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Monday, October 13, 2008
Amanda Carpenter :: Townhall.com Columnist
ACORN's Rap Sheet
by Amanda Carpenter
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The Association of Community Organizers for Reform Now has compiled an irrefutable record of voter registration fraud in recent elections.

The non-profit is accused of submitting fraudulent voter registration applications in 13 states this election cycle. Seven of those states have already launched investigations into ACORN’s activities.

During the 2006 election cycle, ACORN submitted false applications to election officials in Missouri, New Mexico, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Washington.

Several of their organizers have already landed in jail. Seven ACORN workers were indicted for voter registration fraud in Washington last year for submitting nearly 3,400 fraudulent forms in King and Pierce County, which included applications for “Veronica Mars” and the deceased Army Ranger and NFL player Pat Tillman. Three of the workers eventually pled guilty and ACORN was ordered to pay a $25,000 settlement fee.

After the 2004 election, two former ACORN workers were convicted of perjury for submitting false voter registration forms in Denver, Colorado.

But ACORN continues to submit fraudulent voter applications.

A prosecutor in Ohio’s Cuyahoga County interviewed two witnesses who were harassed by ACORN officials on Monday. A 19-year old named Freddie Johnson said ACORN officials convinced him to register to vote 73 times. “They would come up with a sob story when they needed a signature,” Johnson told the Cuyahoga County Board of Elections Monday.

Christopher Buckley, a Domino’s pizza delivery driver, also witnessed to the board. He said ACORN workers told him, “I could help them hold onto a job” by signing multiple registration forms.

State and federal authorities in Nevada announced they were launching a task force to investigate voter registration fraud in Clark County last week. Registrar of Voters Larry Lomax told the Las Vegas Review-Journal he believes ACORN has submitted somewhere between 2,000-3,000 fraudulent applications a week, some of which have included forms for the entire starting line-up of the Dallas Cowboys.

Officials in Bridgeport, Connecticut say ACORN has cost their county thousands of dollars in overtime because their workers have been forced to sift through ACORN’s false applications. ACORN fired a worker in Seminole County, Florida after the group admitted filing fraudulent registration forms.

Lake County, Indiana Election Board Director Sally LaSota said she received nearly 2,000 new voter applications from ACORN workers that 1,100 of which were “no good” and appeared to be taken directly from a telephone book. Election officials have reported similar activity in Michigan. Oakland County officials have discovered more than 33,000 duplicate voter registration applications, mostly submitted by ACORN workers.

The FBI is making plans to investigate in Kansas City, Missouri after a Jackson County election worker identified nearly 300 suspicious voter registration forms submitted by ACORN.

ACORN’s fraud extends to their highest offices of well. The New York Times reported ACORN hid the $1 million embezzlement by ACORN founder Wade Rathke’s brother Dave Rathke. Founder Rathke told the New York Times the embezzlement was kept a secret because he did not want conservatives to use the crime as a “weapon” against ACORN.

ACORN receives federal funds each year from the Federal Housing Finance Agency through various grants.

Republican Sen. John Ensign (Nev.) wrote a letter to FHA last week calling on the agency to suspend funding for ACORN due to “recent news tying ACORN with voter fraud.”

The letter was signed by Republican Sens. Michael Enzi (Wyo.), David Vitter (La.), Pat Roberts (Kans), Tom Coburn (Okla), John Thune (S.D.) and Jim DeMint (S.C).

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This should just be darn enough!
No more of my tax money to ACORN! I am writing to my Senators and Congressman to tell them what I think about my money funding ACORN and I suggest others do the same! The voice of the people made a difference to the representatives on the initial bailout and it can make a difference now...we have to stop being silent on issues that matter!

Makes Ya Think
And these are just the ones they're catchin. Makes ya wonder how many apps get by undetected.

Children of the ACORN
If you think ACORN is bad, just wait until Public Allies put a force the size of the US military in the streets. Get ready to be shoved and bullied around.

ACORN....
Get out... they're corrupt....

Headline should be:
ACORN signs up 7 year old to vote under quota pressure

http://www.nypost.com/seven/10122008/news/politics/7_yr__ol d_gets_an_acorn_vote_133207.htm

Well well well the sh!t is hitting the fan

Still my NEW pet peeve with Obama is his "cousin" Genocidal Socialist Raila ODinga in Kenya Burning women and children in churches which Obama spent taxpayers money to go visit and show his support and get tips on his "Citizens Army" from:

See the footage here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cEZkKZkwnU

Remember both.. OBAMA"S AND OSAMA"S FRIENDS BOMBED THE PENTAGON!
MCCAIN PALIN 08

Makes you wonder how
Many actually voted? Doesn't it? I mean how many of those fraudulent registered voters actually voted?

Who turned them in?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tom-matzzie/how-mccain-will-s teal-the_b_133989.html

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/223436.php




THANKS AMANDA !
YOU WONT SEE KATIE COURIC TALKING ABOUT THIS,OR TOM BROKAW.ANY REAL NEWS LIKE THIS THEY HIDE!

ACORN
How much longer and how much more evidence will it take to make this a viable story for the MSM?

This is so ridiculous that this thuggish crowd can steal an election right from under our noses. They don't even try to deny it.

Even more ridiculousis,we pay them to do it!!

ACORD is a Private Club
ACORN is a private club, if you will, just like the Sierra Club or any other group organized by individuals for a specific purpose. NONE of them should be getting any tax money! Tax money comes from all of us. I don't care if I think their purpose is good or not; it should not be supported by tax money.

Yet I understand that ACORN is to get a LOT of the bailout money as a condition by some Congressmen to sign the bill. Why?

Why no Senate Democrat signees?

Ok, it's a rhetorical question, but it does point out that, for years, the Demorats have been committing voter fraud, and it's been very effective. Cases in point:

1. Orange County, CA: 1996 Loretta Sanchez (D) unseated Bob Dornan (R) in one of the slimiest campaigns ever recorded (up to that time). Many claims of voter fraud and voter registration fraud were voiced, but fairly well ignored by the entrenched Democratic bureaucracy. Personal View: Watched new campesinos who had been in the country less than a month, taken out of the field on election day in 1996 and bused to the eleciton office - when they came back one of them claimed, proudly, that they voted in the election. There was a question from a precinct worker, but the field worker lawyer (who went with the bus) started berating the election worker amid claims of 'racism.' The guy talking to me said she then dropped her questions.

2. During that same year, two boxes full of paper votes from predominately Republic voting precincts were found floating in San Francisco Bay (yes, there were Republicans back then, Dorothy). Result- Clamps put on by the media outlets there and there was a figurative 'yawn' since this has happened before in SF.

Brown Shirts with Machetes
ACORN appears to be the proving ground for Obama's promised Citizen (Truth) Army he promises he is going to institute once he's in power. His stated aim is to make it as strong as the military, and be a balance to their power in the civilian world.

Citizen Army <> Hitlerian Brownshirts <> Gestapo

pablo:

The people registered seldom vote - but someone else does in their places. In Arkansas, ACORN used to have a bus that they loaded with people. They would drive them from voting site to voting site and hand them different voter registration cards at each site. And at the end of the day, they were paid twenty dollars or so each for their time.

There was a local story about it when they were caught. But it never got further.

Voting Irregularities
I don't understand why the federal and state governments are moving so slowly. Acorn funding should be stopped immediately, and the organizers shown the inside of a jail. This is ridiculous. We don't need all this fraud, especially just before election day. Government investigations won't conclude til after elections, so what good are they. We still have time. Throw out all those registrations and make the people re-register. Sorry for the inconvenience, but that's the price of freedom.

ACORN & Obama's Tax Plan

ACORN is seeking everyone man, woman, child, convict, illegal alien who'll sign a petition. 35 times each if they'll agree to it!

What is the "promise" to the homeless, indigent, non-productive part of society?

TAX REFUND!!

Obama's tax plan will give REFUNDS to people who DON'T PAY TAXES.

Let's call this for what it REALLY is... REPARATIONS!

END THE CHARADE NOW--SIGN THE PETITION
Join the ever increasing numbers of your fellow citizens and stop Obama's illegal run for President:

http://www.rallycongress.com/constitutional-qualification/1 244/

CALL YOUR LOCAL TALK SHOW HOST AND REMIND THEM THAT OBAMA HAS REFUSED TO RELEASE HIS BIRTH CERTIFICATE!

pablo st. cruse from MI
"Many actually voted? Doesn't it? I mean how many of those fraudulent registered voters actually voted?"

You mean they only register for the fun of it? There is no intent to vote? In Ohio there may be no way of knowing how many of ACORN's fraudulent voters actually voted in the same day early voting registration that Secretary Brunner has approved. She keeps fighting reasonable attempts at verifying eligibility. "Methinks she doth protest too much."

first no acorn money in bailout
more importantly, this is a tempest in a teapot.

if someone submits fraudulent registrations they should go to jail but,

you need an ID to vote now folks, so no matter what name they used to register, unless they have identification to back it up they will not be allowed to vote.

what you got here is a some people who got paid for how many registrations they submitted so they made up names to get the money.

but made up names have no identification to back it up so there would be no voting fraud, just registrering fraud.

jeffrey
both conservatives and liberals have proved beyond a doubt that obama was born in hawaii.

your little crusade is for naught.

