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Wednesday, March 18, 2009
Thomas Sowell :: Townhall.com Columnist
False Solutions and Real Problems
by Thomas Sowell
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Someone once said that Senator Hubert Humphrey, liberal icon of an earlier generation, had more solutions than there were problems.

Senator Humphrey was not unique in that respect. In fact, our present economic crisis has developed out of politicians providing solutions to problems that did not exist-- and, as a result, producing a problem whose existence is all too real and all too painful.

What was the problem that didn't exist? It was a national problem of unaffordable housing. The political crusade for affordable housing got into high gear in the 1990s and led to all kinds of changes in mortgage lending practices, which in turn led to a housing boom and bust that has left us in the mess we are now trying to dig out of.

Usually housing affordability is measured in terms of how much of the average person's income it takes to cover either apartment rent or a monthly mortgage payment.

There were certainly places here and there where it took half a family's income just to put a roof over their heads. Many such places were in coastal California but there were a few others, here and there, on the east coast and elsewhere.

But, vast areas of the country in between-- "flyover country" to the east coast and west coast elites-- had housing prices that took no larger share of the average American's income than in the decade before the affordable housing crusade got under way.

Why then a national crusade by Washington politicians over local problems? Probably as good an answer as any is that "It seemed like a good idea at the time." How are we to be kept aware of how compassionate and how important our elected officials are unless they are busy solving some problem for us?

The problem of skyrocketing housing prices was all too real in those places where this problem existed. When you have to live on half your income because the other half goes for housing, that's a real downer.

Almost invariably, these severe local problems had local causes-- usually severe local restrictions on building homes. These restrictions had a variety of politically attractive names, ranging from "open space" laws and "smart growth" policies to "environmental protection" and "farmland preservation."

Like most wonderful-sounding political slogans, none of these lofty goals was discussed in terms of that one four-letter word that people do not use in polite political society-- "cost."

No one asked how many hundreds of thousands of dollars would be added to the cost of an average home by "open space" laws, for example. Yet empirical studies have shown that land-use restrictions added at least a hundred thousand dollars to the average home price in dozens of places around the country.

In some places, such as coastal California, these restrictions added several hundred thousand dollars to the price of the average home.

In other words, where the problem was real, local politicians were the cause. National politicians then tried to depict this as a national problem that they would solve.

How would they solve it? By pressuring banks and other lenders to lower their requirements for making mortgage loans, so that more people could buy houses. The Department of Housing and Urban Development gave the government-sponsored enterprise Fannie Mae quotas for how many mortgages it should buy that were made out for people for low to moderate incomes.

Like most political "solutions," the solution to the affordable housing "problem" took little or no account of the wider repercussions this would entail.

Various economists and others warned repeatedly that lowered lending standards meant more risky mortgages. Given the complex relationships among banks and other financial institutions, including many big Wall Street firms, if mortgages started defaulting, all the financial dominoes could start falling.

These warnings were brushed aside. Politicians were too busy solving a national problem that didn't exist. In the process, they created very real problems. Now they are now offering even more solutions that will undoubtedly lead to even bigger problems.

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Politicians & problems
As with most situations, when the politicians get involved, the solutions are worse than the problem. Dr. Sowell does his usual, excellent job in pointing out how messed up our system is by allowing the politicians to stick their nose in where it does not need to be.

Can you imagine what our medical system will look like in ten years if the Obama bozos get ahold and take over the best medical care system the world has ever seen?

Yes
"Now they are now offering even more solutions that will undoubtedly lead to even bigger problems." That is what many don't understand. The solutions given to us so far will only make things worse. The Democrats cried and cried about Bush's deficit. Now that they are in charge no deficit is too big and no amount of spending is too much.

IT "IS" the Economy STUPID !

GOP plus the Independent conservatives need to get a spine.

1. fix the economy, according to the constitution: principles, standards, values, & character:

2. fix education from bottom to top !teach reading and writing, scrap all of the radical crap: break the union grip:

3. restore all rights and freedoms, self determination, personal responsibility ethics, a culture of character and rule of law!

4. national security at all levels. THE RULE OF LAW MUST BE RESTORED! illegal is an illegal!

right wing and moderates need to work with the Independents: Organize to elect "LEADERSHIP" NOT religious leaders! No single agenda idealist.

Palin has great principles, standards, HOWEVER: she is illiterate:bad grammar:her personal life is a perpetual soap opera. SHE IS NOT qualified to lead the greatest country in the WORLD.

Huckabee, wants to rule with religion, a proven biggot, will NOT FOLLOW the constitution to the letter. He picks and chooses.

Jindahl does not have the power, the experience, the force, the strength.

folks like McCain, Ron Paul are goofy to be charitable with zero to offer:

WE NEED: a proven experienced leader able to deflect the personal hits "PROVEN LEADERS" like a
Romney
a Jack Welch
although he is too old, Jeno Pallucci,
even a ROSS PEROT type.
Pence

someone with spine like, Pence, Grassley:

those who have been there done that and know how to "achieve" big things:

the conservative GOP is too obssessed with social issues that they cannot see the forrest.

They do NOT grasp that without strong basics you cannot inspire a moral culture.

Coulter, Rush, etc. "PRIVATE" citizens like HOLLYWOOD on the left are irrelevant: They talk about the news and make the news:

THE "CONSERVATIVES" GOP, RIGHT WING, MODERATES, all need to grow up:

They have zero organization

The Oil Companies Are Laughing!
Oil Company Execs are falling down laughing at this economic downturn, flush with their upfront profits to the tune of close to 200 billion they can afford to just sit back and watch the carnage, while quietly waiting for all the bailouts to finish, then jacking the price up to get their share.
Capitalism at it's best baby. yeah.

Bigbelly.... Huh?
you obviously don't know economics, oil history in the last 40 years and what it is that makes oil in the states so EXPENSIVE! We had a refinery open 15yrs ago in a town 20 minutes away that was affiliated with Standard Oil. It lasted 12yrs and they shut down because it couldn't make a profit. The yearly payments to the Federal & state EPA, DNR, and DEQ for all sorts of BS issues meant the leftovers were in the negative for what the current price the market could bear. If you actually looked at Mobil/Exxon's GDP the rise is within the normal range for growth. Their main reason for profits is that they have paid off significant debts like oil riggs, refineries and the Alaskan pipeline. It is like when you payoff your house and now it seems you have greater spending power with the increase of cash flow..... One other point that a CNN special pointed out was that speculators were the main push to get prices over the 3$ a gallon gas.

The Biggest Threat to America
The biggest threat to America is not middle eastern terrorists, but fat-assed politicians. These are the evil scum that should be interred at Gitmo and repeatedly waterboarded.

BIGbelly
BIGbelly, morons are not allowed to post on internet websites. So, please stop.

I have a plan
I have a plan that I have proposed a number of times over the years, but the present situation makes it much more appropriate and applicable. Using the expanded powers of eminent domain that the Kelo decision provided, we takeover the island of Lanai, I think Dole owns most of it anyway, or at least they used to. We hire Donald Trump to build luxury condos for every member of the House and the Senate. We'll throw in some golf courses, tennis courts, health spas, restaurants, etc. Given the population we're working with we'll probably have to include a supply of hookers.
After the swearing in ceremony for each new Congress we load them all on planes and send them to the island, where they'll be allowed to stay on people's dime with the clear understanding that if at any time they attempt to return to D.C. and introduce any legislation to fix our lives for us, their bill will become due and payable along with a 10000% nuisance tax. The initial capitalization will be heavy, but even with the ongoing expenses it'll be a drop in the bucket compared to the damage they can do to our prosperity if we leave them in Washington.

B2slim: nice dream
But its just a dream...

This mortgage system must change
When I was buying a house in 1983, I was advised to put down as little as possible. so if the house depreciates, I could default, and leave the loss to the bank. That was the American Way. Greedy, selfish.

in the 80s, we already had S&L crisis, because the banks made 30-year loans in the 70's at 3% int rate, yet they had to borrow at 12% int rate in the 80s to finance the loans.

This is the second time our nation is hurt by housing, the single biggest purchase 99% of citizens can make in his life time.

We all know that when something costs too much, the consensus is, the government should pay for it. It used to be health care. Now it's the loss of property values.

Therefore, we must prevent the mortgage system from becoming another financial melt down in the future. We must have laws to require 20% down payment on home mortgage. This will definitely stop people from defaulting.

Some may say this will price out many buyers. Not so. This will cause the demand to drop, and the price will drop too.

And why is it so bad for people to delay living in the house for a few years? What's wrong with living in an apartment? Americans are so spoiled. Living in an apartment and saving money will certainly give them a chance to learn some financial discipline.

BIGbelly
Is your screen name a description of you? Are you obese? If so, who is to blame? The oil companies? Bush? CEO's and their bonuses?

Hey David
Excellant points, but summer is coming and with high demand, comes higher prices, and for the last two years straight, up until the housing bubble burst, prices skyrocketed around the country. Energy cost accounted for just under 40% of take home pay for folks comuting to work over large distances. People living way beyond their means in houses they couldn't afford definitely is one of the triggers of this crisis, another was Big Oil, they're in no way obligated to keep prices steady, we get it, their product is a necessity so they can and will set the price to suit their needs, until a replacement product comes along, we are at their mercy, just hope they use vaseline this summer.

