saddled with a debt approaching $33,000 per person. It's all been a big disgrace to we Conservatives.

"VOTE FOR LUCIFER?"
I've gotta be brief,but while the subject is fresh before me,...Those who know about the connection between Bill Ayers,Obama,the "Rules for Radicals" book by Saul Alinsky...Here it is:The book is dedicated to LUCIFER.Does that put this into the realm of End-Time- Politics,or what? I risk sounding crazy saying this,but in the name of God,I have to.

THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!
You are right on. This article should be required reading before a vote is cast, which leaves out ObamAcorn precincts understandably. The Good Book says that before a fall, pride has leared it's ugly head. As soon as we say the C word will never happen here, our gov't will become our Rodina with "MessiaH" ObamaH as our Premiere. Once we are solely beholden on the gov't for our "well" being it will take this serpent NO time to wrestle for our souls comrades. Communism is admittedly anti-Christian. As for me and my house our souls belong to the Lord. But beware of the false "MessiaH". He and his will try to devour us. Santayanna was right. We have been warned.

Ms. Hollis -
This is hands down, the most succinct and best analysis to date of this candidate. Thank you very much for writing it.

I am cutting and pasting to everyone I know - and they will cut and paste to everyone they know, etc....

We still have enough time to wake people up. These ignorant libs will eventually have to thank us, but we all know they won't.


PERFECT STORM
Laura is absolutely right. We are being led like sheep to the slaughter. And Obama voters are all useful idiots.

I'm sure it hasn't escaped the notice of thinking people that we have here a perfect storm: The economic crisis + the election of a racist communist = perfect opportunity for attack and take over by terrorists.

RIGHT ON!
Something else for all you folks that agree with the article to think about.

There are approximately 3,000 people that President brings into an administration. Look at all those that have close ties with Obama. How many of those folks, or people like them, will be in an Obama administration?

Food for thought!

EXCELLENT article
.
...So, I guess that's why the usual trolls like Don Juan, icon-smasher and zapdoodat are plying their trademark "interference."

"Silver Lion's" extensive list is most helpful in making clear the objectives of Obama and his ilk.

"Spread the wealth...good for everybody" was Obama's swan song. I mean, AS LONG AS *Y*O*U* ARE NOBODY, WHO CARES THAT *Y*O*U* HAVE TO FOOT THE BILLS FOR "EVERYBODY"?!!?

Operating systems
Does anyone think *nix or *bsd will survive Obama and the Chicago machine?

The "National Civilian Security Force" will need intell.

Obama the Communist
I have said all along to whomever would listen that Obama is a Marxist. But, as you said, people think totalitarianism can't happen here. The fact is that it has been creeping up on us for many years in an expanding federal government with ever-increasing power to control our lives. Obama aspires to dictatorship and the American people are about to hand him the reins. God help us.

He's CORRUPT


That's the right C-word;

This is what we need to pin on the whole Democrat party; and mainly on their candidates for Pres/VP

Acorn is the stigma they'll have to carry for the rest of their political careers. CORRUPT is the C-word.

zapdipshot, Don whine, you are obviously
communists yourselves. You push the agenda too well to be merely "useful idiots". The end of the USSR and the cold war did not end communism, only the largest supporter of it. China still uses it as much as possible, but even they must allow capitalism in to move their economy out of the 18th century. No, communism is actually taking pages from the radical muslim's book in infiltrating everywhere. Or, did the radical muslims take their technique from the communists that have been infiltrating the US institutions for 80+ years.

So Why Are You Losing?
This is exactly the kind of mindless drivel that has driven voters to Obama in the first place.

Oh, and Ed, the crap that Silver Lion keeps reposting over and over again is a complete fabrication.

The Obama Communist Manifesto
It appears that approximately 90% of those commandments are in effect. In order to complete the takeover of America is to allow Barack Hussein Obama, Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Majority Harry Reid with a filibuster congress and senate to rule America.

Surely all Americans have read about Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, Pol Pot, Castro, China’s Red Brigade that killed millions during the purge of the intellectuals. The list of the few communist leaders above was responsible for the deaths of hundreds of millions of innocent people. WAIT! Perhaps millions of Americans have not heard about these atrocities…everything has been removed from whatever history books are left in the libraries. http://townhall.com/Columnists/LauraHollis/2008/10/16/time_ to_use_the_c_word?page=full&comments=true" target="_blank"> http://townhall.com/Columnists/LauraHollis/2008/10/16/time _to_use_the_c_word?page=full&comments=true

The appointment of two or three more Supreme Court justices to the Court will lock our Republic into a communist controlled Court that will ensure our U.S. Constitution, Bill of Rights and the Declaration of Independence are nothing but useless pieces of parchment.

We American, Republican Patriots on a few cable TV networks, radio stations and a couple of newspapers try to get the "word" out to the public but, it is like preaching to the choir. None of the truth reaches the ignorant who need to hear it the most.

What we call the mainstream media is communist controlled. Therefore none of Ms. LAURA HOLLIS' EXPOSE` will reach the ignorant, spell-bound liberals. I do not think they would understand or believe this has been going on forever right under their noses.
http://townhall.com/Columnists/LauraHollis/2008/10/16/time_ to_use_the_c_word?page=full&comments=true

Time to use the "L" word
That's "L" for Looney! They're coming out of the cracks like crazy now.

Since nothing else seems to work against Obama the loonies are throwing not only the kitchen sink, but now, the entire house at Obama.

Its not going to work. McCarthyism doesn't work in the post Cold War era. Heck, most of the younger voters don't even know what Communism is.

Sorry Repubs. Its the economy ...

Laura Hollis might as well stand at the corner and shout "The world is coming to an end!"

jayhawk (and others)
Shouldn't you be in school now? Your mom and dad might be upset to know you're playing hooky to spew such garbage.

How much are you being paid per post to look like idiots?

Jack from PA - Am I lying?
Obama specifically said that his plan was to "Spread the wealth." His tax plan redistributes money to people not paying taxes.

Obama
Okay Laura and others.

If you can find me anything that shows that Obama plans to abolish private property, have state-ownership of te means of production, party ownership of all media, the military as an organ of the party, the creation of a one-party state and the eventual withering of the state then I'll agree he is a communist.

What Obama is is a far-left socialist in the same vein as most Social Democrats in Europe were and are. Sweden and Norway were not communist and that is the vision Obama has for America, not the USSR under Stalin or the PRC under Mao of the DPRK under either of the Kims.

Calling Obama a communist is mindless and no less mindless than those on the right who call Bush a Nazi.

And if you do think he is a communist perhaps you should flee before he turns the USA into the DPRA (Democratic People's Republic of America). The Chinese in the PRC and the Soviets in the USSR and the Koreans in the DPRK had a hard time getting out once the states became communist, perhaps you should flee while you still have the chance because on January 20, 2009 Obama will be the president.

Communist??
What a crock, Obama is the only hope for an America turned into a third world country by

republiCON FASCISM,

Get a life , learn to read,

About time!
It's about time someone said it and it's about time McCain got tough. Obama is not a patriot in the Democratic sense. A great article, just maybe a little too late. Our next President, as other before, will be known by the company he keeps. I trust McCain to choose the right people. Obama will only choose "his" people.
Thanks Laura and Go Illini.

O M G
The moveon.org crazies are out in force today aren't they?

China
It is not 1963 and while it was the goal for the communists to admit China to the UN, it was a communist state that sponsored resolution 2758, it was inevitable, by October 25, 1971 China had had nuclear weapons for 9 years, had a population of 852 million while the ROC had 15 million. Any idea that the ROC was going to regain the mainland was pure fantasy just as the idea that Taiwan was the Republic of China which represented all of China and Mongolia was a fantasy. The UN in 1971 and the US in 1979 simply were bowing to reality.

Taiwan's big mistake was walking out of the UN in 1971 when the US was working to Keep Taiwan in the UNGA, now since the early 90s it has tried to get back in and now the US and China and most other countries vote to keep it out.


Silver Lion
Are you aware that the Soviet Union no longer exists? Correct?

AMEN!

These people are commie sympathizers, from way back in the '60s. OBlahBlah may not call himself that, but it is what he and his radical pals want for our country.

By your standards, McCain's a fascist
So which is worse at this time in our GOP/Bush/McCain economic disaster? Frankly, it's the Bush administration, aided by McCain, who have used socialism to bail out their wealthiest cronies. Socialist, communist practices for the greediest in American, Capitalism for the innocent, suffering American people - a TOTAL Gooper, total McCain idea of how to deal with the economic crisis (and how it came about)

BTW

Did anyone notice that OBlahBlah calls Senator McCain "John," but pointedly referred to Bill Ayers as "Mr. Ayers."

Shows who he respects the most, doesn't it?

....you just might be a commie
Being a Communist is not about what you call yourself, its about your belief system.

- If you believe the benefit of production and labor is rightly the property of the people as a whole rather than the people who financed and created it, you just might be a commie.

- If you believe the only difference between those who succeed and those who fail is luck or corruption, you just might be a commie.

- If you believe taxation should be used to create a 'fairer' society, you just might be a commie.

- If seeing people who have made a lot more money than you makes you feel poorer, you just might be a commie.

- If you think government sometimes needs to override the will of the people, 'for their own good', you just might be a commie.

- If you believe the 'best and brightest' people in America are better at deciding what is good for average Americans than those Americans are themselves, you just might be a commie.

- If you believe inciting class envy as a means to political ends is reasonable, you just might be a commie.

After seeing voter reaction to the debate last night, it seems a lot of American are unfortunately becoming more and more accepting of Communist principles.

Obammie the Commie

Has a certain ring to it, don't it?

Just Keep Doing This Crap.....
Ms. Hollis:
"...His policies are communist, pure and simple."

This is just the kind of name-calling and character assassination that has cost the Republican party the respect of the American People. Come 11/4 it's going to lose you elections, big time....

By all means , KEEP IT UP!!!!


