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Tuesday, January 27, 2009
Thomas Sowell :: Townhall.com Columnist
What Are They Buying?
by Thomas Sowell
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Everyone is talking about how much money the government is spending, but very little attention is being paid to where they are spending it or what they are buying with it.

The government is putting money into banks, even when the banks don't want it, in hopes that the banks will put it into circulation. But the latest statistics shows that banks are lending even less money now than they were before the government dumped all that cash on them.

Even if it had worked, putting cash into banks, in hopes that they would put it into circulation, seems a rather roundabout way of doing things, especially when the staggering sums of money involved are being justified as an "emergency" measure.

Spending money for infrastructure is another time-consuming way of dealing with what is called an immediate crisis. Infrastructure takes forever to plan, debate, and go through all sorts of hearings and adjudications, before getting approval to build from all the regulatory agencies involved.

Out of $355 billion newly appropriated, the Congressional Budget Office estimates that only $26 billion will be spent this fiscal year and only $110 billion by the end of 2010.

Using long, drawn-out processes to put money into circulation to meet an emergency is like mailing a letter to the fire department to tell them that your house is on fire.

If you cut taxes tomorrow, people would have more money in their next paycheck, and it would probably be spent by the time they got that paycheck, through increased credit card purchases beforehand.

If all this sound and fury in Washington was about getting an economic crisis behind us, tax cuts could do that a lot faster.

None of this is rocket science. And Washington politicians are not all crazy, even if sometimes it looks that way. Often, what they say makes no sense because what they claim to be doing is not what they are actually doing.

No matter how many times President Barack Obama tells us that these "extraordinary times" call for "swift action," the kind of economic policies he is promoting take effect very slowly, no matter how quickly the legislation is rushed through Congress. It is the old Army game of hurry up and wait.

If the Beltway politicians aren't really trying to solve this crisis as quickly as they could, what are they trying to do?

One important clue may be a recent statement by President Obama's chief of staff, Rahm Emmanuel, that "A crisis is a terrible thing to waste."

This is the kind of cynical revelation that sometimes slips out, despite all the political pieties and spin. Crises have long been seen as great opportunities to expand the federal government's power while the people are too scared to object and before any opposition can get organized.

That is why there is such haste to do things that will take effect slowly.

What are the Beltway politicians buying with all the hundreds of billions of dollars they are spending? They are buying what politicians are most interested in-- power.

In the name of protecting the taxpayers' investment, they are buying the power to tell General Motors how to make cars, banks how to bank and, before it is all over with, all sorts of other people how to do the work they specialize in, and for which members of Congress have no competence, much less expertise.

This administration and Congress are now in a position to do what Franklin D. Roosevelt did during the Great Depression of the 1930s-- use a crisis of the times to create new institutions that will last for generations.

To this day, we are still subsidizing millionaires in agriculture because farmers were having a tough time in the 1930s. We have the Federal National Mortgage Association ("Fannie Mae") taking reckless chances in the housing market that have blown up in our faces today, because FDR decided to create a new federal housing agency in 1938.

Who knows what bright ideas this administration will turn into permanent institutions for our children and grandchildren to try to cope with?

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And Washington politicians...
"And Washington politicians are not all crazy,..."

No, but appears they are all crooked. Every last one of them.

molon labe

A Bipartisan approach (part 2)
Each member of the House and Senate with the exception of the “Leadership” each make approximately $174K on average. The leadership makes 193K except dear old Pelosi who makes 224K. Let’s have all members of both the house and senate take a pay cut to 50K per year until they can play nice together and do what is best for our nation instead of their ideologies. Perhaps we would get a balanced budget once in a while. This would raise about $70 Million. I realize that some of them may have to sell one or more of their numerous houses but why should the little guy be the only one feeling the pinch. None of these figures include the COLA ( Cost of Living Adjustment) and pay increases they get to vote for themselves each year or the Per Diem and expense accounts they get. Lets liquidate their retirement plan and have them receive Social Security benefits like the taxpayers. Or better yet add their retirement plans money directly into social security. Let us call it $60Million as a guestimate because there is not much transparency in some of this information.

That is about $200 Million per year. Just think of the political power it would buy. I would even say that once all of this took effect not only would the American taxpayer stand behind our government but many of those in our government that think our fore fathers meant for politics to be a career would probably leave office and find another way to suck the life out of this once great nation that my father, grandfather, great grandfather and myself along with millions of others that all served to protect.

A bipartisen approach (Part 1)
Good morning,

A few months ago several of the elite demanded that the executives of the Big 3 should work for a dollar if they are asking for taxpayer money. Here is a thought. Let Obama and Biden each work for $1 dollar until the economy turns around. Everything they need is provided by taxpayers any way and they pay for nothing. That’s about 700K not including the 50K expense account both the president and vice president receive each year. Not quite sure why either needs an expense account considering everything they need to live quite comfortably is provided by tax payers. The entire cabinet should be willing to drop all their pay collectively to 50K each. A conservative estimate should equal a savings of approximately $10 Million.

Next have all members of both the house and senate use their own vehicles. Based on Tom Daschle’s estimate that is about 100K each. 535 members or so plus aids. Let them pay for their own parking in DC to help stimulate the local economy. That should come out to approximately $60 Million.


Puppet Government
Our President was never vetted thouroughly before he was elected, thanks mostly to the liberal press. I do believe we are witnessing the existence of a puppet government.
The President is really not as brilliant as we were led to believe and the liberal Democrats are really in control.

B (marxist) Obumba
This president is pushing this country into the toilet of marxist socialism

T-Shirt
I would like to purchase a T-shirt with a photo and name of Thomas Sowell...Mr. Sowell should be president!

Obama Not Smart Enough
For 8 years all we heard from the left was how dumb Bush was so what do they do to replace him?
Elect a Yes Man for every special interest group in America. With so many special interest groups that he has to repay for their votes, there will be no time in the next year to actually concentrate on matters that all Americans have in common like safety.

Obama is too busy pleasing the Liberals to be concerned about anything else.
All anti establishment Liberals have their hands out for the peoples money off the top. Them first You second.

Intentional Economic Disaster
Looking back, I'd say this entire economic disaster was "created" to insure the total conversion to government control, but that would sound paranoid...

Semper Libertas
Sure, from the past you can add blue laws and certain sexual practices to your list, but which were enacted by the right and which were approved by all, before the left became the left? Let's see which ones Obama rescinds by Executive Order withing the next month, as he has with abortion and gay issues.

Do you deny the general trend towards onerous nanny matters which are not traditionally religious morality issues such as dietary restrictions, smoking bans, fuel emissions, etc?

It seems to me that these issues are being elevated from just good things we should do, like eating right, to becoming new liberal morals enforced by law.

