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Monday, June 08, 2009
Ashley Herzog :: Townhall.com Columnist
Liberal Sexist Pigs
by Ashley Herzog
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Brace yourselves, readers, because it’s not over yet. This year has been Misogyny Mania for liberals who claim to be “pro-woman.”

First there was the character assassination of Miss California Carrie Prejean, in which liberals thought a deft response to her anti-gay marriage comments was to call her a slut. By saying that marriage should be between a man and a woman, Prejean did nothing more than restate the official position of Barack Obama, Joe Biden, John Kerry, Bill Clinton—and every other male politician liberals adore. There’s no doubt that Prejean’s femininity determined how the media treated her. As Miss USA owner Donald Trump said, “If her beauty wasn’t so great, nobody really would have cared.”

*** Special Offer ***

That’s how liberal woman-haters think. Male politicians are allowed to have opinions; young beauty pageant contestants aren’t. Even Feministing.com editor Jessica Valenti acknowledged that they were “fighting homophobia with misogyny.”

Then, last week, the pigs at Playboy magazine published a list of ten conservative women they’d like to “hate f-ck,” because “we may despise everything these women represent, but goddammit they’re hot.”

A “hate f-ck” sounds like rape to me, which I assume was Playboy’s point. The list was filled with leering observations about the women’s “tight bodies” and “saucy looks,” and concluded with each woman’s “hate f-ck rating.”

Gross.

This is coming from a magazine that claims to respect women. In 2005, Hugh Hefner’s daughter Christie told feminist author Ariel Levy that Playboy works to promote “sexual liberation” for its models, and Hugh himself has declared that women were the main beneficiaries of the sexual revolution. The Playboy Foundation is a major supporter of reproductive rights and other progressive causes.

So Playboy is obviously a cheerleader for gender equality—as long as you’re a naked sex object who needs an abortion. Just don’t express any opinions. Then liberals will openly discuss their desire to put you back in your place with a violent sexual encounter.

It’s no surprise that Michelle Malkin was number one on Playboy’s gross list. Malkin enrages racist liberal woman-haters because she doesn’t conform to their porno fantasies of a passive, compliant Asian woman. As she discussed at length in her 2005 book Unhinged, she is often subjected to racialized sexual denigration from liberals who call her a “mail-order bride” and a “whore” for the Republican Party. Every time Malkin opens her mouth, you can practically see their jaws drop: Who does this little Asian woman think she is? (Playboy referred to her as a “highly f-ckable Filipina.”)

It doesn’t matter whether they’re forbidding Carrie Prejean to say things Joe Biden is allowed to say or fantasizing about raping overly opinionated conservatives. Sexist liberals have always been open about their desire to prevent women from talking. Two years ago, some slobbering loser responded to one of my Townhall columns by writing, “I don't know Ashley Herzog. Never heard of her before today. I would, however, go so far to say that I would date her if she promised not to say anything.”

Nice work. Especially from people who are constantly screaming about the right’s “war on women.”

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Ashley Herzog is a Townhall columnist and the author of Feminism vs. Women.

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Women Can Say Anything...
As long as it isn't pro-modesty, pro-saving sex for marriage, pro-marriage, pro-life, or affirming of virtuous masculinity. See how simple that is?

As for the attacks on marriage:
http://walrus.blogtownhall.com/2009/05/26/handy_dandy_marri age_neutering_plea_repellant.thtml

Pro-hedonism
Liberal men, by and large, are NOT pro-WOMAN; they're pro-HEDONISM.

Mr. Hefner is the penultimate example of this. And take a look at ostensibly pro-woman liberal politicians such as Bill Clinton, Ted Kennedy, Robert Packwood, Gary Condit, etc. To these men, woman are nothing more than sexual playthings, to be used, enjoyed, and discarded.

Does anyone think it's just a coincidence that liberal male politicians are so vehemently pro-abortion? Of course not. Being the hedonists they are, they do not want to have to accept responsibility for their sexual dalliances.

Thank you Ms. Herzog
for writing an article exposing Playboy for the "woman loving" fraud they are. Playboy and anyone that is associated with their organization are bottom feeders.

I wrote a letter to Playboy and challenged them to ask every one of their employees to show the article to their family members, wives, daughters, sisters, and read it out loud to them. I challenged them to read the words out loud and then remind them that they earn their living from such a reprehensible organization. I wonder how many employees of Playboy would proudly have read that article to their family members??? I'm guessing no one.

What the left represents in this country is getting worse by the day. I have said it before and I will continue to say it -- if a person proudly wears the badge of "liberal" then in my book, you are not a good person. Liberal philosophy has become so distorted. I can't even believe how every perverted, disgusting choice of life is always shielded by a "liberal view point."

YOU GO GIRL!
Thanks for calling those pigs exactly what they are:

in my word: Creepy, sexually sick liars who actually hate True Feminism...as far as I am concerned, they don't exist--what normal man would read Playboy? it's for kids, let's face it--Hugh Pig Heffner just never made it past puberty.

Rowdy Boots

News Flash
Liberals do not care about minorities, women or your children. It's all political games to them and figuring out how to "win". There true motivation is evident in that fact, not just to win but, more accurately, "beat" the people they hate. They believe in nothing, stand for nothing, but unite around their common enemies - conservatives, patriots, capitalists and individualists.

They're non sequitur political agenda is a mixed bag of similar "tricks".

I feel violated
That I ever touched a playboy magazine in my life. I just really cannot express how disgusted I am, I feel like I just killed a child or something. I had no idea the makers of playboy were that psychotic. Unbelievable how people who claim they are pro-women have the capability to be such low-lives.

Vincent
"That's good. You've taken your first step into a larger world." -- Obi-Wan Kenobi

These are not nice people.
I look at this way.. Consider the mindset of those who voted for Ted Kennedy in his first election after Chappaquiddick. If that didn't bother their conscience, what would?

Let's not forget the SOBama voters...
.
...who wore those

PALIN IS A C*NT

t-shirts.

Vincent ... I'd rather not feel violated
myself but thanks for your thoughts.

What's with the VA Late Nighters?
Are you guys in the same dorm or something?

F##@K#@s be damned
These pigs on the left have no concept of what a real sexual relationship & experience is. The think of it as a screw job and a power trip. And as long as they keep on in their perverted, insulting power trip they will never, never experience the experience of making love which is a mutually satisfiying experience between a man and woman that enhances both their lives. LOSERS!!!

No Wonder,
No wonder they get along so well with the Islamo-fascist/Jihadists -- who can only be distracted from their war against the US by an opportunity to violently subjugate their mothers, sisters, and daughters.

The common factor is fear -- fear that associating with a woman who is truly strong, intelligent, and capable would reveal their own lack of manhood.

So, instead, those left-liberal male persons (who do not deserve to be called men), have to trick women into thinking that becoming a whore so cheap they don't even ask for any money is "liberation" while throwing the figurative acid via the media's corrosive attacks to any woman who dares to stand up and speak for herself. They probably secretly envy the Islamo-fascists ability to throw the real thing.

Empowering Women
Liberals obviously have the same misogynist views that they have always accused conservatives of having, except their sexism is alloyed with hypocrisy. They say they want to empower women, but look how they react to powerful women who refuse to conform to liberalism. Perez Hilton's rant is the perfect example. Carrie Prejean's answer was not a very thoughtful one, but, despite his claims to the contrary, Hilton's rant was always about the values she expressed. Resorting to b**** and c*** is usually the first retort for a man who is crossed by a woman who fails to show sufficient deference.In Hilton's attempt to get in touch with his inner man, he emoted all over himself. ( click my handle to see my extended comments in my West Coast Story blog. . .he is pretty, and witty, and gay alright. Hate f*** (rape) is the ultimate sexist power trip.(Remember, feminists tell us that rape is not about sex, it is about power). It appears that the only real empowerment liberals really want for women is reproductive empowerment, i.e., abortion.

They are trying to intimidate women
Liberals don't think. They emote. They are not rational, creatures, Eternal children, most of them, so why should it surprise any of us that they throw insults at women who dare disagree with them - and do it openly? "Life is a 10 year old playground. You don't agree with me I say the meanest thing I can about you, your parents and your family?" Is what they are thinking even if they never articulate it.
Liberals don't love women they don't give a darn for women's rights. They only love having people agree with them. Don't, and you are stupid and what ever adjectives come to their mouths, first, like 10 year olds.
This I refuse to do, therefore, along with the brave women mentioned in this article, I am a target of insults, I suppose. Big deal.

Liberals and burkas
If the current administration has it's way, the liberals will have no need to fear intelligent conservative women. We'll all be wearing burkas, or be dead from multiple Hate F****.

If you don't believe it, take a look at what is happening in all the other dictatorships around the world.

Think it couldn't happen here? Guess again! It's already started.

Homegrown Jihad: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hPebatL5_c&feature=related

Martial Law: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gewp3aVWku4&feature=related

I Know a Man,
I know a man, ...

Ex-military, a big guy in height and weight with a domineering personality, chews cigars, drives a rusty rattletrap of a truck -- essentially the personification of the left-libs worst hyperventilation about redneck conservatives.

He's the biggest advocate I know for women getting concealed carry permits so that they can protect themselves from society's scumbags. He'll give classes for the cost of the materials. If you need it bad enough he'll cover that.

He's not afraid of women being his equal. It doesn't challenge his manhood when women think. And he is eager to give women the medicine they need to cure those who would “hate f-ck” them. That medicine being lead -- in doses ranging from .380 to .45 caliber doses.


HEFNER
IS NOTHING BUT A LOWLIFE PlMP.

USAconservativemom ...
WRT your challenge of employees reading the article to their families, I think you drastically underestimate just how low a level we've sunk. I'd be willing to lay odds that, not only would many be willing to read it, they would sit around having a real good belly laugh while it was read.

Tod Kozeluh
Lexington, KY

What drives liberal women nuts
is that most conservative women on the national scene are not only intellectually superior to them, but also more physically attractive. They can't deal with the double-whammy of smarts and good looks. They're reduced to apoplectic tantrums of personal attack which, by the way, makes them look silly.