OF TRUTH AND LIES
Truth--The government, which included barry and congress KNEW about AIGs bonuses LAST YEAR and when they'd start being paid out.

Lie--barry and congress insist they didn't KNOW about these bonuses.

Truth--AIG has been given over 100 BILLION taxpayers dollars, which AIG has given most of this, OUR TAX DOLLARS, (over 60 BILLION) to OTHER COUNTRIES.

Lie--barry and congress maintain the government MUST 'bailout' failing companies to STIMULATE AMERICAS economy.

Truth--Over 8500 EARMARKS, LOBBYISTS in high government positions, less than 24 hours to read and understand a 1100 page 'stimulus' bill before voted on, a TAX CHEAT heading the Treasury Department and numerous other tax cheat appointees, a SOCIALIST as the head of the EPA and an Immigration Amnesty SUPPORTER as head of Homeland Security.

Lie--barry stated PROMISES and PROMISED 'CHANGE' of NO EARMARKS, NO LOBBYISTS, TRANSPARENCY and the HIGHEST ETHICS and that government would WORK for WE the PEOPLE.

barry and the government have been quite successful in getting the majority of Americans to swallow and believe their 'LIES' BEFORE the 'TRUTH' comes to light.



LIE--

Hey Doug!
I wasn't blaming anyone I was merely pointing out that Big Oil is laughing all the way to the bank. And was one of the triggers leading up to this economic downturn.
Yes I know, Big Oil have massive cost to deal with but you've got to admit profits are at obscene levels and who am I to question or state the obvious.
I'm just a bigbellied moran with an opinion, which, like a**holes everyone has.
However Doug, sorry, I'm not obese just a tad overweight with a beer gut and I know you probably into that kind of thing, but I'm not. I have a wife and girlfriends with benefits and they all know each other, which reminds me I have to pick up a case of viagra at the pharmacy.

BIGbelly
If you think the profits of the oil companies are excessive, then don't use their products. People survived for thousands of years without them. And no, I'm not into men with beerbellies. I prefer physically fit females. And I don't need viagra because I am very physically fit, with a flat, hard abdomen at 49. As for your lifestyle of multiple sex partners, I have to feel sorry for the women who think so little of themselves that they would let a man use them like that.

Unintended Consequences

Few politicians in general and scarcely any that are of the liberal mindset bother themselves with attempting to determine what unintended consequences might result from the emotional legislative flings. We are buried in them now and digging out might be impossible.
When hospital locations are changed because of threatened plant growth and homes can't be built because some technicality can't seem to be met (thus stopping a development that is nearly finished in its tracks) the price of living continues to climb.
You've brought up points I hadn't thought of and I know the prescience of political children is not capable of descerning.
Good column.

djaces
Good Plan

If anyone thinks...
...that the oil companies are making excessive profits,I have some good news for you:Their stock is for sale every day,Monday through Friday,on the New York stock exchange.

Now go and become rich!

Jenny
What country are you talking about?

Mortgage int rates in the 70's for 30 yr fixed ran from 7-11% and even higher in the 80's and early 90's. I find it hard to believe that a mortgage lender in 1983 failed to tell you that you would still be financially responsible for the difference if you had allowed your mortgage to default.

They probably were trying to explain the "value of money" to you. Borrow 1983 dollars pay back 1984-2013 dollars that are worth less each year.

The rapid housing growth in the 70's and 80's was triggered by baby boomers buying their first houses. The 73 million boomers, all born within 10 years, have been driving markets since the day we were born.

Then just as now, the S&L crisis was a product of government allowing unqualified thrifts to operate outside the normal banking rules just like Fannie and Freddie now.

Government Solutions?
One of the best quotes around:

GOVERNMENT: if you think the problems we create are bad, just wait until you see our solutions.

Sowell nails it again. Just wish he was a politician.

Regards

The return of reason--maybe
Thank you Thomas Sowell, again the voice (and one of the few we have) of reason.

The fact that we are having these lively discussions gives me hope. Leave it to a crisis of incredible size and scope to force people into discussion. All of the long held and cherished beliefs of both liberals and so-called conservatives are being examined and questioned and the motives of the politicians we elect are now under scrutiny. This is a good thing.

The philosophy of Rand and the writings of great and (until lately) largly forgotten men like Sowell, Hayek, Rothbard, and Von Mises (yes I am leaving out a few) are coming back into vogue the same way they do every time a crisis comes along. Will we finally take their advice and wisdom? Not yet, but like alcoholics who hit bottom and have no other choice but to reform maybe we will soon. I hope so.

But,
But if politicians stopped manufacturing problems to solve we ordinary workers and peasants might discover that we could get along just fine without them.

That would be horrible! They'd have to get real jobs and *gasp* work for a living!

John - Reason
The problem with hitting rock bottom is a RECOGNITION by the offender that he is at rock bottom and he caused his own demise. I am struggling to believe that any of our liberal politicians, both R & D, will actually take that responsibility.

I think the citizens may be getting to that point, but as long as we keep sliding to the left politically, it will be much harder to turn the ship around and get it moving in the right direction.

Regards

djaces
I would happily pay my taxes if it meant getting Congress the f*** out of the country!

MNDuck
"Sowell nails it again. Just wish he was a politician."

No, you don't. Then, he'd turn into one of the blood sucking leeches as well. I think people need to stop putting trust in ANY politician so dang much (here that, you Ron Paul crowd???).

They're politicians for God's sake! It's their job to get elected. You don't get high in the chain without skeletons in the closet.

This is probably the biggest weakness with conservative voters. They're under the delusion that some of the GOP representatives are "good people".

The very fact that they would even WANT this job, in my opinion, disqualifies them from having. Catch 22, but still...power is best suited for those not looking for it.

JP @ 7:46
Actually, I do. I believe that Dr. Sowell is a man of high character and integrity as well as economically brilliant and would bring some common sense to Washington.

I am sorry that you consider it a weakness for me to consider my rep (John Kline) to be a good person. Please check his record and see what, if anything, disturbs you.

Where my problem lies is with "do-gooder" liberal politicians, both R & D. As naive as it may be, I do believe that there are some politicians who are doing what they do for the right reasons and are not self-aggrandizing. Small number, yes, but still out there nonetheless.

Regards

Mother of 4 proves once again that
the ladies always get it right..the conservative ones that is.

There is no reason for these clowns to be in DC full time. The system wasn't designed that way. The more time they spend there, the more stupid ideas they think up to keep getting re-elected and living large on our dime.

Instead of buying them an island, we need to show up in DC with a barrel of tar and a few bags of feathers and run these miserable corrupt SOB's out of town on a rail.

bawny fwank and dodd should be impeached and jailed for their role in this housing debacle, to see these morons railing against something that they created is beyond belief, what chutzpah.

They put on this dog and pony show to distract us from what's really going on here...a power grab of monumental proportions..the gov't now owns 80% of AIG, most of these idiots couldn't balance a checkbook, who is going to run it? The "experts" took their "retainer bonus" and moved on to greener pastures, they're gone.

Home ownership is something one earns, not something to be given to people simply because some liberal feels bad for them and thinks it isn't "fair".

There used to be rules for things like this, but liberals are children, they must have instant gratification even if it destroys the work ethic and the rest of us get stuck with the bill.

Perhaps we do not need them very much
Maybe we should get rid of the Representatives paycheck, retirement and healthcare packages and they should not get together very often. Nothing to do and too much time on their hands makes for great mischief.

In this day and age where we have computers and conference calls. I just don't see the need for Washington D.C.

Big B
I have little green men planting weeds in my garden at night.

Except maintenance people
We need landscapers and painters to take care of the Memorials and gardens. That's it.

Thomas Sowell is a joke
Give me a break. If this whole mess were contained to just the relatively few foreclosures, this problem would not be threatening to wipe out the world financial system.

The problem is so huge because banks were allowed to leverage themselves 30 to 1. Had they been kept to a standard of 10-1, our problems would be about 20 times less than they currently are.

And who allowed them to go to 30-1? The bankers convinced Bush, in 2003 that it would be okay.

In other words, the problem was not government, it was greedy, reckless, stupid bankers conmined with a weak goverment.

This column should enough to convince anyone that Thomas Sowell is not worth listening to.

Open space laws?!

Are you kidding me?

If that adds up to 1% of the housing bubble I would be shocked.

Banks and mortgage companies were throwing money at consumers and offering them way more than they could afford. They didn't do that because government told them to. They did it because they were greedy, reckless and stupid.

This problem was created by excesses of free market capitalism, and everyone but the GOP seems to realize that.

This entire column is preposterous. Thomas Sowell should do the world a favor and just shut the hell up.

Phylo out.

Phylo dough: You obviously do NOT

realize that posts such as yours (#31) rat you out for the truly intellectually limited liberal idiot YOU ARE!

It's clear that you just don't "understand" what Dr. Sowell is saying, so therefore you react with ignorance...