Akagi
Says who?
Putin's aims are nothing less then its rebirth.
Why do you think that because names are different, AIMS change, Ak? You are smart enough to know better. The "Soviet" "Union" was always a brand of Russian Imperialism, don't matter what they called it. Moscow was always in Charge and One man IN Moscow. Commie is as Commie DOES and Ayers, and Alinski and Bami are COMMIES.
The SECOND "it's better for everyone if we spread the wealth around" comes out of his pie-hole he is a COMMIE, it is redistributionism and the fundamental Marxist/Commie/Maoist Principle, call it Socialist Anarchy like Noam Chomsky if you want it is STILL commie and STILL Theft and ANYBODY who advocates it needs to be burned alive because they value YOUR SACRED LIBERTIES not at all.

the big mick

Thank you Ms. Hollis!
Your piece was wonderful. Scary, but wonderful. You have precisely put to words what most Americans are feeling anxious about. I pray that on November 5th, we can say "Whew, we are safe".

It is also very frightening to see the minions in lockstep with their Dear Leader. Bless them, they have no idea what's ahead.

Lefty Loonies By Hook Or By Crook
The left in America will do anything to escape from the idea that thier parent ideology is "Communism". To be fair to them, the majority of them are ignorant to this because there are some unique circumstances that must come together for Communism to take root and they ignore these facts or simply can't understand them.

For starters, a large number of people must be disenchanted with the current system. This can happen because of normal cyclicle economic ups and downs, a longer than anticipated war, high inflation, increased global competition or some other combination of circumstances but regardless of the real cause peoples pains are blamed on a particular person or entity inorder for Communists to gather support, and they are.

Second, You must have an eloquent liar who can tell the people what they want to hear rather than the truth. Even in our American politics, politicians know that if they were to truly level with the American people they would only rally support from those who know they are telling the truth and this would not be enough to get them elected. So they all tell people to some extent what they want to hear. The problem with Communism is a paradox because all of the sweetners they use to get elected truly are a reflection of the dangerous direction that they advocate.

Redistribution of wealth is not, never was and never will be the answer for America. Conservative Americans will ultimately take arms!!

To Akaqi


Last time I checked, our soldiers have died throughout history to ensure Democracy throughout the worls, not Socialism!

Last time I checked, we were not Socialists - well, maybe you and your Messiah are. What lapdogs!

From the top
Be nice if you understood the difference between communism and socialism.

Mike -
Right on!!!

100% Correct !
If you still have any doubts check this out :

http://noliberalspin.blogtownhall.com/2008/10/08/the_video_ liberals_dont_want_you_to_see!_the_useful_idiots!.thtml

I have, personally spent a lifetime dealing with communists in Eastern Europe, South America and Moscow. It's REAL!

Obahma is only the last straw being put into place.

Ironically, the first ones to be lined up against the wall are the media, academics or "intellectuals", homosexuals and feminists...

Hmmm
While this brings up some interesting points the information here http://dragcave.net/user/perloothebold
directly contradicts it.

EFI
Well as for dying for democracy it depends on what war doesn't it? I am no fan of Obama, and I hope he loses (but I doubt he will). But I do stress calling people what they are and not what you simply want to believe they are.

Don Juany Whiney
Aren't you the same moron that tried posting that Sen McCain wasn't a U.S. citizen because he was born in the Panama Canal - btw on a military base while his father was active duty military?? Notice you've shut your mouth about that one since your Communist candidate STILL won't produce a valid birth certificate!

Oh well, that's what impeachments are for - if he does manage to get elected, the American people will kick him out on his rear once the truth finally starts coming out about all his lies and corrput connections.

Ak
There is none, both are statist, both are redistributionists. Buy into the lies your comiqr Freshman teachers fed you if you want, there AIN'T no diff.
Theft writ large, State Tyranny, that's all they both are at bottom.
Anybody who says different ain't paying a damn bit of attention or, if they ARE IS a comiqr.

No less a light then historian Tom Wolfe in the 2k issue of Time (maybe Newsweek) pointed out the classic polar opposite "lefty and righty"
on the outmoded and disingenuous Linear Political Spectrum Model--namely Hitler and Stalin, were FRATERNAL SOCIALIST TWINS!
Your paradigm is discredited and badly in need of an update, Ak.

Socialism, communism, redistributionism, don't care what the THIEVES call it, Carthego delinda est!

mick

Socialism/Fascism/communism differences
Socialism: government decides property is communal, and wastes both property and taxpayers' money for rotten ends

Fasicsm: socialism backed by threat of brute force

Communism: socialism with added factors of supranationalism (one-world state), hatred of all other belief-structures (those which do not deify system), wanton butchery and property destruction

Nazism: hard to distinguish from communism (which it professes to hate) other than the mandatory component of xenophobia/racism.

No question, bh0 is a communist!

A commie by any other name....

Alinsky, Ayres, ACORN and Obama are Radical Socialists,
Marxists, and communists, and want to tear down America.

They are at the root of many of the problems we face today,
much more than most of us know.

These roots run deep into the past, and what they fear most is the
truth coming out in the short time before this crucial election.

They WANT people to discuss details of empty campaign promises,
taxes, etc, as a distraction to keep the focus away from what it
should be in the remaining days:

WHO IS OBAMA, REALLY?? WHAT IS THE TRUTH??

Here is a MUST READ article which brings it all together in a way
you have probably never seen before- Voter Fraud, Govt. Spending,
Education, Economic Housing Crisis, and more:

"Barack Obama and the Strategy of Manufactured Crisis."


http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/09/barack_obama_and_the _strategy.html

Pass it on !

Have to keep pointing out...
... the obvious, it seems:

BARACK OBAMA - THE NEXT HUGO CHAVEZ

Felicia B-sheite 1:30
I’d call ya full of Bullsheite, girl, but what you say ain’t got the balls to be bull, nor the substance to be sheite! UHF4-CH4.
When your fellow dumbolcrap/ commiqrs like the Rapist in Chief, and Todd and Phagnk, forced the Banks to make bad loans, and blocked all reform as Freddie and Fannie bought em up, your comiqr friends were putting Socialism to Work SCREWING ALL OF US, not just Whoopi’s Dear Little Friends the comiqr voters. It was the NOT SO innocent AMERICANS who took out loans they KNEW and the BANK knew the couldn’t PAY for just to make the loan sheet look “diverse”. It’s the NOT SO innocent redistributionists who are being bailed out HERE honey.
It’s your dumbolcrap/comiqr THIEF buddies who control congress on this one, sweetheart, who blocked all reform, who is spending, like a credit card THIEF, somebody else’s money like water.
You’re not only a bigot, you approve of Theft!

Mick

Useful Idiots
I couldn't care less for all you ignorant, useful idiots.
We have sold our properties and all stock in America several years ago and moved our farming operations to Brazil.
In the not so distant future you will depend on countries like Brazil for most of your food, that is if the Dollar will still be accepted...
The South American economic union, Mercosul, has just decided to use their common currencies instead of the Dollar as a means for exchange.
The Dow Jones is crashing mostly because of a perception by investors that Obama might just get elected and they are anticipating this with advance sell-outs.
Shoul he really get elected, it will be the world's record in capital flight out of the USA, both foreign and domestic capital will be gone overnight.
Oblahma, Pelosi, Reid , Dodd, Dchummer & Co will only be ably to watch and wonder what happened...

Big Mick
The top rate in Sweden in 1976 was 89%, in the US it was 70%. Was Sweden and the US then communist. Redistribution of the wealth doesn't make you a communist.

For those of you buying the lie
and trying to make excuses for THEFT by making an artificial distinction between LABELS of THIEVES, go read the Libertarian Works of L.Neil Smith, particularly his North American Confederation Series.

You look real stupid regurgitatin old lies that you've never spent 5 seconds looking behind.

As First Officer Spock says: "A difference which MAKES no difference IS no difference."
Or, If it walks like a commie, quacks like a commie, and craps on your lawn like a commie, it's a commie, don't care if it's Painted Socialist Pink.

mick

Sure he is and I am the Easter Bunny
"No question, bh0 is a communist!"

Yes if you redefine the term to mean nothing, yes he is a communist and using your terms, most of the world is as well including members of the EU and NATO.

Hitler's Youth Corps
Our only saving right now would be that the military we have now are not interested in enslaving the American people. Neither did the German army prior to Hitler.

But Hitler came up with the Youth Corps. It was supposed to teach the youth that Germany was a wonderful country and they were to make it great. When they graduated they became SS Troops. Ask any WWII vet who served in Europe about them. You will learn a lot. They believed that Hitler was little short of God and were ready and willing to arrest their parents if Hitler said they should.

Clinton came up with the Goals 2000 educational program. He stated himself that it was designed around the Youth Corps program. It wasn't offically put into use but was in some school districts on a volunteer basis.

Our existing army can be trusted to not attack us. Most of our police can be trusted to leave us alone too. But Clinton brought in thousands of foreign policemen to use about the country with the idea that if ordered they would shoot at civilians here. Now Obama wants to create a force similar to the Youth Corps.

Do you want such a man as President?

Big Mick:

I agree. It also amazes me how many believe the big lies - and how many will continue to try to make them work or insist they aren't lies to keep from looking stupid when they realize they are lies.

Obama's request for a private army worries me. We don't need ANYONE OR ANYTHING with a private army in the U.S. But people don't seem to see that as a problem. I blame television. There ar too many books out there that people don't read that tell exactly what will happen.

Ak
Yes it does. Don't care what you CALL it Ak.
You are taking AWAY something that BELONGS to someone ELSE. THAT is THEFT. You are buying the LIE that it is OK for SOMEBODY ELSE to STEAL and REDISTRIBUTE, don't matter if you are Mafia, a Mugger or the Fed Gov of US or SWeeden.

Stealing by means of the ballot box is still stealing. Redistributing is holding property "in common" BY THE POWER OF THE STATE.
Don't MATTER the Technique or the Labels the ACT, the EFFECT ,the PRINCIPLE, the AIM IS THE SAME! STELAING OTHER PEOPLE's MONEY.

