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Thursday, February 14, 2008
Ken Blackwell :: Townhall.com Columnist
The Real Obama
by Ken Blackwell
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“[C]ivilizational war is real, even if political leaders and polite punditry must call it by another name.”
--Robert D. Kaplan in the December 2001 issue of the Atlantic Monthly

It’s an amazing time to be alive in America. We’re in a year of firsts in this presidential election: the first viable woman candidate; the first viable African-American candidate; and, a candidate who is the first frontrunning freedom fighter over 70. The next president of America will be a first.

We won’t truly be in an election of firsts, however, until we judge every candidate by where they stand. We won’t arrive where we should be until we no longer talk about skin color or gender.

Now that Barack Obama steps to the front of the Democratic field, we need to stop talking about his race, and start talking about his policies and his politics.

The reality is this: Though the Democrats will not have a nominee until August, unless Hillary Clinton drops out, Mr. Obama is now the frontrunner, and its time America takes a closer and deeper look at him.

Some pundits are calling him the next John F. Kennedy. He’s not. He’s the next George McGovern. And it’s time people learned the facts.

Because the truth is that Mr. Obama is the single most liberal senator in the entire U.S. Senate. He is more liberal than Ted Kennedy, Bernie Sanders, or Mrs. Clinton.

Never in my life have I seen a presidential frontrunner whose rhetoric is so far removed from his record. Walter Mondale promised to raise our taxes, and he lost. George McGovern promised military weakness, and he lost. Michael Dukakis promised a liberal domestic agenda, and he lost.

Yet Mr. Obama is promising all those things, and he’s not behind in the polls. Why? Because the press has dealt with him as if he were in a beauty pageant.

Mr. Obama talks about getting past party, getting past red and blue, to lead the United States of America. But let’s look at the more defined strokes of who he is underneath this superficial “beauty.”

Start with national security, since the president’s most important duties are as commander-in-chief. Over the summer, Mr. Obama talked about invading Pakistan, a nation armed with nuclear weapons; meeting without preconditions with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, who vows to destroy Israel and create another Holocaust; and Kim Jong II, who is murdering and starving his people, but emphasized that the nuclear option was off the table against terrorists — something no president has ever taken off the table since we created nuclear weapons in the 1940s. Even Democrats who have worked in national security condemned all of those remarks. Mr. Obama is a foreign-policy novice who would put our national security at risk.

Next, consider economic policy. For all its faults, our health care system is the strongest in the world. And free trade agreements, created by Bill Clinton as well as President Bush, have made more goods more affordable so that even people of modest means can live a life that no one imagined a generation ago. Yet Mr. Obama promises to raise taxes on “the rich.” How to fix Social Security? Raise taxes. How to fix Medicare? Raise taxes. Prescription drugs? Raise taxes. Free college? Raise taxes. Socialize medicine? Raise taxes. His solution to everything is to have government take it over. Big Brother on steroids, funded by your paycheck.

Finally, look at the social issues. Mr. Obama had the audacity to open a stadium rally by saying, “All praise and glory to God!” but says that Christian leaders speaking for life and marriage have “hijacked” — hijacked — Christianity. He is pro-partial birth abortion, and promises to appoint Supreme Court justices who will rule any restriction on it unconstitutional. He espouses the abortion views of Margaret Sanger, one of the early advocates of racial cleansing. His spiritual leaders endorse homosexual marriage, and he is moving in that direction. In Illinois, he refused to vote against a statewide ban — ban — on all handguns in the state. These are radical left, Hollywood, and San Francisco values, not Middle America values.

The real Mr. Obama is an easy target for the general election. Mrs. Clinton is a far tougher opponent. But Mr. Obama could win if people don’t start looking behind his veneer and flowery speeches. His vision of “bringing America together” means saying that those who disagree with his agenda for America are hijackers or warmongers. Uniting the country means adopting his liberal agenda and abandoning any conflicting beliefs.

But right now everyone is talking about how eloquent of a speaker he is and — yes — they’re talking about his race. Those should never be the factors on which we base our choice for president. Mr. Obama’s radical agenda sets him far outside the American mainstream, to the left of Mrs. Clinton.

It’s time to talk about the real Barack Obama. In an election of firsts, let’s first make sure we elect the person who is qualified to be our president in a nuclear age during a global civilizational war.

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Obama inspires McCain retires
That's nice Ken, but the usual folks do not understand how McCain is despised by the base. He will lose and lose big.

Dems and the independents do not elect the best man for the job, they elect someone they like. People like Obama (like conservatives and some liberals liked Reagan)People don't like McCain. Republicans, go for who's turn it is. That's why McCain is even the presumptive nominee.

For example, I was at a conservative republican rally last night in Phoenix. Every time a pundit made an argument for McCain, there were 5 to 10 people with counter arguments. These are the grass roots folks that get out and vote and get others out to vote. It wasn't just a disagreement here or there. It is disdain. If McCain thinks the squishy middle will vote him in because conservatives have nowhere to go, well, he's got another think coming.

McCain has no base. There's little substance other than battle weary rhetoric about the war with McCain (all the reasons you have already read and heard - amnesty, gang of 14, judges, etc.). Obama,unfortunately, is striking a cord that conservatives don't understand, just as the Libs didn't and don't understand Reagan's appeal. (Remember, he is just an actor. There's no substance to Reagan, etc.) Folks, Obama is for real. He will wipe McCains's clock, because those who voted for him and put him where he is don't understand how political revolutions are created and what happens in them.

The base has heard the tired arguments about conservative values before and SCOTUS and on and on. But they do have the '76 model of Jimmy Carter. (Right or wrong, that is what they are looking to happen.)

McCain should retire before we go down by 45-47 states.

Obama is far left
Obama is as far left as they get. If the media is not going to explain that to people, then all of us need to get the facts out.

repubs can choose the dem nominee
But are we smart enough to all vote for hillary in the texas and Ohio primaries and insure the dems defeat in november?

Answer: No, we are not smart!

We prefer to cry like babies because McCain is not pure as the driven snow and miss the opportunity of a life time.

Obama, the real Racist

How can Mr. Hussein unite the country when he himself is a member of a hardcore racist church that boasts about black this, black that and puts the mother continent of Africa first before the USA and boasts about how unashamedly black they are. The preacher is a known far left leaning revolutionist type. If he was not a hardcore racist himself, then he would not be a member of this type of establishment.

Mr. Hussein has NO experience whatsoever in his entire lifetime of creating jobs or the knowledge on how economics works by his statements concerning raising taxes to pay for everything when this country is on the brink of bankruptcy. This man would be a disaster to the country's economy and jobs, even worse than Jimmy "The Smile" Carter.

This guy is the smoothest talking snake oil salesman to ever be on a TV screen. It is absurd how this guy has put all of his followers into such a hypnosis with his empty rhetoric of "change".

Link to Mr. Hussein’s “Racist” church:

Look at the focus on being "black" and "African" in Obama's and Oprah Winfrey’s church:

http://www.tucc.org/about.htm


How eloquent is he?
Well well, if Obama is a very charming speaker and a very eloquent one, then America is a toast!

I have watched the guy giving his speeches. More than a few dozens speakers I have ever seen are much much more eloquent than him, in business, politics, universities, and churches.

For MSM keep portraying him as an elegant speaker is pathetic. Objectively, his speaking ability is just good enough for a politician. Nothing more.

The fact that the left are so crazy about him is due to the fact that Hillary's dislike rate is about 50%. What do you expect from a two-men race when the other contender has 50% of dislike factor?



Young
Bush haters are desperate to be a part of something that they perceive is like the JFK days. Hillary supporters are desperate to have the Clinton shingle re-hung on The White House. Neo-Cons are desperate to move to the middle of the "big tent," and actual conservatives are dazed and desperate.

This election cycle is a parallel universe invading common sense. Houston, we've got a problem.

