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Friday, May 23, 2008
David Limbaugh :: Townhall.com Columnist
The Real Obama OR Change We Don't Dare Believe In
by David Limbaugh
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Columnist Robert Novak reports that John McCain will not yield to Barack Obama's efforts to shame him into running a vanilla campaign. Instead, he says, McCain is lining up crack research operatives. Interestingly, their charge is not to gather dirt on Obama per se, but "to focus on the real Barack Obama." From where I'm sitting, that looks like one whale of a target-rich environment.

That is, McCain's operatives don't have to dig up dirt on Obama to damage his chances; they merely have to dig through the facade and uncover the real Obama. Even with the damning revelations concerning his association with the Rev. Jeremiah Wright and former terrorist William Ayers, I suspect Obama explorers have barely scratched the surface.

While Obama will continue to complain that an examination into his associations is dirty politics, it is anything but. We are known by the company we keep, and this goes for applicants for leader of the Free World as well.

But in Obama's case, the McCain researchers will just be getting started with Obama's sordid associations. Where he's really vulnerable -- the area where he most doesn't want you to find out who he really is -- is on policy.

Given his George Soros brand of extreme leftism, Obama will do his best to conceal his real policy self, except to the San Francisco environmental- and social-issues anarchists, the arts and croissants crowd of the Northeast Corridor, and the neo-Marxist professorial elite in academe. Of course, now that he knows microphones and bloggers can pop up anywhere, he won't even feel comfortable letting his guard down in these friendly venues to edify us about such things as small-town bitterology.

Not only is Obama highly vulnerable on policy issues across the board -- assuming people discover what he actually stands for -- but also his main policy weakness (national security) is made to order for John McCain to exploit.

It's obvious that Obama is sensitive to the charge that he's weak on security, but it's not clear that he quite understands why.

Dovish, isolationist types such as Obama don't view it as a weakness, but as a sign of enlightenment to believe that dictators can be schmoozed and persuaded into better behavior. Obama apparently believes Iranian tyrant Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has reasonable demands that can be satisfied and that he, Barack Obama, might be just the guy to satisfy them. "If I can change Iran's behavior … that's something that we should explore."

In his stump speech, he actually implies that we haven't made clear our position to Iran about its nuclear program or intermeddling in Iraq. I'm not the only one who picked up on that implication. One of his supporters, author Nancy Soderberg, confirmed on Fox News that Obama believes "you need to use your carrots and sticks to talk to (Iran)." We haven't told them, she agreed, that they must quit meddling in Iraq and developing nuclear weapons. I honestly couldn't believe my ears.

Isn't it ironic that effete liberals, who can't see the reality of evil staring them in the face, reckon that it is realistic conservatives who are reality-challenged?

Indeed, the hard left doesn't seem to think Ahmadinejad is that bad a guy or unapproachable. Remember the swooning of the elitist class when the Holocaust denier wrote President Bush a lengthy propaganda letter disguised as an invitation for a dialogue? It was a "thoughtful letter," they panted.

One would think it self-evident that the dictator, who refers to Israel as filthy bacteria, is up to no good and not approachable through diplomacy absent unilateral forfeiture of our best interests and those of our allies; that a one-on-one meeting with the president of the United States would send an enormously discouraging signal to our Middle Eastern allies, including American-friendly Iranians praying for the overthrow of this tyrant; and that you can't gain concessions from thugs such as Ahmadinejad through words alone -- uncoupled with action or credible threats of using force.

But these things are not self-evident to Barack Obama, who comes from the Jimmy Carter school of resolving all doubt in favor of our enemies, as he did when he blamed the Bush administration instead of NATO for NATO's failure to help us in Afghanistan.

Of a piece with this disturbing mindset of deferring to our enemies or other foreign nations is Obama's recent pronouncement: "We can't drive our SUVs and eat as much as we want and keep our homes on 72 degrees at all times … and then just expect that other countries are going to say OK. That's not leadership. That's not going to happen." Says who? By what authority?

To defeat Barack Obama in November, John McCain won't need to dig up dirt on Obama; he'll only have to introduce voters to the real Obama.

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Kimbat
You are just getting TOO predictable.

When your candidate acquires a resume' that could be printed on something larger than a matchbook cover, come talk to us about McCain.

You're stuck on stupid.

This SHOULD be a slam-dunk!!!!

If the libs, such as our little kimberly had half an education, and two functioning brain cells, they'd already KNOW that Bozo Obama is a M-A-R-X-I-S-T!!!!

And, if they knew Bozo Obama was a Marxist, it would... or should be... GAME OVER!

Unfortunately, we have an entire demo party that is completely uneducated (thank you NEA and the other teachers' union) and totally uninformed, and don't even know that Bozo Obama is a Marxist.





Primus: wobbie was buzzing around...

probably avoiding me. Somehow he can't bring himself to answer the questions....

Wonder why????


Kimberly
McCain has never been Bush's MiniMe, ever. He has fallen in line with Bush on some things and not on others. Each way he has gone, he has irritated segments of conservatives. He was opposed to Bush's tax cuts and voted against them. He fell in line with Bush's amnesty program. He has hardly been Bush's foot soldier. You need a new tact to be effective.

Bush only endorsed McCain after it was apparent that McCain had enough delegates for the nomination. Bush did it proforma as he is a member of the same party as McCain. I am hard pressed to believe Bush wishes him well. McCain had to accept the endorsement. I am, equally, hard pressed to believe McCain enjoyed that endorsement.

I don't think McCain is the same person he was in 2000. Time and experience changes people for better or worse. He was on the receiving end of horrible slander courtesy of the Bush and GOP machines. Remember when he was falsely accused of fathering an illegitimate black child.

Jeb Bush's political sway was not directed to McCain during the Florida primary; although Jeb Bush still has active followers.

The 'conservative' GOP talking heads still bash McCain tirelessly. He manages to shoot himself in the foot at every turn. While he polls fairly closely to Obama now, just read the posts here and decide for yourself if that will hold.

I'm old enough to tell you to be careful what you wish for. You may live to regret it along with a whole lot of conservatives. You may not find that commonality of anguish so attractive when the day comes.

Wobbie: There you are. So how about it?


Are you guilty of...
1. Impersonating an officer?
-----OR-----
2. Violating the UCMJ?

What a Moron this Obama is
He thinks he can smooth talk the Whackmadinajads of the world because he can convince the liberal, line towers in America to vote for him.

Why doesn't Obama go talk some sense into the Rev. J. Wright and see how that goes. He'll probably end up throwing the whole white side of the family under the bus, just as he would do to all of America if he 'talked' to the nut job Prez in Iran.

He and Hillary should team up. The Dumbest man in America and the Dumbest woman in America. Now touring all 57 states.

We still don't win with McCain, but the lesser of two evils gets my vote. I will not be un-American and sit it out.

Funny Robert
Who do you mean by "we", kimosabe.

Perhaps you could explain - since "you" no longer "need" people like me - why won't the GOP stop calling and mailing me solicitations for contributions?

I've told them why I won't - and that this really high-ranking GOP official named "Robert" told me I wasn't needed - yet that don't stop.

Can't you get this straightened out - Oh Mighty One?

Silly me...
Sorry for that question, Robert.

I forgot that by the time I check this thread tomorrow morning - your posts will have already been removed.

Never mind...