What do you become to the left if you disagree with:

Human-caused Global Warming
animal-rights activists
peace at any and all costs activists

Cross any of these and you become at best immoral and at worst a truly evil person.

Do you remember a Democrat member of congress stating from the House floor that, paraphrasing, "Conservatives do not care if children go to bed hungry"?

Which of these have any basis in our Constitution? That's right, none.

How does giving money to the banks
make any sense? Banks aren't going to turn around and lend it out to people when the economy is in such bad shape, while jobs are being lost by the thousands every day. Banks aren't going to risk this windfall the government has given them; they are going to funnel it into good sound investment programs. No one can blame them either because banks aren't charity organizations, they are business entities whose primary goal is to make a profit.

Now, these same boneheads who shoveled the money to the banks are yelling their heads off because the banks aren't using the money the way it was intended to be used. They're already talking of forcing the banks to do the very same thing that got us all into this mess in the first place, i.e. make them take bad mortgage risks by telling them Freddie and Fannie will buy the mortgages. It's the same old game, only this time on steroids.

Government has no business in business. Liberals have yet to learn this most basic economic premis. A very expensive training ground at the expense of the working people is this. Does anyone think they will learn anything from this fiasco they are creating?

To: christianlib and Lonerules
Tax cuts are tired ideas especially when the concept gets mired down in liberal politics. You both are very good at taking stats and government reports to shape your arguments, however those positions are compromised a lack of common sense. It is a fact that the US has the 2nd highest Corp tax rate of all industrialized nations - socialized Europe has lower Corp Tax Rates. It's very simple. Let me spell it out for you in the most basic terms. In order for a company to grow it needs revenue - not handouts from the government - as revenue increases so does the need to re-invest in technology and people. If you consider a temporary cut in Corp tax rates, modify or freeze cap gains both Corps and individuals will have more money to invest; institutionally and personally. That will do far more for stimulus than Uncle Sam pulling money out of our pockets. Moreover, a recent article by Alan Sinai in the Wall St. Journal points out that lifting the foreign earnings tax. Again, simply put at the current tax rate, US companies much repatriate those dollars at a rate of $.35/ea dollar earned. That is preposterous. At the end of the day, if these Draconian tax policies were frozen even for a year it would result in an infusion of private money into the economy of approx $545 Billion. There are ways to fix our economic malaise, printing money and filling pork projects is not the answer. Good old American ingenuity and rational tax decisions can STILL prevail.

Where's The Hope? Change?
Obama is just another politician. Nothing he says or does represents hope and the only change is more government control over our lives.

I am so disappointed in the American people for allowing themselves to be suckered into his lies and selfish ambition for another political movement to give him and his party absolute power to corrupt the constitution.

Yes, I blame the people.

Zap Sayeth?


"Your endless whining has become pedantic."

Exactly. Never thought that I could agree with you ON YOU.

econ
libertarian-american.com

What are they buying?
They are buying votes, plain and simple? "Here's some money I took from some hard-working individual, now vote for me and my party and you'll get more"!

That about sums it up!

re: Andy
Sorry, I didn't catch that you weren't being serious. My mistake, but an easy one to make as you wouldn't believe how many times I've heard a similar suggestion from folks.

re: Globug
Sorry, politicians aren't that smart -- Republican OR Democrat.

re: Semper Libertas
Semper: You apparently missed the irony intended in my statement about the government mailing out $3,000 checks to everyone in the U.S. Read the second half of my post... that expresses my true feelings about what's going on.. However, the one thing that can be said in favor of the $3,000 check idea is: at least it is egalitarian, i.e., everyone gets a piece of the action; unlike the $900 billion bailout plan, where our money is disbursed to those least deserving to get it, and in many cases those who helped to create the financial disaster in the 1st place!

AOL Poll
Go take this poll: Does the stimulus have the support of the American people? http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2009/01/29/hot-seat- stimulus-package/

AOL Poll
Go take this poll: Does the stimulus have the support of the American people? http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2009/01/29/hot-seat- stimulus-package/

Did Democrats Create Bad Economy ?
I am suspicious that Democrats have created the current situation in our economy to gain power for themselves through years and years of lies and deception. Just think about all the money they have forced the banks, employers, medical care, housing, automobiles & employees paid to the government just to do business in a free society then turn around and spend it on pet projects to ensure their own power.
ACORN, Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, Planned Parenthood,Kennedy's "Big Ditch" etc.

re: wjriii
quote: "Gone are the days that government's job was to protect the country from other countries, and to protect one citizen from another. The government's has increasingly been used to protect us from ourselves."

Like, for example, laws that restrict when I can buy alcohol, gambling on the internet, what substances I can put in my own body, and pornography? Nanny state laws are no monopoly of the left, the right just has a different shopping list.

As for the Patriot Act, many of the new powers for government granted by that act were powers the government had been seeking for years. 9/11 just gave them a new talking point for why they needed them and made the people scared enough to let the government expand.

re: Andy
Why should the government take money from us at all to turn around and send a check to people? Note that for a lot of people, under your proposal they are getting a "free" $3000 check -- paid for by me. What right do you or anyone else have to claim a piece of my paycheck? And you'd still be adding greatly to the national debt.

On the economics side, government checks might cause a short spike in consumption, but it is still just demand-side, Keynesian economics. There's no long-term growth. Changing the tax code to take less of our money to begin with, and not to punish savings and investment, would be much better.

Semper Libertas
I agree with you to a point. Yes, there are restrictions on us now that we have to protect ourselves from terrorists living among us.

The amendments to our Constitution which make up the Bill of Rights enumerates many freedoms that the government can not take away from its citizens. Unfortunately, a balance must be struck between freedoms when they conflict.

It should be expected that the balance between rights will shift as we encounter new situations.

On the other hand, the nanny state that the left has gradually ushered in is not a matter of the balance between our civil rights. IT IS A BASIC REDEFINITION OF THE ROLL OF GOVERNMENT.

Gone are the days that government's job was to protect the country from other countries, and to protect one citizen from another.

The government's has increasingly been used to protect us from ourselves. This is a MAJOR shift from the importance of the individual to the importance of "society".

The clearest indicator of this shift is the government's increasing distrust of the public to act in their own best interests. As a result, the government becomes an agent of the centralized control of the citizens.

This is taking us away from a capitalistic system towards a fascist socialistic system.

