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Friday, February 01, 2008
Burt Prelutsky :: Townhall.com Columnist
The World's Second-Oldest Profession
by Burt Prelutsky
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I have a confession to make. On many occasions, I have been one of those people who have ridiculed people for no other reason than that they’ve been lawyers. I have generalized about them as if they were all a pack of ambulance chasers or, worse yet, politicians -- or, worst of all, ambulance-chasing politicians such as John Edwards.

But, it’s just not fair and I apologize. After all, many lawyers serve a useful function as they go about drawing up contracts and wills. However, that being said, I wouldn’t want any of you to assume that this is to be taken as my mea culpa to the entire legal profession. There are still any number of law school grads who could teach snakes how to crawl. There are still criminal defense attorneys who, while paying lip service to the notion that everyone deserves the best defense money can buy, will devote their lives to bamboozling juries into letting rapists, pedophiles and serial killers, go free.

To make matters worse, you will rarely if ever hear one member of the American Bar Association utter a single discouraging word about one of his disreputable colleagues unless they’re facing off in an election.

Recently, I read about two lawsuits that were so infuriating that I found myself harboring second thoughts about going ahead with this apology. In the first case, the attorney’s name is Daniel Becnel, Jr. I’m just glad that my name isn’t Daniel Becnel, Sr.

It seems that of the 489,000 claims that have been filed in the wake of Hurricane Katrina, he is responsible for 60,000 of them! Asked about measuring Katrina’s devastation in terms of dollars and cents, Mr. Becnel replied, “There’s no way on earth you can figure it out. The trauma these people have undergone is unlike anything that has occurred in the history of our country.”

Even allowing for a certain amount of legalistic hyperbole, that is one of the stupidest things I’ve heard in quite a while. I suppose in the heat of the moment, and perhaps distracted by the amount of loot he’s likely to see when those 60,000 cases are settled, he must have forgotten the Civil War, Pearl Harbor and 9/11, just to mention a few of the more notable traumas that spring to mind.

Of the 489,000 claims, 247 are for at least a billion dollars. But that’s nothing. One of them is for $3,014,170,389,176,410. Having been to New Orleans on a couple of occasions, I can only assume that the actual value of the dwelling was $410, and that the remaining $3,014,170,389,176 is just for the heck of it.

Speaking of John Edwards, I bet when he saw those kinds of numbers being bandied about, he regretted wasting his time running for president.

The part that annoys me the most about these lawsuits is that they’ve been filed against the federal government in spite of the fact that during LBJ’s administration the Army Corps of Engineers was ready and eager to repair New Orleans levees until a bunch of tree-hugging busybodies got an injunction to prevent the work being done. As usual, their only concern was that it might have disrupted the plant or animal life in the immediate vicinity. It seems to me they’re the folks who should be sued.

The other case involves a guy in Colorado named Scott A. Gomez. I haven’t been able to track down the name of the lawyer who’s handling his case, but Mr. Gomez, who was incarcerated in Pueblo County Jail on a weapons-related charge, had already broken out once before. Quickly recaptured, he decided to try again in January, 2007. He and a fellow inmate broke through a tile ceiling in the shower, climbed through the opening and made their way through a shaft to the roof. So far, the plan worked like a charm. But when Gomez tried to descend 85 feet to the ground using a makeshift ladder of bed sheets and mattress covers, he fell the final 40 feet, as Wile E. Coyote could have predicted.

His lawsuit, which seeks an unspecified amount of money, contends that the authorities are responsible for his hurting himself because they made it too doggone easy to escape.

The fact of the matter, at least in this court’s opinion, is that they only made the first part easy. Clearly, they made the last 40 feet very hard indeed.

Case dismissed!

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W. Burt Prelutsky is an accomplished, well-rounded writer and author of "The Secret of Their Success: Interviews with Legends and Luminaries."
 
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Who is the clown who put 4 stars on this
?

Probably a lawyer. :D

five always, aDNA

Can anyone tell me...
What is the justification for anyone in NOLA suing the federal government? That would be a horrid precedent if anyone collects a cent. I think enough of our tax dollars have gone to LA over the years, and this just sounds like a bunch of people playing litigation lottery.