He fools a lot of folks.
The man is married to his mouth. Obama feels he can talk anyone into anything. True, he slides out of the grasp of Gotcha as good as anyone out there. He called his smelly house finance deal a Boneheaded mistake and got off the hook instantly. He gets a pass on most everything with that enormous flock of his. However if you are a regular reader of Town Hall you know the majority of the pundits are not with the man. You would think we McCain folks are home safe, but we really do not know do we?
Don Jones
MyManJohn.com

Out of his league
Obama is sooooo out of his league on foreign policy that he is still in the pee wee division. He will remain there until he realizes that he can't fascinate terrorists with his charm like he can the ladies on the campaign trail.


o
o

The Audacity of DOPE: cocaine user
Perhaps it's because the conservatives don't spend time around crack heads or drug users, but come on people, we don't need to dig far, is everybody asleep? If you'd just open your eyes, it's staring you all in the face:

Obama does DOPE.

Obama has been VERY clear about his past (and what I believe to be his current) DRUG USE, specifically cocaine, aka crack cocaine. Anyone who's been around those who blaze can see it easily. Guess I'll have to wait til it becomes apparent to everybody else.

Obama IS the party. He's bi. The liberal left know this and that's why they love him.

Wake up people !

JUST SAY "NO" TO "O"

You will never out the true candidate
Neither of the candidates will allow you to present their "true" self to the public. Obama is one slippery dude. He was careful to vote "present" while a member of the legislature on particularly controversial issues. He clearly was planning way back then for a run to much higher office. You can dig up stuff about associates, gaffes, wife's comments, etc.. but it all amounts to very thin, circumstantial evidence of his true self, which is presumably marxist and pacifist. McCain will have a very hard job here to show that Obama is a Bolshevik.

And keep in mind the Dems will try to do the same to Mcain. Right now they are peddling the "third Bush term" meme, and it may work, but if it doesn't the Dems will try to "out" the real McCain. And what is the real McCain if he isn't "McSame" (and he isn't)? Isn't he a real blood and guts military guy who sees military service as the highest possible calling, and who will accept huge civillian sacrifice to prevail in war? The prospect of fighting a true nuclear war to take out Iran, with the loss of US cities as collateral damage, may actually be scarier to the public than the prospect of Obama appeasing them.

Billionaire Buffett backs Obama

Will this help Obama?

Yahoo- Warren Buffett, the world’s richest man, is backing Barak Obama for US president and thinks current US economic policy will push the dollar lower against other global currencies

Buffett told a press conference here Monday he had offered support to both Obama and Democratic rival Hillary Clinton but that since it appeared Obama would win the party’s nomination, “I will be very happy if he is elected president.

“He is my choice,” Buffett said.

Commenting on the US economy, the 77-year-old investor who is known as the “Sage of Omaha,” stressed that fiscal, monetary and trade policies were of great importance.

read more

http://controlcongress.com/uncategorized/us-billionaire-buf fett-backs-obama-for-president

Dumber than a post
is anyone who thinks McCain has nothing to dig up. Wait for the general election, David. The media and their friends at the Kos will make Barack look like the reasonable alternative to a foaming madman who dropped bombs on BABIES, and stayed at the real Hanoi Hilton, not the prison camp!!! The allegations are already out there; just read some of the far-left stuff.

Mud will be slung by both sides. And the American people will take 15 minutes out from college football to vote for a President.

investigtion
mccain, who has been biting himself in the leg since he became presumptive presidential candidate for REPS> and here he goes againn. a VERY CURSORY examination of mccains past shows that hed better be very afriad of any knid of intense examination of past behaviour. start with Keating and his bunch. tons of obfuscation havent dimmed the lustre of this bit of graft, the least of which was nine complete vacations, for mcains entire family, paid for by Keating. Never paid back until Senated dtarted getting nosy and there was info that it would come out in the press. them Mccain found the money fast wenough. take a cracjk at the natur of the 5 (so Far) campaign aids who have resigned for possible nefarious activities, including shilling for the laders of mynamar. much more coming. obama can and will if necessary go one on one in this mud slinging .

McCain, Obama spar on GI bill

Did McCain go to far? Why is McCain against this bill?

YAHOO– Republican John McCain said Thursday that Democrat Barack Obama had no right to criticize McCain’s position on military scholarships because the Illinois senator did not serve in uniform.

“And I will not accept from Senator Obama, who did not feel it was his responsibility to serve our country in uniform, any lectures on my regard for those who did,” the Arizona senator said in a harshly worded statement issued Thursday.

McCain lashed out at Obama’s personal history despite Obama’s repeated praise of McCain’s military service. As Obama said Tuesday night in Des Moines, Iowa: “We face an opponent, John McCain, who arrived in Washington nearly three decades ago as a Vietnam War hero, and earned an admirable reputation for straight talk and occasional independence from his party.”

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http://controlcongress.com/uncategorized/mccain-obama-spar- on-gi-bill

Staying on subject
I sure wish people would stay on subject! This is about who is Obama - really? It scares the heck out of me that we do no know much about this inexperienced person. Do we really want to take this big a gamble to make him President without knowing about him? I don't! If you do not care to know any more than now, I have a nice bridge just a little NE of me I'll let you have for a nice price!

In North Carolina

Obama
is not fit to run for homeroom captain. I have heard all this piffle and persiflage for the past 40 years from children like him and it remains nonsense whatever you do to it.

Obama has admitted that he joined the Church of Whats Happening Now with no real Christian impetus and he still has none. How can a man like that (even if he believes he is the Second Coming) understand a man like Almadinijad who is perfectly willing, and eager, to destroy the world to bring on paradise?

Obama should read The Screwtape Letters. Or have someone read them to him. The rest of the country should read Luke 4 and discover the Puppeteer.

Forgive me...
for being less knowledgeable about the finer points of political pundantry. I am not someone who has studied political science. Instead, I am basing who I am voting for this November on my past experiences following blindly and supporting wildly any Democrat who ran for office.

Growing up in the 60's and 70's, I was swept up---like millions of today's young people---with what the Democrats promised. I loved McGovern-mania. He was my man---peace and love---and I refused to believe anything the Republicans said negatively about him (they were the evil Establishment). I enthusiastically supported McGovern only to amazed at how badly he was trounced. At that time I couldn't figure out why the rest of America couldn't see how wonderful this man was. I refused to acknowledge his ultra-liberal agenda as harmful to America, and I prayed for another chance to get a peace and love candidate to vote for. That chance came in the form of Jimmy Carter. I swallowed everything that man said on the stump and I voted enthusiastically for him.

Yippee!!! He won, WE won, and I was very satisfied. I got what I wanted in Jimmy Carter and throughout his 4 year presidency I even defended him to my friends and family when I saw the results of his failed domestic and foreign policies but refused to think they were as bad as the Republicans were making them out to be (at that time I was paying a whopping sky-high mortgage interest rate of 14.5%!!! and U.S. Americans were held hostage by the Ayatollah for 444 days and no amount of talky talky could rescue them).


Forgive me....(continued)
Day 1 of the Reagan presidency and our hostages were freed, and throughout the Reagan years I prospered! But I never gave Reagan props for that and 8 years later I once again celebrated when Clinton won and I sang along with the other dupes of that day "Don't stop thinking about tomorrow". Yep...tomorrow it would be all peace and love and I could rest assured that Clinton had my back and was looking out for me.

Wrong. After 8 years of a disgusting Clinton presidency I was finally older and wiser, no longer the Democrat groupie I had been for so many decades. I decided I would be open to exploring the other candidates' platforms.

That is when I stopped drinking the Democrat Kool-Ade and decided to vote for Bush. I found that I was not in favor of unrestricted abortions on demand, that I wanted to keep more of my hard-earned income, and I wanted a strong military to defend our great country.

I don't always agree with everything George W. has done, but he aligns more with what I believe today than Jimmy (talky talky with our enemies) Carter, Nancy (talky talky with our enemies) Pelosi, and Barack (talky talky with our enemies) Obama.


Forgive me...(continued)
The Obama groupies remind me of where I was in the 60's and 70's...blind to Obama's peace and love foreign policy mantra, his socialist domestic agenda, and his disgusting associations with the likes of Jeremiah Wright, William Ayers and his political sugar-daddy George Soros.

