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Tuesday, September 30, 2008
Thomas Sowell :: Townhall.com Columnist
Bailout Politics
by Thomas Sowell
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Nothing could more painfully demonstrate what is wrong with Congress than the current financial crisis.

Among the Congressional "leaders" invited to the White House to devise a bailout "solution" are the very people who have for years created the risks that have now come home to roost.

Five years ago, Barney Frank vouched for the "soundness" of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, and said "I do not see" any "possibility of serious financial losses to the treasury."

Moreover, he said that the federal government has "probably done too little rather than too much to push them to meet the goals of affordable housing."

Earlier this year, Senator Christopher Dodd praised Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac for "riding to the rescue" when other financial institutions were cutting back on mortgage loans. He too said that they "need to do more" to help subprime borrowers get better loans.

In other words, Congressman Frank and Senator Dodd wanted the government to push financial institutions to lend to people they would not lend to otherwise, because of the risk of default.

The idea that politicians can assess risks better than people who have spent their whole careers assessing risks should have been so obviously absurd that no one would take it seriously.

But the magic words "affordable housing" and the ugly word "redlining" led to politicians directing where loans and investments should go, with such things as the Community Reinvestment Act and various other coercions and threats.

The roots of this problem go back many years, but since the crisis to which all this led happened on George W. Bush's watch, that is enough for those who think in terms of talking points, without wanting to be confused by the facts.

In reality, President Bush tried unsuccessfully, years ago, to get Congress to create some regulatory agency to oversee Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

N. Gregory Mankiw, his Chairman of the Council of Economic Advisers, warned in February 2004 that expecting a government bailout if things go wrong "creates an incentive for a company to take on risk and enjoy the associated increase in return."

Since risky investments usually pay more than safer investments, the incentive is for a government-supported enterprise to take bigger risks, since they get more profit if the risks pay off and the taxpayers get stuck with the losses if not.

The government does not guarantee Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac, but the widespread assumption has been that the government would step in with a bailout to prevent chaos in financial markets.

Alan Greenspan, then head of the Federal Reserve System, made the same point in testifying before Congress in February 2004. He said: "The Federal Reserve is concerned" that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were using this implicit reliance on a government bailout in a crisis to take more risks, in order to "multiply the profitability of subsidized debt."

Chairman Greenspan added his voice to those urging Congress to create a "regulator with authority on a par with that of banking regulators" to reduce the riskiness of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, a riskiness ultimately borne by the taxpayers.

Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac do not deserve to be bailed out, but neither do workers, families and businesses deserve to be put through the economic wringer by a collapse of credit markets, such as occurred during the Great Depression of the 1930s.

Neither do the voters deserve to be deceived on the eve of an election by the notion that this is a failure of free markets that should be replaced by political micro-managing.

If Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were free market institutions they could not have gotten away with their risky financial practices because no one would have bought their securities without the implicit assumption that the politicians would bail them out.

It would be better if no such government-supported enterprises had been created in the first place and mortgages were in fact left to the free market. This bailout creates the expectation of future bailouts.

Phasing out Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac would make much more sense than letting politicians play politics with them again, with the risk and expense being again loaded onto the taxpayers.

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To Farmer's Wife ... tax revolt, . . .
Farmer's Wife Location: TX
Reply # 142
Date: Sep 30, 2008 - 10:11 AM EST

george washington...
tax revolt, good idea, but how????

1. The 2 party system works well for the 2 parties; "We The People", ARE NOT invited to the party!
"We The People" are expected to pay the check and clean-up the mess!
(tax revolt, good idea, but how?)

2. D.C has devolved into an "Aristocracy", to which, 'WE' 'SERFS'! As 'Serfs': "WE Pay the Bill and Clean-up the mess!"
(tax revolt, good idea, but how?)

3. Independent Voters simply 'do not' get together; 'togetherness is diametric to being "Independent"!
(tax revolt, good idea, but how?)

4. A 'Tea Party'? Who to invite?
(tax revolt, good idea, but how?)

5. "We The People", must ask ourselves: "Are we here to Serve government?; Or, "Is government here to serve US?"
?Our? 'Declaration of Independence', ?Our? 'U.S. Constitution',
?Our? 'Bill of Rights'?
(tax revolt, good idea, but how?)

. . . we interrupt this message for a brief 'plea', for your reflection and consideration . . .