Kudos
Dear Professor: We were obviously composing at the same time. Good to know that in the ancient and noble profession of engineering, such attitudes apply! Patent law, such as your son aspires to, holds a real and vital place in a technological civilization. Property rights, in effect. In any free society, at whatever level, those rights are priceless. I hope your son carries over into his profession the values you have held in your's. God bless.

The Legal Racket
To expand on the previous poster's quote- Sweet Will had it right! Even in Elizabethan England, attorneys were already, at best, a necessary evil. Now they control the entire process. In the private and public domains- in business, politics, jurisprudence; everywhere you look, hordes of human parasites predominate on a social landscape that they themselves have molded in their likeness... and for their own benefit.

Are there good lawyers?... ones to whom the old virtues of public service, personal integrity and officers-of-the-court still mean something? Yes, there are. Perhaps there are more of them out there than we may think. I've met a few that I'm proud to be associated with. But they are isolated nuggets of gold in a hillside of placer mud.

That any exist at all is a wonder, when you stop to think about it. As in politics, education, entertainment and the media, institutionalized mediocrity, personal avarice and political correctness have become the rule. Their professional structures do not reward ethical behavior. The institutions that train their minions pay lip service, at best, to the traditional values of their professions. Therefore, those who choose to follow in an upstanding spirit are at an automatic disadvantage. That they do so tends to make them outstanding people indeed. But so few...

Until we change these corrupted institutions- ones so vital and influential to our society overall- their corruption will continue to taint our daily lives... and threaten, in the long run, our viability as a nation.

Professions
My son is now in law school, interested in Patent Law. After this disclosure, let me state very openly and vigorously: I am an Engineer and I don't need some damn state board (why wouldn't these wannabes hold a real job?) to tell me any different. My customers are the only appropriate judges of my skill.

Clearly, there is a dangerous self-referential nature to Politics - Jurisprudence. But I believe Mr. Lincoln was a country lawyer who often disputed property lines.

From personal experience, it is far more common that an innocent party is convinced to "plead down" by a lazy Public Defender (sic!) than a felon is released "on a technicality" by a slick attorney.

The comments to Mr. Prelutsky's essay are very interesting and instructive. My Thank You! to the TH community.

The First Thing We Do
is kill all the lawyers.
William S.

Jim
If your still around, please tell lolo my pops is doing ok and that I am thinking of her. Tell her to get well and get back soon!

http://www.immigrationshumancost.org/text/crimevictims.htm l
Free Ramos and Compean
If we can not have HOME SECURITY first, the rest just won’t matter!
YES I am still writing Fred’s name in the box!
NO MORE HOLDING OUR NOSE AND PULLING THAT LEVER!!
VOTE FOR A REAL REPUBLICAN!! NO MORE RINO’s!!!


inthemajority writes:
Doc, feel free to comment on this after you are held hostage and tortured

LOL I see this same stupid crap all the time from your kind. You should be happy we have Gitmo and are getting answers (a few good men keeping you safe) I hope your talking about waterboarding, because I do not believe they are doing much more than that.
You really do know that they are not dunking their head 3x and bringing it up 2x right? In fact, water does not even make it us your nose. You got your answer, now run back to kos before they miss you. How did you pick the name "inthemajority"? Not so much.....

http://www.immigrationshumancost.org/text/crimevictims.htm l
Free Ramos and Compean
If we can not have HOME SECURITY first, the rest just won’t matter!
YES I am still writing Fred’s name in the box!
NO MORE HOLDING OUR NOSE AND PULLING THAT LEVER!!
VOTE FOR A REAL REPUBLICAN!! NO MORE RINO’s!!!

Throw the (criminal) lawyer in jail


This old idea of “innocent until proved guilty” just doesn’t work that way. The only way a person will be prosecuted, is if the Government thinks he is guilty. If the prosecutor thinks the person is innocent, there is no trial. If he is found innocent because of some action of the criminal lawyer, I mean the defense attorney, then throw the attorney, who is a criminal, in jail.

If you want to know why people won’t go to the aid of someone in distress, if you want to know why needles are put in soft-drink cans, if you wonder why it is worth your effort to spill hot coffee, if you want to know why you should stand on the top step of a stepladder, just look in the yellow pages under Attorneys.