If he wins, I will wager that in the next 20-30 years some of those Obama-mania groupies will wake up like I did and regret that they didn't investigate and weigh the cost of what Obama's socialist agenda has done to America.

Today, we have very low unemployment and mortgage interest rates compared to the Carter and Clinton years, we have a robust economy and I have benefited from my investments. And we have a superb military, in spite of Clinton's attempts to weaken it.

And because of the Democrats policies and refusals to allow the U.S. to drill offshore or in ANWR, we are experiencing unprecedented gas prices. Stop the insanity and allow the U.S. oil companies to drill for oil so that we are less dependent on the Middle East oil.

I have no doubt some of the Obama groupies will grow up one day and eventually and see the error of their ways like I did. Let's hope it won't be too late.

mrbmrb
you are unreadable.

For Anne (#1)
Actually, wobbie is only guilty of...ham-acting as a US military officer (when his military knowledge is roughly HALF what one would get from watching Pauly Shore in "In The Army Now"--one time), and making an onager's rear-end of himself in the process.

Ace
Loved your posts, however, the problem as I see it is that if Ovomit wins, we won't have 20-30 years to regret it. It will be over my friend. To all my friends out there that are screaming "we won't vote for McCain". Be very careful, this could be your last opportunity to vote for anyone.

Ace
Welcome home...

Obama is

"...a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma."

midfielder 8:01am
Midfielder has a point in his post. I too am very scared of O'Vomit. After 30 years of Dumbocrap energy policies we will have $5.00 per gallon gasoline by August.

Regardless of a favorable SCOTUS ruling on Heller vs. DC, O'Vomit and his minions will go after our guns. O'Vomit's Middle East policy could be a nightmare.

It does not bode well for America.

Ace
Good points about the similarities with Carter. I see these parallels also; in fact I think we are at the cusp of a bit of a liberal resurgence, where conservatism again becomes frowned on and looked down on. I don't think it will be as bad as it was during the 70's due to the new media, but IMHO, I see the cycle starting.

To win in Nov.
Obama supporters must see these weaknesses and flaws and the strengths of McCain.And the entire GOP must realize McCain is a man,not OUR messiah. There is no perfect man to fill the role of POTUS. Weighing the 2 choices McCain is the only answer if we want to sleep soundly at night.

Boutte-hole
"The learned fool writes his nonsense in better language than the unlearned; but still 'tis nonsense."

-Ben Franklin

So much dirt on McCain? Really...
If there is so much dirt on McCain...as another poster alluded to...then where is it?? The man has been in the public eye for years. If there was so much out there I am sure the Demwits would have released it when tapes of the good Reverend (Wright) came to light. When the Democrats run a smear attack they are discussing the issues when a Republican does it..it's dirty politics. Gotta love it. Reading some of these post crack me up. The Independents that John McCain needs aren't going to fall for the Republican smears against Obama but they will fall for the ones against McCain because they are to stupid to realize the Democrats play just as nasty as the Republicans.

PS...Doesn't everyone feel sorry for me that I have to live in CT with a lot of Kimberly's?

David
There are many people,who do not believe in "GOD".But, he still exist.The "Change" is coming with or without Mr.Obama.Pull up your SLIP,it's showing!

Don't fret Ace
Our first vote, (forgive me and hubby, we were young and foolish and believed the daisy ad)was for LBJ.

Maybe I'm looking at the glass half full, but anyone think that this rise in gas prices could be a Godsend? The demonRat's approval numbers are waaaaay down, they are in charge and Bush can by, pointing out their failure to cooperate and allow drilling offshore and ANWR (of course now thats moot since the Envirotyrants successfully got the Polar Bear marked as endangered. I don't think its so much that they care about the bears or anyother animal, etc. This is just a way of destroying our country, marxism in green.) The DemonRats are controlled by those whose pockets they are in, and they bear the lions share of the blame for the high prices of gas and food and we should remind everyone we know about their participation in this attack on the middle class.

ALL
Just posted PART ONE of: "LIBERALISM is the TYRANNY of the FEW over the MANY!"

Invitation extended to stupid libstooges.

Try to dispute my premise...if you can ladies.

http://noliberalspin.blogtownhall.com/
Beating liberals like Canadians on baby seals!

Gray Ghost
And his love of the UN should be examined as well. This clown is nothing more than a political opportunist and socialist elitist. He'll fit in GREAT at the UN.

republicans
I wish the investigative team luck on their research----but most likely whatever they dig up will be ignored and deflected by Obama with a mere flicking of the "That's dirty politics" wrist. Obama followers, and run of the mill dems, aren't going to hear/believe it---see Ace's post.

McCain's, and the republican's need to start educating America on what Marxism really is and how it is diametrically oppossed to the American Constitutional Replublic. Then they need to present a logical American answer/platform that answers the problems of today. The republicans have had years to do this---sadly they are not doing it.

Could it be that they are not sure why Obama and his ilk are wrong? Could it be that they don't believe democrat/socialist policies are really dangerous to our way of life? Or maybe that they are just diluted enough to think that they too can "talk" to an enemy that wishes to end their way of life?

Daie
While I feel sorry for you being surrounded by "Kim Bat's, I'm glad they are THERE and not in Ol Virginny. Although if they WERE HERE, moonbat hunting might become the state sport!

Critics of McCain
have made much of his temper. Now, as more and more information is coming out, Obama also is guilty of the same problem.Witnesses describ real blowups, some on the verge of physical altercations. I am not surprised, although often cool and intellectual, he has increasingly shown a testy and short tempered manner. ( "wait a minute sweetie", "let me eat my waffle" and "lay off Michelle".)

That is the least of the concerns, however, given his long time propensity to be very comfortable around radicals. We need to probe how this has affected his thinking. Such probing will probably bring on the temper again and accusations at questioners of being preoccupied with "distractions".

beyond the pale
I've been saying it for YEARS!

Conservatives need to get into the bully pulput, whip off a show and pound the leecture with it, as they expose liberal scumbaggery LOUD and LONG!

GunnyG
I am from Virginia. I live in CT because my husband is stationed at the New London Sub Base. My parents still live in VA and from what they tell me VA is turning into a Moonbat state. From the last poll I saw 'the messiah' is winning in VA. Very depressing!

Ears Obama
He is nothing more than a rich arrogant socialist,and he has surrounded himself with the same types.As to Buffett supporting Ears, means nothing to me as he is nothing more than a rich liberal.His vote counts no more than mine.

Nice column
The bottom line is will conservative turn out for MCain and how many "moderate Dem" votes can he get.

It looks to me like the nitwit kids are actually gonna show at the polls for this charlatan.

It may come down to turnout among the "silent majority".

Your Obedient Servant,

George Washington

Obama is a blowback operation.
The plan for Obama to run originated with Bill and Hillary over the breakfast table. The people who pushed him, the Chicago Tribune and the Sun Times, knew all about Rev Wright, Tony Rezko, William Ayers, etc, and they kept silent about it, knowing it would destroy him in the general election even if he did win the nomination. Hillary knew all along that all she had to do was outlast the rest of the pack, and then, when she and Obama were the last ones standing, release the dirt on him. He's unelectable because of that dirt, but she never appreciated how hated she is, so even though he is unelectable, he's still beating her in the primary. She could still take it, but neither of them wins the general election.

Boutte
You wrote "The more of these feeble guilt-by-association smears we hear, the more uncommitted voters will conclude that McCain and the GOP have nothing positive to offer."

I do not consider Obama's associations with Wright to be smears. Obama himself recognized last year that Wright was a problem for him and relegated him to the basement hopefully to remain silently there for the duration of his run for the presidency. Didn't work.

