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Tuesday, November 04, 2008
Dennis Prager :: Townhall.com Columnist
Will Americans Really Vote to Fundamentally Transform America?
by Dennis Prager
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Today, Americans decide on whether, in the words of Barack Obama last week, to fundamentally transform the United States of America.

That is really what this election is about, even though most of those voting for Barack Obama do not want to fundamentally transform America. That is Barack Obamas and the Democratic Partys agenda.

Why then are so many people likely to vote for the U.S. senator from Illinois?

They all have their reasons. But aside from those who hold left-wing views, relatively few want America fundamentally transformed. This can be seen by analyzing the largest groups voting for Barack Obama:

1. People who vote Democrat no matter who the nominee is.

These are dyed-in-the-wool Democrats -- people who usually want more government in their lives, want bigger and stronger unions, dont trust Republicans, and/or have voted Democrat all their lives. Whatever their reasons for regularly voting Democrat, for most of these people, fundamentally transforming America is not one of them.

2. Black Americans

Black Americans regularly vote Democrat, but more will today than ever before. The possibility of a black president electrifies them in ways that no other minority group in America can fully relate to. Jews were happy and proud when Sen. Joe Lieberman, I-Conn., ran for vice-president in 2000. And Greek Americans felt similarly when Spiro Agnew and Michael Dukakis were candidates for national office. But little changed in Jewish or Greek Americans perceptions of themselves or of America.

For most blacks, however, the prospect of a black president symbolizes that they are truly part of America, and in one fell swoop helps undo the racist perception of black inferiority that more than a few blacks believe many whites hold. In short, it gives black Americans the thing all humans most yearn for -- respect from others and self-respect, i.e., dignity. Left-wing blacks, like left-wing whites, want America fundamentally transformed, but that is not the primary reason most blacks are so excited by an Obama victory.

3. Hispanic Americans

According to all analyses of Hispanic voting, Hispanics vote increasingly Democratic because they perceive Republicans as hostile to them. Their social values are far more conservative than liberal, but the immigration issue is a far larger concern for most Hispanics. In fact, if Barack Obama were a conservative Democrat he would get even more Hispanic votes. So, with this group, too, fundamentally transforming America plays little or no role in the Hispanic vote for Barack Obama.

4. Single women

Single women of all colors and ethnicities vote Democrat. They do so primarily because many of them are financially dependent on the state, because they have no man to depend on, nor a husband who might influence them politically (married women are considerably more likely to vote Republican than single women). Whatever their reasons for voting for Barack Obama, transforming America is not one of them. They would vote for any Democrat.

5. Young people

Large numbers of young people are apparently passionately committed to Barack Obama. In their case, the senators youth, his being black, and his charisma are major factors. But for them, transforming America is particularly appealing. That is why Obama used these words before a college audience. Young people tend to think their elders have made a mess of the world and that they will transform it because they are smarter and more idealistic than those who lived before them. They do not know how hard it has been to make a country as great as America and have been educated to see its flaws far more clearly than its far greater virtues.

6. Leftists.

Leftists by definition want to fundamentally transform America. That is their primary reason for voting for Obama. His intelligence, charisma, and being black are only bonuses. Most important to the left is changing America. The farther left you go, the greater the disenchantment with America as it now exists and the greater the yearning to fundamentally transform it in the image of the vision they have for it.

If Barack Obama wins and he is given a Democratic-controlled Congress, the United States will indeed be transformed.

There will be, in Charles Krauthammers words, an unprecedented expansion of government power.

Economic growth will be slowed in favor of achieving economic equality.

Unions will be allowed to abolish secret ballots.

Serious attempts will be made to shut down the most effective opposition to the left -- talk radio.

The defense budget will be severely decreased.

Judges will be chosen based on their commitment to empathize with the downtrodden (Obamas own stated criterion for choosing judges), not based on their commitment to judging according to neutral rules that are blind to the individuals status in life.

Same-sex marriage will become national law as the Defense of Marriage Act is repealed and liberal judges rule that defining marriage as man-woman is unconstitutional.

Coal, nuclear energy, and new drilling will be discouraged and dependency on foreign oil will therefore rise while rationing of energy is instituted.

Companies will seek to do more and more business abroad as they become taxed more than in any other Western country.

Israel will be pressured to make peace.

America will leave Iraq whether or not Iraq is ready for us to do so, thereby increasing Islamic terror there and elsewhere.

Parents will have fewer years to instill their values in their children, as earlier and earlier education becomes the norm.

Judeo-Christian values, the founding values of America, will continue to recede in influence as America becomes more and more a secular-left country like those of Western European.

And when all this -- and much more -- transforms America, no one American will be able to argue they didnt know. Barack Obama promised it.

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We may live in interesting times.
An ancient Chinese curse is "may you live in interesting times" this might happen if America elects Obama.

On Prager's assumptions
I'm sure Prager was trying to be generous in his assertions that an Obama win is important because of how others in society will view us.

Mr. Prager, with all due respect my sense of self worth does not depend on how you or others see me.

Why the Obama candidacy matters to blacks is because it demonstrates that finally, race is no longer an impediment to the highest post in the land.


I can't wait.
We already live in interesting times, tomarico. Barack Obama won't change that. He might make these interesting times a little more bearable, that's all.

Why not believe BO?
His father figure while growing up in Hawaii a Mr Davis was an avowed communist whose core belief was that capitalist America is hell on earth.

His mother Stanley Ann Dunham was a student activist who dabbled in socialist/communist thinking. BO has described his mother as the most giving individual he has ever known. Evidently not a giver of charity but an advocate of government taxing the rich to share with all.

His friend and associate who helped him pass out millions in aid to education primarily a communist indoctricnation campaign in Chicago, Bill Ayers, is an unrepentant terrorist whose hatred for capitalist America and love of all things communist is well known.

Of course his mentor/pastor Rev Wright and his wife Michelle are both rank racists whose disdain for capitalistic white America is almost limitless.

This is the economic culture that BO is comfortable with and probably thinks should have been the founding principles of this country. Liberty, equality, fraternaty was the basis of the French revolution with its attendent reigns of terror where all who did not properly respect and give due reverance to the new order were sent to the chopping block.

I notice that BO has given up on uniting us all and now speaks only in terms of change. Will any and all who don't believe in his version of change be silenced through a "fairness doctrine." Maybe through a national service corps that could set up neighborhood watch commitees to monitor what people say. When the secular messiah speaks who but a unconverted heathen or maybe an evangelical Christian would dare speak a discouraging word.

It is indeed a brave new world if BO is POTUS!

If McCain/Palin pull an upset this country is in for a very long week of civil unrest or worse!


Obama's Personal 'O' Security Force

Obama's Personal National Security Force

"We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we've set," he said. "We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded."
Barack Obama Speech July 2, 2008 Colorado Springs CO
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Barack Obama said: 'civilian national security force'.

Civilian - Would NOT include military or other Law Enforcement agencies.
National - Would NOT recognize State Boundaries.
Security - Security for what?
Force - This word usually denotes power and authority.

Why does Barack Obama want a Civilian Security Force?
1) Just as powerful as the Military.
2) Just as strong as the Military.
3) Just as well funded as the Military.

What will Barack Obama have this 'Civilian National Security Force' do?

Help in hurricanes or other disasters? - we already have the state National guard.

