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Friday, January 16, 2009
Burt Prelutsky :: Townhall.com Columnist
Gays and Atheists Joined at the Lip
by Burt Prelutsky
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Recently, I noticed a similarity between atheists and homosexuals that hadn’t occurred to me before. It has to do with the way they wage their wars. Basically, they erect straw men, put words in their straw mouths, and then engage in battle with these creatures they’ve cobbled together with spit and glue.

It just seems to me that it’s high time we began setting the record straight. To begin with, there is no such thing as homophobia. A phobia is defined as a fear or anxiety that exceeds normal proportions. Concocting the word was simply a rather sly way of suggesting that it is heterosexuals who are deviant. The other lie that is parroted with some frequency is that those who don’t fully support the gay agenda are most likely latent homosexuals, which is supposed to suggest, I assume, that lurking inside every heterosexual man is an interior decorator screaming to get out and do something about those curtains.

Odd, isn’t it, that you never hear about latent heterosexuals?

Even the ancient Greeks, to whom modern-day gays enjoy comparing themselves, never engaged in anything quite as bizarre as same-sex marriages.

The proof that heterosexual men aren’t all sitting around fantasizing being seduced by Boy George or Richard Chamberlain is that every heterosexual man I know prefers having his cavity worked on by a dentist than by a proctologist.

Homosexuals like to picture themselves as the innocent victims of the oppressive majority. The recent unpleasantness on behalf of same-sex marriages doesn’t happen to be a response to laws depriving gays of any rights or privileges to which they are otherwise entitled. They are as free as they’ve always been to marry members of the opposite sex. For several millenniums, everyone has understood marriage to mean the sacred union of a man and a woman. I have asked on more than one occasion if the institution of marriage is to be turned on its head to accommodate the ludicrous demands of a very small number of people, on what moral or legal basis does society than deny fathers and daughters, mothers and sons, or, say, your cousin Phyllis and a dozen Elvis impersonators, from tying the knot. If the parties merely need to be consenting adults, on what basis could you prevent Hugh Hefner and his bevy of blonde companions from pledging their troth before man and God? I have yet to receive a response.

One other point should be made. In spite of all the rioting and all the whining in the wake of Proposition 8, only a few thousand same-sex marriages have taken place in Massachusetts, Connecticut or even here in California, where it was permitted for a while. And most of those marriages involved lesbians. Yet the way their male counterparts have been carrying on, you’d have thought the gay bars had all been padlocked.

This brings us to atheists and their own brand of hypocrisy and lies. It’s silly enough when they feel they can use logic to disprove the existence of God. But it’s worse when in voicing their angry opposition to organized religion, they begin sounding exactly like the religious zealots they claim to despise.

Still, it’s when they begin blaming all the evils of the world on religion that my own sense of reason and logic kick in. Inevitably, they bring up the Spanish Inquisition, as if the new year we just rang in was 1478. Ask them to make a slightly more contemporary case and they’ll bring up Nazi Germany with a “gotcha” gleam in their eye. While it’s true that Germany had been a traditionally Christian nation, Hitler was neither German nor Christian. He and his followers were pagans. They didn’t march and murder under the cross of Jesus Christ, but under the swastika of Adolph Hitler.

Whenever atheists blame religion for causing most of the world’s mass murders, they merely prove that they’re not only bigots, but ignoramuses. While nobody knows exactly how many millions of innocent people have been butchered in the past 90 years, we do know that the vast majority died at the hands of Stalin, Hitler, Mao and Pol Pot, atheists all.

The only exceptions to that rule, of course, are those who have been gassed, beheaded and blown up, by the Muslim faithful. And yet Islam, interestingly enough, is the one religion that doesn’t seem to enrage atheists! Could the reason possibly be that, for all their huffing and puffing about how awful all religions are, even the atheists understand that Jewish and Christian martyrs will die for their beliefs, whereas Islamics will kill you for theirs?

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W. Burt Prelutsky is an accomplished, well-rounded writer and author of "The Secret of Their Success: Interviews with Legends and Luminaries."
 
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Burt
Once again, great article.

