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Friday, November 07, 2008
Oliver North :: Townhall.com Columnist
Protect and Defend
by Oliver North
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GULFPORT, Miss. -- "We're the heart of the U.S. military. Our sons and daughters serve, and our neighbors build military ships." That's how a fan put it this week as I autographed a copy of "American Heroes" for him during a book-signing session. Then he added, "I hope that doesn't change." He has reason for concern, as do those who work at nearby Pascagoula Naval shipyard or Keesler Air Force Base or who serve anywhere in our nation's uniform.

President-elect Barack Obama said on election night that "change has come to America." Though the next commander in chief has yet to announce exactly how he will do it, he clearly intends to change the commitments, capabilities and cost of America's military.

--Commitments: Candidate Obama made "ending the war and getting out of Iraq" the centerpiece of his foreign policy platform from the very beginning of his campaign two years ago. He never has recanted on his goal of "bringing our troops home within 16 months of taking office." He is also adamant that more U.S. and NATO troops are needed in Afghanistan.

Thanks to the courage and perseverance of young Americans in flak jackets, helmets and flight suits, the campaign against radical Islam in Mesopotamia is all but over. Iraqi soldiers and police now carry out most combat operations against Sunni and Shiite terrorists and militias. A phased pullout from Iraq will indeed free up U.S. combat units for Afghanistan, where they are needed.

But a "total pullout" from Iraq invites the theocrats in Tehran, who are the world leaders in exporting terror and are intent on acquiring nuclear weapons, to further ambition and adventure in the region. This week, Iraq's foreign minister, Hoshiyar Zebari, obviously concerned about a premature U.S. retreat, said that candidate Obama "reassured us that he would not take any drastic or dramatic decisions." In case the point was missed, he added: "When there is a reality check, I think any U.S. president has to look very hard at the facts on the ground. The gains that we have attained and won with hard struggle and a great deal of sacrifice need to be sustained."

Let's hope that before he pulls the plug on the "Land Between the Rivers" the new commander in chief will listen carefully to the counsel of Gens. David Petraeus and Ray Odierno in Iraq and David McKiernan in Afghanistan. Making decisions now about force dispositions after inauguration may well placate his far-left base but could well prove disastrous for the nation.

--Capabilities: Even before the election, leading Democrats in the House and Senate were prognosticating a "transformation" in U.S. defense capabilities. The two most recent Democratic presidents made similar promises. When Jimmy Carter came to office, he all but eliminated our human intelligence capabilities and ordered an across-the-board reduction of 15 percent in everything from ships to planes to "end strength" -- the number of soldiers, sailors, airmen, guardsmen and Marines in the services.

Bill Clinton did the same thing, only bigger. Half the Army's divisions disappeared, along with scores of ships and combat air wings. He also introduced the "don't ask, don't tell" policy to allow gays to serve in the armed forces.

The net effect of both presidents' cuts of capabilities was to embolden America's adversaries. Arguably, American troops still are paying in blood for the cost cutting done during the Carter and Clinton administrations. That may well be happening again, in an ever-more dangerous world.

--Cost Cutting: When the moving vans roll up to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. in January, it will be the first time since Richard Nixon took over from Lyndon Johnson that our nation has changed its commander in chief while at war. Yet leaks from the Obama transition team and Capitol Hill indicate that cuts in defense spending are a top priority.

Pulling U.S. troops out of Iraq would "save" $10 billion per month. Further "savings" can be found by cutting production of the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter, the F-22 Raptor, Virginia-class nuclear attack submarines, the V-22 Osprey and the DDG-1000 destroyer. Converting the national missile defense system back to a basic research program, eliminating two Air Force fighter wings, and putting a naval carrier strike group in mothballs would "save" hundreds of billions more. Rep. Barney Frank, chairman of the House Financial Service Committee, has called for a 25 percent reduction in the Pentagon's budget -- about $150 billion -- and said, "We don't need all these fancy new weapons."

Any of these cuts will have the effect of seriously reducing U.S. defense capabilities. One parochial example: The V-22 Osprey is programmed to replace all of the U.S. Marines' 40-year-old CH-46 helicopters. Without the Osprey, Marines will have to walk to the next gunfight.

In his first remarks as president-elect, Obama promised defeat to "those who would tear the world down." If that's what he really wants to do, prudence dictates that he ought not start by tearing apart our nation's defenses.

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We need an intervention....fast!
I will be bold enough to suggest that which must be done in response to a paralyzing Obama presidency.

If pervert-in-chief Barney Frank gets to reduce our military assets by 25%, that must be viewed by the Joint Chiefs as a move on the part of Congress to make the military's job of "protecting and defending" more difficult...if not impossible. If it is deemed that such action would be untenable, the Joint Chief's have the responsibility to notify the President that this can not be allowed. If Obama proves powerless, the Joint Chiefs must declare their position untenable to the American public. If the hue and cry is inadequate, The joint Chief must declare martial law and warn that power wil be seized from the President and Congress by sending liasons to both branches of government announcing their intentions if presented with such an untenable action. If the Congress and President remain resistant, power must be temporarily transferred to the Chief of Staff, and our military must be placed on an elevated defense condition.

Novel idea: Defend American.Borders
We have just had yet another choice between two possible commanders in chief both of whom are sympathetic to the invasion of the U.S. by illegals (ironically in such places as Los Angeles cheap immigrant labor has displaced many black workers). It is extremely dangerous to a nation’s future when political elites perpetually take the opposite view of the majority of voters on something so central as national sovereignty and environmental protection against staggering never-ending population increases.