A Knight in shining socialism!
Yes he will bring all parties together as long as they leave their ethics, morals and party affilation behind and become what he is. Right now he is getting the anti-clinton vote, the dreamer and fantasy hand-out vote and the skin color vote so even with the huge clinton machine he will get the nomination but then comes the general election. So much time to unearth the sludge that is the real barak. It is a cake walk now but just wait a while and when the people see the real person inside the suit and behind the signs, even moderate democrats will cringe with fear of the socialist agenda. the general population has not seen a negative ad on this guy yet but they wil come and he will be challenged in the debates. He will attempt to hide but will find it impossible in the era of the 24 hour news cycle and the internet not to mention talk radio. It is a shame that if he were white he would have been eliminated already so hes rolling along on his skin color which tells alot about the new liberal. The disgruntled will be out in force to keep him out of the White House also so grumble now but I don't think any citizen who cares about the country will sit out election day to usher in a true socialist, I just can't see that happening.

Humblywise
Dear Humblywise,

Just a quick mention about the Carter thing. He was voted in on his integrity, and integrity we got for all things, including international politics. President Carter continues to serve as a delegate for the United States when asked for the many alliances he forged with wisdome, integrity, his Christian model of how leaders lead. So, in the aftermath of Nixon, we wanted integrity and we got it. Let no man say he was duped. And thank goodness for that, to prepare our country to believe in the presidency once again, pave the way for President Reagan. And President Carter and Mrs. Carter continue to serve the country, even humbly hammering in boards for their Habitat for Humanity caause. He was all good, all pure just not very threatening enough to handle strategic international politics without getting burned. He cared too much for anyone who might die in the crossfire, and caring too much just gets in the way of a violent world.

Favorless may be right
It is clear that B. Hussein Obama's policies have yet to be revealed, much less scrutinized. The MSM is so in love with this guy that they are afraid to explore what he really stands for, and against.

But, don't overestimate the nobility of the media, once the Obama political blood starts flowing, like pack dogs, the media will engage in the blood letting. Whether Obama can survive close investigation remains to be seen, but I doubt it.

As much as I, and every true conservative, hates to see a McCain presidency, it is preferable to either B. Hussein Obama or Hillery. Much preferable.

Uncle Ken
Hey Ken, some of your fellow election fraud buddies
are in jail in Ohio. When are you joining them? You are the least person who should be writing about ethics.
Yes, Obama is a socialist, as many of the congress now is. AND most of them are CFR and are in other globalist organizations. McCain is CFR and acts accordingly.
Most of the candidates on BOTH SIDES are in the elite groups that reguard us as peons.
If Obama won, would he be like Reagan and other presidents that went to the Bohemian Grove and did their symbolic sacrifice?
The CONSTITUTION PARTY will run a true conservative in the 08 election. He will get my vote! Not someone
who runs on top on an old mule and expects my vote-for doing nothing more than lie.
Wake up Americans- throw these bums out.

Favorless 1
Dear Favorless,

I most certainly agree with you, this will be THE SINGLE MOST MONUMENTAL ELECTION IN HISTORY. A Black, a Woman, and a Senior 70, all in one election the firsts making history for the new baby boomers to fill in whatever they do, because whatever they fill in will be a first for this country. I am sooooo hopeful no one wastes their votes by staying home, even in Florida in the Panhandle, where there were lots of police there when Blacks came out of the polling places being told that for some reason they couldn't vote; I hope this time there is nobody there to hinder them to stand up for their rights and insist on their ballot (Obviously, I live in Florida), no ballots lost, no mechanical failures with "hanging chads", and a Supreme Court strong enough to handle such a situation rather than just turn it back on the state where all the pilferring happened in the first place.

Let this be a Fair Election for all, and let there be "eyes watching over Florida" since they can't handle themselves. I want my vote to count this time, in this incredible, historic, monumental election, it is only fair. I will wait in lines if I have to like back in '90 to get a chance to put in my ballot, wated 3 hours then and will do the same this time, but I don't want it discounted for any reason at all, even if I live in Florida, that is no reason I can't have equal rights to an equal vote.

Yes, Favorless, let every man nand woman have their vote in thei monumental election, let their voices be heard, we're making history.

Obama's and hope
It is not "hope" but "how" if hope is to be realized. And the "how" must be of substance. Otherwise, hope becomes a "fairy tale"!

Obama will win
...if the conservative cry babies don't get a grip. McCain was not my first choice. Actually, none of them was. But Obama and Hillary, whichever ends up being the candidate, are no choice at all. Either of them would be pushing for more Socialism, BIG government, BIG brother, a nanny with a strap. And finally, a surrender to evil because they are so twisted in their thinking, they wouldn't recognize evil if it punched them in the nose.

Spare us from another President with the "high ideals" and the elitism to think he/she can change the world by being a nice and sincere idiot like Jimmy Carter.


jeanne-marie
We remember jimmy dufus carter sending a helicopter into Iran & getting good people killed, all for the purpose of trying to get reelected.
We also remember his satanic remarks against President in a church mind you.
He doesn't have a thimble full of integrity & neither do liars like you.

Ther were no cops stopping blacks from voting in Florida. Quit the damn BS!!

Bill O'Reilly and the Turnip Truck
Bill O'Reilly asks, "Why do people keep questioning Obama's religion, there is no reason to doubt he is a Christian".

CNN asked Obama if he was Muslim, either Obama or someone lofty in his campaign said "No". Under Sharia Law, Obama has no say--He is Muslim because his biological Father was Muslim. In the eyes of Muslims, people he will have to deal with if elected President, he admits he is guilty of Apostasy (changing religions). That transgression of the Sharia Law is punishable by death. Devout Muslims will not even desire to sit at the same table with him and if he is assassinated by a Muslim; it will be justified in their eyes. Obama touts "change"; he will be a big change from all our former Presidents, in that, 1.2 billion Muslims will view him as a religious criminal. Violation of Sharia Law was the cause for the assassination of Sadat of Egypt. BTW asking Obama is like asking Al Capone if he was a murderer. In sworn testimony Al Capone said, "I have not killed anyone".

Jeanne-marie
What color is the sky on your planet?

Blackwell, On The Money
Ted Kennedy knows best. Obama is his ideal, aside from himself. The MSM is treating us peons with the scoup of the day every day. The MSM doesn't like Hitlery near as much as it likes people like Ombama and programs that Obama preaches. And it is all going to be free! And the people from around the world will love us again. And we will talk and talk with the worlds dictators and terrorists. We have been on the wrong side of good and bad for too long. Give us Obama and down with Hitlery.

Who Wants Race to Be An Issue?
After reading Obama's church web page and hearing an interview with his minister, I am persuaded Obama's church is Afro-centric to the extreme. My assessment points to prejudice and over inflation of the Black man and his contribution to Western civilization. Moreover, I think Obama has personally bought into this insidious propaganda to the point of selecting a portion of his genetics as dominant. Obama is not Black; he is Mixed. He is not Caucasian; he is Mixed. I find it instructive; Obama professes to be what he is not. The truth of opting to be of Mixed race would be much more moderate and accurate. The selection of Black as his race may indicate severe racial bias and prejudicial treatment of policy issues reminiscent of Whites in the Democrat Party prior to 1954. Obama wants to be considered Black, he needs that voting block. Obama is teaching Hillary and Bill all about wedge issues which are so common to the Democrat Party--Black support for "the First Black President and his Missus" has proven to be very fickle.

Come on, people
The fact of the matter is that conservatives are concerned with morals, ethics, issues, and principles, while leftist are concerned only with power. Power is all that matters to the left, so they back either a megalomaniacal second-term senator with a rock-solid disapproval rate of 44% or a forensically gifted first-term senator who is, to quote Dennis Miller, the emptiest of suits. Meanwhile, conservatives lament that no one who shares their values or opinions is in the race, guaranteeing that the left will get the power they lust for. I am no fan of McCain, but, as a physician, I cannot stomach the thought of socialized medicine being forced on this free land. The dhimmi-cRATS must be stopped.

Jean-Marie
Carter was elected to punish the GOP for Nixon's misdeeds, pure and simple. We already had integrity and honesty in the White House in the person of Gerald R. Ford, so the vote was not for integrity and honesty. Carter should have won in a landslide because of the backlash against Nixon and the GOP. He barely mustered a 2% victory. That alone should tell you something about "integrity" as the campaign issue in 1976.