Another Log
Just more fuel for the fire in the Liberal world of the Double-Standard.

It's like Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-NY) warning the Republicans that any 'criticism' of Sonia Sotamayor could be viewed as both sexist and racist and that they riskied the scorn of women and Hispanic voters if they crossed the line.

The Democrats, the Liberals and the MSM do everthing in their power to humiliate Sarah Palin on a daily basis and excoriated both Clarence Thomas and Alberto Gonzales during their Supreme Court nomination hearings.

The true indicator of a National Dysfunction is that despite the treatment these people (groups) receive, Blacks, Hispanics and women still vote for Democrats.

The viscious cycle of abuse is akin to the wome who finally divorces her drunken woman-beating husband only to find herself in the exact same situation at a later time.

She ends up with the same guy but with a different name.

Blacks have been voting for Democrats for an entire generation and it has gotten them NOWHERE, the way Clarence Thomas was treated by the Democrats wasn't even a speed bump to them while they were on their way to the polls.

It's not until the pain of their own experience has become acute enough and they don't have anybody else to blame but themselves that any real change for them will come.

Now we've got a Black President and a Black (Panther pardoning) Attorney General...everything should be paradise now, eh?

On wait - I forgot - George Bush is still available to blame for everything.

And so the cycle continues.


Common ground
When I was working in India a few months ago, I came across two particularly disturbing newspaper articles.

--The first was about a bride who was beaten half to death by her new husband because he was unhappy with the dowry he'd received from her family.

--The second was about a young woman who was gang-raped by 10 thugs, and how people in these young mens' home village were all rushing to their defense and accusing the woman of being the instigator.

(The silver lining to these stories was that the public reaction one of disgust and revulsion, and the Indian authorities moved quickly and severely to make arrests and get the wheels of justice turning. At least India is trying to overcome some of that old baggage and step into the 21st century.)

I've heard of some bad goings-on in the Arab countries I've been to also, such as physical & sexual abuse of female domestic workers, and I've seen the whole Bhurka thing in person.

The point of this rambling -- People like Hugh Hefner are worse than those thugs in the Indian village. Their attitudes about women are the same, I'm sure they would engage in rape if they thought they could get away with it, and they don't even have the excuse of "culture" to fall back on.

I see Little Difference

I see Little Difference between the Islamic hatred for women and Liberal hatred for women.

I suppose the main difference is, that the Islamists want their women covered from head to toe in Burkha's and Liberals want their women naked.

Their goals are the same, neither Islamists nor Liberals want their women to have any dignity.

The commonality between Liberals and Islamists is the 'Fear' of the power that women hold in 'Influence'.

Even the most casual observer of human nature, can see that the male is oriented (or has a tendency) towards decision making and the female is oriented towards influencing those decisions.

Humans tend to 'Bristle' at my observation, assuming that I mean that females are incapable of making decisions or males are incapable of influence - that couldn't be further from the truth.

Males are more tribal (or team oriented) by nature because of the need for defense of the home, whereas females are more home oriented, because of the need to provide an environment for nurture.

Without the bonding of the male and female, the entire 'Construct' of the family is one of dysfunction.

The 'natural role' of a woman is very difficult - mother, nurturer, wife - many females 'bristle' at that role and wish to be something else, other than what they are.

The 'natural role' of a man is very difficult - father, provider, protector - many males 'bristle' at that role and wish to be something else, other than what they are.

Liberal males and Liberal females are dissatisfied with their natural roles and want their identities based on something other than who and what they are by nature.


Playboy On The Skids.

Losing circulation for years, Playboy now guns for the "Maxim" younger market.

The dumbing down of America.

What passes for "entertainment" continues to degrade our culture. The vile rap. The inane, disgusting sit-coms. America's decline. Playboy must be proud. They're a big part of that cultural decline.


Hate
Why do radical left wing liberals hate...because they hate themselves.

T.C.
Playboy on the skids--I hope so, although the purveyors of the Playboy philosophy keep battling on.

Exhibit A: recent movie reviews the past couple of weeks:

--The critics generally panned the new "Night at the Museum" movie (although audiences seem to love it) -- no graphic violence or perversion to keep them entertained, I guess.
--Meanwhile "The Hangover" is deemed "hilarious."

For me, just hearing the word "hangover" makes me ashamed of certain parts of my misspent youth. For this crowd, it seems to be a condition to strive for.


The Sexual Revolution - Free Love
I'd be interested in learning from other women who lead the sexual revolution on college campuses in the late 60s and early 70s. Free Love - it was neither free nor love as it turned out.

"Hugh himself has declared that women were the main beneficiaries of the sexual revolution."

The sexual revolution was ALWAYS a clever manipulation of women. Liberalism remains the same - merely uses victims.

How has YOUR life been improved by the total devaluation of your body? Oh, did you think 'free' as in freedom? It was 'free' as in worthless.

I can't wait to read any comments speculating on my sexual life and sexual problems. I do so love to chuckle!

I would say
The publication of the Kinsey Report, and Hefner's Playboy in the 1950's were the beginning of the decline TC speaks of.

Liberals read Kinsey's perverted and phony studies and thought, "Hey, little children want to have sex with grown ups."

Men who get their sex education by reading Playboy never figure out who and what women are, remain eternal juveniles who can't commit and are continually disappointed that the females in their life aren't tight bodied, weak minded sex toys.

Thank God, woman are at the forefront of getting some Biblical teaching back into the God given relationship between men and women.

Women are also the only hope of a Islamic Reformation. When they love their children more than they hate Jews and when they refuse to no longer be door mats, maybe the most misogynistic males on the planet, Muslim men, will wise up.

roadmaster
"Women are also the only hope of a Islamic Reformation. When they love their children more than they hate Jews and when they refuse to no longer be door mats, maybe the most misogynistic males on the planet, Muslim men, will wise up."

I've seen chinks in the misogynistic armor over there -- very small ones, and maybe not enough to make a difference, but who knows? Muslim women are not the dumb doormats that everyone seems to think they are.

I have often said throughout my Life

I have often said throughout my Life, that I fear NO man and only one woman.

My oldest daughter asked me once, "Daddy why do you say that about Mom?"

I responded, "My fear is that I might look into her eyes and see disappointment in me, or that she might think I have broken her trust in me."


BUY This Book!
This guy is a blogger and author worthy of a best-seller! http://theblacksphere.blogspot.com/2009/06/big-black-lie-i s-finished.html His book exposes Liberal like no other!

Bulldog74

The frontal attack against Traditional Americans, Christians and family values continues.
................................................................................................

A new film, "Land of the Lost", is aimed at children. The movie, filled with sickening toilet "humor", manages to degrade anyone who took part in making it. Mostly, however, it degrades anyone who watches it. Did I mention the film is AIMED AT CHILDREN!

Can Hollywood get any sicker?












I remember the first time

I remember the first time I saw my future wife, I almost walked into a utility pole.

We have now been married 43 years and she still turns my head when she walks into the room.

The two of us decided early in our marriage that there would be no domination by either of us, or some arbitrary 50-50 in our marriage.

Whichever one of us were the most skilled or knowledgeable in an area, would assume the Leadership role.

We started a business and my wife became the business manager, while I became the Chief Technology officer.

We ran our business almost 30 years that way, with little incidence between us.

Leadership doesn't mean dictatorship but rather a constant communication and giving and taking.

Most of our friends and families would ask "How can you two be together 24/7 and get along so well?"

Our answer was simple "he/she is my best friend".


For a film that's thought provoking,
liberating, inoffensive, culturally aware, and entertaining, I recommend Outsourced. It's readily available and good viewing for anyone 12 and up.

i suppose it sends a liberal message in the older, less debauched sense, but a conservative can watch it without squirming and can feel pretty good at the end, where there is a hint of real women's liberation.

Joel-De Oppresso Liber
I defer to your experience in this area...I know very little Arabic, so I'm sure most of what I see over there is the face that they want to present to Westerners. Still, I've managed to gain a few insights, and I wouldn't be too quick to conclude that your liberation efforts have been in vain.

Of course, one could offer the argument (a lame one, I admit) that Arab men are what they are because they've been brought up and conditioned that way. What's Hugh Hefner's excuse?


In today's TH, we read that
liberals hate women, aren't "doing enough" for homosexuals, and want to keep blacks away from quality education. Yet these three all seem to be primary voting blocks for the Democratic party. Are Democratic voters stupid? Is the pope Catholic?

I find it interesting
that no troll has shown up yet to defend that disgusting list on Playboy or make some juvenile remarks about the women on the list. Usually we would have at least a few of them (IQ-29, will, or Dr. Douglas) making a bunch of inane comments, but not yet. I'll enjoy the fresh air while I can.

I never saw the list because I don't read Playboy, so I don't know all the women who were on it, but what I have heard about it makes me want to vomit. I saw a replay of Megyn Kelly's reply to it on Fox News and I must say she took them to the woodshed. Good for her.

One of my proudesr moments

My wife and I have two daughters, the eldest fortunately or unfortunately takes after me and the youngest after my wife - God had the grace to give both of them my wife's looks.

When my eldest daughter was young, she started playing chess with me, my wife would say "Why don't you let her win once in a while?" - my response was "I just can't do that."

When the eldest reached about 18 or so my wife said to her, "Why don't you let your daddy win once in a while?" - her response "Mom I just can't do that."

That was one of my proudest moments.

Bulldog74 and Joel-De Oppresso Liber
Speaking of Hugh Hefner, what's really sick is what was revealed during an interview of one of his "playmate girlfriends."

The woman (I don't remember her name now) stated that most evenings she spent with Hefner were not spent engaging in wild, liberated sex, but rather in watching gay porn.

Kind of a shock to find out that the man who promotes himself as the ultimate "playboy" who loves women and champions their causes, would rather watch sex acts between two men than enjoying the company of women.

Sick, really. And it just goes to show that when your whole life in unnaturally focused on sex, it's very easy to cross the line into perversion.

When all you have is a hammer...
...everything tends to look like a nail. That's how it is with feminists and the idea of misogyny.