After an airplane crash, a lawyer said, “We will just sue everyone, someone must be responsible.” Cigarettes have been called “coffin nails” for a 100 years, there’s a warning printed on each pack, but that doesn’t mean a person is responsible for smoking.

Just call a lawyer, perhaps you will get the lawyer who sued for someone who stood on the very top of a step ladder, spilled hot coffee, or ate too much.

Years ago when your Grandparents sold a house they signed a one page document. Now the legal cabal has determined that each house seller may be a crook.

Today, those dozens of pages of documents contain a potential legal payday in each and every paragraph.


D'oh Doc
If Doc were flown out of this country and tortured because someone said he was funneling money to Al Quada (I know, that was some other Republican, not Doc) then I would want Doc to have representation and be able to sue.

It is a travesty that chest-thumping "You're a Great American too Sean, old lad" people don't care about others, just themselves. If you happen to be of another religion then it is OK to torture someone?

Doc, feel free to comment on this after you are held hostage and tortured because you were SUSPECTED of being a terrorist. It is up to our functionally illiterate president to determine if you need to be extradited, so who's next?

Call Limpbaugh
Mr. Right: in defense of lawyers
I happen to know a few good lawyers. And like AudiR10, if you all despise lawyers so much call a Hippie next time you get in trouble.
---------------------------
Better yet, call a drug addict like Limpbaugh.

Grew up in a family of lawyers -- where do you think he learned to lie?

Unca Alby
You beat me to it. I was thinking the same thing while reading these posts. Prosecutorial misconduct is a serious problem. We also cannot blame all bad trial outcomes on the lawyers. Juries are involved also. Those people have biases. Some people might vote to acquit simply because they like the defense attorney better or vice versa. Don't think so? How many millions supported John Edwards for Pres.

Prosecutors have a strong incentive to convict the innocent. They all want to run for a higher political office. That is the entry level job for most politicians and where they learn the tricks of the trade, namely, that guilt or innocence is irrelevant, what matters is what you can prove or worse, what you can convince the jury to do.

in defense of lawyers
I happen to know a few good lawyers. And like AudiR10, if you all despise lawyers so much call a Hippie next time you get in trouble.

My lawyer switched from criminal to family law and estate planning (small, one-woman firm) when her criminal business dried up. Seems folks would come to her with a drunk driving rap, for example, and she'd offer to help them plead guilty (if they were actually drunk) and make sure they were treated fairly and represented well but she would not try any legal maneuvering to get them off. The fact that she had no criminal business, in spite of getting innocent folks found innocent on a remarkably regular basis, kind of put in perspective the kind of work attorneys who get the guilty off are doing.

There has been talk of suing judges and parole boards who release dangerous criminals who subsequently commit more crimes. Shouldn't we also charge lawyers who get the guilty off only to have their clients commit further crimes as accomplices?

Uncle Alby
I agree mostly with what you say, but the fact that the criminal law system has become just a way to keep score and advance politically is another big strike against the system. I would surmise that there are a few more Nifongs out there and I would also surmise that there are a lot of lawyers and judges that are covering for them.

As to the "innocents" in prison, of course they are ALL innocent. Didn't you know that. That is standard jail house knowledge. Given the numbers that have been arrested, I would say that the number who have been shown to be innocent AFTER conviction for serious crimes like murder is VERY VERY low and the numbers of executed who were innocent are even lower still.

So far 99% of the public's vitriol has been directed at tort/trial lawyers. It would not take too many more Nifongs out there for the public to start on them too. When the average citizen loses confidence in the legal system the politicians had best look out.

After all, once aggravated enough, the citizens could be persuaded to giver Silky Pony a real haircut, trimmed up just below the chin, just like Marie Antoinette.

A better finish - - -
All I can say is this -- stay OUT of the legal system, if you can! The place is FULL of lawyers!

regarding Defense Attorneys
A lot of people have opined that criminal defense lawyers just want to get their clients off, even when they know they're guilty.

Well, let me put up a different context.

State prosecutors (also lawyers) just want to get the defendants imprisoned, even when they know they're innocent.