So, what is the legacy of Jimmy Carter's "integrity"

-unemployment and inflation over 10%
-the prime lending rate over 20%
-gold nearing $1000 dollars per ounce
-long lines at the gas station
-violent overthrows of US-friendly leaders throughout the world and their replacement with Marxist dictators
-hostages in Iran
-loss of the first battle in the Global War on Terror
-the loss of the one viable, clean, safe, and inexpensive technology that could replace fossil fuels to provide our energy needs in perpetuity. That would be nuclear, for those of you in Berkeley.
-the empowerment and emboldenment of Yassir Arafat.

Man, that list is long, and I haven't even gotten to Bert Lance, Brother Billy, or fireside chats telling us to give up on the American Dream.

His only success as POTUS, the "Camp David Accords," literally went up in smoke, the smoke arising from the shards of lifeles protoplasm that, mere seconds before, had been Anwar Sadat.

Vacuum the Votes
Elections do not occur in a vacuum. To simply charge Obama with being a liberal discounts the idea that he will have an opponent - This will not be a choice between Liberal or no liberal - this will be a choice between Obama and McCain....
http://thefiresidepost.com/2008/02/14/vacuum-the-votes-but- not-in-a-vacuum/

Jean-marie II
Now that we have established that Carter is the worst president in the history of the republic, let us examine his ex-presidency:

There was a time when I considered Carter to be our finest living ex-president. That was because I did, and still do, admire his work for Habitat for Humanity. And because it was obvious that he was the living ex-president most uniquely qualified to be an EX-president.

But then he had to start seeing himself as some type of messianic elder statesman. And his legacy has become:

-Daniel Ortgea
-Hugo Chavez
-Kim Jong-Il
-North Korean nukes
-Ahmenidijad
-Iranian nukes
-Hamas
-Hezbollah
-Al qaeda
-9/11/01
-suicide bombers

Carter is no longer just the worst president in the history of the republic, he is now the worst ex-president, also.

If he wants to serve this country honorably, he should just shut up and go away.

Mr. Blackwell
Mr. Obama is not a "POLITICAL SISSY",which means, he does not fear "ANYONE"!We have more nuclear weapons,than any nation on earth and yet we sound like Brazil.Do you hear "Israel" crying like a little girl?NO!The president should be firm.If their are any "Terrorist",let them know, "US" will be swift and severe.This is all "US" are going to say."Actions Speak Louder Than Words".A Bully talks you to Death,not a real warrior.He just beats that BUTT.The World does not want to harm "US", and the supporters of Mr. Obama are willing to live in that REALITY.Trying to instill uncertainty, by casting about fears, is no longer a workable approach.The people are "AWAKE" and government has proven how uncertainty works.Undeclared wars,which have questionable origins, can do that to a country.A badly battered ECONOMY,that was "GOOD" at one time,causes one to examine the role of government.Ken,sometimes when the PENDULUM swings too far,an adjustment is required.It maybe time for a LIBERAL SWING???

Say NO to BO
Blackness is not a qualification to be leader of the free world.

Great expose'
Your article is excellent and well written. Great job! This election is going to be interesting. If the Republicans are smart they will use sound bytes of Obama to sink his ship.

Qualified??
Hussein, like hillary, is not qualified to be President.

Racism is alive in the ranks of African Americans & sexism is alive in the womens ranks.

Being the President is not a hip hop show, nor is it an Elvis concert.
Please think of our country first.

Leadership
Hope is not a substitute for leadership. Leadership means making choices and angering some people. Who will BHO be willing to anger and who will he be willing to please. Taxing the most productive members of society won't make the poor rich. Just like this so called stimulous package it is a short term fix to take away the pain of withdrawl. Like a druggie who will do anything for a fix this country needs to be detoxed. BHO needs to get specific with his promises. Hope without a plan is nothing more than wishfull thinking. You can hope in one hand and cr@p in the other and see which one gets full the quickest.

TopGun
By your logic, every Catholic who is a member of a Catholic church headed by a Catholic priest who has been convicted of abusing boys, is guilty of sodomy or at least of being in favor of sodomy. Obama's church has a mission statement that sounds pretty "Black is Beautiful". I wouldn't be surprised if it was written in the 1960's.

I don't know why Obama chose a church with a strong black identity when he himself clearly doesn't have a strong black identity, but I can think of two possible reasons, both valid. One is that he was working as a community organizer with a black population---Chicago's South Side is pure black---and somehow needed the association to improve his credibility in his work. The second is that, having grown up without a clear racial identity and having found that confusing and painful, he wanted something different for his children and intended to give them a church identity that would confirm their sense of race.

Meanwhile, I can't remember a black candidate who put LESS emphasis on race. The whole point of Obama's campaign is that he wants to be seen as a candidate, not a black candidate. He is like the anti-Jesse Jackson.

Be honest: what you fear about him is that he is a liberal, and a liberal with a following.

Obama's Website
To you anti-McCain voters;
Obama has his SPECIFIC plans laid out on his web site. Please look at Obama's web site, review his plans BEFORE sitting out in November. After reviewing the web site, then review the US Constitution. Sitting out will be a mistake. Focus on your local, State, and Congressional Races. That will provide the gridlock you are seeking. I am not a McCain fan, I am a fan of my checkbook.

To Free Speaker
Starting when Reagan was inaugurated (there were fireworks in the sky over Washington DC that day) we have had a steady, steady, steady drumbeat teaching the American public that "conservative" is normal and "liberal" is aberrant. Not true. We are a nation with two major political parties which have quite opposite views of how the country should be run. With little deviation during the Clinton years, we have now had nearly 28 years of "conservative" so it's expectable that now the pendulum may swing toward "liberal".

Conservatives favor the concentration of wealth, they love war in any form, they prefer John Wayne swagger to international diplomacy, they want religious extremists to control our social policy, and they do not give a damn about our people or our infrastructure. It is just fine with conservatives if children have no access to medical and dental care. They dispute the need for laws, rules, and regulations to the point of sounding like anarchists, and instead favor arming the individual, who, they believe, should be allowed to kill with impunity anyone perceived as a "threat". They fail to understand, believe, or trust science, which has been the base of our improved standard of living in the modern world.

It's time for a change. Go Obama, but Hillary would be better than nothing.

Rock Star
Rock stars aren't accountable for their beliefs, positions or behavior. It's the personality that counts.

Every time the talks about Obama's charisma and dynamic personality, they grow the cult and deflect attention away from issues of substance.

Obama will be hard to beat, unless we can talk about policy.

Lilly
"PURE BLACK" is a stupid use of words and it violates even your sensibilities.There is no "PURE" anything,white or black.If God could send "US" a virus, that would "KILL" those over 65,America might have a CHANCE!!!

Reality
On Pakistan:
Obama said that if we had knowledge that OBL was there and Pakistan would do nothing about it, we would go in and get him. Are Republicans honestly saying they wouldn't do this? That if OBL can just hide in an 'ally' country, we'll let him do whatever he wants?

I don't think Republicans are that stupid. That would clearly be a moronic stand, and Obama is 100% right in this.

On Iran and Kim Jong Il:
Bush has had great success in his talks with Kim Jong Il. Why no complaints about Bush's policy, which is not substantively different than Obama's? And think about it: is it really wise to only talk with nuclear powers, and refuse to negotiate with the smaller guys? In taking that action, aren't we encouraging rogue states to seek nuclear power so we will treat them with more success? I think our policies should reward those who do NOT have full-fledged nuclear programs, NOT reward those who defy the international community the MOST.

Lilly
You comment on Top Gun's objection to Obama's church affiliation:"By your logic, every Catholic who is a member of a Catholic church headed by a Catholic priest who has been convicted of abusing boys, is guilty of sodomy or at least of being in favor of sodomy."

I guess you'll have to find me a website on which the Catholic Church officially (as in, an official of the Catholic Church, with its sanction) and publicly states that the Catholic Church endorses sodomy. In fact, it is quite the opposite.