Philo is a JOKE
What exactly about Dr.Sowell's article do you find hard to fathom? The arguements are powerful enough to have a troll like you come here to try and argue against it with your false assertions. I think any reader with any knowledge of Dr. Sowell's reputation is perfectly capable of seeing that Dr. Sowell's article nails the main points that have gotten us into the mess we are currently in. I suggest you go back to Democratic/Socialist central and tell the Obamamites that the truth is getting out and the people are angry.

Conservatives
The excesses can be solved only by Conservatives gaining control of the House in 2010. No more Obama/Bush types.

Bingo again!
Right on, Dr. Sowell.

Thanks for a great article

It is hard to fathom that such
clarity is not understood plainly by the leftists unless you come to the conclusion that leftists simply want to destroy success. They have the maturity of a 5 year old.

Anne
Haven't you learned that I don't bother reasoning with people as hard headed, ignorant and vulgar as you?

If you believe that this financial crisis is the fault of Barney Frank and open space laws, you are too stupid to argue with.

Congress doesn't want success
The left has wanted the destroy the US for a century.

They now get a shot at bankrupting Am. through borrowing, destroying the middle class through inflation and ruining the market (The Big O is not invested in the stock market), and taxing private business out of existence.

The Dems. have a website decrying the Reps.' "No's," but they should say no and keep saying no, as this admin's ideas will not relieve recession and are meant to deepen depression.

Bush should shut up and obey the time-honored practice of former pres. not interfering with sitting pres. If Bush had let Treasury with its $1 trillion credit solve the the banking issue last summer, we would not have let loose Cong. into this mess we have now.

I want my money back, too. The AIG bonuses were previous contractual obligations that CONGRESS specifically allowed in the “stimulus” law that Senator Christopher Dodd (D-Conn) specifically added in an executive-compensation restriction to the bill. That amendment provides an “exception for contractually obligated bonuses agreed on before Feb. 11, 2009” — which exempts the very AIG bonuses Dodd and others are now seeking to tax.

But Dodd and the rest of the pack in DC get “free” limos and town cars for $2.56 BILLION a year (Citizens Against Government Waste), get “free” Air Force flights—while demanding crews standby for hours and days (Nancy Pelosi-let her ride coach), free haircuts, free US mail, cheap meals (let them eat at McDonald’s), and live like little kings and queens at our expense while castigating business which is what makes the wealth of this country.

Send President Obama a tea bag on April 1 to let Washington know that NOTHING is free and more debt to an enemy like China will help turn the US into another third world country begging continuously for aid and support.

Good!
Very clear and concise article Dr. Sowell.

ECO 101 for everyone
Dr. Sowell, your column should be required reading in every college in America (high schools too, for that matter).


laughable - Phylo Se Fiser
came across this post:

Posted by: Phylo Se Fiser | May 24, 2007 2:59:44 PM

Obama is nothing but an empty suit......

at least Edwards offers substance. He just doesn't offer empty rhetoric, which is all I see from Obama...

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2007/05/obama_has_h is_o.html

THE GREAT DEPRESSION OF THE 1920S

Has Apollo lost his mind? The Great Depression occurred in the 1930s started by the tax, spend and protectionist policies of progressive Republican President Herbert Hoover and prolonged by FDR’s Keynesian tax and spend New Deal extravaganza.

But what if Roosevelt in 1920 had gotten his wish and convinced Herbert Hoover to run for the Democratic presidential nomination with himself as Hoover’s running mate ? What if FDR’s dream ticket had materialized and he and Hoover went on to defeat Harding and Coolidge in the general election, what then? How would these two Progressives have dealt with the deep recession they would have inherited from Wilson?

For the answer click ApolloSpeaks and read the rest of The Great Depression of the 1920s.




Oh My ! Phylo Se Fiser
came across this post:

Welcome to elephantslayer.com.

Are you tired of seeing bogus Republican arguments win over the hearts and minds of too many of our fellow citizens? Well, this is the place where bogus Republican arguments come to die. I'll select a few of the bogus Republican arguments of the day, and the I'll break down why the arguments are bogus. I'm new at this whole blogging thing, so we'll see how it goes.

I also like to harass right wing columnists over at townhall.com under the pen name Phylo Se Fiser, which is a reference to the fact that I am an amateur philosopher. I'm currently working on a book that will correct the metaphysical problems underlying most of Western philosophy. I'll make some of that available as soon as I can figure out how to do that.

Looking forward to any comments. I love a good debate.

Matt Mullen

Posted by Matt Mullen at 2/4/2009 9:36 AM | Add Comment

http://blog.elephantslayer.com/

When your only tool is a hammer ...
Our local State Senator, Joe Simitian, each year has a contest for his constituents. The contest asks them to come up with a new law which Senator Simitian can try to implement.

Senator Simitian is a perfect example of the old adage ... "when your only tool is a hammer, all problems look like a nail". He is a career politician with advanced degrees in public administration. His solution to all problems is more legislation.

He's a man on the move -- expect to hear more from Senator Joe!

Phylo Se Fiser
Let me ask you something, Phylo:

Do you know for an absolute fact that this IS a huge deal that is "threatening to wipe out the world financial system"?

Do you know the real numbers of how many homes are actually in foreclosure? Do you know the actual numbers of unemployment?

Or, are you just listening to what the liberal politicians are saying? According to Nancy Pelosi, we're losing 500 million jobs a month. Interesting...especially seeing as how only 300 million people live in America. And I know that I still have a job.

"threatening to wipe out the world financial system"?? Really?

Thank You Dr. Sowell
Philo must be al franken in disguise. Do you think?

Thanks Dr Sowell. It's like, 'There must be a fire somewhere, we are all out marshaling out forces across America to find it and put it out.

Column of 18 Mar 2009
I wish Mr.Sowell would have been more specific as to who and what exactly caused this mess. Don't you think there should be a heavy price for what's happened, rather than business as usual from the very people who caused it?

The better solver
In a psychology course, I learned about our hierarchy of desires. This drives us to solve problems based on this priority.

Once the survivor problems are solved, we move to the nice to have. After that, we feed on ourselves to solve problems not there.

The job of Congress is to solve problems that keep people from surviving. Because they don't see directly these problems, they believe the problems are bigger and darker than they are. And, they believe they can solve these problems much better than the people with the problems.

Their goal is to eradicate all problems of their contituents. Solving these problems, they have solved their core problem of getting re-elected.

Solving leads to struggles, which has made self-made entrepreneurs.

Economic problems are solved by the market or by congress getting out of the way. In some cases, congress has to get involve to undo damage they have done -- up-tick, fanny, freddie, prime loans, and adding regulations, rather than enforcing regulations.

This strong desire to solve our problems makes our market works so well.

Can you imagine keeping the baby from struggling to walk?


On a similar self-struggle, I learned something interesting about speed reading. We slow down our reading because we believe we have not soaked it all in. In reality, our brains adapt and pick up more, the more we give it.


Democrats say tax cuts is tired method that does not work. Right, 51 months continuous production growth after the Bush tax cuts is a big problem.

Tax cuts allows companies to offer more jobs, which helps the people solve their own problems. The government solving the problem by giving them a $13 tax cut will make them feel better, but because the congress is not directly involved in the result, they will never know the damage that they added -- the hope the problem will go away without any struggle.

It seems that what is going on is ...
is more of a GroupThink. Many people just want to be aligned with the crowd, and they read the current situation to be, "Liberals are in Control," and they want to be on the winning team, and get some pie. Maybe that is a good description of a Not Think. But some non-thinkers are starting to recognize what they voted for is not so good for them, and are beginning to realize they have been tricked. Their current thought must be, What can do now to make things more favorable for me? Others may still not be thinking.

B2Slim (#3) is an interesting post in that it pretty well portrays the GOP as it is today and describes what they need to do. But from there, the analysis of the leading candidates is way off. A few more months of this leadership in Washington and just everyone will be affected in some way, and even the non-thinkers will be able to see it for what it is. This must be the HOPE and CHANGE part.

The question remains, what do the Republicans need to do to oppose the leadership and render them ineffective, and specifically, what to do about those in control? If the Republicans DO HAVE A PLAN, I certainly hope that they would NOT publicize it widely, so that the administration could counter it before it became effective. So for a while, they have to talk up what is really happening (not what they are going to do about it).

It's humorus
to see realllly "amateur philosophers" attempt to contradict time proven principles with illogical leftist drivel. What is dangerous is people who lack the ability of cogent thinking to buy their drivel.

To illustrate the point; as bad as Bush II's spending began to cause our debt to climb over eight years, in just 50 DAYS, Obama and the Dems have made Bush's extravagace at taxpayer's expense seem like penny pinching.

It's no more complicated than looking at the economic state of individual cities and states and examining the philosophy of those running them to see which economic philosophy, capitalsim or socialism, better promotes prosperity and opportunity for its citizens, and which breeds lawlessness and debt.

Look at states like Calif., which used to be a desirable place to live. Now, because the incompetent democrat (yeah I know it's an oxymoron) run legislature has spent the state into bankruptcy, causing 27,000 millionaires to flee to Arizona, Arnold has to do television ads for people to come to Calif.