Just as some liberals claim that anyone who criticizes President Obama is a racist, so do some feminists insist that anyone who criticizes a woman is by definition a woman-hater.

Simply hypocrisy is a simpler, and therefore a more likely, explanation. Remember how feminists pilloried Arnold Schwarzenegger over having gotten playful on movie sets decades earlier, even as they studiously ignored Bill Clinton's deplorable behavior with Juanita Broaddrick and Monica Lewinsky?

Retired Geek
My wife and I have been married for 54 years,and although she is a few pounds overweight,I always tell her,that to me she is sexier than all those model babes on tv.We also spend most of our time together.

How does this surprise anyone?
Nancy Pelosi, Diane Feinstein, Barbara Boxer, Maxine Waters,Cindy Sheehan, Whoppi,Hillary Clinton, Michelle Obama,Sonia Sotomayor, I mean come on, they're all victims, facially challenged, and it's George Bush's fault.

Curtal Friar, T.C., Old Prof
Curtal Friar--What do we expect, the guy probably hasn't engaged in healthy normal sex for decades. He's never been that handsome, he has a voice like Donald Duck, and if he didn't have zillions of dollars no female would be caught dead with him.

T.C. -- Audiences keep opting for good movies (we saw "Up" and "Night at the Museum II" this weekend, along with a LOT of other people), I'm not surrendering in the culture war just yet.

OldProf -- finally , someone else whose seen "Outsourced." I keep recommending it to people, but they tell me they can't find it at Blockbuster.


Liberalism and Women

Central to Liberalism is the mentality of 'Collectivism versus Individuality'.

Liberals do NOT view women as individuals but rather as a part of a 'Collectivist Group'.

Liberals abhor the Individual, especially if that Individual doesn't fit into the 'Collective Group' that the Liberal has assigned them.

Women like Sarah Palin, Michelle Malkin, Ann Coulter and Ashley Herzog et al seem brazen and unintelligent because they do NOT fit the 'Liberal Collective' or mold that the Liberal mind has concocted for them - they don't like my wife or daughters or millions of other women either.

Recognition of Individual strength and weakness, takes someone who is capable of making decisions based on facts, logic and reason - something which a Liberal is incapable of doing.

Liberals see women as nothing more than 'Sex Objects', as Ashley has detailed in her column.

When a female doesn't stay in the 'Liberal Collective', the veil of Liberalism drops and females are attacked viciously using all of the Liberals 'True Beliefs' that females are only sex objects, to be used and abused - then discarded.


Bulldog
I saw "Up" on opening day with my son, and we both enjoyed it.

While I must say that the bulk of what Hollywood produces these days is junk, there is the occasional gem that gets through. The movie "Amazing Grace" springs readily to mind.

I used to go to the movies all the time. The first year of my marriage, my wife and I enjoyed going to see a movie every week. Nowadays, it's more like three or four movies out of a calendar year.

"Fireproof" was another enjoyable movie that my wife and I went out to see.

Netflix
has Outsourced available.

Joel-De Oppresso Liber et al

Joel wrote: "...It is true that the Islamic men have been 'conditioned' to be that way. However, even if it is your parents fault for how you are, it is your fault if you CHOOSE to stay that way..."

Great words!

No one can help how or where they were born, but all all responsible as individuals for what they become.

I am proud to be on the same army with you!

Retired Geek, Joel-De Oppresso Liber
Liberals spout that a woman must be a bra-burning man-hater in order to be "happy", reach her "full potential", and experience "freedom". What a bunch of hogwash!

My husband is also my best friend and my companion 24/7. He is very gifted in certain areas, while I have skills that complement those gifts. We work together for the good of the TEAM.

It's amazing how following God's plan for a family can lead to true happiness. That's something feminists don't want women to know.

My husband and I work together, play together, etc. We enjoy each other's company so much, we do not like to be apart. And we also have a rich and rewarding life.

Everyone who knows us comments on our happy marriage. My grandchildren and great-grandchildren all say they want to have the kind of marriage Grammy & Papa have.

I love the fact that my husband is a real man (in the best sense of the term) and I am proud to be his wife.

When the family is strong, as God intended, the family thrives and grows ever closer. We even got our Concealed Weapons permits together.

Real Men
AKA conservative men, don't have to dominate women in any way.

Like them or not, one prime example are the Palins. Sarah's ambition and strength doesn't threaten her husbands masculinity.

KUDOS to TH conservative men who have posted so nicely about their wives -- you are a shining example of all that is good in conservatism.

WHY I NEVER READ PLAYBOY

.....I like strong willed women who are intelligent and athletic ...

.....Playboy degrades women by treating them as sex objects ...

.....Liberals always degrade women ...in the sixties the mantra was "free love" under the guise of liberation ...the feminists pushed abortion "rights" as a way to declare independence from men and "mother and homemaker" began dirty words in the Liberal lexicon ...

.....The Liberal goal has always been to pull women down off their pedastels and into the mud with men ...subjects that were unthinkable in the fifties ...domestic partnerships, single parent moms, abortion on demand, same sex marriage, teen age sex ... are all commonplace today ...

.....I can't believe that so many women have bought into the the Liberal lies .....COLOSSUS

Joel and That Old Tyme Religion
Your bible text does not really say much about conversion. It calls them plunder. And Dt. 21:10-14 describes how to plunder the women: make them wives . . . sort of. Mistress might be a more appropriate term.

(more coming)

Why is anyone surprised?
this is only one of the issues where Libs have exhbited their consisten bi-polarity. How about the liberal position of putting a criminal's rights above those of their victims? Have they ever exhibited any common sense here?

How about liberal politicians (both parties) stealing wealth, aka punitive taxes, from the producers of wealth and using it to buy votes from non producers? If you or I did what these chumps do, we'd be in prison.

Progressives... just means our country is getting Progressively more like Russia. Just check out the Pravda article about Obama's first 100 days.

My hen
recently hatched nine new baby chicks. Hope Hef doesn't find out. They do let us shoot dogs and foxes that attack our animals, though.

baseballdoc
"...the feminists pushed abortion "rights" as a way to declare independence from men ..."

Funny how the whole perception was turned upside down.

A typical pre-1960s screenplay might have had a plot line like this:
--Rotten cad seduces his secretary, gets her pregnant
--She wants him to marry her so they can raise their child together
--He pushes her to get an abortion
--Along comes a REAL man, punches out the rotten cad, marries the girl and becomes the best dad ever to the kid

I'll leave it to your imagination to write today's Oscar winning screenplay.

Joel and That Old Tyme Religion
In advertently, you have hit on part of Islam's problem. It is a primitive religion rooted in patriarchy. Ancient Jews and Christians used to be the same way. They demanded submission of their wife or wives (Eph. 5:22, I Peter 3:5-6)controlled their religious life (Nu. 30:6-8, I Cor 14:34-35),and engaged in honor killings (Dt. 22:13-21). Only exposure to common sense secular Western ideas took the edge off. Unfortunately, these days it seems all the secular West has to offer is middlebrow emissions of the crotch-watchers of Hugh Hefner's Playboy and the Democratic Party platform.

Retired Geek
Thanks for your great posts and insights. I agree with you wholeheartedly. God's blessings to you and your wife, sir.

Individual Responsibility vs Collective

I spent many months and several tours in Cairo Egypt, training the Computer Department of the Ministry of Education, advanced programming skills and databases.

The project was headed up by Harvard University and Research Triangle Institute, under the auspices of the US Government.

My class consisted of both Christians (a few) and Muslims and men and women.

Several students held Masters degrees from US Universities and other foreign universities.

The most difficult cultural problem I encountered - from a teaching aspect - was the same 'We Mentality' that is prevalent among American Liberals.

I found that the students had a very difficult time admitting their computer code might contain errors that they were accountable for and had to 'fix', as an individual.

The students would say 'our or we' instead of 'MY' code has 'bugs'.

Our project leader from Harvard was a Psychiatrist who after attending one of my classes (after the class had been ongoing several weeks) said to me over dinner one evening "I am absolutely amazed, that your students are accepting responsibility for their individual errors, instead of assigning them to the group as a whole."

He gave me a very disturbed look when I said - "I have the same problem with many students in America, Individualism versus Collective thinking."




TELL US WHAT YOU REALLY THINK
So, Ashley, why don't you tell us what you really think?

Actually, I'm SO GLAD a young woman like Ahsley has the guts to tell it like it is; spare no verbage, use the words THEY used; so that there is no mistaking the level of sickening perverted sadism these type people ascribe to. And of course, as we all know, it's the people who defend this (Playboy) kind of garbage who also vote for the liberals (what a surprise). That's why I always ask my democrat friends "Don't you think there is something wrong with being on the same side of the fence with baby-killers, homosexuals, traditional marriage haters, muslim terrorist sympathizers, America-haters, Christian-haters, white-haters, U.S. military haters, and Israel haters?

No surprise
Groats' actual representation of women's rights comes in their stand against (selective) female foeticide--oh, that's right no groat ever HAS PROTESTED against this practice!

The Liberal Mindset
The examples in this article are just added proof of the intolerance for the liberal mindset for anything that disagrees with their perception of the world. Their goal, destroy anyone or anything that even has the appearance of being effective in communicating an alternative message.

I for one have had it with their "in-your-face" attitudes. Since we on the right are such "hate mongers" and prone to violence, well, we might as well live up to their sterotypical expectations.

Tuxedoexpress et al

Your marriage and mine sounds like it is based on the same foundation - mutual friendship, trust, respect and admiration.

Ain't life great lol

Sound of crickets chirping
As I wait in vain for some troll to step up and defend the likes of Hugh Hefner...

Joel-De Oppresso Liber

I saw your comment on reinforcements arriving.

I am so used to being called names, vilified and hated here at Town Hall - I didn't know how to respond. lol

When I joined Town Hall and some other websites, I knew my Christian conservative views would be hated by many.

That is why I chose the handle of 'Retired Geek', I wanted to beat the Liberals to the punch of being called names.

Before my conversion from Humanist/Atheist/Marxist had their been websites where I posted - I would have been the Liberals darling - God changed all of that.