Great Changes can Sneak up on you
This article is perhaps one of the best ever by Thomas Sowell. The bad news is pretty well laid out in Sowell's article. The good news may seem imperceptible, but it's there if you just look a little under the surface. The House just passed its big stimulus deal, without a Republican vote. I don't think the Republicans in Congress appreciated Obama's inference that they are taking their marching orders from Rush Limbaugh. Democrats use the cult of personality to win. That's how Obama won. They think Rush's vast media presence, his personality, is their big enemy. They obviously miss the point. It's their own warped ideas on how to run the nation that hurt them the most, and will eventually bring them right back down again. Obama's plan is so bad, not a single moderate Republican would support it! They know how bad it is. There is so much debt and obligation being laid on future and even the present generation, that it makes FDR look like Ronald Reagan in comparison.

A few good things have happened. Thomas Geithner's confirmation in the Senate for instance. We can only hope the American people take note of the level of respect the people running the government have for the tax code they are supposed to enforce. There is hope for the future if people can read between the lines a little.

The same goes for California and the government's declaration that tax refunds will be, really, indefinitely delayed. It's not just rich Republicans that get tax refunds. There are plenty of Democrats counting on those tax refunds for their own serious needs. It is their money. They loaned it to the State of California with the expectation of prompt refund. The State is thumbing its nose at the people of California and saying, "You thought it was your money, suckers!" When such flaunting abuse of government power takes place, the end has to be near. Yes, there is hope for the future!

Stimulus checks
Instead of taking 900 billion dollars of the taxpayers' money, and spreading it around to a bunch of corrupt and/or inefficient banking or manufacturing concerns, why not just cut a dividend check for approximately $3,000 dollars for every man woman and child in the United States, and mail it out, with a brief note enclosed, "Best wishes from Uncle Sam". The economic benefits to the U.S.economy would ricochet and ripple instantly and powerfully throughout all sectors of the U.S.economy. Best of all, we would be putting money into the hands of those who could most wisely use it, and terms of their own personal benefit and life situation. Instead, our politicians are throwing good money after bad, lining the pockets, with more money, of corrupt and inefficient financial institutions, and putting us taxpayerts deeper in the hole, debt-wise. On one hand, this is absolute lunacy what is happening right now in our country. It's like some bad, dark satire written by Kurt Vonnegut. On the other hand, there is absolute logic and order to this madness, on the part of those who are perpetrating it.... their actions are leading us to absolute government takeover and control of all segments of American society. Totalitarian control, of the worst and most comprehensive and 'technocratic' kind is coming soon... Total control that's going to make Soviet Russia and Nazi Germany look like amateur's night. We've been cheering the charismatic guy riding by on his horse, playing a beautiful song on his guitar, and all the while we have been totally oblivious to the Nazi panzer divisions following close on his footsteps... Freedom is only for free people, not self-deceived slaves..

AOL poll
I'm sure they do, particularly if 'most people' are UAW members or those who bought houses they couldn't afford.

AOL Poll About Pork Plan
AOL has a poll that shows that most people think republicans should just go along with the bill. Put your vote in http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2009/01/21/hot-seat- conservatives-and-the-stimulus-plan/.

Tax reforms as Stimuli
Perhaps a fix to the situation could be derived from the tax-code. As a homeowner, I can deduct the interest expense of my mortgage, which helps make the high fees palatable. Suppose that Congress offered residential “mortgage backed” securities, and “mortgagees” a Tax Free status similar to Municipal Bonds. Then the holders could afford to lower the interest rates (drastically) to provide the same or similar after-tax return, and immediate relief to the borrowers. This program could almost be revenue neutral, homeowners would have less interest to deduct (i.e. pay more taxes). Or, if not neutral and it costs the government tax revenues, it would cost much less than an outright bailout and the lost revenues on the write-offs of the capital. This could be an “emergency program” and slated to taper off and finally end over the course of a decade, providing relief now, stability for the future, and perhaps a new way to encourage home-ownership for our children. Imagine if SAVINGS interest was no longer taxed, .....now people would be wise to put money into savings (i.e. increasing liquidity at the banks). It seems to me that the tax drain on interest earned is the cruelest tax of all and is currently causing much of the misery. There is certainly precedence for this kind of tax-code manipulation of economic behaviors, remember the 10% Tax Credits for new energy systems/investments? or the accelerated depreciation of apartments to spur housing growth? There is no magic to the prescription, and in proper doses will cure this disease. Thank you for your attention, and may God Bless America.
Wes Gibbs, San Diego, CA

Throw every Obama voter in jail.
They are guilty of child molestation and rape.

After all, they screwed every man, woman and child in the country.

Never again will any of us have the freedoms and liberties our founding father envisioned for us!

re: Towncar
You have to love the irony of your post agreeing with a previous complaint of too many posts and too much "mental masturbation" appearing three times, eh? :D

TH
Love server glitches.

Hosquatch
"Man, there is way too much mental masturbation in these posts! Why don't some of you guys who keep bickering back and forth endlessly like teenagers just exchange phone numbers or e-mail addresses?"

ROFLMFAO! Thanks, dude, I've been thinking that for two days..expected 500 posts this AM.

Hosquatch
"Man, there is way too much mental masturbation in these posts! Why don't some of you guys who keep bickering back and forth endlessly like teenagers just exchange phone numbers or e-mail addresses?"

ROFLMFAO! Thanks, dude, I've been thinking that for two days now..expected to see 500 posts this AM.

Hosquatch
"Man, there is way too much mental masturbation in these posts! Why don't some of you guys who keep bickering back and forth endlessly like teenagers just exchange phone numbers or e-mail addresses?"

ROFLMFAO! Thanks, dude, I've been thinking that for two days now..expected to see 500 posts this AM.

Self-serving (davpratt3)
I agree pretty much. The problem is not with cutting taxes...but with cutting THE SIZE OF THE OBESE, INEFFECTIVE GOVERNMENT! Go back and play the Republican debate with Dr. Ron Paul and how they snickered. He, a true patriot and EARLY supporter of Reagan, has said all along that government was never meant to be this big..not Constitutional. Reagan's aim was to cut taxes AND REDUCE the size of the government. He bemoaned his failure in not reducing the size of the government. Well, you can still hear Dr. Paul telling Congress the bailout WILL NOT WORK and why! He is a scholar of economics. Dear God, we needed him to struggle turning this huge boat (USA) around.

Bank Money?
Let me remind you, banks do not lose money, depositors lose money. While banks do earn money on interest collected, most of the interest earned is dolled out as payments to executives, and bonus payments to executives. If the banks run out of money to loan, the income stops. So they need taxpayers to bail them out so they can pay executives.

re: wjriii
You don't believe that provisions of the Patriot Act also represent the "heavy hand of government"?? I'm no fan of Big Government property confiscation and redistribution, nor of the "nanny state", but infringements on our civil liberties are no better.