28 Years of Conservatives
Lilly,

We have been under more gov't control over the last 90+ years. Your statement of 28 years of capitalism is false, we are not pure capitalism with Centralized gov't controls. Most people alive today have NEVER lived under pure capitalism. We have ALL seen the effects of pure Socialism/Communism. It does not work.

Humblywise - 12:27 am

Right on brother.

I am constantly amazed that so many people on both sides of the aisle are so dense. Romney was the obvious choice for Conservatives, yes I like Hunter, but no, we gotta argue about who knows what, so we get McFangface.

Now we also hate the She Wolf, so we get the Worse-Wolf.

At this rate we will have to welcome a dictatorship to overcome the unimaginable ignorance of our electorate. Maybe that is what the powers to be want from us, huh.??.

If elected, as appears to be the case, Obama bin Hussein will probably not finish his term. Use your imagination and good riddance.


John Shaft
My post did not mention the word "capitalism".

However, when 4000 workers are laid off as the company cries poor, then the executives are rewarded with bonuses for saving money by outsourcing those 4000 manufacturing jobs to Asia, and the company is rewarded with tax incentives for doing the outsourcing, and then everybody celebrates with a big party at an expensive steakhouse and an evening in the Skybox, we can fairly look at whether such policies are serving the bests interests of the people. The deplorable course of action I have described re outsourcing is always defended that "if we don't do this, the jobs will go away". Fool, the jobs already went away: they now speak only Chinese. You may call a system of government anything you like; all I am saying is that I believe government should serve the best interests of its people, not milk most of the people in order to make a few very, very rich.

Now, if you will excuse me, I am off to the supermarket. With Lent upon us, a lot of seafood is offered at special prices and we love seafood. However, before I buy a single scallop or shrimp or catfish fillet I will be reading the fine print on every package, and any fish coming in from Asia, I will not buy. Buy American!

Nancy
Did you really misunderstand my post? Let me spell it out. To accuse Barack Obama of being a black militant because his church's mission statement sounds that way is as stupid as accusing every member of a Catholic Church of approving the sexual abuse of altar boys because the priest likes to diddle them. Clear enough?

Liberals
Go ahead with your tripe & do your best to help install the hillary or hussein Socialist Govenment.
And i hope your grandkids stomp on your grave & ask, "Why did you let this?"
You are totally worthless in this GOD given country.


To onceamarine
Re: "If elected, Obama will probably not finish out his term. Use your imagination, and good riddance". Well, I consulted my imagination and my imagination thinks that you are suggesting the assassination of a President Obama. Since your other comment is "good riddance" you appear to be in favor of such a course of action. True?

Townhall is a beautifully-run website: I don't know of a better one. I can't imagine that they want their site used for advocating a political assassination.

Lilly
You are quite ignorant. You would like to see the government taxing the hell out of these corporations, which, if you abandoned your short sightedness, will lead to more outsourcing and the loss of more American jobs. Just as continually raising the minimum wage will lead to less jobs for the Americans aged 16-25. You see, when you start punishing the corporations -who, by the way, provide many, many jobs - with high taxes, you are actually hurting those whose jobs will be lost because of it. You are so absorbed in you liberal thinking of punishing the "big" guy, your rational thinking goes out the window.

By the way, I do not recall tax incentives being provided to companies that outsource. I may be wrong, but you will have to point me to a legitimate source that states this is the case.

Try reading Thomas Sowell's book Basic Economics. You will be quite enlightened.

impeachbush
"How dare YOU, the man who personally "hijacked" the 2004 presidential election in Ohio in favor of the worst "warmonger" in U.S. history, George W. Bush, dare to speak ill about Barack Obama."

"Hijacked the election"? Come now! I've seen some sore losers, but you liberals take the proverbial cake.

How dare he speak ill of Barack Obama? The same way you dare to speak ill of President Bush. The First Amendment applies to conservatives, too. Get over it.

Ken
Sore losers they are. Anytime an election does not go their way, they automatically cry foul. They complain about how the election process is so screwed up it will take years to correct, but when they won the senate and the house in '06, you heard not a peep from them. More importantly, you did not hear Republicans screaming from the mountain tops that the election was stolen. It's funny how this screwed up election process was some how automatically fixed (corrected may be a better word).

You notice how impeachbush makes the allegation that the election was personally stolen by Bush in Ohio, but fails to provide any substantial proof? This is the liberal M.O. They say it is so, so it must be so. Gore lost and Kerry lost. There have been no recount efforts that have proven otherwise.

bob
during the primary election here in california there were some problems on the republican side and republicans have been whining for 2 weeks that the election was fixed.

that is the problem with self-righteousness, unless you are perfect, it always comes back to bite you.

Bob
In 2000, Gore (allegedly) won the popular vote, but lost the electoral vote. Democrats denounced the Electoral College as "archaic", and demanded that it be abolished.

In 2004, Kerry lost the popular vote by a decisive margin, but came within one state of winning the electoral vote. Strangely enough, the Electoral College suddenly didn't seem so bad to Democrats.

Back in the early nineties, when Democrats still controlled the Senate, they called for abolishing the filibuster. A few years ago, when Democrats were filibustering court nominees, they defended the process as "foundational" to democracy.

Liberals would be funny if they weren't so dangerous.

obama
pundits like blackwell (who got his clock cleaned in 2006)don't understand what is going on.

is he suggesting that the republican party run on a anti-hope and anti-optimism platform.

when did inspiration become a dirty word.
when did asking america to reach higher become an negative.

yes, he is liberal on issues but he is talking about a different type of politics.
it is called consensus building and afte 16 years of confrontatational politics from clinton than bush the country wants someone who sees politics as a way to build not a way to tear down..notice how even republicans were upset over the negatrive ads ran by romney.

blackwell spends his whole article tearing down obama.it will not work.

his kind are being left behind in the dustbin of history.

What Does Barack Obama Really Believe?
Nearly every day when listening to talk shows the question is asked, "What does Obama really believe?

Two things which are evident about his beliefs are spelled out in his book "The Audacity of Hope." I have never heard of these ideas being quoted in any discussion about Obama.

One of the ideas in his book, and where he is writing about American Imperialism, he states that instead of exploiting the cheap labor and natural resources of these third world countries, we should let them take the lead from left-leaning populists like Venezuela's Hugo Chavez, or let them turn to more traditional principles of social organizations like Islamic Law.

The other issue is that we need to be spending more money in building up international organizations like the United Nations. He certainly sounds like a "One Worlder."

Obama is a very dangerous man, and as far as I am concerned, he should not be near the
White House."

religiouslib
"his kind are being left behind in the dustbin of history."

That's what you liberals said about us in '76 and '92. Dream on.

Maybe Obama is right
All this talk about Carter is history and we can't change it. Twenty years of a Bush or a Clinton is enough. Let's give the idea of working across the aisle and doing what is best for America instead of what is best for me and my party a chance. The constant play on a persons name is really senseless since none of of us name ourselves at birth. If we could, I would have gone for Getty, Hilton, or now Gates. If the internet was around back when Abe Lincoln was running, the big scare would have been Abraham is a Hebrew name and we can't have a Jew running the country.

Religious Lib
I have no problem with Obama's message of inspiration and hope. But one must run on more than these words alone to prove his or her qualifications for being POTUS. Getting it in good with our so called allies and shaking hands with dictators does not provide more security, stability and freedom. What we found out before the Iraq war, and this is often interpreted otherwise to make Bush look bad, is that we actually found out who our allies were when the chips were down. The same countries whose intelligent agencies were claiming Saddam (may his soul rot in hell) had WMDs, had no intention on doing anything about the threat. The most they could muster was that if he did not cooperate, there would be "serious consequences". Certainly, if they meant more sanctions, Saddam, as he had already proved, was not threatened by any sanctions. If we are to stand with our allies, they need to be willing to stand with us.

impeachbush
"The man who has been illegally occupying our White House for the past 8 years has been doing everything in his power to destroy our Constitution and to keep the American people and our Congress under his thumb with constant fearmongering and warmongering and YOU are saying that OBAMA is a dangerous man?"