'A Revolution' Great idea! "but how"
Revolt w/Ballots NOT "Balas/Bolas"
(spanish for 'bullets')!
After 'Edmond Burke': Revolutions are like 'Forest Fires'! Once ignited, there is NO CONTROLLING THEM.
'A Revolution' Great idea! "but how"?

Of those selected? to 'lead
"OUR country" which one would You Trust with Your Life?
'A Revolution' Great idea! "but how"

As an independent, what are your thoughts on these utterances?

(tax revolt, good idea, but how?)
'A Revolution' Great idea! "but how"?

Serf Roy Stewart,
Phoenix AZ

Ron, Greyhawk, you are really delusional
Ron and Greyhawuk. Where, exactly, do you get your "history?". Not from facts, that's for sure. Everything I said is factual history - No way around it, I'm afraid. So what historian did you listen to? Hannity? Limbaugh? Sowell? give me a break. hannity and limbaugh are entertainers, pure an simple - greed drives them, not facts. Sowell is a proven dishonest broker with an axe to gring - why? no one knows He can't be trusted with anyones piggy bank. So please, give me a break on "revisionist history." That is purely the province of the right wingers who cannot stand that history proves them to be totally incompetent at EVERYTHING they stick their dirty, greedy fingers into. History proves it all the way through. Don't like it? Tough beans - learn to live with it as all incompetents must.

Let's not forget supply and demand
This mess would have happened with or without the subprime loans because the federal government injected too many buyers into the real estate market for a limited supply of houses starting in the mid-1990s. Thanks to the Community Re-investment Act, ever lower interest rates from the Fed, and executive pressure from Bill Clinton, real estate prices skyrocketed after a few years to the point that most people could not afford to buy a new house (or even qualify for the one they were living in). No surprise that the boom soon turned to bust. The subprime market has made the bust even messier, but it was the foolish crusade to make every American a homeowner that created the scarcity of housing and boom and bust in the market to begin with. Way too much demand for way too little supply. Never forget the laws of supply and demand and never let the government meddle this way in the marketplace again.

Hannity's America: Obama and Friends
a History of Radicalism

It is imperative that anyone who has any doubts about Obama's connection to the radical over throw of America watch this program. I watched it this evening with my husband and realized that Barack's connection to Ayers and Acorn are a real threat to our country. I am not talking about passive change here. These are the kind of folk who go beyond forging votes. They actually threaten people who are in their way.

If any of you are upset at picking up the tab for the sub-prime mortgage fall out, Acorn and Ayers is where it all started. If you think it's bad now, if Obama gets elected, any decent American will watch and be forced to be a part of the change to socialism where we will be paying more and more taxes to subsidize others and there will a huge government in our face...just like Russia.

If you value your freedom and really want to see the truth behind BO, watch Hannity's program. You'll walk away with the shakes.

Thomas Good column
As always

Reply to Ron
Ron, Dan is ignorant, or Dan is on the receiving end of some this Deadbeat Mortgage bailout plan. There are only two blocs of folks who vote Liberal Democrat: Deadbeats who expect taxpayers to pay their way out of some perverted sense of entitlement, or Limo Liberals who inherited monies from others who actually worked for it, and want to feel a sense of superiority by claiming to care for the under classes, but would not urinate on a supposed poor person if he or she was on fire.

Then, you have the Marxist Union Leaders who coerce their memberships to vote for Liberal Democrats, because Union Leaders and Liberal Democrats want power and use corruption and violence to achieve it.

Giving Loans To Deadbeats
The Liberal Congress and a Liberal President, Jimmy Carter, started all this insanity. It is the Marxist belief that folks who do not work ought to have the same perks as those who do work.

This Deadbeat Welfare Mentality is what has happened to this country. The Democrats created a permanent welfare recipient voting bloc.

These idiots passed all these bogus laws that set the current rules that lead to this mess.

Freddie and Fannie are two of these bogus outfits that Liberals Created and were used to funnel bad debt mortgages into, and of course the CEO's of these outfits got out with their golden multi-million parachutes, gave Obama and Other LIberal Democrats Campaign Contributions and other Bribes and Payoffs, then said, "Oh yeah, we are bankrupt, here is the bag of garbage deadbeat loans we bought. Pass them on to the old 70 percent of Americans who work and pay taxes. Our job is done."

