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Sunday, July 05, 2009
David R. Stokes :: Townhall.com Columnist
Which Revolution?
by David R. Stokes
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Fast-forward 200 plus years and here we are remembering our revolutionary beginning. As we do so, let us beware of those who share our vocabulary, but use a different dictionary.

Are we still about the individual, personal, hard-fought-for rights: Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness, or does the cry: Liberty, Equality, Fraternity seem to increasingly be the spirit of this age?

The reason it has all worked and endured so well in this land is because we are a nation “under God.” There I said it. There is no real liberty without that. All attempts at actual freedom end up moving toward tyranny without some sense of higher purpose and power.

I believe firmly in the separation of church and state. But minus positive religious influence, a nation cannot long remain free.

Thomas Paine’s story should be a cautionary tale. He, of course, wrote Common Sense in early 1776, and it was by all accounts vital to shaping public opinion in support of our patriotic ancestors. He was a revolutionary. In fact, there is a new book out by Glenn Beck, bearing the title Common Sense, using Mr. Paine’s ideas as a springboard for his own thoughts about what is wrong with America and how to fix it. I have read Beck’s book and like it. But I certainly hope he doesn’t write a sequel, or at least delve further into Thomas Paine’s bag of literary tricks to make future points about saving America.

Mr. Paine helped us early on, but as he moved on and shared more of his thinking via his acerbic pen, he expressed ideas that, while probably resonating with some today, would in no way mesh with the spirit of 1776.

While Common Sense supported the ideas of freedom, small government, and even low taxes – all very much part of that old revolutionary spirit – by the time the French were acting out his writings became increasingly more radical. When parts one and two of his work, The Rights of Man, appeared in 1791 and 1792, he became a pariah in England and fled to France like where he was treated like a hero, being made an honorary citizen of the republic. But by this time, his writings advocated a progressive income tax, public works for the unemployed, and guaranteed minimum incomes.

And don’t even get me started on his next bestseller, The Age Of Reason; a rant against revealed religion. Paine died virtually alone and penniless in 1809. Only six people attended his funeral.

This of course, brings us back full circle to the thesis of this article – that concepts of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, expressed individually (the intent of our founders), can only keep from drifting toward collectivism when there is a spiritual impulse – or at least a spiritual pulse.

C. S. Lewis said it very well in The Screwtape Letters more than 65 years ago:

“Hidden in the heart of this striving for Liberty there was also a deep hatred of personal freedom. That invaluable man Rousseau first revealed it. In his perfect democracy, only the state religion is permitted, slavery is restored, and the individual is told that he has really willed (though he didn't know it) whatever the Government tells him to do. From that starting point, via Hegel (another indispensable propagandist on our side), we easily contrived both the Nazi and the Communist state. Even in England we were pretty successful. I heard the other day that in that country a man could not, without a permit, cut down his own tree with his own axe, make it into planks with his own saw, and use the planks to build a tool shed in his own garden.”

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David R. Stokes is a minister, writer, and broadcaster. His weekly talks at Fair Oaks Church in Fairfax, Virginia and host of Loud on Purpose, heard Monday to Friday in Washington, D.C. on WAVA 105.1 fm.
 
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NO and the deaths caused by Bush's war based on lies has gone a long way to commiting genocide in Iraq. Why did Bush INVITE THE TERRORISTS in to the most secularist country in the ME? There were none before he invaded. He said "Bring 'em on

"
" No - he would risk his life to defend the people of tyrannical abusive gov't.(our troops in the middle east)"

Bush wasn't QUITE that bad despite the mass deaths he cause in Iraq.

"Would Jesus abort babies?
No he believed in life."

I do not think that Jesus would want women to die for a fertilzed egg or embryo. In fact back then nobody even knew they existed. 500,000 women die each year from pregancy ever year around the world. That is SEVENTEEN MILLION since RvW. You, a woman, don't care that so many women die for embryos and fetuses who can't even think?

And something else you don't know: the abortion laws beginng with the FF'ers and continuing until the last 19th century the laws about abortions were much more on the side of the women.

As the USSC judge said when standing up for RvW. Apparently you haven't

" The list is vast. You my dear Marcia, are on the wrong side, if you wish to emulate Jesus."

The party of segregation, support for richie rich ceo's of often corrupt companies., that loves big banks that charge huge amounts of interest, and worse, has PayDay loan companies that charge between 200% and 700% interest on loans to desperate lower middle class families, that loves guns and shooting people with them, that loves wars and bombing people, says torture is good, that says raped women should be forced to produce a child for the rapist, and die rather than abort, even if the real baby has zero chance of survival is what JESUS wants?

I'm sure that Jesus would just loooooooooooooove gun owners like the far right man who invaded the Holocaust Museum and killed a black man.

who's who?

Jo
Location: FL
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Date: Jul 6, 2009 - 10:15 PM EST Marcia - MA
But I do admire Jesus who as against everything your party stands for. Marcia

" Would Jesus applaud theft by the government? (wealth redistribution)"

Yes. Not only that but the whole POINT of capitalism is to spread the wealth.

Paying taxes is NOT THEFT. YOu must have missed this from OUR CONSTITUTION - on the list of the list of thing that are basic:

TO PROVIDE FOR THE GENERAL WELFARE

Not to provide mostly for the ceo's of megarich corporations and the heck with the rest of us.

That's why the FF'ers revolted: In Britain there were royal families who had most of the weath and inherited it without paying any taxes.

You are on the side of the monarchs - you believe most of the money should be for the few richest, and the children and grandchildren should get a free ride from the money Daddy or Grandaddy made.

Thus we see all kinds of the children of the rich spending their lives in watering holes and casions IN EUROPE! Many of them are drug addicts who are shocked when they are caught in countries that are vicious about drug possession and mommy and daddy can't buy their freedom, as happens to often in the US. Cindy McCain who inherited $100 million from Daddy was addicted to Vicodin, a Big Pharma name for HEROIN.

If the Revolution was today, you would be the tories.

" Would Jesus stand by and allow genocide?"

No and slavery was genocide - millions of AFricans died in the hull of slave ships, and slaveowners has a RIGHT to kill their slaves (and rape them!) Almost all the Indians in what is now called America where slaughtered and their property stolen. MIllions of them. Jesus approved of THAT?



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