I don't think Obama is half as dangerous as some of those raving lunatics who support him (that means you).

The Electoral College
Presidential elections are won, not by debating issues, but by putting together a majority in the Electoral College.

So let's look at what McCain is up against.

In 2004, it was the 25 electoral votes of Ohio that put Bush over the top and got him to win over Kerry. Without Ohio, Bush would have lost and Kerry would have won.

In 2008, Ohio will swing decisively to the Democrats, owing to the various GOP scandals there--Governor Taft, Bob Ney. Right now, a Republican couldn't get elected dog catcher in Ohio.

That means that unless McCain can win some other states that Kerry won in 2004, he will lose.

Let me repeat that: There are not enough electoral votes in the Red States to enable McCain to defeat Obama. McCain has to actually win a couple of Blue States, not just defend the Red States that Bush won in 2004.

McCain's best shots are in New Hampshire, Wisconsin, maybe Oregon. Those voters tend to be political moderates. If they see McCain tilting too far to the right to appease the GOP base, they will vote Democrat--and again McCain will lose.

ken
point well taken

i probably did engage in some hyperbole there but i still maintain blackwell who got beat badly in ohio is not someone who understands the electorate.

for ImpeachBush
ImpeachBush asks: "Exactly what were George W. Bush's qualifications for being POTUS?"

He was a successful two-term governor of Texas.
Bush got elected by kicking Ann Richards' butt, which was an achievement given how popular she was in Texas.

And when Bush ran for re-election as governor, he won in a landslide. The Democrats didn't even bother to make it a contest because they knew they had no chance.

And historically, most of our Presidents have been former governors (like Bush). Not former Senators (like Gore). Because executive experience is prized more highly than legislative experience.

Does that help?

impeachbush
"Exactly what were George W. Bush's qualifications for being POTUS? That he was "the son of a Bush?" And HIS "words" and "message" that he was a "compassionate conservative?""

What were Bill Clinton's qualifications? Or Al Gore's (other than inventing the Internet)? Or John Kerry's?

"He is a lying, conniving, traitorous scumbag!"

I suppose Bill Clinton is your idea of an honest, decent man?

for ImpeachBush
ImpeachBush claims: "The man who has been illegally occupying our White House for the past 8 years has been doing everything in his power to ....keep the American people and our Congress under his thumb with constant fearmongering and warmongering"

The following is an excerpt from BILL CLINTON's 1999 1999 State of the Union address:

"As we work for peace, we must also meet threats to our nation's security, including increased dangers from outlaw nations and terrorism. We will defend our security wherever we are threatened, as we did this summer when we struck at Osama bin Laden's network of terror. The bombing of our embassies in Kenya and Tanzania reminds us again of the risks faced every day by those who represent America to the world."

And in his 2000 SOTU speech, BILL CLINTON said:

"We must meet this threat by making effective agreements to restrain nuclear and missile programs in North Korea; curbing the flow of lethal technology to Iran; preventing Iraq from threatening its neighbors; increasing our preparedness against chemical and biological attack; protecting our vital computer systems from hackers and criminals; and developing a system to defend against new missile threats -- while working to preserve our ABM missile treaty with Russia. We must do all these things."


Tell me, was that "warmongering and fearmongering" too?


Can they do the job?
I would agree with the argument that race,colour, gender,height,weight,colour of eyes are not significant requirements for a President. Faith might be a consideration for some but Osama Bin Laden has Faith. Surely what is required most in a President is wisdom, honesty, competence,patriotism clear headed judgement in a crisis,a determination to defend the values of the constitution and a genuine wish to enhance the quality of life of Americans and where possible, the whole world. A question to which I do not know the answer is - Does the American electoral system truly enable the selection and election of such a candidate?

impeachbush
You see, you do yourself a disservice. Because you lack any intellectual substance in your arguments, your resort to name calling. That is what I expect from my five year old. I would hope that you could come up with something more than "son of a bush" and lying, conniving, traitorous scumbag. I disagree with a number of things Bush has done. The one thing I respect about him is he stands by his convictions. He does not flip flop based on who his audience is or speak in nice sounding ambiguities. John Kerry said all during his campaign that he had a plan. He never really went into what that plan was, but he had a plan. Obama talks about change, but never gets into specifics.

One other thing. You liberals like to talk about how stupid and brainless Bush is. What does that say about your congressional representatives in Washington who claim they had been duped? As I recall, there was a Democrat administration prior to 2001, that were claiming the same things about Saddam (may his soul rot in hell), his WMDs and regime change. Were those lies? Was that fear-mongering? Were you born before Bush took office?

Bob
I agree with you: Bush doesn't tell us his plan. He just goes ahead on the sneak and violates our Constitution, our international treaties, our laws...then when he is found out, he keeps on doing it, getting some patsy to state retroactively that whatever Bush did was perfectly legal. Not that what the President of the United States does in any of the people's business, of course....

As for Obama, many newspapers and also his website have given pretty detailed accounts of what he thinks government should be doing. And yesterday in an automobile factory he gave a detailed speech addressing economic issues. Like so many others, you don't bother to find out Obama's position, but just keep parroting that "he never says anything".

SteveL
I read your 12:21 post after I posted my last one. You did a great job of spelling out exactly what I was saying in the last paragraph of my last post. Thanks!

The Real Obama
Whatever else Barack Hussein Obama may be, an African-American he ain’t. By common usage the term: African-American is applied to citizens of the United States of African descent whose ancestors were brought to this country in chains, who were stripped of their names, their language, their traditions, their culture, and their heritage.

None of these things apply to Senator Obama who knows exactly who he is and who his fore bearers were.

Barack Obama, Sr., who came to this country of his own free will, was born in Kenya, and was of Luo ethnicity. Senator Obama’s mother was the late Ann Dunham Obama of Northern European ancestry.

When Barack Obama, Sr., “married” Ann Dunham he already had a wife back in Kenya. Perfectly legal in Kenya as under Sharia Law a Muslim is allowed up to four wives and as many concubines as he can afford to purchase, but under U.S. law, and that marriage did take place in Hawaii, a man is allowed only one wife at one time. In other words that “marriage” was, under U.S. Law, fraudulent.

Finally, it is also an undeniable fact that Barack Hussein Obama was born into the Islamic faith and was considered by one and all, a Muslim. If he is now a practicing Christian, he is one by conversion and if so, there should be a baptismal certificate on file somewhere.

E. David Litvak

P.S. Someone should point out to the junior senator from Illinois that the MSM has to build him up first before they can turn around and savagely tear him apart.


lilly is right
Yes, I admit it. Us conservatives favor the concentration of wealth, we love war in any form, we prefer John Wayne swagger to international diplomacy, we want religious extremists to control our social policy, and we do not give a damn about our people or our infrastructure. It is just fine with us conservatives if children have no access to medical and dental care. We dispute the need for laws, rules, and regulations to the point of sounding like anarchists, and instead favor arming the individual, who, they believe, should be allowed to kill with impunity anyone perceived as a "threat". We fail to understand, believe, or trust science, which has been the base of our improved standard of living in the modern world.

Yes silly lilly, I admit that you're right. Gosh you're so smart.

Nuke the Muslims says Blackwell
As usualy conservatives, in this case Blackwell, have an unrealistic model of the universe, plantet earth and the people who live on planet earth.

Like all conservatives he premises that non-Americans around the globe and their leaders have certain characteristics, which are: they don't have any intelligence, they don't have any agenda, they don't have any backbone, and they are so afraid of America and our nukes that they will roll over in the mud, stick their arms and legs up in the air and expose their bellies to us.

Let's look at history. If the conservative premises are true north Korea would never have invaded south Korea, nor the communist chinese have attacked American forces in Korea; Ho Chi Min would never have stood up to colonialism, first against the French and then the United States; Sadaam would have rolled over when we threatened him; no tyrant on earth would ever stick their fingers in our eyes; Saudi Arabia would fall in line, etc.