This is pretty much how it went. And now with this bail out plan, deadbeats still get a free ride.

Dan...you really need to stop...
Quoting from the Liberals Guide to Revisionist History. It makes you look ignorant. :)

Wrong again
Nothing could more painfully demonstrate what is wrong with Thomas Sowell than this grossly biased article. Tommy pulls a few random democrats out of the air and blames them for all the woes of the world.

In fact, Reagan started the banking/investment system down the path to ruin in the 1980's with his deregulation of the S&L's. They crashed by 1988 and we (taxpayers) spent 600 billion to bail them out? Sound familiar? By the way, John McCain was directly inplicated in this by taking bribes from Keating to get the legislation passed. What goes round, comes round!.

Then the Federal Reserve under Reagan and Bushie 1 bored some big holes in the banking laws seperating commercial banks and investment banks so they could buy each others "products" (actually scams). Then the REPUBLICAN CONTROLLED congress AND Bill Clinton, repealed the Glass Steagal act and once and for all eliminated the distiction between banks and investment houses.

On top of that, there is absolutely NO regulation of the securities industries. Never has been. Then Bushie 2 refused to regulate fake loans and the game was on.

All this led to the current "crisis." Basically the big boys turned out to need adult supervision and without it they went to the cleaners. Unfortunatly it does not stop with them and will affect all of us.

So, Tommy, why is it that a Ph.D. economist does not understand all this and prefers to blame a few random democrats for all our woes?

None of these were "communists" (are there really still people who seriously call people communists?!?!), but people very eager to do the dirty work to degregulate the financial markets for their real clients, and to make a few bucks on the side. Just greed, pure and simple.

Exactly what is your agenda Tommy? Please inform us!!

SARAH PALIN MEDIA MAVERICK
Hell even P Diddy is starting to support Sarah Palin!!! See his video support for her here: http://www.fundable.com/groupactions/groupaction.2008-10-0 3.8294926272

And while you are there, make sure to buy a copy to show how popular she really is!!

ditto Rikd57 in Indiana
It is a sellout.

As for banking, you can still get loans the old fashioned way. You have a decent credit history, are not too strapped with debt already, and have an income that can support the payments.

It was Liberal Democrat legislation and rules that put the taxpayers at risk when they told banks, bogus mortgage companies, etc. that Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae loans would be backed up by taxpayers and that the bogus lenders and subprime lenders could sell homes to deadbeats. The bogus mortgage companies like Countrywide, (Obama's Campaingn Contributors) jumped on this bandwagon, made all the profits they could on sells, and went belly up leaving their bogus mortgages in the hands of other banks that handed it off to Freddie and Fannie, and Freddie and Fannie CEO's Like (Frank Raines, Obama Buddy, advisor and Contributor) who cooked the books to make themselves look solvent, while actually holding many bogus mortgages that could never have been let under normal banking rules, and then after Fannie and Freddie Criminal CEO's got their Bonuses, they said, "Oh by the way, we are bankrupt", and the Congress Came to The Rescue. And the rest is history. That was the beginning of this fiasco we are now in. It was created, engineered and sold as a bill of goods to Us Taxpayers By Liberal Democrats, period. And, everytime that Senator McCain or other Republicans told the congress we better do something, he got shouted down for years by communists like Harry Reid.

Obama, Reid, Pelosi, Schumer, Frank, Dodd, and the rest of these Criminal Communists kept this fiasco and spending spree going, and now they lie and the MSM spreads the lie that the Republicans did it.

That is a lie. And, a person with good credit, and is not a credit risk can still get loans. Deadbeats cannot. As it should be.

McCain should pick Sowell...
To make some ads criticizing Obama's economic policy. Then he should offer him a prominent role in his administration if he wins.



Off with their heads
Dodd and Frank need to be put out to pasture. Get the foxes out of the hen house before the chickens can't come to roost any more.

Mary -
Short Answer - no.

They would have needed Democratic votes in order to pass anything. Things failed along party lines.

Just like last night when the Democrats had to have at least 60 votes to pass the bailout. They have the majority, but if the vote last night had been all Dems YES and Repubs NO - the bill would have failed.

confused
if bush and other republicans tried to reform this, shouldn't they have been able to when it was a republican-controlled congress for 6 out of the last 8 years? i'm confused.