Amanda
Please allow me to say, thanks for telling the "Truth". ACORN is being investigated for "Voter Registration Fraud" not "Voter Fraud". They should be investigated and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law,if guilty. This election, should not be a pact of "Lies". However, it has taken on the Character of just that. How very,very sad... Hate and Prejudice appear to be American "Hallmarks". Thank God for the YOUNG!!!

christianlib
I accept that Obama was born in Hawaii. My question is why has he not produced a certified copy of his original birth certificate? I've had to have one several times in my life.

Hillary Lost because...
A review of the Democratic primary shows that Obama won because he did so well in the caucus states. Obviously we all now know how he got all these people to show up - ACORN and their fraudulant activities. Without the caucus states Hillary would have won.

Wonder why the Hillary backers haven't figured this out yet. They still think he is great messiah.

Ricardo 's right
Ricardo said:
ACORN appears to be the proving ground for Obama's promised Citizen (Truth) Army he promises he is going to institute once he's in power. His stated aim is to make it as strong as the military, and be a balance to their power in the civilian world.

Citizen Army <> Hitlerian Brownshirts <> Gestapo

Obama's cousin,mentor and trainer ODinga

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cEZkKZkwnU

christian-lib

EXACTLY how many people are required to SHOW ID when sending in absentee ballots??

voter fraud
Most of you don't care but these facts are real. The fearmongering about voter fraud from the RCC is mostly smoke and mirrors and is, quite frankly, embarrassing.
The facts about ACORN are:
ACORN is an organization that, among other things, registers low-income people to vote. One of the ways they do this is to hire door-to-door canvassers from the neighborhoods they are working in. This sort of work is tightly regulated. So, when one of the thousands of people they give jobs to doesn't do their work right and brings back bogus or phony voter registration cards, the law REQUIRES that ACORN turn the forms in to the voter registration office. The law, rightly, doesn't want anybody throwing out voter registration forms for any reason.

But ACORN goes a step farther. They have people assigned to do quality control on all the cards--calling people on the forms after they fill them out. When they find bad information on the cards they attach a cover sheet to the card but, as mentioned above, they turn in the cards as required by law. The effect is that a few bad canvassers or a poorly run office will mean that bad cards are submitted as part of the normal process. But ACORN has done everything possible to make sure voting officials know to check the forms.

The sad fact is that in at least one state--Nevada--the voting officials disregarded ACORN's cover sheets flagging the voter registration forms. That should have never happened. The resulting blowup was a scandal in search of a scandal.

The stunning con of this whole thing is the assumption that bad voter registration cards being submitted will lead to vote fraud. If somebody submits a card for Mickey Mouse it isn't like Mr. Mouse is going to show up to vote. There is no voter fraud if nobody votes.


I know I'll hear a bunch of >>"I'm a liberal" ranting but folks I don't think you can show me any "verifiable information" to disput what's here

ACORN Hysteria
Simple questions about this excellent in-depth journalism on the part of Fox news. Does a 7 year old registered to vote 35 times mean a 7 year will vote for Barack Obama 35 times? How is this possible? The only fraud here is against ACORN by the organization's own employees. Many ACORN employees complain of a quota system, and say they fabricated registrations because it was too hot to canvass. Laziness is a human trait common to people of all political parties. The hysteria over a few thousand obviously fake (how do dead people or the Dallas Cowboys show up to vote, and then necessarily vote for Obama, in Las Vegas?) registrations says a lot about the confidence of Fox News in the Palin/McCain ticket. How does this effect the polls?!

Spinning AROUND on an ACORN

READ YOUR OWN WORDS...


"submitting fraudulent voter registration applications in 13 states this election cycle."


AS REQUIRED BY LAW!


ACORN MUST turn in even BOGUS applications. They are LEGAL DOCUMENTS and ACORN is required by law to turn them in, no matter what.
NO MATTER WHAT!

ACORN can only flag the incomplete, problem, or suspicious cards when turned in, then it is up to YOUR election officials. BLAME THEM!



ACORN DIDN'T 'COMMIT VOTER FRAUD!'

Register & Vote
What about the voters that are registering and filling out a ballot at the same time??? I am sure this would be fraud as they are voting multiple times as in Ohio - how can they prove not if absintee ballots have registration removed - I want fair vote not slanted - sorry ACORN is in the wrong - giving cigs and money to homeless to vote for Obama - is this not illlegal either - give me a break!!!

Lies, and the lying liars who tell them!
Geeze! Can I come to this site at least once and get a true story? (Being a righwing site... NO! Of course not.) Amanda the rogue reporter is at it again. If you want the real story on how The Conservative right is trying to STEAL this election you can read it here....

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tom-matzzie/how-mccain-will-s teal-the_b_133989.html

A word from the rest of the nation... IT WON'T WORK THIS TIME!! THIS IS NOT THE GORE/BUSH ELECTION!!! "WE THE PEOPLE" ARE NOT HAVING NONE OF IT!!!


Mr. Working Stiff
Let me break it down for ya.

The situation in Ohio permitted people to register and submit an absentee ballot on the same day. There is insufficient time to verify those registrations prior to th 16th of October, and as of the 25th the ballots are removed from their envelopes, severing them from any identification. Moreover, the Ohio Secretary of State is dragging her feet on verifying these registrations. To use your example of Micky Mouse, he doesn't have to show up on election day. He needs only hope his registration isn't examined for another few days and -viola- his absentee vote is coutned.

Also, it need not be outragous names such as Micky Mouse. You only need people attesting that they are so-and-so, no identification required, and -viola- your dead Aunt Sophie is up and voting again. Trust me, there are tombstones across the border in Arkansas who have voted straight Democratic ticket since end of the Civil War.

Politics of Victimhood





Every voter is double-check against DMV and/or social security databases, so these fraudulent registration cards won't result in votes anyway.


So it's just not a threat to the election's integrity.

Funny there are no stories about "Troopergate" today.

Proof Positive ah?
The only way somebody should be allowed to vote is go personally go to their "place of registration" (the Secretary of State in Michigan) in person.

NO organization should be allowed to accept and turn-in voter registration cards or any other form of registration.

If an individual himself doesn't take the time and responsibility , on his own time, to register that individual doesn't deserve the privilege of voting.

The Only exception would be those legitimately not able to get to the polling place because of physical incapacitation. That would be a relatively small number for whom an exception could be made.

Workin Stiff
LOL. You're such a joke. You just cut and paste your entire post from the Huffington Post. Dude. Horses don't fly, and neither does the HuffPost.

Fact. Acorn stole the 2004 Governors election in Washington. Acorn is likely responsible for the 2000 election debacle. They're a bunch of crooks, and so is Obama.

Oh, also, the Dems did steal the 60 elections. Smoke that you "Workin Stiff".

ab

No fraud?
Based on the last few posts, it appears that the marching orders have been sent to Obama's minions. Of course, there has been no voter fraud. ACORN is a fine, respected organization. What a bunch of nonsense!
The Justice Department should consider charges against this group citing all of the RICO violations. Maybe if some of the people in charge of ACORN go to jail, these actions would stop.

Bill
Why are Bill & Hillary working for BHO ? They must know that voters registrering through ACORN were "FRAUD" and voted for BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA.Why Bill why..are you nuts (Acorn is a nut)...
Get them out of my Country!!NOW
Doc
Army

SOONER
you're breakdown for me is greatly appreciated...However, from what I read just briefly on the State of Ohio Secretary of State eb page it appears to me that smae day registrations and voting could only be conducted at "approved by the Secretary of the State of Ohio" locations. In other words ACORN wasn't sitting in some park taking registrations and ballots.
I also read in a newspaper that turn out for this in Ohio wasn't as high as anticipated and though it may take time to verify a same day ballot it sems to me they got 3 plus weeks to get the job done.
Anything else you want to "break down fer me?"

Acorn
Amanda you can't bring up facts. Alan Colmes will talk over you and interrupt you while suggesting that you are mean and racist!

Acorn is Sen. Obama's group. They are his foot soldiers. They run interference for him.

Acorn protests against requiring credit worthiness for mortgages suggesting that those meanies who do are racist.

Acorn registers Obama supporters to vote and dares election boards to complain.

Sen. Obama supported this mortgage free for all which led to problems at Fannie/Freddie which led to the current financial downturn.

Sen. Obama, a newcomer to the US Senate, received large contributions from Freddie/Frannie. As large as Dem. senators who had been in the US Senate for decades!

Sen. McCain co-sponsored a bill to stop this mortgage rubber stamping. Dems. defeated it.

Oh, Heavydoug...
In a perfect world, every registration would be checked and verified and every voter would be I.D.ed at the ballot box. Indeed, in a perfect world, none of that would be necessary.

It ain't a perfect world.

Willful blindness toward fraud, even if only registration fraud, is implicit approval of such fraud. To state that is won't result in a single fraudulent vote is, well, let's just say overly optimistic.

Sadly, whenever someone attempts to clean up the voter roles so that they reflect only valid, registered voters, the hue and cry is raised over "Vote Suppression".

Now, you can quote me on this: If wanting limit participation to legally registered voters is Vote Suppression, then yes, I'm for it.

RICO Time!
This is obviously a conspiracy by a criminal organization to systematically violate the laws. These Dem thugs never get sanctioned for their crimes. Apparently this year there are enough fatheads, Alzheimer victims,mouth breathers, fake votes and socialist kooks to put these Dem geniuses in office so they can do to the rest of the economy what they did to the banking industry in the name of 'fairness'.