Obama was not forthcoming with the American public about his participation at Trinity Church under the mentorship of this racist pastor for so many years, probably hoping no one would find out. Disingenuous to say the least. Wright came out of the basement and bit him.

As a Christian, I have attended my church for 10+ years now. My pastor doesn't rant or spew racist hatred from the pulpit, nor does he disparage the America that I love, warts and all. He does not call himself a European-American or establish a mission statement for our church that is pro-European nor does he blame anyone for the difficulties or struggles he has faced in his life. Yet Wright and Trinity Church are proud to describe themselves as African first, and blame white Americans for their difficulties and struggles.
(continued)

Boutte

As a Christian, I have attended my church for 10+ years now. My pastor doesn't rant or spew racist hatred from the pulpit, nor does he disparage the America that I love, warts and all. He does not call himself a European-American or establish a mission statement for our church that is pro-European nor does he blame anyone for the difficulties or struggles he has faced in his life. Yet Wright and Trinity Church are proud to describe themselves as African first, and blame white Americans for their difficulties and struggles.

Rather, my pastor encourages and leads a small 500+ strong congregation that is committed to reaching out to a hurting world to make a difference. We are actively engaged in 3 major world missions that we are committed to: Honduras, India, and Africa, and we have a national/local mission ministry that helps victims of Hurricane Katrina in Gulfport, Miss. as well as single moms, the working poor, and the elderly in Baltimore and our own backyard.

Our focus is not to throw money willy-nilly to the world's poor by taking from the rich to give to the poor, but rather we seek to empower the truly poor (3rd world country poor) by helping them establish micro-businesses as a means to feed their families and become prosperous in their own right instead of looking for some government to take care of them. We also help build orphanages for the 3rd world children who are truly the poorest of the world's poor to become educated citizens of their own country's.




Boutte
I see a big difference when I compare Jeremiah Wright to my pastor. The teachings my pastor provides to his congregation don't square with the teachings of Jeremiah Wright, even when viewed in context. If Obama sat at the feet of Wright for so many years, I have to believe that some of Wright's teachings rubbed off on him, and that is a huge concern for me. Wright's teachings don't square with what I have learned and read in the Bible. If I attended Trinity and heard those rantings of Jeremiah Wright, I would promptly pack up and find another church home.

I can do the comparison between Wright and my pastor because I read the Bible and it doesn't square with what I have read or what I have been taught by my pastor, a true man of God.

You might just blow me off as a typical white, racist, pro-European, Christian bigot and reply back to me with some snarky comment, but I know what I've heard from Wright, and it isn't the Gospel (Good News) that I've learned about the Jesus I know and what he taught. Obama must agree---at least in part---with Wright, otherwise he would have ran for the nearest door and found a true Bible-believing church with a pastor who is committed to teaching the Word of God. Or Obama is using Wright and his church for political purposes.

I am a Christian, and I will be voting in November, but not for Obama.

Personal mud not necessary
Just making public and clear what his stances are should be enough.

Two biggies:
-Drawing down our military and defense (we'll look to NATO and the UN should needs arise). Let the UN defend the US?
- Give an even bigger chunk of US taxpayer $ to the UN to combat global poverty. Let the UN administer US foreign Aid?

Sorry, he's got a "world" view, not an American view.
Send him to the UN. not to the oval office.

Today
In a world where people complain that they lost their electricity for a couple of hours. IN A WORLD WHERE THEY COMPLAIN WHEN IT IS OFF FOR 5 HOURS. In a world where they are on the local news if their electricity is of for a couple of days. Think of John McCain.

POW for 5 years. Arms broken and re-broken.

This is a tough job, Obama has no qualifications for it. He just came out of the cabbage patch and he has never explained how he will accomplish anything. He just says that's what he will do.

He is an arrogant piece of chocolate cream pie.

How LIBERALS solve problems...
Paul Kanjorski (D-PA)just hatched a plan to establish a "Reasonable Profits Board" in which the government will determine whether or not a company's profits are excessive. Sounds like SOCIALISM! Here is the moron's plan.

1. H.R. 5800 would tax industries' windfall profits.

2. The bill would set up a Reasonable Profits Board to determine when these companies' profits are in excess, and then tax them on those windfall profits.

3. As oil and gas companies' windfall profits increase, so would the tax rate for those companies.

Kanjorski said his legislation will encourage oil companies to lower prices to prevent them from receiving higher tax rates.

Are liberals REALLY this stupid? Now we know WHY Hal Drunkahue is so dumb!

http://kanjorski.house.gov/



loco - on temper
About temper: I have seen Mccain in what I would call righteous anger. I have no problem with that, and don't mind Mahmoud, Hugo and Vladmir thinking they're dealing with a guy who can get mad.
Obama's anger, you described very well. He gets "testy" (over having to answer too many questions for example). I don't think mahmoud would worry about "testy".
;-)

monique
and mccain is addicted to opium to which he was introduced while a prisoner of the Viretnamese (it really wasnt as bad as hed like to make youn believe). See how easy it is to make up ciomplete B------T and have it in PRINT> wow im an author. and you ar are an idiot.

Boutte
Disabuse yourself of The Keating Five. Bob Bennett, not to be confused with his brother Bill, was on the networks in the last two weeks discussing it. He was in charge of the prosecution of the Senators charged. Bob Bennett has been a prominent lawyer in the upper echelon Democratic circles for years. (Remember him during the Clinton impeachment?)

Bob Bennett said that, after reviewing the facts given him, he suggested that John McCain's name be dropped as there was no evidence of wrongdoing against him. The Dems were opposed to leaving McCain out as that would leave four Democrats to take the blame they rightly deserved. I didn't say it. I didn't make it up. The lawyer for the Democrats, Bob Bennett, was truthful enough to point it out, else I would have never known.

Find another dead horse to beat.

Real Obama
I heard from an friend that works at a certain office in Chicago that if Obama is not made President that he has told to many of his Rainbow friends that America will suffer. Obama has said that when he is President America will "change" seems to remember that someone in the last century in the early 30's in Germany also said the same lines and Germany did "change". Obama has made a lot of statements that when he is President certain people will get the American dream while others will get a nightmare. It will be very intresting to see if America will be on Nov. 5 still standing with President Obama or burn down with a differant President. I also hear in Chicago that Mayor Daley has already sign a "Shoot to Kill" if Obama friends in Chicago decide to burn Chicago down during the first week of Nov. Either in Joy or Sadness.
I wonder why the Supt. Joni Weiss is arming the police with assult weapons?
I wonder a lot.

Ace...
Welcome, my friend...

Your Obedient Servant,

George Washington

Thinking he can just sit down and talk
to dictators and persuade them to "be good" is a mark of sheer arrogance that we have come to expect from the Democrats. The natural reaction to their brilliance is to immediately cooperate and go along as we light a candle together.

William Jefferson Clinton will be the first to remind you about his "peace accords" between Arafat and Israel. Fat lotta good they did Israel since Arafat reneged on his terms while Israel stood by theirs.

I like Bibi Netanyahu's and Ronald Reagan's model of peace through strength. Why did Iran cough up our hostages on Day 1 of Reagan's first term? Why did Gorbachev acquiesce after Reykjavik? These foes recognized that RWR meant business and would never hesitate to punctuate his "talk" with firm and quick action. You didn't get that with Carter (failed hostage rescue in the desert) and won't get that with Obama.

BO the Useful Dhimmidiot
(Reprint)
So far BO is sounding and looking more and more like his closest ideological democrat sibling; the libs most revered Jimmy the Dhimmie Carter. BO is right on tract to be the perfect Useful Idiot for such socialist thugs as Hugo the Bozo Chavez and the new Fidel lite Raoul Castro. BO want to be just like old Jimmy; the worst ever president and ex-president. And since helping commies earns you the title of Useful Idiot (as per Lenin’s own words) then for helping Islamo Fascist thugs you should be rewarded with the Useful Dhimmidiot title.