Tom Andres
Sierra foothills

SO HE'S GOING TO DEFEAT
those who would tear the world down?
'WHO'?
The 'World according to b.H.obama'?
'White mens greed runs a world in need'?

We need an intervention.....fast
To: A son of liberty in Az. I like what you suggest, but do not think we have anyone with the gonads to pull it off. This election is testimonial to the "critical mass" of stupidity being achieved in American mental acumen - - the result of the dumbing down resulting from the government running the schools and any number of other "cause-and-effects" scenarios. Bottom line as Pogo used to say '...we have met the enemy and he was us...."

On target
Colonel North has it exactly right. Since Johnson left office, we've fallen into a dismal pattern.

Democrats gut the armed forces (often while expanding commitments) to free up more money for perks and transfer-payment programs. Eventually a majority grows tired of overpriced weakness and peril and votes Republicans in.

Republicans undertake the expensive and largely thankless task of rebuilding our defenses. But they not only fail to close the pork barrel; they also belly up to it themselves. Eventually a majority grows tired of overpriced strength and security and votes Democrats back in.

I wonder how big a mess the next Republican president will have to clean up.

Prudence on National Defense
My fellow Marine Col. North knows what he's talking about. He's one of the best defense analysts we have. We have enemies eager to capitalize on the slightest mistake a liberal and naive president would make, and cutting the defense budget imprudently would be disastrous. The liberal illuminati had better be listening to the guys who know what it takes to defend our country and its interests abroad.

Semper Fi, Colonel, and Happy Birthday!

Cut Military By 25%, no problem.....
Now that B-HO is Pres. elect I doubt the Dims will have a problem cutting the military by 25% since reinlistments and registrations will drop like a rock. What soldier would want to serve under this liberal socialist?

Common Defense, Common Sense
The Good Colonel knows as most Military Professionals do that without a Strong, Well Trained, Highly Motivated, Intellegent, Well Funded Military our National Security is jeopordized. Without a Strong Militay Citizens can not "Persue Happiness". This used to be "Common Sense". Keep up the good Fight Colonel! "Semper Paratus" 1SG, USA (ret)

Bush I
Deep, DEEP cuts to the military. Oh, right, it was Clinton's fault (even though he stopped the drop in military spending).

Google was invented so Cons could at least look up something.

When?
>the campaign against radical Islam in Mesopotamia is all but over<

When was the war in Iraq ever a campaign against radical Islam in Mesopotamia? If that were the objective, why replace Saddam, who held the Islamist extremists in check?
Remind us who set up the structure that allowed the Supreme Council for Islamic Revolution in Iraq to become, along with the equally radical DAWA party, the most powerful political entities in the Iraq government?

Stretch of reality again Ollie?
Declaring in any way that the executive decisions under the Carter and Clinton administrations--somewhow is affecting the blood of soldiers being shed today--isn't just an "arguable" statement--its a ludicrous one.

Let's not forget--under Clinton the Hum-Vee, increased Abrams tank units, advanced tactical fighter program, a host of marine amphibious/aerial capability, complete modernization and re-equip of field gear all were funded into fruition.

And as I recall--between and after Carter and Clinton there were a few other Presidents: Reagan, Bush 41, Bush 43---and for some time the GOP controlled congress.

Let's not confuse reasonable and prudent de-funding and reorganization--with liberal hatcheting of the budget (don't forget how Gramm-Rudman affected the military). The days of random across the board cuts are gone--exacting and seriously considered cuts in the budget are now the norm--thanks to Al Gore how redesigned the budgeting process for military organizations and the DoD.

Looks like the potential for patriotism and courage of our parties and our people--to transcend political divisions--and pursue the peoples work--- is being seruously dampened by the pundits who make a living trying to drive a wedge into the actions like Ollie North--to continue the highly profitable devisiveness.


Obama is still Naive and Child like
I'm sure that Obama's eyes were opened during his first National Security briefing, but even this Dose of Reality will not be enough to change his naive view of the World. He believes that he can just sit down and talk with the Iranians who have been working on obtaining a Nuke since the end of the Iran-Iraq war of the 1980's? I'm afraid that Mr.O is in store for even more Reality once the euphoria wears off after the coronation...

Ollie stop the lies
"...Bill Clinton did the same thing, only bigger. Half the Army's divisions disappeared, along with scores of ships and combat air wings. He also introduced the "don't ask, don't tell" policy to allow gays to serve in the armed forces..."

Look you convicted felon, who the ACLU helped get those convictions overturned on technicalities, I suspected that you didn't have either the guts or the courage to give the new guy a chance. You lie completely about WHY those Clinton cuts happened. You know darn well it was the Cold War wind down and wisely supported by both parties. The military Clinton provided Bush was strong enough to conquer two major countries in record time and to withstand all the abuse by the Bush regime without breaking. What have you posers left in your wake? An underequipped military and troops stretched to the breaking point and no money to fix it. I am not certain yet what will happen but your nonsense remarks certainly don't help. Too bad you were not man enough to offer real suggestions and answers.

By the way, Carter damaged the military but probably no more so than Bush the torturer. You failed the troops by not fighting for their equipment and their medical care - shame

What to do with that 25%
What will 'That one' do with the 25% cut from the military?
Maybe he'll use it to fund his proposed civilian army...let's call them the "Obama Youth".
Then we'll all be safe.

By the way, do any of you out there in the ether have the lyrics to "Kumbaya"? I need to start practicing for that great big world wide group hug after bho takes over.

they are flocking to recruiters
I do not what the promise of Obama but college educated white men from Democrat land are enlisting in the military. If it because of the promise cut in defense weapons while providing housing for veterans then at basic training reality will set in. If this is some feel good moment being directed by the democrats themselves to bog down recruiters to delay the signing up of those sincerely interested in serving our country. Obama can claim the military did not drop in the number of recruits it was the military that did not make it accessible for the modern soldier.