BAILOUT OR SELLOUT??
SOLD OUT !! NOT BAILED OUT!!
Posted by rikd57 on Thursday, October 02, 2008 3:30:13 AM
America is being SOLD OUT, not BAILED OUT!!
The old adage "when you need credit the most is when it's hardest to get" is often true because the potential borrower is considered a greater risk. What this so called bailout does is give credit to corporations who have proven to engage in risky, if not fraudulent, business and financial practices. Board members of WAMU who gave $20 million to a departing CEO should not be bailed out -- they should be jailed -- and that without bail!
Those same bankers tell financially strapped Americans "Sorry, but you'll have to find another way..." should be told that now.
Is it just me, or does anyone else hear blackmail in the threats issued by our Government officials when they say, "If you don't bail us out, then we won't give you loans to buy cars or houses,,"?

The Comedy Club in Washington
I must observe that to watch Congresslady Pelosi, Congressman Frank, Senators Reid and Dodd pontificate about the blame for this fiasco resting on our current President .... reminds me of their Communist predecessors who predicted that a lie told oh so many times would become truth.
For liberals perhaps, but NOT for moi! Thanks Dr. Sowell for the truth. Sadly my liberal friends will have NONE of it.
tbrown - Hot Springs

United Socialist States of America???
If you haven’t seen this yet,

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/k6KUDv1wzraWhwlBt1

Please take the time. Ex-KGB Yuri Bezmenov talks about Communist strategy in America.

Excellent Article, Dr. Sowell!!
"affordable housing" is such a farce! It is just a catch phrase invented by socialists to justify the redistribution of wealth.

If an American cannot find a place to live, they are not willing to adapt. Housing is always available for those willing to adapt.

Unfortunately, we have created a Welfare State that creates an entitlement mentality of zero toerance for adapting: America owes you a living. Instead of fighting your way to better conditions, one is encouraged to simply demand that the State fix your life for you.

It is a wonder that we have any entrepeneurers at all. Heck, O'Reilly has so much as condemned speculators, the definition of an entrepreneurer, as evil. We have created a whole society of non-risk takers: "give me rewards without my investment". Barf!!!

Reply to JMO51 and other Deadbeats
You stooges who are on the Liberal Bandwagon are of either two clases of individuals who love the Marxist Obama and other Marxists in the Congress.

You are either a deadbeat, no matter what race, color or citizen status. A deadbeat is a deadbeat. The other class that are on the Liberal Obama Bandwagon are the Limo Liberals, who have already gotten rich off somebody eles's labors, and now want to make themselves seem less guilty by supporting a lying bunch of communists who pretend they care about the poor.

Well, many of the poor in this country are poor and remain poor because they lack the initiative to work.

I work everyday and pay my own way. I do not have much in the way of material possessions, but I own what I have, because I do not get or ask for credit to buy things I do need and cannot afford.

I see folks on welfare everyday out and about with cell phones, the latest Nikes, nice car, nice clothes, drinking and smoking, etc. and at the same time, receiving subsidized housing, food stamps, free medical care, and subsidized untility bills. Subsidized by who? Me and every other honest and hardworking citizen out here, who rent because we cannot afford to buy, even if we do get asked all the time. Buy this house, we can make you a deal you cannot refuse. Well, I know my own ability and willingness to pay for something I do not need.

I am perfectly happy with my rented and small 4 room 60 year old house. It is something that I can afford and pay my own way with Cash.

Try it sometimes, you might be surprised what it does for your dignity, self respect and integrity to be responsible for youself, and quit selling your souls to the Government Bail Outs, who bought your souls for a welfare check. I do not care what color you deadbeats are. A deadbeat is still a deadbeat. Deadbeats have no color, religious, or ethnic barriers.

And Limo Liberals like that Narcissist Obama is the worst sort of Sell Out.

Reply to JMO51 and other Illiterates
You stooges who are on the Liberal Bandwagon are of either two clases of individuals who love the Marxist Obama and other Marxists in the Congress.

You are either a deadbeat, no matter what race, color or citizen status. A deadbeat is a deadbeat. The other class that are on the Liberal Obama Bandwagon are the Limo Liberals, who have already gotten rich off somebody eles's labors, and now want to make themselves seem less guilty by supporting a lying bunch of communists who pretend they care about the poor.

Well, many of the poor in this country are poor and remain poor because they lack the initiative to work.