"....I assume, that lurking inside every heterosexual man is an interior decorator screaming to get out and do something about those curtains. "

I think you have described a few of the regular TH trolls. Who, by the way should be around very shortly to spew the usual "Burt is a Jew, Michelle Malkin is anchor babe, Coulter...." anyway - you see where that is going.


As for the atheist, I guess their faith must be a lot greater than mine. If they can look around and tell me that everything they see around them has evolved from monkeys and a couple of asteroids banging into each other in space one day, then, yes, their faith is greater than mine.


Townhall nirvana!
Gays and atheists in one article!

What could possibly be better?

Soon there will be a cure.

Soon there will be a cure for homosexuality.

I don't know about atheists. Is there an ahteists gene?

The Last Sentence!
Burt, your last sentence is a masterpiece! I'm going to use that one.

When do you think Hollywood, aside from the makers of 24, will actually use Middle Eastern men as bad guys? I find it amazing that the Islamic radicals view Hollywood as one of the greatest sources of evil in the world, yet Hollywood sides with them. What am I missing?

AMEN!
and AMEN!

Great article as usual
The only thing incorrect in this piece is that Hitler's first name is spelled Adolf.

Everything else is spot-on, as we all have become accustomed to from Burt.

Great article Burt! But..
Your title could have very easily have been all encompassing had it read.. Gays Atheists and LIBERALS! Joined at the Lip!

Dishonest nonsense as usual

What planet is Prelutsky from? Whatever it is, the logic circuits in his brain are certainly "different".

Prelusky tries to smear gays by linking them to atheists and to smear atheists by linking them to gays. Typical guilt by association BS.

Then he claims that they are similar because their argumentation involves strawmen, which they proceed to rip apart. The only problem is that Prelutsky's entire argument is based on a strawman (the idea that gays and atheists use strawmen argument). Note that he provides NO EVIDENCE of gays or atheists using strawmen argments. Prelutsky's form of argumentation is often referred to as HYPOCRISY.

It;s also typical Townhall hatred. Sorry Prelutsky, but gays really are an oppressed minority, and you are one of the hateful, idiotic oppressors.

Groan
"rather have his cavity worked on by a dentist than by a proctologist".

Cut it out Burt or I shall be forced to tell you the one about the homosexual dentist. His patients were all liberals. They had finally found the Tooth Fairy.

(Moving along quickly)


Ha!
Hey Burt! It didn't take long for ole Dr Dougass to prove my point!

I have always hated the word "homophobe"
It's used as a sinister "shut up" mechanism. If you don't shut up after being labeled such, you're sucked into defending yourself against the moniker a la "when did you stop beating your wife?"

There are no athiests...
Everyone worships something. The one nice thing about this life in North America is that you get to choose what it is. Those are not entirely my words, but with all the aluminum being fed through the food and water system these days so that we'll forget why "global warming" is a hoax, like "global cooling" was 30 years ago, my memory isn't what is was - and given day to day life, that sort of makes sense, no?

dr douglas...
..needs to acquire a life somewhere. The one he has obviously does not fit him. Are there any more ready-to-wear dogma suits in the back?

Burt...
...if you do nothing else today,please address Dr Dougie.Can't wait!

Rudolf
I've seen you make that comment to one of Burt's columns before. Please, do answer your question, "Makes you wonder why?" I'm pretty sure that goes precisely to a point Burt made in this column. Thanks for proving his point.

Rudolf ...
...seems obsessed with heterosexuality.Makes you wonder what went on between him and his mother.

Just saying!!!

The Writer Stops By
Only because Nam 65-66 asked so nicely, I will address Dr. Douglas. Liberals always want to insist that guilt by association is something terrible concocted by Joe McCarthy. The truth, however, is that there is such a thing as guilt by association. Bracak Obama was guilty, at the very least, of displaying questionable judgment by his association with Bill Ayers, Tony Rezko, Father Pfleger and Jeremiah Wright. Mobsters are guilty through their association with the Mafia. The RICO Act calls it acting in concert. Felons on parole are not allowed to associate with other known criminals. So, climb down off your high horse and admit that you're just another disgruntled liberal ignoramus.
As for Rudolf: I also wrote for Jack Webb, with whom I often drank. But Rock Hudson and I only had a working relationship, I'm happy to say. As for why I pay a lot of attention to homosexuals, it's hard not to in the wake of Proposition 8...especially after they went after the wife of a friend of mine, doing everything in their power to close up her family restaurant because she had done the unthinkable. She had donated $100 to support the sensible idea that marriage be limited to two people of the opposite sex!