Join us American Patriots
The American Patriot to me is one who loves their Country and wish America no harm for any reason.

The American Patriot is male, female and children of every nationality, race, ethnic background and religion who wish America no harm for any reason.

The American Patriot are not a particular people from a particular place. They are the embodiment of the human spirit of freedom who wish America no harm.

The American Patriot ia proud of their flag and the Statue of Liberty which "welcomes your tired and your poor, the wretched refuse of your teeming shores, the homeless, tempest tossed" and wishes America no harm.

The American Patriot takes pride in the greatest Warriors in the history of man - the American Soldier and wish America no harm.

The American Patriot looks at their sons and daughters in uniform with tears in their hearts and pride on their faces as their children goes off to defend the greatest country ever on this planet and wish America no harm.

The spouse and children of the American Patriot with anxiety in their hearts and faces shining with pride watch as their American Warrior leaves to defend America.

The American Patriot lives in the most prosperous land in the history of the world.

The root of that prosperity can be found in the Declaration of Independence, which recognizes the God given right of each person to the pursuit of happiness and the right to self determination and wish America no harm.

The American Patriot does not want to weaken America in dangerous times for political reasons.

The American Patriot does not put ideology first and America second to harm it in hopes it will learn a 'lesson'.

God Bless America and its' Patriots!


NO APPEASEMENT TO MARXIST/OBAMA

COUNTER INSURGENCY!!!
HEADQUARTERS
CONSERVATIVE UNDERGROUND

MESSAGE: NO. 1 - 11-06-08

.....ATTENTION ALL CONSERVATIVES .....

.....Write, email or phone your Republican Senators and Congressmen and tell them that Conservatives do not want bi-partisanship or collaboration with the enemy ...the enemy being defined as Democrats, Liberals, Socialists or Marxists ...

.....Tell them, if they walk across the aisle, to just stay there because we are sick of RINOS and want them expunged from the Republican Party ...tell them that if they compromise Conservative principles, we will campaign against them in the primaries and not vote for them in the election nor will we donate to their campaigns ...

.....Deluge them with messages until the mid-term elections in 2010 ...

.....Conservatives must stand on principle, not seek favor with the opposition ...appeasement is just another word for surrender ...

.....COLOSSUS ...OVER AND OUT!

baseballdoc
Great idea.
Unfortunately I reside in Pennsylvania and have no conservative representation.

What are you smoking
If you think there is any hope for the U.S. military with this group of misfits you need to put down the bong. The democrats have shown their hatred for our military for the last 8 years. They are not going to have an epiphany at this time.
Ollie if you love your country and fellow military you will advise them to get out now. This guy is going to get them all killed.
This is no longer your fight. They have spit in your face.
Your love of country is admired by all conservatives. But we have lost and the anti-America, anti- military loons are in charge. Give it up. Turn out the light and go home.

MY GOSH,THE OUT LOOK DONT LOOK GOOD!
A RADICAL TYPE JIMMY CARTER AT THE HELM OF THE SHIP,WITH BARNEY FRANK AND JOHN KERRY ALL YELLING GIVE PEACE A CHANCE,AND NANCY POLISI AND HARRY REID AND HARRY POTTER SAYING TO THE IRAN DUDE CANT WE ALL JUST GET ALONG!THE NEWS MEDIA WILL BE THERE PRAISING OBAMA,FILMING THE NEW WHITE HOUSE PUP SNOOP-DOG!YELLING HAPPY DAYS!WITH THEIR WIERD SMILES AND THAT KOOL-AID GLAZE!OLIE ITS A NIGHT MARE!

Dont forget the Gaying of the Military
On his website pres Elect obama said he would allow LBGT people to serve openly in the military and eliminate dont ask dont tell.

And to mod mark when has the miltiary EVER not gone to war as "we are" and then adjusted tactics and doctrine accordingly?

Think of how many lives would have been saved in WWII if we had the jets and bombers and tanks we had at the END of the war at the start? And that is both number and quality.

Then throw in the tactical lessons learned. and a Lot of lives were lost in WW II while we figured that stuff out.

Tinsldr2@yahoo.com retiring from Army after 21 Active and 5 reserve effective date 30 June 09 Got the orders this week.

RIGHT ON BROTHER NORTH!
OLIVER NORTH IS A AMERICAN HERO!WE RESPECT BROTHER NORTH,SO FOR YOU WHO WHO DONT LIKE HIM GO HUG JOHN KERRY OR BARNEY FRANK OUR BARB THE WALTERS!YOU UN-AMERICAN B.HUSSEIN KOOL-AID DRUNKS GET OTA HERE!

go to
http://www.appleseed.org

and

http://www.rwva.org

Become a Patriot...become a Rifleman or Riflewoman!

Chi-town Rebel
"Date: Nov 7, 2008 - 10:28 AM EST What are you smoking
...Ollie if you love your country and fellow military you will advise them to get out now. This guy is going to get them all killed.
This is no longer your fight. They have spit in your face. "

Ollie spit on the Constitution and the marines when he took a coward's way out and lied to Congress. You folks liked the ACLU when they helped get his convictions thrown out on technicalities

"Your love of country is admired by all conservatives..."

who clearly put words over actions

Dear LORD help us
I just can't get over the feeling that something large, long and barbed is being shoved into the orifice that is an exit only. Every time I hear Hussein open his sewer and spew for another load of crap, it makes me want to puke. This is our country given to us by the GREAT ARCITECT OF THE UNIVERSE, which we must take care of and defend from all enemys; foreign AND domestic and we appoint someone to run and govern it. Believe it people, the president of the United States of America works for us. The leftwingdings came out in mass; it is appauling that after all of his friends came to light, his voting record and what he has planned for us that they still put him in office. Let's face it people, we are all about to get it right in the ole bung; will that be with or without a little spit.