He who is forgiven much, defends the Faith strongly. 1st Retired Geek verse 1

Joel and That Old Tyme Religion
The KJV says spoil, which in Hebrew means prey, or better yet, booty.
I don't know that that softens it a bit.

Liberal men
hate women.

The peace movement and black power movement were full of discrimination and mysogyny as reported by the women who participated in them.

The group that most supports abortion on demand is single men -- wonder why?

Liberals don't believe in the 1st amendment for religious speech, but raping women on film is the highest form of free speech.

Liberal men have completely objectified women in popular culture.

The list goes on and on.

Liberal men hate women because they don't want the responsibilities of their masculine role or are too weak to meet those responsibilities as such they resent their mommies, girlfriends, wives, female coworkers and bosses.

For a weak man, the provider and protector role is an impossiblity and terrifies them. The women in their lives must take on these roles and when they capaby do so these men hate them for showing them and the world their weaknesses.

Time for my volunteer work

Before I go, I want to mention something about the Barack Obama speech in Cairo.

Where were the words in Barack Obama's speech about 'Honor Killings' or 'Forced Clitorectomies' or women being sentenced to death for being a 'Victim of Rape' or 100 lashes for 'Adultery' or forced 'Veilings'.

Barack Obama 'Glossed' over these human rights issues and tried to compare the 'Hell' the Islamic women live in to 'Equal Pay' for jobs in America.

I said 'Human Rights' not womens rights.

No human should have to live the way women are forced to live under Islam - this is a matter of 'Human Rights' - women are humans also.

Joel-De Oppresso Liber writes:
****I belong to a VERY Patriarchal religion. So what? No one holds a gun to the head of the women in my church. No woman is forced to be baptized into the faith, and no woman is ever threatened with death if she apostatizes.

As long as it is the CHOICE of the woman to belong to a patriarchal religion/culture, what concern is that of yours, or the govt?****

Amen, brother.

Opponents of Christianity love to pull out individual verses from the Bible in order to criticize or condemn the faith. Most times, when you read the verse in context and with an understanding of the time in which it was written, their criticisms fall flat in short order.

Ashley
So what of any value has EVER come out of Playboy Magazine? Oh...I know, people read it for the articles. Right. Sometimes it seems that no matter how we evolve as a society and how much women become respected and accomplished, it seems we haven't come very far at all. There's always a "Playboy" magazine, topless coffee shop or car wash, new series on TV with all the "professional" women hanging out of their clothes, you-name-it! We're always reminded that sex is REALLY what women are all about. The fact that Playboy Magazine would publish something like this is unfortunately, NOT a surprise to me. For the women who want to be treated like that, so be it. But for the rest of us, keep on keepin' on. Earning respect and being a person of integrity is far more important than giving substance to this Playboy trash.

Joel and That Old Tyme Religion
Again, you confirm my point. In the secular West, women can choose their religion and become part of a patriarchy if they desire. And you are right, it is none of my business. In ancient Israel, they could not. In many, if not most Islamic countries, they cannot.
And by the way, you have not told us your plans yet. Mow that the surge has pacified most of Iraq, do you plan to double your marital blessing by acquiring an Iraqi war bride? You can cut her hair and nails, let her mourn a month, and start plundering, according to DT.

Joel-De Oppresso Liber
Grateful we belong to the same church, which honors BOTH the sons and daughters of a Heavenly Father.

Seems like the ol' timey rules really are the way to happiness here and in the eternities.

RGeek-P4254-CFriar-BDog74-Others
2 groups that Liberal Girlyman Cowards are willing to fight, unborn children and women.

A True Feminist
Ashley, you and Michelle Malkin are good examples of a true feminist. I have never considered the likes of Playboy to be empowering to women, but in fact, degrading. Liberals use popular songs and movies perpetuate this stereotype of a 'feminist'. I abhor the movie "Pretty Woman" for this very reason.

Standshisground (#74)has it exactly right. The libs want to justify their own hedonism.

BULLDOG74 MA

.....2009 SCREEN PLAY ...

...Secretary seduces her boss and gets pregnant ...

...Boss wants to get married but girl says she needs her space and decides to raise the child as a single parent ...

...Girl moves in with her girlfriend and they develop feelings for each other ...

...Boss decides he wants to be a part of the baby's life so the girls let him move in with them ...

...Final scene has the threesome holding hands as they push the baby stroller to the park ...fade out to happy upbeat music ...

...SUGGESTED TITLES ..."AND BABY MAKE THREE" ... "THREE'S COMPANY AND A BABY" ..."BRINGING UP BABY TIMES THREE" .....COLOSSUS

Personalities aside
this is really a Constitutional issue. Kelly works at a for profit news network. Playboy is a for profit {not so much} magazine. Individuals buy Playboy and people watch Fox News. The article was pulled before I could read all of it, but the part I read and the video of Michelle Malkin as a cheerleader was enough for me. However, disgusting as it was, I doubt that readers or viewers will change their mindset regarding women as a result of being exposed to such ideas. The Constitution prohibits Congress from abridging free speech. This is not limited to speech I do or do not like. No one is forced to watch Megyn Kelly or read Playboy so, if it doesn't entertain you, ignore them.

Retired Geek
The similarities in what you posted and my own life and marriage are uncanny. Nice to know I wasn't just lucky, lol.

I wish you and your wife continuous health and love.

Peace brother!

Georgetwin
Too bad they aren't as willing to fight the groups that actually want to do us harm. But that is the characteristic of a bully, you only pick on those who can't defend themselves. I guess it has something to do with trying to make up for "shortcomings" in other areas.

Retired Geek
I forgot to add;
recently a friend posted this on my Facebook page:
"I love how the two of you love each other"
I found it to be one of the nicest compliments ever.

secularsquare
You've conveniently overlooked the fact that the whole notion of chivalry, which treats women much better than any liberal notion today, comes from Christian belief, which shaped the philosophy and practices in Western Europe.

Christianity was revolutionary in the way it viewed and treated women.

Yes, Christianity is patriarchal, but it views women and wives as people worthy of great respect and love.

Christian men are to love their wives as Christ loves the church.

Why don't you try reading the New Testament in its entirety, rather than trying to cherry pick sentences?

I read every post
And happy to find sanity still prevails with knowing good and evil.

No matter what the subject is, be it America, women, rights or race the left has chosen their enemies.

They "love" America, but ...........
They are for protecting individuals rights, but........
They respect women, but......
They believe race does not matter, but........

The only liberty a "liberal" knows is the liberty from righteousness.

Anything that brings the real happiness in life is their enemy, as they pursue the bondage of all unrighteousness.

I intentionally frame it with the old way the world of decent men and women learned and passed it along to their children.

There can be no fellowship between the two no more than day has with night.

Natures God has drawn the line and every human being can only choose which side he follows. Right or wrong.

The real hate all across America comes from the people who identify themselves as "liberal" and have warped their own minds with that lie.

They are far from liberal.

Now the "liberal" are against rape, but....

These people are cursed of God Himself

baseballdoc at 10:44 am
Wow!

I think you've just brainstormed a blockbuster (or the next hit NBC sitcom).

If you could just ditch your principles and didn't mind hanging out with the scum of the Earth, you could probably make it big as a Hollywood scriptwriter.

Millimil
I don't think you have to worry about going to bed with Michelle's racist behind -- the Secret Service is not going to allow you anywhere near her.

Well, I see we finally have one!
At last, a troll showed up but, instead of defending the Playboy list he makes an ad hominem attack on Ashley. How typical of a liberal. When you can't defend something and keep a straight face doing it, just attack the writer of the article. Do you have anything of substance to tell us, Millimil?

I love rednecks
May be the only people in America who do not take themselves more serious than they should.

What a redneck tells about himself for a laugh and is mostly humor, its actually true about a "liberal".

Replacing the word redneck with the world liberal in redneck jokes no longer would be humor, but truth.


Joel and That Old Tyme Religion
I believe the term "all the spoil thereof" refers to everything itemized in the passage that preceded it. It is clearer in modern language translations. And Hebrew warriors had enough common sense to know not to eat their female booty.
I apologize for the harsh comment of the last post. I typed it with my tongue in my cheek, not with my teeth bared.It was to suggest a possible logical conclusion to the Dt. 21 passage, which you have dropped.
I am not an athiest. But I guess I am an infidel in that I am not faithful to any revealed religion. Please do't despise me.
And I partially agree with Friar. Christianity has OVER TIME raised the status of women more that any other religion. But I am sure much of Chivalry came through common sense reflection albeit, within the Christian world view; it did not come from exlicit statements in Scripture. But that is only a guess on my part. I know little next to nothing about the teachings of chivalry; but I know the bible

FIVE PLUS
AMEN! With liberals it's, "Think as I think; don't say/do as I say/do." I wish somebody would plaster this article all over the place. Then again, Ashley might become a target for liberal rape. Isn't liberal hypocrisy enough? They're raping all our minds and now our conservative women. What next? Don't bend over in the shower men?

Joel and That Old Tyme Relgion
I apologize again. I accused you of a drop on Dt. 21:10-14. You did offer a good reply. But the passage also says if the warrior is displeased with his war bride, he can release her to "whither she will." That sort of brings it back to square one.

I must go to work now to help in my small way to fill the coffers of the US Treasury department. I will look for additional posts from you. I enjoyed engaging with you. Again, accept my apologies for excessive harshness. I will try in the future to keep to the issues. That's what TH is about.

Redneck joke, becomes "liberal" truth
You can know you are a "liberal" if you been married 4 times and still have the same mother-in-law

Liberals
showing who they really are. Evolved pond scum.

Publius4254
You said it, and Michelle Malkin's a prime example. It's a safe bet that whenver she writes and whatever she writes about, the first comments will incorporate every racial slur you can imagine (yeah she's of Filipino background, but Chinese, Japanese, it's all good).

Designated drunkard

"Liberals" don't let friends drive home drunk, they get drunk and ride with them.


A "Liberal" Retaliation

A ventriloquist was making fun of "liberals" with his dummy at a bar.

Then an angry "liberal" stood up, rolled up his sleeves ,and yelled, "I resent that! I am offended!!!"

The ventriloquist started apologizing to the "liberal".