Sincerely, Burt Prelutsky

I love when the writer stops by
It's like finding another cookie in the bottom of a bag I thought was empty.

@ Silphium.
What is your point really? My question to Burt is no sillier than his opposition to same-sex marriage, is it?

Rudolf: My point, really
Burt: "The other lie that is parroted with some frequency is that those who don’t fully support the gay agenda are most likely latent homosexuals."
Rudolf: "Who knows what went on between him and Rock Hudson?"

Therefore, Rudolf, you proved Burt's point, which is my point. Is that point clear enough?

Oh, Burt Burt Burt......
It's too early for my sides to be hurting from laughing so hard! OWWWWIE...lol

GREAT piece...I think you hit the nail on the head as usual!

Keep them coming..

Ignore Dr Dipstick and Rudolf the red nosed fairy though... they're just trolls who like seeing their names up on the monitor to "feel" like they're getting "attention" they're missing.... idiots.

Rudolph's point...
...is right there under his hat.

Edna:"Rudolph the red nosed fairy".
I LOVE IT!

Teddy Hertzel...
...You're absolutely right! And have you noticed how big their noses are!And don't even get me started on how they make their matso's with the blood of Christian children!

Everyone's an athest to someone else
Christians, Muslims, Jews, Hindi, etc. are atheists each other's God(s). The connection between atheism and homosexuality is not a one-to-one relationship and it's profoundly simplistic to think so.

What I don't get is the seemingly tight relationship between liberalism and atheism. Not all liberals are atheists nor are all atheists liberal, but the common set does seem to be a relatively large.

Anyone know of a conservative, or more likely, libertarian atheist?

Rude-oaf
Why is Rude-oaf always "cruisin" TH? Me thinks its because he really digs heterosexuals and just hasen't come to grips with it yet.

Nam65-66
Just for you...(to the tune of rudolph the red nosed reindeer)

Rudolf the red nosed fairy
Had a very lonely life
When all the striaght guys saw him
they all would say "eeewww gross"
Then all the straight guys
started to laugh and call him names
Rudolf the red nosed fairy
sat down and had a good cry

Iran Found Cure For Homosexuality

Apparently Iran and Ahminajead have found some sort of cure for Homosexuality because they say that there are NO Homosexuals in Iran.

It's actually a spiritual connection.
" Could the reason possibly be that, for all their huffing and puffing about how awful all religions are, even the atheists understand that Jewish and Christian martyrs will die for their beliefs, whereas Islamics will kill you for theirs? "

Well, not exactly. I guess on a humanistic level there's some truth to that but the real point they have in common is a visceral fear and loathing of the Holy One of Israel. In that they are united with the rest of their Liberal coterie.

Check it out. (John 3:17-21)






Dr Douglas et al

Dr Douglas is most ignorant!

Dr Douglas always argues from his point of ignorance.

The argument from ignorance, also known as argumentum ad ignorantiam ("appeal to ignorance" or argument by lack of imagination, is a logical fallacy in which it is claimed that a premise is true only because it has not been proven false or is only false because it has not been proven true.

Don't ask, don't tell
is about to be scrapped in favor of a new, more inclusive military. Aren't we the sensitive ones? We're going to take the finest fighting force in History and turn it into a social experiment.

There have always been homos in the military, I suppose. Many of our medics in Viet Nam were fags and having had them attend to my wounds and malaria, I found them to be gentle, caring souls, BUT they didn't try to mix in with the warriors, because they are not genetically inclined for battle. Soldiers will not meekly submit to sharing a foxhole or shower with one who is checking out their "equipment" or looking to cop a feel of their behinds.

Queers have a tendency to put their sexual perversions in everyone else's face, which normal people find offensive. They're only thoughts and conversation is of their last "date" or dreaming about their next one.