Just cause Sweeden is better at it and their useful idiot cits are OK with it don't matter a DAMN to ME! It's still THEFT!

the big mick

Hey, How about an "ist" Tourney!....
Ok, let's line them all up: Communist, Socialist, Marxist, Liberal Fascist...Let's include any that I've missed from the Ocean-deep talent pool of Socio-Economic geniuses that write for TownHall...We can seed them like the NCAA Basketball Tournament...We can assign pictures of our favorite Liberals to each Team Title...Yes!..We can spice up the event by throwing in a few long shot "Cinderella" teams like "McCarthyism"...We'll go single elimination and we'll all vote on which Team advances in the Bracket...At the end, we'll come up with one, consistent label that we'll pin on Barack Obama....For those who REALLY want to see their Team win; we can suggest research and postings that make the case for their "ist"...At the end, the winner will be crowned and Obama will be stopped from winning the election, right?...Well, not quite...You see the Gov't GREW under the Bush administration to unprecedented heights...The economy, under Bush'(lack of) Watch has tanked...The Iraq war proved to be an expensive and misguided War against "weapons of mass distruction"....Katrina proved the utter incompetence of the Republican administration...Now will all of THAT cause the believers to pause and think?...Nah, of course not...See, the believers have buoyed our current President to his unprecendented 27% approval depth...Take away the kool-aid drinkers and labelists, our POTUS would be at a whopping 8% approval...What the "ist" accusers can't accept or won't accept, is that most of the nation is going against the "ideology is enough" measuring stick....But, hey, don't be discouraged. It's Jump Ball!

Akaqi:
I always wondered who the Easter Bunny was and now I know. I'd like several chocolate bunnies next Easter please.

AK
YES! YOU GET IT! MOST OF THE WORLD IS SOCIALISTCOMIQR REDISTRIBUTIONIST AND WE DON'T WANT ANYMORE OF THAT EUROFAG SHEITE HERE!

And we are using the term to accurately describe the Act, the Aim, the Purpose, the Effect, the PRINCIPLE that the State ASSUMES (FALSELY and WRONGLY) the Right to STEAL PRIVATE PROPERTY AND REDISTRIBUTE IT "FOR THE COMMON GOOD" that's COMMUNISM, that's SOCIALISM, that's THEFT by the STATE and it is WRONG, EVIL and UNCONSTITUTIONAL IN AMERICA!

Just cause you LIKE it Ak doesn't make you anything but a UnAmerican Thief Lover. Being in denial about what it actually DOES does your intellect no credit.

mick

But there is
But there is a difference.

Unless you think there was no difference between say Sweden in 1976 and the PRC in 1976?

Feeling No Pain cause the Truth does hur
UHF4-CH4, TH. No balls, no bull, no substance, no sheite.

Look at a map if you can read.

Iraq was the next logical Strategic Front in the War for Survival Against the Sandnazis.

That you don't get that says nothing good about YOUR intellect.

I WANT us having a sheite load of Combat Hardened Heavy Brigades canmped on the Political, Economic, Cultural and Religious Center's of Gravity of the Republic's Sworn enemies.
I want us killn more and more Ragheads every day till they are all dead.

YOu want to surrender then stick your wife in a burka and head over there.

the big mick

Obama made the following statement a
few months ago.

"We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we've set. We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded."
--------
The main question is really what exactly does the Obama camp mean by that statement?

"Civilian national security force" is not your everyday typical terms that polititians use. Obama didn't use police department or county sherriffs or state police or Coast Guard or any other terms. Maybe he mispoke or meant something different, either way, his campaign has not said much about it and hasn't set the record any clearer on exactly what it is Obama was trying to convey. Any Obama supporters what try a hand at what Obama meant?

Socialism--Big Mick
The goals of communism and the goals of socialism are not the same.


Longing for that Golden Wingnut Era
Ms. Hollis's screed reminds me of the extreme right-wing stuff I encountered at the height of the Cold War. I'm sure she would have been much happier living and writing at a time when over-the-edge conservatives could link a tangible global threat---i.e., the communist sphere of influence---to all the people and groups they considered too liberal. You know, stuff like "Joe Doaks went to a high school where a teacher was once seen reading Das Kapital, and Joe himself is a Unitarian and belongs to some group that is trying to stop the arms race. We sure can't trust someone like that."

Ms. Hollis does make one wise observation: "If we dismantle the very procedural protections that were put into place to protect us from tyranny (by people who had lived with tyranny and knew it well), then tyranny is what we will get." Thus, I wonder why she isn't demanding the prosecution of people well-known for their attempts to dismantle those protections---George W. Bush and Co.---rather than engaging in this laughable, anachronistic effort to turn Obama into a '50s era pinko.

Great article...
western bondbeam...can you find where that quote regarding the national security force came from? I'd like to forward the actual article around. This is one of the most troubling things he says, along with "wealth redistribution." We have a "national security force" and those are the Army, Navy, Coast Guard, Marine Corps and National Guard, etc. We do not need a civilian national security force.

Sandn...
Iraq was? Care to explain to us why it was the next logical step? As a jumping off point for Iran? Well, that's worked out well hasn't it?


Be Specific
As I read through these comments, I see Obama supporters use the typical tired terminology: "screed," "mindless drivel," "wing nut," etc.. I also see them try to turn attention to Sen. McCain's shortcomings.

But Ms. Hollis gave very specific references supporting why she thought "communist" was an appropriate term for Sen. Obama. Apparently, he has little commitment to private property or free speech.

If any criticisms of this article rebutted one or more of these cogent references, I missed it.

C word ,yeah that worked
I'm not sure enough people really give a hoot about the C word anymore. In fact, as Akagi has been trying to point out I'm not sure a majority of the people could tell the difference between communism and socialism. The fact that many people explain that Nazis and American conservatives are on the same side of the political spectrum speaks volumes as to the amount of disinformation or lack of understanding there truely is out there.

Shouting about Obama's communist leanings is not going to swing the race in McCains favor, especially when many of McCains policies seem so simular to Obama's.

Lets use the "C" word: Conservative
Laura Hollis, I applaud you, the Obamas Conservatism is dangerous for our nation.

C is for CIA
Great essay! Scary, but great...I have a lot of faith in our CIA. If there're nefarious doings behind the scenes of Obama and friends, our CIA works in silent ways...part of their job description. They're not stupid, like the left-wing media is! Signed, Big CIA fan.

Obama: Capitalist Puppet
Another "C" word that Obama seems to believe in is Capitalism. No other candidate has been bankrolled by Capitalist the way Obama has.

The list I put forward....
is the public record...and yes Akagi, there is NO Soviet Union....at the moment!

The list is intended for debate purposes only.....is it all hogwash or BS....or have some of these steps materialized?

Is Ms. Hollis McCarthy's "daughter" as alluded....or is she a brilliant writer and true American?


Splitting hairs
How about this: Obama is a communist preparing the way for a communist United States.

"The bourgeoisie is just as necessary a precondition for the socialist revolution as is the proletariat itself."
- Karl Marx


Evaluate Barak's economic philosophy:

"From each, according to his ability; to each, according to his need."
-Karl Marx

"I think when you spread the wealth around, it's good for everybody."
-Barak Obama

THANK YOU
Thank you Ms Hollis, for finally saying it exactly as it needs to be said! How I WISH McCain had had this kind of testosterone. I don't think he gets it yet, either. The leftists are NOT his friends. They may well have named him the "Maverick", but that was only so long as he wasn't a threat to THEM.

I have been saying it for longer than than my voice held out- THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT LIBERALS- they ARE leftists- COMMUNISTS. And they will do to us exactly what every communist regime has done to its people since the turn of the century.
As to the "useful idiots" (didn't Marx know his followers well!)- you are NOT good enough for the elitists who run you. To imagine that YOUR fate will be somehow different from the rest of us is to be an idiot, for sure.
Go ahead and vote for Obama. Who can expect more from you than sniffing after an empty suit? You people are pathetic and dangerous in your ignorance.

Don Whiney
No, it is not in doubt, you are grabbing at air like so many libs do.

What IS in doubt is the birthplace of your communist candidate. Why won't he produce an original valid birth certificate? He could put the whole thing to rest, but he won't. One of two things, he is simply arrogant or there isn't one to produce.

That's ok, the truth will eventually come out. True Americans (you libs are not) will keep exposing him. The truth tellers are not going away - the obamacrimes.com website will keep fighting. When he is finally exposed as the fraud that he is, you can all move to Cuba or Russia or China - they love your kind over there. LOL

Silver Lion
The list you propagate is utter hogwash. It is a fabrication written into the public record by a rabid anti-communist. It has no connection to actual communists or to communism.

You can find a lot negative things to say about communism that are true. Why do you persist in peddling a lie instead. Do you not realize it destroys your credibility on the topic?


YESSSS!!!!!!
THANKS FOR HAVING THE COURAGE TO CALL OBAMA WHAT HE IS.

But of course, it obviously goes way beyond Obama.

Maybe we really are at the threshold of the end times . . .

Let's redo the primaries
Okay, so we are finally hearing out loud what we all knew (suspected) all along. To many issues and too many unknnowns witheverything we know to be dangerously negative -yet the people want him. We've had too much propaganda from the media -starting hevily with "W" being systematically destroyed. When large numbers of people believe he took down the trade Center and went to war for Haliburton it doesn't take much to get them to think communism/marxism/socialism -what ever you wish to call it -throw in cultural suicide with infanticide openly identified and openly ignored by the masses. We are ripe to replicate the worst horrors of the past century, simply because the left has been serious and actively ruining the country while the right has been busy runnning the country.

McCain could have well been selected by the left he is such an incompetent candidate.
This stuff should have been shouted from the rooftops from day one.

That they could so easily come so far, is sadly, evidence that democracy doesn't work withso many ready rto give their freedoms over to big government. It will fall far faster than anyone could imagine.

Jack -
Please enlighten us all regarding anything to do with communism that IS NOT negative?!