Tinsldr2
"Date: Nov 7, 2008 - 10:54 AM EST Dont forget the Gaying of the Military
On his website pres Elect obama said he would allow LBGT people to serve openly in the military and eliminate dont ask dont tell."

It will be traumatic for a bit but then ok just like when women joined in big numbers and by the way their are lots of gays in now

"And to mod mark when has the miltiary EVER not gone to war as "we are" and then adjusted tactics and doctrine accordingly?"

Answer the first five years of stay the course for the most part

"...Then throw in the tactical lessons learned. and a Lot of lives were lost in WW II while we figured that stuff out..."

But I have a question would Bush the torturer have invaded Iraq if the military was smaller and less ready? My guess is yes. No we need a military how big is really open for discussion. If the economy is not repaired the military will not be effective - you know that

"Tinsldr2@yahoo.com retiring from Army after 21 Active and 5 reserve effective date 30 June 09 Got the orders this week. "

Congratulations and thanks for your service. I mean that.

Go Ollie Go!
Looks like the military will suffer again, at the hands of the socialist in command. I'm sure all the money saved from the cuts in the military will be spread amongst all the well deserving "hard working" non tax paying Obamites. Moving all our forces into Afghanistan gives the "chosen one" the opportunity to unite all the worlds militaries under the command of the UN. No more US leading the way, and no more sovriegnty. Change we can believe in! It just keeps getting better for the left.

A_son_of_liberty is no fan of Liberty?
Son Are you a moron? This idiot wrote "The joint Chief must declare martial law and warn that power wil be seized from the President and Congress by sending liasons to both branches of government announcing their intentions if presented with such an untenable action. If the Congress and President remain resistant, power must be temporarily transferred to the Chief of Staff, and our military must be placed on an elevated defense condition. "

You are not a conservative or even an American patriot if you could EVER consider such rubbish. A Conservative and fan of liberty LOVES our constitution and does not want to see a military coup overthrow that Constitution.

The first duty of the officers in the Military is to protect and Defend the Constitution of the US against all enemies foreign and domestic. Notice we do not pledge to defend AMERICA, we pledge to defend the CONSTITUTION.

You can not VIOLATE the constitutional transfer of power and Presidential and Congressional oversight and authority over the military in the name of Protecting America.

While one can deplore what the newly elected regime will do, cutting the military IS constitutional.

What makes us a great country is not the land as beautiful as it is, and is not the people (who can be vapid at times), and it is not even the military that I Love, but what makes us great is the Constitution.

If the President and congress act in accordance with the constitution then the Army officers will obey even if we dont like it or agree. many will retire and many will speak out but armed disobediance is NEVER an option.

Go live in some third world military dictatership son and grow up.

I dispise most of what Pres (elect) Obama stands for but he will be CIC and will be the Constitutional President of ALL Americans.
Tinsldr2@yahoo.com

All of the Obamaniacs will rejoice
once the Great One and his leftist illuminati cronies start cutting the military and pulling our troops out of Iraq. What will be sad, however, will be watching our country's security suffer and our enemies prosper.

Tinsldr2
"...The first duty of the officers in the Military is to protect and Defend the Constitution of the US against all enemies foreign and domestic. Notice we do not pledge to defend AMERICA, we pledge to defend the CONSTITUTION."

well said very well said!

"...If the President and congress act in accordance with the constitution then the Army officers will obey even if we dont like it or agree. many will retire and many will speak out but armed disobediance is NEVER an option...."

just as under the Bush regime so many officers did..

cuts the defense budget
One other thing that will be on the back burner and will probably not see the light of day again is the tanker program. My personal thought is that the KC 135 will either be 80+ years old when it retires or some of those old parts will suffer a major problem and the fleet will be grounded.

Also, the manned planes will be cut in favor of unmanned programs which will have a major impact on the country's defense. RPV's can only operate in a permissive enviornment. When their is a opponent with an air force, they will not be able to operate.

Jeff
"Date: Nov 7, 2008 - 11:24 AM EST Subject: ... What will be sad, however, will be watching our country's security suffer and our enemies prosper."

What you simply do not understand is your words above are EXACTLY what happened during the Bush Regime

Hal I owe you lunch
yes i wagered HAl lunch that we would win and he would lose on tuesday and yes I would honor the Bet if he ever comes to the south.

But on several points there is disagreement on what you wrote.

The big one of course is you wrote "would Bush have invaded Iraq if the military was smaller and less ready? My guess is yes"

So if you think the military was to small and not ready why cut it more? That makes no sense. And if he believes that there is a threat he has an obligation to confront it. We cut the size of the active force based on less of a threat from the cold war and now increased it based on new wars. No one knows what threats we will face in the future. Lets not cut more but lets prepare more.

With comparing gays in military to women in military I do not have a woman in my bathroom, showers and as a roomate in Iraq. Even though I am not a rapist, and would never be unfaithful to the wife, they dont let me shower with women. Now you and Obama want to subject ME to the same type of situation that I am not allowed to do to women?

And as for gay's serving now, that is fine but it doesnt bother me if i dont know about it. If I know a gay man is watching me the same way I watch a woman it makes me feel the same way a woman would if I was in their shower. And is a discrimination against me.