Instead of using common sense and reducing the size of government and taxes to actually attract business (tax and job generators) they increase the number of state employees and raise taxes. Could someone explain the logic to me?

Single Sponsors
Some of the sponsors of the Freebie Savings and Loan are dimwitted proponents of no-accountability laws, so that individuals can buy homes. The idea of a single individual buying a home is ok - but there's no special right for them to do so. Make enough money, and go for it.

But you know how that is - it was a special pleading for people who won't engage in social contracts (sometimes called "marriage," otherwise called "domestic partnerships.")
Same people think they ought to have the right to bring up a child alone, or to adopt - again, alone. The housing crisis is in part a problem begun by these demands, from those loud, obnoxious elements.

Just wait until the other shoe drops, as kids raised by self-absorbed narcissists (and histrionics and Borderline PD-types) begin to descend upon society, preying upon those who thought mortgage engineering and social engineering were both fine concepts.



Phylo the fool
Pretty easy to sling venom isn't it Phylo? You are the proof in the pudding, you are not the exception to the rule-you are the rule. You are the stunted poppy that cuts the tall poppy down. You can't live in the shadow of anyone who achieves or wants to achieve. For your information sir only in a free market, Capitalist society can people such as yourself have freedoms. Freedom of thought follows freedom of trade. Those who despise wealth and prosperity will have none.(thats you Phylo)

I'm not reduced to winning an argument by calling someone stupid, you poor stunted poppy.

Sowell Speaks the Truth
Once again, Dr. Sowell speaks the truth in plain language. Once again, we have politicians trying to create a government "solution" to a problem they caused in the first place. Powerful politicians in Washington became obsessed with "affordable housing" because so many of the most powerful come from states with out-of-control housing costs, like New York and California. Others put in place ridiculous, risky mortgage programs so that people who shouldn't own houses could own houses. They then sent regulators out to the banks to be sure these programs were enforced. For many years the regulators weren't looking for us to be financially solvent and make prudent lending decisions, they were just looking for the proper mix of "diversity" and minority lending. We would all be better off if the government just got the heck out of the way!

Phylo
is a phool

Gee I wonder...
what the huge amounts of land it is going to take to put in wind and solar, that can only cover at maximum 12% of the country's energy needs, is going to do to land values?

The Happy Warrior & Adlai
'Twas Adlai Stevenson who said Hubert Humphrey had more solutions than there were problems.

It was a great line.

But when Stevenson died, it was said that the ONLY book in his bedroom was the New York Social
Directory.

Go figure. Times wounds all heels!

TRAITORS - How to deal with them...
There are certain rules of law that address how
to deal with someone who betrays his country:
1) A complaint is filed 2) A trial is held 3) The sentence or judgement is executed. If ANY of
our military people returning from a mission,
and subsequently debreifed, were found to have
betrayed the trust of their unit, or to have
done something that gave ANY comfort to the
enemy, they would be put on trial for TREASON.
As far as I know (having served in Vietnam) the
penalty for a guilty verdict is still DEATH...
Why, then, do we not hold our political "lead-
ers" to the same standard that they hypocritic-
ally apply to our military personnel?? What
would happen if a group of us filed a real com-
plaint against such people as Franks, Dodd, Reid, Pelosi, and Obama accusing them of high
treason?
After all, actions speak louder than words,
and, far as I can see, each of these people
has made more than a liar of themselves - they
have actually engaged in unconstitutional and
unlawful acts to be found TREASONOUS.
Once found guilty, it wouldn't take too much
to actually REVERSE the damaging bills they've
already passed, based upon their criminal act-
ivity... Of course, the same standards apply to
BOTH sides of the politcal isle.
This seems to be the only viable recourse
available to us in this situation to effect any
REAL SOLUTION in this world. If it seems to be
"too much", then the ONLY other remedy is to
look to God to solve it, which He is going to do
whether anyone likes it or not...
In the meantime, let's get real about calling
a spade a spade and a traitor a TRAITOR!

Dr. Sowell's analysis
It seems that every time I read one of Dr. Sowell's insightful comments on the rampant economic idiocy in our government, I wonder what it is like to be that voice "crying out in the wilderness" with solutions, warnings, and advice that, if heeded, would eliminate much of the destruction wrought by government. Dr. Sowell is one of the few who knows exactly what Cassandra felt like.

Necessary correction
Phylo Se Fizer:

"Haven't you learned that I don't bother reasoning..."

STOP. At that point we get "Phylo out" and a disappearance except for the occassional insult.

Snooper
Great anecdote about Stevenson. I hadn't heard of that one. Just more proof about how it is the Dems and the liberals who are the true elitists in our society.

They claim to be so compassionate and caring about the less fortunate at the same time planning their next wine and cheese party. Of course the people they claim to care about would be the last to get a invite to their social circle.

Another good story about Stevenson I read here at Townhall some time back:

It seems that during one of Adlai Stevenson's campaigns a woman came up to him and told him how excited she was that he was running and that all her friends were going to vote for him. With a pained expression on his face he thanked her but said he needed a lot more votes than that.

Of course in our time the liberal elites suckered their less fortunate "friends" into voting for the Anointed One. Is it possible they learned a lesson from the Stevenson failure?

Phylo's true purpose at TH
This is from his blog :

"I also like to harass right wing columnists over at townhall.com under the pen name Phylo Se Fiser,

Posted by Matt Mullen at 2/4/2009 9:36 AM | Add Comment"

http://blog.elephantslayer.com/

Obama, the new mechanic
I drive an old car and grew tired of my old car mechanic. I met with a new mechanic who told me how much better he was than my old mechanic. How he could change my old car like a new car. This gave me hope I thought I could believe in. So, I switched to the new car mechanic. After looking at my car he gave me an estimate of the cost to get the car back into tip-top shape. The estimate was high but he told me how bad the car was so it would cost a lot to fix it. I paid this new, this changed mechanic upfront in full.

The next week I went to the mechanic to see what progress he was making on my car. The new mechanic said my old mechanic had reaaly screwed up my car. Whenever I asked this new mechanic about his progress fixing my car, the new mechanic said how much the old mechanic screwed up my car and he didn't do it. Then, the new mechanic said it would cost more to fix my car. I paid him some more money to do the job.

The next week I went to the mechanic to see what progress he was making on my car. He said my old mechanic had really, really screwed up my car. When I asked this new mechanic when the car would be fixed, the new mechanic said the old mechanic screwed the car up, not him, he didn't do it.

Obama is the change mechanic I hoped could do what he said he could. However, I'm beginning to think Obama has actually talked himself into a job, the presidency, that is above his pay grade ... and competence!

When Phylo
attempts to match wits with Dr. Sowell, It's like putting Peewee Herman in the ring with Lenox Lewis.

Oil Profits
Earlier, a fellow called Big Belly fell victim
to myths about the oil bidness. Let me clarify what really goes on.

In producing oil-----just getting it out of the ground-----marginal costs are the LOWEST costs incurred. Marginal costs happen when the only thing you have to do is run the pump on schedule.

And that is the ONLY time you get any revenue at all. So if pumping costs are $8 a barrel and the selling price is $40 a barrel, it looks like you are making profits of four times your cost.

However, if you take total costs and pro-rate them per barrel (the IRS frowns upon this)
you will come up with a figure of somewhere between $35 and $55 a barrel. Now your $40 a barrel selling price is either minimal profits or a true loss.

And we have not talked about debt service and various and sundry taxes levied upon the way.

We are damned lucky to have a domestic oil industry left. The Obamaroids seem determined to change all of that.

I wish he and them miserable failure.

The final straw !!
those cheating thugs that helped cheat bo into power aholecorn are going to cheat their way onto the 2010 census ! This is it, is time for all country loving Americans to organize and stop these degenerates from perpetrating their abuse on US, we must join together in all communities and work against this !

This is what bo and his associates are all about, all the cheating and abuse they can get away with while bo puts on the "nice guy" act !
Don't let this happen, work against it !


Make Jamie Gorelick, Raines Pay us back
View this important video to see how democrats responded to our looming banking and credit crisis we have today:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MGT_cSi7Rs

Numerous democrats blocked attempts to confront the impending banking system crash. Bush, McCain and other Republicans attempted to get the democrat controlled congress to take protective actions.

democrats responded in two ways. In the government, democrats blocked efforts to head off the crisis. Outside government, other democrats responded by personally profitting from the mortgage crisis.

democrats raked in multi-million dollar paydays like, Jamie Gorelick, by using their clout with the DNC to help Freddie Mac and Fannie May to cook their books. By the way, Jamie Gorelick is the one who established the "wall of separation" between the CIA and the FBI making the 9/11 terrorist attacks possible.

http://inzax.us/2008/09/17/jamie-gorelick-clinton-crony/

"Gorelick also served on the board of directors of Fannie Mae, and was part of the accounting cook booking scheme which has resulted in hundreds of billions of dollars in losses and is now owned by the taxpayer...Gorelick, a democrat politician, pocketed $26 million from her Fannie Mae affiliation."