I can't believe I'm actually askig a U.S. citizen that question?? What a minute, that's it, you lefties are all plants - you're not really U.S. citizens are you?? That must be the case, there couldn't be another answer, because any decent, patriotic U.S. citizen wouldn't be so naive, would they?

USA Conservatron
Pay attention. Read what I wrote, not what you imagine I wrote.

Do you guys take a training course in ignoring reality or does it come natural?

Obama only has 3 years to live???
I wonder if RNC plans to do this analysis. I am not being mean-spirited, but since the Team Obama often cites the high potential for McCain to die soon and Palin does not have enough experience to be the Commander in Chief, I think we should do some SCIENTIFIC analysis,

The maximum "mean" of Obama's parents age is 50 (Father died at 46, Mother died at 53. Total live span=99.) -- If this means anything, Barak Obama only has 3 more years to live, assuming his addiction to cigarette has not causing any health problem.

The minimum "mean" of John McCain's age is 83 (Father died at 70, Mother is 96 and still feisty as ever. Total age=166. ) --- McCain will live another 11 years AT LEAST, if Roberta quit kicking donkies this year.

Either way, it looks like the chance of McCain outlive Obama is GRRRREAT!

Can you use this in GOP campaign? I am sure I am not the only person wondering about their potential life span.


MKS
You are right. The Liberals do NOT try to prove any of her comments are not try because they are true. Instead they call names and attack McCain. For instance, I've seen many of them say something like, "Well, yes, Obama is liberal. But so is McCain and here is the proof. Therefore you should vote for Obama." Makes a lot of sense, doesn't it?

If you are very nice and you repeat yourself many times, sometimes they will give you a straight answer - but you really have to probe for it. And even their straight answers are usually shaded. "Yes, but ..."

I've always been told that calling names is the sign of a small mind. I think most Liberals prove that.

Silver Lion:
In 1968 the Air Force Academy printed the THREE rules the American Communist Party had adopted and were following for take-over of the U.S. They checked with the ACP to insure that they were still in use and were told they were.

1. Destroy the ruggedness of the American people by turning their attention to spectator sports and sex.

2. Take control of all news media to prevent the people from knowing what is going on in the legislative halls and to tear down the image of any natural leader the people might want to follow.

3. Disarm the population through gun control.

Sounds as if SOMEONE is following those rules - and has already acomplished 2 and possibly 1. They are working hard on 3.

.45
Challenge you to prove that one.

Definition
Communism is a socioeconomic structure that promotes the establishment of an egalitarian, classless, stateless society based on common ownership of the means of production and property in general.[1][2][3] Leninists have attempted to produce communist societies by setting up political parties, which in some cases have become governments. These attempts have never produced a communist society, and have frequently led to totalitarian states.[citation needed]

Communism is usually considered to be a branch of socialism, a broad group of social and political ideologies, which draws on the various political and intellectual movements with origins in the work of theorists of the Industrial Revolution and the French Revolution.[4] Communism attempts to offer an alternative to the problems believed to be inherent with capitalist economies and the legacy of imperialism and nationalism. Communism states that the only way to solve these problems is for the working class, or proletariat, to replace the wealthy bourgeoisie, which is currently the ruling class, in order to establish a peaceful, free society, without classes, or government.[2] The dominant forms of communism, such as Leninism, Stalinism, Maoism and Trotskyism are based on Marxism, but non-Marxist versions of communism (such as Christian communism and anarchist communism) also exist.


To Jack in PA.....
"the following "Current Communist Goals," which she identifies as an excerpt from "The Naked Communist," by Cleon Skousen:
[From "The Naked Communist," by Cleon Skousen]"

"It has no connection to actual communists or to communism." (YOUR comments)

Oh really?


Stealth Bomber
Obama is a stealth bomber for socialism and maybe communism, flying under cover of radar, ready to drop the payload. Combined with his megalomaniac tendencies with his love for giant crowd events, get ready for scary times and large posters of him all over our cities like the dictators have in third world countries. You can see the posters when you stand in a soup line.

Okay, we'll take just one or two
"* offered questionable “support” for the Second Amendment “right to bear arms” – as long as it isn’t in self-defense..."

Fascist regimes and democracies (Japan, Taiwan) as well as communist states ban fire arms. Banning fire arms doesn't make one per se a communist.

"* proposed his version of “from each according to his ability, to each according to his need;” (plumbers – plumbers, for pity’s sake, should pay more taxes???)"

High taxes doesn't make one a communist either as Sweden's top rate in the 1970s was nearly 90%.

I could take Bush's policies and make him appear to be a Nazi too, but it doesn't make him one now does it?


Jack #27
Hey kiddo...what do you mean we're losing? This ain't a football game in the first quarter or something. The only score they keep is the one that's run up on November 4th.

Oh it'll be close alright because so many people want things given to them these days because they can't figure out who pays for everything in the long run. The 59% who consider themselves center right in this country will not sit idly by while your communist, socialist, unqualified, lying, baby-killing, redistributing, wealth spreading, vote stealing, half-white man will have lost.

Come the 5th you'll all be crying foul and saying Oblahma lost because we're all racists and busting up the place. You'll never get it through your thick skulls that the haves will never sit by while they have-nots try to steal their money at the ballot box. Fortunately there are still more productive citizens in this country than non. It's not that people don't care about those less fortunate than them - it's just they will not stand by and allow the gov't to force them to support them. I give where I can but my family comes first.

You guys just keep pushing and there's gonna be a backlash - as Hussein will be finding out soon.

Obama the Unifierist
He's not a Communist.

He just espouses all of the things Communists espouse.

The author is obviously racist.

Obama is a unifier. See how he is unifying the country right now. Lot's of soothing words. None of his dozens of alliances with radicals mean anything. He's a tax-cutter, not a tax-raiser. He will create wealth, not destroy it. He will follow and enforce those principles of the Constitution that he approves of. His disciples all know this, and they aren't racists.

Akagi, #105
of course, if you take one policy at a time you cannot call Obama a commie. What we are talking about here is the whole sum of policies and associations that make Obama a commie.

Is your real name Arkadiy?

Don Juan certainly you jest
McCain being born to American citizens on a American military post is less of right to American citizenship then someone supposedly born outside the U.S. to parents of questionable citizenship status? Furthermore that any American citizen does not have a vested legal interest in seeing that American constitutional law is upheld?

Your going to have to explain that one to me as to why that makes sense in a legal way.

Personaly I dont think the rumors are true that Obamas citizenship status is in question, but if the situation were as described by the above paragraph, then merely dismissing it as a right wing non issue would be intelectually dishonest.

Another one
"* attended a church led by a racist, black supremacist, anti-American bigot;"

That wouldn't make you a communist, it could make you a Nazi, if the "master race" was now black instead of Aryan. The communists didn't view race as a legitimate construct--only one construct was important--class. Going to a racist church doesn't make you a communist--are the Aryan Brotherhood communists? Being anti-American doesn't make you a communist either. Is the League of the South communist? Many in the Alaska Independence Party (who favor secession) communist? Aryan Nations who call the US the Zionist Occupied Government? How about some of the most far, loons in the anti-Abortion movement who have called for "patriots" to get nuclear weapons and use them against the US.

Anti-Americanism is not just for communists.

lipstick
Taken in whole or in part, Obama is no communist.

And no, my name is not.

Doug:

Since he was born to an American woman who had lived in the US for the required amount of years (five) and which two of them were after she was the age of 14 that thus makes Obama a US citizen no matter if he had been born in downtown Pyongyang.

Akagi let me be
clear I dont believe there is an issue with Obamas citizenship status.

My question is that if it were true that there was a issue of citizenship how would that not be a concern of every citizen of the U.S. and how if the situation were correct as stated in my first paragraph, exactly how would it be that Obama would have more of a right to citizenship then McCain?

Don Juan has not even attempted to correct the issue just dismiss peoples concern out of hand. If a person wants honest debate then debate honestly.

Palmer Exposes Obama lie

During the Cold War, Palmer supported the Soviet Union and spoke against the United States.

In the 1980s she served as an executive board member of the U.S. Peace Council, which the FBI identified as a Communist front group (and which was an affiliate of the World Peace Council, an international Soviet front).

In the mid-1990s, Palmer attended a number of political meetings at the Chicago-area home of her friends and ideological allies, former Weatherman terrorists Bill Ayers and his wife Bernardine Dohrn.

At those gatherings, Palmer developed a friendly relationship with another attendee, a young aspiring politician named Barack Obama.

As Palmer prepared to leave the state senate and run for the US Congress, she hand-picked Barack Obama as the person she most wanted to fill her newly vacated senate seat.

Toward that end, she introduced Obama to party elders and donors as her preferred successor, and helped him gather the signatures required for getting his name placed on the ballot.

Alice Palmer was defeated in the Congressional race and asked Barack Obama to withdraw from the race for her former seat.

Obama refused to withdraw so she ran against him and gathered the necessary signatures on her petition.

Obama promptly challenged the legitimacy of those signatures and charged Palmer with fraud.

A subsequent investigation found that a number of the names on Palmer’s signature list were invalid, thus she was knocked off the ballot.

“I liked Alice Palmer a lot, I thought she was a good public servant." Barack Obama
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Barack Obama will discard anyone when he is finished using them. I wonder how he would have treated her if he didn't like her?

HAMAS and Obama

Ali Abunimah is a Palestinian American who co-founded Electronic Intifada, a website that seeks to discredit what it deems “the prevailing pro-Israeli slant in U.S. media coverage by offering information from a Palestinian perspective.” With close ties to the International Solidarity Movement, Electronic Intifada refers to Israel’s 1948 creation as Al Nakba (Arabic for “The Catastrophe”).

In the late 1990s, Abunimah met Barack Obama for the first time when the latter was a representative in the Illinois state senate. “He [Obama] impressed me as progressive, intelligent and charismatic,” says Abunimah. “I distinctly remember thinking, ‘if only a man of this caliber could become president one day.’”

In 2001 and 2002, the Woods Fund of Chicago, whose board of directors included Barack Obama, made grants totaling $75,000 to Abunimah’s AAAN.