The military can not hire lots of people for the good order and discipline of military ranks. No fatties in the Army, must pass admission tests, background checks, no members of extremist groups like KKK, or those with gamg tattoos cant join. Gays can but just need to keep their sexual pref to themselves. Once they announce their desires, then it has a negative effect on good order and discipline.

mike
"Date: Nov 7, 2008 - 11:30 AM EST Subject: cuts the defense budget
One other thing that will be on the back burner and will probably not see the light of day again is the tanker program..."

I don't think so but let's see. I am wondering who gets the contract.

"...Also, the manned planes will be cut in favor of unmanned programs which will have a major impact on the country's defense. RPV's can only operate in a permissive enviornment. When their is a opponent with an air force, they will not be able to operate. "

Well let's see. We have the problem of over 400 fighters grounded because the wings fall off. RPVs know no fear which is a plus but the experts can fight that out. Myself, I am torn but coming from the fighter world I am somewhat prejudiced

Stop Attacking Col. North
LTCol. Oliver North USMC(ret.) is one of the best military analysts we have. North not only has combat experience himself, but did duty as an intelligence expert and operator. He also stays in touch with the men and women who provide the boots on the ground today.

We cannot gut our military and expect it to fulfill all the roles its civilian masters demand.

Semper Fi, Ollie

Tinsldr2
"Date: Nov 7, 2008 - 11:33 AM EST Subject: Hal I owe you lunch
yes i wagered HAl lunch that we would win and he would lose on tuesday and yes I would honor the Bet if he ever comes to the south."

I will most likely do that early next year but let me buy you lunch you are an old retired guy now like me LOL

"But on several points there is disagreement on what you wrote.

....So if you think the military was to small and not ready why cut it more? That makes no sense. And if he believes that there is a threat he has an obligation to confront it..."

I don't think that at all. My point is I have heard the far left saying if the military had not been as large and as ready as it was then Bush would not have invaded Iraq. My point is he would have done it anyway. the size of the military must be based on the size of the threats and the ability of the country to support it. not a simple balance.

"..We cut the size of the active force based on less of a threat from the cold war and now increased it based on new wars. No one knows what threats we will face in the future. Lets not cut more but lets prepare more..."

Let's review the real threats and the force requirements. This will be the battle DOD will have to fight out.

"With comparing gays in military to women in military ... Now you and Obama want to subject ME to the same type of situation that I am not allowed to do to women?..."

Actually no we do not but the gays are already there and you know it. personally I don't think the youngsters have the concerns we older types do. I am just saying, having been there when women entered, I am hearing the exact same type arguments now


Tinsldr2
"...The military can not hire lots of people for the good order and discipline of military ranks.... then it has a negative effect on good order and discipline...."

Sadly many more felons are entering service now. Besides I don't think gays in the military are a front burner issue with the Obama Administration too many other mil issues to deal with

donal1951
"Date: Nov 7, 2008 - 11:41 AM EST Subject: Stop Attacking Col. North..."

No! Read the above. If he ever cared about the troops he has always failed to show it. Ollie put himself over country before and he seems to still be doing that.

"..We cannot gut our military and expect it to fulfill all the roles its civilian masters demand..."

You gutted it already. Are you willing to pay higher taxes to rebuild the military? Valid question, please answer

Too Funny watch it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3_95F5e-Ac

What do we need?
For the foreseeable future the US military will be primarily engaged in low intensity/counter insurgency conflict against enemies who have no navy, air force, tanks, or heavy artillery. The Russians may throw tantrums, but they are a shadow of what they were 20 years ago. The Chinese evidently can't match our current technology. They also hold billions in US bonds which is as great a threat as any direct military action. Syria, Venezuela, and even Iran can't stand up to our current capabilities. It's not clear that we need two new fighter planes and a class of $3 billion, 16,000 ton destroyers.

The V-22 is a perfect example of everything that is wrong with military procurement. It's a marvelous toy, but it's been development since 1981, it's killed several dozen Americans, it's something like eight time over budget, and it doesn't meet it's original performance specifications. Dick Cheney tried to kill this turkey in 1989. The only reason the marines have 40-year-old helicopters is because they decided to spend several decades pouring money and lives down a rathole.

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1665835-1,00 .html

Ignoring what could have been done
Clinton treated the first trade tower bombing as a criminal act and not an act of war, he then brushed off a outright declaration of War against the USA by Usama bin laden in 1998!

You'd think Clinton would have put the money he cut from the military into a war on terror long before they declared war against us. Clinton underestimated them.

9/11 was an outrage, and if we make cuts, pull out of Iraq/Afghanistan and leave the middle east we do it at our own peril. Terrorists do not have a "country", they will be glad to infiltrate from within OUR country. And they may be already.

If Obama cuts and runs he will unravel all that our military has accomplished. We must continue the fight to win the hearts/minds of the people of the middle east. The ONLY way we can counter terrorist propaganda, is to show the people it's not true, and get them to join our side in the effort to eradicate terror.




So you agree
>We must continue the fight to win the hearts/minds of the people of the middle east.<

Then you agree with Afghan President Karzai that we need to cease dropping bombs on Afghan civilians?

NO PRAYERS FOR OBAMA or HITLER
Obama is not a natural US born citizen and therefore got this election through trickery and coercion. He is not my president, only in name.