Some have said 'The National Guard is in Iraq and Afghanistan' but Barack Obama plans to have them home less than halfway through the Obama administration.


If you think that 'Joe the Plumber' is unduly investigated now wait until the 'Big O' force is in place.

We will begin to hear about people like 'Joe the Plumber' disappearing.



http://hisfacts.blogtownhall.com/2008/10/21/obamas_radical_ and_communist_alliances.thtml

Communist Goals for America
1:37 AM 11/4/2008Communist Goals for America posted into the Congressioanl Record in 1963 - here are some samples.

17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.

18. Gain control of all student newspapers.

19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.

20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policy-making positions.

21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.

25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.

26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."

Read the entire list at:

http://hisfacts.blogtownhall.com/2008/08/18/communists_45_g oals_in_1963.thtml


"...Moreover, it is ready to strike the first and absolutely necessary blow in a few weeks, that is, to elect Barack Obama and bigger majorities in the House and Senate by a landslide..."

Author: Sam Webb, National Chair,
Communist Party USA
First published 09/27/2008 17:43

Communist Goals for America
1:37 AM 11/4/2008Communist Goals for America posted into the Congressioanl Record in 1963 - here are some samples.

17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.

18. Gain control of all student newspapers.

19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.

20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policy-making positions.

21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.

25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.

26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."

Read the entire list at:

http://hisfacts.blogtownhall.com/2008/08/18/communists_45_g oals_in_1963.thtml


"...Moreover, it is ready to strike the first and absolutely necessary blow in a few weeks, that is, to elect Barack Obama and bigger majorities in the House and Senate by a landslide..."

Author: Sam Webb, National Chair,
Communist Party USA
First published 09/27/2008 17:43

Dennis left out the biggest group
Another case where Dennis is being deliberately dense... he conveniently left out centrists who are disgusted with the state of the Republican party and have no intention of giving them more rope to hang us all with. We don't fit into these deliberately marginalizing labels that Dennis puts on us... but we are the ones swinging this election.

Please just relax... Marxism, Communism... your constant doomsaying and fearmongering over this election is just childish. If you don't get your way, you're going to pout over in the corner.

There WILL be checks and balances, even in single-party control of the legislative and executive branches. Dems WANT to get re-elected; sending the country into some ultra-ultra-liberal direction will be the surest route to getting kicked out in the midterms, and goodbye majority.

The Shortest Day Or The Longest day
THE SHORTEST DAY OR THE LONGEST DAY
lawrencehoule@yahoo.com

THE END OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY AND THE IMPOSITION OF ONE PARTY RULE BY THE DEMOCRATICS - A PERMANMENT DEMOCRATIC ELECTORCIAL COLLEGE BULLET PROOF 270 MAJORITY THAT WILL RULE FOR THE NEXT HUNDRED YEARS AND BEYOND.

WE ARE ON THE VERGE OF THE GREATEST SOCIALIST REVOLUTION SINCE COMRADE LENIN IN 1917

THE RISE TO POLITICAL POWER OF COMMUNITY ORGANIZERS (OBAMA’S ACORN WARRIORS) AND THE CREATION OF AN EGALITERIAN SOCIETY OF EQUAL PEOPLES (ALL EQUALLY POOR)

WILL MCCAIN BE THROWN OVERBOARD ALLOWING THE CORRUPT OBAMA AND DEMOCRATS TO TAKE OVER THE SHIP OF STATE

Many Americans are getting ready to throw McCain - a good, honest, genuine American hero overboard back into the rice paddy and do to him politically what his Vietnamese captors did to McCain physically and impose on the United States permanent Democratic Party rule.

Virtues? What Virtues?
I don't know where Prager has been, but the United States, as a governmental entity, has no virtues. The Government's own Constitution prohibits any formal recognition of God, and that has consequences. For a country to possess virtue, its people, acting as a corporate government entity must promote virtue publicly. That individuals may promote and possess virtue is a completely different matter altogether. An individual man's virtue has no relationship to the country as a political body.

The body of people that comprise the nation must possess virtue collectively, and it can do so only through public governance. But the only thing the country does, publicly, and to a far greater extent, is kill innocent human life (babies), promote promiscuity, un-natural same-sex relations, and look the other way when it comes to immodesy in advertising, in respect to purity (or the terrible lack thereof).

On the scales of justice, America has far greater vice. It has little, if any, virtue.

John (ID) THANK YOU (not how you think)
.
...for showing all the readers here your
*T*O*T*A*L*I*T*A*R*I*A*N* TENDENCIES.

TO SAY, "The body of people that comprise the nation must possess virtue collectively, and it can do so only through public governance"
is beyond the pale.

IT IS THE INDIVIDUAL that possesses virtue, and it is the collection of INDIVIDUALS WITH VIRTUE - *N*O*T* through "public governance" that a nation moves forward with virtue.

YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THE ERRORS OF TOTALITARIANISM IN HISTORY.
__________________________________

Mr. Houle,

If you have to wet your pants, please do so in the privacy of your own Depends.

EEYORES are not welcome today.
____________________________________________


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***** VOTE McCAIN TODAY!!!!! *****
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

You missed a few groups:
1. Dead people
2. People who vote more than once
3. Out-of-staters voting illegally
4. The front line of the Dallas Cowboys
5. Jive Turkey
6. Mickey Mouse
And all the other fictional characters that ACORN and its affiliates have been signing up to vote in the greatest act of criminal voter fraud we have ever witnessed. And if Obama gets elected they'll never be investigated or prosecuted. Hell, they'll probably get appointed to run the Electoral College!

Today
we will learn whether the name of this land is to be spelled America or AmeriKa.

And we will learn if we are the United States of America or United Soviet States of AmeriKa.

If we become the latter, there will be NO return.

REMEMBER THIS when you vote
"During this political season let's be reminded of these wise words. You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich. You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong. You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift. You cannot lift the wage earner up by pulling the wage payer down.

You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred. You cannot build character and courage by taking away people's initiative and independence. You cannot help people permanently by doing for them, what they could and should do for themselves."

Abraham Lincoln

"Democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not."

Thomas Jefferson

"Government is like fire, a handy servant but a dangerous monster"

George Washington

"When the people fear the government, there is tyranny,
When the government fears the people, there is Liberty!"

Thomas Jefferson

"It is the first responsibility of every citizen to question authority"

Benjamin Franklin

"The strongest reason for the people to keep and bear arms is,
As a last resort to protect themselves against tyranny in government"

Thomas Jefferson

"Freedom is a fragile thing, and is never more than one generation away from extinction. It is not ours by inheritance, it must be defended constantly by each generation for it comes only once to a people. Those who have known freedom and then lost it, have never known it again."

Ronald Regan

KEEP THESE WORDS IN MIND WHEN YOU VOTE TODAY AND VOTE TO SAVE THIS REPUBLIC!

bradkz
There will be checks and balances in one party control. Exactly what are they. The fear they will be exposed by the first amendment. Why do you think they wont to eliminate it so badly. The fear of the fact that people do have have the right to bear arms. Well just think Obama has said he is all for that but the government of course has the right to take that away. This is this scariest time America has faced. The world or this country won't survive if we become like Europe. And just think how Islam and Sharia law is spreading through Europe unchecked. Elect Obama and he doesn't have to be Muslim. We will get the same thing all the same.