I work everyday and pay my own way. I do not have much in the way of material possessions, but I own what I have, because I do not get or ask for credit to buy things I do need and cannot afford.

I see folks on welfare everyday out and about with cell phones, the latest Nikes, nice car, nice clothes, drinking and smoking, etc. and at the same time, receiving subsidized housing, food stamps, free medical care, and subsidized untility bills. Subsidized by who? Me and every other honest and hardworking citizen out here, who rent because we cannot afford to buy, even if we do get asked all the time. Buy this house, we can make you a deal you cannot refuse. Well, I know my own ability and willingness to pay for something I do not need.

I am perfectly happy with my rented and small 4 room 60 year old house. It is something that I can afford and pay my own way with Cash.

Try it sometimes, you might be surprised what it does for your dignity, self respect and integrity to be responsible for youself, and quit selling your souls to the Government Bail Outs, who bought your souls for a welfare check. I do not care what color you deadbeats are. A deadbeat is still a deadbeat. Deadbeats have no color, riligious, or ethic barriers.

And Limo Liberals like that Narcissist Obama is the worst sort of Sell Out.

Reply to Liberals, generally
Your Party, the Liberal Democrat Marxists, beginning with Jimmy Carter, created this mess and all through the years, it got expanded by more mindless legislators who were pandering to voters.

It was an insane idea to begin with. Banks and others extend credit based on the ability to pay and the likelihood that you will.

To throw away all the rules involving banking and then using the taxpayers to take up the slack is the kind of legislation and rules that lead to this meltdown.

When Enron and World Com failed, due to bogus accounting and fraud, civilians were indicted and went to prison.

The Freddie Mack and Fannie Mae CEO's did exactly the same thing. They lied to make their businesses look solvent and profitable so as to make huge paychecks and bonuses, and the Liberal Democrats shielded them all the way. And, now that Idiot Marxist Obama, has named Frank Raines, the CEO of Fannie Mae, as his Chief Economic Advisor. This is the Same Frank Raines who cooked the books at Fannie Mae (Lied) and walked away with tens of millions, while leaving the Tax Payers to hold the bag, and this Fannie and Freddie Frauc that lead to this meltdown. These institutions gave millions of dollars to Obama and Other Liberal Democrats in congress as Hush Money.

The Liberal Democrats made this mess, and now they blame it on Republicans and the President.

This is a lie and I do not care how much that the MSM and that lying bunch in Congress: Biden, Obama, Pelosi, Reid, Dodd, and that child molestor, Barney Frank. They are responsible for this mess, and now they point the finger of blame at Republicans.

Get a life. When we elect McCain-Palin on November 4, we, the people are going to demand that criminals such as Raines and others who lied and started this mess, go to Federal Prison where they belong, after they pay back the monies they personally stole.

Truth Hurts:

Before CRA and the discovery that banks were not risk-averse but racist, did subprime loans comprise a significant proportion of mortgage backed securities? Enough for large-scale defaults on sub-prime loans to cause this crisis? And are the subprime loans that are now in default or danger of default all taken out by minorities, or was the CRA the beginning of a greatly expanded subprime loan market catering to unqualified minorities and non-minorities alike? I'm an engineer, not an economist, so I'm just asking.

JM051
Well that is too bad as it means we do not agree at all to any productive extent

In our discussion regarding how many factors contributed to our current situation you seem to agree but then say:

"I blame the Conservative Policies of the Bush Administration, Reregulation and lack of oversight."

with, apparently no understanding that that is every bit as one sided and partisan as the position you claim Conservatives take and you abhor:

"Where I have a problem with ideological conservatives like Sowell is that they can't get beyond the Dems are evil commies and Conservatives are always true blue and right."

When you get beyond your BDS perhaps we can converse again.

Market failure?
In reality isn't this just another case of the failure of centralized control over the marketplace? Please explain to me how the Community Reinvestment Act, and other brainless interferences from idiots who have never had to meet a payroll or satisfy a customer, differs from Soviet style "free markets".

Dave
I agree with so much of what you said. Everytime I have to call about my computer I get India and I'm mad right then and there that half the time I just hang up. I was told my dear old Dell that I would alway get service for my XpS right here in the good old USA a lot of good the words were and if I wanted to speak Spanish I'd call Mexico. When are they going to get selling out our Country?