Nor do conservatives ever understand that other people can also take the counsel they give. "If a man attacks you with a knife you get a gun."

For foreign leaders and countries this could well mean that if the United States attacks you with a knife you find some other way to fight back, such as "lie low until the United States leaves."

Yes, conservatives get an F in their understanding of human characteristics, motivations and intentions. As such, they are a menace to their own country and the world.

To gretske
You are sliding along on the popular assumption (made popular only over the past 27 years) that "Conservative" is normal and "Liberal" is aberrant. Two extremes are put forth: 100% greed vs Communism. An example would be the poster who a while back asked why he should pay taxes that go to a public transportation system when he himself drives his own car. Another would be asking why taxes should support public park land when the individual can enjoy his own yard. Still another would be stating that it's no big deal if a poor child suffers from toothache because his parents can't afford dental care. Yet another would be the insistence so popular on townhall that the poor are actually rich. One more conservative myth: it's good to defile and destroy public lands for the enrichment of a few.

Half this country believes that a government should look out for the public good of its people. We are not Communists, we are Democrats. Get used to the idea, because we are well and truly fed up with a climate of greed and self-serving. And "liberal" is not a swear-word.


Bob
"Because you lack any intellectual substance in your arguments, your resort to name calling. That is what I expect from my five year old."

Alas, that seems to be the case with most liberals these days.

lilly
"We are not Communists, we are Democrats."

Alas, for the last thirty-five years, the distinction between the two has become more and more blurred.

Hussein, the No Experience Man

"TopGun
he wanted something different for his children and intended to give them a church identity that would confirm their sense of race.” … lilly

Yes, you said it best, “He wanted them to [confirm] their sense of race”. Race should have no part of it, yet you yourself, a liberal, bring it up. You liberals are the most racist and biggest hypocrites to walk this earth. In trying to say he isn’t racist, you tell us how he wanted his children to know what their [race] is. That is the funniest $#%@ I have ever read on hear.

”Meanwhile, I can't remember a black candidate who put LESS emphasis on race. The whole point of Obama's campaign is that he wants to be seen as a candidate, not a black candidate. He is like the anti-Jesse Jackson.” … Lilly

If he wanted to be known for “LESS” emphasis on race, then he would not be a member of the most racist church in the USA with a revolutionist type preacher.

”Be honest: what you fear about him is that he is a liberal, and a liberal with a following.” … lilly

Has nothing to do with liberalism. The guy is an empty suit with NO, let me emphasize this, NONE, NADA, ZILCH real world experience WHATSOEVER. A man with no experience of creating jobs does not have the experience to create policy which will affect jobs. Can you comprehend this simple FACT.


Lilly my dear
If you are speaking of Bush's plan to confront Iraq military, he spelled it out quite clearly. Congress talked about it for almost two years. And after all the talking was done, they voted with a large majority to go to war with Iraq. It was only after the insurgency came about that the dems said they did not support the war. And they have been undermining any efforts for victory ever since, contrary to the fact that they say they support the troops. They speak from both sides of their mouths. They say they support the troops and then call them murderers rapists and terrorists. When they are called on the carpet on it, they say their statements were taken out of context.

Whether you know it or not, in every administration there are highly secretetive covert operations and methods that take place in order to provide us with information to make us safe. To have the operations openly revealed to the enemy by the likes of the NYT is much more abominable than what you characterize these operations to be. On the subject of international law, I do not know what violations you are talking about. Are you talking about the humiliation of some murderous thugs that chop of the heads of innocent civilians and strap explosives to children and mental patients to carry out their bloody attacks. Or are these Islamofascists following some international law that I am not aware of.

Obama
Obama seems profound on the surface, but deep down he is abysmally superficial.


impeachbush
"And he will go down as the most unwise, incompetent and dishonest president in U.S. history."

Sorry, but Jimmy Carter has already won the prize for the most unwise and incompetent president in U.S. history. Bill Clinton will likely be ranked as most dishonest, unless Hillary manages to win.

Proud Liberal says
This:
Nuke the Muslims says Blackwell

and this:
Like all conservatives he premises that non-Americans around the globe and their leaders have certain characteristics, which are: they don't have any intelligence, they don't have any agenda, they don't have any backbone, and they are so afraid of America and our nukes that they will roll over in the mud, stick their arms and legs up in the air and expose their bellies to us.

I am not sure where he stated this in his column. You must be interpreting it in the standard "evil conservative" accusatory fashion.

I do believe he has stated that no president since the development of nukes has taken the nuclear option off the table. I don't recall him saying anything about any past democrats during this era that have done so. Remember JFK? He knew if the nuclear option were taken of the table we would be toast, literally and figuratively. Keep in mind it was a democrat that developed and used nukes in the first place. Name me a conservative president that has used them. Not even that "evil, murderous" Bush has.

Hillary Clinton is...
a Socialist. Whatever she has done in the senate and that's not much, is to curry favor with the Republicans and moderates. However that is not who she is. She favors any big government program that she can think up and pick out pockets for. You have it wrong Mr. Blackwell. I guess you have been duped like a lot of the people in this country. look behind her false face and you will find the real facts of her political philosophy. Here is what she did and didn't do so far in congress. She is a fraud.
These bills can be found on the website of the Library of Congress , but to save you trouble, I'll post them here for you.

1. Establish the Kate Mullany National Historic Site.
2. Support the goals and ideals of Better Hearing and Speech Month.
3. Recognize the Ellis Island Medal of Honor.
4. Name courthouse after Thurgood Marshall.
5. Name courthouse after James L. Watson.
6. Name post office after Jonn A. O'Shea.
7. Designate Aug. 7, 2003, as National Purple Heart Recognition Day.
8. Support the goals and ideals of National Purple Heart Recognition Day.
9. Honor the life and legacy of Alexander Hamilton on the bicentennial of his death.
10. Congratulate the Syracuse Univ. Orange Men's Lacrosse Team on winning the championship.
11. Congratulate the Le Moyne College Dolphins Men's Lacrosse Team on winning the championship.
12. Establish the 225th Anniversary of the American Revolution Commemorative Program.13. Name post office after Sergeant Riayan A. Tejeda.
14. Honor Shirley Chisholm for her service to the nation and express condolences on her death.
15. Honor John J. Downing, Brian Fahey, and Harry Ford, firefighters who lost their lives on duty. Only five of Clinton's bills are, more substantive. 16. Extend period of unemployment assistance to victims of 9/11.
17. Pay for city projects in response to 9/11.
18. Assist landmine victims in other countries.
19.
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More thoughts on Hillary
She is strong, but she can't bring herself to leave her lying and philandering husband.

She is intelligent, but she always seemed to be the last person in the country to learn that her husband was lying to her and cheating on her.

She is independent, but she calls on her lying and philandering husband to bail out her campaign every time she gets into trouble.

She can get things done, but she couldn't pass her health care plan when Democrats had a bigger majority in Congress than they do now.

Or could it be that Hillary is just dishonest?

Obama Vs JFK
Education:
Obama: Columbia University Harvard Law
John F. Kennedy Harvard, Stanford
After College:
Obama: Community organizer, university lecturer
Two bestselling books: a memoir of his youth titled Dreams from My Father, and The Audacity of Hope.
Kennedy: Traveled the world and assisted Ambassador Father in some international affairs.
Only President to have won a Pulitzer Prize -Profiles in Courage. 1941, he helped father complete the writing memoirs of his years as ambassador. 1941, Kennedy traveled South America.Senior thesis: July 1940 wrote Why England Slept and became a bestseller.
Military Service:
Obama: None
Kennedy: US Navy Spring 1941. Pacific theater earned the rank of lieutenant, commanding a patrol torpedo (PT 109) boat. In 1942 PT 109, rammed by a Japanese destroyer and split in two. Kennedy swam, towing a wounded man, to an island and later to a second island where his crew was rescued. Kennedy earned Navy and Marine Corps Medal. Also earned Purple Heart, Asiatic-Pacific Campaign Medal and the World War II Victory Medal.
Political Experience:
Obama:-Illinois State Senate from 1997 to 2004
-Unsuccessful bid for U.S. House of Rep. 2000
-U.S. Senate 2005 to present
Kennedy: -1946 U.S. Representative for 6 years
-1952 U.S. Senate full term, re-elected to 2nd
1956 Vice Presidential nominee Democratic convention, Kennedy finished second.
-1961 Elected 35th President
Total experience at the Federal Level:
Obama: About 2 years
Kennedy: 15 years (not counting Presidency)
Very clearly then, to compare Obama to Kennedy would belittle and devalue the great and noted accomplishments of our 35th President, John F. Kennedy.