Excuse me
Mr. Prager,

Your attempt to dismiss this election as those "other" people who will vote to change the United States misses the mark. You will have to look to all the married centrist white people too. Look to Ronald Reagan's solicitor general Charles Fried. And Scott McCellan. And William Weld. And all those who believe that McCain and Palin are clearly the less desirable ticket.

The fact is McCain had to run against Bush and Obama. And he ran a low road pathetic campagin. And he picked a novice for VP.

President Obama will be an excellent president in many ways. It's going to be ok.

DCR
Do you believe you'll be in the ruling class or is there a chance you might end up a peasant.

In Socialism, you only have 2 classes.

I'd bet money you haven't read the list of changes the Socialist party has itemized.
It is available!

Part of this list is printed today in one of the columns.

If not this election the next
We have set up a scenario where neither Republicans or conservatives will be able to win again at the national level. Or very likely have control of the house or Senate.

It's very simple. We gave up the schools where children are indoctrinated to hate the country and support socialism. We gave up the culture because we were more concerned about money and/or being liked. And we allowed the immigration both legal and illegal of millions of people who do not have a framework for understanding why the US has prospered. Finally, many of us or our family members became dependent upon government to provide for us - you cannot be free of government control (tyranny) if you are dependent upon them for your daily bread.

There is always hope though
If enough Republicans or conservatives are able to communicate with one another after we lose our first amendment rights. And we are able to avoid or survive the reeducation camps. And if we can save enough of our guns from confiscation maybe we can one day become a free nation again or form our own - as this is unlikely:

hide your money
buy your guns and ammo before January
stock up on necessities as hyper-inflation may be coming

these are very scary times ahead

How Long Do We Have? Part One
This is the most interesting thing I've read in a long time. The sad thing about it, you can see it coming.

I have always heard about this democracy countdown. It is interesting to see it in print. God help us, not that we deserve it.

How Long Do We Have?

About the time our original thirteen states adopted their new constitution in 1787, Alexander Tyler, a Scottish history professor at the University of Edinburgh, had this to say about the fall of the Athenian Republic some 2,000 years earlier:

'A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government.'

'A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury.'

’From that moment on, the majority always vote for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship.'

'The average age of the world's greatest civilizations from the beginning of history, has been about 200 years'

'During those 200 years, those nations always progressed through the following sequence:

1. From bondage to spiritual faith;

2. From spiritual faith to great courage;

3. From courage to liberty;

4. From liberty to abundance;

5. From abundance to complacency;

6. From complacency to apathy;

7. From apathy to dependence;

8. From dependence back into bondage'

How Long Do We Have? Part Two
Professor Joseph Olson of Hemline University School of Law, St. Paul, Minnesota, points out some interesting facts concerning the 2000 Presidential election:

Number of States won by: Democrats: 19 Republicans: 29

Square miles of land won by: Democrats: 580,000 Republicans: 2,427,000

Population of counties won by: Democrats: 127 million Republicans: 143 million

Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by: Democrats: 13.2 Republicans: 2.1

Professor Olson adds: 'In aggregate, the map of the territory Republican won was mostly the land owned by the taxpaying citizens of this great country. Democrat territory mostly encompassed those citizens living in government-owned tenements and living off various forms of government welfare...'

Olson believes the United States is now somewhere between the 'complacency and apathy' phase of Professor Tyler's definition of democracy, with some forty percent of the nation's population already having reached the 'governmental dependency' phase.

If Congress grants amnesty and citizenship to twenty million criminal invaders called illegal's and they vote, then we can say goodbye to the USA in fewer than five years.


Republicans vs Democrats??
Does it not bother you that the far left is using the Democratic party to further it's Socialist agenda? Don't be duped into thinking this election is about the "rich and the poor". It is about Liberty or Liberty no more.The "fundamentals" of America is exactly what we do not want changed.

Scott McCellan Colin Powell etc etc
Tell them about all this 'socialism.'

President Obama will win today with well over 300 electoral votes. He will be OUR president. It's time to start thinking as Americans. In the US we have the belief in LOYAL OPPOSITION--that even in the face of disagreement we share fundamental values.



How Long Do We Have - Correction

Well, I've been snookered. And I didn't check my sources before I posted the two messages above.

Snopes (with whom I have huge issues of being in the bag for Obama) disputes some of what I posted.

Professor Olson does exist and teaches Business Associations, Business Planning, Contracts, Corporate Finance, and taxation courses.

From the real Dr. Olson:
DISCLAIMER: There is an e-mail floating around the internet dealing with the 2000 Bush/Gore election, remarks of a Scotish philosopher named Alexander Tyler, etc. Part of it is attributed to me. It is entirely BOGUS as to my authorship. I've been trying to kill it siince December 2000. For details see: http://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/tyler.asp.

Sorry folks. I blew it on this one.

Good questions about America, though, don't you think?

Sorry DCR
I will not sit idly by and watch Obama, Pelosi and Reid turn our great country into another weak, destitude and corrupt european province. Those likely to be in power do not share my fundamental values of industry, freedom and liberty.

I will find others who share my values and use every legal means to restore our country to greatness.

Give it up DCR
I keep seeing liberals post drivel about we now need unity and we are all Americans.

Liberals lost any hope of that with 8 years of viscious attacks on Bush. That ship has sailed. I do find it humerous that you guys keep thinking we're all stupid enough to fall for these pleas.

ModMark
I would like to say my statement was tongue-in-cheek but I'm afraid then I'd be wrong. Don't forget Bill Ayers wanted reeducation camps, and thought they'd have to kill approximately 25 million uneducable Americans in order to have their glorious socialist Utopia.

Dennis Prager: Will America really vote.
Mr. Prager,

Surely you realize that you have put forth a description of a new country...no longer, or shortly, will America be known as the USA, but will be transformed into this new worldly body as the USSA!! I doubt that many could, deep down, disagree with your analysis, but of course many, many will try. I suspect time and history to prove you right. What's more, and I've not heard this said much if at all, it seems so ironic that the USSR is and has been leaning to capitalism with its newly found wealth, while the USSA is on their way to socialism. I just hope and pray that our road, like the USSR, doesn't take 70 years to realize the mistake!

DCR
Tell you what, I'll show the same loyalty and support to a President Obama that the libs showed to President Bush for 8 years.

LuLu
Bill Ayres ReEducation camps would explain why Obama wants a domestic military force equal to our standing Army with the same budget

Hey lionheart
When did any "right-wing fanatic" burn a city in protest or celebration?

Many big city police are gearing up for such events either way it goes tonight..doesn't speak too well for some of bambi's supporters now does it?

If this fool gets elected, you kool-aid drinkers like the stupid woman who is shown in the Utube vid this morning who thinks she won't have to pay her mortgage any more etc, will have been complicit in the destruction of your own country, hope that makes you real proud.

America Fundamentally Transformed?
Mr.Prager your article is heartbreakingly subtle,this country will be "fundamentally destroyed"! And we have no one to blame but "fundamentalist(so-called)christians"
(black&white),bleeding heart liberals,and the ultra-elitests, all of whom are Bush-haters.
They(esp.blacks)blame republicans/conservatives
for everything that is wrong with the world!
I have been called a"brainwashed-uncle-tom-living in OC"(one of the nicer names)" for finally seeing the light & going over to the Rep. party in '92. I have tried to make severals points from Mr Pragers' list, but it resulted in "screaming matches and lost friendships" and those where with CHRISTIANS!!!
Republicans.....if "we" lose this fight today 11/4/08,follow the advice from LuLu in VA, because if you thought the last 3 yrs were bad,"YOU AIN'T SEEN ANYTHING...that will rival what's coming under Barrys' administration!!!
and I'll have to leave my beautiful CA,as it'll be worse here.