All I ask is that they do like the rest of us and keep their sex life to themselves, yet they insist in shoving it down our throats.

Notice I don't use "gay," which used to be a perfectly good and serviceable word. now slimed by a small group of sickos.

Likewise,...........
"Notice I don't use "gay," which used to be a perfectly good and serviceable word. now slimed by a small group of sickos."

I haven't used the word "fabulous" since I was in college supporting myself working in the hotel and restaurant industry, almost thirty years ago. It immediately screams "LGBT/gay" to me when someone overuses it, male or female.

Liberal Atheists

Liberal Atheists say that religious people are ignorant and uninformed - so they voted for Barack Obama who states he is a very 'religious person'.

Look at Barack Obama's logic.

Obama want us to buy American made cars to save the Autoworkers Union.

Obama doesn't want us to drive those cars so the planet can be saved.

Obama wants to spend money on bridges and highways that he doesn't want us to drive those cars on.

Just like Barack Obama is NOT a real black man but only 1/2 a black man, Liberal Atheists are 1/2 right - Barack Obama is dumb and not informed but it isn't because of religion it is because he is Marxist.

Karl Marx said he had two goals in life to "Destroy God and Capitalism".

Hitler was a devout Darwinist

Hitler was a devout Darwinist who thought he could make a 'Super Human Race' by killing off all specimens of humanity who were NOT perfect and then breeding those perfect specimens.

Darwinism and Atheism are 'Joined at the Lip' as Burt has aptly titled his article.


OBAMA'S PRIORITIES
While we spend millions on Obama's inauguration, his first act appears to be to give the homosexuals a prize in mandating the end of Don't Ask/Don't Tell. His first act should be to develop Alaska's oil reserves!

http://www.gov.state.ak.us/news.php?id=1603

Saying Sexual Perversion has rights

Saying Sexual Perversion has rights is correct in that two consenting adults can have perverted sexual acts in private.

Sexual Perversion is a behavior and is a 'free will' choice and is NOT genetic.

Homosexuals already have EXACTLY the same rights that every other American Citizen has.

Humans have Rights and Protections not sexual perversion behavioral acts like Homosexuality.

Homosexuals do NOT need any more rights than others - they have the same rights as everyone else does now.

Burt, you woke up my old man...
...because of my laughter, that began when I read your line about window curtains, & continued throughout reading your column.

Thanks also for your comments for Dr. Douglas, spot-on they were. I can add nothing to the yea-sayers, can only shake my head at the nay-sayers.

Burt, we luvya, welcome you to the Family Circle.

Religion of Atheism

Atheists are Humanists whether they realize it or not.

I was raised in a family of Humanists/Atheists that went back several generations.

My family and I were tolerant of Religious people, because we believed that as a human one was free to live the life that belonged to a human, should be free to live it any way they wished.

Atheists that are against religion are very religious in their pursuits.

Religion is nothing more than humans trying to define their God and then please that God with a set of rules, that they have deduced would please their God.

Jesus Christ is God's way to man - God showed Himself through Jesus, to prove to humans that, man's way to God was false.

At age 32, I had spent my scientific life trying to find the ORIGIN of energy, space, motion and time, not to mention the origin of materials necessary for the singularity of the 'Big Bang'.

I then turned from the 'Religion of Atheism' and become a believer in God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit - the origin of all that exists.

RE: Dr Druhl; There are No Atheists
Actually, I would say the opposite...everyone's an atheist(e.g. You presumably don't worship Zeus, Minerva, Ra or any of the other ancient Greek, Roman or Egyptian gods and goddesses). Atheists today just go one step further and don't believe in the monotheistic god or the Abrahamic god, if you will, that is common to Judaism, Christianity and Islam.

Dr. Douglas, Oppressed Minority?
Dr. Douglas, if my gay uncle were alive today, I believe he would back hand you across the face for even once referring to him as an oppressed minority. Tell that to the man who could speak seven languages, traveled around the world, was a celebrity, wealthy, with multitudes of friends from all different walks of life.

Oppressed? Why? Because they can't marry their partners in certain states? Sorry, but if you want to talk about oppression and losing one's rights, look at the smokers in this country who inch by inch have lost their rights and are treated as vile second class citizens.