Obama used the name of Jesus Christ to try to get the Christians to vote for him and he used a photo op at the Holy Wailing Wall in Jerusalem to get the Jewish vote. For 20 years he attended a “church” where the pastor cursed and used God’s name in vain from the pulpit, to get the black vote. In my opinion, he might as well of used the “F” word in the “sanctuary,” which I’m sure he has anyway, just never got on tape. And it is very clear about how he and Obama feel about Israel and the Jews.

Am I to assume you’d also instruct the German Christians back in Hitler’s day to pray for the “wisdom and safety of Adolf Hitler? Brothers and sisters, it’s time to check yourselves on that one.

There are far more scriptures in complete contrast to praying for a monster like Obama. I don’t recall Jesus calling for prayer for Caesar, Herod, or even Judas for that matter. Peter did not pray for Ananias and Saphira who came to him with a lie on their lips; and the early Christians did not pray for Nero’s safety and wisdom. In fact, Jesus said He only prays for the ones that the Father has given him, those who’s names are in the Lamb’s Book of Life.

AND I DON’T RECALL JOHN THE BAPTIST PRAYING FOR HEROD: HE SAT OUTSIDE HEROD’S GATES AND DECLARED TO HIM AND THE WORLD THAT HEROD WAS IN VIOLATION OF GOD’S LAW AGAINST ADULTERY. AND HE GOT HIS HEAD CHOPPED OFF FOR IT.

Now we have a man Obama that supports infanticide, homosexual marriage, Islam (praying to the moon god, which YWH forbids), racially divided churches, and splitting the land of Israel, and he accepts worship and adoration as a deity: all of which is far greater sin than Herod marrying his brother’s wife.

No, we’d better pray for the courage to stand in the faith against such a monster.

http://moniquemonicat.wordpress.com/2008/11/05/%E2%80%A2-no -prayers-for-obama/

MoniQue # 45
You may want to add to your list -- the lottery numbers 6-6-6 came up in IL the day after BO was elected too check it yourself--

http://www.illinoislottery.com/

To the liberals reading -- you've got to admit this was interesting. Coincidence? Perhaps, but still interesting.

Cutbacks
Many of Obama's promises will never come go fruition; they simply got him into the White House.

Once he is briefed he'll find out just how foolish it would be to cut our defenses right now...especially in light of Russia's recent bold moves.

You can't be a leader in defense if you don't keep up with new technologies and eliminate old out-dated models.

We're still waiting to find out what he really means by this "civilian" force he keeps talking about, but it sounds a bit ominous when he wants to enlist civilians into our defense system.

Still, I think once he finds out the realities of what is going on, he won't be so quick to cut 25% in Military spending...at least I hope!

The Democrats cut back on Military spending during the Clinton years and when we went into Iraq, we were sorely not prepared and it cost unnessary time, money and above all, lives. The Democrats should have learned from this.

Biden's Prediction
Joe Biden will be proven right for perhaps the first time in his career when the US is hit by the forces of radical Isalam who know a weak leader when they see one.

BHO's reaction will no doubt match his cult of personality. He will do what seems expedient to uphold his self aggrandizing image.

God help our military with BHO as their Commander In Chief.

MoniQue
>Obama is not a natural US born citizen<

You do realize that Hawaii, exotic and distant as it is, is part of the United States of America. Just because it's the 50th state doesn't relegate it non-US status.

William
What branch of MS13 do you belong to?

Here's wishing you, your name as ink on some gang banger's back in tribute to your early demise.

Late homey.

Simple minded dribble...
Subject: Common Defense, Common Sense
The Good Colonel knows as most Military Professionals do that without a Strong, Well Trained, Highly Motivated, Intellegent, Well Funded Military our National Security is jeopordized. Without a Strong Militay Citizens can not "Persue Happiness". This used to be "Common Sense". Keep up the good Fight Colonel! "Semper Paratus" 1SG, USA (ret)
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The qoute above. Having a strong military capable of responding--and winning is the best security.

But clearly even the salty old 1 Sgt. will agree there is a lot of waste in R&D, deployment of weapons, weapon systems, that our enemies won't have for another 50 years. Eisenhower himself, warned us of the harm of creating an economy that is too dependent on the military industrial complex (missiles, tanks, warplanes, ships) because it may force us economically to become a hostile neighbor in the world--too quickly responding with hard power--when soft power may do the trick in time.

Great thoughts--from a great man.

Wake Up
Have any of you known a "puppett"? Well now you do! Just WHO is "taking our country from the inside out"? That is what "they" said they would do and we didn't notice until it was too late and now we have to go to sq. one and ask who is willing to die to take the country back to the wonderful, free country that it has been.
Who in the He!! has their birth certificate "sealed" so that know one knows the real place of birth? Who would say there are alot of flaws in our Constitution, when it has worked for 200 years! Who is this Civilian Security Force more powerful than the police that he has stated? Aren't you dimwits listening to what he is saying.
God Bless Oliver North! Speak while you are still free!
Karen

WHEN OUR president elect
was asked at the Saddleback Forum if he believed in evil and to define or give an example, his answer icluded that there was 'evil' on our (Americas) streets. Well he should know, he organized them.

Thank you Ollie
For the balanced article.

I can't, for the life of me, understand why weird liberals come to post here, such as William in NJ. Why can't they stick to the NUMEROUS looney-left websites that cater to the filth that they just can't wait to post? Do they just wake up early every morning and hope on their computer, seeking out ever chat room and blog area, just to have the pleasure of posting filthy language? Why does every chat board have to descend into filth?

If William in NJ is truly a Jewish person, we (Christians) happen to love your God, Yahweh, Elohim, Jehovah, El Shaddai, with ALL of our hearts and would NEVER curse Him for any reason. In fact, real Christians love Israel and support the Jews with everything in us. Why do you insist on cursing the Lord that we love, just because you don't believe in Him?