Men oh men that will make all his old buddies so proud of him.

Go BO Go be the best BOZO we Know.

Obambi the Commie
The wheels are coming off of this train.

http://www.usasurvival.org/docs/chicago-obama.pdf


mrbmrb
You make up a 'fact', throw it out, and assume it furthers discussion. False assumption.

If you choose to call yourself an 'author', I don't mind. If you will kindly write in readable English I would prefer it as translating your posts, most times, takes longer than they are worth. Either improve your typing skills or type more slowly. At times, like that blind hog finding an acorn now and then, you have a point. Please stop obscuring it in indecipherable posts.

Royce&Roll
Great post.

Ode to B.O.

Bozo, Bozo
he's our man,
if he can't screw us,
no one can!

ApolloSpeaks
Phylo is a commie pure and simple. even time he vomits his pablum, it's straight from the commie manifesto.

Maybe it's a good thing these commie lovers are getting themselves out in the open. That way, we know who they are.


Will the Real Obama Stand Up
The loony liberal left plays its unceasing melody of insanity as it has done for the past two centuries. Karl Marx was offering the world "Change", Lennin, Mao, Ho Chi, Fidel, all of these fellow travelers offered "Change"; the same now proffered by our public enemy #1, Barack O, (a wolf in sheeps clothing)does.

The change they delivered was a serious reduction in the world's population of homo sapiens. The first batch of which were the loony liberals, the elitists, who had no firm foundation and lived by the moral relativism that is still their watermark. Although they helped elevate the monsters, they were recognized as not dependable in the strife and were eliminated.
Read the history and remember it or repeat the errors of the past. Socialism, Nazism, Communism, Islamism, all are no good for the human soul.

Who backs Obambi?
Chaplain Yee, enemy of the USA. He was charged with five offenses: sedition, aiding the enemy, spying, espionage, and failure to obey a general order. He was not convicted because the trial would have released classified info.

Yee will be a delegate to the 2008 Democratic National Convention from the 9th Congressional District of the state of Washington, pledged to support Barack Obama.

Here is a nice video of Yee, supporter of Husseini "wait a minute sweety" Obmabi lying on Syrian TV.

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/27990_Video-_Former _Gitmo_Muslim_Chaplain_on_Koran_Desecration

The US Army should have executed the varmint.

Kimberly
First of all, I apologize for the name-calling (re: Kimbat). Not a useful tool, is it?

However, I'd like to know the "flip-flops" of which you accuse McCain, and the attributions from where you find the "flip-flops."

Papaw
I wonder if the commies take over and they start killing the liberal useful idiots, can we wait until they kill the last one before we revolt? That way, we kill two birds with one stone.

Makes sense.

Test post
We are winning the war in Iraq.

POTUS to Ahmadinijad: "Shape up now or you will hang next".

GW

McCain & flip-flops
Flip-flopping superior to no positions at all.

Think about it.

Your Obedient Servant,

George Washington

OBUMMERS PEOPLE
brag about the "young voters" that drink his koolaid. Most of them can't find Nebraska on a map of the U.S. How the heck can we trust that they'll be "informed" voters. Military men and women excepted. I've talked with a lot of college age people who have no idea who Schumer, Boxer, Finestein, Peeloosley or any of the Socialist Congress people are or which party they belong to.
May God help us all!

Fighting Evil
I'd just like to see one of these effete "Progressives" try to talk a local bully/psychopath out of beating some kid up. Or maybe out of their religion, as in the FLDS church in Texas.
They're so naive, self-important and ignorant they can't see that maybe not all people think like they do...and this is from the crowd that believes in "diversity."
Such has it always been. The principle ascendence of their power has been that they are fully aided and abetted by the Main Stream Media who has capitulated to truth and nationalism, and plays only for lowest-common-denominator "news." of course, the fact that the MSM is populated by professed leftists is a huge part of that problem...long-live the internet and talk-radio as balancing antidotes.

We can win! but we must remain vigilant and take action!

Obama Appeasement NEWS FLASH
"Sources say that appeasment experts are bitterly complaining about the hours and working conditions!"

"Sources say appeasment experts now being hired from all over the world, have shorter hours, beter working conditions and higher pay than their American couterparts."

"Sources said yesterday that they have already developed a 7000 page document but their superiors are not satisfied with the progress they have made and want more production."

TED
It is a pathetic situation.
Now for a laugh?

While arguing with one about the socialist Agenda she was posting support for parts of, I posted it.

http://web.archive.org/web/20020215003619/www.dsausa.org/pc /pc.progag.html

She read it and said;
"Who are these people? They are crazy!"

What you see is what you get...
all this talk from the right by people like mr. limbaugh about finding the "REAL OBAMA" is hillarious...

I strongly suspect that the "REAL OBAMA" is
EXACTLY the one you see in front of you repubs/cons...

the problem is that you guys cannot believe
what you are seeing. that being that the charasmatic/inspirational Sen Obama and his staff have come out of nowhere, unexpetely upset the applecart and are running a brilliant campaign, that has the formidable
Clinton machine on the ropes of defeat to win the dem prez nomination and has the momentum that would propel him into the white house over
the morose repub sen. McCain.

like I said what you see is what you get!!

Sung to "La Bamba"
With apologies to Ritchie...

Why did you lie Obama?
why did you lie, Obama?
Did you think you just had to?
If you knew we were listening,
then you'd know that we could detect the truth?
Why, Obama
Lie, Obama?

What about your pastor?
What about your pastor, the Reverend Wright?
Did you say you weren't listening?
Didn't know he was so far from the right-
Left wing leaning,
He's a meanie!

What did you say Obama?
lay off my wife - Obama
says it's uncouth,
says it's all just a mistake
says she don't really mean those words.

Why, Obama
Lie, Obama?

That was fun!!

War on terror policy...
...in 50 words or less.

Announced with major 30 second speech by POTUS, printed on millions of leaflets and dropped all over the Middle East.

1) No murdering Americans.
2) No incitement to murder Americans.
3) No harboring violators of rules 1 and 2

Violate any one of the three rules and fire will immediately come down upon you from the sky.

Obey these three rules and no fire.

Your Obedient Servant,

George Washington

P.S. ....to nitwit liberals...."Easy Button" solutions provided anytime to all of your hopelessly complex problems at no charge...provided free as a humanitarian service.



NEWS FLASH
This just in "Experts say that Obama will make an announcement soon that 'Air America' will be replaced with 'Ears America' which will broadcast the Obama speeches 24/7."

Some experts believe the move was due to the demands of "wipers" who are demanding more jobs".

The "wiper" industry has flourished with Obama followers who go into involuntary orgasms while listening to Obama prophesy about 'Hope' and 'Change' need wiping.

"'Wiper' spokesperson said the 24/7 broadcasts of Obama speeches brings 'Hope' to the 'wiping' industry as thousands of jobs will be created."

Retired Geek
Word has it that Obambi has to be tied down when outside in strong winds ere his ears fly him off to the Land of Oz.

SPECIAL ALERT hot line number
The 'wipers' industry has just releashed an emergency hot line number for those listening to 'Ears America'.

dial INE-EDW-IPED or I NEED WIPED

operators are standing by.

Para hablar en Espanol Oprime el Numero Uno

Press 2 For English

The real Obama:
Why is the media so silent on the fact that Obama is a Muslim, his whole family is Muslim, and that he only converted? to Christianity after he married Michelle. Where do you think his sympathies lay?

LA: What you see
is what you get?
The rest of his campaign will be about backpedaling on things he said at the start (when y'all fell in love with him).
You probably won't notice it, but others will.