The "liberal" looked at him and said,

" You stay outta this, I''m talking to the guy on your lap!!!!

No one believes PLAYBOY is
pro women.

ANd no one reads it.

It exists for lowlife's that need pictures for masterbating purposes.

America: One Big Hog Farm
I don’t know if I can lay all the problems of moral decay, disgusting behaviors (not just the homo crowd), and ultra-vulgar verbiage and even mindset solely on the liberal low-lifes but society in general is in a downward spiral into the gutter…another blatant sign of a (uncivilized) civilization in decline. Civility and mutual respect is becoming ever less common while grossness and vulgarity are “in”. More and more people do not even interact face-to-face anymore but choose to lock themselves up in their abode and interact with a machine (PC) and they feel they have no restraints on speech and images when behind the keyboard. When they venture out they seek out others of their kind. There is NO effort to strive for improving oneself morally, spiritually, and even philosophically but rather like flies they make straight shot for the dung heap. Kids don’t have role models anymore or those models have gone underground and are invisible to the young ones. Even well meaning parents have abdicated their responsibilities to outside sources that are almost all morally tainted (if you’re a “liberal” that automatically makes you morally tainted…at best). Liberals have a chokehold on the schools and infect impressionable minds with their hogwash. You control the minds of the young and you control the future. Is it a wonder we are heading for the sewer and ever more rapid decline? Nice One America!

I've been saying this for a long time.
Liberals are trailer trash.

Look at College Professors
they spend their whole careers seeking government handouts for useless research. Trailer trash.

Black Conservative making WAVES!
Be sure to check out this black conservative writer's new book and his blog, FUNNIEST on the net! http://theblacksphere.blogspot.com/2009/06/big-black-lie-i s-finished.html OR http://www.theblacksphere.net You will find his blogs hysterical, and the buzz on the book is "best seller!" I have read the excerpts, and this book is AWESOME!

!-202-224-3121 Call today!!
Take a minute to call Washington DC to protest the appointment of Kevin Jennings by Obama to the Education Department. Jennings -a villainous slime bag--promotes and supports homosexuality and gender confusion as normative to advance his philosophy to the young-- even elementary school kids.

This is another terrible Obama choice.

Call the capitol @ 1-202-22r-3121. I called and was able to speak personally to an assistant in each office.

Parents need to keep close tabs on the curriculum being taught in the public schools with appointments like this one!! Good Grief!!

Women
"To these men, woman are nothing more than sexual playthings, to be used, enjoyed, and discarded."
That is because a lot of women are nothing more than that.

http://forums.plentyoffish.com/datingPosts6187409.aspx

What kind of woman have sex with a man who is married to someone else when there are plenty of WIDOWERS out there, let alone men who have never been married?
"Does anyone think it's just a coincidence that liberal male politicians are so vehemently pro-abortion? "

Who wants women like that to reproduce?

More On Babsballdoc's Screen Play.
(10:44 a.m. EST)

Not bad.

You've got the gay part working so that's a go.

There's also a threesome thing. Hollywood, low-life types will green light those scenes in a N.Y. minute.

But there's no abortion. They'll want that in the script.

And there's no rape scene. Oh, Oh. Not to worry. They'll add ten scenes of the boss raping the girl who ISN'T pregnant.

Finally, the two girls will kill the boss at the end. The last scene shows ONLY the girls holding hands. Then they drive away in a pick-up truck. Fade to black.

PlanoBlue
Big difference between referring to Nancy Pelosi as "wicked witch of the west" and feeding a bunch of 20-something adolescents' rape fantasies.

So what's the surprise?
Liberals are only pro "choice" when it comes to killing the unborn. In everything else there is no choice, it's their way or else.

I've known this since my college boyfriend informed me that if we got married there was no way I was going to stay home to raise the kids because "no woman wants to do that." He was absolutely shocked that I didn't agree with him - obviously I had been brainwashed. He couldn't understand that TRUE liberation meant being able to make the choice.

This article is not surprising at all because liberals are stuck in adolescence.

Awww, PlanoBlue

You sound like Kookymousemuse.

You're probably some twisted mutation of him. Who knows. Who cares.

You'll soon be heading home to the Daily Krap Kos or Moveontraitors or Huffington Post Lies, anyway.

Do me a favor. Don't hurry back.


Ahh, the ole anecdote.
I'm guessing, Ashley, that you got a mail-order diploma.

Because the first rule of rhetoric is you flunk if you use anecdotes of single entities to paint an entire class.

Your cast aspersions that Playboy speaks for anyone other than themselves is, shall we say, laughable.

But, hey, what works for the goose works for the gander, eh? Liberals can pick anecdotes about conservatives of the meanest sort and paint all conservatives just as you have right?

Town Hall must be really scraping the bottom of the barrel to be posting this drivel.

Transference
This article points out one of the most blatant and obvious facts about leftist and their goals. They care nothing for the causes they purport to support. Instead they transfer the hate and loathing they have for everything, including themselves, upon those who can think rationally and develop opinions based on actual facts.
The hatred and loathing are increased when those who are thinking for themselves are members of specified groups. You see, insane, deranged, intellectually dishonest leftist practice the sexism, racism, ageism, etc. that they claim to oppose. Therefore their greatest enemies are the blacks, Hispanics, women and yes homosexuals who think for themselves and realize that the Left cares for nothing but power.

PlanoBlue
Point taken, there are nutjobs on all sides...still, not a very creative response. Kind of on the level of "sez you" or "I know you are but what am I?"

Maybe a bit of focus will help clarify. Are you saying "hey it's all in good fun, so lighten up?"

Or, as seems more likely, are you saying "this is a case of the pot calling the kettle black?" In which case, I'm sure you can provide some instance of where Ms. Herzog or any of the posters here have ever generated a list of "10 people I'd like to assassinate."

Ashley's on point
We all know Playboy is just porn and purports to be Feminist to allow liberals to peruse the rag openly.

However, most of the MSM, Hollywood and TV also purport to be Feminist so they can trash conservative women and not be called on it.

Exactly why this article appeared in TH and not the NY Times.

Go Ashley!

SOMEWHAT SURPRISED
PLAYBOY HAS TO DO BETTER THAN THAT.DOESN'T IT SEEM TO BE CROSSING THE LINE?IT'S MEAN AND PERVERTED.SOMEBODY NEEDS SOME HELP.

PlanoBlue
well, ok, keep in mind I didn't call you any of those things (& if I did somewhere along the line I take it back).

So it's a "right" thing, then? Does that mean that if I go to a "left" website and post an opinion that goes against their grain, I can expect everyone there to treat me with civility and respect? Wow...

Back to the point, though--if I'm not mistaken, it's a federal crime to threaten the President(whoever he may be), and if you're aware of anyone at TH, columnist or poster, who's done that, you should report it to the FBI or Secret Service ASAP.

The pot/kettle award goes to....
PlanoBlue in TX
"Since you folks make ugly, demeaning statements about left-leaning women such as Nancy Pelosi, Maxine Waters, Barbara Boxer, Michelle Obama, etc., etc., etc., why do you get your panties in a wad when someone makes fun of your hate-spewing, venomous, irrelevant pond-scum spokes-snakes?"

C'mon Plano, no list of 'hate-spewing, venomous, irrelevant pond-scum spokes-snakes' would be complete without Janeane Garofalo, Rosie O'Donnell, Perez Hilton, Rachel Madcow, and Joy Behar.

Russ
"Nancy Pelosi, Maxine Waters, Barbara Boxer, Michelle Obama...Janeane Garofalo, Rosie O'Donnell, Perez Hilton, Rachel Madcow, and Joy Behar..."

No sexist-type disrespect intended, and please don't anyone take this the wrong way...but compare the above list with one that includes Michelle Malkin, Sarah Palin, Megan Kelly...apparently conservative women are not only smarter but prettier as well.

Hypocracy
To me the feminists lost all credibility when they took off after Clarence Thomas with all guns blazing while Bill Clinton got a pass on everything.

Sexual harrassment is wrong no matter who does it: male or female, Democrat or Republican, conservative or liberal. So feminists and liberals reveal their true colors that they only approve of harrassment if it advances their political agenda.

If you are someone like Sarah Palin or Carrie Prejean no need to apply. Don't call us, we'll call you. And people wonder why so many of us conservatives are angry and frustrated these days.

Playboy is for teenagers
and men who are of adult age but lack maturity. To say it represents a liberal mindset is the same as saying all conservatives are as dumb as Bush is. Rape is not a joke, and they were wrong to couch it as such.

Note to "Joycey" Anyone who calls themself "Joycey" IS "trailer trash." How moronic and ignorant do you have to be to make a cheeseball comment like that? Don't you have any class at all? Did you go to school past 6th grade? You can typecast millions of people that you've never met? Hmmm-- you remind me of someone! That's right -- The "Islamo-facists" and the Taliban -- they also hate people who they have never met and see no difference at all between one non-Muslim and another. Just like you -- they hate people who are different from them. Good choice of a role model there, "JOYCEY!"

What I've been saying for a while.
Liberal men, by and large, are NOT pro-WOMAN; they're pro-HEDONISM.


That sums it up best. I first noticed this with the way the Democrats and liberal media treated Hillary Clinton. Not that I'm a defender of her policies but did you notice as soon as she sat down and made room for the man she was the most popular Democrat?

What was allowed to happen to Sarah Palin was just a disgrace. Sarah, to me, is the epitome of feminism. Yet somehow the media was allowed to turn her into a joke. Could you imagine if all the sexist jokes and barbs directed at Sarah Palin were thrown at Obama with a racial equivalent?

How the Republican party is losing the PR battle with women and feminism is a mystery to me.

PlanoBlue in TX
"Bulldog 74
Thanks for the advice, but I imagine the FBI and Secret Service closely monitor this and all other right-wing web-sites............"