OBAMA seeks to SPLIT WHITE vote.....
Check this type of racism:

http://www.barackobama.com/index.php

Now click on the "People" tab:

Blacks, Latinos, Asians, illegals and Indians, but nothing about people of European heritage....

We've cut off Hillary, now its time to block out Obama Hussein!!!!

Religiouslib...(Belch), Are You Serious?
Sorry for belching, but after reading this article on Obama's record, I'm about to be sick. And you certainly didn't help my acid reflux.

"is he suggesting that the republican party run on a anti-hope and anti-optimism platform."

I don't know about you, but I didn't feel a lot of hope and optimism reading Obama's stats and what he wants to do to our country. In fact, my stomach dropped to my knees. He would drop our country to our knees too. And while we're on our knees, guess what other countries will be doing to us....Hmmm mmmmm.

"when did inspiration become a dirty word.
when did asking america to reach higher become an negative."

This is not inspiration. You know I respect you, but Obama is like a Jack-In-The-Box and you clearly don't see this at all. You're swept away by turning the crank, hearing the fun carnival music, you get lulled by the pretty box....then before you know it....BAM!!!!! Out comes a twisted, bobbing, puppet.

You're smarter than this. I know you have to be.

Not even
a good speaker. Obama is an okay orater. He can be motivational, but not hardly elecrtic.

His policies can't be scrutinized because he doesn't have any. Just feel good rhetoric no different than one would hear at a 'positive thinking' seminar.

Have Americans really become this dumb?!

The Real Obama
Just liberal enough to be like Jimmy Carter,But not smart enough to run a country ,Just like Carter wasn't. Has no knowledge of bussiness an very little of Gov. How does he plan to run the
most prosperous country in the world. Only way a
democrat knows how. RAISE YOUR TAXES. But Just The Rich Man. So the person sitting on their butts won't have to work. Guess what , they arn't going to work anyway. AS long as they get food stamps,medicaid,wic, and all the other free gov. handouts why should they work?
Before long someone is going to get tired of this mess and wham another civil war between politicans and the people this time. Between the
I worked for mine and the( you're gonna work for mine also ) Crowd. What we need is a goodhouse
cleaning in Washington. D.C. Term limits for all congressmen or women. And the FAIRTAX put in place for all people. Get rid of the IRS. They don't know what they are doing, Remember only you PAY TAXES . all cost run downhill.

Lilly, the Confused Liberal

“To accuse Barack Obama of being a black militant because his church's mission statement sounds that way is as stupid…” … lilly

Oh lilly dear (pun inteneded), I did not accuse Mr. Hussein of being a militant, I just stated his PASTOR was an extreme revolutionist type. Perhaps it is YOU who should go back and reread the posts. And as far as the Catholic comparison you used, if Mr. Hussein was a racist, he would not attend a church that “PRACTICES” and pushes racism. Americans attend the church that they believe in it’s teachings. Obviously Mr. Hussein believes in promoting racism.

Hopefully that is clear enough for you racists who choose to ignore and make excuses for your true colors.


Lilly
“To accuse Barack Obama of being a black militant because his church's mission statement sounds that way is as stupid…” … lilly

Noone will join any organization if they do not concur with its program or practice. I, myself, went through 20 different churches before I settled on one. I then joined the one to which fell in line more with my beliefs and understanding. I would NEVER join a church or become a member of any group that has the beliefs and practices of Obama's church. Why would any intelligent person become a member of a church they disagree with on foundational and doctrinal issues? Wouldn't that be self defeating?

You mean to tell me this Obama is so weak and compromised that he could join with anything he disagrees with? Talk about following the crowd. A man that would join a group he doesn't agree with is no leader. But I don't think that is the case. The real deal is he DOES agree with it. All of it.

Mr. O
He apparently believes that the US should be subsidizing (and eventually subservient to ala his backer Mr Soros) the United nations. he has submitted a bill that would require the US to pay a % of our GDP to the UN as a "global tax".

I truly believe that part of his glorious "change America change the world" is something that if made clear, would shock and give pause to some of his supporters.
I posit that you have no idea what you're asking for.

Even one of the leading newspapers that endorsed him, admitted that he was "beyond naive". His statements about Pakistan and Iran reflect that. He can bone up on things. Can we afford that?

What scares me the most about the guy is not him. It's his supporters. They are like stoned groupies. It's frightening indeed.

To apvicario and More
For your information, it was brought to light that JFK didn't even write "Profiles in Courage". A ghost writer did and to James MacGrregor Burns, one of his biographers.

Wow what a lot of ager for Barack. He's a breathe of fresh air and at least is honest about his rcsord. Mrs. (sort of ) Clinton puts on a face face that she is moderate but she will rob you blind to keep the minorities as victims.. What a rude awaking that they are not backing her and I sincerely hope it stays that way..

Bob
An old bank robber I knew once said "if you take a gun into a bank you'd better be prepared to use it."

The same holds true for nukes. It does you no good merely to have them. And the more you put off using them the lower value they have in terms of scaring people.

Which leads to the second problem. In order to really scare people you have to use your weapons, otherwise they become skeptical, but in the case of nukes you do a great deal of damage, and you'd better be prepared to accept not only the damage you do yourself, but once you have used the nuke it's going to be hard to find people whom you can trust. Things might disintegrate rapidly after using a nuke.

A book I had out but found too boring to finish. but the jacket said that Russia had become convinced during the cold war that the United States was planning to attack and so Russia was within hours or minutes of launching a nuclear attack on the U.S. and our intelligence finally figured that out and had to convince Russia that we were not preparing a pre-emptive attack.

Which, to me, proves that the deterent factor doesn't really work always. Possession of nukes certainly opens the door for another country to make a pre-emptive strike against the United States.

I do believe that the strong opinion of conservatives on the effectiveness of fear is overstated, probably vastly overstated.


delusional lilly
she claims that oblahma isn't running as a black candidate. But all those around him are spouting those exact words. The msm continually points out to all that he is black. But as he is half white, why can't he likewise claim to be a white person. But instead he identifies with blacks and truly understands and believes in the victim mentality posited by the dims. He has one prescription to every problem facing america. Higher taxes and more govt. He alas is no more than a low level community organizer that learned that govt handouts are needed to fund programs that never work. He cites some program that was used in harlem with minimal results yet believes by extension he can find success with larger govt. But like his political clone, the missus clinton, he neither understands or trusts anything outside of govt intervention. He is neither a breath of fresh air or a harbinger of a brighter future but instead only a throwback to all the years of failed socialist programs. Yet those like lilly who hates everything not socialist finds a new champion who she believes will end capitolism and bring about a socialist utopia

No Barack star
Barack Obama is 99 percent hot air and bull wrapped up in a suit.

That this guy, who is nothing more than a smooth talker, is the potential Democratic presidential nominee says more about America's stupidity than anything else. The next JFK? How about the next Chauncey Gardiner from the movie "Being There." Nobody cares what Obama stands for or believes in because he is a "Barack star." He looks more like Erkel without glasses, doesn't he? Anything of substance is immaterial. He is on a roll, and that's all that matters. Do I vomit now or later?

The Republicans were close to having a fantastic nominee in Mitt Romney. But, there again, no substance was demanded -- that's why old, feeble John McCain is the frontrunner, because he is a so-called "war hero." Nauseating!

I will grudgingly vote for McCain if he runs against Obama. We can only hope McCain has the sense to make Romney his runningmate. Maybe America will wise up between now and November and see Obama for the sham that he is. If Obama wins in November, it'll be a litmus test for just how stupid America has really become.

