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Friday, June 13, 2008
Fred Thompson :: Townhall.com Columnist
A Supreme Error
by Fred Thompson
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Upon reading the opinion in Boumediene v Bush, one must conclude that the majority knew where they wanted to go and simply had to figure out how to get there. The trip was not a pretty one. How could it be when the justices seemingly wrote a map based on ideas cherry picked from over 400 years of established law and backfilled with justifications to create a new right for alien combatants that Americans themselves do not enjoy?

They could have saved us all a lot of time if they’d told us what was clearly on their minds.

They don’t trust military tribunals to deal with those accused of being enemy combatants, even if the tribunals are following guidelines established by Congress.

That the government has probably detained some prisoners at Guantanamo for longer than they should have.

And that Guantanamo should just be closed.

Though they are willing to give it lip service, they don’t really believe we are at war … at least not a “real” war.

Therefore, they should create a new right for our nation’s enemies commiserate with the displeasure that they and the rest of the “enlightened” people have with this “war,” Guantanamo and the Bush Administration.

At least this approach would have been an honest one and based upon about as much legal justification as the approach they took.

But, instead – as Justice Scalia pointed out in his dissent – they for the first time in our nation’s history, conferred a Constitutional right of habeas corpus on alien enemies detained abroad by our military forces in the course of an ongoing war – a broader right than has been given to our own citizens. The court majority did so acknowledging that they could find no precedent to confer such a right to alien enemies not within sovereign U.S. territory

The majority had simply decided that prior courts had denied such rulings based on “practical considerations.” In other words in prior cases and prior wars it had just been too inconvenient to bestow the right of habeas corpus upon non-citizens in foreign jurisdictions. So, by focusing on what they saw as “practical” instead of those pesky court precedents based upon the issues of citizenship and foreign territory … and the Constitution … the majority reached the conclusion they wanted to, since what is practical is subjective. One can only ponder the state of our nation directed by the subjective instead of the Constitution.

As Chief Justice Roberts pointed out in his dissent, the court strikes down as inadequate the most generous set of protections ever afforded aliens detained by this country as enemy combatants.

Among the problems the majority saw was the prisoner’s limited access to classified information, even though his personal representative is allowed access to it and can summarize it for the accused. Exactly what procedures would pass muster with the majority? Well, this has to be figured out by the habeas court later – and most certainly be challenged in endless rounds of further litigation.

At this stage, no one can really tell the extent to which this decision is going to add to judicial confusion, additional administrative difficulty, time and attention of military personnel or how many more prisoners will be mistakenly released to join the at least 30 who were released from Guantanamo only to return to fight the United States.

In reading the majority opinion I am struck by the utter waste that is involved here. No, not the waste of military resources and human life, although such a result is tragically obvious. I refer to the waste of all those years these justices spent in law school studying how adherence to legal precedent is the bedrock of the rule of law, when it turns out, all they really needed was a Pew poll, a subscription to the New York Times, and the latest edition of “How to Make War for Dummies.”

It is truly stunning that this court has seen fit to arrogate unto itself a role in the most important issue facing any country, self-defense, in a case in which Congress has in fact repeatedly acted. This was not a case where Congress did not set the rules; it did. But the court still decided – in the face of overwhelming precedent to the contrary – to intervene. This decision, or course, will allow for "President Bush Is Rebuffed” headlines, the implication being that the Administration was caught red-handed violating clearly established Constitutional rights when in fact the Administration, and the Congress for that matter, followed guidelines established by the Supreme Court itself in prior cases.

People can disagree over whether Congress got it right, but at least members have to face the voters. What remedy do people have now if they don’t like the court’s decision? None. If that thought is not enough to cause concerned citizens to turn out on Election Day to elect a new president, then I don’t know what will be.

I also find it just a tad ironic that in a case involving habeas corpus, which literally means that one must produce a body (or person) before a court to explain the basis on which that person is being detained, the decision of this court may mean more fallen bodies in the defense of a Constitution some of these justices ignored.

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Why doesn't Congress take away

the SOTUS' jurisdiction with regard to the rights of enemy combatants?

GITMO.
While I AGREE with the U. S. Supreme Court's "GITMO" majority opinion that "all enemy combatants detained during a war, at least insofar as they are confined in an area away from the battlefield, [but] over which the United States exercises 'absolute and indefinite' control, may seek a writ of habeas corpus in federal court," I also AGREE with Chief Justice Roberts (and his fellow dissenters) that the Writ can be suspended in time of war, such as the war on terror that we find ourselves involved in right now, and that suspension power belongs to Congress, such as Congress has exercised in this case, "as the Constitution surely allows Congress to [wield]."

Solution to the problem
There is one way to not have to worry about detainees in Guantanamo or anywhere else. Don't take any prisoners. Leave them on the battlefield in a condition that will not allow them to raise arms against us again.