Remember Nifong? I hope you don't think he's an isolated case. C'mon, he's a *lawyer* for chri'sakes!

The courtroom has devolved into a gladiator tournament. It's the Battle of the Lawyers. Guilt or innocence is only a side issue to who has the better lawyer. Pity the poor schmuck who can't afford his own defense attorney and has to use the under-paid, under-resourced state-provided one. (Under-resourced, in that they are often not given funds for independent forensics analysis.)

I find it amazing how an independent organization can use new technology like DNA and discover SO MANY people on death row who should NOT be there. I know none of us are perfect, and I certainly expect the occasional mistake -- but it seems to me like there have been a LOT of "mistakes."

How many of these are simply the result of prosecutors making up their minds and cherry-picking evidence to "prove" it, rather than following the evidence wherever it leads? How many of these are the result of other "Nifong"s trying to score political points at the defendants' expense?

All I can say is this -- stay OUT of the legal system, if you can!

So
I say we start with the ACLU!

http://www.immigrationshumancost.org/text/crimevictims.htm l
Free Ramos and Compean
If we can not have HOME SECURITY first, the rest just won’t matter!
YES I am still writing Fred’s name in the box!
NO MORE HOLDING OUR NOSE AND PULLING THAT LEVER!!
VOTE FOR A REAL REPUBLICAN!! NO MORE RINO’s!!!

Hey Burt!!
Hey you want to see a really STUPID lawsuit? Look here!
http://thecitytroll.blogspot.com/2007/06/ole-willie-was-ri ght-lets-kill-all.html

http://www.immigrationshumancost.org/text/crimevictims.htm l
Free Ramos and Compean
If we can not have HOME SECURITY first, the rest just won’t matter!
YES I am still writing Fred’s name in the box!
NO MORE HOLDING OUR NOSE AND PULLING THAT LEVER!!
VOTE FOR A REAL REPUBLICAN!! NO MORE RINO’s!!!

The next time you are in trouble
call a Hippie.

Remember that bumper sticker from the days when the Hippies were not lawyers, but were instead punk kids who referred to the police as Pigs?

Well, y'all, next time you are picked up for any kind of crime, real or imagined, including your ex-wife, I would suggest you call, like, a Hippie, maaaaan, and not bother the lawyers who are busy helping people who DON'T know it all.

emjayne writes:
Thompson fans, great as the original promise was , it's OVER!

Do not believe it for one second, a vote for Fred is a vote against McQuack, or any other lib, and I am voting for Fred!!!
As I started to post before I saw the Fred statement Burt, Thanks for a bit of relief from the hectic political heyday going on around here. (See Hawkins junk on McQuack today) As I have had to deal with lawyers on many occasions, I think they should not be able to run for office.
I will however disagree that 500 would be a good start (who ever made that joke) how about 100K?

http://www.immigrationshumancost.org/text/crimevictims.htm l
Free Ramos and Compean
If we can not have HOME SECURITY first, the rest just won’t matter!
YES I am still writing Fred’s name in the box!
NO MORE HOLDING OUR NOSE AND PULLING THAT LEVER!!
VOTE FOR A REAL REPUBLICAN!! NO MORE RINO’s!!!

Cyclist
In answer to your question about the number of people on Capitol Hill with Law degrees, I don't have an exact figure, but it is well in excess of 90%, of that I am nearly certain. (And that number hasn't changed much in 200 years).

Lawsuits
$3,014,170,389,176,410??????

$3,014,170,389,176,410!!!!!!?????

Three QUADRILLION dollars????

Is that serious? Or is this another example of the satire that pops up on this site frequently?

Quadrillion?

Any entity who sues any other entity for any number that contains the word "quadrillion" in any currency (including 2000 Turkish Lira at over 1,000,000 to the dollar), anywhere, ever should be imprisoned for not less than 12 months for contempt of court and the lawyer should be disbarred before serving the same sentence.

Shakespeare was right.

The STATE has the burden
First—I’m not a lawyer. I don’t like them much and I don’t want to need one.