Last time I checked, and this has been going on for years, gays have been owning property, have been moguls in the business world, live together in harmony, go to school, visit their partners in the hospital, get willed estates for the death of their partner, free to roam about the country and the world, and even during the debauchery of the Gay Pride Parade, no one has set the firehose on them. They have hundreds of laws to protect them as well.

As a hetero female, I have the same rights as them, yet being a smoker, I feel mighty oppressed having my one vice be villianized as I stand outside a building in 16 below degree weather having a smoke, knowing that the goverment once again is targeting folks like me with higher sales taxes soon to come.

Do I whine? Do I attack non smokers? Do I infiltrate non smoking facilities and accost people there by blowing smoke in their face, burning them with my butts, and screaming how I intend to kill them with my second hand smoke?

Nope. I deal with it.

Just like gays need to deal with that certain states will not let them get married.

Oppressed? Please...

Burt Great Article - Kudos

Under Islam ALL are required to participate or they are to be killed. Under Islam one is NOT considered a 'Human Being' unless one converts to Islam.

Under Communism ALL are required to 'Belong to the State' and any who does NOT agree are to be killed. Under Communism one is NOT considered a 'Human Being' unless so declared by the State.

Islam and Communism both agree that they are NOT killing humans because they have NOT accepted the 'Truth' of the prescribed ideology.

Homosexuals are similar in their thinking that one is a NOT NORMAL HUMAN unless they believe that their perversion is normal.

Extreme 'Coercion' (death or convert) is the goal of all three.

And Dr. Doug
If you wish to retort, that's fine, however, I am unable to respond back. I must now go to work to be patriotic by having my paycheck shaved down to the nub in taxes, so that I may share the wealth and have others "keep up", like Fannie, Freddie, the UAW and Larry Flint. Apparently, they all need my help...

I thought he was supposed to be funny
Are the people who brought us the war on christmas really complaining about groups creating straw men and imagining persecution? That is pretty funny.

What Hugh Hefner needs to marry his bevy of girlfriends is not the acceptance of gay marraige. It is a return to biblical marriage. How is it that opponents of gay marriage seem to think that polygamy is some newfangled thing rather than the standard marraige among the patriarchs?

But Prelutsky is certainly creating another straw man in thinking that the charge of homophobia is meant to slur all heterosexuals. After all not all heterosexuals favor discrimination against homosexuals.

The only heterosexuals I suspect of being latent homosexuals are the ones who think homosexuality is a choice. It is hard to imagine actual heterosexuals thinking they chose to be heterosexual. I certainly didn't, I was just born this way. If you think homosexuality is something you could choose, then something else is going on with your sexuality than with mine.

Do homosexuals...
...have any legitimate grips? Do atheists?

Retired Geek - atheist religion
I've heard stories like your before. I've even run into a few former atheists and they have all been very devout Christians. I guess it's because they have been on the outside looking in so they appreciate it more when they do come to believe.

Burt,

Masterful as usual. The trolls are on the march, you must have done something to upset them. But then, like atheists, trolls in general live to find offense.

I dont have the faith to be an atheist!
Atheist say we are a product of evolution, which is a product of nature, and so there is no God. Atheist and agnosticism also believe in the Big Bang. Before the B.B. there was nothing, no time, no natural forces, no nature. So nature was "created" at the time of the B.B.by a "SUPERNATURAL" power. The rest of the story is pretty easy to understand. If there is a creation there is a creator! Its also easy for anyone engaged in a sinful lifestyle to justify that lifestyle by saying there is not a God. No God no accountablity, no judgement, no better way to live. In a nation that still has a little hint of moral stability, it's hard to understand how so few wrong headed people can demand so much attention. Now with openly gays in the military, political push for sinful same sex marriage, abortion on demand, our country travels futher down the road to a moral and spiritual sewer.

Right on, Mr. Prelutsky!
Thanks for explaining the link in such a straitforward and humorous manner.

The clear relationship in the ranks of homo and atheist zealots is caused by the underlying spiritual component. The rancorous behavior of these people is not a natural phenomenon...