Voter Registration PAYOLA.....
Why don't you go AFTER MYSPACE, giving PRIZES for their VOTER REGISTRATION DRIVE?

BAD, BAD, BAD! MYSPACE!

WHY?

http://profile.myspace.com/Modules/Applications/Pages/Canva s.aspx?appId=111315

COULD IT BE BECAUSE.....

MySpace is a unit of FOX Interactive Media Inc. and NEWS CORP.


YOU HYPOCRITES!
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Working Stiff
Nobody said it was done furtively in a park somewhere. People were rounded up and carted off to voting stations. And, no, they don't have three weeks. The deadline for challenges to absentee ballots is this Wednesday - three days. Well, two, considering the holiday, but you get the gist. Barring that, the ballots can be removed from their envelopes on the 25th, which is only about a week-and-a-half off; half the time you ascribe.

Moreover, if minimal effort is expended, then it doesn't matter if they have three days, three weeks, or three years.

And it's not "Break down fer" you. It's "Break IT down FOR" you. You presume much, sir.

GROW UP GOP !!!
Your silly 'guilt-by-association targeting' is something LITTLE KIDS DO in the schoolyard!

"I saw you talking to the teacher"

GROW UP!

YOU LOOK IDIOTIC!

I REALIZE you are getting your hat handed to you early and being ASKED TO LEAVE THE DANCE, but GROW UP!

The SAD PART is JOHNNY was the BEST the GOP could put-up! Better luck next time.

ACORN got money in the *bailout*
it got Annenberg money while O and Ayers were doling it out.

When I registered years ago, I had to show a birth certificate and driver's license. Today, that's considered *voter suppression.*

If no one can verify the registrations, they just shouldn't be taken.

And anyone that can defend or justify tens of thousands of illegal *votes* in states where a few thousand mean winning or losing are crooks and the problem themselves.

The feds should shutter ACORN. No one HAS to solicit for voter registration. Citizens can register themselves.

Voter Fraud Supression
Seems amazing to me that a civil discussion on this forum is nearly impossible...probably the worst of the dozen or so Blog's I read reguarly from both political presuasions.
Some of you really need to spend some time reading factcheck.org and then comparing it to posting on both liberal and conservative blogs.

Where I above copied the long detail about acorn's proecss is more important to some here than the validity of what it says.

Also, regarding voter roll purging. Hey I think it's a good idea when it is done sytematically across a state and not by highly selected areas that are noted for being heavily of one political persuasion and not equally in districts of the opposite political persuasion.

If you can balance you're judgments instead of lambasting an orginzation for trying to get more people involved in the political process then this nation can truly grow strong again.
Sure they get bad voter applications becuase people tr and scam the system but it seams to me they'e trying to flag the bad ones and no one is paying attention till someone forces a headline in a newspaper

Let's be constructive and make this a better place

McCain's Goose Is Cooked....
How many more ways can McCain's ship get sunk. I didn't know that God was a Republican. I didn't know he was affiliated with any "political" party seeing that church and state are separate. Does this mean that the IRS could now tax his church since it was used as a political forum? This is the very reason why PETA didn't go after Sarah Palin, because they'd lose their tax exempt status. The fact that McCain would allow this type of introduction to be given speaks to who HE really is. Desperation speaks volumes. How many more times does Obama have to say that he is a Christian and NOT a Muslim. This country is so narrow minded STILL. and to have a "so call" man of God stand in the pulpit with these sweeping lies is a travesty. His parishioners are should be ashamed and mortified so see such a thing.
Narrow Minded People- to say the least....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5g0d3_KE5js


SO 'GO AFTER' MYSPACE !
Why don't you go AFTER MYSPACE, giving PRIZES for their VOTER REGISTRATION DRIVE?

WHY?

http://profile.myspace.com/Modules/Applications/Pages/Canva s.aspx?appId=111315

Why not?

YOU KNOW WHY?
BECAUSE.....

MySpace is a unit of FOX Interactive Media Inc. and NEWS CORP.


With your silly 'guilt-by-association targeting' I'll BET it goes right to the TOP!

That OLD VOTER FRAUD, Rupert Murdoch.


In all states there is no check
In OH and FL and I don't know elsewhere, you can reg. and vote the same day. Those votes are counted.

Then it's up to some challenger, a local vol. at the polls, to investigate registrations and votes they oppose.

And how many little old lady volunteers who get $25 for sitting all day in some polling center has the wherewithal or motivation to track down thousands of illegal reg.'s and votes?

That's what the criminal Dems. count on. They figure some real go-getter may disqualify a few here and there but the vast thousands will get through.

The reason the Dems. have been so angry since FL is they chose 4 southern FL counties traditioanlly Dem. for *recount* by Dem. supervisors running Dem. committeepeople who made up the Dem. re-counters who were using a Dem.-created ballot that had been used for years but was suddenly too difficult for Dem. voters to use.

The Sup. Ct. stopped that nonsense on a 7-2 vote supporting the 14th Amend. based on due process, saying if they didn't recount the whole state, the Dems. were violating the votes of citizens in the Pandhandle and suburbs.

Because they tried so hard to steal the vote and lost, that's what made them so angry, and angry still. Now, they re more determined than ever to steal this election.

Lone
"GROW UP! YOU LOOK IDIOTIC!"

Coming from you, these words are quite ironic.

Annenberg Foundation ?
You mean like the ONE McCain says endorses HIM?

You can say it...

YES!

Leonore Annenberg, currently the president and chairman of the Annenberg Foundation and widow of ambassador and philanthropist Walter Annenberg.

http://www.johnmccain.com/informing/news/PressReleases/1b83 8127-b4a0-4868-9906-62f555376089.htm

Ken, "GROW UP! YOU LOOK IDIOTIC"
THANKS KEN, for PROVING MY POINT!

"GROW UP! YOU LOOK IDIOTIC" what a CHILDISH COMEBACK! Says just SO much, about YOU!


Your silly 'guilt-by-association targeting' IS something LITTLE KIDS DO in the schoolyard!

"I saw you talking to the teacher"

GROW UP!
==========
SEE THE DIFFERENCE, THAT WAS MY WHOLE POINT!

Alinsky tactics
ACORN won't stop just because they've been caught. A principle of Alinsky tactics is to do whatever it takes to win. Another is to make the opponent play be the rules. So, inundating the system with fraudulent voter registrations will keep them occupied and force them to use up resources.

Young Communist League - ACORN - Dems

Author: Joelle Fishman, Chair, Political Action Committee, CPUSA
First published 11/21/2006 16:58

“The Milwaukee YCL (Young Communist League) also mobilized the club for labor walks and also participated with a coalition to defeat the anti-gay marriage initiative.

Florida YCLers worked in Orlando and Jacksonville with ACORN.

YCLers in Hartford and New Haven worked with the Party District for Ned Lamont. The Chicago Club worked with the Party District on a series of labor walks, including for Tammy Duckworth.

“Our new Arkansas Study Group was a leading voice in the University of Arkansas campus coalition to get out the student vote.

They worked with the local Democrats and ACORN.

New Jersey YCLers worked mainly with the Party District to re-elect Menendez. Last, DC YCLers going to school in Maryland worked through campus-based peace coalitions to elect a Democratic governor.”


Suspension of Funds
Since there seems to be zero accountibility in anything these days, with all of this going on, I have to agree that funds to this group should be suspended.

In the housing bill that was passed in August(Dodd/Frank) they were to receive $500 million. I think it is time to suspend the money. I also heard today that ACORN does not have the man power to investigate all of these allegations. Well, then you might want to train these people a lot better or lead by example and that does mean embezzling money and covering it up.

Family Tradition - ACORN + Communists

"...Two months later, on January 31, in this hall, we held an extraordinary national conference which established our framework for the 2004 elections.

The conference was extraordinary because of the turnout of 250 plus multi-racial, multi-national activists from states large and small across our land. It was extraordinary because of the message of leaders from other organizations who came and called upon us, that our presence was much needed as Communists.

Remember the president of NY NOW telling us she wanted to see lots of red flags at the March for Women’s Lives.

And the chair of ACORN and Working Families Party who called upon us as family to make our contribution known. Did we respond? YES, we responded!

Across the country, we rolled up our sleeves, in swing states and so-called safe states.

In voter registration drives, local races and Congressional battlegrounds. Walking precincts and working phone banks out of union halls.

In presidential battleground states from Ohio, Missouri, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin to Minnesota and New Hampshire, our folks were quickly tapped to help lead the work."

Author: Joelle Fishman, Chair, Political Action Committee, CPUSA
First published 11/23/2004 18:42

Just The Facts
From the Cincinatti Enquirer



What must a voter do to prove they're a qualified, eligible voter when they register and vote at the same time?

Anyone who registers to vote must fill out the same paperwork, whether they do it in person minutes before voting or at any other time. You are not required to show identification, but must provide either your driver's license number or the last four digits of your Social Security number.

What will happen to those ballots?

No ballots will be counted until Election Day. Ballots cast by people who are taking advantage of the same-day registration window are supposed to be stored separately from ballots cast by those who had registered earlier. In the meantime, officials will verify the address given by those voters.