In January 2008, Abunimah told interviewer Amy Goodman: “I knew Barack Obama for many years as my state senator -- when he used to attend events in the Palestinian community in Chicago all the time.

I remember personally introducing him onstage in 1999, when we had a major community fundraiser for the community center in Deheisha refugee camp in the occupied West Bank. And that’s just one example of how Barack Obama used to be very comfortable speaking up for and being associated with Palestinian rights and opposing the Israeli occupation.”


Frank Marshall Davis - Barrack Obama Men

There is an old Spanish saying.
“Tell me who you walk with, and I will tell you WHO YOU ARE!”

"I chose my friends carefully. The more politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos. The Marxist professors and structural feminists and punk-rock performance poets." - Barack Obama (Dreams of My Father)

When Barack Obama was about 10 years old his maternal grandfather thought that Obama needed a black man as a role model for his grandson - he chose Frank Marshall Davis.

1) Communist writer and poet (1905-1987)

2) Dedicated supporter of the Soviet Union and enemy of America.

Frank Marshall Davis (1905-1987) was a black poet and writer (he wrote for the Honolulu Record, a Communist newspaper), and a known member of the Soviet-controlled Communist Party USA (CPUSA).

Davis was identified unequivocally as a CPUSA member in a 1951 report of the Commission on Subversive Activities to the Legislature of the Territory of Hawaii (CSALTH), which, along with HUAC, also charged that Davis was affiliated with a number of communist-front organizations.

Davis penned many poems during his lifetime. One of them, titled "To the Red Army," hailed the Soviet revolution and condemned the "rich industrialists" in Washington DC and London who allegedly wanted Hitler and the Nazis to "wipe Communism from the globe."

Davis also wrote poems deriding traditional Christianity. In some of these compositions, Davis called Christ "a Dixie Ni**er" who was nothing more than "another New White Hope"; he derided Christians as hypocrites "who buy righteousness like groceries"; and he spoke of Africans being killed with a "Christian gun" by missionaries following "the religion of Sweet Jesus," rather than by a spear.


Sam Webb disagrees with Akaqi

"...Moreover, it is ready to strike the first and absolutely necessary blow in a few weeks, that is, to elect Barack Obama and bigger majorities in the House and Senate by a landslide..."

Author: Sam Webb, National Chair, Communist Party USA
First published 09/27/2008 17:43

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"..marxism also says that state is an arena of struggle.

While the ruling class employs the state apparatus, including violence when necessary, to impose its interests on society, a united working class and people can successfully resist these measures from within as well as outside state structures.

This was done in the 1930s and in so doing, secured important victories for the nation’s working class and its allies.

It was also done in the 1960s and in doing so brought down the system of legal segregation. And we see it again today in the incredible efforts of millions of working people of all races and nationalities and their allies to elect Barack Obama and larger Democratic Party Congressional majorities in November.

Indeed, it is a task that takes on even greater significance given the financial storm that is shaking our country."

Author: Sam Webb, National Chair,
Communist Party USA
First published 09/23/2008 17:20



Some of us will have to die...
for the cause of freedom...

For Obama is a tyrant in waiting and if you've read any of the hateful, moronic, imbecilic thngs that ...

Obama trolls have written...

then the hadwriting should be on the wall...

Its...

time to make sure the powder is dry...

Only fools
Don Juan:

8 USC 1403 is pretty clear on this point. McCain is a "natural born" US ciitzen and thus he is eligible to be President of the United States.


"C-word" charge helps Obama
I see Laura Hollis has just started posting columns on Townhall within the past month or so. Ms. Hollis, you wouldn't happen to be a "mole" or agent provocateur for the Obama campaign, would you? I wonder, because this business of calling left-wing liberal Obama a "Communist"-- implying, a supporter of total nationalization of the economy, one-party dictatorship, and mass murder-- has the potential to help the Obama campaign far more than McCain's.

Nobody who was remotely likely ever to vote for Obama is going to believe the "Communist" charge. But if Obama supporters pick up on this and headline, "Right-Wing Website Calls Obama a Communist!" they can present this-- along with the allegations of "kill him" shouts at McCain rallies and the like-- as proof that opponents of Obama are frantic, desperate, "McCarthyist" and even deranged. And thereby influence independents against McCain-- and discredit *legitimate* arguments against voting for Obama. (I personally think there are plenty of legitimate reasons to vote against Obama. Unfortuantely, there are also plenty of legitimate reasons to vote against McCain.)

Egon
I find it interesting that as a conservative you set up shop in a country governed by people who are explicitly socialists.


45caliber: Are you suggesting that before communism people weren't interested in sex? Are the NFL and the NBA communist fronts? What about NASCAR?

Hate to say it butt he isn't a communist
He is though a Saul Alinsky trined socialist, sometimes its hard to tell them apart. His training is more in line with the NSDP in Germany 1930's which gave us the brownshirts (Obama's Civilian National force), Adolph Hitler (Mein Kampf/ObamaDreams from my father/audacity of hope (both probably written by AYERS) and whatever indoctrination he got from the New Party. But he is a Socialist Leftist, not quite communist.

USPatriot56....

Let us hope, against reason, that it does not come to that pass.

When the going gets tough, most of these soft pink babies will
change their minds as soon as they get really hungry, or face
harsh reality, whichever comes first.

24 hours?

Geek
Pure communism doesn't recognize race as a legitimate construct, but even using the CPUSA terms, being in a racist church would not make you a communist, if it did the KKK and various Aryan groups would be communists now wouldn't they?


Communist Goals for America since 1963

I have the 45 goals the Communists have for America, that was read into the Congressional Record in 1963. You will be amazed at how the Communists have succeeded by 2008 - 45 years later. I have listed five (5) examples
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Communist Goals (1963) Congressional Record--Appendix, pp. A34-A35 January 10, 1963
Current Communist Goals EXTENSION OF REMARKS OF HON. A. S. HERLONG, JR. OF FLORIDA IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES Thursday, January 10, 1963 .

16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.

17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.

24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.

25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.

26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."

http://HISfacts.blogtownhall.com/2008/08/18/communists_45_g oals_in_1963.thtml



Akaqi et al

Your declarations are meaningless.

Who cares what you think or theorize about Marxism??

Vote for Obama-Marxism if you will.

Albert Herlong
And was he a member of the communist party so he would actually know the goals? Also, care to post a link that is not from some wacko's blog entry? Like maybe an official government site.


Cleon Skousen
I revise my remarks what does Cleon Skousen know about the goals of the communist party since he we assume was not one. Many of the goals he wrote down seem to be typical conservative boiler plate rather than the goals of say the CP of the USSR or the CCP, etc.

Akagi, #111
Yes, Obama is not a member of the Communist Party, he understands that nobody would vote for him inh this case. But neither was Lenin who was a member of a fraction of the Russian Social-Democratic Labor Party - bol'shevik. And nobody called him communist at the time of the Great October Socialist Revolution (again, it was not called Communist revolution) that was interestingly celebrated on November 7 in Soviet Union. I know it was because of the calendar change, I am just pointing at striking similarity- Nov 4 and Nov 7. But Lenin was a Marxist as Obama is. And Soviet Union was not a communist country even in 80s, they called it an era of developed socialism. "From everybody by ability, to everybody by needs" was a goal not a reality. But it was not a problem for the leaders to call themselves communists.
Communists have evolved since 1917 and we are not going to witness the Great November Socialist Revolution. They are not going to come a power by revolution but they are going to destroy capitalism from inside taking over media, schools, etc. which we are witnessing right now.
The problem with Obama is that he doesn't reveal who he is. He knows that he can't. He denies his connections and associations until he is in the corner. Thanks to the conservative media we are now putting the pieces of the puzzle together.

Barack Obama's Suppression of Dissent

Barack Obama claims 'All Citizens are Equal', but some are 'More Equal Than Others' by Affirmative Action' and Patriots MUST be willing to 'Sacrifice for the Common Good'. A look at History tells us that we have heard that from Socialists before.
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The German Workers' Party name was changed by Hitler to include the term National Socialist. Thus the full name was the National Socialist German Workers' Party (Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei or NSDAP) called for short, Nazi.

Some of Hitler's demands:
-------------------------

22. We demand the abolition of the regular army and the creation of a national (folk) army.

23. We demand that there be a legal campaign against those who propagate deliberate political lies and disseminate them through the press. In order to make possible the creation of a German press, we demand:

Newspapers transgressing against the common welfare shall be suppressed. We demand legal action against those tendencies in art and literature that have a disruptive influence upon the life of our folk, and that any organizations that offend against the foregoing demands shall be dissolved.

COMMON GOOD BEFORE INDIVIDUAL GOOD
-----------------------------------

I am NOT comparing Barack Obama to Hitler.

I AM comparing Barack Obama to history and his suppression of anyone who speaks against Obama or his agenda.

Most, if NOT all Liberals think Marxist/Socialism cannot do ANY HARM - history refutes that claim.

Barack Obama will bring Marxism/Socialism to America.

Don Juan Not shocking
That some would try to find McCain a non natural citizen. In fact I think its right in line with politics as usual.

As to the legal fine points of the law I too will let see what the courts have to say about it.

Who is Michael Klonsky?

Did Barack Obama chose the choose the bloggers on his Campaign Website carefully?

Michael Klonsky (born 1943) is an American educator and political activist, a leader of the New Communist Movement.

Michael Klonsky, whose disgust for mainstream politics led him to launch a new, Maoist Communist Party in the 1970s, today supports Barack Obama so enthusiastically that until recently he was blogging on the Illinois senator’s Official campaign website.

“My own support for Obama is not a reflection of a radically changed attitude toward the Democratic Party, rather, it’s a recognition that the Obama campaign has become a rallying point for young activists and offers hope for rebuilding the civil rights and antiwar coalitions that have potential to become a real critical force in society.” Michael Klonsky.