However, if a slimy, yet talented, defense attorney gets his/her “guilty” client off on ANY charge, then the prosecution is at fault. I think we should be grateful we have a justice system that puts burden for proof on the state. If the state doesn’t prove its case to a jury, the defendant should be set free.

The Constitution is right, and we are better for it. If a few scumbags get off, then shame on us for not expecting more from our prosecutors. Don’t blame the guy that did his job—blame the guy that didn’t.

defense lawyer does not want Justice


As you hear on a so-called conservative’s radio program, “Friends don’t let friends plead guilty,” of DUI. That is terrible, how can a conservative say such a thing. If you are guilty, you must be convicted, who ever you are, and whatever traitor you hired as your lawyer.

If you are innocent you must be found not guilty, who ever you are, and whatever college graduate you hired, or was appointed prosecutor.

Most lawyers don’t like the idea of a Justice System especially when they are the so-called defense attorney. They want their client found innocent, even if he is guilty. No way does a defense lawyer want Justice — that is, convict the guilty, acquit the innocent.

If you were driving under the influence, you are guilty, friend or enemy, or whoever, and you must be found guilty. If your defense lawyer knows you are guilty, he must be executed if he gets you declared innocent.

His job is to defend the Justice System, not just the individual.


Stop Water Pollution!
BAN LAWYERS FROM SWIMMING!

Bob
I agree on your lawyer post. A lotto to see who gets fed to the sharks.

Tort lawyers? No lotto! A 100% purge! haha


Anne
And Oxygen!

jim
tell Lolo I am still here. Although not as much as before but I still keep checking in and out.

Tell her I hope she is back as soon as possible

Thanks

The liberal definition of a cut.
To a liberal a cut-monitarily speaking-is when they receive a smaller increase than they were expecting. To conservatives-and honest economists-a cut is an actual reduction in what you recieve.

Examples:

You make 30 thousand dollars a year. You expect to have a pay increase of ten thousand, but you only get five, resulting in an increase, albiet smaller than what you were expecting. This is NOT a pay cut.


You make 30 thousand dollars a year. Your boss tells you that-due to cutbacks- your salary will be reduced to 25 thousand a year. This IS a pay cut.

Do those of you on the left understand this? You call conservatives greedy, yet you get frothy whenever your pet programs do not get a seven or eight percent increase at the end of the year.

Too many
There are far too many lawyers in this society. And I am not saying they are all bad people or that we dont need some of them. But we could do with a lot less.

John Konop
I linked to that page, and as I expected, Bush is not cutting medicare. This is something those of you on the left need to understand: A reduction in the rate of growth is NOT a cut.

If you are expecting a ten dollar raise and you only get seven dollars, do you tell your friends that your boss cut your salary by three bucks?

Medicare is more than TEN TIMES what it was projected to cost when it was created over 40 years ago. It increases by 7 percent per year. That is more than twice the rate of inflation.

The problem with these socialist programs is, they never shrink. They always grow, and they always grow at significantly more than we are told they will when they are instituted.

As for Iraq, you may not like this war, but the military is one of the things government is supposed to pay for. By the way, the US spends about 20 percent of its entire federal budget on the military. Not just Iraq, but the entire military. This is a smaller percentage than many other industrialized nations. Frankly, I want a strong military no matter what is going on in the world.

The rest are slaves
“… there was a society of men among us, bred up from their youth in the art of proving, by words multiplied for the purpose, that white is black, and black is white, according as they are paid. To this society all the rest of the people are slaves.”

Jonathan Swift, "Gulliver’s Travels," AD 1726.


An announcement from lolo !!!!!

Well, this is a little off Burt’s subject, but it is important, and of interest to many. I asked lolo what I could post about her progress - I refuse to talk about her status - and she sent the following.

---------------

From lolo,
Where in the heck is Bman, GunnyG, Sgt, Georgetwin, Mrs. paddy, Farmer's wife, nanna, geez I could go on and on there. A whole host of people. Hope they didn't get the boot before I ever get back!!!

**I am truly sorry to hear about Lumberjack's mother and Doc's father! That means all of that took place during the holidays. that really saddens me. Please tell them how deeply sorry I am for them when you get the chance.**

**When you get the chance also please tell YLG, Anne, HalD. Motley and the rest I may be down but don't count me out just yet!!! Their prayers and well wishes mean a lot to me and count more than they can ever truly know.