Frank Raines, another democrat, raked in $90 million in pay to cook the books for democrats and ACORN:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/09/how_close _are_raines_and_obama.html

"He (Frank Raines) was accused of manipulating earnings statements so he could be paid bonuses to which he was not entitled. In July, Mr. Raines was interviewed by Anita Huslin, a business reporter for the Washington Post."


what me! no problems
From hookers to steriods, congress has a history of idiots in charge leading to nowhere. for every problem they solve, 2 more come up.

More to come
As an actuarial reinsurance analyst, I came to be very familiar with 'captive reinsurers' whose sole purpose and origination was to provide backing or reserves for another financial institution. These captive reinsurers backed a good deal of the institution's risk with, you guessed it, mortage based securities.

The reinsurance industry is notorious for being convoluted and poorly managed due to a lack of functional systems that can handle (let alone automate) reinsurance administration and tracking. Many reinsurance contracts are very complex and risk spread so diversely, yet reinsurance is neglected at most companies (due to management ignorance of anything not sales or marketing related) they don't have the resources to regularly evaluate their actual risk.

I guarantee we have only seen the beginning of the damage these bad mortage risks can do. Reinsurance will lead the next phase of this crisis.

We need a government program...
...to solve the overabundance of government programs. Today, I'm going to download as many programs into my computer as it takes to solve my loss of memory problems.

Amy, what are "Derivatives?"
Last week in a TH column, Tony Blankley, wrote this about the looming and potential danger of the world derivatives market:

"...The great whispered-about possible crisis that financiers and governments around the world shudder over is what to do about the more than quadrillion (thousand trillion)-dollar notional value of the world's derivatives (what Warren Buffett called the financial WMD) -- should that notional number become crystallized and, thus, real.

By comparison, the U.S. gross domestic product is $14 trillion; the U.S. money supply is $15 trillion. The GDP of the entire world is $50 trillion; the real estate of the entire world is $75 trillion; the world's stock and bond markets are worth about $100 trillion.

The notional $1.14 quadrillion (as reported by the Bank for International Settlements, which is in Switzerland) only becomes real (and frightfully dangerous) if either counterparty to a derivative goes bankrupt and if the defaulter is a major institution. Then it would start a cascade of cross-defaults that might well infect and bring down the world financial system.

It may well be that the U.S. government has put up $180 billion to sustain the solvency of AIG because of AIG's derivatives holdings. Our government may well need to spend trillions more before this is over on other tainted institutions and hope that is enough to hold off the derivatives catastrophe..."

http://townhall.com/columnists/Column2.aspx?UrlTitle=obama_ leverages_his_political_risk_in_first_50_days&ns=TonyBlankl ey&dt=03/11/2009&page=full&comments=true&submitted=true

"In Thinking They Became Wise..
They Became Fools."

This is straight out of the Bible, and applies directly to what we are seeing today. These politicians are power mongers. Plain, and simple. They think they are smarter than the American public, and the fundamental market dynamics themselves. They played with fire, and they got burned. Now, the taxpayers, will be paying for it. But wait, it doesn't stop there. They are about to play with fire again by toying with all these new programs and ridiculous spendulous bills, most notably the nationalized healthcare.

"As a dog returns to it's vomit, a fool repeats his folly" Another verse straight from the Bible. These idiots are about to repeat the same mistakes that got us into the mess. They simply will not learn, and they are taking all of us down with them. You liberals and so called "conservatives" need to wake the f*ck up.

Derivatives
That's one part of the problem, derivatives are just the pysical act of VALUING the risk based on something else (futures, options). We've got entire blocks of business (insurance contracts, mortages, auto loans, investments, etc) BACKED by a variety of sources that are almost impossible to track down. So we've got a two pronged issue, only one of which has become obvious.

We've already been hit with the derivatives(reinsurance comes into play somewhat with derivatives, because you value your business based on how much of that risk you can spread around or how much less reserve you need to hold). But we have yet to feel the wrath of the effects of this on those acting as reinsurers for other companies' business (which is a massive number of medium to large sized insurance companies and banks).

Is This The Beginning???
Army Investigating How and Why Troops Were Sent Into Alabama Town After Murder Spree
Wednesday, March 18, 2009
By Pete Winn, Senior Writer/Editor




U.S. Army soldiers from Ft. Rucker patrol the downtown area of Samson, Alabama after a shooting spree March 10, 2009. (Photo: Reuters/Mark Wallheiser. Used by permission. )(CNSNews.com) - The U.S. Army has launched an inquiry into how and why active duty troops from Fort Rucker, Ala., came to be placed on the streets of Samson, Ala., during last week's murder spree in that tiny South Alabama community. The use of the troops was a possible violation of federal law.

“On March 10, after a report of an apparent mass murder in Samson, Ala., 22 military police soldiers from Fort Rucker, Ala., along with the provost marshal, were sent to the city of Samson,” Harvey Perritt, spokesman for the U.S. Army Training and Doctrine Command (TRADOC) at Fort Monroe, Va., told CNSNews.com on Monday.

The Lobotomy of Washington
I believe that we should take notice of the lobotomy that seems to take place when a newly elected congressman steps inside the Beltway for the first time.One possible cure would be an ankle alarm that would set off a piercing squeal if said congressman allowed any lobbyist within the congressman's free zone of 100 yards. This same alarm would sound if and when the congressman chose to stay in Washington during recess and did not return to his district to receive voting instructions from his constituents. I have additional ideas such as a poison syringe that would be activated if any type of unseamly threat against any intern was detected and would make impotent said legislator for a period not to exceed maximum term limits of 8 years. Harsh, perhaps, but needed, yes! I'm sure that there would be many additional uses of the ankle alarm but these are just a few to start. Yours for a more representative government.

First do no harm!
You'd think progressives would be hip to Hippocrates, and his admonition to physicians.

Nah. That would require thought. Liberals are all about emotional cosmic justice, uber alles.

Right, Snooper
I am a Boomer generation retiree with a personal experience of the elitism and hypocricy of, yes, the Stevenson supporters!

I grew up in the 1950's in small "progressive" northeast college town. My father was a Depression-poor, pro-labor, New Dealer Democrat in college, but after he married my mother, he had a typical odyssey. (A conservative is a liberal who was mugged.)

Dad took over my mother's family business, an open shop with 167 employees at the time. Jimmy Hoffa of the Teamsters Union and the Afl-CIO began the campaign to unionize the workers. A few wrenches in the machinery later, a few burned delivery trucks, a few rocks thrown through the picture window of our home, a few threats against our family's safety, a few holdout employees beaten to a pulp behind the plant, a few store owners browbeaten into dropping our product, and the plant was unionized and Dad became a convert to Republicanism.

(Don't allow card check to go through! Secret votes are intimidating enough. Moles are everywhere in the shop.)

An an aside, some of my friends' parents were college professors and avid supporters of Adlai Stevenson. "Compassionate" liberals. They bought our major competitor's product (Wonder Bread) It was two cents a loaf cheaper.

My family business was the second largest employer in a town of 25,000. WONDER if their liberal grandkids are among those who rail about Wall Mart ruining Mom and Pop businesses. WONDER if they support those local businesses, or if they pass the hypocritical behavior on from one generation to the next.

I support Wall Mart, by buying a TV and a toaster, and I also support local businesses in my very small town.

Great article again!
Dr. Sowell tells it like it is and is a voice of reason in an insane world.
The lefties just don't get it. The one institution that screws up everything they touch is the one lefties want to run everything. Stop the insanity already. Nancy Pelosi is a freakin' moron. Barney Franks and Chris Dodd are arrogant and corrupt.
Matt from AZ, you nailed it on the head!

BeCareful,Populist Thinking Is Mob Logic
larry22 offers, "It may well be that the U.S. government has put up $180 billion to sustain the solvency of AIG because of AIG's derivatives holdings."

I think this is a bit of broad brush populism. The world is having a financial crisis over property values, not all values. Property is the one commodity that everyone banked on not ever declining.

Fannie and Freddie are the root cause of most of this. Instead of being run by Capitalists for profits, they are being run by politicians for votes. Instead of "low risk mortgages" as being the standard, we have "affordable housing" as the standard.

So, with the US Government, by proxie, backing risky mortgages, risky mortgages became legal tender throughout the world. After all, in finance, is there no safer bet than the US housing market, backed by the US Government?

When the trillions of dollars dissappeared out of the US housing market values, the world suffered. Big deal! Let it fall!

Oil dropped by half in 6 months and deriviatives had winners and losers all over the place, yet no one failed. It happens all the time. Oil derivatives are still going strong.

World dairy markets fell, also, by half since last summer and their derivatives had winners and losers all over the place, yet no one failed. It happens all the time. Dairy derivatives are still going strong.

And so on, in every commodity market, everywhere. If there is a commodity, there are derivatives: Futures, Puts, Calls, Swaps .. etc.

Not all of AIG's derivatives are mortgage based. We need to be careful not to lump all derivatives in one pile and do a populist dance of hate.

If a hate dance is necessary, then march out Barney Frank and Christopher Dodd. I'll bring the rope.

AIG Is The Guy That Covers Insurers
Amy offers, "These captive reinsurers backed a good deal of the institution's risk with, you guessed it, mortage based securities."

AIG, in a nutshell.