Michael Klonsky is the former leader of SDS - Students for a Democratic Society.

wolf in sheeps clothing
Obama is just following the rules for radicals. Saul Alinsky wrote that the way to take over is to come from within. let the middle class do the work, do it quietly, no revolutions, no violence, just words. read it and weep.

Conservative commentators...
are throwing terms like socialist, Marxist, and now communist around a lot lately. You sound desperate. You should look in the mirror. Conservatives are a bit socialist themselves. Bush and the Republican party have effectively embraced socialism with bailouts and farm subsidies and prescription drug benefit and Sarbanes/Oxley and much, much more. But that's happened before under the likes of other socialistic Republicans such as Nixon, Hoover and Theodore Roosevelt. Conservatives unfortunately idolize the government no less than leftists. For them it's the embodiment of God on earth.

Why did Obama choose Carl Davidson?
Who is Carl Davidson - who helped organize the rally in 2002 where the featured speaker was Barack Obama?

Carl Davidson, who was one of SDS’s three elected national officers in 1968.

1) Marxist anti-war activist.

2) Former member of Students for a Democratic Society.

3) Political supporter of Barack Obama.


Carl Davidson joined Michael Klonsky (leader of the New Communist Movement) in rejecting traditional politics for fringe Marxist movements.

More recently, he helped organize the 2002 rally in which Obama first spoke out against the Iraq War and now serves as the webmaster of Progressives for Obama.

In 1992 Davidson became a leader of the newly formed Committees of Correspondence, a Marxist coalition of former Maoists, Trotskyists, and Communist Party USA members.

The organization has since changed its name to the 'Committees of Correspondence for Democracy and Socialism', where Davidson remains a prominent figure.

Davidson was a major player in the Chicago branch of the 'New Party', a Marxist political coalition.

Most New Party members hailed from the 'Committees of Correspondence', 'the Democratic Socialists of America', and the militant leftist organization ACORN.

Carl Davidson first met Barack Obama through the 'New Party', which endorsed the Barack Obama in his run for the Illinois state senate in 1996.

Obama had actively sought this endorsement, and he used a number of New Party volunteers as campaign workers.

Why did Obama choose Tim Wheeler?

Tim Wheeler is a National Board member of the Communist Party USA (CPUSA), and has been a key figure in the party's Baltimore chapter since the early 1970s.

From 1991 to 2003 he was editor of the CPUSA newspaper People's Weekly World, and he currently serves as the publication's national political correspondent.

In 2008 Wheeler became a prominent figure in Barack Obama’s presidential campaign.

He helped organize local canvassing and visibility events for Barack Obama, and he chronicled his experiences on the campaign trail in a blog that appeared on the Obama campaign website.

Obama's Sacrifice for the Common Good

The idea that 'Sacrifice For The Common Good' supersedes private interests and rights can have but one meaning: that the interests and rights of some 'Collectivist Group' take precedence over the interests and rights of others.

Anyone who has ever studied Game Theory in mathmatics has heard about 'Zero Sum Theory'.

One of the things I learned in Game Theory was that 'zero sum' is an interaction in which one participant's gains result only from another's equivalent losses.

When Liberals and Democrats (collectivists) institute their solutions like 'Affirmative Action', the rights they give to the 'collectivist group' in favor, results in taking rights from others who are in dis-favor or in other words "moral equivalence".

Every United States Citizen should have the same rights and protections under the United States Constitution and Bill of Rights - no more - no less.

Liberals and Democrats believe this "moral equivalence" promotes justice and the well being of the American Citizen and displays the Liberal "moral superiority" over Conservatives.

Barack Obama's clarion call to "Sacrifice for the Common Good" - to redistribute wealth, as Obama said to 'Joe the Plumber', "letting those behind catch up".

Karl Marx's slogan, 'from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs'.

Someone explain the difference?

The NAACP Supports the "C" Word
The NAACP supports both "C" Words.
After the election they plan to change one word in their logo from one c to the other c.

Dictionary.com http://dictionary.reference.com/search?

Rac•ism
A policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.

Dis•crim•i•na•tion
Something that serves to differentiate.

Does this represent racism, discrimination or indifference?
THE NAACP
IS TODAY
National Association for the
Advancement of Colored People

Or Does this represent racism?

THE NAAWP
IS TODAY
National Association for the
Advancement of White People

That bad word “WHITE” sure changes the meaning of the slogan to a bad thing, such magic.

Now, now before you start calling me names you need to know if I am White or Black.

Your choices are:
• That racist White Honkey!
• That trader Uncle Tom!

It is a miracle how “white” trumps all to equal automatic racism no matter the statement or question about OBAMA or OCOMMIE.

If the NAACP really represents all people, then “Dump the C” and dump Obama.

"Messiah"
Urgent!!!
An important report:
"A Messiah Manufactured by Marxism"(The United Socialist States of America) by Judi McCleod, October 16, 2008
Details at:
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/5600

Which Team Do You Want?
Obama's -

Joe Biden
Rev Wright
Franklin Raines
William Ayers
Jim Johnson
Howard Dean

McCain's -

Sarah Palin
Mitt Romney
Steve Forbes
Joe Lieberman
Rudy Guilani
Michael Steele

Which team do you want running our country?

Well, What Next?
OK, call it what it is…Communism...Right! It has been coming and is here, now, as Ms Hollis notes. Further she says, “…communism depends upon arrogance, ignorance, deceit, and complicity. Are you talking about US families and children who might be happy with meeting Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs through Communism as opposed to being lied to under the current administration?
“Shame on your greed and shame your wicked schemes. I don’t give a damn about your pleas,” Bob Dylan (Modern Times).
Well, I encourage all you Libertarians to post what you intend to do about this current state of affairs. I don’t believe that you’ll be able to stop it, so how do you propose to profit from it? Clue: Start reading Time Magazine Archives, http://www.time.com/time/magazine/0,9263,7601230317,00.htm l
Best Wishes Comrade.

Obama obfuscates Tax on Small Business

Barack Obama will only tax those small businesses that make more than $250,000 a year.

Barack Obama knows he is speaking to his followers who think with feelings and not facts, logic and reason.

Obama followers think small businesses are a 'Mom and a Pop' shop, when in fact many small businesses have hunderds of employees and millions in income..

What is a small business as defined by the 'Small Business Adminastration'?
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For SEC purposes, small businesses are defined as domestic companies with revenues of under $25 million, and not investment companies. Subsidiaries of larger companies do not qualify as small businesses.

A small business is an concern that is organized for profit, with a place of business in the United States, and which operates primarily within the United States or makes a significant contribution to the U.S. economy through payment of taxes or use of American products, materials or labor.

Further, the concern cannot be dominant in its field, on a national basis. Finally, the concern must meet the numerical small business size standard for its industry. SBA has established a size standard for most industries in the U.S. economy. The most common size standards are as follow:

500 employees for most manufacturing and mining industries

100 employees for all wholesale trade industries

$7.0 million for most retail and service industries

$33.5 million for most general & heavy construction industries

$14.0 million for all special trade contractors

$0.75 million for most agricultural industries

http://www.sba.gov/services/contractingopportunities/sizest andardstopics/index.html

http://www.sba.gov/services/contractingopportunities/sizest andardstopics/faqs/index.html

Akagi
Was Lenin mistaken when he said, "The goal of socialism is communism?"

The C-word
God bless you for finally speaking the truth about the evil in waiting behind the Obama campaign.
John in MA

The "C" Word
You hit the nail smack dab on the head!!

Remember ....
most of these kids who adore Obama have gone to schools that implemented ...

COOPERATIVE LEARNING ...

which is really COMMUNISM in the classroom...

One or two students do all the work and the rest of the students get the grade .... so

they have already been brainwashed to believe ...

a) I don' have to do the work ... I'll get the grade

or ....

b) I'll do the work and give everybody will share my grade...

You can bet that most of Obama's legions were the ones NOT doing the work...

just "spreding the grade around" man ...

just "spreading the grade around"...

But Has He KILLED Anyone?
It would only matter if he himself has ever been proven to have actually killed a human being, which the Soviet communists did regularly. It would only matter if he had participated in divulging information to our enemies the way the Rosenbergs have clearly been proven to have been doing for the Soviets. And they were rightfully executed because what they did harmed our country and threatened the lives of millions of innocent American lives.

But to say someone is a communist based on the fact that he has associated himself with an old hippie who blew up police cruisers like all the hippies were doing back then, it's a little hard to prove, isn't it? Or that he was in the pews of a pastor who probably isn't that much better than any of those church pastors who decided to defy the federal government and threaten their parishoners with eternal damnation if they didn't vote the way THEY wanted them to, it's a little hard to swallow.

The P word again
It must be asked, how is what Obama advocates any different in principle than what McCain advocates? The only difference is the absolute amount of dollars, if that. They both want mandatory national service, they both believe in the global warming religion, they both believe in bailouts and whatever pragmatic--yes, Ms. Hollis, pragmatic--"compromises" they deem necessary to quell a crisis. The list goes on and on.

It's not too late to wake up
It's not too late to try to wake up the Americans who are the reason that Obama is leading in the polls. Do we really want out country being run by a man who wants to control every aspect of our lives? We've got to spread the word about what kind of man Barack Obama really is. Say no to the leftist illuminati that is Barack Obama.

The List of Saints is Incomplete
Amen to the thrust of your article.

But your list of Communist patron saints should include Che Guevarra, Ho Chi Minh, and Kim (the father) Il Sung.

Also, the documented involvement of a sitting Senator Obama with the political campaign in Kenya is a serious omission to the litany of wrong doings. This case is more acute as the guy advocated implementatio of Sharia law. Which indicates how dangerous BHO is based on the alliances he is capable of making.

Thank You, Retired Geek

You bring so much valued information to the table. We thank you, Retired Geek.

Would you consider taking this vast information to a news outlet? or maybe you already have.

We cannot thank you enough for the insights you share. It is difficult to hear you confirm much of what conservatives fear. However, this information needs to get to a news dissemination outlet.

Please at least consider contacting news outlets with your knowledge and sources.

Again, you have been very helpful.