My surgery went well, and I am back at a rehabilitative hospital. I have a few hurdles still yet, but I am making progress now and at least have a light at the end of the tunnel. It isn't so daunting now.

For YLG: Chocolate and ice cream for dinner! Count me in!!!! How soon can she adopt me?**


Lilly/others
There appears to be some confusion here on what constitutes a "trial lawyer". I have always heard this term used to describe a lawyer who specializes in civil actions. In other words, a John Edwards type dead baby channeler.

What I have heard used for people who defend criminals is a "criminal lawyer". That is opposed to a lawyer like Clinton who was a criminal. In my original post I stated I had no problem with criminal lawyers or business lawyers.

These terms are probably not official “bar association” terms, but that is the context that they are generally used in by the public.

LAWYERS: NECESSARY "EVIL"
Having had a vocation as a legal secretary for more years than I care to remember, I can both applaud and take umbrage (that's an old word, isn't it?) at your characterization of lawyers in general. The one concerning Edwards is okay.

Really, they are necessary in helping make the world go 'round. And they helped put bread on my table for a number of years.

Not only that, but, at least for the last ten years of my working life, I worked for a wonderful, talented, well-liked intellectual property attorney who was a partner in an international firm of some reknown. Perhaps my "defense" of this great man results from the fact that he truly appreciated my efforts to assist him in being a wonderful, talented, well-liked attorney who also, not incidentally, performed fabulous work for his clients.

Long live some attorneys!

Too many?
Are these numbers correct?

1 lawyer for every 140 households!

Note: Car repair chains also have their own conspiracy setups.= they refuse to fix your flat tire, but they will sell you 4 new tires & they won't fix a leaky break cylinder, but they will replace ALL of your breaks.

Vic
Regarding Lilly, It's hard to argue with someone stuck on stupid

lilly
No, it means that trial lawyers muddy the waters, twist the laws, and generally lie to get scumbags BACK on the streets.

What we NEED is a three-strikes, you're frigging DEAD law. After three crimes, it's pretty clear that the scumbag AIN'T gonna be rehabilitated.

IT ALL DEPENDS
on what the definition of "is" is.

Vic: Need Explanation, Please
Re "I think that trial lawyers are a blight on society"---does that mean you would prefer that those charged with a crime be sentenced and punished without defense, or without a trial?


Yeah!
That Gonzales guy sure was a snake! Total idiot, and probably holds the record for most televised lies. Next in line is Mukasey. Yet anther lawyer snake who will argue black is white, up is down, and we have to wade through this crap while knowing he is lying simply because he can get away with side-stepping legal speak. You can tell when they speak that they are clearly avoiding the legal aspect of the tough questions.

Was PA's Santorum a lawyer? He argued for medical lawsuit caps. then had the audacity to sue a hospital FOR MORE THAN HIS REQUIRED CAP!! He must be a lawyer, because we all know that only lawyers would so such a thing. -- Edit: he has a law degree. Figures.

I sure would want Edwards on my side if I received tainted blood or an overdose of medication from a doctor that affected me in a bad way. Too bad he was so successful as an attorney because it gives rabid Cons a "reason" to hate him. Maybe Santorum's wife deserved the money, maybe not. Should we blame Edwards for Santorum raking in all that money?

I wonder if Burt ever sued for something? He probably has time to write this crap because of a frivolous lawsuit, and that his rant does not apply to him.

WOW!

That lawyer dude from the article (the one helping the escaping criminal get his money) makes even John Edwards look like a productive member of our society.

Burt,
The only mistake I can find here is in the seventh paragraph. If you subtract $410 from $3,014,170,389,176,410, you get $3,014,170,389,176,000, not $3,014,170,389,176.

That's a difference of $3,011,156,218,787,234.

Other than that, your column is dead on!!

FIVE STARS!!!!

sawdust
awe, common! Let j k ramble about something that has nothing to do with the article. After all, everybody needs to feel loved.

And
here I thought they were both the same proffession!