Oh Please...
campaign rhetoric aside, no one is going to 'fundamentally change' this country because it's very difficult to enact more than incremental change given our political system.
It does make a nice catch phrase for Prager though.

Missed the obvious
Some of your observations are reasonable, but you are missing the obvious. This country has moved massively to the left and is rushing further in that direction. Government is no longer regarded by the majority as a limited but necessary evil. It is now embraced as the enlightened and benevolent champion of the people, empowered to both define and guarantee social and economic equality and justice. Obama and his socialist contemporaries and predecessors have finally won a significant majority over to this philosphy and their demand for fundamental change. The spirit of the Declaration of Independence, the struggle to preserve individual liberty, and the concept of enumerated powers have unfortunately flickered out.

Vote to Save America
Vote to Save America! The radical Main Street Media have refused to reveal the truth about Barack Obama. This election gives us two choices: (a) Vote for John McCain to preserve our democracy or (b) Vote for Barack Obama and sell our souls into slavery under a socialistic, Marxist, totalitarian form of government. It is hard to believe that the Democratic Party is so adamant about destroying everything that has made America great and the envy of the world, the Promised Land, the American Dream, the Beacon of Hope, Freedom, and Opportunity, and the Protector of the Free World. But destruction of America was the goal of the SDS Port Huron Conference in 1962 (James Michener, Kent State, 1971, p. 160). Now the Democrats want to elect to the highest elected office of the land a terrorist sympathizer and black supremacist who could not even qualify for a security clearance because of his associations with William Ayers, Reverend Wright, and Rashid Khalidi, his hatred for America, and his hypocrisy, dishonesty, and devotion to Muslimism, socialism, Marxism, and revolution.
Barack Obama supports suppression of the press and free speech, propaganda, enslavement of the masses, political correctness, deconstruction of the Constitution, weakening the military, building a powerful Gestapo-like national security system, socialized medicine, anarchy, nihilism, abortion, gay marriage, voter fraud, redistribution of wealth, destruction of capitalism and the free market system, losing the war in Iraq and withdrawing forces, deserting the fight for freedom in the Middle East, turning America into a welfare state, and promoting corruption in our society. Democrats have mounted a coup d’etat to destroy America. Wake up, America, before it is too late!

That's because..
>The defense budget will be severely decreased.<

The defense budget has had little to nothing to do with defense for decades.
Given the current debt, it will be necessary for budget cuts in every sector. However, we can't decimate one of the few relatively healthy manufacturing sectors still left in this country - defense contractors - so there will have to be cuts in other areas.

The manifesto of one conservative
BE IT KNOWN THIS DAY, THE FOURTH DAY OF THE MONTH OF NOVEMBER IN THE YEAR OF OUR LORD TWO THOUSAND AND EIGHT, HAVING CAST A BALLOT THIS DAY WITH THE CHOICE OF JOHN SIDNEY MCCAIN III TO BE THE 44TH PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES AND THE CHOICE OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY CANDIDATE FOR THE SEAT IN THE UNITED STATES HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES REPRESENTING THE FEDERAL CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT I RESIDE IN ON THIS DAY, IN FULL KNOWLEDGE AND ACCEPTANCE OF THE CONSEQUENCES OF MY VOTE, I DO HEREBY MAKE THE FOLLOWING DECLARATION TO THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA:

1) SHOULD JOHN SIDNEY MCCAIN III BECOME THE 44TH PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, I DO HEREBY THIS DAY ACCEPT RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE CONSEQUENCES OF THE DECISIONS, POLICIES, AND ACTIONS MR. MCCAIN MAY PURSUE AND ENACT IN THAT OFFICE AS A RESULT OF MY CLEARLY INDICATED SUPPORT FOR HIS ASCENSION TO THIS OFFICE VIA MY VOTE AND WILL PRAY FOR ALMIGHTY GOD'S DIVINE GUIDANCE AND HAND UPON HIM DURING HIS TERM;

2) SHOULD BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA II BECOME THE 44TH PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, AS PONTIUS PILATE WASHED HIS HANDS OF THE BLOOD OF JESUS, I DO HEREBY THIS DAY WASH MY HANDS OF ALL RESPONSIBILITY FOR WHATEVER UNDESIRABLE AND DESTRUCTIVE CONSEQUENCES MAY RESULT FROM THE DECISIONS, POLICIES, AND ACTIONS MR. OBAMA MAY PURSUE AND ENACT IN THAT OFFICE AS A RESULT OF MY CLEARLY INDICATED OPPOSITION TO HIS ASCENSION TO THIS OFFICE VIA MY VOTE, ALTHOUGH I ALSO PLEDGE THIS DAY TO PRAY FOR ALMIGHTY GOD'S DIVINE GUIDANCE AND HAND TO BE UPON HIM DURING HIS TERM BUT ACCEPT NO RESPONSIBILITY FOR ANY RESULTANT REJECTION OF DIVINE COUNSEL ON THE PART OF MR. OBAMA.

Not everyone will see change
Every president changes things to the benefit of some and the detriment of others. Obama and the Democratic majority will decide who benefits and who pays. The first thing it will be payback time for the Democrats to get after the Republicans. Plenty of investigations and nastiness. Then it will be time to hand out favors to the faithful. The only positive I see is that the Democrats are far more a party of special interests who could spend the next 4 years fighting each other. As for Republicans, time to start buying some newspapers and TV networks. Perhaps start more Fox news type networks. Spend the next 4 years writing books not tearing down Obama but building up positive Republican ideas. Instead of being nasty and petty like the Democrats have been for the last 8 years, be positive with ideas and solutions and explanations of why Republican free market ideas are better.

Obama tax cut?
For a married family, filing jointly and earning $75,000 a year, this increase will be $3,074. For those making just $50,000, this increase will be $1,512. Despite Senator Obama's claim, even struggling American families making just $25,000 a year will see a tax increase -- they'll pay $715 more...
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/10/senator_obamas_four_ tax_increa.html
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Just a reminder - about the Obama lie on tax. He will raise your tax by allowing the Bush tax cuts to expire!

The Weak Vote Democratic!!!
They are the People who want Big Brother in there Lives telling them how and what to do in there lives.Handouts,Welfare,Illegals,the weak who have excuses for everything and want big Government to fix there failures,who's Motto is its not what you can do for your Country but what your Country can do for you.Look at what the Left Liberals have done,ACLU made laws that protect the Criminals over the Victims,Continued Welfare to the point of making it a Career for some who use it for a lifetime and have passed it on to the point of it becoming generational,Have allowed Minorities to continue to Blame White America for all there Failures when they are to blame for there own Failures,as if they are the only people to ever be oppressed or inslaved,but they have used it as a excuse for to long.The Democrats Promised the world two years ago and it was all lip service which is what the Democrats are famous for (LIP SERVICE)they are Weak and always either need help or a hand up but never stand on there own two feet and except responsibility for what they do,they always have somebody to blame just look at this election they have blamed Bush for everything that has happened but at what time have you heard any Democrat except any Responsibility for what has happened in our Country from the Economy,Education,Medical Ins,Iraq,and so on.I have been a life long Conservative/Moderate Independent and I decide based on who is most qualified/Experienced to do the job and for the most part the Democrats do not reflect the Vision of our Founding Fathers.I do not believe in Socialism and as a Disabled U.S. Vet I did not protect America from Socialism/Communism to have my own Country run By just that,Barack Obama stands for everything I was willing to give my life for in defense of our Nation and being a 8th Generation American it makes me sick to see the direction we are headed if we allow the Democrats to get control for they stand for everything that has made us so weak.