Are we a "police state"? Not in the sense of Nazi Germany or Soviet Russia. On the other hand, try getting off the "no-fly list" once you're on it, even if it is simply because you share the same first and last name (not even middle name) with someone who's done some bad things. You don't get notified you're on the list, you just start getting detained by Customs when entering the country, & next thing you know you can't check in online for flights. No notification from the gov't you're on the list, and the burden is on you to prove why you should NOT be on that list.

The list goes on -- this is far from the most egregious part of the act -- but there are plenty of government abuses of civil liberties. PA provisions have been used to prosecute decidedly non-terrorist acts. And to paraphrase Jefferson, when the liberties of one citizen are violated, the liberties of all of us are.

My Stimulus Package
With Don Cordell as your President, my plan was to cut all income taxes on earned income (wages) for 2008, and 2009. That would have put money in the hands of the citizens immediately. Or at least a $100,000 deduction on earned income for these two years. The government already tells us that 10% of the population pays 90% of the Income taxes. So this 90% of us, only pays 10% of the income taxes? It's this 90% of Americans that need help the most. So check google for Don Cordell for President, I'm still in the running, for when we run Obama out of Washington DC. I'm not giving him 100 days, I'm giving him 180 days, perform or Quit.

Unchristianlib: And what left wing

lunatic have YOU been listening to??????

Here's a breakdown, the one Bozo probably didn't want us to actually see before he RUSHED (no pun intended!) through Congress.

http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/198/20639 /?ck=1


And the fact that Bozo wants it RUSHED through Congress should be one of FIRST clues that there's more to this than meets the eye...

In fact, we now have some dems who are a little uneasy with this Marxist movement!!!!


Mario: More Freedom?
More freedom under Obama?

I'll take the Patriot Act over the heavy hand of liberal government which will write checks (not welfare) to others using my hard-earned money, tell me how much and what kinds of food I can eat, what kind of car I can drive and the settings of my home thermostat.

How do the provisions of the Patriot Act affect you on a daily basis? Do you believe that we are living in a police state? Do you watch what you say over the phone? Do you worry that informants will report any dissenting views to the authorities?

The liberal's attacks on our right to personal property and their desire to make "choices" for us is far more intrusive and attacks the core precepts upon which our country was founded.

re: Mario
Your mistake is equating "Republican" with "conservative" or "free market capitalism" or "liberty". It is neither conservative nor free market to expand government intrusion in education, prescription drugs, "faith-based initiatives", foreign aid, home ownership, and government bailouts. It is not liberty-minded to increase government intrusion on property rights (which same-sex marriage is really about), pornography (so long as it doesn't involve coercion or children), or drugs, just to name a few.

The Constitution doesn't mention political parties, but it does mention the limits of government, and it is pretty clear that those things not specifically authorized to the federal government are to remain with the states, or better yet, the people -- that is, the government stays out of them altogether.

Government didn't shrink during the Bush regime, it expanded.

By the way, Obama has not ended the terrorist eavesdropping program; rather, when in Congress he voted for it.

ropati
you have been listening to rush again.

it is a re-development grant and there will be bidding.

it is not for acorn.


4.1 Billion for ACORN
Tell me how this will stimulate the Democratic Party, uh, um, uh, I mean the economy?

Exactly
Dr. Sowell, it is not stupidity that drives them to put the stimulus bill through, but a planned, calculated attempt to wreck the economy.
Karl Marx could not have done better.

http://www.conservativeallies.com

http://www.teamsarah.org

Less than a week into his "RULE"

we already know what quotes will define Bozo's presidency!

AFTER signing an Exec. Order to close Gitmo, one of his spokespersons said, "he hasn't yet fully explored the potentially negative consequences...."

and

"... is more complicated than it first appeared."


Typical of an inexperienced, arrogant, self serving, neophyte who does not understand foreign policy, or much of anything else, for that matter.

How Much is Your Freedom Worth
There is no doubt that King was the greatest leader this country had in the past Century. He delivered everyone's rights to them and did more for this country than anyone else. RFK, after his initial suspicions about King's political leanings were cleared up, helped and he would have continued the battle had he lived.

JFK, had he had a little more time would have rivaled king in the freedom department, but his work was in the area of economic freedom where your bonds can be much more sinister and not as easy to detect. You wake up one day no longer able to pay your utility bill, make your house or rent payment, afford to buy clothes for your children, or send them to the summer camp you sent them to the last year. JFK was in the process of eliminating the death grip that the banks were slowly tightening around our necks by issuing new currency when he was killed.

We now owe this year's entire GDP to a private bank and foreign countries. That is the source of our economic problems and Obama wants to borrow more money and give it to us to pay back. It's like eating and purging. When you get that check in the mail, you will be selling your freedom for $300, $600, or maybe even $1000. How much is it worth.

Better keep an eye on Obama. He's no Martin Luther King.

http://ewebsmith.com/Finance/economicproblem.html

"A crisis is a terrible thing to waste."

That is true for any politician. The only way to shine is to solve a problem of some kind.

If a politician ran the country for a period of time without a problem, he would not be praised, he would be considered weak. After all, what did he/she accomplish?

This is a chance for Obama to be remembered as a great President.

FeargalX
What's the fix. Dems, no way. Repubics, no way, 3rd party, not in our grand-kids lifetime. ???

Hope
My Grandmother, who had escaped from Soviet Lithuania, gave me the true definition of Hope. “When the government has their boot on your neck and a gun to your head the only thing you have is hope”. They are treating this stimulus package like a gun to our heads. All we can do is hope It will be stopped.

maybe some valid points
The problem is that Republicans have destroyed their credibility concerning fiscal responsibility. Does everyone forget Bush's role in the medicare prescription drug bill? Had the Democrats passed that same kind of program it would have likely mirrored the VA's program (and the cost would be hundred of billions less). Does everyone forget that Lawrence Lindsey was fired by Bush for claiming that the Iraq operation might cost $100,000,000,000 -- remember when Iraq's oil was going to pay for the whole operation? Even if Obama and the Democrats want to turn the U.S. socialist, our unions are way weaker than they were in 1985. We have less regulation in many areas as well. I did not vote for Obama, but I do not blame him for our economic situation. Imagine if we had spent $2,000,000,000,000 or 3,000,000,000,000 less over the past 6 years or so -- wouldn't we be in a better spot to deal with our economic problems?

Hope
My Grandmother, who had escaped from Soviet Lithuania, gave me the true definition of Hope. “When the government has their boot on your neck and a gun to your head the only thing you have is hope”. They are treating this stimulus package like a gun to our heads. All we can do is hope that it will be stopped.