GunnyG-Primus-GWashington-RGeek-Others
The number of people STUPID ENOUGH who attribute VAST KNOWLEDGE & POLITICAL NEUTRALITY to Barack Hussein Muhammad Obama when his ACTIONS & ASSOCIATIONS DREICETLY CONTRADICT these assumptions is ALARMING! I give you post of The King of The Mental Midgets, Left Angle, as proof.

As for ‘Hope’ and ‘Change’, if I was Barack Hussein Muhammad Obama, I would HOPE I could CHANGE wives!

NEWS FLASH
Diversity and Politically Correct Police along with feminazis across America are joining forces for a million person march on the Airline Industry.

Spokespeople for the organizers say that the Airplane is especially offensive to Muslims!!!!

They say if the Airplane was stood on its tail it would 'look a cross' and that is offensive to not only Muslims but to every American because of 'Separation of Church and State' -since the Airline industry is regulated by the government.

Airline executives have been summoned before a Congressional Committee to determine if Airplanes should have their wings removed.

The REAL Obama in debate...
Commentator:

Sen. Obama there are people out there who believe you are "misrespresenting yourself and watn to know who the REAL OBAMA IS. CAN YOU TELL US?

Sen. Obama:

"you know I have heard this before so let me drop the facade and tell you who I REALLY am..

I am ACTUALLY a far left radical closet dictator with close ties to mideastern radical islamofascist, who have intent of overthrowing the u.s. government and installing a new system
of marxist, socialistic/communistic one party government with myself as cheif dictator. We will kill or deport all repubs/cons.

Me and my associates absolutely HATE THE U.S. so, we figure the best way to infiltrate the U.S. government and overthrow it is by me first being elected potus by fooling the american people about my intentions. THATS THE REAL OBAMA...ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS...?"


you repubs/cons are too funny..rotlmao

Left Angle
You Liberal Dopers are TOO STUPID!

Dougg: You bet we are scared! And, if
you had a functioning brain cell, or two, and a clue, you'd be scared too.

If you had a functioning brain cell or two, and just a bit of an education, you'd know that Bozo Obama is a Marxist....


If you had a functioning brain cell or two, and just a bit of an education, you'd know that every word out of Bozo Obama mouth is right straight from the Marxist handbook.



Monique
I have no idea,as to what you have in your "MOUTH", but there is absolutely NOTHING in your brain.President Bush used cocaine and admitted doing same.I know it is HARD, to talk with your MOUTH full, but please try.Or have that thing taken from your mouth!!!

Hey Anne!
Thanks for the creative response. I appreciate it. Bozo, huh? Are you pretty proud of that one?

ANNE: a response..
got your rations packed away in your bombshelter..?

you know it obama is elected potus..

ITS THE END OF THE U.S. AS WE KNOW IT!!!

LMAO

Dougg
Yes, I find the prospect of Barack Obama in the White House quite scary. Don't you?

Really??
I honestly do not understand why you are all so scared of Obama. Do you really believe that his foreign policy could be any more damaging than George Bush's? Has he ever said that he wouldn't use military force against Iran? No. He has just suggested that diplomacy should be used first. How is that not a logical tactic? Brent Scowcroft agrees:

Asked by the questioner if the next president should meet with the likes of Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, Scowcroft said: "Absolutely... It's hard to make things better if you don't talk."


Iran Policy
Hit the "Easy Button".

POTUS to Ahmadinijad: "Shape up now or you will hang next".

Your Obedient Servant,

George Washington


Amazing
Are you simple? Surely you don't honestly believe that is how a conversation would actually go, do you? I understand what you're doing and I suppose it serves your argument well to say that, but I know you really don't believe it. You can't be that simple.

Lots...
of typical white people on this website.

Your Obedient Servant,

George Washington

Huh?
Typical white people? I don't follow you?

doug: repubs/cons are scared
because they think if obama is elected potus, he's gonna take away their guns/arsenals..lol

its a funny thing about conservatives, they are very paranoid...

if a liberal has a gun it's maybe one for home protection or another for hunting..

conservatives have ARSENALS at their disposals with racks of ammo...

it's like they are expecting an invasion.

You're wrong Mr. Limbaugh.
"To defeat Barack Obama in November, John McCain won't need to dig up dirt on Obama; he'll only have to introduce voters to the real Obama"

Wrong.

The people who will vote for Obama know the real Obama and he is right up their alley. If McCain should find out even more facts that spotlight Obama's liberal regime there will outbreaks of communal ecstasy.

You are right, Doug...
I oversimplified. I would actually say the following to Ahmadinijad: "Shape up now or you will hang next, and, by the way, any of you other guys who are supporting this guy, we're coming after you with Predator drones armed with Hellfire missiles. If you act quickly, depose this nut, publicly denounce terrorism, and give up your quest for the bomb, you may continue to live".

Any other questions? That's about as simple as I can make it for you liberal nitwits. I like simple. Simple is nice and, well, simple, and has the added benefit of being simple to understand, even for Islamofascist nuts and Democrats. Why must liberals make everything so complicated?

Your Obedient Servant,

George Washington

it's like they are expecting an invasion
No, their waiting for the revolution.

How I long for the days...
when swatting away liberals was actually still fun?

Their utter foolishness and the transparency of their arguments is now such that it's just not as much fun anymore, you know?

I mean, hard to get any real mental excersize debating with these guys anymore.


Goldilocks...
You sure got that right!

George Washington

Complicated
Things are not always as simple as we would like them to be George. Foreign Policy is complicated. I guess the thing I don't get about your view is you are only able to see in black and white. No shades of grey. You think since Obama has said he would speak with Iran, he has no intentions of following up with military force if needed. He has never said he is against war, only against foolish war. Invading Iraq has proven to be a foolish war. If there is something we can do to prevent entering into another foolish war (that we are not equipped to deal with given our current troop levels in Iraq), what would the harm be?

GWashington-Anne
I didn't think it was possible, but the Liberals are MORE STUPID today than usual. Check out Left Behind saying Obama is a tough guy. He is only doing that because there is NOTHING in the way of accomplishments by Obama that he can point to. Anyone with ½ a brain can see what a Gutless Wonder he is; his wife is the one with the stones in that family. Barack Hussein Muhammad Obama may wear the pants in that family, but only after Michelle tells him which ones to wear.

TO ALL THE PATRIOTS POSTING HERE
"We cherish too, the Poppy red
That grows on fields where valor led,
It seems to signal to the skies
That blood of heroes never dies."

I know that only the true patriots of this country will know what this poem means. So please enjoy your weekend, and say thanks to a vet and send prayers for the past, present and future ones!

HAPPY MEMORIAL DAY
God keep you safe

Dougg...
You seem like a fairly reasonable guy. I am interested to learn just how much we might be able to agree on.

I must confess that I dramatize for effect on this website at times.

Of course, you are right, foreign policy is complex.

My thought process begins with the idea that there are only a few rules which, are absolutely inviolable. These relate to the national security of the United States and the safety of its citizens.

These rules are pretty simple and straightforward, really. Do not attack our country or our allies. No killing American citizens. No incitement to kill Americans. No harboring or supporting these activities. No possession of or development of weapons of mass destruction by groups or states that engage in these activities.

Would you agree so far, Dougg?

Proceeding from that departure point, many things become possible. Negotiation of virtually anything else is appropriate, consistent with the above, in my opinion.

I'd welcome your thoughts. Please elaborate.

Your Most Humble and Obedient Servant,

Chuck

Ssgt
BACK AT YOU AMIGO :)!


SSGT...
I salute you, sir.

Chuck

Retired Geek...
...your 1:06...that's not half bad...I like to write political satire in my spare time...I'm collecting some of the stuff in the form of columns for a potential book...mind if I use your basic idea (airplanes as offensive to Muslims...shaped like a cross...wing removal, etc.) and expand it into a comedy/satire piece?