Not On the Subject But...
The voters that helped elect Obama were college kids. Some of them were probably "A" & "B" students. Knowing that they feel socially obligated to help the needy, I wonder if they would be willing to take C's if their less studious peers could also get C's just to be fair? If colleges would institute this policy across the board in the interest of being in line with the new administration's tax policy, maybe they would get a better idea of the importance of knowing who you are voting for before you pull the lever.

if only
This is a serious sounding explanation of a misunderstanding of the crisis we are facing. It could have been the case that we are seeing a crisis of bad loans driven by government interference. In reality the highest level of bad loans came from those financial institutions that were the least regulated.

It could be that this was primarily a problem of foreclosures, but in reality it is a problem of foreclosed properties having been bundled with good properties in ways that make the balance sheets of financial institutions untrustworthy. Foreclosures are bad, but they are not hard by themselves to evaluate. Again the problems happened where regulation was lax and regulators thought their job was to not interfere.

If we were facing a different problem than we are, Sowell analysis might be quite astute.

Amy, you're suggesting there are more...
...shoes getting ready to drop. If this is true, what fiscal sense does it make for Obama to spend multiple trillions more on anything not associated with the on-going crisis in the financial system. Then, for Obama to take over the entire health care industry. Then, for Obama to drive energy cost up with cap & trade, driving industries out of the country. Cap & Trade will bring an estimated $2 trillion in fees to the government from a contracting economy in recession.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/mar/18/obama-clima te-plan-could-cost-2-trillion/

This really means $2 trillion will be removed from the private sector economy causing all Americans, poor and rich, household incomes to contract. Causing the national economy to contract because $2 trillion removed from circulation to fuel recovery from a recession.

Now, if and when the second shoe drops, or, an unforeseen shoe drops, how will the nation have the financial resources to deal with it?

Obama has spent, and wants to spend more, on the unnecessary, how will Obama financially deal with the necessary, if and when, something happens?

Does Obama understand this basic fact of good fiscal management? Obama is like a teenager who spends all of his money on buying video games, eating at McDonald's and going to the movies. But, the teenager neglects to manage his money to be able to pay his necessary rent when it comes due.

What has Bush got to do with this?

Sowell is quite astute
"It could have been the case that we are seeing a crisis of bad loans driven by government interference."

That IS the reality. The crisis was precipitated by irresponsible Fed policy that flooded the market with liquidity and created the conditions that mispriced risk levels for riskier assets. It affected EVERY actr in the marketplace (as in the 1920s, as with the "tech bubble", etc.). he problem was grossly exacerbated by the actions of Fannie and Freddie which created an irrational market by giving a government imprimatur to mortgage risks and CREATING a secondary market that would not otherwise exist (again, affecting ALL actors in the marketplace).

Banking and insurace are the two most hevily regulated industries in the country. In the absence of the conditions mentioned above the symptomatic government-incented explosio of riskier fianancial instruments not merely doesn't take place, it CAN'T take place. The market doesn't permit it to occur.

That presumably less regulated entities had the greater problem, even if it were at all true, is completely irrelevant to the economic dynamic.

Thus, Sowell's point, while focused more on the secondary market impact than the liquidity issue is completely on point and attempting to blame the problem on irresponsible investor actions (or, more absurdly deregulation) is doing nothing more than blaming a SYMPTOM instead of the aactual disease.

That's How We Roll
It's the closest thing to a perpetual motion machine ever created. In order to justify their existence, pols create problems that "only the gubmint can solve". Much like discovering that the rash of arson fires was started by a fireman.

Economic History is not difficult
Phylo is:

1) Intellectually Challenged (in other words nutty)
2) Has no knowledge of economic history
3) Is a Democratic/Socialist/Marxist puppet
4) Can only read comic books with single issue topics
5) Should move to Russia and/or other Communist Dictator country like Zimbabwe


I remember raising the question
in elementary school: "when will all the laws be made?" It seemed to my young mind that, at some point, the basic necessities would be covered. I was right, of course. We've moved far beyond the basic necessities to the sorry state in which we now find ourselves. Government has abandonned its function as servant of the people and become its mother.

Taking care of the basics (roads, hospitals, schools, post offices) is not sexy at all. It doesn't play well in political campaigns. It doesn't excite the electorate to run out and vote, especially for the promiser.

So now we have protection for the spotted owl and the darter snail, but not enough lanes on the freeway, not enough nurses in the hospital, and not enough teachers in the schools.

Instead of taking care of our basic needs, the politicians take care of themselves -- and in grand style, I might add.

Obama came along and promised to restore integrity to government. He's just another liar. It's still government of the politicians, by the politicians, and for the politicians.

False solutions indeed.

BIGbelly
You clearly do not understand the oil business. To those of us who do understand you sound silly.

Go learn something about the energy business before you opine on the subject.

BIGbelly: Oil Company Profits
What is an obscene profit? Shouldn't the largest publically traded company in the world (Exxon) make the most profit?

(By the way, oil companies lost billions during the 4th quarter of 2008, and profit projections for the next couple of years are weak.)

Saudi Aramco is 10 times bigger than Exxon.

"Big Oil" owns, or controls 10% of the world's oil. In the 1950s this number was 50%. Now national oil companies own 80% of the world's oil.

The last time that "Big Oil" controlled the price was 1972. This is when the Texas Railroad Commission stopped setting the price of West Texas Intermediate.

If an oil company which makes record profits measured in US$ at a time when the US$ is at record weak levels, does that still qualify as a record?

Huge federal deficits and pending subprime lending issues caught up with the US in 2007 - the dollar weakened, and oil prices (priced in US$) skyrocketed. The rise to $145 was not rooted in supply and demand because supply outpaced demand from 2002 to 2007.

GET READY. The dollar is at 1.30 to the EURO now, it was 1.00 at the end of 2002, and with Obama's Xmas list, all on borrowed money, will drive the dollar weaker, and keep oil prices higher than they should be.

There is no reason we should be paying more than $1.25 per gallon for gasoline if only the Government would reign in spending, and reduce the national debt.

Return to the 1982
What will solve the mortgage issue - huge federal deficits will lead to high interest rates, and very high mortgage rates.

Recall that you paid 11.5% for a mortgage in 1982.

BigBelly, BigOil
BigBelly, BigBelly
your logic is Smelly :O/

Most of us are weary of the "Evil Big Oil" talking points...please. Look for new material. Why don't you start researching the Al Gore movement that is being propped by the brilliant Obama administration. You Big Oil bashers will be wishing you listened to those of us who understand the Energy issues and how Big Oil has been an astronomical benefit to the likes of you. Wake Up!!

Dr. Sowell's Work
I have read (possibly many of you have too) Dr. Sowell's book "A conflict of visions". I recommend it to anyone who wants to understand the liberal mind. Remember to know thy enemy. We have grossly underestimated the liberals in American politics (not classical liberals) these people have nothing but contempt for the American way of life, to them it must be remade according to their twisted world view.

The fact that they are easily used by politicians to further their own agendas only multiplies the problem.


Phylo
Actually, the banking problem has its roots in the Cinton years. I think it was 1993 or 1996 when the banks convinced Clinton to relax regulations under the Glass-Steagall Act of 1933.

This act in essence said banks had to be banks and not participate in speculative activity. Yet, Clinton allowed banks to behave like investment banks.

y
You are wise beyond you years! (Of course, I have no idea how old you are.)

If only the drones that follow the left understood how much oil is yet to be produced in this country.

California could be like Alaska - paying those that are left in the state to live their. Reserve estimates upwards of 80 billion barrels off the outer continental shelf - that's 4 times current US reserves.

The Gulf has huge untapped sources under the salt structures (estimates 50+ billion barrels). Thankfully Gulf drilling is not off limits, but added taxes will only shut down exploration in the Gulf, which is already very expensive.

Brazil is finding huge reserves off their coasts. This is why they are moving away from an ethanol economy to a fossil fuel economy. Cheaper, and cuts down on surface level ozone.

Of course, every generation needs a dose of Jimmy Carter ignorance. This generation has Obama, which is starting to look like they want to "out-ignorant" Carter.

Obama and his sloppy Presidency.

I AGREE TOTALLY WITH DR SOWELL
I got my real estate license in 1974, Brokers license in 1978. Homes were bought and sold every day and the mortgages were farily standard, VA,no day payment required to Veterans only, FHA, min of 3% down and Conventional with 10% down payment. Most buyers knew then that they needed a good credit history and job to be able to purchase a home, and young families began saving for down payments for their homes when they married.
Later when adjustable rate mortgages were introduced, many real estate brokers, myself included, would advise against them because we knew if prices of homes did not keep going up that homebuyers could be upside down in value with these loans.
But, the mortgage companies upped their pressure for buyers to acquire Adjustable Rate Mortgages.
I was out of the business for a few years and when I returned in the 1990's I could not believe how much the approval guidelines had lessened for homebuyers and the many "funky" loans that were now available. At this time government had created a problem where non existed, just as Dr. Sowell suggested.
Most of us who had been in the business for a while knew this situation would become a train wreck. We just did not realize how big nor how deeply embedded it had become in our financial institutions.

Secondly, we did not realize how stupid our congress had become until recently. To me they are getting dumber by the day.