It is simply amazing to me that our courts seem to be granting rights to anyone whether they are U.S. citizens or not. I think there are basic human rights that should not be violated, and holding someone indefinitely without filing charges against them should be frowned on; but giving enemy combatants access to our court system where trial lawyers will spend millions of taxpayer dollars in legal wrangling just doesn't make sense. Military tribunals under the rules established by Congress should be more than sufficient.
Once again the Supreme Court has made up rights that are not provided in the Constitution and given non-citizens more rights than the citizens they are supposed to protect.

Brilliant
It was a brilliant decision, which reiterated the fact that our Constitution and (more importantly) our Bill of Rights are more important than this President.


Checks and Balances
The federal government is supposed to be characterized by certain checks and balances upon the three branches.

What are the checks on the Supreme Court?

And here is the important point:
If the Supreme Tyrants do not have the self contro to restrict themselves to their stated job, then are we bound to obey their imperical edicts?

And, excuse me, what can these doofuses do if We The People choose to ignore them?

"When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation..." (first paragraph of the Declaration of Independence).

Perhaps it is time.

Enemy within!
Who's side are they on? Our enemies must love this decision, the court will work harder for them then it does for us.
This is the worst call since Roe Vs Wade and almost as deadly.
Makes this buzzard puke!

The Problems
There are several problems that the Bush Admin really has brought upon itself:

1. The "War on Terror" is technically an undeclared war by traditional, legal definition. In other words, just because you call it a "war" doesn't mean it legally is. It's more along the lines of military strikes, which is why they are called "enemy combatants" and not "prisoners of war." That's a very key distinction that leads into my next point

2. Bush should have just followed the guidelines of the Geneva Convention in the first place and it never would've gotten to the SCOTUS. Instead he decided to get cute with how he designated the war and our enemies and it's come back to bite him.

3. There are too many people in Gitmo that have been there way too long. How is it that the Iraqies can hang Saddam within a year and a half of capturing him, but we can't prosecute Gitmo "detainees" within five years? Every aspect of this war has been woefully mismanaged by Bush's band of idiots.

You can hear the crickets
No matter how clear and cogent the truth, the Left refuses to see it if it doesn't fit their world view. Faced with the truth, they remain silent until it slips into oblivion. I really like Fred Thompson's clarity in this article. But, it just doesn't matter to those who agree with the Supreme Court's decision. This is just another example of how the Left ignores overwhelming evidence and precedent in their insane pursuit of changing the world to suit their beliefs. Did I say insane? What else can you call it expecting different results from a failed practice? And, ignoring precedent is a failed judicial practice.

Mike in Renton

"commensurate" not "commiserate"
Please correct error. Senator Thompson's column says, "Therefore, they should create a new right for our nation’s enemies commiserate with the displeasure that they and the rest of the 'enlightened' people have with this 'war,' Guantanamo and the Bush Administration."

Sen. Thompson meant "commensurate" rather than "commiserate." Thanks.

Rethinking the "supreme" court
Maybe the founding fathers never thought the life expectancy would be so long as to have dementia and corruption of the mind to set in as it has for at least 5 of the SOTUS.

.......
-----It was a brilliant decision, which reiterated the fact that our Constitution and (more importantly) our Bill of Rights are more important than this President.-----

Your ignorance knows no bounds. You should probably stick to fondling goats instead of displaying your idiocy. The SCOTUS ruled half a century ago that unlawful combatants are not entitled to habeas corpus. But what do you expect from the leftist degenerates on the supreme court who voted in favor of a communist law: Kelo.

This country is so over
I don't know how long it will take, but we have built the foundations for the sure collapse of this once great nation, the USA.

This country's greatness has depended on a basic moral compass. We have lost that - now anything goes, and gay "marriage" is just a small step in that direction.

We were made great by our incredible rugged individualism, which led us into the Industrial Revolution, and the highest standard of living in the history of the world. Now it looks like we want the government to take care of us, cradle to grave, without any personal responsibility from individuals.

Our military is by far the greatest fighting force the world has ever seen, yet we shackle them with not one Commander in Chief, but 435 co-CiCs and now, we just added 9 more co-CiCs. You will NEVER win a battle with so many chiefs.

To top all of that, we now worship, rather than assume dominion over, that planet. From a theism that worshiped THE God, we now assign godlike status to THINGS like the earth, trees, and ANWR.

We are sunk. Like DeGaulle once said of Brazil, we are not a serious country.

....
----Like DeGaulle once said of Brazil, we are not a serious country.----

Indeed.

Get Rid of The Supreme Court
If foreigners have rights under the US Constitution, then it is a meaningless document. Guerrillas or terrorists who ignore military conventions have no rights under Geneva Convention. Military law, not civil law or criminal law, applies to captured enemies. None of this is any business of the Supreme Court. Anthony Kennedy is a megalomaniac headline seeker. Neither Bush nor Congress have the courage to take on this black-robed dictator, they should simply tell the Supreme Court to go to hell. Get rid of the Supreme Court.