Single Women
Single women of all colors and ethnicities vote Democrat. They do so primarily because many of them are financially dependent on the state, because they have no man to depend on, nor a husband who might influence them politically

What an amazing generalization! I am single, supported myself all my life, and don't need a man to depend on to support me or to tell me how to vote. There are many more like me.

Disunion Now!
Appoint the commissioners now! Divide the nation now! Independence now!

Vote McCain now that I'm married
I agree about the generalization of "single women" depending on the state. That's an insult. However, when I was single I DID vote democratic. Since I've been married, I've switched republican, but that was coincidence. What I did between Clinton and W. was convert to Christianity and my eyes were opened about many things. Life vs. Abortion is a deal breaker for me. I also adamantly disagree with the state indoctrinating my children to a secular, immoral life style. My own ethics, morals and values have tightened up (thank God for that) and I first look to God and HIS ways. I am for smaller gov't because I believe in PEOPLE, in America, and in enterprise. I DO think BOTH SIDES need change. I think McCain has MY families best interest at heart. His wife and he have walked the walk in honor and integrity. I TRUST McCain and he is pro-life, pro-democracy and pro-security of this nation.


voting
I find it very interesting that the majority of the black community has never truely had an interest in voting until this election. Is this not racism when it is only important to vote if the candidate is black?

Bulldog74..excellent suggestion!
I’ll show an ObarryBiden presidency the same respect the Democrats/Liberals showed Bush-Cheney!!!

I shudder to think what would happen if Republicans publicly & viciously attacked Obama like they do Bush daily!!!

Republicans!!! We need to buy more TV, radio stations to interview and embrace conservatives from “ALL” cultures to show the liberal media that the Republican party is not just made up of “rich whites people”. How do they think Bush-Cheney got re-elected in 2004????

The average Dem voter.....
...today is incapable of being honest both in themselves and in their candidates.

That history has shown, time and again, obama's policies would be a disaster for the country means nothing to them. The average Dem wallows in willful ignorance and delayed adolescence.

That obama has lied repeated means nothing to a Democratic voter. That he and his thugs intimidate and otherwise go after critics is also a non-issue for them.

If obama were to get in office, know for certain that when the decay begins, the Democratic voter will displace responsibility for the disasters and blame some Republican of days gone by.

McCain will win, folks. And we should thank God himself for it.


Fundamentally transform Amerirca?
Thank you for your stand for America during this election. You and many of your fellow columnists have been true patriots which is something I can't say about the democratic nominee for president.

Many years ago my great-great-great grandfather
fought with General Washington to help secure our independence from Great Britian. My heart is broken when I think about the changes this individual wants to bring to the country that my grandfater was willing to take a bullet to help establish. He led his children to be patriots. My great grandfather fought in the Civil War and my father fought in WWI. They believed in and loved this country. Where is this love of coutry in the democratic candidate? I certainly haven't seen it!

Norman;
Thanks for validating my earlier post and that, in spades.

I forgot just how adolescent a Dem can get.

Move out of your mother's basement and get a job, Normy.

Predictions if Obama wins...
If Mr. Obama wins:

1- The Republican party will never regain control of house, senate or white house.

Why? The 'Left' is by definition Anti-Democratic. They will, under Obama and his handlers, move to consolidate power shifting control of money needed to become elected into their hands.

2- As part of their need to control all things 'human' they will gradually eliminate the following:

a. Private ownership of most guns
b. Private control of Energy supplies
c. " Food production and distribution
d. Any private schooling that could be called such.

3- The mass media is already lost excepting AM Radio. They will move to gut that via the Fairness Doctrine and other means. Even the "Regular" news media will suddenly find that they will have 'controls' placed upon them and 'suggestions' made as to what the 'ruling elite' in Washington would like to have disseminated. Anyone not towing the correct line will find themselves persecuted via various government agencies: Taxes, etc.

4- America WILL be fundamentally changed as the courts are systematically stacked to allow judges to 'legislate' without hindrance whatever is wanted from the Executive branch. Since it more or less happens all the time now it will not come as much of a shock to those in the populace that approve or those who don't and aware of what's going on.

Have a happy post election!

Norman
You have an adult body(probably of mixed parts i.e.fem/male)and a 4yr olds mind.

Now pull your thumb out of your mouth and take your nappy.

Prager the Irrelevant
Prager is marching toward irrelevancy because of hysteria like this column.

What Barack Obama means when he says he wants to fundamentally transform America is that he wants to shift the focus from what lobbyists and the super wealthy want, toward policies that benefit all of America.

It's that simple Prager. Trying to make it into something really really scary is demagogy.

And he never, ever, ever said he wants judges to makes decisions based on empathy rather than the law. You did not site a source for that assertion because there is none. This makes you a liar, Prager.

This election will put a stake in the heart of the Karl Rove, Lee Atwater style politics that Prager and Medved engage in every single day; the politics of dividing America into the patriotic parts and the hate America parts. You morons can keep it up and remain in the political wilderness, or you can change. The choice is yours.

Phylo out.

Some Proof, Don
"The government can punish me for my speech, and does so lustily when it serves their purposes." Don Juan

For Don, please provide proof of where the current government has "punished you lustily" for your free speech. In addition, get over it, the Bush Administration is gone and you are going to have your messiah in the Whitehouse. Just where will you focus your absurd hate in the future?

And, I will predict that we haven't seen any violations of the First Amendment up until now like we will see under the Obama Administration.

BBurt
You're the master of over-statement. In 2 years 1/3 of the Senate and all of the house will stand for re-election, and in 4 years so will Obama.

Obama, like Bush, will soon learn that he doesn't have the resources to accomplish what you say, and if he does, the economy will tank. That is the simple reality. And it doesn't matter what grand plans people have.

And if that happens, Americans will toss him out, just like they are doing this year to the GOP, and have done every year since 1840 to the in party when the economy goes south.

This election hasn't begun to confront the actual crisis that is coming on spending. We currently spend 40% of our budget on medicare, medicaid and social security - and to do that we've been running deficits of 20% for 8 years. Last year, the first boomer retired, and over the next 15 years, spending on entitlements will increase to 60% of the budget. At the same time, health care costs have spiralled out of control, and are now costing 17%, and are increasing to 20% in the next 4 years or so. We are also spending 10% of our budget on paying interest on our deficits, a figure that is certain to increase to 15% over the next 4-6 years.

Sit back, reorganize the GOP, and wait. This party hasn't even started yet. But in 4 years, it will begin. This is the last election before the onset of the entitlement storm.

Hey, hysterics, question:
Why do you think The Economist magazine (a conservative magazine) endorsed Barack Obama?

Were they fooled by the liberal media?

Or could it be that YOU have been fooled by right wing talk radio?

Hmmmm?

Phylo out.