This is no longer news. This administration treats Muslim terrorists as a 'law enforcement issue' and their acts as 'man caused disasters'. Our returning vets, however, are closely monitored as potential terrorists. Our new Justice Department drops cases they've already won because the perps were in the Black Panthers and not the KKK. Conservative sites are monitored for potential abuse, but left wing groups like ACORN get gov't funding. Conservative radio gets targeted, and NPR, again, gets gov't funding. This administration's war on the right is no secret. In the state next to yours, a man gets detained for having a 'Don't tread on me' bumper sticker. You're really OK with this?

Liberals and Sexist Pigs
The writers and readers of Playboy and it's ilk are cretins, just bottom feeders. Unfortunately this mindset is beginning to control the American Society.

When you couple these lowlifes with the Obama liberal frantic fringe left wing we do need a regime change. Perhaps we can follow the example of the EU and throw the Socialists out in 2010.

Hey, they understand the concept of spoils of war. Like Obama said, I win you lose. So when we take back the government they will completely understand us gutting their social welfare programs. Oh, and bringing to trial Princess Pelosi and her crowd.

We have started sporting a new bumper sticker "Silence is surrender" along with "Don't tread on Me".

Censorship and Debate
What should be done to Playboy is what liberals try to do to conservatives. In a word: CENSORSHIP. They can't logically win any debate with a conservative so they try to shut them up.
Playboy on the other hand is free to spew pro-rape articles and should be censored. Unfortunately, our society has no more moral boundaries. How can we censor something like pro-rape articles in an "anything goes" society?
Armageddon, here we come!

Brought to you by...
the people (hedonist/leftists) that brought you:

*Playboy/Hefner is the father of all pornography in the United States. His publication is for masturbators -- and women in their view are nothing more than accessories for self-sex. Adult American males are considered nothing more than teenage boys that need Viagra and statins: they are expected to consume pornography, go to strip clubs, and scientific marketers (i.e., the people that bring you beer ads) have discerned them to be so.

* Pornography in every home (that has cable television) in the guise of "adult programming". Shoving their once illicit product down the throats of all Americans (i.e., ignore the liberal 'logic', which would likely be along the lines of, 'well, if you don't like pornography, don't watch TV' -- or maybe something about a 'V chip', as if even under-educated American children can't circumvent the simplistic 'security' provided).

* Violent rape fantasies against opponents (read: non leftist women) are not really a stretch when one considers these people embrace and practice Goebbel's 'Big Lie" approach to propaganda, and the dehumanization and anti-Christ lifestyles they practice led to acts (by Western European persons) such as smashing Jewish infant's skulls against wall, rape, and things like having local citizens rounded up, walked into a ditch...and shot (referring to 3rd Reich/Stalinist Russian history).

The will be no hue and cry against this awful and evil material by the MSM. There will be more TV shows featuring seductress/sl*u*t women that emanate from this quarter.

Will there be one righteous man left when God comes around to ask...??

Great Job!
Great job bringing this up to readers and giving us just more data on these pinhead hypocrites.

Re: Pigs
Ashley, so true, and thanks for telling it like it is.

I grew up on a farm and I am fairly familiar with pigs. They can be pretty smelly but their behavior is generally better than that which some of these people are practicing.

Luc
You said, "How the Republican party is losing the PR battle with women and feminism is a mystery to me".

Apparently the same way the GOP is losing the PR battle with blacks regarding which party's philosophy is better for their interests: because when it comes to the ability to be unabashed and shameless liars, the Democratic Party is a bunch of accomplished pros in this realm.

PLAYBOY IS TOO TAME FOR PLANO BLUE

.....HUSTLER is probably better suited to your puerile tastes ...now take your copy and get back in the bathroom where you belong .....COLOSSUS

Two Ways to Freedom
There are two ways to have freedom: You either grant equal freedom to everyone or you take it all for yourself.

Liberals want to take it all for themselves. They want to prevent women and minorities from thinking because they might realize that the liberal view is actually harmful to them. Feminism isn't granting women the right to do what they may wish; it is a way to force women to do as the liberal males think they should do. It is the same for all minorities: the liberal male knows what is best for them and therefore the minorities should shut up and do what the liberal male tells them to do. In both cases, if they are told to strip and bend over, then that is what they are supposed to do. Do you think Hefner "liberates" women by having sex with so many of them? Or does he actually encourage them to make slaves of themselves?

As someone who started reading Playboy just after it began to come out, I can tell you that I have no interest in the magazine now. In the beginning the women were all "girls-next-door" who seldom were interested in free sex. Now the magazine almost entirely is about hopeful movie starlets who will literally do anything to get a chance of a role. That is freeing them? It isn't even worth reading any more.

LOL
I love all the posts from cranky old men who claim they don't read Playboy, then proceed to describe its contents in great detail!

Sorry, repressed whiners, "hate-f-ck" has nothing to do with rape. It's "I hate you, you hate me, but we're sexually attracted, so let's f-ck." Of course wingnuts wouldn't understand that, since it involves putting women's sexuality on the same level as men's.

Ashley's just a tad miffed she didn't make the list, methinks!

SMOKIN Hot Ashley
Let's face it, if Ashley wasn't SMOKIN hot...and she truly is from the hundreds of pictures she posts on Facebook...would anyone really care what she or any other 22 year old thinks about anything? If she didn't speak, she would be perfect arm candy on a date. No doubt, she'll make a great ex-wife some day.

Make Hate, Not War
the Hate F**k: from the same people who brought you the "baby mama".

There have always been people who want to degrade their sex partners. We used to call them "degenerates". Times change.

Sorry, Ivy
It means exactly what Herzog wrote. You know it, we know, and all of your left-wingnut defense won't change that.

Playboy for the Troops
On another note, I am currently deployed overseas. If you don't mind, me and the guys would greatly appreciate you would bundling those Playboys with the terribly offensive pictures of beautiful naked women, and send them here! We are all very anxious to read the article ;-)

Mouth Shut?
If this is typical of what you say, I'd go on a date with you if you were ugly as sin, provided you didn't shut up except during the movie...and then only if the movie's good. It pains me to see today's misogyny and racism portrayed as tolerance. If somebody to prove to me that he's 'tolerant,' he needs to demonstrate the ability to stop classifying opinions as being in favor of a given race or gender. I'm sick of successful, black conservatives being called house slaves and Uncle Toms and I'm sick of abortion, promiscuity, and discriminatory pay practices being called 'women's issues.'

roadmaster 8:19 AM EST
Girls and young women who read Cosmo aren't any better off than young men who read Playboy.

Unfortunately, Ashley
You speak the truth to an extent, but it goes much deeper than that. This isn't just about "rape", it's screaming hypocrisy; something the liberal left has taken years to perfect. It's the "do-as-I-say-not-as-I-do" mentality. It's the "we-want-a-bipartisan-approach-as-long-as-you-conform-to-our-beliefs" mentality. BO does it best when he asks for both parties to come to the table to talk, yet when we all sit down, he proceeds to tell us how he will do things. IMO, the Democratic left is the best organized crime group in the world. It's called extortion, and it's hidden in magazine articles such as the one you are blogging about.

This article is no different than the Prop 8 protests going on in SanFran. It just gives lots of irresponsible people the opportunity to "express themselves" with an outlet they like to call "art" and "freedom of expression."

Pro-Hot Naked Women
I think you are all missing the point. Anything that involves incredible hot, birthday suite naked women, how bad can it be. It's like objecting to Hooters. Let's see...beautiful, scantily clad women, cold beer and great food. Perfect! All my conservative bretheren, relax, have a cold beer, open and Playboy and just chill the heck out. Americans don't want to be lectured by whiney conservatives any more than they do whiney liberals. Put Ashley in a tight white shirt and orange shorts and I'll be her biggest fan. Cheers!

Joel-De Oppresso liber
Women should not be helpless! There should be weapons training for ALL, even children. My dad taught me firearms safety, and gave me a .22 revolver and a .22 rifle when I was around 8 years old. Joel

========================

I am female, trained and have a CWP. ALL of my female conservative neighbors also are trained and have a CWP (I love FL gun laws).

You are right, my kids have had BB guns since they were 5, .22 at 7, and we really love to shoot sporting clays together. The result? Guns aren't mysterious to them, they are just normal every day tools they know how to use.

Teaching kids is the best way to protect them.


Hmmm...
Seems to me liberals are constantly displaying their immaturity and hypocrisy.

Many of them love to come here and try to gather attention to themselves by belittling those who hold conservative opinions. They claim that they are simply adding to the dialogue by contributing opposing opinions, but most of what they write is filled with insults and degrading comments directed toward conservatives.

The ironic bit is that liberals are always crying about free speech, but it's only on conservative websites like Townhall where you get an example of free speech in practice. Townhall allows any poster with any opinion so long as you don't get obscene or make personal attacks. You won't find that level of freedom on any major liberal site. Daily KOS, Democrat Underground, Huffington Post, they all delete and ban conservative comments and posters.

Gotta love their dedicated hypocrisy.

Really?
Yeah, what a piece of deft political writing to uncover that Playboy magazine publish a misogynist article. Bravo! Town Hall really needs to better on quality control.

Liberal
Your last response is exactly the reason why the conservative base knows better that to rethink its morals. It's these exact moral principles that have made societies successful for millenia. Societies and nations fall when they rescind those very principles.

Would it be wise for me to remove my breastplate while I took a breath and drank from my canteen during a break? Only receive an arrow in my back from the archer behind the tree. The moment you let your guard down you become careless. That's usually when tragedy strikes.

you cannot be seriously suggesting
that conservative men don't read playboy and don't objectify women.

Jilliannea
Just because SOME conservative men read it doesn't mean ALL conservative men read it. That is very shortsighted.

Believe it or not, there are some genuinely good people in this world doing their best to avoid things like that.

Derek
You are correct. Throughout history, societies have often failed, great nations crumbled, not because of poor leadership, changing world politics or economic collapse, it's because men like to look at naked boobies.

Lie much, Curtal Friar?

I applaud Townhall's policy, which is why I frequently come here, as I do HuffPo, so I know you're lying when you claim HuffPo's policy is to "delete and ban conservative comments and posters." I have no idea if that's the case with the others you mention because I never go to them, but your false statement about HuffPo shows the truth doesn't really matter to you.