What a sick joke.
"the campaign against radical Islam in Mesopotamia is all but over."

Get real. You can't fight ideologies with bullets.

The fight for the hearts and minds has BEGUN as we commit our nation to hope, peace, and genuine dialogue.

Oliver North should be in jail for his role in sponsoring terrorism in the 80s. That we let him spout toxic gibberish online is a shame on our culture.

AMERICAN HERO AND PATRIOT

.....COLONEL NORTH ...

.....You are a true American hero in my book ...

.....I was part of MAAG in 62/63 based at Tan Son Nhut but I spend most of my time in Cambodia and Laos on Air America ...

.....Ignore the spiritual descendents of the maggot infested hippies of the sixties like William ...they are gad flies that troll this site to leave their slime trails and then crawl back into their holes to hide .....COLOSSUS

This guy Oliver North is an Iranian SPY
He is working for Ahmedinejad. He was and we did not forget Iran-Contra.

My 10 + Predictions
My 10 predictions in the next four years: 1) Iran will acquire nuclear weapons. 2) Korea will be partially appeased by capitulating to its demands and providing huge amounts of aid at taxpayers’ expense. 3) The economy will not bounce back for four years, three if hope for a GOP win in 2012 looks do-able. 4) Iraq will disintegrate into chaos after we prematurely pull-out. 5) Afghanistan becomes a hopeless mission and Bin Laden is either not caught or he moves in the White House’s (that once honorable edifice probably needs to be renamed) Lincoln bedroom. 6) Africa, especially Kenya, will be recipients of huge amounts of aid at U.S. taxpayers’ expense. 7) At least two ultra liberal Supreme Court judges will be named with disastrous long-term consequences to the Constitution and its precepts. 8) Welfare of every kind and imaginable by perverse leftist minds will be rampant. 9) Taxes will be the highest in our history. 10) The pretender will be ignobly voted out of office in 2012. For an 11th, I would say it will take at least eight years to undo the damage done but maybe a large part will be irreversible. For a twelfth: Publicly, the international community will laud the pretender for his “brilliant diplomacy”. Privately, they will gloat, laugh, and point at the gullible buffoon in the White House and the greatly reduced influence of the U.S. on the world’s stage.
I could go on with vastly negative effects on rights-to-life and all the ethical and moral issues which will be violated to the extreme but I rather not inflame the rhetoric to the point of citizens mobilizing to remove the pretender by force.

To William in NJ
What the heck are you talking about? I hope what you said is a joke. Jews supported Obama with lots of money? Maybe some but not this one. Don't generalize. Yea, yea, heard about the 78% - that was according to exit polls which are unrealiable. I wonder if the people taking the polls were dressed in military garb and clutching a night stick.
I belong to a national Republican Jewish organization - yes, such a thing does exist and it is very active nationally and in many cities.
No, we Jews don't have a concept of a Christ or Anti-Christ. However we do believe in good and evil and the ability of man to choose right. Our Moschiach (usually translated to messiah in English) is a man, who will be a great general and warrior and will win military victories. (For the record it is not Barack Hussein Obama.) The Moschiach is no appeaser.
Shabbat Shalom, y'all.

Oh, and I forgot to mention...
Love you, Colonel North!
We count on people like you to give us the truth because the mainstream media is way out in left field, figuratively and literally.

O. in AZ: You're absolutely right. I'd like to add that the nations of the world are not only pleased as punch that "we" think we have voted ourselves a "free" lunch...and tank of gas, mortgage payment, car payment, health insurance and a big fat check for spending money every month. They are happy that we will be as miserable as they are, working 75% of the year to pay for the "free" stuff. That is, those of us who do work.

O's Predictions
You're right on. But if you really want to see the future just look at Obama's home state. It is a disaster. Republicans here are all losers so this state is ruled completely by democrats. Our whole budget consist of nothing but social services. We are closing state parks and historical landmarks to pump more money into healthcare for illegals.
This is an anti business climate. Our soon to be indicted governor ran on the same platform as Obama. Punish, tax business and wealthy people. What isn't taxed they call fee's on everything. City, county and state are all democrats. Once this governor goes to prison. I'm sure we will get another democrat. Hopefully the next one knows something about governing. Unlike Obama and Blagojevich.
The worst problem we will face with Obama is he is inexperienced and still wet behind the ears. So far he hasn't shown much work ethics. So he will surround himself with con-men and sleaze bags. They will steal everything that's not nailed down.
So America get ready for a bumpy four years. God help us.

Be Prepared.

The Motto of the Boy Scouts.

Plan for the worst and hope for the best.

Me? As soon as I can, I'll be heading to the gun store and then I'll work to earn my Concealed carry permit.

Let's see, convert 401k into gold, prepare a bunker, start a vegetable garden in my yard.

Yeah, I'll make it. I'm going to depend on ME and not the Feds.

William #48
I cant even believe Idiots like you , 666, my you
guys scare me
Now he no just a Marxist but and ant-Christ
any way Fcuk Christ , he is dead ... william #48

=====================

Thanks William you just proved what I've said all along, one can not even mention coincidence or religion around rabid liberals like yourself losing it.

I scare you?! Good - I'm GLAD I scared you. You ought to be so scared you'd take a second look at civil discussion without religion bashing. Had you read my post I was actually being somewhat facetious, but I WAS offering FACT - I looked it up because I thought it was rumor, but FACT is Illinois lottery picked 6-6-6 the day after Obama was elected. Thanks again for replying so I could post it again!

Minor religion discussions freaking you out -- says volumes.