And.....to 7sticks.....William Ayres set bombs in the Pentagon and Capitol Building and Armed Services recruiting stations, etc. Seven people were murdered. He got off on technicalities.

McCain and Palin in 2008!


Poland Feels Our Pain
Great article. My colleague in Poland says that the Poles fear that America is being socialized! He says that's not good for us or for them. He should know. Let's keep in mind the following:

"The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under the name of 'liberalism' they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing how it happened." Norman Thomas, Socialist Party Presidential Candidate in 1940, 1944 and 1948, co-founder of the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU).

Controlling the Media Even More?
When the switch from analog to digital T,V. goes into effect,does that mean they'll have even more control over what they want us to see or not to see? That is my question. I have the creepy feeling it will be watching us.Why does everything have to be under surveilance anyway?

Randy Quaid in "Independence Day"
"Ain't I been sayin' it, Miguel? Ain't I been sayin' it?"

This has been my point in my not-well-circulated blog for months now. And John McCain's failure to come out IN THE DEBATE and challenge Obama on this point is nearly criminal.

YOU SAID IT LIKE IT IS
I hope somehow, we Americans who "get it" -- can keep it from becoming so. The communist agenda COUNTS on us not knowing what hit us. Unfortunately, at least half the country is clueless. (according to the polls)-- I'm praying that McCain will pull it out like Truman did. We'll get a short delay at least.

Is it too late?
It seems so obvious to me...but if others haven't gotten it by now...then what can be done? It is absolutely the most frustrating and infuriating time of my life. I guess people see what they want to see, and no matter what you present as facts they refuse to even listen to reason. So be it!

Jupiter aligns with MARX
This is just what I have been doing. I have even written to McCain campaign
and told them to stop "Hinting" at what Obama is, and that he will re-distribute your income and retirement funds.

The Economy is not the most important thing in this election, its whether you have an economy, and the American Flag still flies over the Capital.

This article tells you what is coming if Obama is elected. Having worked with and talked to people who still had Tatooed Numbers on their arms from Nazi prison camps to those who lived under Communism in Russia, they are amazed that for the promise of a few scheckels, and free everything, as was done under Communism in the past, that the people in the United States, especially the young who were indoctrinated by Professors like Willaim Ayers are now willng to Vote for a person who will destroy evrything
our forefathers,grandfathers,and fathers fought against in past Wars.

I don't envy anyone just starting out in Life with young Families, who are swayed by Obama enough to believe and Vote for him.

Look at what you have, and worked for now, Property, Money, Possessions. Picture having to give 50 % or more to someone else who did not earn it or to someone who will flood the Borders under a Democrat President.

Look at what some people had in Germany prior to Hitler. What happened to their possessions, what happened to their lives., Same goes for Russia, Cuba.

History does repeat itself. Don't be fooled or focused on the Candidate just because he is Black.

Focus on his Ideology. Believe him that he will take all you worked for and give it to someone else, not just in Taxes;but physically.

Hollis is right.
But so what, her disingenuousness undermines the impact of her words.

Finally!
Someone said what many conservatives have been thinking. Even if you forget the tax hikes and the "spread the wealth" philosophy, the turnaround of support for Israel under a President Obama will sink us! God save democracy and the United States of America that we know and love today!!

Jeremy:
What do you mean "finally!" Many people, myself included, have pointed out that Obama is a Marxist, and McCain is a socialist. What is so special about Hollis tagging Obama with the dreaded "C" word?

IF IT LOOKS LIKE A DUCK AND QUACKS
WHAT DO DEMOCRATS WANT?


.....They want COMMUNISM ...and what better way to
accomplish that ...than by sabotaging FREE ENTERPRISE
& CAPITALISM ...

.....If the DEMOCRATS can convince enough voters that
free markets do not work ...by voting against all
development of Fossil Fuels and Nuclear Power ...so
that the economy is on the verge of collapse ...then
they can "SAVE THE DAY" with SOCIALIST programs that end up as COMMUNIST programs...

.....One doesn't have to be a card carrying member of the COMMUNIST PARTY to use the same methods to achieve the same results ...

.....POLONIUS: "Though this be maddness, yet there is method in't" .....COLOSSUS

THE NAKED COMMUNIST - PART ONE
...Exerpted from "The Naked Communist" by Cleon
Skousen http://www.nationmakers.com/com_goals.htm

1. U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only
alternative to atomic war.


2. U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to
engaging in atomic war.

3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by]
the United States would be a demonstration of moral
strength.

4. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of
Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not
items could be used for war.

5. Extension of long-term loans to Russia and Soviet
satellites.

6. Provide American aid to all nations regardless of
Communist domination.

7. Grant recognition of Red China. Admission of Red
China to the U.N.

8. Set up East and West Germany as separate states in
spite of Khrushchev's promise in 1955 to settle the
German question by free elections under supervision of
the U.N.

9. Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because
the United States has agreed to suspend tests as long
as negotiations are in progress.

10. Allow all Soviet satellites individual
representation in the U.N.

11. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If
its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as
a one-world government with its own independent armed
forces. (Some Communist leaders believe the world can
be taken over as easily by the U.N. as by Moscow.
Sometimes these two centers compete with each other as
they are now doing in the Congo.)

12. Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party.

13. Do away with all loyalty oaths.

14. Continue giving Russia access to the U.S. Patent
Office.

15. Capture one, or both, of the political parties in
the United States. .....COLOSSUS

The Big Lie
If Americans knew the full extent of what Obama intends for the US, they would turn out in force to vote for McCain. Obama's obfuscation of his goals, affiliations, and background is accomplished by appealing to a nation's shallow, mindless obsession with celebrity and political correctness. If we want to know the future, we must look to the past. Yes, it CAN happen here just as it did in Cuba, Germany ("They won't bother us. We have a business, pay our taxes, and have wealth." -- Quote from a German Jew murdered by the Nazis), Austria, eastern Europe...
Put a frog in boiling water and he will jump out immediately; put a frog in a bucket of cold water and slowly bring it to a boil, he'll die before he knows what happened.
Let's not be put into a bucket of cold water.

THE NAKED COMMUNIST - PART TWO
...Democrats and
Environmentalists might not call themselves Communists
but they use Communist techniques in their quest to
take over the Country. ...

...Exerpted from "The Naked Communist" by Cleon
Skousen http://www.nationmakers.com/com_goals.htm



16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken
basic American institutions by claiming their
activities violate civil rights.

17. Get control of the schools. Use them as
transmission belts for socialism and current Communist
propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of
teachers' associations. Put the party line in
textbooks.

18. Gain control of all student newspapers.

19. Use student riots to foment public protests
against programs or organizations which are under
Communist attack.

20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review
assignments, editorial writing, policymaking
positions.

21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and
motion pictures.

22. Continue discrediting American culture by
degrading all forms of artistic expression. An
American Communist cell was told to "eliminate all
good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute
shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms."

23. Control art critics and directors of art museums.
"Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive,
meaningless art."

24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling
them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and
free press.

25. Break down cultural standards of morality by
promoting pornography and obscenity in books,
magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV. .....COLOSSUS

THE NAKED COMMUNIST - PART THREE
...Exerpted from "The Naked Communist" by Cleon
Skousen http://www.nationmakers.com/com_goals.htm

26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity
as "normal, natural, healthy."

27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed
religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible
and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which
does not need a "religious crutch."

28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious
expression in the schools on the ground that it
violates the principle of "separation of church and
state."

29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it
inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern
needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a
worldwide basis.

30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present
them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the
"common man."

31. Belittle all forms of American culture and
discourage the teaching of American history on the
ground that it was only a minor part of the "big
picture." Give more emphasis to Russian history since
the Communists took over.

32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized
control over any part of the culture -- education,
social agencies, welfare programs, mental health
clinics, etcetera.

33. Eliminate all laws or procedures which interfere
with the operation of the Communist apparatus.

34. Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American
Activities.

35. Discredit, and eventually dismantle, the FBI. .....COLOSSUS

THE NAKED COMMUNIST - PART FOUR
...Exerpted from "The Naked Communist" by Cleon
Skousen http://www.nationmakers.com/com_goals.htm


36. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.

37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business.

38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the
police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral
problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but
psychiatrists can understand [or treat].

39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental
health laws as a means of gaining coercive control
over those who oppose Communist goals.

40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage
promiscuity and easy divorce.

41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the
negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices,
mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive
influence of parents.

42. Create the impression that violence and
insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American
tradition; that students and special-interest groups
should rise up and use ["]united force["] to solve
economic, political or social problems.

43. Overthrow all colonial governments before native
populations are ready for self-government.

44. Internationalize the Panama Canal.

45. Repeal the Connally reservation so the United
States cannot prevent the World Court from seizing
jurisdiction [over domestic problems. Give the World
Court jurisdiction] over nations and individuals
alike.

...It looks like a Duck to me ...the next President
should honor our founders by burning the Constitution
in a public ceremony to show that they are no longer
responsible for our present form of government
.....COLOSSUS

OF RAPISTS AND LOVERS

....."The top rate in Sweden in 1976 was 89%, in the US it was 70%. Was Sweden and the US then communist. Redistribution of the wealth doesn't make you a communist."

.....AKAGI ...No, but redistribution of wealth is a Communist principle ...

.....If a Rapist calls himself a lover ...does that make the rape less offensive? ...

.....A Rose by any other name .....COLOSSUS

Oustanding Article
If Obama is elected President, look for the following to take place:

1) Churches lose not-for-profit status.
We've seen how the secular progressives have steadily attempted to halt the impact the church has in America. It has worked in limited ways, but not nearly enough. He will push to make donations non-deductable.

2) The Fairness Doctrine will be enacted to once again limit free speech and dissent.

3) Look for many limitations on the internet, the greatest exhibiter of free speech will be taxed and heavily.

4) Huge amounts of taxes being sent to other Countries - the Global Poverty Act is already in Congress.

5) Huge taxes on the top 5% which will cripple the economy, increase the cost of living and basically break the American economy.