Media Matters is another lib site which always has a heapin' helpin' of rightwing comments. The only site I'm aware of, where partisans on both sides routinely delete oppositional comments, is youtube.

Speaking of Top Ten
I think the appropriate response would be a "Top Ten Anti-Personnel Rounds for Fatally Discouraging a Hate F*cker".

The truly loathsome article in question merits no further analysis or response.

derekr44 - AZ
Morally corrupt male liberals can't understand the concept of virtuous moral males.

They think "everyone" does what they do. And if you don't, then you must be a basement dwelling cat lover, who lives with his Mother.

Then they spew how tolerant they are.





This columnist
is attacking liberals for being mysoginistic?

And this is coming from the same people who worship and adore the man who coined the word "feminazi"?

How pathetic are you?

Say., Ashley,
Have you bothered to read the woman-bashing conservative posts about Hillary and Sotomayor on this very website?

Oh, that's right, conservative woman-bashing is Godly.

Ashley, Ashley
"Two years ago, some slobbering loser responded to one of my Townhall columns by writing, “I don't know Ashley Herzog. Never heard of her before today. I would, however, go so far to say that I would date her if she promised not to say anything.” "

That's the best you can do? A malcontent, rude poster sent you an e-mail TWO YEARS AGO and your using it as proof that liberals hate women?

You are one angry, ranting misanthrope. You're right at home on Town Hall, no?


mmeed
"The truly loathsome article in question merits no further analysis or response. "

I also found this article loathsome. And you're right, it doesn't deserve a response.

My bad.

Huh?
New In Town:

I must have missed the Hillary-bashing articles in here that advocated rape, but I know since it would be moronic to suggest equivalence without proof you will provide references.

On the other thing:

"And this is coming from the same people who worship and adore the man who coined the word "feminazi"?"

Truly surprised you didn't tie in the bombing of Dresden or the Bataan Death March If you are going to misrepresent and conflate two wildly unrelated things, go big son!


Only If She's Liberal
Conservative women don't count . Only if she is liberal does she get any respect from the left. Just see Sarah Palin.

Ivy
I'd hazard the notion that putting womens' sexuality on a par with mens' hasn't resulted in any lessening of the awful terms used to describe women who are 'easy' or comfortable with their sexuality. From junior high to old age, those words are still very much in evidence. Pathetic males are threatened by women who refuse to accept the male notion that if she is at home with her sexuality, she is therefore a wh0re. These men want it all ways, and this is part of the Playboy mindset: abandonment does not become a respectable woman, but is fine for a wh0re. Grow up, already!

I'd also argue that depression amongst college women is at the level it is precisely because they've bought into the libertine notion that womens' sexuality is on a par with mens', only to find that biology does matter after all, and being used like a tissue is not all it's cracked up to be.


mmeed
Whenever a columnist or a poster, for that matter, writes a screed that is so foaming-at-the-mouth angry, so one-sided, so obsessively hate-ridden, it is always clear to me that their issues go much deeper than anything a liberal says or does. This is pretty much Psychology 101.

And it's not just the rage-porn aspect - another TH columnist who constantly tries to "talk tough" while reminding everyone that he loves his guns and his cigars to the point of physicality is clearly worried about his manliness.

I know that subtlety isn't exactly a considered to be a strength among conservatives, but in writing it merits an "F".

As for misogyny, just go into the TH archives or your Google search and type the word "Hillary Clinton", or "Sotomeyer"; you will find enough female bashing to set your hair on fire.


mmeed
As for equivalency, this columnist calls liberals "sexist pigs" )another subtle touch and uses example after example to make her point.

I was just doing the same.

Rowly
There are plenty of conservative women that liberals like and admire.

The trailersons get made fun of because of their ineptness and Lil Abner/Daisy Mae personas. It has nothing to do with gender, any more than jokes about Bush were based on the fact that he was a man.

He was a man, right?

New In Town
You may be new in town,but your mantra is old. You are simply an old dog trying to do new tricks....badly too.

Bye now
New In Town:

Since you didn't address any if my points, we don't have anything else to talk about, and this isn't exactly breaking my heart.

To all the others: Apologies for responding to what is obviously negative attention-seeking on NIT's part. When, when, when will I ever learn? :)

ashley and mmeek
should look up the definition for rape on http://www.Dictionary.com. Much as she would like to think so, rape is not the same thing as hate-f---ing no matter how hard you are trying to make a point.

In fact, some married people do it all the time.

mmeed
I addressed every single one of your points.

Maybe I was too subtle.

Bill Clinton has been doing Hate F*cks
for decades according to the 20+ women he sexually assaulted or raped while Governor. Playboy's a chip off the old block.

mmeed
"I must have missed the Hillary-bashing articles in here that advocated rape, but I know since it would be moronic to suggest equivalence without proof"

Copied from a famous right-wing blog titled "The Real Hillary":

"Using the term co-rapist to describe Hillary Clinton is indeed very appropriate."

Maybe you can mull that over while you crack pecans with your Hillary nutcracker.

You have seen those, haven't you?

One last thought
Then I'm off to have a martini and watch the boats on Puget Sound:

I still can't get over a woman who gets a rude e-mail, and then quotes it, word for word, two years later! Does she keep a copy of it beside her bed to read everynight before she goes to sleep? Did she have it executed in needlepoint for a couch cushion?

Sounds like a grievance collector to me. A particularly fragile one at that.

Some Married people Hate F*ck often?
Where do people come up with this stuff? Do Hate F*cking couples announce it? Not the sort of thing normal people do and certainly even fewer would speak to others about it.

The second Coming must be near. The one following the Rapture. I wonder if libs even get this?

Conservatives Underground
As the Founder of the National Organization of Conservative Women (NOCW), I wrote about this topic yesterday. Today, the 1st Amendment is used as a weapon for gain forcing conservatives underground. Those of us rebellious enough not to be shoved underground into anonymity do take risks of outlandish proportions. However, if we do not speak out as conservative women, what voice will our daughters have when they come of age?

Read More:

http://www.conservativewomenworking.org/opine/

Oxymoron
This whole article is an oxymoron

"Get a brain, morans!"

HERZOG
She's a hog if you ask me.As far as I'm concerned,she doesn't brlong on TH.

ASURD
This article is, herzog is a complete moran, now your trying to call my PRESIDENT a sexist. I think you need your head examined, the PRESIDENT has done nothing but try to help women. It's you stupid a@@ racist honkies who is trying to insert something totally different. You must don't have anything else to write about, and know one was against the miss universe lady but the gayes. So get over yourself.

Herzog...
provides no specifics, only generalities and assumptions.
NOW we see why she writes for TH.
Mudslinger, thou name is Ashley.

cha cha
WTF are morans?

Why...
...is disagreeing with the homosexual lifestyle and agenda now called "homophobia?" A phobia is a fear. I completely disagree with the practice of a homosexual lifestyle. I believe with all my heart that marriage should always be reserved for one man and one woman and I will do all that I can to make sure it stays that way. I don't feel this way about this issue because I'm afraid of homosexuals. I don't know a single homosexual of whom I am afraid. Even if you're one who believes that all resistance to the homosexual agenda is based in hate of homosexuals, you cannot correctly call it homophobia. Once again, a phobia is an overwhelming, irrational fear, not hate. The word "homophobia" is extremely overused in this discussion, and I'm quite tired of it. I don't like being called a homophobe. I'm not afraid of them.

herzog
I do believe you've hit the nail on the head. Your brash cut to the chase style of writing is very admirable. From the looks of the replies, you have obviously struck a nerve among the uneducated liberal Obama-nuts. I always check on the threads to read and laugh about all the ignorant, grammatically incorrect comments. I swear, if the president(intentional small case p) said the sky was Yellow, these idiots would go to the grave believing it.

Ivy
From urbandictionary.com:

"To have sex, especially in a rough manner, with someone who one finds physically attractive but personally loathsome."

"The act of f***ing someone you loathe, in a vicious manner, because you secretly find them attractive and hate yourself for it."

Rough and vicious manner share a lot in common with rape, if you ask me. Too bad we repressed conservatives think sex should involve respect and affection. How much we could learn from you enlightened liberals!

Playboy Magazine
Once and always an example of perpetual adolescence. The process of maturation has always been difficult, and the path of least resistance, well, we see it daily. Perpetual Adolescence is all but idolized in our culture. Example: aging rock stars. Men don't buy or "read" Playboy, Unmaturable boys do. And to quote a fellow from Red Eye, girls that "don't have the intelligence to consent" are the fodder.

the defenders
of the hate**** I think have clearly never known someone who was raped or cared that they were. Hate speech is made to be a crime, but a hate**** is a joke funny ha ha? (No double standard here, move along, move along)

Kind of misses the point
People criticized Prejean because they disagreed with what she said. It is not showing respect for her to feel that one can't respond to her because what she is just a pretty face? I actually think that the Prejean thing should not have been a serious story because no one would have cared about her except that she was a beauty queen. But it kind of gets things backwards to think that taking what she says seriously is somehow misogyny.

And trying to make Playboy the spokespeople for liberalism shows how hard one has to press to try to make this silly kind of case.

I haven't seen the issue in question, but even as described above, Herzog seems to get the Malkin relevance backwards. The point seems to be conservative women who are sexy anyway. Malkin decision to make a video in a cheerleader outfit probably had more to do with her making number one than does her breaking of stereotypes. Just a guess.

Hugh Heffner
Hugh Heffner is probably the lonliest person in the world.

Since when do the Playboy porno
perverts get to have a valid opinion on anything. The magazine is trash, thinking adolescent and serves no useful purpose for anyone. They are in the business of selling magazines and business must be bad.

Lon; strawman
You argument is an obvious strawman. The author does not state that she has a problem with Ms. Prejan's opinion being taken seriously. She has a problem with so called "tolerant" liberals calling her a sl*t [see townhall doesn't even allow it] and attempting to turn her into the anti-christ because her opinion contradicts theirs.

Of course, if liberals argued facts straight up without emotion or logical fallacies, you would never win any debate, so I don't blame you for your underhanded attempt to distort the issue.

Hugh.
Ain't it just such fun to bash Hugh while his b...h, c..t daughter runs the magazine?