Decision 08
Do you want to live in a republic? (McCain)

Or do you want to live in a commune? (Obama)

Simple choice.

Not all single women...
... have been taken in by Obama. And there is definitely a conservative segment of the African-American population. However, when I bring this up with other white Republicans, most ignore me. Why? If BHO wins, conservatives will need to forge new alliances to make sure to defeat the Left in 2012.

Please visit:
http://www.nbra.info
http://blackarc.wordpress.com

2012 Election Ballot
People's Party Supreme Leader

COMRADE BARACK OBAMA

[ ] YES

{ ] no (if you dare)

OPPOSITION: NONE PERMITTED

The Constitutional Scholar
The real problem with Obama is that he is more a constitutional threat than he is a scholar. His intent to "use" the document by interpreting to implement his social and economic justice agendas is a direct challenge to the document which serves as the basis to our representative republic. To wit:
He disregards the First Amendment through attacks on personal and media critics, his supporters using the powers of the state to investigate private citizens.
He disregards the Second Amendment by claiming the right to bear arms may be "collective" and not "individual." He clearly supports the most restrictive measures possible to limit the purchase and use of firearms, up to and including the ban on ammunition.
He uses the Fourth Amendment to his advantage by claiming the right to "privacy" between physician and expectant mother vis a vis the decision to abort. His position on protecting this right is extreme, to the point of denying post-abortion care to surviving fetuses. Yet, his campaign was willing (in 2004) to scrap this right to privacy in pressing for the release of Jack and Jeri Ryan's divorce records. The media lawyer arguing the case for the release claimed they wanted "as much as possible" released. She didn't want to spare Mr. Ryan "embarrassment," but didn't care what effect the information would have on the Ryan's young child at the time.
We need to be prepared to fight to protect the constitution. It is obvious Mr. Obama would be lying if he deigns to take the oath which promises to "preserve and protect" this seminal document.

Taxes
Redlac posts a laundry list of economic programs that will cause our system to be stressed beyond capability(although he omits the bloated cost of defense and wars).

Both candidates proposed tax cuts in one form or another, which is what the populace wants to hear, but will only deepen our financial crisis.

Biden is actually correct when he says that paying taxes is patriotic, because the only way for this country to retain solid footing financially is the twofold approach of increasing revenue while cutting spending.

The biggest fear is that Obama with a Dem congressional majority will be similar to Bush during his 1st 6 years, and fail to veto any spending bill that crosses his desk.

This country is practically broke. Talk of tax cuts is irresponsible and reckless, even if politically beneficial.

Demoncrat taxes
EXISTING DEMOCRAT TAX BILLS AWAITING ACTION
INFO FROM OUR LOCAL LIBERAL NEWSPAPER
45 TRILLION DOLLARS = Carbon credit Tax
1 TRILLION DOLLARS = Charlie Rangel’s Tax
845 BILLION DOLLARS = Obama’s To-The-UN-To-Give-To-Our-Enemies-Tax
76 BILLION DOLLARS = Obama’s gasoline tax
10 CENTS PER GALLON = Gasoline pump tax increase
47 TRILLION DOLLARS = TOTAL NEW TAXES
THIS DOESN’T INCLUDE TAX CUTS THEY WILL ELIMINATE!
THIS DOESN’T INCLUDE 17 TRLLION DOLLARS WE ALREADY PAY.
OBAMA WANTS ONE TRILLION DOLLARS IN NEW SPENDING.
WHO GETS THE OTHER 46 TRILLION DOLLARS OF NEW TAXES?
HOW WILL QUADRUPILING OUR TAX BURDEN HELP US?
WE THE PEOPLE PAY ALL TAXES!!!

4 YEARS AND OBAMA WILL BE VOTED OUT!!
-1. You can not strengthen the weak by weaking the strong 2. You can not help small men by tearing down big men 3. You can not lift the wager earner by pulling down the wage payer. 4. you can not establish security on barrowed money. 5.you can not help men permanently by doing for them what they could and should do themselves.6. You can not build character and courage by taking away a man's initiative and independence 7. You can not help the poor by destroying the rich. Yours truly ABRAHAM LINCOLIN

Chinese Foreign Aid Anyone?
Should Oblahma get elected and no hurdles ahead with the communist "Troika - Politburo" -
Oblahma - Pelosi - Reid

In less than two years time we hope the Chinese will be as generous as we were in dispensing foreign aid to third world countries.
We will sorely need it!
After all it's "fair"...they don't have to share the wealth with blacks, they don't have any!

Prager forgot to mention the mother of all capital flights in world history, should Oblahma win...my investments have already been sent to safe places overseas.
I guess I'm "selfish"...

John NY
Switzerland doesn't have any blacks...abd the Netherlands a very small percentage, that should explain their standard of living...
Are you suggesting sending our blacks back to Africa?

Fundamental Change?
Thank you Mr. Prager for saying what has been on my mind. Will things really fundamentally change? Who knows? But we very well may soon find out and I hope we are all wrong. I look at what Senator Obama has been able to accomplish in the short time he has been in elected public service and even with his tardiness and present votes he has come a long long way. I can only imagine what he can accomplish in the next 4 years and it scares me. Not for myself, but for my grand-daughter who will be born right about the time he would take office.

The thing that turned me off to Obama was the infomercial because it showed he and his wife and daughters walking through a meadow of sorts... I didn't believe it for a second. It looked fake and I realized we do not know the real barak obama... and where did his wife come from? Haven't seen her in months...

I hope John McCain wins today, but I know that God's Will will be done no matter what and that gives me peace.

Don't give up yet
What if Obama loses? Everyone has this guy in the drivers seat and most people haven't even voted yet. So what is he loses? How many cities go into lockdown because of rioting? Chicago's prepping for Obama's rally this evening and boy are they shaking. If the news comes over the loud speaker that McCain has won what will happen to Daley's city? The news media has been so pro Obama that no one will believe that McCain won, only that the Republicans stole the election somehow. I really think this country is the closest we have ever been to a civil war since the Civil War. Obama, the great Uniter? You've got to be kidding! I never seen anyone divide this country as much as this guy and if he gets in this country is lost. All that the brave men and woman have fought before us for our freedoms will be for naught. Obama says "it is our time?" Does that mean that now the productive people of society will now get to sit home while the unproductive go to work and support us? They want the shoe on the other foot? With Obama all it means is that the productive will no longer be motivated to succeed because there will be a line drawn as to what you can keep and what you must give away. He will deflate this country in ways we have never seen before. The House and Senate is Democratic now and their approval rating is less then that of Bush's. Yet somehow everyone still blames everything on Bush. The haves and have nots...this guy is definitely dividing us more then ever thought possible. Just go and vote people, it's our only shot and it ain't over.

Dont forget the payola
Vote for me, Ill give you 1000 Bucks...

John from NY
You really dont want a "standard of living like Switzerland or the Netherlands". I can't speak to Switzerland but I sure can for the Netherlands since I live there part time each year and have relatives there. We live in a one bedroom apartment, the waiting list for two bedrooms is 3-5 years. Moving would have to be approved by the "StadtBureau" (city government). If it were to be to an apartment out of the district I would have to register at the local Police Bureau since I am a foreign national even though married to a Netherlander. I can apply for a residence permit but they are seldom granted. I could apply for Citizenship but would have to be a full time resident learn Dutch and give up my US citzenship.Our apartment area is surrounded by people of Muslim religion...no big deal except since they are the majority they insist on seperate schools for their children (and get them) They are frequently less than peaceful although you seldom see reports of Muslim violence in Dutch newspapers. And last, but far from least, it is terribly expensive even for the native born.