Of course they don't attack Muslims the way they attack non - Muslims... They don't want to be attacked by something nearly as hideous as themselves.

Daily Steve et al

I had NO religious indoctrination to overcome.

I was looking for truth, as any scientist should do, instead of looking for evidence to support my bias.

Evolutionists look for evidence to support their beliefs, intelligent design advocates look for evidence to support their beliefs.

I was looking for one thing - what, who, when, where on the origin of energy.

I deduced for possible answers.
===============================
1) energy is eternal without beginning or end.
2) energy did NOT exist.
3) energy spontaneously appeared from nothing by accident, without cause.
4) energy was designed and created by intelligence.

I found all of these answers unprovable and philosophic by definition.

I deduced that NONE of these answers were scientific, so I chose the most sensible.


I do have an issue with this article.
There are many cultures who have recognized gay relationships as legal marriages. It was mainly through the advent of monotheistic religions - Judaism, Christianity and Islam - that homosexuality became so taboo. Further, homosexuality is rampant in the animal kingdom and is not "unnatural" at all.

As for athiests, I don't agree with anyone who wants to push their beliefs or non beliefs down anyone else's throat. We are free to worship as we choose or not worship at all. However, I do not want my religion or anyone else's in my government. We were not founded as a Theocracy and we have grown too large and too mixed for our government to place one religion above all others. Of course, on the flip side, I guess one could say that since the National Cathedral is Episcopalian, (of which I am one), then the National Church is the Episcopal Church and therefore, all Americans must believe as the ECA teaches - which is that we are all created equal and we all are entitled to equal protection under the law and that would include the right to be protected as a couple in a legally recognized relationship regardless of the gender(s) of the couple.

Imithohtar
"Anyone know of a conservative, or more likely, libertarian atheist?"

I am a libertarian atheist.

Retired Geek
I deduced for possible answers.
===============================
1) energy is eternal without beginning or end.
2) energy did NOT exist.
3) energy spontaneously appeared from nothing by accident, without cause.
4) energy was designed and created by intelligence.

I found all of these answers unprovable and philosophic by definition.

I deduced that NONE of these answers were scientific, so I chose the most sensible.

I assume that would be #1, since it is the simplest, involves no self-contradiction, and doesn't unnecessarily multiply entities.

Dear Mr.Prelutsky
Paul in The Letter to the Romans Chapter 1 verses 18-32 brings the atheist and the homosexual together. Which came first the chicken or the egg. Does the homosexual hate God for establishing statutes and order or does he become a homosexual because he hates God and chooses to believe in himself.

Kaci compares Homosexuals to Animals

Great comparison - what else can be said!

And once again the trolls..........
are here to extol the virtues of sadomasochistic behavior within a loving relationship.......ROFLMAO. Same sex marriages beget neurotic children. Bisexuals marrying (loosely referred to as heterosexual marriages by the LGBT community) beget neurotic children. The goal of the liberal bodies of the APA(s) and the ABA is the normalization of neurotic behavior and its associated paraphilias to children and to the uneducated masses. Knowingly promoting "borderline" caretaker environments for children, regardless of the gender or socioeconomic status of the caretaker environment, is no less than unethical if not antisocial behavior by neurotic legal and medical professionals.

Dr Douglas says:
Prelusky tries to smear gays by linking them to atheists and to smear atheists by linking them to gays. Typical guilt by association BS.
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More like circular thinking, which theists are experts at. After all, the Bible is true because it is the word of God, and they know that because it says so.

I know several atheist...
...some are politically liberal. Most are libertarian, or libertarian leaning conservatives. To a person they are moral, and tend to focus their lives around ethical personal, and business practices.

Homophobia?
There is another reason why the word "homophobia" is non-sensical. The root word "homo" does not refer to gays or to homosexuality but the the genus "Homo sapiens", or "man". So, the word that the gays like to throw around to try to intimidate everyone really means "an abnormal fear of man".

David, you prove his point.
You are getting very angry, setting up straw men, and attacking Jews. (Yes, it is supposedly humor, but it's stereotypical humor.)