Americans are ripe for socialism
As always Dr. Sowell has hit the nail on the head. Unfortunately the left now dominate and they are fast tracking their socialist agenda. That's why the Obama administration is pushing congress to send him this package for signature by President's Day. Right now most Americans have bought into this hook, line and sinker, so it's time for him to strike while the iron is hot.

To sum up Zapdoodat
There is no need to respond to Zap. He is another broken record. All things Bush, GOP or conservative = evil

All things communist, socialist, marxist, liberal, and democrat = no blame whatever.

This is a poster completely devoid of reason and not worth anyone's time to respond.

It is fascinating that these guys blame Bush for being a big spender. Which he is and was. He was wrong. 0Bummer promises even more.
He ran to the right of McCain but will govern to the left of the Bushes, who were more to the left of Clinton, Carter and Reagan. This argument makes no sense.

We should only engage those willing to drag their corrupt side to do the right thing. I think that Geithner proves that the GOP is as corrupt as the other side. Few seem willing to look in the mirror. Conservatism has never had a fair hearing. We have only dabbled with it. Subsidies are wrong. Bailouts are wrong. Neither of these are conservative principles.

Neither George Bush, HW or W, were conservative. Mc Cain was not conservative. But,....O'Bambi did run as one to get elected. Zap is obviously a twit.

You can “HOPE” for “CHANGE”...
Yes, permanent tax cuts would be more beneficial to getting the economy rolling again than government spending. And if our “elitist” want to give money away to big businesses and their cronies; they could instead give a one-time one-million dollar all tax-free rebate to every citizen. This would have diffidently ignite the economy; and would have cost much less and done more good, than the 1+ trillion dollars that they foolishly are giving to the wrong entities. Government spending is not the solution, but government is certainly a big part of the problem.

I for one, and I am sure a majority of others do not like our “elitist rulers” nor the way they rule. They can never seem to get it “right”; yet they can always do the politically correct thing and never are accountable for it. They exempt themselves from the very laws they expect we the people to live by. They give themselves pay raises, when they already make more than three times the median income of we the people; while spending far less time on the job than we the people; and benefits that far exceed those of the UAW. They only listen and pander to special interest groups, and a deaf ear to we the people. It is past time that “We the People” take our government back.

You can “HOPE” for “CHANGE”; but you had better pray it’s the “RIGHT CHANGE”.


IT'S TOO BAD THAT-
Dr. Sowell is not the Sec. of the Treasury as one person or more had mentioned earlier. The DC crowd is such a cess pool. Call about 100 plumbing companies to begin cleaning out that mess. And also, add Hazmat to help out with the toxic overload. Great article as usual.

hail to the chief
Exactly right Thomas. They love the problems we are having. Did Obama once mention immediate drilling for Oil in the USA? Not hardly. He would like foreign dependence of oil to go away by making hybrid cars? Give us a break. The more problems we have, the better the liberal Democrats love it, so they can make Americans dependent on the government. You got exactly what you voted for.CHANGE. Good luck America, we will need it.

BREAKING NEWS....SarahPAC


"The goal," an official with the organization says, is to bolster the campaigns of FELLOW REPUBLICANS through donations.

The address is a P.O. Box based in Arlington, Virginia.

YEP, those "FELLOW REPUBLICANS" need ALL the help they can get.

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Sowell is exactly right on this part
To this day, we are still subsidizing millionaires in agriculture because farmers were having a tough time in the 1930s.
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Successful farmers know how to milk the government first and the cows second.

BREAKING NEWS...Jan. 27, 2009

In a major step closer to a future run for national office, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin on Tuesday established SarahPAC, a political action committee expected to play a key role in financing upcoming political endeavors.

“SarahPAC believes the Republican Party is at the threshold of a historic renaissance that will build a better future for all,” the SarahPAC.com Web site announced Tuesday. “Health care, education, and reform of government are among our key goals.”

The site, which invites donations, calls energy independence “a cornerstone of the economic security and progress that every American family wants and deserves.”


The National Debt
Arguing about who's more responsible for the national debt is yet another smoke screen. Politicians of both parties like to spend other peoples' money, they just have different shopping lists.

re: Hosquatch
The whole "Obama is not a natural-born citizen" thing is a fool's errand. A Republican governor attested to the accuracy of his birth certificate, and you've got to be fooling yourself if you think the Clinton Machine would have allowed this to happen if there were any speck of truth to it. This kind of dead-end argument just undercuts credibility on the real issues, like stopping this boondoggle of a so-called "stimulus" program.

There IS (or, sadly, WAS) a real issue with the Treasury Secretary choice. Unfortunately, the Senate rolled over on Geithner, and now we have a tax cheat running the IRS.

I wish we had President T. SOWELL
Or at least Treasury Secretary Thomas Sowell--then our economy would truly be in good hands. This man is truly BRILLIANT!!

He expresses so well and succinctly the simple truths, such as:

"Using long, drawn-out processes to put money into circulation to meet an emergency is like mailing a letter to the fire department to tell them that your house is on fire.

"If you cut taxes tomorrow, people would have more money in their next paycheck, and it would probably be spent by the time they got that paycheck, through increased credit card purchases beforehand...."

"...Crises have long been seen as great opportunities to expand the federal government's power while the people are too scared to object and before any opposition can get organized.

"That is why there is such haste to do things that will take effect slowly.

"What are the Beltway politicians buying with all the hundreds of billions of dollars they are spending? They are buying what politicians are most interested in-- power."

Yes, sadly, POWER is all that Obama, Pelosi and too many others in Congress (like Chris Dudd and the bumbling, lisping Barney Frank) CARE about, really.

Steven
So you have resorted to outright lying now?

In fact, social security receipts will be more than outlays until 2017.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Medicare_%26_Social_Secur ity_Deficits_Chart.png


Take a look at the debt clock, it's officially well over $10 trillion. unofficially, it's well beyond that. you can thank the Republican party for all this debt.

http://brillig.com/debt_clock/

Hosquatch
That idea was put out there by Dick Morris. It gives the GOP in the Senate something to fillibuster with in hopes of killing this silly stimulus plan in the Senate.

Sounds like a good idea to me.

zapdoodat
Bush grew the national debt by $1.9 trillion from 2000 to 2007, and I think another $1.2 trillion in 2008 (a trillion of that was due to the bailouts during 2008)

I believe, with a little more research, that what we are seeing is the beginning of having to address social security - more going out than coming in.

SS payments in 2007 accounted for 38% of Federal Government outlays, while only accounted for 32% of inflows. Interesting that 6% of all inflows was debt - cash is fungible, of course, but I'll bet that the SS Bust is on our doorstep, not way out into the future that some want to think.

The bottom line
Man, there is way too much mental masturbation in these posts! Why don't some of you guys who keep bickering back and forth endlessly like teenagers just exchange phone numbers or e-mail addresses?