Obama is nearly there, I can smell hate
Will Americans Really Vote to Fundamentally Transform America?

Yes they will Deniis and that is why Obama is going to get in.

A vote for intelligence, the future and progression.

Shame on the posters who are already trying to stir up things saying riots will happen if Obama loses. Pathetic.

But we will never find out because he is going to win.

I vould talk about all the rednecks your side that will take up arms if, no WHEN McCain loses. We already know that your side has people who may well attempt to subvert democracy and try an attempt on Obamas life.

Its your side that are the pig ignorant backward looking people. You dont deserve a president as smart as Obama, but luck is on your side. You just dont know it yet.

bradkz Location: CA Reply # 8
I am with you.

You say:
There WILL be checks and balances, even in single-party control of the legislative and executive branches.

Didn't Hitler say the same thing? And you are just plain full of Shiite if you really believe the single party theory. What a joke.

Contradiction?
>I never seen anyone divide this country as much as this guy and if he gets in this country is lost. All that the brave men and woman have fought before us for our freedoms will be for naught.<

The country is lost? Your rhetoric is so divisive(complete with hillbilly grammar - "I never seen?") that it's impossible to take you seriously. The country won't be lost if Obama wins. There will likely be little difference in your day to day life. The possibilty even exists that he may be an excellent manager with good choices for cabinet and advisory positions. The biggest fear is that a Pelosi/Reid controlled Congress will pass irresponsible spending bills and Obama will sign them.

auldsailor362
Idiotic post.

Ive lived in Switzerland and been to the Netherlands many times.

The standard of living in Switzerland is one of the highest in the world, look it up. And the Netherlands is a fantastic country.

Jus because you are holed up in a bad area, dont damn the whole country because you are being purposely blinkered to try and make a point.

I stayed south of Little Rock, Arkansas for a few months a couple of years ago on an IT project. That was a poor, violent, run down cesspool.

Shouls I extrapolate like you just have and say that is all the USA?

DCR blubbers:
And he ran a low road pathetic campagin. And he picked a novice for VP

I am with you.
Have you seen osama's ads? Like the ones run here in Indiana? What a joke to say one side ran a low road campaign.
And your choice of the word "novice" reflects badly on your choice of POTUS. Now there is a "novice." Much more novice than Mrs. Palin.

LMFAO (Not used with the Drunken Master's permission)

Dennis
Thank you Dennis for saying what alot of pepole are thinking. Sen Obama is for fundamental change in America, but not all change is good. I do not want to exchange Liberty for security.
Thank you again Dennis, just wish you would have written it sooner.
Kirk

Idopas what are you talking about
Your sense of smell must be amazing, kind of like that of a dog. Your voice from the UK is pretty pathetic. First off, rednecks? You obviuosly dont know American history. 2nd, taking up guns? Your pretty much a moron. Repubs take defeat, if that were to happen, as an indicator that we must do better not that we must load up our shotguns and go democrat hunting. Further, here in America polls are SECRET so who would we take up arms against. Your an immature fool. I seldom call people names but in your case Im spot on. Go drink some tea and leave America to the Americans, not the wannabes. If someone were to foolishly try to hurt Obama it would be the most hateful thing since MLK's asassination. We respect the man but dont agree with him.


John # 10
It is a myth to say the Constitution "prohibits any formal recognition of God". Actually, contrarily according to the federalist papers our forefathers intended leaders to use religious guidance when making decisions in government. There is NO separation of church and state - these words are in not in the founding documents. What it does say:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion...

Our forefathers wanted to assure that no ONE religion would have control in government -- they never intended men to rule without their own personal religious guidance.

Americans need to read the founding documents they clear up many of these leftist myths.

Phy los a phizer
He did indeed say he would appoint judges based on empathy etc. As a matter of fact the only "litmus test" he didn't name was they had to be gay, but I'm sure that was a simple oversight.

Obama win will not affect Blacks

An Obama win will not affect or change the minds of Blacks in anyway.

One thing White America needs to understand is that for many blacks, they are taught from the time they can understand the english language is that everything that is wrong in their life is because of white man. They hear it in the family, they hear it in church, they learn about it at school, Black media, Black leaders like Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton teach them that they are victims. By adulthood, they are well primed to hate the establishment.

The result is as blacks enter the adult "white man's world", they may project an attitude that many whites will not understand and chaulk off to bad black behavior or poor upbringing.

If I told you from the begining of your life that every failue, everything bad, everything wrong in your life was the result of Eskimos, I should not be suprised if you grow up hating Eskimos.

Pancho
You remind me of the Germans who asked why they didn't see it coming after Hitler's reign. They should have, he laid it all out, but they were so focused on the economy and regaining world opinion, that they didn't care.

We should see it coming too.

I agree that typically the government just swings a little to the left or a little to the right with any given president. But Obama has promised something different.

He has promised to:

withdraw our troops from Iraq

close Gitmo

Bankrupt the coal industry

spread the wealth

cause electricity rates to "skyrocket"

appoint judges based on ideology rather than respect for the law

prohibit states from having any restrictions on abortion

prohibit states from having any restrictions on gay marriage

Unfortunately, the list goes on. This is not just a bad spending bill or new entitlement. This is fundamental change that Americans are going to suffer for.

the riot question
So, students will riot after their school's sports team loses (and sometimes after victories), but they won't riot after their presidential candidate gets his victory stolen from him due to race? Come on. You give certain segments of the population too much credit.

As for rednecks (interesting choice of words) "taking up guns"...they already do. Rednecks own guns legally, genius. We are allowed to own guns under the Constitution--something I'm sure you'd like to eliminate. You don't understand yet that government wants you totally dependent on it, even for your personal defense against criminals, rapists, and thugs.

gobama of IL
So you really believe that Obama will lower or cut your taxes?
You do know that he can promise anything he wants.
When has he EVER voted to lower taxes, cut spending or cut a program?
But now, because he said he would, you believe him?
And you do know that your taxes will go up in 2010, since he wants to let the Bush tax cuts expire? Or did you forget that Bush cut your taxes? Did you think those cuts only went to the wealthy?
Or are you one of the 30% or so that don't pay taxes and just can't wait to get their hands on money that someone else made?

WOW
I went to the polls and it was AMAZING!
no DEAD people there. At least none without proper ID. To bad the same can not be said about Lake County or East Chicago.

LMFAO (Not used with the Drunken Master's permission)

Back in a bit pals and pukes.

Idopass
Curious that you're so interested in our election. I guess misery loves company and Europe will not be happy until America has accepted the "utopia" that you have to offer.

I have lived in Europe, and it's mostly a smelly place where people have to accept second rate health care becuase it's all the government can afford.

Idapod from the UK
Well I have to admit I was describing a home in a very pleasant area of Amsterdam, but I've found much the same in Den Hague, Brussels,
Frankfurt, Tokyo, Singapore, Sydney Hobart and and even Dubai.
I have little regard for the pommies who are turning their country into Beirut West. Suffice to say I was describing a typical, elite driven place (sort of like Londenstan), which I sincerely hope my country never becomes. You like yours As my Aussie friends would say "goodonya you pommie b*****d"

DCR
Please give specific examples of McCain taking the "low road" in his campaign.



tick..tock..tick..tock..