How low
Playboy is just trash. It has always been rash. It now sinks even lower, run by an 80 year old pervert. Playboy has never been about anything but dressed up porn. This way the modern "progressive" can think of himself as "hip" when he is oogling Playboy instead of being seen in the local porn shop.
Yes women can be liberated as long as they think in "lock step" with Hugh Hefner

mmeed,
I can get behind that Top 10.

I'm partial to the classic .38sp -- though the lightweight snubbies commonly (and ill-advisedly), recommended for women are not fun guns and not for anyone with weak or sensitive hands.

But if a given woman's hands are up to the shock of shooting them they're an excellent blend of power and concealability. The Taurus 85 suits my small hands and short fingers a little better than the rightfully renowned Smith and Wesson snubbies.

9mm and .45 caliber are much more comfortable to shoot -- for the woman who has a large enough frame to conceal them.

And, of course, there is the .380 -- a bit light on power, but the perfect solution for the arthritic and the recoil sensitive (at least in a steel gun rather than a polymer one). I've borrowed a friend's Colt Mustang at the range and found it as easy on the hands as shooting .22 from my big, heavy Ruger Mark III Hunter.

I certainly hope that the conservative ladies on Playboy's list are prepared and ready to give anyone who tries Playboy's suggestion a nice dose of one of the above.

lynn
" Some Married people Hate F*ck often?
Where do people come up with this stuff? Do Hate F*cking couples announce it? Not the sort of thing normal people do and certainly even fewer would speak to others about it.


u contraire, Lynne. It sound as if you are not not close enough to your friends to elicit some kind of honest, deep sharing. Women who hav circles of other women they trustt agsolutelu havd, in fact, th space to speak very openly.

This has nothing to do with "normality', -- except to say that true normalisty is deifferent than those Norman Rodkwell paintings that you keep framed in your living room.

Andrea,
Nicely put.

Obviously no woman in her right mind would consent to give the most intimate gift of her body and soul to a man she hates.

And a woman who is not in her right mind cannot give true consent by virtue of her mental incapability.

Non-consensual sex is rape. (Hey, the left-libs on the college campuses call it rape if a girl consented at the time but regretted it in the morning).

So even if you accept the supposed definition the "hate f-ck" is rape.

And the cure for rape is lead -- in the doses suggested above.

Lon is right
the notion that liberals somehow protect and defend the whole playboy thing is absurd and ridicualous. It is like liberals describing an entire right-wing ideology based on the writings and ruminations of, say, Mussolini or

Absolutely!!!
Great article and right on point, although there are those who may disagree -- erroneously I might add. It seems to me that if the left doesn't want to hear such an answer in Miss CA's situation, then why ask the question. As for Playboy, they've been exploiting women since their inception, so their credibility factor is "0".

Andrea says
"Rough and vicious manner share a lot in common with rape, if you ask me."

So the participants are raping EACH OTHER? A logical impossibility! People like kinky sex; I always thought that included conservatives.

"Too bad we repressed conservatives think sex should involve respect and affection." And divorce. Lots of divorce. Respectful, affectionate, Christ-sanctioned (hey, wait a...) divorce.

Proven Solution 4 Conservative Women
There is one solution I have found that works every time when confronted with vile liberal men. (There are those like Hal D. who dialogue respectfully, and then those when you outwit they pull out the vulgar insults). Tell these vile men you will pray for them. Poof, you never hear from them again. Then do pray for them because realize just how depraved and lost they are.

Most recently, I was debating socialism with one arguing my grandfather did not get 3rd degree burns in WWII nor my father shot down in Vietnam for "Socialism", they fought for Freedom. That truth was too much for this vile man to take so he took a juvenile route and called me a 'nutbar'. Not stopping there, he ordered me back to my knitting circle. When I told him I'd love to learn how to knit and when I do, I'll make him a scarf for winter and slip a prayer inside for him. Never heard from him again.

Remain witty, articulate and keep your faith.

National Org. of Conservative Women

http://conservativewomenworking.org

Lon
Your posts always miss the point.

Miss Prejean was vilified, not criticized. And she was denied the crown because of a hate-filled, intolerant homosexual who shouldn't have been a judge in the first place.

As to your moronic comment about Playboy, they are the ones who make themselves the spokes-people for liberalism. If any publication tried to do the same type of article with liberal women as the subjects, you dim-witted libs would howl and moan and have fits. And if any beauty pageant contestant who answered the same question with a liberal response, and was denied the crown because of some conservative judge, you would've screamed bloody murder.

Your hypocrisy, Lon, is breathtakingly transparent.


Ivy
Those definitions said nothing about consensual sex; they seemed pretty one-sided to me. But, you're the expert...

Here's a novel idea: Why don't you ask those ten conservative women if they would have sex, kinky or otherwise, with men they LOATHE instead of assuming they would?

ANNEFAN, SPOT ON, YOU GOT IT RIGHT!
SEXIST AND INSECURE MEN ARE FEARFUL OF A STRONG, INTELLIGENT WOMAN HAVING POWER OVER THEM. JEALOUS FEMALES AND/OR THOSE RAISED TO BELIEVE A WOMANS PLACE IS TO SUPPORT THE MAN, EVEN THOUGH THE FEMALE IS THE BETTER MUSICIAN. THEY WANT HER TO PLAY 'SECOND FIDDLER' TO THE MAN! lOOK WHAT HAPPENED TO THE 'BREATH OF FRESH AIR' lADY SARAH PALIN. EVEN THE LIB/DEMS TRASHED HILLARY DURING HER CAMPAIGN. LETS FACE IT, RACE TRUMPS GENDER. BLACKS ARE LOYAL TO THEIR OWN, WHY AREN'T THE GALS? WHEN SHE DESERVES THEIR SUPPORT, OF COURSE.

Ivy
uses the typical liberal logical fallacy used in all arguments (ignoratio elenchi). An argument given in reply that does not address the original issue, only meant to divert attention away from it.

According to liberals, we must allow same-sex marriage because of the divorce rate of traditional marriage. This makes no sense whatsoever and is becoming a very old argument.

I don't believe same-sex marriage should be allowed, nor do I believe divorce is an answer 100% of the time.

Liberal Sexist Pigs
"Malkin enrages racist liberal woman-haters because she doesn’t conform to their porno fantasies of a passive, compliant Asian woman. As she discussed at length in her 2005 book Unhinged, she is often subjected to racialized sexual denigration from liberals who call her a “mail-order bride” and a “whore” for the Republican Party."

My lovely, intelligent, independent, freedom-loving wife is Asian, and has experienced the same slanders Michelle talks about in Unhinged. From the beginning (1993) I have always encouraged her to be her own person and follow her own aspirations, which she has, easily outshining us natives here in both school and work. I have had to have very private conversations with more than a few Liberal Sexist Pigs, after having bore witness to their slanderous slop. The "left" needs to take a look at the degradation of decent societal cultural norms that preceded the fall of many a culture/society. I can't understand how they can't see this. My theory is they are blinded by the "me-society" syndrome - instant self-gratification, hiding behind the American Constitution.

Woody

Libertines not liberals
So-called liberal men are usually just libertines trying to rationalize their bigotry.

William in Va. Truer words never spoken!
Your words of wisdom need credit. I'm a gutsy, strong independent woman, who frankly resents the cowarding, apathetic female and you can imagine what I think of the 'anti'women males, Ha! Ex Democrat

Even more offensive...
...than what you related, i.e. 'liberals who call her a “mail-order bride” and a “whore” for the Republican Party', was their calling her an "lbfm". If someone called my wife that and I was around, I would consider such to be "fighting words", and immediately go into berserker mode on his sorry butt!

To New In Town, Ivy, and
several other late-coming trolls that had nothing to offer:

The reason why conservatives believe that most, if not all, liberals think that the Playboy article was okay has been proven by YOUR FAILURE TO EVEN CONDEMN IT FOR WHAT IT WAS: MISOGYNY AT ITS WORST.

Instead, you twist words so that hatef**k becomes "nothing like rape". The fact that it has violent undertones means nothing, is that right?

How about looking at it this way: is there any way in hell that any of those 10 women would even consent to have sex with the author of that article under any circumstances?

Probably not, therefore the sex would NOT be consensual and therefore by definition it would be RAPE.

Or how about looking at it this way:

If a conservative columnist at a conservative magazine made a list of 10 liberal women he would like to hatef**k, would you feel the same way? Would that be okay?

And be honest now.

You see, if I saw that a conservative did the same thing - if any of us did - we would CONDEMN IT IMMEDIATELY. And quite frankly, I don't think it would ever be published in any respectable conservative paper or mag anyway.

That is the difference between YOU and US. Just because we CAN (because of the 1st amendment) doesn't mean we SHOULD.

Chicken Little
The libs are always the first to point out when there is racism, bigotry and sexism. This is because since that is the way that they themselves think, they put that on so many others who in fact to not think that way.

Perez Hilton is a bully just like most liberals I know. If you can't win an argument call your opponent names. Mention what is wrong with the thinking rather than giving a valid point as to why your thinking is correct.

I went to NOW online to see if they would post anything about the List and they had not. But there was plenty there either asking for contributions or letting women know they they have rights over their bodies. Women have not had rights to our bodies since the 60's. As a single woman abstaining from sex until I get married I can't find a man who will date me more than 3 times because, even the christians, expect to be able to have sex. This is freedom?

All in all these sexist attitudes do boil down to fear and selfishness. When they are faced with a beautiful, eloquent woman who chooses to have a baby with Downs Syndrom they call her stupid. Why is she stupid? Because she chose the not easy road in this take the easy road society. So let's make it more common so that they can't keep making excuses for their unwise choices. Shove it in their face not with words but with the success of our actions.

Hate Mongering
All Liberals hate everything and everybody that dosent act the same as them, they only hang out with other Liberals, so they only have one view point on everything. Liberals feel that all conservative women must be retarded, because their cause is the only enlightened one. When they encounter a coservative articulate intelligent woman, such as governor Sarah Palin or miss california they immediately start calling names out of panic because they are not allowed to hit, which is their first instinct.
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