How do elections officials prove you live where you say you live?

When you register to vote, officials in Ohio mail you a postcard confirming your status. Under the 1993 National Voter Registration Act, if that postcard is successfully delivered to you, that constitutes verification of your address, even if you don't currently live there.

Hamilton County will be mailing those postcards to new registrants beginning Tuesday, said Sally Krisel, director of the board of elections. Absentee ballots cast by those voters won't be processed until the end of the month.

If the postcard comes back as undeliverable, officials will investigate further, Krisel said. That could include visiting addresses, calling voters or other steps.

She said the investigations can be completed by Election Day, but it could depend on volume.



http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081 005/NEWS0106/810050321

Maybe this will shut the "victim" repubs up.

Amanda Carpenter my Favorite

Amanda Carpenter my you have become my Favorite writer at Town Hall.

Beauty, Brains, fearless and a Patriot - what a combination - you go girl!

Obama Suppression of Free Speech

Barack Obama claims 'All Citizens are Equal', but some are 'More Equal Than Others' by Affirmative Action' and Patriots MUST be willing to 'Sacrifice for the Common Good'. A look at History tells us that we have heard that from Socialists before.
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The German Workers' Party name was changed by Hitler to include the term National Socialist. Thus the full name was the National Socialist German Workers' Party (Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei or NSDAP) called for short, Nazi.

Some of Hitler's demands:
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22. We demand the abolition of the regular army and the creation of a national (folk) army.

23. We demand that there be a legal campaign against those who propagate deliberate political lies and disseminate them through the press. In order to make possible the creation of a German press, we demand:

Newspapers transgressing against the common welfare shall be suppressed. We demand legal action against those tendencies in art and literature that have a disruptive influence upon the life of our folk, and that any organizations that offend against the foregoing demands shall be dissolved.

COMMON GOOD BEFORE INDIVIDUAL GOOD
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I am NOT comparing Barack Obama to Hitler.

I AM comparing Barack Obama to history and his suppression of anyone who speaks against Obama.

Most, if NOT all Liberals think Marxist/Socialism cannot do ANY HARM - history refutes that claim.

Barack Obama brings Marxism/Socialism to America.

Obama and ACORN Stealing Votes

"ACORN is a grassroots political organization that grew out of George Wiley's National Welfare Rights Organization (NWRO), whose members in the late 1960s and early 70s invaded welfare offices across the U.S. -- often violently -- bullying social workers and loudly demanding every penny to which the law "entitled" them.

ACORN's mandate today includes all issues touching low-income and working-class people.

The organization runs schools where children are trained in class consciousness; it oversees a network of "boot camps" where street activists are trained; and it conducts operations that extort contributions from banks and other businesses under threat of trumped-up civil rights charges.

In the 2004 and 2006 election cycles, ACORN and its sister group Project Vote ran nationwide voter mobilization drives that were marred by allegations of fraudulent voter registration, vote-rigging, voter intimidation, and vote-for-pay scams.

Beginning in the mid-1980s, Obama worked with ACORN and Project Vote.

In 1995 Obama sued, on behalf of ACORN, for the implementation of the Motor Voter law in Illinois. (Jim Edgar, the Republican Governor of Illinois, opposed the law because he believed that allowing voters to register using only a postcard would breed widespread fraud.)

ACORN later invited Obama to help train its staff. Moreover, Obama eventually would sit on the Board of the Woods Fund of Chicago, which gave a number of sizable grants to ACORN.

In April 2007 The Nation reported, “Today Obama continues his organizing work largely through classes for future leaders identified by ACORN and the Centers for New Horizons on the south side [of Chicago].”

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/Articles/acorn5.html

Obama ACORN Trainer and gave $800,000

There is an old Spanish saying.
“Tell me who you walk with, and I will tell you WHO YOU ARE!”

"I chose my friends carefully." Barack Obama, Dreams of My Father

Did Barack Obama chose the organizations he associated with as carefully?

The Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN) is a grassroots political organization.

ACORN invited Obama to help train its staff. Moreover, Obama eventually would sit on the Board of the Woods Fund of Chicago, which gave a number of sizable grants to ACORN.

In April 2007 The Nation reported, “Today Obama continues his organizing work largely through classes for future leaders identified by ACORN and the Centers for New Horizons on the south side [of Chicago].”

1) ACORN is the largest radical group in America, with 175,000 dues-paying member families, and more than 850 chapters in 70 US cities.

2) ACORN is implicated in numerous reports of fraudulent voter registration, vote-rigging, voter intimidation, and vote-for-pay scams during the 2004 election.

In September 2008 the Board of Elections in Cuyahoga County, Ohio accused ACORN's paid workers, who had been tasked with registering as many pro-Democrat voters as possible, of submitting fraudulent voter-registration cards.

According to the Board, ACORN workers had commonly turned in separate cards with duplicate names but different addresses or different birth dates. Other cards listed people living at an address that was not a residence.

Meanwhile, the U.S. Attorney's office in Michigan indicated that it might prosecute ACORN for similar voter-registration scams in that state.

Obama and ACORN partnering in 'Voter Fraud' 'Change' and 'Hope' for America?

ACORN 'guilt-by-association targeting'

ACORN was founded in 1970, it's organized into more than 850 neighborhood chapters. YOU DON'T MEAN A THING TO THEM!! You have been DEBUNKED.

It is the 1.3 MILLION NEW low-income, minority and young VOTERS YOU ARE AFRAID OF.

http://www.acorn.org/index.php?id=12439&tx_ttnews[tt_news]= 22383&tx_ttnews[backPid]=12340&cHash=ef14f35f55



VOTER FRAUD?
Go to MYSPACE, they are giving out PRIZES for registration. PAYOLA!

That OLD VOTER FRAUD, Rupert Murdoch at work.

'Guilt-by-association targeting' is EASY, isn't it?

Most of America


Is sick and tired of your cowardly, baseless attacks.

The "Politics of Victimhood" is the only card you have to play,

and it's not working.


You party is coming apart, see for yourself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQRBZGVagcQ


Retired One, OBAMA CORRECTED CRIME !
OBAMA represented ACORN AS THEIR ATTORNEY as in the "MOTOR VOTER" LAWSUIT with the DEPT. OF JUSTICE, BECAUSE CRIME WAS BEING COMMITTED by Jim Edgar, the Republican Governor of Illinois.

Repubs Whip Up Paranoia


Where there is no need for it.



Elections officials concede some of the system's flaws, but argue that Ohio has not fundamentally altered its basic checks and balances that keep voters from gaming the system. "Early voting" is in fact just an expansion of existing, decades-old absentee-voting procedures.


http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081 005/NEWS0106/810050321


Read all about it.

Buying votes is illegal
and suppressing political discussion is an abrogation of the 1st Amendment, which is what the free speech clause was developed for.

If O and ilk cannot win legitimately, they do not deserve to win anything at all.

The left is always angry and full of outrage and threatening revolution and riot, but when they are caught plotting and planning their criminalities, suddenly it's the police that are the criminals and they are the champions of the common man.

I come from the dirt poor. That meant all they had was dirt. I am no more afraid of the poor than my own dog, but this threat of somehow the homeless of the US (600,000, prob. not enough to do it) is communist rot about revolution of the proletariat. No proletariat exists in the US, and most of the poor want flat-screened tv's and a better car and not commie revolution that drags everyone down to starvation level--see Cuba, N. Korea, the USSR in the 20s and 30s, yadda.

Even Fox News


Is conceding the fraudulent registrations won't become votes.

Every ACORN registration is marked as such. Thus, it will be verified.




Why is it a major issue?

BECAUSE MCCAIN HAS NO REAL ISSUES.


Silly rabbits, tricks are for kids.

Renny


I couldn't make much sense of your post.

But as far as winning fairly,

How 'bout these Real Clear Politics Poll nummbers.


Election 2008 Obama McCain Spread
RCP National Average 50.0 42.6 Obama +7.4
Favorable Ratings +21.0 +7.0 Obama +14.0
Intrade Market Odds 77.7 23.5 -
Electoral College Obama McCain Spread
RCP Electoral Count 277 158 Obama +119
No Toss Up States 364 174 Obama +190
Battleground States Obama McCain Spread
Colorado 49.3 45.3 Obama +4.0
Ohio 48.6 45.7 Obama +2.9
Florida 48.7 44.9 Obama +3.8
Nevada 49.2 46.3 Obama +2.9
Missouri 49.0 46.8 Obama +2.2
Virginia 50.6 44.3 Obama +6.3


That looks like a can of "Whupass" McCain opened up!

(notice the electoral votes)

justa workin stiff
When you directly quote words from someone else, you are supposed to give attribution. Or, are you Mr. Matzzie? Either way, the words are a load of dung. Am I supposed to believe that all the states had the exact same law? Am I really supposed to believe all those quality controls you mention are actually followed? You state, "There is no voter fraud if nobody votes." Really? The idea is to puff up registrations to help camouflage the stuffing. And, I don't mean the breaded stuff that goes in a turkey.

Maybe you can't read
In most states with same day registration and voting, it is up to someone *outside* (a challenger--official reps. of the parties--but often volunteer--I've been one--charged with stopping voter fraud) to protest votes and prove they are illegal.

Clear enough? Most states do not have the personnel or motivation to do so.

