Who is he? Gary Johnson. He was left off the platform because the sponsors say he didn't meet their criteria: an average 2 percent showing in at least three opinion polls.
But I grilled him because I think people might want to hear from him.
When he was governor, he vetoed 750 bills and shed a thousand state jobs. That made Republican and Democratic politicians mad, but in a state with a two-to-one Democratic advantage, this Republican was re-elected.
"I got re-elected ... by saying no to the government," he told me. "I was a penny- pincher."
His political philosophy comes down to this:
"The government has a role to protect me against individuals that would do me harm -- whether that be property damage or physical harm. The federal government has an obligation to protect us against foreign governments that would raise arms again us. But beyond that, government does way too much."
What about education?
"The number one thing that the federal government could do to improve education in this country would be to eliminate the Department of Education (and) give education back to the states -- 50 laboratories of innovation ... ."
Johnson is not a social conservative, which leads some political observers to say he has no shot at the GOP nomination -- ever. He doesn't buy it.
"I respect the views of social conservatives," he said. Yet "I think that 60 percent of Americans describe themselves as fiscally conservative and socially liberal. I would argue that perhaps it's not socially liberal -- that it's really classically liberal, which is the notion that less government is better government, the notion that (the) best thing that the government can do for me is to let me be the individual that I might be."
He takes a position on the drug war that differs from most Republicans, though it's not fully libertarian.
"I would legalize marijuana. ... When it comes to all of the other drugs, we should look at the drug problem first as a health issue rather than a criminal justice issue."
Johnson believes the country is "just two years away from being at a tipping point" on marijuana.
"I have smoked marijuana. I have drunk alcohol, although I don't do either today," he said. "The big difference between marijuana and alcohol is that marijuana is a lot safer."
And what about foreign policy?
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