Steven at 12:13pm had a good idea that we ought to consider pushing...federal and state governments should not be able to have ownership stakes in private enterprises. Implementing that idea presumes that our country will survive the present assault on freedom by Obama and the Socialist Democrats.

Mark at 8:06am is cutting through all of the meaningless chatter and getting to the bottom line. "I fear the time is coming that we will need to resort to other, stronger measures to ensure our future", he said. I fear Mark is correct. Realize, all of you, that Obama has never produced proof of American citizenship...because he cannot. All evidence points to his birth having occurred in Kenya. He has had all of his birth and personal records sealed. Why??? His presidency is essentially a coup d'etat against our country because our Constitution forbids persons who are not native-born Americans from assuming the presidency. If you want to do something useful,
contact your Congressmen and Senators to demand that Obama prove his eligibility to "serve" as president. This IS a REAL constitutional crisis! It also lends creedence to the purpose for the Second Amendment. Keep your powder dry!

And, as Earl said at 9:41am, "God help America!"

Steven
"The national debt increased during the Clinton years - $568 billion"

The debt has from $5 trillion to what will be the final count of at least $12 trillion under George Bush's 'Reign of Error.'

"What are they buying," 1/27,2009
Perfectly said! The "rest of the story"? They advocate revitalizing the economy by "spending" money they don't and won't have until they first take it away from tax-paying wage-earners, so they can give part of it back to them (mostly to others who paid no yaxes whatever, including foreign on-citizens). What kind of sense does that make?
ERLE HOWERY
In California's "Gold Country"

re: zapdoodat
I agree with your critique of government subsidies for the cotton industry, just as I do for the dairy industry, the sugar industry, and of late, the banking, insurance, and automotive industries.

A much better approach would be for the government not to subsidize ANY industries, and instead let the free market decide. Not only would that lower prices for consumers and remove government intrusion from the marketplace, but it would also be good for the environment, as subsidies tend to favor less efficient agricultural practices that need more fertilizers and pesticides for production.

And, of course, guess who gets to pay for the cleanup made necessary by the extra, government-subsidized pollution...

Of course, the subsidies also result in a larger incentive for businesses and industries to spend lavishly on attempted to persuade the government to enact even further restrictions on competition and subsidies.

zapdoodat
The national debt increased during the Clinton years - $568 billion. It increased during the first 2 years of the Clinton era - a fact. And it increased by only $56 billion the last 6 years, a fact.

Agree - social security is the elephant in the room no one is talking about.

We are in a period of deleveraging. We bought the last 16 years of GDP growth on credit. The time has come to pay it down. This will be painful, but necessary.

And transferring that debt from our sheet to the Government's sheet, the Obama, Pelosi plan, is not the answer.

Steven
Alan Greenspan, a lifetime libertarian liked Bubba's attitude to knocking down the debt.

Yet, even more from Alan Greenspan's book titled 'The Age of Turbulence.', pg 143

In 1993, "Clinton had outlined a broad, ambitious economic agenda during his campaign. He wanted to cut taxes on the middle class, halve the federal deficit, stimulate job growth, increase U.s. competitiveness through new education and training programs, invest in the nation's infrastructure, and more."

and

"If he wanted to address the economy's long-term health, the deficit was by far the most pressing concern. I'd made that argument at the start of Bush's term, and now the problem was four years worse. The national debt held by the public had risen to $3 trillion, causing interest payments to become the third-largest federal expense after Social Security and defense."

Steven
"The national debt increased by $512 billion during Clinton's first two years in office. Then another $56 billion the remainder."

From pg 184-5 of Alan Greenspan's 'Age of Turbulence.

Some quotes from the middle of Bubba's presidency from Mr. Alan Greenspan book.

"Almost overnight, the Clinton administration found itself facing a budget surplus that was expanding as fast as the budget had dwindled."

"Not a single Republican had voted for the milestone deficit-reduction budget in 1993."

"My longtime involvement in Social Security reform had made me all too aware that, in the not-too-far-off-future, Social Security and Medicare would face demands in the trillions of dollars as the baby-boom generation aged. There was no practical way to pay those obligations in advance. The most effective policy would be to pay down the debt, creating in the process additional savings, which in turn could increase the nations productive capacity and federal revenues at existing tax rates by the time the boomers hit retirement age."

Everyone should see this ......
Everyone should see this for what it is! And we should fight and defeat it! Otherwise our country is doomed!

"One important clue may be a recent statement by President Obama's chief of staff, Rahm Emmanuel, that "A crisis is a terrible thing to waste."

This is the kind of cynical revelation that sometimes slips out, despite all the political pieties and spin. Crises have long been seen as great opportunities to expand the federal government's power while the people are too scared to object and before any opposition can get organized.

That is why there is such haste to do things that will take effect slowly.

What are the Beltway politicians buying with all the hundreds of billions of dollars they are spending? They are buying what politicians are most interested in-- power. "

Steven
Yes, drop the tariff on Brazilian ethanol and impose a tariff on Middle East oil.

I noticed you're from Texas.

When the Republicans got control of Congress in January of 1995 they took care of some friends.

Cotton Subsidies by year, Texas
1995-----$11,326,513
1996----$192,005,776
1997----$177,186,203
1998----$335,010,715
1999----$511,405,328
2000----$488,484,785
2001----$707,989,054
2002----$583,405,392
2003----$807,291,334
2004----$475,324,635
2005--$1,036,033,167

Total $5,325,462,901

That's 5 billion dollars!

Do you know that most of the cotton grown in the USA is exported. Just look at the label on your clothes for that information. Guess what country is the number one importer of US cotton?

You got it. China.

The US taxpayer is subsidizing t-shirt manufacturing in China. Is that patriotic? Tom Delay's district gets a lion's share of the handouts. Great work, Tommy Boy!

Clinton Grew The National Debt
The national debt increased by $512 billion during Clinton's first two years in office. Then another $56 billion the remainder.

Some argue that Gingrich put the right checks on spending which allowed the national debt to grow so slightly during those last 6 years.

And, others argue that Reagan's victory over the cold war allowed both Clinton and Gingrich the ability to spend less.

re: ADLoggy, Baci
ADLoggy: I prefer not to go to places like DailyKos or Huffington Post at all. I wasn't saying they're intellectually honest debaters who decry namecalling and ad hominem attacks in favor of arguments based on facts and figures, I was just saying that "liberals" have no monopoly on such.

Baci: I would take issue with your "only a conservative" comment with regards to favoring tax cuts to government spending. I'm not "conservative", I'm a free market capitalist, and yes, I too believe that even outside of the "economic stimulus" argument, tax cuts are a good idea. Letting people keep more of their own money and property and use it as they see fit is not only an economic issue, but a liberty issue as well.