As far as the polls go, any poll with a 3+4+ range of variation that produces any results like 1 or 3 or 5 points difference fall within the margin of error and prob. mean the contest is exactly even.

Where O is up 10 pts., if he is anywhere, that # might be significant. Conversely, where either candidate is up 5 pts. or 3 pts., esp. if last week or the week before it was reversed, the numbers are likely not dependable.

In CA when Mayor Bradlee of LA ran for gov., he was up 7-10 pts. and lost the election.

So, it isn't over until it's over.

But where millions have been newly registered and are apparently not legitimate, actual citizens and voters are concerned that criminality could skew or steal the election.

Clear enough?

heavydoug
I guess you have little to no experience with the United States Postal Service? No ID required. Unless the postcard comes back undeliverable, the vote is valid. Ya, right. That sounds about as stringent as my state where no ID is required at the poll or at registration. How about we just text our votes in like American Idol. It will be just as accurate as what we have now.

Hitchiker
Numerous others have posted siila information...which is true no matter how much you wish it wasn't...an invalid voter registration application does not equal and illeagal vote. And as near as I can tell no one has stated that all states have the same voting laws. IF polls are properly run then tere are represetatives from both parties and every poling place and they work TOGETHER to acertain that you're voting in the correct place and that you are who you say you are (exact rules vary by state).
If you like I can go back to th first pst I made on this thread and plg in the various atributions but since I found all the various components one one place I pasted the portion that applied to this discussion (roughly 1/3 of the post) and so far no one has posted documentation that disputes any of that original post...only venom at the source of the information.
And if you want to brig up ballot box stuffing then lets do some serious research on the 2004 Ohio presidential election shall we?

The REAL Voting scandal



"Was there a White House plot to illegally suppress votes in 2004? Is there a similar plan for the upcoming elections? This week NOW examines documents and evidence that points to a Republican Party plan designed to keep Democrats from voting, allegedly by targeting people based on their race and ethnicity with key battleground states like Ohio and Florida of particular interest. "It was a partisan, discriminatory attempt to challenge voters of color," Eddie Hailes, a senior attorney for The Advancement Project, a civil rights group, told NOW."



http://www.pbs.org/now/shows/330/

Find out why Repubs are so wary of voting scams.


They are guilty of it.

Hitchiker


The voter's name is checked against the DMV and Social Security database.

No match, no vote. And only one vote.

It is not necessary to have an address, homeless people do not, but they have a social security number so it is checked against their name.


More Repubs Caught in Vote Scams




A Tale of Political Dirty Tricks Makes the Case for Election Reform



By ADAM COHEN
Published: January 1, 2008
In New Hampshire’s hotly contested 2002 Senate race, Democratic get-out-the-vote phone banks were jammed with incoming calls on Election Day. The Republican John Sununu, won re-election by under 20,000 votes, and Allen Raymond, a Republican Party operative, went to jail for his role in the jamming."




http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/01/opinion/01tue3.html




Caught and Convicted. Where is the Republican outrage?



No Credibility

This woman is a racist and has no credibility whatsoever. Ignore her


See

http://townhall.com/blog/g/70bfdf8b-285b-4a03-9fd5-626b947 2de00&comments=true

sorry heavydoug
if a member of the national socialist democrat party (new name for democrats or it might be national democrat socialists party)accuses anyone of anything wrong involved in some criminal act, history has proven it is because the democrat accuser is already doing the crime and many more and worser crimes against the law. in other words the pot calling the kettle black. take osama obama for example he is a bigger liar than slick willie clinton another criminal, anti-American.

Reality Check


"The good news for anyone truly concerned about vote fraud as a result of the Republicans’ repeated claims is that every time legitimate law enforcement investigates, it finds almost no vote fraud.

In Milwaukee, that was confirmed by a joint investigation by the Milwaukee County district attorney, a Democrat, and the U.S. attorney, a Republican.

Common sense tells you why. Anyone convicted of vote fraud goes to federal prison. Risking incarceration to cast an illegal vote that would make an infinitesimal difference in the outcome of an election is senseless."



Common sense anyone?

At any toher time....
If John McCain had even ever breathed the word ACORN, the race would be over for him.

All I can say, is watch out what ask for democrates. A thug is a thug, is a thug!

ACORN ,A Criminal Organization
ACORN has been involved in the cause of this meltdown,as like being in the bed with Fannie Mae. Freddie Mac liked it so he joined them.

Many in congress joined them and an orgy insued. We,the innocent taxpayers won't even get a cigarette after the fact.

justa workin stiff
plagiarizes, "the law REQUIRES that ACORN turn the forms in to the voter registration office. The law, rightly, doesn't want anybody throwing out voter registration forms for any reason"

from the article on Huffpo by Matzzie.

Okay now, what law? Which state? Do all the states currently involved in investigating Acorn fraud have the same law? See what I mean? Just keep believing man! The 'One' will save us all from the evil republicans and any means to that end is justified. Acorn could do no wrong, right? Just humble folks trying to make a difference by volunteering their time to register folks too stupid to figure it out on their own and, with no intention of actually going to some lame polling station anyway. Acorn just wants to make sure their voices are heard on election day regardless. A true kool-aid drinker you are.

Thanks Doc


Your 5:27 post tells the republican party's sad reality.



Wow, Amanda.

Doc


Sorry, your 5:15 post was what I meant.

heavydoug
If the state of IL is so tough on one person, one vote, how come your state is right behind CA on the way to bankruptcy? How could otherwise sane people vote into national elective office Obama or Durbin? Wasn't Obama's first election to state office a great race? Wow, the clean campaigning, the rigorous debates that fleshed out all the issues, the grassroots organizing and money raising? Oh wait, that was another election. In his election, nobody needed to vote at all, right? How many votes did he receive while being elected a state senator the first time. Now, that's Chicago!

Hitchiker
Well sir there's a law on the books for states of Florida, Ohio, Michigan, Illinois and Colorado that I found without too much trouble... I strongly suspect ther are others... In most states it's covered under voter registration rules and requirements (see the Secretary of State for what ever state you wish to check, and oh my, they even have it on-line)....in Illinois the voter regestration pads they used to use were sequentially numbered in pads, I don't know now a days since I don't live in Illinois anymore. In none of my posts did I indicate I thought Acorn was blameless and the article I referenced in my first post does clearly indicate they pay people for doing this work and that leads to some of the fraud they do find (and that they reported more than once in Nevada).
You can continue to sling epitaphs at me that doesn't change the fact that you still haven't changed the basic premiss that regerstering people to vote is a good thing....falsifying documents is illegal...and still it is unlikly that anyone who was coerced or bribed into filling out multiple applications to vote will, in fact, vote even once...and as Ohio Sec. State already said, the turn out was not the huge volume they were expecting.
Got anything civil to say we can debate it.

heavydoug and common sense
You mention some unfortunate fellow who went to jail for jamming a phone net. That's one. Do you truly expect anyone with common sense to believe there is no voter fraud in this country besides him? In a previous post you claim the GOP is so guilty of voter fraud they want no investigations. Makeup your mind. Common sense tells me with the easily evaded safeguards in virtually every state, fraud amounts to a significant proportion of the vote. Didn't you hear of that county with more registered democrats than the population of the county? I don't make claims as to who's worse, or better at it, depending on how you look at it. I do claim it is serious and stringent ID requirements are needed and should be enforced for a job, to receive govt benefits, and to vote.

Obama is Guilty, too
Obama should be removed from the ballot as he's guilty of providing funding to this tax-free crock of crap Acorn. Obama's funneled millions of dollars of tax payers funds to allow them to create havoc not only with fannie mae and freddie mac lending, but voter fraud. He has used them to swing every election he's been in...how long is it going to be before Obama, the left wing media and all his cronie corruptocrats become front page news on every newspaper and tv in the country? This is an abomination! Bring him down now, Americans! He's not worthy of even running for our presidency.

justa workin stiff
writes, "In none of my posts did I indicate I thought Acorn was blameless"

That was the entire purpose of the article you copied and pasted from Huffpo. If you did not agree with it, then why do that? One normally uses others to buttress an argument being made. If that was not your argument, then what purpose did it serve to copy and paste that cow dung?

Hey Heavydrugs...
I'm for stopping voter fraud no matter which party is involved. How about you?

So why is it, any time an effort is made to end voter fraud by requiring people to PROVE WHO THEY ARE and that they are QUALIFIED to vote in the precinct in which they are voting, the liberal Democrats are always opposed to such measures?

Plausible Denial
For those of you requesting proof of ACORN wrong doing or for those of you who state that voter fraud has not occurred until someone votes, I will ask the following. Would you approve of a Republican organization doing the same thing?

Don't tell me that ACORN is not a Democrat organization, I realize that there is not a paper trail to connect the two. That is what is known as plausible denial. I notice there are no Democrats crying foul at voter fraud. I wonder why?

Tibby

SideShow Carpenter
Justice and legal process will deal with vote fraud. Ok Republicans got away with one in Florida in 2000. This is a sideshow. The economy is the topic that most American workers are worried about. Sideshow or no sideshow, that is the topic. McCain is busy trying to sell an elitist economic plan for the rich and by the rich. That is why Obama's lead is widening. Obama the critical thinker and McCain the Brash. Palin has plenty of friends with the Anti-American group up in Alaska.