Note that back in Genesis, the design was for one man and one woman. God did not forbid polygamy, just as he did not forbid divorce. But neither was his original design, and both were forbidden in the New Testament.

Most men are not homosexuals. Homosexuals have exactly the same rights as everyone else.

Facts.

And what's so wrong with arranged marriages? It's part of the culture. You aren't used to it, but that does not make it wrong. (I thought atheists didn't believe in right or wrong in the first place?)

Burt's point about atheism being mostly anti-christian is easily demonstrated. Richard Dawkins has attacked the God of the Bible more than any other.

I ask you for statistics. How many criticisms of God from atheists attack the Judeo-Christian God, and how many attack the Muslim deity? I am willing to bet right here and now that the former is more attacked.

Hitler wanted to kill blacks and Jews because he believed them to be inferior. An evolutionary idea, which came from denying God. Atheism was the basis. More deaths have come about because of atheism than because of theism. More deaths have been perpetrated by Muslims than by any other sect of theism.

Finally, gays and atheists seem to be angry all the time over something or other. So do Muslims, for that matter. And it just so happens that most gays and atheists specifically hate Christians, and most gays are atheists. Coincidence? I think not.

Our Forbidden God, Creator of all.
Our children daily have the atheist world-view shoved down their throats.
They are meaningless.
They have no intrinsic value.
There lives have no purpose.
Love does not exist. You were not made in the image of God whom loves you dearly. There are no rules as long as no one gets hurt.
Have sex whenever and with whomever but use a condom.

How is this not establishing atheistic thought as our country's religion.

Now they want homos to take part in marriage and teach our children that homosexual sin is normal and must be accepted and respected or else.

How is this not establishing the atheist religion as our country's religion.

Like it or not everyone has a world-view. That means view-of-the-world. We must live as a people according to a world view. If God is forbidden in schools then we are being forced to live according to the atheist's view of the world.

We have been allowing, these Secular Humanist radicals destroy our children, our families, our institutions of higher learning, our elementary schools and high schools and our culture, they bold face lie to us in our media, they have corrupted our government and judges ignore our Constitution. This all began before the World Wars and has worsened until now where I don't believe we are far from chaos and then total tyranny.
Thank you atheists for destroying all that was good.
And thank you Christians for being nice about it.

Burt, you wrote a good column.
The liberal trolls on these boards are coming out in full force to denounce you and hate you. You must have hit a really sore spot. In my experience, the only way to get this sort of angry reaction is by hitting the nail on the head or being completely insane. I know you're not insane, and thus you must have hit the nail on the head with this one.

Publius is right. The correct term

should be sodomitephobia.

Homos & Atheists
There are many reasons for conservatives to be suspicious of the above mentioned assumed 'fight for justice'.

Homosexuals want to be accepted by all as the 'norm'. They are not. They are a protected group. The left have adopted them.

When the HIV reared it's ugly head years ago,most of society wanted to try to curb it's spread by having homosexuals change their lifestyle. The left had a cow.

Hundreds of deaths of guilty and not guilty have died from that mistake. Millions of dollars have been spent for medical treatment of AIDS. Much of it by the same people who warned of the epidemic many years ago.

Atheism is the new 'religion'. They have a free will to believe or not. God will deal with them. Burt's joining the two is because they both are militants when they try to stifle the 'right' to acheive their goals.

There is one reason the 'right' is called 'right'. It is because we are.

Can anyone think of a benefit same-sex

couples would provide to society or the government?

camanintx et al

"Richard Weikart, author of From Darwin to Hitler, outlines in simplified fashion the route from Darwin to Hitler: First, Darwinism undermined traditional morality and the value of human life.

Then, evolutionary progress became the new moral imperative. This aided the advance of eugenics, which was overtly founded on Darwinian principles.

Some eugenicists began advocating euthanasia and infanticide for the disabled.

On a parallel track, some prominent Darwinists argued that human racial competition and war are part of the Darwinian struggle for existence.

Hitler imbibed these social Darwinist ideas, blended in virulent anti-Semitism, and-there you have it: Holocaust."

Atheists are quite funny.


