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Friday, May 01, 2009
Jonah Goldberg :: Townhall.com Columnist
Necessary 'Shortcuts'
by Jonah Goldberg
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Regardless of the debatable facts, the real problem is this idea that "taking shortcuts" erodes the character of a people. One hears this constantly, but it is almost invariably asserted rather than demonstrated.

First, this argument assumes society knows about the shortcuts. After all, if the shortcut in question is kept a secret, then it's hard to see how the "character of a people" will be corroded (or that such methods will be used as a "recruiting tool"). Alas, the idea that the government should be able to do things in secret to fight a war is out of vogue today.

The more significant shortcuts are the public ones people can't ignore. Churchill ordered the firebombing of Dresden just 12 weeks before the end of World War II. No one knows for sure how many civilians were burned alive, but tens of thousands surely were, in no small part to deliver a psychological blow to the Germans. If Churchill could have waterboarded a prisoner to avoid that -- or stop the Holocaust -- would one shortcut have been preferable to the other? Why? Or why not? Obama gives no sense he has an answer to such questions. You can ask the same questions about the shortcuts that flattened Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

Did these shortcuts erode the character of the American and British people? If so, how? And what does it say about the "greatest generation" Barack Obama invokes relentlessly? And, again, what of the shortcuts we don't know about?

Churchill was a heroic leader. He did right as best he could in a bloody mess of a war. But he made countless horrible-but-correct decisions in the process. For instance, he refused to warn residents of Coventry that the Nazis were going to bomb, lest he betray the secret that he was listening to Nazi cable traffic. After the war, he advocated the shortcut of summary executions of Nazi officials.

It might seem otherwise, but I'm not making the case for what some people see as torture. I'm simply noting that war is always about shortcuts, all are horrible, some are necessary. If Obama doesn't understand that, let's hope he never has to learn it.

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Jonah Goldberg is editor-at-large of National Review Online.
 
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Hey cris!
If waterboarding isn't torture, why has the United States Government prosecuted so many people for it? Why did Sheriff Parker in San Jacinto Co. Texas and his deputies go to prison for doing it? Why were US Army soldiers court-martialed for it in Vietnam and the Spanish-American War? Why did the US and its allies (Britain and Australia) try and HANG Capt. Mastuo Komei of the Imperial Japanese Army for doing it?

Next you're going to tell me that arson isn't against the law.

You are confused Jack David
Your use of highfalutin analogies misses much of the issue. First and foremost your argument infers that water boarding is torture. This incorrect assumption makes all of your and Obama's gibberish nonsense. If water boarding had never existed and someone in the Obama administrated came up with it: a 20 to 40 second(max)a procedure which results in absolutely no permanent physical to the murderous prisoner- Obama and his leftist radicals would applaud it as representing a wonderful Liberal advancement in intelligence gathering.
Second, People like you and Obama think that when we are kind to evil minded individuals, they will reciprocate in the same way. This expectation is incorrect. These people are not impressed with kindness and only respect strength, anything else is seen as weakness to be taken advantage of. Yes torture, which the United States does not do, is abhorrent. However,thinking that a person, representing no particular Country who is destined to murder as many stranger civilians as he can, under the guise that it will allow him to have sexual relations with 72 virgins, qualifies for the protections prescribed in the Geneva Convention treaty, are delusional idiots.
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