Your Obedient Servant,

George Washington

Left Angle and Self Assessment
Left Angle wrote:"...I am ACTUALLY a far left radical closet dictator with close ties to mideastern radical islamofascist, who have intent of overthrowing the u.s. government and installing a new system
of marxist, socialistic/communistic one party government with myself as cheif dictator. We will kill or deport all repubs/cons..."
================================================

Lefty who are we to argue with your self assessment?

Lefty you know yourself much better than we do!

george washington my friend
The pleasure would be all mine!

I just ask that I might get to read it sometime grin.

Carry on Soldier!

Dougg and getting his butt kicked
You had better be careful making fun of the conservative women here.

They will 'kick' your butt until your orifices swap locations. You will defecate from your mouth and speak from your anal orifice.

Anne is one mean gal if you get her mad - better back off or you will be sliced and diced - our women are warriors!

Read the manual for dummies on "Sex with inflatables" and "Gonad protection 101" I think you may need the knowledge.

BTW, Why did your Doctor have both hands on your shoulders during your last prostate exam?

GunnyG - Bumper sticker suggestions?
How about a friendly bumper sticker contest open to all to get ready for the upcoming election?

The winner gets… the last laugh :)

Entry #1: Don't hold your nose
Just say no to B.O.

You have to admit that this one doesn't stink!

Dougg..by the way...
...when I said that there are lots of "typical white people" on this website I was jokingly referring to comments make by Mr. Obama referring to rural white voters who he believes are "clinging to their guns and Bibles", etc.

So what I meant was there a quite a few posters here who are quite proud to own firearms and fear God.

We are graced with the presence on this website of a number of past and present servicemen and servicewomen who, as we approach this special holiday weekend, I personally would like to thank for their service to our great country.

For all of its faults, I truly love this country, Dougg, and I fervently believe that America is still a noble experiment, an ongoing and evolving social science project whose has as its ultimate goal not the perfection of mankind. I believe mankind is essentially good, but irretrievable flawed. Rather the great experiment that is America is whether free men and women can govern themselves, and peacefully resolve their differences to lead productive lives and find happiness for themselves and those they love.

God bless America, and God bless our servicemen and servicewomen.

Your Obedient Servant,

George Washington

Geek
You seem to be obsessed with orifices. What's going on there? Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm trying to have a civilized discussion with my friend George Washington.

Ace welcome to the Warrior Army
We are not runners or appeasers!

We are the 'Great Sleeping Giant' that is beginning to awaken.

Don't worry about the Cowards on the Left - they are Paper Tigers who rant at everything because they have NO solutions for anything.

They have 'logic' dsylexia and 'myopic' reason many of them know a lot of things but everything they know is wrong.

The Lefties are the first to run whimpering and screaming for help when danger comes.



Royce&Roll
Regarding bumper stickers....how about.....

Ahmadinejadobama

Your Obedient Servant,

George Washington

George
I would agree with you on your foreign policy rules George.

But, within those rules, there are, as I stated earlier, shades of grey. Do you invade a country for supposedly enriching uranium (keep in mind the findings of the latest NIE)? Do we invade a country for supplying weapons to another country? Now, I am in NO WAY defending Iran. But the way I see it, the reason Iran is arming Muqtada's Army is so they can have well equipped militias to counter attack our troops in the event we invade Iran. Doesn't there seem to be a correlation between saber rattling against Iran and the Mehdi Army being better equipped?

Again, I am by NO MEANS defending Iran. All I'm saying is sometimes there are alternatives to war. War should be a last resort. This situation is not as cut and dry as some on this website would have us believe. There are nuances.

By the way,I support our troops 100%. After reading Paul Reickhoff's excellent book Chasing Ghosts, I began donating to veterans of Iraq and Afghanistan. Just because one doesn't agree with the war in Iraq, doesn't mean they don't support the troops fighting and dying there. I happen to have friends over there right now.

Dougg
"Islam can be compatible with the modern world. It can be a partner with the Christian & Jewish & Hindu & Buddhist faiths in trying to create a better world." Barak Obama 2008 Democratic Compassion Forum at Messiah College Apr 13, 2008

compatible = capable of existing together in harmony.
Islam is a 700 AD religion and has NO rights for women.

partner = to join as a partner.
Islam and the Jewish religion partners?
================================================

Of all the things Obama has said this is by far the dumbest.

Obama thinks Hamas and Iran can become partners with America and Israel?

“At the “World Without Zionism” conference held in Tehran in October 2005, as the crowd chanted “death to Israel, death to America, death to England,” the Iranian President Ahminajead said...with the help of the Almighty, we shall soon experience a world without America and Zionism, notwithstanding those who doubt.”

Obama is talking about negotiating with the madman from Iran who has stated in no uncertain terms that America and Israel will be destroyed im Ahminajeads lifetime?

What is Obama going to say "I am all ears?"

Bumper Sticker
[Fools Rush In - Go Big 'O']

Bumper Sticker
[Appeasement a Liberal Tradition]

Subject: Left Angle and Self Assessment

Left Angle wrote:"...I am ACTUALLY a far left radical closet dictator....

Left Dangle we know that all you Lefty weenies actually live in the closet and some of you once in while come out of it, but don't worry we didn't ask and you don't have to tell.

My Dear Dougg...
I agree with you that we should wage war as a last resort. Wars are not fought on websites. Real people die.

I also agree that the Bush administration has made a number of tactical errors in fighting the battle of Iraq. I have a feeling that we may not have the same understanding of where things stand exactly on the world stage.

We are engaged in a low-intensity world war, and have been since 9/11. Our country is in serious jeopardy if the radical elements among the Islamic nations are allowed to continue along the path which they have embarked upon. The war is really a battle for the heart and soul of Islam, and whether the 2.5 billion adherents will join the modern world, or be convinced to follow the leadership of fanatics.

I have termed it the Battle of Iraq because I am convinced that we may have to fight other "battles" in order to defeat the fanatics and welcome peaceful Islamic societies into the family of nations.

The basic problem with Mr. Obama's notion of negotiating with the Islamacists is that it doesn't force them to concede the basic rules I mentioned in my last post.

Mr. McCain, whom I have many reservations about, understands that we can never negotiate about murder, incitment to murder, etc.

We must demand no less than total acceptance of these basic principles. Once such acceptance is obtained, we can then negotiate.

There is no way to escape the basic logic. The fanatics do not care about right and wrong. They obtain new adherents in their societies by defying these rules of civilized behavior.

We must force the fanatics to accept civility or kill them, slowly but surely. This is the only way we can will the war for the hearts and minds of 2.5 Muslims.

Yours,

George Washington

Primus54 is TOTALLY RIGHT!
Kimbat - you retard! Stop trying to prove evolution by slowly evolving throughout this whole campaign. Your obvious lack of competence and knowledge indicates to me that some people really are just stupid…or as Primus54 stated so eloquently, “stuck on stupid.” – thanks Kimberly for your unsolicited advice about politics, although the rest of us would get better advice from a chimpanzee in heat.

Go McCain! And let’s say Chuck Norris for VP just to really put you over the edge!
--Maverick

Barack Hussein Obama..Useful Idiot.
Unless McCain can dig up a corpse or two with Obama's fingerprints or DNA proving he killed them,McCain may as well be barking at the moon.It will NOT stick.Nothing else has.

Who else could have crawled out from under the stupid things BHO has said and come out clean?If McCain had said a fraction of the dumb things BHO has said,he would have been ridiculed night and day.

The news media,just overlooks his gaffs or corrects them and lets them pass.Double standard,anyone?

Real Obama
I just feel that the MSM is so entrenched with Obama that we could dig up a corpse in Obama's back yard with Obama's DNA on it and they still would not mention it to anyone.