Thanks, Sol
...for busting the delusional "Phylo Se Fiser," as wannabe "amma-chur fill-ossifur" Matt Mullen aka "Mad Mullah."

I'd love to buy the entire stock of his never-to-be-published pamphlet "kor-ecktin' da meddafizkul prob-lims of westurn fill-osiffee" for what it's worth and selling it for what he thinks its worth!

Once Again - Spot on.
Of course this is what happens when the lovey dovey govey gets their hands into free market economies.

I get steamed every time I here that "free market solutions have failed" and its time to let the government run it. Those people apparently are happy to be human veal....sitting in a pen, told when to eat, sleep, sh!t...all the while being drained of money by a government that is at the precipice of failure.....then being told to be happy for it.

reminder about govment orgs.
Fannie....nuf said
Freddie...nuf said
Amtrak....nuf said
Social Security....bankrupt...all the extra money spent. Your money today goes to retirees today....

The problem with government intervention into free markets is that it starts to get its fingers in.....starts to screw it up......tries more manipulation....screws it up more....then ultimately after the entire thing is messed up due to their intervention...they claim the free market has failed and they have to take it over....

Right now this is happening with Health Care.

Why can one company can offer auto, home, life, dog, and property insurance across the entire US......but health insurance is limited to localized providers. How can all other insurance costs be reasonable and competitive, but yet health insurance is not?

Why do tort lawyers campaign against Tort reform for malpractice suits in the US??

Too many questions not yet answered.....other than "there are 45 million uninsured people in the US today" coupled with "8 million of them are children" (ohh how that does tug at the heartstrings doesn't it.)

Somewhat Offtrack,
Andy Rooney - Part 2

My father and grandfather didn't die in vain so you can leave the countries you were born in to come over and disrespect ours.

I think the police should have every right to shoot you if you threaten them after they tell you to stop. If you can't understand the word 'freeze' or 'stop' in English, see the above lines.

I don't think just because you were not born in this country, you are qualified for any special loan programs, government sponsored bank loans or tax breaks, etc., so you can open a hotel, coffee shop, trinket store, or any other business.

We did not go to the aid of certain foreign countries and risk our lives in wars to defend their freedoms, so that decades later they could come over here and tell us our constitution is a living document; and open to their interpretations.

I don't hate the rich and I don't pity the poor.

I know pro wrestling is fake, but so are movies and television. That doesn't stop you from watching them.

I think Bill Gates has every right t o keep every penny he made and continue to make more. If it ticks you off, go and invent the next operating system that's better, and put your name on the building.

It doesn't take a whole village to raise a child right, but it does take a parent to stand up to the kid; and smack their behinds when necessary, and say 'NO!'

(to be cont.)

Granite Eagle
You will be interested to know just how that 45 million and 8 million breaks down.

1 in 5 make more than $75,000 per year, but choose not to purchase insurance because the plans available are "one size fits all".

1 in 5 are not US Citizens

1 in 3 are elgible for Medicade but will not complete the paperwork - for whatever reason.

Of the 8 million children, 6 million are elgible for SCHIPS.

Of the 45 million only about 8 million truly fall through the cracks - make too much to be elgible for Government programs, but make too little to afford private.

8 Million "truly" uninsured is a more managable problem, compared to 45 million.

But, let's screw up the health care of the 280 million that have access.

Change we need !!!

Wow.
I see lots of people responded to my post this morning. And not one of you made a serious attempt to argue any of my main points.

Again, anyone who thinks our current problems were caused by Barney Frank and open space laws, is out of their mind. And Thomas Sowell has to be one of the dumbest economists I have ever come across, which is saying a lot.



Andy Rooney - Part 1
Sorry, Part 1 didn't make it >

Just in case you missed it, CBS recently gave Andy Rooney a spot on "60 minutes" a few weeks ago. He has just become my new best friend! This is what he said.- - >

"I don't think being a minority makes you a victim of anything except numbers. The only things I can think of that are truly discriminatory are things like the United Negro College Fund, Jet Magazine, Black Entertainment Television, and Miss Black America. Try to have things like the United Caucasian College Fund, Cloud Magazine, White Entertainment Television, or Miss White America; and see what happens... Jesse Jackson will be knocking down your door. Guns do not make you a killer. I think killing makes you a killer. You can kill someone with a baseball bat or a car, but no one is trying to ban you from driving to the ball game.

I believe they are called the Boy Scouts for a reason, which is why there are no girls allowed. Girls belong in the Girl Scouts! ARE YOULISTENING MARTHA BURKE ?

I think that if you feel homosexuality is wrong, it is not a phobia,it is an opinion.

I have the right 'NOT' to be tolerant of others because they are different, weird, or tick me off.

When 70% of the people who get arrested are black, in cities where 70% of the population is black, that is not racial profiling; it is the Law of Probability.

I believe that if you are selling me a milkshake, a pack of cigarettes, a newspaper or a hotel room, you must do it in English! As a matter of fact, if you want to be an American citizen, you should have to speak English!


Andy Rooney - Part 3

I think tattoos and piercing are fine if you want them, but please don't pretend they are a political statement. And, please, stay home until that new lip ring heals. I don't want to look at your ugly infected mouth as you serve me French fries!

I am sick of 'Political Correctness.' I know a lot of black people, and not a single one of them was born in Africa; so how can they be 'African-Americans'? Besides, Africa is a continent. I don't go around saying I am a European-American because my great, great, great, great, great, great grandfather was from Europe. I am proud to be from America and no where else!

And if you don' t like my point of view, tough...

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG, OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA , AND TO THE REPUBLIC, FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD,
INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL!

It is said that 86% of Americans believe in God.. Therefore I have avery hard time understanding why there is such a problem in having 'In God We Trust' on our money and having 'God' in the Pledge of Allegiance. Why don't we just tell the other 14% to STFU!!!"


Phylo, Please
If you are prepared to debate Thomas Sowell on this, go right ahead.

Bring a thick skin so that you can deal with the humiliation you will encounter during that debate.

Phylo
Get beyond stage one. Connect the dots.

Housing prices increase as open space laws and land use restrictions limit supply.

Freddie anClinton dumps the Glass-Steagall Act of 1933 allowing banks to speculate.

Freddie and Fannie are given higher quotas under Clinton and Bush. Dodd and Obama threaten filibuster against attempts to regulate Freddie and Fannie.

Freddie and Fannie sell risky investments to Wall Street, and banks.

Investors purchase insurance from AIG.

Economy slows down.

Housing prices stop rising.

House of cards starts to fall.

Banks left holding toxic assets.

Phylo
A comparison.

Housing prices took off in California during the 1970s and 1980s as population increased.

Housing prices did NOT take off during the 1970s and 1980s in Houston as population increased - faster than it did in California.

Houston was the second faster growing city (5000 +/- per week) in the late 1970s and early 1980s - second to Atlanta.

Key difference - California has a number of land use restrictions; Houston has NO zoing laws.

Today, Houston is growing at an average of 2,000 per day. Texas is growing faster than most states.

Why - low housing prices? Few land use restrictions or few zoning laws. Dallas has zoning, Houston does not. Houses in Dallas cost more than houses in Houston.

And, being a right to work state, industry is building here first. I found out just last week that Cat is building a new plant outside of San Antonio.

When Government makes laws to limit supply prices go up. Simple concept. People adapt with fancy financing. Wals Street protects itself from risk. And speculators speculate. What we are experiencing now is the consequences of many poor decisions by Government over the last 30+ years.

Land, water, banks, scams
Dr. Sowell is again, right...on the money!
Additionally - our land and water is rapidly being taken out of domestic resource production, bringing America in a state of vulnerability to un-friendly nations. Why?
Dependency on them...for our food, fuel and fiber.
A hungry nation is ripe for takeover. That, is what I feel the Obama administration is moving us towards. I just have figured out yet who...will take us over. China? Russia? The Islamic extremists? Who? Who's Obama the front man for?
http://www.GoodNeighborLaw.com has in-debth educational materials on LOST, ESA, Global Warming scam, descriptions of US economy-housing-banks, environmental movement and a whole lot more.
It's the non-partisan "go to" place for facts and truth on domestic resource production.
http://www.RoniBell.Blogspot.com

Dick Parker, The Andy Rooney stuff is bo
That stuff has been floating around since 2003:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/rooney4.asp

djaces, Noooo!!!
We have enough liberals here, thank-you-very-much.
Now, if we're talking Ko'olawe...

Ignorance Promises More Of The Same
Phylo Se Fiser offers, "Again, anyone who thinks our current problems were caused by Barney Frank and open space laws, is out of their mind."

You are such a dough-head.

Fannie and Freddie, capital institutions, instead of being run by Capitalists for profits, are being run by Politicians for votes. See the corruption, here?

So, people like Barney Frank and Christopher Dodd instead of applying good capitalist notions to work, use political correct notions as their guide-lines, such as "affordable housing" instead of "low risk loans". Are you following?

Of course, if the US Government, via their controlled enterprises of Fannie and Freddie begin backing and trading in high-risk loans, high-risk loans becomes nearly legal tender throughout the world. Heck, if America backs it, it must be safe! So, everybody gets in the housing mortgage game. Everybody!!