As the late, great Milton Friedman said: "I favor tax reductions under any circumstances, for any excuse, for any reason, at any time."

This is our Congress' intelligence!
"Using long, drawn-out processes to put money into circulation to meet an emergency is like mailing a letter to the fire department to tell them that your house is on fire."

ZAPADORK 2

I know better than to comment on your comment, because you dont have the courage to answer my posts, but her goes...

If you think that America can't compete with Uncle Sams help, just wait till Uncle Samba gives us amnisty and the unions get thier hooks into the migrant farm workers, you will see what skyrocketing prices are like....

EVERYONE ELSE, watch what Zapadork does, he will repsond to this one and still ignore the origionla posts, wanna bet?

zapdoodat
Good that you are now getting the picture.

I expect you to fight to get rid of farm subsidies. Fight hard. Hillary Clinton voted against subsidies as a Senator - until she decide to run for Prez., then those subsidies to Iowa became important.

Sugar subsidies - get rid of them too. The reason we use corn syrup in soft drinks is because the Sugae lobby has a strangle hold on the US Government.

Tell your Senator that you will not stand for farm subsidies anymore. Ethanol is the most ridicules idea out there. Sugar cane in Brazil is the best ethanol - yet Brazil is shifting to gasoline because ethanol creates more pollution than gasoline.

Getting rid of farm subsidies!!!

I will join you in this battle - seriously!

ZAPADORK
Did you notice you TOTALLY avoided what I asked

Just couldn;t help yourself I bet...

WAS THERE A NATIONAL DEBT WHEN CLINTON LEFT OFFICE? If yes then NO SURPLUS

Did you watch the video ?

Intelectually dishonest is all I can say about you

Teqsand
Are Republicans Socialists? They all do believe in wealth redistribution.

Farm subsidies sky-rocketed under George Bush and Ronald Reagan. That's wealth redistribution from blue states to red states. It's nigh time to get these teat suckers off the government sow.

U.S. sugar farmers could not compete against the other countries without sucking at the teat of the government sow.

Economists have criticized farm subsidies on several counts. First, farm subsidies typically transfer income from consumers and taxpayers to relatively wealthy farmland owners and farm operators. Second, they impose net losses on society, often called deadweight losses, and have no clear broad social benefit.

The U.S. government heavily subsidizes grains, oilseeds, cotton, sugar, and dairy products.

U.S. farm programs have cost about $20 billion per year in government budget outlays in recent years. But budget costs are not a particularly useful measure of the degree of support or subsidy. Some subsidy programs, such as import tariffs, actually generate tax revenue for the government but also impose costs on consumers that exceed the government’s revenue gain.

The forms of subsidy vary by country and commodity as well. The main forms of subsidy include: (1) direct payments to farmers and landlords; (2) price supports implemented with government purchases and storage; (3) regulations that set minimum prices by location, end use, or some other characteristic; (4) subsidies for such items as crop insurance, disaster response, credit, marketing, and irrigation water; (5) export subsidies; and (6) import barriers in the form of quotas, tariffs, or regulations. Often, supply control programs such as land-idling requirements, production quotas, or similar schemes accompany price supports or other programs. In addition, the governments of most wealthier nations provide aid for agricultural research and development, promotion, and some agricultural and rural infrastructure.


Zapdoodat Lost In Populistic Notions
Zapdoodat as to who contributed to the financial collapse, "Has no one told you that the President of the USA was a Republican for the past eight years? Has no one told you that the Speaker of the House for 12 of the past 14 years was a Republican?"

The Majority does not rule, absolutely.

Yes, they were in charge, but governing is always a compromise, not autocratic. Obama, Pelosi and Reid will still need to compromise with the Minority on many issues, just as the Republicans, before them.

The Democrats have always protected their pet projects as Fannie and Freddie, just as Republicans tend to protect theirs, no matter the majority. Yes, the Democrats hoarded over the housing and lending. The Republicans, as with most of us, did not see the harm since we were ever expanding, growing and busy keeping us safe.

Now, we are upset with the Democratic Legislatures for such counterintuitive logic as to incouraging poor lending practices. But, the Republicans should have been better stewards and not allowed them so much leeway.

This is simple stuff, try not to confuse it with populist notions.

Hey Libs
I want a liberal to explain this...(if you are intilecually honest)
Conservatives stand back and watch.. should be funny

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MGT_cSi7Rs


wiseone, NOT!
"laming Bush for asking for the the first $350 billion."

Your kleptomaniac Bolshevik-Republican president wanted $750 billion for the bank bailouts. Remember, the triumvirate of Bush, Hank Paulson and Ben Bernanke?

Quick question all, who coined the phrase 'we want the money, quick and clean.'

wiseone
"Most importantly, EVERY SINGLE POLICY that led to the collapse of the financial industry was conceived, initiated, and imposed by LIBERAL DEMOCRATS."

Your endless whining has become pedantic.

Has no one told you that the President of the USA was a Republican for the past eight years?

Has no one told you that the Speaker of the House for 12 of the past 14 years was a Republican?

It's time to man up and take responsibility.


Fergus
"As it happened, Bush tried VERY SPECIFICALLY, in 2003, to address this issue, with help from John McCain and a few others. Unfortunately, they were blocked by procedural maneuvers. And who was at the heart of these procedural maneuvers?

Barney Frank and Chris Dodd. Dems.

Weak volley, Lefty. Try again."

Actually, the Bush Administration tried more than a dozen times to restore sanity to the mortgage-lending industry. They were blocked at each and every turn by Democrats. On some of these occasions liberal media pundits would join these Democrats in denouncing the effort as "mean-spirited" and alleging that Bush was trying to help his rich Wall Street banker buddies at the expense of the hard-working poor.

Most importantly, EVERY SINGLE POLICY that led to the collapse of the financial industry was conceived, initiated, and imposed by LIBERAL DEMOCRATS. Now that their policies have achieved the inevitable disaster they were headed for the left wants to blame it on the the GOP, and even at that the best they can come up with is 'Bush didn't stop us from wrecking the economy'.

They're like a bunch of teenagers who went joy-riding in daddy's car and wrecked it, and now they're saying that it was daddy's fault for letting them know where the keys were.

Three years from now, after the bailout adds another 2 or 3 trillion to the national debt and still doesn't revive the economy the left will be accusing the GOP of going along with it. Some libs on this thread are already setting this up, blaming Bush for asking for the the first $350 billion already and already criticizing the way it's being spent.

Clinton Lovers
As long as there was a NATIONAL DEBT, their is NO SURPLUS

Clinton lovers get over it and deal with the F'n FACTS!!!!!!!!