So many fallacies, so little time
Ira,

Congress authorized the war, so you can't lump this all on Bush, i am so tired of mis-information on this point, and he didn't lie, you lefties need a dictionary or something...

The Geneva convention is a bit outdated, don't you think, this is an asymmetrical war, were combatants (you know the guys who blow up everyone, including Iraqis, women and children, to get their way) do not were uniforms. The Geneva Convention was set up for soldiers in uniforms as a mutual safeguard for POWs, not that everyone always followed them (think Vietnam POWs).

As to your last point, so 5 years is too long? Even though at least 30 that have been released return to the battle trying to kill U.S. servicemen? Every aspect of this war, really? How about deposing Saddam? How about the surge? How about Iraqis finally turning in terrorist and working with us? I guess it is easier to blame Bush.

Why?
Why isn't this man our nominee? Instead we get schitzo McCain who promises to close Gitmo, transfer the detainees to Leavenworth (which would confer upon them Constitutional rights) and now screeches that this is 'the worst decision' in the history of the SCOTUS. Mon Dieux, how can I possibly support this dolt? Don't even get me started with the whole "Oil companies and profits" crapola.

What?
"What remedy do the people have now if they don't like the court's decision?"
NONE.
Think about that folks. None. We're stuck,that's it.Where's our justice?
Thanks Fred making it oh so clear. But what about the voice of the American people?

doctorfixit
We need the Supreme Court to do it's job. It is Congress that is supposed to define that job. They should take certain topics off the table for SCOTUS consideration, This is required under the Constitution as a check and balance.

But Congress Lefties like this
Mike139,

But the lefties in congress like this type of decision, just like they think Roe V. Wade is a holy writ. Why don't DEM voters realize were their "leaders" are leading them?

Mike 139
I agree with everything you wrote, but remember the Libs most certainly believe in 'precedent' when it comes to Roe. Hence the litmus test.

The problem is, there are 4 justices that will do what is expected of the SCOTUS (the disenters). The other five choose to do what they feel is best based upon a living breathing Constitution. That is why it is soooooo important to appoint truly Originalist Judges to the SCOTUS.

Fred '12
Fred 2112. 'Nuff said.

SCOTUS
If the courts decide these combatants get these rights,they should all be let loose. Just load them in planes ,parachuteless, and at 10,000ft.,drop them over the wastelands of Iraq,where they won't smell up the place and let the vultures have at them. Guilty as charged.

Skywalker81, Mike139, I like your
"Solutions"!! First tell the SCOTUS where to get off, then either kill the somebiotches on the field or simply don't let anyone know they are still alive while you extract the information that they have, then they die. Simple!

Well, this is the problem you

face when you don't follow the legalities of actually declaring a state of war. Congress has not passed a declaration of war as mandated by the Constitution, which is the whole lynchpin of this decision. Therefore, those captured "enemy" combatants aren't techically POWs, the rights of whom are covered by the Geneva Conventions instead of domestic law.

If they're not legally POWs, then what's their status and disposition? That's the issue SCOTUS addressed.

As non-POWs under confinement by the US Government, they have to have some rights defined under some formal mandate, and since the Geneva Conventions don't apply to them, then it seems the US Constitution must.

As much as I dislike this opinion, I think it's correct. Otherwise, the Government would have the power to simply detain people forever on a whim. Declare martial law in some state, and imprison people indefinitely without trial. That's simply not acceptable.

Think about it; do you want the government to have this power when a bunch of liberals are in power, and you get imprisoned for thought crimes? Or crimes against the environment?

I don't.

Something about the Geneva Conventions..
...is that, "outdated" as it may be, it DOES contain provisions for non-uniformed combatants taken in the field during combat -

They can be executed as spies.
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Here's the problem with which we're faced:

- McCain has said that he would want to appoint judges like Roberts & Scalia to the SCOTUS.

- McCain has also said that one of the FIRST things he would do as President is CLOSE GITMO.

- Roberts and Scalia have handed down a dissenting opinion that speaks in DIRECT OPPOSITION to McCain's wishes on this topic.

- We've already seen what happens when someone dares to Oppose McCain's Will
(SC+McCainTemperTantrum = 1st-Amendment-Shredding-McCain/Feingold)

Is there anyone who doubts the liklihood of McCain giving away a SCOTUS appointment to the Libs, either for short-term political gain OR in a fit of temper?

Combine that with:

No-Drilling-In-ANWAR,
GlobalWarming,
Re-distribution of Oil Company Profits,
M/F redefining what Freedom of Speech will be allowed,

And the laundry-list of topics we're not-to-discuss (according to McCain)...

And what we've got left is a Socialist (McCain) running for POTUS against a Marxist (Obama).

...Meanwhile, one of the only guys who seemed to understand what the US needs (Thompson), turned and QUIT ON US - preferring to fritter away his time, wri