Heavydog
I have worked for 40 years off and on in NJ politics and have been
a challenger (a person at a polling place who disputes a *voter*'s right to cast a ballot, that's volunteer for a particular candidate),
a judge (official paid election position that presides over voting according to law),
and a clerk (official paid election position who helps locate voter's signatures in the registray--yes, in NJ, we have really registered voters with signature id).

I have seen the same person(s) appear to vote several times. Onve in 1968, I said I always caught them the 3rd time if not the 2nd. They never protested, because they had so many polling places to cover they just went on to the next one.

Police were always positioned outside polling sites, but half the time were conducting illegal book making activities on how many people voted.

I was in Hoboken in 1972 when federal marshalls came in and sealed the voting machines so they couldn't be tampered with.

In Jersey City, I saw an entire ward turn out to vote for a guy who was running unopposed, so he won anyway, and he was in jail for loan sharking at the time.

In 1965, the mayor of Hoboken had a bannre across Washington Street that said, *Vote XXX and don't raise the price of graft.*

In Newark, ministers patroled neighborhoods and gave out *walking around money* which was *ministering* to buy votes. The money comes from the pols.

There is a grand jury in almost every northern county of my state in an election year investigating voter fraud.

Whatever website you found that said there was no fraud in your state is a joke or another web idiocy that means nothing. If you believe it, you need a tune up of the left side of your cerebral cortex.

One reason
the ACORN thugs won't stop is because we don't have a million man MARCH!!!!!!!!!!

If we are to stop this thug group, we HAVE to MARCH!!!!!

Unfortunate State of Affairs
After reading a lot of posts to this article, I find that we are in a sad state when people are justifying ACORN's action claiming that the 2000 and 2004 elections were stolen. While no one has come out and said it, many imply that ACORN's actions are just because it serves as some sort of reparation for previous elections. You can play the legal shell game as much as you want as to whose responsible but at the end of the day we know that many of the registrations coming from ACORN are fraudulent. Period.

That is just sad. Anyone with a fraction of a brain knows that the ends do not justify the means. No matter how noble you may believe BHO is, voter fraud is voter fraud and all sides should be ashamed and outraged that one of this country's noblest institutions comes down to who can scam who without being caught.

If it were up to me, I would say that we wipe the slate clean every four years where everyone would have to register again. It should be a two-stage process where someone submits their registration card and then have to confirm by responding to a card that is mailed out. Look, we should only have, at most, 300 million registered voters (way less than that when you factor out ineligible voters). My desktop PC could store that much information with database queries to filter out fraudulent entries. Why do we put up with such an inefficient and fraud-prone system?

The news
from Cleveland today stated ACORN registered 100000new voters in Cuyahoga county alone. Thats 100,000 new voters. The worse news is the county says at LEAST 15% are fraudulant!!!

The news
from Cleveland today stated ACORN registered 100000new voters in Cuyahoga county alone. Thats 100,000 new voters. The worse news is the county says at LEAST 15% are fraudulant!!!

The news
from Cleveland today stated ACORN registered 100000new voters in Cuyahoga county alone. Thats 100,000 new voters. The worse news is the county says at LEAST 15% are fraudulant!!!

SouthPawPundit...
And Huff 'n Puff became the last source of accuracy when?

Eastlake Joe...
Since I have, until last year, in Cuyahoga Country (Lakewood), and I'm very aware of the population loss as people move south and west, my thought is if you add up all the registered voters that have been there for years and the new registrants, I would bet that easily many more than those 15% estimated are fraudulent, because there aren't that many people in the county.

Eastlake Joe...
That's "lived" I apologize for the typo.

The Frightening thing is that...
Obama was personally instructing and teaching ACORN's leadership for at least ten years.

The Obama camp is trying to hide that fact and the MSM is all too willing to look the other way.


ACORN has already stolen...
ACORN has already successfully stolen at least one major election recently.

In the 2004 governor's election in Washington State, the Republican candidate Dino Rossi won, and then he won an automated recount. The Democrats called for a third and final recount by hand, and all of a sudden, lo and behold, over 700 ballots were mysteriously "discovered" all in one liberal county with a strong ACORN presence. Almost all for the newly discovered votes were for the Democratic candidate Christine Gregoire of course, who ended up winning the recount by only 129 votes. ACORN later admitted to fabricating the new ballots.

The liberal Washington State Supreme Court blocked any further legal action and ACORN and the Democrats succeeded in stealing major another election, and Washington State has suffered greatly for her incompetence since. ACORN may well have succeeded similarly in Ohio, Missouri and elsewhere across the country.

How can a citizen support his government when he knows it was not legitimately elected? This is what ACORN has been doing across the country now for years. Treacherous indeed.

Say iIt Ain't sso Sarah!


We thought you were a reformer.



http://www.villagevoice.com/2008-10-08/news/the-book-of-sar ah/5




Abusing power? Backroom deals? Rich friends, big favors?


Sarah's going to get impeached AFTER her and the cranky old guy lose.


Is McCain a joke or what?

Hawk


It could be a real or phony charge, you didn't even post real or phony proof.

Hint: People won't believe something you say, just because it's you.

Post something to support your stupidity.

ACORN and Communist Party USA

Author: Joelle Fishman,
Chair, Political Action Committee, Communist Party USA
First published 11/21/2006 16:58


“The Milwaukee YCL (Young Communist League) also mobilized the club for labor walks and also participated with a coalition to defeat the anti-gay marriage initiative.

Florida YCLers worked in Orlando and Jacksonville with ACORN.

YCLers in Hartford and New Haven worked with the Party District for Ned Lamont. The Chicago Club worked with the Party District on a series of labor walks, including for Tammy Duckworth.

“Our new Arkansas Study Group was a leading voice in the University of Arkansas campus coalition to get out the student vote.

They worked with the local Democrats and ACORN.

New Jersey YCLers worked mainly with the Party District to re-elect Menendez. Last, DC YCLers going to school in Maryland worked through campus-based peace coalitions to elect a Democratic governor.”


Sam Webb CPUSA for Barack Obama

"...Moreover, it is ready to strike the first and absolutely necessary blow in a few weeks, that is, to elect Barack Obama and bigger majorities in the House and Senate by a landslide..."

Author: Sam Webb, National Chair, Communist Party USA
First published 09/27/2008 17:43

------------------------------------------------------------------

"..marxism also says that state is an arena of struggle.

While the ruling class employs the state apparatus, including violence when necessary, to impose its interests on society, a united working class and people can successfully resist these measures from within as well as outside state structures.

This was done in the 1930s and in so doing, secured important victories for the nation’s working class and its allies.

It was also done in the 1960s and in doing so brought down the system of legal segregation. And we see it again today in the incredible efforts of millions of working people of all races and nationalities and their allies to elect Barack Obama and larger Democratic Party Congressional majorities in November.

Indeed, it is a task that takes on even greater significance given the financial storm that is shaking our country."

Author: Sam Webb, National Chair,
Communist Party USA
First published 09/23/2008 17:20



Heavy
Hate to burst your bubble, Bubba, but what I posted was on your MSM today. SO say it ain't true BOBO!!!

Obama knew about Wrights Racism
From Mr. Obama’s first autobiography, “Dreams From My Father” pp 131-6

"...When I asked for other pastors to talk to, several gave me the name of Reverend Wright..."

Barack Obama had his first meeting with Jeremiah Wright.

"...Afterward, in the parking lot, I sat in my car and thumbed through a silver brochure that I’d picked up in the reception area. It contained a set of guiding principles-a “Black Value System”-that the congregation had adopted in 1979..."

Wright remains a maverick among Chicago’s vast assortment of black preachers. He will question Scripture when he feels it forsakes common sense; he is an ardent foe of mandatory school prayer; and he is a staunch advocate for homosexual rights, which is almost unheard of among African-American ministers. Gay and lesbian couples, with hands clasped, can be spotted in Trinity’s pews each Sunday. Even if some blacks consider Wright’s church serving only the bourgeois set, his ministry attracts a broad cross section of Chicago’s black community.
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Obama's Pastor: Rev. Jeremiah Wright
"Hannity & Colmes," March 1, 2007

WRIGHT: If you're not going to talk about theology in context, if you're not going to talk about liberation theology that came out of the ‘60s, (INAUDIBLE) black liberation theology, that started with Jim Cone in 1968, and the writings of Cone, and the writings of Dwight Hopkins, and the writings of womanist theologians, and Asian theologians, and Hispanic theologians...

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=892361 62

HEAVY DOUG #103
Your name describes you as one big hefty man, and here you are frightened by a gorgeous, intelligent, articulate, God loving, gun toting, pro-life, America first female. If you want to talk about abusing power...tell your Marxist Messiah to give back the $800,000 that he stole from the taxpayers to give to his corrupt ACORN society. Tell him to give back the $126,000 of the tax payers money he conned off of his friend, the thief Raines, who robbed hard working Americans of millions of $$$. By the way, Raines just bought a 4.5 million condo in CA. Wonder how many times your Messiah will be a guest in that mansion paid for by us! ! ! ! Ayers, Rezko, Farrakan, Rains, Rev Wright, etc..talk about rich, corrupt, anti American friends, BIG favors! The Messiah is going to get impeached AFTER he and the cranky old guy, Biden lose!