John Konop
apparently believes that cutting Medicare is a bad thing. At least that is the idea I get from his post. I wonder if Konop would be so kind as to state the article and section of the Constitution which gives the government power to take money out of his pocket to pay for my health care. I can't find it.

Burt, Lawyers Are not Allowed...
to comment about other Lawyers. Like Doctors, Professional Engineers and Architects, their Code of Ethics says you do not speak ill of other professionals. If you do speak ill, you risk a lawsuit or being brought up before a State Board to explain why you did so.

Having said that, as a Professional Engineer in 4 states, I too have problems with the actions of many lawyers in the USA. Having a brother-in-law who is a lawyer in Tennessee, he too has problems with the actions of many in his profession.

The Solution? Each of the above mentioned professional groups (Doctors, Lawyers, Engineers, and Architects) MUST POLICE THEIR OWN! I have noticed that in Mississippi, the Engineer's State Board is starting to do this.

(BTW, you cannot call yourself a Lawyer, Doctor, Engineer, or Architect UNLESS you pass a series of tests, go through an internship, and are reviewed by a state board. Just graduating in engineering makes you nothing more than an engineering graduate.)

nuff said
this says all that needs to be said about lawyers.

Well, AudiR10
Thanks for standing up for the barristers. There's gotta be some good ones somewhere. It's just hard sometimes to believe it.

Leave it to beastie....

Heaven only knows why he even bothers to post on TH. What a waste of time and bandwidth!


Know how many "laywer jokes" there are?

NONE! They're all TRUE!!!


The Devil, You Say?
Speaking of lawyers, does everyone remember the movie "The Devil's Advocate" with Al Pacino and Keanu Reeves?

I love the line where Al Pacino (playing Old Scratch himself) reveals that the devil is behind the overabundance of attorneys in America.
I don't remember the exact wording of the line, but if one of you does, please post it. It was one of my favorite movie lines.

I remember thinking (with tongue in cheek) that that explains a lot.

Crme now pays, and people know it
Much of society has develoved into a crowd that screams, "Give us Barabbas!", but expects the results of having received a Savior. What to do when life doesn't cooperate with your personal agenda? Sue! Simply take what others have produced and never compromise your sense of self-righteousness! And there are legions of degreed parasites who infest the population and promise to only eat away the rancid flesh. People have learned they can get something for nothing, and lawyers get rich off of it. Game over.

It is the rare lawyer who tends to the legal organization of society. Perhaps we need to think about national legal care?

Let's not forget that 'ho Ann Coulter
You wanna talk about teaching snakes to crawl? To compare her to a member of the oldest profession is to demean hard-working ladies of the evening.

SJ Doc
You hit the nail right on the head. Lawyers legislate themselves job security. I think one of the biggest conflicts of interest is appointing lawyers to the bench.

A recession proof job
I have worked for lawyers for 21 years and when union pukes and college graduates are bawling themselves into puddles of tears because they cannot find a *MEANINGFUL* job, whatever in Hades that may be, I have headhunters calling me. When I lost my last job it took me 20 minutes to find another one. Yes, it is hard work and the hoIn turs can extend unexpectedly and if you get the flu in the middle of a deadline rush, the pharmacy is your friend. Nevertheless you will not ever have to worry about being unemployed, and even if you are in the prime breeding years, you will be tenderly nurtured so you will come back after your year off with pay.

In the years I have worked for lawyers I have had only one who was a mental case and even he, an international tax and finance lawyer, was respected by his clients. By contrast the insurance people I worked for tended to be much more devious and crooked, and to fire the staff without warning.

One law firm, a midsized group of happy anarchists sold out to a megafirm of Faceless Clones and lost a lot of employees before they reformed their ways; another one bought our small firm and moved up from Texas to stave off bankruptcy, and had a vry hard time realizing that underpaying and mistreating the staff in a booming economy meant that the staff could go upstairs and get another job in minutes.

Currently I work in construction law and anybody could rear a family of four on the money I make. And yes we do hire men if they can do the job. After all, they are not going to repair our hard work of training them by getting pregnant!

GREATTTTttt
Great column as usual , Burt.
I think you will get 98% approval for this one!