Ditto Scrap Iron in Tx
Ditto Scrap Iron in Tx. Be prepared. Better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it. Take that from a backpacker and patriot.

Oama is a Socialist
Obama and the Liberal Socialist Democrats plan to turn us fully into a socialist country. They socialized education years ago, and look at the shambles education is in where we have teachers who cannot speak the English language with appropriate grammar and cannot formulate a sentence, and at the same time giving Obama Pep Rally speeches to elementary, middle, and high schoolers, and taunting any kids who say that they like McCain. That is what is wrong with this country. Americans have been cowed down and intimidated with political correctness.

Maybe now that we have a black president, we could get rid of all this affirmative action and quota crap that has lowered the standards in schools so low now that our educational system ranks #27 in the world for academic outcomes. A mere 40 years ago, we were #3 in the world, but that was before Socialism in Education. The standards have been lowered every year since 1966. Check out SAT statistics and see the downward spiral in scores since then. Facts, but of course in this politically correct environment that these socialists have created, nobody wants facts. They want crap that makes your legs tingle and crap like that. Well, my leg is tingling when I see that we have done what Nikita Kruschev, the President of the old USSR, predicted. He said that Communists would take us over without firing a shot.

Greyhawk
I am praying for the end of race based affirmative action. We will be all better without it.

Suggestion-read A Brave New World. I re-read it again a couple years ago when I saw where our America was heading due to the devaluing of human life. I will be a real eye-opener!

I guss I wonder
With the expressed goal of emasculating the military what will a "President" Obama do. suppose all the folks who have enlistments up simply pack their bags and go home, will he decree "forced extensions?" Suppose all those he expects to encourage to 'voluntary' service dont appear? He has already changed his mind from "required service" to "goals of service". Maybe we bible loving, gun hugging folks should look to our powder and shot.

Victoria
"I can't, for the life of me, understand why weird liberals come to post here, such as William in NJ."

There are trolls paid by the libs to come here an create disorder. That's why you see the same rotating group of them posting 24/7 because that IS their job.

Regarding William, Obama IS an antichrist because he publicly advocates abortion and fights against saving babies born alive from botched abortions. Christ was pro-life. He also had no problem spending 20-plus years with a pastor/mentor who wanted to kill the white Jesus and replace him with a black Jesus.

PRESIDENT hussein
I was goin to try to be positive with my remarks, but it is damn near impossible to say anything about our situation that don't make me sick to my stomache. We Are Screwed! the only thing that we can possibly do is regulate how deeply we are penetrated. And then we are liable to go to prison. Good luck my fellow Americans.

If you're a fan of America's
military in all it's forms, you'll call your representatives and pressure them to fire all of the "private contractors" that our tax dollars are currently paying for.
Why? As a fiscal conservative you should be concerned that we're paying contractors about three times what we pay our volunteer soldiers to do the same job.
If the military were a company and you were the CEO, why would you out-source a job for 3 times the cost of doing it in-house?

If we as taxpayers can afford to pay so much, why not pay our soldiers 1.5 times what we pay them now and make their lives and the lives of their families better? Wouldn't that help retention? Wouldn't that help morale? Wouldn't that hep recruitment? Wouldn't that essentially create JOBS by hiring US soldiers, sailors and marines to do jobs that are currently being outsourced? While at the same time saving taxpayers money and increasing our military capacity?

Mr North. Please demand that our new commander in chief fire the contractors and hire more military for a higher wage.
Thanks

Remember Jimmy Carter???
At the end of Jimmy Carter's term 700 ships from the U.S. fleet were at port because their were no sailors to take them out to sea.

Reserve Units reporting for training sat in Classrooms for 8 hours a day for several days each year with no instructors of funding for training.

Pilots were unable to maintian skill levels because there was insufficent funding for jet fuel.

Want to endanger our safety? Elect a liberal.

Retired Geek: You Should Write A Book
Your 9:39 A.M. post "Join Us American Patriots" Is a great title, and you've got page 1 written; keep writing. Set it for release around June 2012. Just a thought, but more people should read your pearls. Lots of Americans have lost their way, and many of the young aren't being taught "Love of Country," and those Alinskites who have a strategic plan to shipwreck America and are executing it.

Hal Donoshite
Donohue writes, "Ollie spit on the Constitution and the marines when he took a coward's way out and lied to Congress."

Hal, there's more honor on Col. North's USED toilette paper than you'll ever have. And you're a coward too. What medals have you earned? What sacrifice have YOU ever made for love of America? What are you, 4'9"?

Lying to Congress

Someone should write a book about lying to congress or lying to Federal Investigators.

It could be titled "lying to Federal Government for idiots.

Folks heres how people get in trouble through no real fault of thier own.

Someone at the Federal Level opens and investigation.

They call you in for questioning. To the best of your knowledge you answer honestly.

5 months later they call you back down again. Again you answer the same or similar question honestly and to the best of your ability.

12 months later they call you back down for a third round. Again they ask you the same or similar questions and again you answer to the best of your ability as honestly as you can remember.

18 months later they again call you back and again you answer the same or similar questions to the best of your ability.

2 years later they again call you back and again as you did before answer to the best of your knowledge and ability as honestly as you can.

Then some smart a** investigator goes over the interviews and if he finds one sentence that is somewhat different than another you get indicted for lying to federal investigators.

Now think. Just try to tell a story about somethign that happened awhile ago the same way 5 times over a two or three year period.

I doubt there are few who could.

Corndog:
I think the name was supposed to be something like: National Internal Security Force.

But I'm in favor of "Youth Corps". After all, it worked fine for Hitler...
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