Obama's James Cone Connection
James Cone -> Mentor Wright -> Obama

"Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill Gods who do not belong to the black community. . . . Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy. What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal. Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject his love."
James Cone
New York's Union Theological Seminary

Mentor Wrights' theology is based on the teachings of James Cone.

"It was because of these newfound understandings (at Trinity under Wright) -- that religious commitment did not require me to suspend critical thinking, disengage from the battle for economic and social justice...that I was finally able to walk down the aisle of Trinity...and be baptized." Barack Obama


Proof for Heavydoug
I know your mind is closed and it is useless to argue with a fool, so I won't.

Nevertheless, here is your proof: http://www.komonews.com/news/8729967.html

eastlake joe


I don't know why you can't grasp the concept that a fraudulent registration does not equal fraudulent votes.

THEY CHECK THEM.

You are officially dumb.

How does it feel?

ACORN + Communists = 'Family Tradition'

"...Two months later, on January 31, in this hall, we held an extraordinary national conference which established our framework for the 2004 elections.

The conference was extraordinary because of the turnout of 250 plus multi-racial, multi-national activists from states large and small across our land. It was extraordinary because of the message of leaders from other organizations who came and called upon us, that our presence was much needed as Communists.

Remember the president of NY NOW telling us she wanted to see lots of red flags at the March for Women’s Lives.

And the chair of ACORN and Working Families Party who called upon us as family to make our contribution known. Did we respond? YES, we responded!

Across the country, we rolled up our sleeves, in swing states and so-called safe states.

In voter registration drives, local races and Congressional battlegrounds. Walking precincts and working phone banks out of union halls.

In presidential battleground states from Ohio, Missouri, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin to Minnesota and New Hampshire, our folks were quickly tapped to help lead the work."

Author: Joelle Fishman, Chair,
Political Action Committee, Communist Party USA
First published 11/23/2004 18:42

SUBJECT HEAVY DOUG
Say it ain't soooooooo Barack Hussein Obama. We thought you were a reformer, and you are not even in office yet and you are already planning heavy to steal more of our hard earned wages. Isn't over 700 billion enough for you, Pelosi, Reid, Frank, Schumer,etc...? Reformer???? Just more of the same from the greedy Demos!

McCain Is Such A Maverick...


He's voting for Obama too.

Hawk
Don't bother with proof, man. Heavy is a dem and they run from proof, unless it's for them. Any anti-BOBO proof is something they run from!

Heavy Assume
And you are unimportant and miniscule so what?

Hawk

YOU POSTED:

"ACORN has already stolen...
ACORN has already successfully stolen at least one major election recently.

In the 2004 governor's election in Washington State, the Republican candidate Dino Rossi won, and then he won an automated recount. The Democrats called for a third and final recount by hand, and all of a sudden, lo and behold, over 700 ballots were mysteriously "discovered" all in one liberal county with a strong ACORN presence. Almost all for the newly discovered votes were for the Democratic candidate Christine Gregoire of course, who ended up winning the recount by only 129 votes. ACORN later admitted to fabricating the new ballots.

The liberal Washington State Supreme Court blocked any further legal action and ACORN and the Democrats succeeded in stealing major another election, and Washington State has suffered greatly for her incompetence since. ACORN may well have succeeded similarly in Ohio, Missouri and elsewhere across the country.

How can a citizen support his government when he knows it was not legitimately elected? This is what ACORN has been doing across the country now for years. Treacherous indeed."

And supported it with this:

http://www.komonews.com/news/8729967.html



Only one thing:


It doesn't support your assertions at all.

Nothing about the governor's race.

Actually it's a story supporting everything that I've been saying.


Thank-you.



None
Don't forget his deal with NATO. That's a few billion more!

Heavy Goofball
I finally figured it out. Could it be that you work for ACORN and you worry about the repercussions and that's why you argue so hard about it? Jump ship while you can man the boat's sinking fast and will take you and all the other crooks down with it!!!!!!!!

Heavydoug, you are not getting it.
Why is ACORN submitting registration cards that have been found to be over 97 percent false if they don't intend to also cast false ballots using the fraudulent registration cards?

Almost 1000 fraudulent ballots - not just registration cards - were "found" in King County Washington alone days after the polls had closed, and they were just enough to steal the election from the Republican with a margin of only 129 votes to spare.

This is a criminal assault on our democracy.

You didn't like what happened in Florida, but you're just hunky-dory with fraudlent votes as long as they're for your guy. Now that's integrity!

Hawk


From your post:


"The seven submitted about 1,800 registration cards last fall on behalf of the liberal Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, or ACORN, which had hired them at $8 an hour to sign people up to vote, according to charging documents filed in Superior Court."


The ringleaders made 8 bucks an hour?


LOL


More from your post:


"But they flagged those names and tried to verify them using other state databases. Only six turned out to be legitimate voters, Satterberg said. The King County canvassing board agreed to remove many of the rest - 1,762 - from the rolls Thursday, satisfied they were fraudulent.

Investigators determined that no votes were cast from the fraudulent voter registrations."


THEY CHECK THE FRAUDULENT REGISTRATIONS----THEY DO NOT BECOME VOTES.



How stupid are you people?


HAHAHAH! RAAUGH! HAHA!

Hawk
And the motives for casting all those fake registrations is that the 8 buck an hour people are trying to make more money.


No deep conspiracy. No evil plan. Just some broke people trying to scam the system to make a couple more bucks.

More stupid than nefarious.

Like you.

Heavy - you are wrong and you know it
ACORN has a long track record of spamming the registration system with 1000s of fraudulent registration cards on the very last day of submission to intentionally overwhelm the system precisely to prevent the registrations from being properly checked. We know the phony registrations become phoney votes.

From John Fund in the WSJ: "Take Washington state, where former U.S. attorney John McKay declined to pursue allegations of voter fraud after that state's hotly contested 2004 governor's race was decided in favor of Democrat Christine Gregoire by 133 votes on a third recount. As the Seattle media widely reported, some "voters" were deceased, others were registered in storage lockers, and still others were ineligible felons. Extra ballots were "found" and declared valid 10 times during the vote count and recount. In some precincts, more votes were cast than voters showed up at the polls.

Mr. McKay insists he left "no stone unturned" in investigating allegations of fraud in the governor's race but found no evidence of a crime. But in an interview with Stefan Sharkansky of SoundPolitics.com in May, Mr. McKay admitted that he "didn't like the way the election was handled" and that it had "smelled really, really bad."

So it's OK with you Heavydoug if the election "smells really, really bad" just as long as your Socialist of choice isn't caught in the conspiracy to steal the election. I get it now...

Hawk


You are pathetic.

You actually think enough people to actually sway an election would risk going to federal prison to cast a vote?


Dream on.


This is how to steal an election.



http://www.pbs.org/now/shows/330/






Hawk
Heavy But doesn't get it voter fraud is voter fraud and he should be just as insenced as we are. The only catch is he sits on his little brain and can't comprehend that concept!!! I'm tired of banging his his little pea brain for one night. I'm out of here. I leave it to your capable hands!

How the Pros Steal an Election



http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/story?id=2507434&page=1



The ACORN stuff is silly.

eastlake joe


Hey if you want to bust those 8 dollar an hour guys for trying to scam, hey that's fair, they're breaking the law.

But the contention that it's a conspiracy to still the election is "pig squeal".(just thought of that)

All voters are double-checked.

"Pig Squeal".

Thanks Eastlake Joe
I agree with you. I'm calling it a night too.

Cheers!

I want to cry
When I see what they have done to our country and the electoral system, I want to cry.

I have always thought the U.S. was such a gift to humamity. To see it undermined by fraud rips me apart.

gardenguy


You should've cried when ourveterans votes got caged or when the repubs jammed the dem phone lines.

Those were real, this is not.

heavydog..Its is hard to read GardenDave
without being moved...That you have been moved in the wrong direction is just typical. He made no insult or attack....you took it as such... Thus... YOU HAVE BEEN DEFEATED. Prostrating yourself before him is in order :)

Well then Heavy your post makes
no sense....further proving that YOU are the A**hole. I think maybe you had better check your prostate..It is leaking STUPID into your brain. :) LMAO:) IDIOT:) Limp Di*k Hom*sexual pervert:)

Ron


You're losing any cool you may have had.

Nobody attacked your life partner.

Although he is whiny.

Get youself together, Ronnie.

Heavy..Ok...good advice..sorry
about the whole leaking stupid thing. Todays threads have been crazy. Great... a Lib tells me to go to bed ..and I go...sheesh. :)

John Mc Cain Loves Acorn and Immigrants
In 2006 McCain was the headline speaker at an Acorn Rally in Florida.

http://www.mdc.edu/Home/Press/rally.htm

Miami, Florida – February 20, 2006 ? Leaders from a diverse array of sectors will hold a rally in Miami on Thursday, February 23, 2006, in support of comprehensive immigration reform in an effort to keep immigration reform at the forefront of the public debate. Leaders from both political parties, immigrant communities, labor, business, and religious organizations will gather to call on Washington to enact workable reform.



The rally will feature Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) as the headline speaker along with elected officials, immigrants and key local and national leaders. Sen. McCain is one of the chief sponsors of the Secure America and Orderly Immigration Act; bipartisan, comprehensive immigration reform legislation introduced last Congress and scheduled for consideration by the Senate in the coming weeks. A similar rally with Sen. McCain is planned for New York City on February 27.