SIngle but NOT stupid
Dennis,
You lumping single women into handout takers is an insult beyond anything I know...

I'm single, homeschooled and raised 3 kids without that "handout" from government.
I hunt for food or grow it
I'm educated and proud and I am conservative.

You sir are of an antiquated mindset that defames women and you can just put that in you pipe and smoke it.

Idopas UK
I'll ignore your rude name calling. I live among "red necks" and frankly they are the nicest people I've ever met.

Freedom has not come to your country or ours without a fight. Clearly Americans believe in fighting for our ideals by voting.

The question is -- if government leaders do not follow the law, and disregard our wishes reflected by our votes or if government has community organizations that can pad votes -- what should Americans do when the new government isn't following the voice of the people and the laws of the land? Our own declaration says -

"But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."

I think this is what many here mean, when they mention revolution.

It is the duty of the PEOPLE to make sure government governs under the law. Obama has repeatedly mentioned changing the law to suit himself. This is not government for the people. it is government for the government. This is tyranny.

The Supreme Court MUST Act On Barack
Subject: The Supreme Court MUST Act On Barack
Even if Obama wins, Americans must demand that the Supreme Court take up the birth certificate issue.

OBAMA IS A KENYAN. The proof is overwhelming. If he is elected, we have until January 20th before he takes the oath of office. So, if we find out before that time that he is indeed unqualified to assume office, then we will be saved from the start of an illegal presidency.

If he assumes office, and the same scenario with regard to citizenship takes place after the fact, then he has to be removed from office. Yes, VP Joe Biden would become President, and I certainly wouldn't be happy about it. But, at least Biden is an American by birth. UPHOLD THE CONSTITUTION!!!!!!!!

DCR
Re your (6:57am)post

If you can't do better than Scott Maclellan and Colin Powell, you oughta give that line of reasoning up.

It is amusing that obama supporters, sensing that he has won this, are extolling all of us to loyalty and decency. Should we look to y'all's treatment of President for a role model?
You should hope not.

Jo
Thanks for the rare polite and intelligent reply!

I tend to agree with you.

I wouldnt say you were a redneck I assure you. But its a bit rich when your fellow countrymen (and one jealous aussie), are being extremely rude to me. does that not count?

don juan
you wrote: "I don't have the freedom to speak any more; I only have a tenancy at will in what were, in theory, my rights. The government can punish me for my speech, and does so lustily when it serves their purposes."

Really? Please give us all some examples of youre free speech being shut down, and of the punishment you have suffered.


tick..tock..tick..tock...

auldsailor362
Ahm you are an aussie, or as close as.

Ok, no point debating with you. Aussies have had a rabid p*nis envy for the UK for centuries. I gues you never got over being criminals and having to live in a land filled with flies and desert.

I'll debate with the americans, first world country to first world country and ignore you if you dont mind.

Question
Will Americans Really Vote to Fundamentally Transform America?

The Lazy, The Stupid and The Gutless (i.e. Liberals) will.

REAL WORDS OF WISDOM
"During this political season let's be reminded of these wise words. You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich. You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong. You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift. You cannot lift the wage earner up by pulling the wage payer down.

You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred. You cannot build character and courage by taking away people's initiative and independence. You cannot help people permanently by doing for them, what they could and should do for themselves."

Abraham Lincoln

"Democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not."

Thomas Jefferson

"Government is like fire, a handy servant but a dangerous monster"

George Washington

"When the people fear the government, there is tyranny,
When the government fears the people, there is Liberty!"

Thomas Jefferson

"It is the first responsibility of every citizen to question authority"

Benjamin Franklin

"The strongest reason for the people to keep and bear arms is,
As a last resort to protect themselves against tyranny in government"

Thomas Jefferson

"Freedom is a fragile thing, and is never more than one generation away from extinction. It is not ours by inheritance, it must be defended constantly by each generation for it comes only once to a people. Those who have known freedom and then lost it, have never known it again."

Ronald Regan

KEEP THESE WORDS IN MIND WHEN YOU VOTE TODAY AND VOTE TO SAVE THIS REPUBLIC!

Matthew
Grow up. Youve never lived in europe for a start.

If you want to do a "smelly" with high death rates, then lets go for it. Half you godforsaken states, especially in the south, qualify.

You even have primary poverty and starvation in the south...we havent had that in western europe for a century.

I sugges you and one or two others get an education and then put your own house in order first.

ldopas (voice from the UK)
I lived in Germany. It's true that the streets were swept, but the polution is pathetic. Now there is graffiti everywhere. Same throughout Europe. How do I know? I go there every few months for business. You couldn't pay me to live in those small, dark, damp apartments that are built right upon each other. As for rednecks? I was born in Georgia...give me rednecks any day of the week! Nobama is going to wreck this country, but it's been wrecked before and we will survive this mess and come out stronger!

Do people read?
I have been reading many comments posted and have come to the conclusion that most have either not read the article or have and missed the point.

Mr. Prager's clarity couldn't be easier to understand.

Simply stated, the "grand theme" of BO's campaign (fundamentally changing America) is only shared by two of the six groups that Mr. Prager lists.

By Mr. Prager's own analysis, that means 66% of those who would vote for BO are NOT voting for 'fundamental change' but rather something else.

If you want to debate the something else, feel free....but at least let's be clear about what was written. As Mr. Prager likes to say, most who miss the clarity in this "Must Be College Educated".

Go Cavs!
IM the moron?

You have the temerity to say that, with your appalling grammar and spelling?

ldopas writes:
I vould talk about all the rednecks your side that will take up arms if, no WHEN McCain loses. We already know that your side has people who may well attempt to subvert democracy and try an attempt on Obamas life.

First, projection is a classic lefty tactic- no-one will assassinate the messiah from the right side of the aisle, but I have no problem imagining a disgruntled lefty who feels he's been ripped off( he was) taking out the betrayer.
As far as taking up arms, if BO even tries to organize and arm a civilian strong arm militia- then the idea that American patriots (who are already armed, thank you) will begin to organize as well is a no-brainer.
The same thing applies to reversal of the constitution and the bill of rights, either through a declared "state of emergency", or judicial fiat- there will be armed resistance.
I somehow doubt that the soldiers in the world theatre would willingly co-operate with an attempt to destroy the very concepts they swore to protect when they enlisted by going home to point their weapons at Americans who dissent- their brothers, fathers, sisters and mothers?
I will of course subvert the attempt to turn the republic into a democracy- a mob is a dangerous thing.

ldopas (voice from the UK)
Before you claim that someone hasn't lived in Europe, don't forget that a huge number of us were stationed over there to protect your sorry butts!

Obama's promises to us
The obvious contempt Obama holds for our Constitution and traditional American values is proven by his continual promise to change our country, fundamentally and ideologically.

Not only will religion be trampled, but also patriotism and a love of liberty will be discouraged, if Obama should win.

All of America will be anxiously awaiting the verdict.

bucs68
You ask: "Where is this love of coutry in the democratic candidate?"

It's pending the outcome of the election.

bburt
I don't know if you (9:00am) predictions will come true, but they COULD.
There are townhall geniuses voting for 3rd parties (because they're true conservative you see) who think all that can be undone next election...in my view, they bear the same responsilibity for what happens next ans the idiots who vote for obama.