Soon, homes are popping up like popped corn all over the place with people buying homes like candy and no risk to anyone!! Wow! Isn't that great? The problem with an over-populated housing market is that sooner or later, too much inventory devalues all inventory. American lost nearly 11 trillion dollars in realestate value in one year!

Can you say, thank you Barney Frank and Christoper Dodd? Or, would you rather just shoot the messengers, like AIG?

Heck, this new guy, Obama, even wants to extend the politization of industry to include, not only banking and cars, but energy and healthcare, too! Boy, this should be fun!

Kiss your freedoms good-bye.

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BEING AN AMERICAN
The family of JOHN WAYNE has re-released a CD that he made in 1973. If you have a chance to listen to it great. You can purchase it online at NewsMax.com. It's worth the money.

The point I want to make is about all this "political correctness" crap being shoved down our throats. I'm sick of it too. I feel there are only 2 places left where I can VENT. In my own home and in my car when I'm driving. Otherwise, BIG BROTHER (1984 ring a bell) is listening !!!My son keeps telling me the satellite is passing over my house!!

The 2nd track on this CD is called The Hyphen...it's worth listening to the words. John Wayne says it all in this. Of course we can go back a little further in history to Pres Teddy Roosevelt, who said something like there can be no 50/50 Americans in this country only AMERICANS.

Another great patriot, Charlton Heston was quoted as saying "Political Correctness is Tyranny with Manners".

I know it's a tiresome saying, but to me it still has meaning AMERICA LOVE IT or LEAVE IT.








What should the government do?
someone asked Ludwig von Mises. He replied,
Nothing....sooner"

False Solutions for Nefarious Reasons
It's about time to impose on these worthless politicians the same measures as the unfettered business world: RESULTS. No results? NO PAY and you get the big boot in the arse without ceremony (or benefits like perpetual salaries, etc)!

In general, politicians manipulate voters/citizens. If the manipulation is actually “the best for the most” and not shot through with self-interested schemes or contrary to the intent of the Constitution then a cautious “yes” is in order. But 98% of the time politicians are dumb as dirt on the issues they meddle with and if they rely on “experts”, they select the ones that support their agenda and almost never the clear and superior end-to-end solution that is “the best for the most”.

Having government bureaucrats decide your fate, especially your livelihood, your life and health, is the definition of unmitigated hell. Besides the complexity of the issues they don’t understand and will never understand, one of the big reasons why this is a bad idea is that bureaucrats are so insulated from the repercussions of the decisions they make. They have no incentive to even make the right ones. Bureaucracy is all about the power to say “NO!” based on some inflexible formula. Even in a socialistic setting funds are finite and the reality is that fat-cat bureaucrats will dictate every aspects of your life with your money. Your fat-cat politicians in Washington have their own generous healthcare system with none of the snares, complications, and limitations that average citizens have to endure. They collect their full salaries for life even if they only serve one term. And they vote themselves their own raises! There is no ties to performance or the horrendous damages these thieves perpetrate (Ted Kennedy, Franks, Todd, etc comes to mind). Now if that doesn’t stink I don’t know what does!

Orly Tatiz only wants your money fools
You conservatives are suckers of the century, she riles you up and collects all the fees. Conservatives are pathetic fools.

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Florida Dem
Obama has got your money, fool

To All Responders:
Gentlemen, It's pretty clear that I have no idea how Big Oil really operates, and no I'm not a Big Oil basher, as a matter of fact I'm glad they make the kinds of profits they make, more power to them, and when I talk about them-Big Oil, I don't mean just U.S companies I'm talking global.
The 200 billion I referred to in my earlier post was just profits here in America, and I thought that was obscene, worldwide profits for last year must easily top a trillion, we're talking obscene infinity now, but I promise myself I won't use the term "obscene" ever again in the same sentence with profits.
These Petroleum Giants deserve every penny they make and I hope they continue to make as much money as humanly possible while laughing all the way to the bank, that is, until another product that does what petroleum does comes on the scene.
What I do know is we've been having these mini-recessions every five to ten years and and what I've observed since the seventies is that high gas prices is one of the leading precursors to economic downturns, during the downturn gas prices tend to remain steady and once the spending resumes-BAM.
Then again, what do I know I'm just a bigbellied moron who has to buy viagra by the case.

New Topic
Random Thought -
Would Natasha Richardson be alive today if she had been skiing in USA instead of Canada?
Obama's socialized medicine anyone?

Another New Topic
Another Random Thought -
When are the Obama liberals going to erect a monument at his birthplace similar to what was done to Lincoln's.

Another New Topic
Random Thought -
When are the Obama liberals going to erect a monument at his birthplace similar to that at Lincoln's cabin?

@Earl - The One's birthplace
Hey Earl, how does anyone know where he was born?

Phylo is clueless
Any person who is curious to see just how truly illiterate and clueless the pompous ad hominem Phylo is can do so by watching anti-Fed Canadian artist Paul Grignon's wonderfully educational 47-minute animated video titled "Money As Debt". You can watch it for free at http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-90504743625834512 79 Phylo and his deliberately irrational ad hominem ilk are 100% impervious to facts, logic and/or civility. To understand the "Phylo" mentality, one need only check out ex-liberal comedian Evan Sayet's video titled "How Modern Liberals Think" at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaE98w1KZ-c The strategically illiterate ad hominem Phylo is lower than whale leftovers on the bottom of the ocean. It would behoove all rational posters - to whom this post is addressed - to simply ignore him. Perhaps then he will go away and crawl back under his rock.

Gideon:
Phylo and many others here have a theory they believe. (Remember: 'theory' means an unproven guess) They can't stand to have facts quoted to them or even provided to them. They remind me of an old line from a movie: "My mind is already made up. Don't confuse me wiht facts."

H.H.H.
Herbert Humphrey was one man I simply could not stand. He was instrumental in creating the "Vietnam Peace Talks" which resulted in his "Peace Accords". What they really were was a way for the North Vietnamese to take over South Vietnam. Then he ran for President on the grounds that he had 'saved' the American troops by pulling them out of Vietnam and wasting the lives lost there (as present day Democrats want to do in Iraq) by giving the country to the north.

When he died there was three days of mourning. All you could get on any TV station was his funeral. I was going to college at the time. I was in a waiting room waiting for class with a television on the funeral line of people who had gone to visit.

I commented that I thought it was a stupid waste of money for people to travel as far as they had done to go to his funeral. One young girl spoke up. "If I had the money, I'd go too," she insisted. "I think he was a great man!"

I thought a moment and then answered. "You know, if I had the money, I'd go too," I agreed. "Just to make sure the S.O.B. is really dead."

I thought everyone else in there would fall over laughing. She got up and left.

He was one of the reasons so many soldiers died in Nam. He was the reason the South Vietnamese were lost and millions killed. And he was great? Don't make me laugh! Or curse the dead.

Redefinition of government
Lincoln's famous quote from the Gettysburg Address, which described America as " a government of the people, by the people, and for the people" no longer describes 21st century America. What we have now is a government of the professional politicians, by the lobbyists and lawyers, and for the oligarchs and corporations. The American people are being robbed of trillions of dollars, in a 'done deal' between Big Business, Corporate Finance, and their paid lackeys in Washington D.C. And the American people are just standing on the sidelines, with their mouths hanging open, saying, "Huh?", "What", "Who"? All the paid and scripted actors in this choreographed performance are pointing the finger of blame at the other scripted actors on the stage, claiming the other group is responsible for this fraudulent mega-shakedown of the American people. Meanwhile the daring daylight heist of trillions goes on, in full view of the American public, while millions watch, helplessly.

Great Article Mr. Sowell
This article clearly shows what happens when know nothing do goody politicians decide there is a problem and try to fix it. Why is it that Democrats and some Republicans think that any problem can be solved with SOMEONE ELSE'S MONEY?
Now we have president Obama using taxpayer money to bailout financial institutions brought to the brink of bankruptcy by past governmental intrusions into private business also implemented by his Democratic party. Even better is that in a mere 3 months he's managed to create intense anger by allowing much of that money to be used as BONUSES to executives of those institutions. We CANNOT HANDLE 4 years of this man's policies.

Governmental Chaos
The current administration intends to try "this solution" and when that doesn't work they will try "that solution" again and again to "solve" the economic problems caused by government interference in the economy. Business and investors not knowing how the repeated changes in governmental policy and taxes will effect them in the future will sit on the sidelines waiting for sanity to return. No one wants to invest their money when the rules are constantly changing. The political classes attacks on contract and property rights make economic life less certain and discourage investment. I believe political change is needed before the economy can really recover. The Carter administration is back in town.

Right on!
This is one of the best articles I have read in a long time,showing the true issues. Thank you for your clear thinking.

Govt is the problem
Thank you for being a lone voice caling out the real culprits in this meltdown. The press is spinning the cause as Wall Street. Wall street is at fault but not the cause . They never could have done this w/o the Liberal compassion.

Why did everyone miss it? Why was the protest so muted?

Obama Sickness
Do a GOOGLE search on 'vaknin obama'.
Very Scary!
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