I feel this country has been taken hostage by the MSM and the people have also been brainwashed into thinking their way. There are too many DUH moments not to realize this.

McCain needs to focus on change, real change, not just mentioning it without any substance for the people to respond to him. I feel McCain has made a good point in removing the federal gas tax for the summer. Yes, the government will lose many tax dollars, but hope in the people is much more important.

A few more Bumper Stickers
A few more entries:

- Go BO Go
be the best Bozo
that we know
(an oldie but goodie)

- With BO how low can we go?

- Hussein Obama the Islam-Hoe-racist

- Obambi the Useful Dhimmie

- Don’t let BO take your Dough


Bumper Stickers and such.
I saw some bumper stickers on another site that I thought were great. I can't remember where they were and once again these are not my ideas. I wouldn't want to take credit for something I didn't come up with.

Obama 08 Hope, Change, White Guilt

Obama 08 Hope he leaves you some CHANGE.

Obama 08 Because it's the Wright thing to do.

There were more but I can't remember them all. Maybe someone else on here can remember what site they were on.

Here's mine-Obama-He makes Hillary look good!

I would really like to know how Obama can succeed with Iran where others have failed. What's he going to do?? Use some harsh language, ask for a group hug and then everyone sings kumbaya???

Bumper Stickers
1.Barack Does Crack
2.Obama,Where's Gramma?

Retired Geek
Check you history during WW II it was the conservatives who were the appeasers, thank god we had FDR, otherwise we all might be speaking German Now.

Wounded Knee
Are you sure you are not talking about Fox News Coverage of the Bush Administration. If you watched that network enough you might actually think we have been winning all along in Iraq and that WMD'd had been discovered.

Wounded Knee
It is interesting. They did a survey in which they tested people knowedge of actual events in Iraq and cross tabulated it with the repondents primary news sources. Interestngly enough those who had the most accurate picture got their news from NPR. Those who had the most distorted knowedge of the facts watched Fox News. There are only two possible conclusions to draw from this study. That people who watch Fox News are dumber or that Fox News makes you dumb.

JM051
...and just who did that infamous survey...NPR? CNN? CBS? NYT? Who?

Empty promises
That's all you will get from Obama. But the dimwits of all different stripes just blindly follow him, enraptured with all his empty promises of goodies for everybody, and "change, change, change America". Change to what, I ask.

It reminds me of the old tale of the Pied Piper, with all the children (e.g. empty heads) following after him. Just that Obama uses his silver tongue instead of a silver flute to bewitch the foolish and undereducated to follow him.

I think that his gloss is beginning to fade, as Hillary is showing more strength as time goes on toward conclusion of the primaries. She supposedly has some knowledge about Obama to bring him down. June might be a very interesting month!

Compared to Obama, Hillary is beginning to look better all the time. Although I'll vote for McCain as the lesser evil of all three of them.

Last Ray of hope... and FoxNews rocks!!

the real obama
what would ronald reagan have done. i do recall when i was on active duty, and stationed in germany and we lost those 200+ marines in lebanon, i don't recall our most outstanding repub avenging on hair for that loss of lives. and again reagan was good to us old vets. if i remember it just had a wait and see attitude, did not talk of revenge. i also remember when bill clinton wanted to do something about the middle east, his repubs in the congress at that time accused him of trying to start a conflict to take our minds off a matter that should have been settled between spouses. as a vet i know that obama has the right ideas. fdr, rmn, rr would have done the same things. we are already negotiating with our enemies. there is china, russia and the saudis. what makes them so special? john mccain will do the same should he be elected potus. stop the spin.

manchurian candidate
was listening to the 'savage nation" the other night and he to paraphrase, call mcain that name in reference to him referencing either chairman mao or chou en lou on one of the late night shows. is this true? please say it isn't so. also i saw today where he dropped two of the christian right conservatives he had been courting for some time.

Obama - McCain
well what do you know, Obama is a fruit cake and McCain is a Commander of Faith, Constitution and Liberty for all.

Please look at all the facts before you vote, you could put all America in danger and that will include those who vote for the fruit cake.

Joy

Joy
I "Hope" your children are better Human Beings than you are.An "OLD" woman should have more class than you show.How are we suppose to model ourselves after people, that are older,when they are so PATHETIC?God loves you.I can't speak for anyone else.SAD...

The face of evil
I'm looking at the face of evil all right. It's right wing extremists. The GOP is heading straight for the gutter because it's what they do best, and it's the only chance they have. To think america is going for four more years of Republican rule after the last eight begs credulity. Obama could vacation until the election and still win. Get a clue. It's all over but the crying.

WHO IS OBAMA?
"I FOUND A SOLACE IN NURSING A PERVASIVE SENSE OF GRIEVANCE AND ANIMOSITY AGAINST MY MOTHER’S RACE."...... "To avoid being mistaken for a sellout, I chose my friends carefully. The more politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos. The Marxist professors and structural feminists and punk-rock performance poets." - 'Dreams of My Father' - BO

"I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction." - 'The Audacity of Hope,' title from a Rev Wright sermon - BO

Republicans don't have to dig for much - Read his books.

patriotic
This is what is so baffling to me.This man has told everyone who wants to check his writing,what he believes and how he will try to govern if elected.

What do these people think he will do? Change his life-long beliefs? Do they agree with his racists beliefs? Mind-boggling,to me what they are thinking.

This is a disaster in the making.Folks will say they didn't know what he believed.He is telling them...they are not listening.They are in a swoon at his feet.

The smelling salts will be the far left-wing,socialistic programs he is advocating.Our only hope is that congress will put the brakes on him.I don't see that happening,though.

Superdelegate Maxie promotes change
Change

Hope

Steal

http://en.sevenload.com/videos/5R0Ex3l-Waters-oil


Who is Obama?
Patriotic, I wish we could convince Obama's followers to read his book and "see" the real Obama. If only his media would tell the truth about him.
The World Poverty Act he sponsored is about to be voted on. Rather than continuing our generous donations to third world countries, Obama's bill would make it a law (forever) that a percentage of our GNP would go to banish world poverty. We hard working Americans will be providing welfare to those here in the US AND the entire world.
This is what he BELIEVES! My family has a hard time now paying taxes, 3 sons in college with no financial assistance (sorry Michelle, many of us have to pay our own college bills!), etc, etc. I definitely want to help those that truly need it, but enough with the laws telling me who and how much will get my hard earned pay!

KIMBERLY, KIMBERLY, KIMBERLY
You liberals insist on riding the 'third term of Bush' to define McCain's run for the White House. How simple of you.

While you 'coastal liberals' are busy making fun of conservatives, we 'hayseeds' will be electing the next Republican President.

So put that in your bong and smoke it!

Obama/Saul Alinsky/communist
You want to know who Obama is???? He is a Marxist liberal, trained and continuing the path of the late Chicago. His organization, Industrial Areas Foundation is where Obama was trained as a "community organizer".

Watch Obamas tactics and listen to his phrases. They follow Alinskys philosophy. It is the"haves versus the have nots" and this country will be constantly nagged and people will be labelled and pegged, just like he's doing now, in segmenting people according to their color or social status and the so called "haves" will be to blame for every problem in the country. Alinskys methods use the divide and counquer technique, and in the pursuit of power, ethics are cast aside.

Notice how Obama is so "offended" and demands apologies??? Has he apologized for anything? heck no, but he's judging his opponents statements. He's setting the agenda and defining the discussion and according to him, HE is the only one who has all the answers.

I cannot understand the American people falling for this fake. Rhetoric? He stammers and hedges when asked a question. Without a script, he's lost.
He's hiding his Alinsky connection and there are too many anti Americans surrounding him.
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