You're trying to tell us all here that there was no national debt when clinton left office?
Get REAL

Oh how we love the time bombs he set in place for the economy....

Obama To World: Abort Now!
Retired Greek offers, "80% of Americans call partial birth abortion, evil, while Mr. and Mrs. Obama call it a good thing."

Now, America, under President Obama's careful guidance, finances abortions world-wide. Where Bush tried to save babies in Africa, Obama reverses course. Sick.

beowolfe
Republicans took a surplus and left us with $6 trillion dollars of more debt. Remember, the debt under 'W' has gone from $5 to $11 trillion.

Republicans believe in 'cut taxes and spend like drunken sailors', and Democrats believe in 'tax and spend.' If you want to cut taxes then you gosh-darn need to cut some spending.

A core value of modern-day Republicans is to run government incompentently. Even the War in Iraq has taken six years and a trillion dollars just to maintain the status-quo. It's a big shame. The Generals told the Republicans in 2003 that to take and hold Iraq would take 400,000 US troops.

The Republicans cold-heartedly knew their precious tax cut would disappear with the proper number of troops in Iraq. You can only throw so much debt onto the national credit card.

The Republicans sent 150,000 troops to Iraq, not enough to do the job, but clung to their precious tax. It's irrelevant to these Marxists how many troops are hurt in the process.

Letter from a Birmingham Jail

"Martin Luther King points to a people of Christian faith that demanded an end to infant killing.

In Rome in their declining years, it became law that upon the birth of your newborn child, if you didn't like the color of their eyes, the texture of their hair, the complexion of their skin, you could by law lay your child by the side of the road to die.

The law further stated, anyone touching your child to give aid would be put to death.

The newborn child was to be left to die!

The early church under the threat of death scooped those children up and raised them as their own.

Martin Luther King called not giving children "left by the side of the road" receiving no aid, evil!

Barack Obama calls it a good thing.

80% of Americans call partial birth abortion, evil, while Mr. and Mrs. Obama call it a good thing."

Rev. Dr. Clenard H. Childress, Jr.

http://www.blackgenocide.org

NOTE: Please support Dr. Childress by going to his website and encourage him with prayer. Posted with permission from Dr. Childress.

"Stop Black Genocide". Retired Geek


Inflation fears
I wonder whether the real reason that Obama is not cutting taxes is that he is trying to pump more liquidity into the system to compensate for the vacuum created by the recent losses. Throughout history, printing money has always led to the complete demise of the fiat money system. The US dollar appears to be doomed. (www.jwsgoldsilver.com)

LoneRules
"U.S. multinational companies move income to jurisdictions where they will pay the least taxes on that income, even when those jurisdictions have a disproportionately small amount of business activity from that company in comparison to its income."

That's also known as "good business practice", you fool.

Here's soemthing to contemplate: If the corporate tax rate in location A is 39%, and the corporate tax rate in location B is 20%, which locale will receive a greater portion of their revenues from corporate taxes?

I'll leave it up to you to do the research and figure out the answer to that question.

zappy...
Again, no matter how much puke you drool out about the Republicans, your ridiculous "solution" is to make it worse.

$400 billion Republican deficit? Bad.

$1.8 TRILLION Obama deficit? GOOD!

Yeah, now THERE'S "logic"!

ZAP:
I am not satisfied at all with the turn the Republican party has taken under the current leadership. Bush did some good things and also failed in many important areas too. You very clearly point out many of the actions by Republicans that are opposite to conservative ideology. I want the Republican party to succeed with conservative ideals, but it needs to change.

Conservatives need to pull the Republican party back to its' roots and purge the party of its' RINOs or risk losing the party to moderates.

If the Republican party does not wake up soon, conservatives will look to form another party and face many years of regrouping to defeat the Democrats.

LoneRule
Corporate Income Taxes comprised 13% of Federal Government tax receipts. Someone in the corporate world is paying taxes.

Of course, the corps that are finding ways to AVOID paying taxes - like private individuals that find ways to AVOID paying taxes (not EVADE like our new Treasury Secretary) should be sending you a message to do something before they all leave.

Cutting the corporate tax rate would have huge impact on the economy - short-term and long-term. You must understand how corps make investment decisions to appreciate the impact.


Charles LPKY
250,000 registered voters is hardly going to influence a national election. But, maybe we won't despise the day of small things? :)

I have read the LP platform and I agree with all of it except the positions on abortion and homosexuality. As a Christian, I just can't go there. So, if my husband ever decides he is fed up and wants to waste his vote, it will be the Constitution Party for us. Most of our friends have already gone there.

democrats, Republicans on steroids pt 2
Obama and the democrats believe the Constitution is flawed and needs to be transformed into a charter to empower central government to reign over the individual, which are the various democrat party constituent groups and voting blocks.

It has been observed that the government that can give you everything you want also has the power to take everything you have. This is the system Obama believes we should have after 250 years of limited government.

Our system of federal government is based on these historical facts about human nature and human civil society, the individual has had three historical dangers:
1. From his government, more have been slaughtered by their government.
2. From other governments, many have been slaughtered in wars between governments.
3. From society descending into a war of all against all. "Bellum omnium contra omnes," a Latin phrase meaning "the war of all against all," in fact, the state of affairs in many urban centers burdened under long democrat party control today:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bellum_omnium_contra_omnes

democrats, Republicans on steroids pt 1
Great line because it is so true.

The founding fathers established the US Constitution, the charter of "negative liberties", to protect the citizen from his government. It was assumed, before the era of socialism, that governments would eventually become corrupt.

http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/288200.html

The founding fathers, looking at human history, saw more humans had been killed or repressed by their own government than by other governments in war. Therefore, the founders wrote our "charter of negative liberties" outlining what the government cannot do to the individual, providing a measure of security from our most danger threat, our government that can take away or repress our right to pursue life, liberty and happiness. Or, as Obama would say, our right to be selfish and live for ourselves.

In Obama's "flawed US Constitution statement" in this interview, see the link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iivL4c_3pck

President Obama, said the charter of "negative liberties" our Constitution was flawed and the US Supreme Court should turn the Constitution into a so-called charter of "positive liberties" specifying what the individual can expect from his government. It will be called the charter of, "ask not what you can do for your country ... ask what your country can do for you" with the money the government took from your neighbor, business owner, Peter to give the Paul, an ACORN community activist or other democrat party activist.


Nailed It
Once again Dr. Sowell nails it right between the eyes. "Like mailing a letter to the fire department to tell them your house is on fire." Love it. Keep them coming. We need you.

Roland
"his give away of our money was started by the left leaning Bush,"

Let's get real. The entire Republican Party eagerly followed Bush's lead.