6) Substantially reduce our military spending making our military incapable of fighting anywhere in the world.

7) Hand over a huge portion of U.S. Sovereignty to the U.N. and prop up the U.N. to ushed in a global economy.

8) At some point, America will be so crippled, it will require ushering in a world government.

9) Also look for huge amounts of tax money to go out in the form of slave reparations. This is not designed to say I'm sorry, but to pour massive amounts of money into the hands of his supporters and will begin the national civilian militia.

10) Do away with homeschooling that subverts the ability of government to subvert our children.

11) The main focus should be keeping an eye on Israel. I firmly believe he will not be a friend to Israel but will force Israel into making concessions that will lead to a Seven Year Accord, a peace agreement, a covenant with their enemies. In the middle of that agreement, Israel will be overthrown.

12) The Presidency is just a stepping stone for Obama.

Baseball
So since Sweden, Norway et al system of social democracy was exactly that--redistribution of wealth--were they then using your terms communist?

Not too many colonial governments these days are they? So who decides when then people of these colonies are ready for self-government, the colonial masters? Using that standard the US could still be part of the British Empire.


Michael
"Churches lose not-for-profit status."

For those that use their non-profit status for political purposes in violation ofg IRS rules or use the church as a method to enrich the pastor ans his family--no problem with this at all.

"Look for many limitations on the internet."

Most controls attempted on the Internet have been proposed by so-called conservatives under the guise of "protecting children" and they have time and time again been struck down by the courts. The Communications Decency Act for example was sponsored by a Republican.

"Huge amounts of taxes being sent to other Countries - the Global Poverty Act is already in Congress."

While the Global Povery Act actually doesn't set any actual ODA targets, the .7% figure usually spouted off by people who have not read the act was agreed to by the United States and the other OECD countries in 1970 when resolution 2626 was adopted on October 24, 1970. The OECD countries agreed to reach the .7% of GDP for ODA by 1975, the US has never reached that target and most OECD countries have also failed to reach that target. The target date is now 33 years in the past. The countries that have met the target are: Norway at .95%; Sweden at .93%; Luxembourg at .9%; Denmark and the Netherlands at .81%. The US is tied for last with Greece at .16%.


Norman
"The goal of socialism is communism?"

Marx thought this too, but care to name a single social democracy that made the leap from socialism to communism? Has Sweden, Denmark, Norway, France ever gone to full communism? The answer is no. Marx also thought that the communist revolutions would happen in the developed capitalist economies like Germany and the United Kingdom--but they happened in mostly poor, peasant based societies like China, Russia and Vietnam. Lenin also felt that Imperialism kept the capitalist system afloat--in the short term but would eventually cause the capitalist system to fail. The capitalist countries have shed their colonial empires for quite some time now--unless you support dependency theory and claim they have replaced it with a neo-imperial system--and they are still around aren't they?

If Marx and Lenin were wrong about these major points--and many other things, why do you think they are right about Socialism being the bridge to communism when it has never been? I suppose we haven't given Sweden enough time. It has only been what 50 years or so?

Sad, Sad, Sad,
Its really sad to see conservatives reduced to such a state.

For the last several days people have been posting Leon Skousen's utter fabrication regarding "communist" goals. It was made up out of whole cloth by an old cold warrior. It has nothing to do with communism or any communist party. It is, in short, an outright lie.

Conservatives have clearly abandoned any attempt at grounding their policies or positions in reality. You guys PREFER teh fantasy world.

Barack Obama
"Barack Obama will bring Marxism/Socialism to America."

They aren't the same thing. Will Obama bring Marxism to America? No, of course not and only a total idiot will believe that he will? Will he bring socialism? Depends what you mean by the term--will the US become Sweden circa 1975? No. Will Obama push the US more toward socialism than it is now--he will try--socialized medicine, higher taxes, subsidized education, worker training, etc.

Has Socialism always been harmful. I suppose that depends. Sweden has a higher standard of living than the US because of its socialist policies, but it pays a high price for that standard in the form of limited economic freedom. So I guess it depends where you stand on this point on how harmful socialism has been in this case. Few Swedes I bet would want to junk their entire system for the American one.

Obama is not going to be bringing Maoism to the US--if you want that, you will have to go to Nepal.

Thugacracy Based on the Commie Model
We the people have a lot to look forward to: 1) Ideology that is completely at odds with the intentions of the Fore Fathers, 2) The systemic dismantling of institutions, not in name but in the core reasons for their existence, so as to serve this ideology, 3) A rapid decline from super power status to a large banana-obama republic with Castro-like ideology driving its mediocre accomplishments, and 4) Social upheaval with high risk for violence.

O.
The US has been off the rails in regards to the Framers and Founders vision since I don't know at least April 9, 1865 if not before.

The US is already in decline as a super power and you can blame much of this on George Bush. How many nations that became debtor nations and declined economically remained super powers? The answer is none.


baseballdoc
"Create the impression that violence and
insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition"

"What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms." - Thomas Jefferson (dirty commie)

Remember This!
A young man who isn't a Communist has no heart.An old man who is a Communist has no brain! "If it sounds too good to be true,..."

Interesting.
If anyone actually believes the idiot that wrote this article, what will you do when Obama is the President of the United States and Commander In Chief?

Its time to cool the stupid lies and act with some shred of respect.

Or have you lost all perspective and decency.

It's insane
that myself, friends, family and coworkers all see this as a distinct probability under an Obama administration and yet it would appear the majority of Americans are "all for it." I have been shouting the very same things you bring out in this article as long and as loudly as I can for over a year now. I hope and pray that democracy beats out socialism in this election. NOW GET BACK TO WORK! Millions of illegal immigrants on entitlement programs are depending on YOU!
P.S. It's funny that the lyrics from Pink Floyd's "Sheep" turned out to be more profetic than I thought them to be in my teens...

Hey Slacker!
Don't go away! I just asked you,at the last post,"How old was Obama,in 2001,when Bill Ayers,commiserating with the terrorists,wished he'd done more?! Bill Ayers was also pictured on the cover of some rag-mag not long ago,standing on the American flag!And,by all accounts,it was Ayers,not your beloved,who wrote"Dreams From My Father" As far as I'm concerned,they're one and the same. Would you vote for Ayers? Yes or No?

Hey Slacker!
Don't go away! I just asked you,at the last post,"How old was Obama,in 2001,when Bill Ayers,commiserating with the terrorists,wished he'd done more?! Bill Ayers was also pictured on the cover of some rag-mag not long ago,standing on the American flag!And,by all accounts,it was Ayers,not your beloved,who wrote"Dreams From My Father" As far as I'm concerned,they're one and the same. Would you vote for Ayers? Yes or No?

Caucaus of Power
This is the most straight up, truthful article I have read regarding the Socialist/Communist movement and candidate B. Obama.
It's tentacles stretch far and wide. See the Congressional Progressive Caucas. Communism has always begun with promises of change, ending poverty, looking out for your rights, etc.. always ending up taking our rights from us. NRA, will be no more. Guns will be owned by government's civil military and criminals period. How many children will we be allowed to have? How much of our money will we be able to keep? Abortion rights?, no..forced abortions. This is all so frightening, but it is true. We've been apathetic. It's time to fight with our vote before it's too late. Then, we will need to get this all to the public extensively, without fail. Darkness perishes in the Light. Stop the freedom of choice act that B.Obama swore to PP he will sign. Stop the fairness doctrine or we will lose our freedom of speech and not have the venue even to disclose.

LABELS, LABELS, LABELS

.....AKAGI ...

.....Usually you make sense but today you seem to be inordinately obtuse ...what is your hang up on Sweden? ...

.....If a party implements 75 percent of the Communist Manifesto but calls itself Socialist/ Progressive ...what is the difference between that and being 75 percent Communist? ...

.....Will we ever see the Communism of Stalin and Mao again? ...I doubt it ...but being a litle bit Communist is like being a little bit raped ...

.....COLOSSUS

I have seen this movie too...
Laura, I want to congratulate you on saying it like it is, as someone who came from Cuba and have seen this same exact thing take place, (remember that Castro promised to restore the constitution), I can tell you that you are exactly right about the danger that we face.

Mark Of The Beast 666
I remember seeing a show on the Discovery Channel about the anti-Christ.

It portrayed a man who was so charismatic, handsome and convincing that millions of gullible citizens all over the world, swooned and fell under his spell.

After he became president he quickly destroyed the structure and morals of civilization that had taken thousands of years to build. He savaged his critics and forced all to submit to his will or face death. All citizens were tatooed with the mark of the beast. Jack booted thugs made short work of dissenters.

Hussein Obama has convinced otherwise responsible people that he is the Messiah. They have fallen under his demonic spell and abandoned all critical thought. They have accepted the notion that He, and only He, can deliver us from this Bush created hell-hole into a land of plenty. Citizens have blithely accepted his plan to "spread the wealth" without ever realizing that it is their wealth that he will be spreading.

Hussein Obama has accomplished nothing in his short life except to associate with those who would destroy this country. Never the less, he still commands the adoration of those he will exterminate once he has stolen the election.



Communist Party, USA
Why, then, has the CPUSA wrote glowingly of Obama, stating he will lead the country in a new direction? Do you not think they recognize one of their own???

Be VERY afraid...
for a frightening Obama Timeline

http://www.colony14.net/id41.html

"What Obama would do..." at:

http://www.colony14.net/id35.html

"Obama's 95% tax cut lie" at:

http://www.colony14.net/id52.html

The End is near
Obama will attempt to do exactly what Laura says in this column. Obama will cause civil unrest and use that as an excuse to take our guns. Once our guns are gone it'll be all over. He will continue to make things so bad that people will beg him to help. With the nation in turmoil Islamic Nations will arm Blacks and send in insurgents to assist Farrakhan's thugs in taking America from the Whites and putting Islam in charge. We must encourage our States to secede immediately if Obama is elected before he goes after the guns. The democrats are so blimded by greed that they don't see what's going on and will give Obama free reigns to destroy the nation.