That Thompson post is the second I have seen in an article with no reference to the article whatever.
Thompson fans, great as the original promise was , it's OVER!

On second thought
Sorry for the double click! Lawyers might not be the "second oldest profession," They're in bed with the oldest profession.

What a hoot
I think that the lawyer should go after the sheet producers too, such faulty fabric! He could go after God for making the ground too hard, but then he'd be taking on the ABA (Diety their posture).

What a hoot
I think that the lawyer should go after the sheet producers too, such faulty fabric! He could go after God for making the ground too hard, but then he'd be taking on the ABA (Diety their posture).

Bush wants $200 billion in Medicare cuts
How will this play with Americans while Bush and congress is spending 9 billion a month in Iraq?

Politico-

Setting the stage for one last budget battle with the Democratic Congress, President Bush plans to propose $178 billion in long term cuts to Medicare in the fiscal 2009 budget he will unveil on Monday.

A White House official confirmed Thursday that Bush will propose $208 billion in mandatory budget reductions in all, with Medicare cuts taking up the majority of that figure.

READ MORE

http://controlcongress.com/uncategorized/bush-wants-200-bil lion-in-medicare-cuts


When Hillary convene her star chamber...
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...on "health care reform" in 1993, a pointed effort was made to prevent *ANY* doctors from either participating in those tightly-secured proceedings or getting wind of what was being discussed in there by her oh-so-enlightened cabal of "experts" on the government's proposed takeover of 17% of the GDP (i.e., the health care sector of the economy).

It seems that us doctors would be unduly influenced by a professional "conflict of interest."

So let's roll that concern about "conflict of interest" over into an examination of lawyers.

Most lawyers make their living by practicing law.

Big surprise.

So don't most lawyers have a fatal inability to keep from succumbing to "conflict of interest" when legislating (i.e., *CREATING* laws) or adjudicating (judging cases at law)?

So if us doctors are supposed to be pariahs forbidden at the table when Hillary is deciding how to enslave us, why aren't lawyers forbidden to run for legislative office or serve as judges or justices?

This makes sense in another way.

Much as the lawyers think and behave to the contrary, the laws are made and administered for *ALL* of our sakes, and must be lived under by those of us who don't have law school educations.

Shouldn't they be *MADE* by non-lawyers, too?

And if reasonably perspicacious non-lawyers can't judge cases under those laws, however in hell can non-lawyers *LIVE* with those laws?

Keeping lawyers out of the legislatures and off the benches of the nation would serve us superbly, both individually and as a nation.

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Good one Burt
Like you we probably all tend to tar all lawyers with the same brush. I don’t have a problem with business lawyers and criminal lawyers, but I think trial lawyers are blight on society. That old joke about 99% giving one percent a bad name is all too true.

If you have a good heart, monitor this site, but be sure to take your blood pressure pills first.

http://www.overlawyered.com/index.html

Too Much Credit Given to Lawyers
"After all, many lawyers serve a useful function as they go about drawing up contracts and wills."

RECOGNIZE of course, that the REASON you need a lawyer to write up contracts and wills is because LAWYERS have made the whole process so GOSH-DANGED COMPLICATED!!

So, I wouldn't use these lawyers as the sorts of people who are supposed to represent the "best of the breed".



Q: What do you call 500 lawyers at the bottom of the ocean?
A: A good start.

Q: When the lawyer fell out of the boat, why wasn't he bitten by a shark?
A: Professional courtesy.

Congress and Law Degrees
Does anyone know how many senators and congresspeople have law degrees? For some reason it seems like most politicians have a law background. Or is it that most Democratic politicians are lawyers? Maybe that explains why congress has around an 11% approval rating.

Thanks Burt. As usual, your writing reflects a great deal of sanity in an insane world.

Burt wrote:
"Speaking of John Edwards, I bet when he saw those kinds of numbers being bandied about, he regretted wasting his time running for president."
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Now Edwards can freely devote all of his time to helping "the little guy," so he can make up for the millions he has lost.
*****
Burt: Great article!

Always five stars.
*****




Thanks, Burt!
I needed a good laugh before hitting the sheets!

See if you can get them to publish this one a couple of more times.

5 Stars!!!!!
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