They believe the order in the universe, the sacrificial love between human beings, the idea of perfection and degrees of imperfection, the concept of infinity and eternity, and the Resurrection of Jesus Christ are all proofs that God does not exist.

You may laugh freely and without guilt at the intellects of the atheists. There inability to use elementary reason is a pre-requisite for their existence.

RGeek-Shells-Goshawk-Others
Burt mentions Atheists doing a lot of huffing and puffing. I’ll bet Atheists can’t hold a candle to Gays when it comes to Puffing ;)!

Burt says Gays and Atheists are joined at the lip. I would’ve guessed they where joined at The Pelvic Girdle and The Gluteus Maximus ;).

If being Gay IS NOT a choice, HOW is it passed forward since Gay Relationships DO NOT reproduce?

Definition of disinterested
We are all abunniest, where abunniest is defined to mean the set of people who do not believe in the Easter Bunny?

Can there be any rational claim of generality and commonality about the abunniests of the worl, based on this disbelief?

Nope. I guarantee you that you have no human nature qualities attributable due to a lack of belief in Odin, Zues, Isis, etc. As the bumper sticker says, an atheist is just a person who disbelieves in one more God than you do. There has never been any evidence to show disbelief in something impacts human nature. And there has never been anyone stupid enough to commission such a study. But, time-and-time again columnists on this site generalize about people who do not believe.


Therefore, anyone who stereotypes atheists, or any group of people, based on some lack of belief is demonstrating a complete lack of intellectual rigor, or respect for reason.

No atheist speaks for another and there is not one tenet, not evolution, not anti-religious fervor, required for someone to be "an atheist." Just disbelief in God. How and why is immaterial.

The fact that every day for the last week there has been some atheist bashing article on this site is indicative of the conservative mind.

That is to say, the conservative mind is disengaged, disinterested and uncurious.

Conservatives have somehow allowed themselves to be lead around by people who cannot reason.

Thus these constant stream of articles generalizing about abunniests.

The right wing will continue its rapid decline into the trash bin of history until the day it becomes intellectually curious and rigorous.


camanintx - shows ignorance

When Hitler came to power in 1933, he installed a dictatorship with one agenda: enactment of his radical Nazi racial philosophy built on Darwinian evolution.

He sought, in Darwin's terms, to preserve the "favored" race in the struggle for survival. Brute strength and intelligence would be the driving force of the Nazi plan.

Instead of letting chance factors dominate reproduction decisions, Hitler proposed that the scientists use the power of the state to influence these decisions so that the gene pool would shift to what “informed conclusions” concluded was the desired direction.

Consequently, Hitler encouraged those individuals that he perceived as having Aryan traits to mate, and discouraged “interbreeding,” supposing that this policy would gradually cause the Aryan race to evolve “upward”.

He believed that the Nazi race programs would further evolution by intelligently deciding which traits were not beneficial, and preventing those with them from reproducing.

Argument enders.....
..., as perceived by the left and other maladapted people, are words such as "homophobe" and "racist". It works for them because so many logical and honest people retreat when labeled such.

When these tags are used effectively, tax money pours into the coffers of the perpetually aggrieved, government entitlements are handed out like candy, incompetents get promoted on the job, Al Sharpton, et.al. get some great camera time, criminal court cases are won by defense attorneys, and the opposition gets their reps ruined. This Machiavellian tactic has worked for despots throughout history, and the results have been catastrophic for mankind, but oh, the wonderful paydays!

Then there are those of us who don't give a flyin' rat's rear-end, and when necessary and accurate, we call a spade a spade. When the corrupt lable-throwers learn this about a person, they eventually don't bother trying to tag you.



Good idea!
Since the objections to homosexuals ultimately comes from the Bible, an alliance between gays and atheists would seem to make good sense.

roadmaster: You claim that gay medics helped you when you were in trouble. If one of them asked to share your foxhole, would you have turned him away with a string of insults. You don't show much gratitude. Also there have been lots of gay warriors, Alexander the Great, Trajan, and Richard the Lionhearted, among others.

Georgetwin et al

Good morning!

Of course Homosexual acts are behavioral choices and NOT genetic.

Any sex act is a choice by an individual or individuals.

Bestiality is NOT a choice of the animal.