Christianlib: Tempests and Teapots?
Fraudulent voter registration is not a minor issue with same day registration and voting, as they have in Ohio.

It is too close to election day to validate the new registrations. On top of this, the Ohio State Attorney refuses to help the counties verify SSNs or driver's license numbers.

Also, how many places do not require identification to vote? The left is the first to cry "Racism" if ID is required.

It is not good policy to sweep blatant cases of voter registration fraud under the rug.

Third World Country!
What is the matter with you people? Ever since the Clinton years when "Motor Voter" was instituted, the Democratic Party has constantly worked at schemes to defraud the voter system in order to install their left wing philosophy on the masses here in the US, and in some cases around the world. Anyone remember back in the 90s when we had mass swearings in of new citizens, a scheme to get these new citizens to vote Democratic? I recall Rush a few years ago commenting about how Democrats but largely liberals never give up. So true, as what we witnessed in Florida in 2000. The voter fraud committed on behalf of Rep Loretta Sanchez in California and up to the current situation in Nevada and Ohio. Left wing operatives, have steadily been pushing, lying, scheming and browbeating people with there endless left wing propaganda, including some of those who have posted on this thread. In the meantime, old tough guy John McCain has basically given up fighting and might as well do hand in his concession speech across the aisle to Obamessiah "the expected one". How does it feel people to have been a citizen of a once proud and the most powerful country on the face of the earth; how does it feel that we are quickly becoming a third world Country?

ACORN should be outlawed now
ACORN is nothing more than a Leftist vehicle to subvert the rule of law, it should be outlawed. With the kind of Corruption that is prevalent in a Left wing Organization like ACORN, it is a clear and Present danger to our Republic. The Left is out of control and will stop at nothing to win by any means this time, the rule of Law means nothing to Obama and his followers, as long as they can exploit it to further their Leftist/Marxist cause.

OUR TAXES
being used to trample our most sacred Constitution right to vote.

For every 1,000 fraudulent votes, 1,000 legal votes are snuffed.

So what if ACORN has to pay a $25,000 fine - Congress is shoving them $50 Million a year!

Not to mention the purposeful voter purging going on across the Country.

This oganizations needs to be shut down.
The people running this operation needs to be jailed.
I would even suggest putting off the November election until discrepencies can be hammered out to ENSURE this is a far and legit election.

***WE AWAIT JUDGE R. BARCLAY SURRICK***

United States District Court Judge R. Barclay Surrick may be the most important figure in this election. He is the judge who will decide the fate of Philip Berg's lawsuit to compel the Marxist, Comrade Obama, to release his TRUE birth certificate...not the altered "Certificate of Live Birth" that Comrade Obama's fellow travelers like to say is proof of his citizenship.

Amanda Whips up the Rabble!
Once again, Amanda, with outright lies and half truths you've incited the lowest of the rabble to riot! The most outrageous charges are leveled without one iota of proof. The mental defectives on TH will happily embrace such clap-trap drivel...but I suspect they're going to be sorely disappointed come Election Day. You should be criminally prosecuted! I'd tear you apart on the witness stand when you were placed under oath.

Jim-Too

ACORN
The Obama camp has just come out with its position on ACORN. Yes, Obama was a member years ago, but he never inhaled.

THIS MAKES NO SENSE
The next reform of Congress should be for those receiving tax-exemptions. ACORN and this organization that continually pay fines and are allowed to benefit from tax backs because their status can never change dispite their continual accepts and acknowledgement of criminal activities. Obama worked directly with ACORN when he was a community organizer and was credited with signing up more new voters in the history of Chicago.

Republican advantages regarding ACORN
It's true that numerous fake names were written down on registration forms.
It's also true that it's against the law for those forms to not be turned in.
These registrations are flagged as potentially fake and are supposed to be screened to prevent the actual registration.

Any registration for "Mickey Mouse" is supposed to be denied as part of the screening process (which isn't done by ACORN) and it's highly unlikely that Mickey Mouse will be registered and casting any votes in November.

This "scandal" and "outrage" works for the Republicans in two ways.

This gives the Republican party justification to "contest" an election they're pretty sure they going to lose.

It also gives them the opportunity to have the registrations of voters by ACORN workers reevaluated and highly scrutinized.
This process will most likely result in numerous legitimate voter registrations being tossed out.

The Democrats should know better than to try and beat the Republicans at their own game of fixing elections.

Reply to John @ 2008/10/13 14:09
You wrote "0blahma's tax plan will give REFUNDS to people who DON'T PAY TAXES.

Let's call this for what it REALLY is... REPARATIONS!"

Wrong word; "reparations" means something paid to atone for an offence committed against the beneficiary (of the reparations). The word you were looking for is "welfare" (aka "rewarding the moocher") which can also be called "government dacoity" (robbing taxpayer to give money to non-taxpayer).

Well
When you have certain dems coming on here to defend ACORN, you know they have marching orders from Obama or HuffPo or DailyKoS. There is just so much evidence against ACORN yet you continue to try and defend them. Just like you will always try and defend Murtha or Ted Kennedy. Shameless...Democrat first, American Second.

Piltz13
"and it's highly unlikely that Mickey Mouse will be registered and casting any votes in November."

Is that so?

Let me ask...since the screening process is soo good you say. Why have more people been registered in Indianapolis than the population there?

Not vote? Its easy enough in most states. Show up with your dead uncles license and wham bam, you are him voting. You already registered him earlier as well.

The fact that you even speak like you do about this, shows a complete lack of common sense.

Piltz13
"and it's highly unlikely that Mickey Mouse will be registered and casting any votes in November."

Is that so?

Let me ask...since the screening process is soo good you say. Why have more people been registered in Indianapolis than the population there?

Not vote? Its easy enough in most states. Show up with your dead uncles license and wham bam, you are him voting. You already registered him earlier as well.

The fact that you even speak like you do about this, shows a complete lack of common sense.

You can tell that
ACORN is rife with liberal fraud by how strongly they are defended here


Acorn New Hire Dialogue
ACORN Manager: Welcome to our company, we're glad you chose us to serve your country. Your job will be to collect voter registrations. You have a quota, 20 per day.

New Hire: What if I can't get 20?

Mgr: Make the rest up, just separate them so we can use the invalid ones later.

New Hire: Isn't that illegal? Won't the government find out?

Mgr: No, we report a few from time to time to "cover our tracks". It isn't illegal when you're supporting your government is it? Just write obviously false names from time to time like Mickey Mouse so we can later claim that we pressured you to get more votes than possible. This makes both parties innocent.

New Hire: What do you do with the extras?

Mgr: Well, Barack Obama has paid us $800,000 to do "polling" and other "administrative tasks" so we'll send you to go vote for him with the false names later. Most places don't i.d. voters anyway. Also, we send in absentee ballots which require no identification at all.

New Hire: Sounds like cheating. I'm afraid I'll be caught.

Mgr: Oh no, it's not cheating when you're serving your country. If something happens that you do get caught, just tell them it was the pressure. Then you're innocent. Remember, most judges are bleeding heart liberals themselves and will understand your plight.

--Later, a phone call from New Hire to Mgr--

New Hire: I'm in jail for federal charges, help.

Mgr: I don't know you, if I did, your actions are inexcusable. Good bye.

Jim
Would you supply us a list of Amanda's in her column?

Rowly
There you go again asking libbers for proof. You ought to know by now that's as scarce as hens teeth!!

Jim
My request should have read. Would you supply us with a list of lies in Amanda's column?

eastlake joe
I flubbed my 4:18 PM post. That's the reason Jim hasn't supplied the list. When I first typed the post,I tried several times to post it and it wouldn't go. Typed it over several times.

That was about 10:00 AM. I am sure he will comply since I corrected it.....NOT!!

Rowly
Well it looks like you are right. Here I check back 1/2 hour later and I don't see a list. Of course I didn't really expect one so I'm not heart broken or anything like that!

F*** ACORN ....
and every Obama troll on this website right now!

Rise up brothers and sisters ... it is time to rage against the corrupt ...evil .... baby-killing LIBERAL political machine!

TO ARMS! TO ARMS! THE LIBERALS ARE COMING!


The Truth Hurts...
I assembled a damaging 1961-2008 "Obama Timeline" at: http://colony14.net/id41.html

Needless to say, I'm getting tremendous "hate e-mails" from leftists. They are all complaining and hurling insults, but NONE has refuted the facts as I presented them. I wonder why...

Telling the truth is NOT negative advertising or negative campaigning, it is merely revealing facts that the opponent and the media are choosing to hide. Needless to say, if McCain doesn't get tougher in the next two weeks, he will lose the election. If he loses, America loses.

The "Obama Timeline" at:
http://colony14.net/id41.html

and a list of "What Obama would do..." at:
http://colony14.net/id35.html


eastlake joe
They can talk the talk,but won't walk the walk. They just hit and run.

RICO for ACORN
ACORN should be prosecuted under the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations (RICO) law. Call you state Attorney General's office and demand they prosecute these crooks!

Turophile
Good idea on RICO for ACORN. As far as I can see this organization is completely corrupt and any voter registration that comes from them should be thrown away.

The fact that Obama is using them/paying them says much about his campaigning and his need to use voter fraud to get elected.
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