Note: When McCain (pathetic) or Obama (more pathetic) is in the White House, illegal immigrants everywhere will be high-fiving each other.

Black Value System
Could a white presidential candidate belong to a Church which had as part of its' basic principles a White Value System. How can a mixed race candidate belong to a church which espouses a Black Value System? Trinity United Church of Christ website tucc.org has posted and believes in THE BLACK VALUE SYSTEM! Substitue White wherever Black occurs in these 12 concepts and see if you think that a white belonging to such a church would not be labeled a racist, hate monger of the first order!

Ask not what you can do for your country
Ask what your country can do for you.... This is the mindset of today's "mainstream" voter.. We
have become a nation so completely dumbed-down by
the left-dominating media, the left-dominating
educational institutions and the leftist dolts that dominate the entertainment industry... We have become a nation that actually believe's the
government exist's to give us stuff... And look what it has got us - a choice between Hillary
Klintoon, B.O. Hussein or back-stabbin' Juan McShame as the next commander-in-chief..... These
3 demagogue's are the best we can do ? "Beam us up, Scottie".. We're in deep do-do

What many here miss on Obama
Is the simple fact that the electorate has been energized first and foremost by the rejection of two terms of GOP leadership. The fact that we have candidates that we like, and whose election would be historic, just adds fuel to the existing fire.

Lilly, the Lost One

“Half this country believes that a government should look out for the public good of its people.” … lilly

Where in the Constitution does it state the government must provide for you? Your thinking is the road to Communism. That makes you a TRAITOR to this country if you DO NOT follow and respect the Constitution, but we have already observed this.

Providing for the “welfare” of the people means providing them the opportunity in actually “work” for their own success with the liberty they have here in this great country, not provide for the Communists who do not want to work to succeed.

The first black president?
Barack Obama hopes to be the first black president? But I thought Bill Clinton already achieved that status. If I remember correctly, he was named as the first black president because:

1. He comes from a dysfunctional family.
2. He used drugs.
3. He is a womanizer.

If I were black, I would be offended at having my race judged by such criteria. But then again, who am I to dispute the word of a liberal academic?

(A different Bob)
religiouslib writes:
"when did inspiration become a dirty word.
when did asking america to reach higher become an negative.
yes, he is liberal on issues but he is talking about a different type of politics.
it is called consensus building..."

Fat chance. Obama demonstrates the dangers of charisma in a country where the left puirsues feelings of self-rightouusness without questioning its assumptions about what nurtures the human soul. Obama talks about vague notions of change, inspiration, and reaching across the aisle, with his manipulative used-car-salesman-slick delivery. The emperor's new charisma. The left is the party of if-it-feels-good-do-it emotivism, and they lap it up. But Obama's hypnotic manipulations aren't going to build bridges across the aisle, because he's a far-left extremist. His mellifluous persuasions work fine with lefties, who are motivated more by the desire to "feel good again" like they did in the 60s, when adolescent "idealism" came to be confused with wisdom. But sooner or later, enough people are going to realize that his policies are idiotic, and his persuasiveness will come to be seen as the most artful sort of manipulative deception, and the affection he's reaping now will turn to distrust. He doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell of building consensus because he's an extermist. What's really appalling is how many people are getting sucked into believing that there's some merit in basing electoral decisions on their fatigue from feeling bad for so many years of polarization, and wanting to feel good for a change.

impeachbush
Has anyone told you you are full of crap.
You act like a 5yr old who is used to lying all the time.
You are related to lilly, i'll bet.
The more you yap your mouth, the stupider you sound.

Rationalizations
Obama is not qualified to be President unless you subscribe to the idea, "no qualifications are necessary or required". He knows nothing, he has never occupied any position that required him to lead. Obama has never sat across the table from a world leader where substantive issues were being discussed. Obama has never been inside a tank, a fighter plane, spent time at sea aboard a Naval war ship, and he has never worked in any job that was controlled by a chain of command. Obama cannot read or understand a war plan, he has no concept of the logistic support needed to conduct a worldwide war particularly one as fragmented as the War on Terror. Obama has no idea about the weight associated with losing American soldiers to protect our freedom. Obama has no training in the cost or logistics associated with maintaining our national infrastructure. He knows nothing about medicine, life cycle of drugs, the FDA's duties and responsibilities, and I doubt he has ever been inside the CDC. Obama shows his ineptness by the programs he pushes and more importantly by those he ignores. Obama glibly pushes Socialism and hides from the realities of weapons and force development in support of our national defense. Most on this board are more infatuated with the pigmentation of his skin and the charm that rolls off his tongue than with his demonstrated capability to keep us free, safe and prosperous. Obama took the oath of office when sworn into the Senate, yet he embraces Socialist programs and ideas that have no Constitutional backing or support.

The technocrat assumption
The unspoken assumption behind the thoughts on this thread is that the president ought to be a doer, in some cases a technocrat, in another case a business man, and in another case a warrior-like commander in chief.

I say that more than ever in this perilous day and age we need to ask of a presidential candidate "what have you thought?" "What have you believed?" "What ideas have you examined?"

More than ever we need a philosopher with a grand, overarching vision of how the world comes together. As scientists say, "we need a lumper, not a divider."


To Skylark from apvicario
I happen to like Barack very much. I'd love to have him as a neighbor and have his kids play with mine.

However, even if JFK didn't write Profiles in Courage the reasoning still stands. Obama is at best a JFK wanna-be. JFK minus one book...Obama still isn't in the same league, let alone the same ballpark.

Honestly, Obama supporters are being intellectually dishonest by comparing the two. Comparing the facts (even minus one) shows this with great clarity. The support for Obama, while intoxicating for some, reveals a lack of clear thinking; and it is this lack of clarity that endangers this nation.


Warrior
Obama embraces socialist programs which have the backing of generations of the American people. Why would you have us remain slaves to a musty old document? The American people have embraced change. The American people have learned from experience. From that definition conservatives are not part of the American people.

Humblywise
What is real about Obama? The only plan that he has talked about is to raise taxes, raise taxes, raise taxes and raise taxes. His plan for the future is to raise taxes. What else is real????

What has Obama done?
Apvicario: One thing Obama hasn't done is to start an ill-fated war that was premised on the fantasy that God is on our side. Talk about your grasp of reality!

(a different Bob)
impeachbush:

Not even Bush's most ardent fans would accuse him of having the kind of charisma that makes slick manipulativeness possible. About the most that could be said about his capacity for manipulation is that his oafish verbal stumbling conveys a sort of down-home ingenuousness. But he's always been a lousy communicator, a lousy rhetorician, and, hence, an ineffectual manipulator. Or don't they teach you about how to think critically about feel-good snake oil salesmen on your planet? Whatever else Bush is, he's not slick!

Warrior
Much of what you have said about all the things you assume Barack Obama can't do would apply equally to just about anyone who runs for President. Mike Huckabee by his own admission knows little of economics or foreign policy. When GW Bush became President he had never traveled outside the United States and has repeatedly shown his lack of enough general knowledge to solve a crossword puzzle. John McCain survived prison camp; that speaks for his personal courage and ability to endure, but it doesn't say a word about his understanding of, what did you say, medicine and the life-cycle of drugs (do you hold that a degree in pharmacology should be requisite for the Presidency?).

What we can look at is what a candidate has done so far in his life. One who demonstrates the capacity to learn in the past shows the capacity to learn in the future. Perhaps you are a person who scorns higher education---there are many such on townhall---but those who understand these matters know that JD Harvard means something, and that to be on any law review at any law school means something, and that to be editor of a law review means a great deal, and that to be editor of Harvard's law review means everything. In my personal experience, one thing it means is that such a student can basically choose any Supreme Court clerkship he wants after he gets the JD. Obama could have gone that way, or he could have named his salary in corporate law, but he chose public service, God knows why since it seems all he gets for his trouble is grief from people like you.

Community organization? Taught Constitutional Law? Practiced Civil Rights law? Ten years as a Senator? None of it counts, according to you.

WHAT MAKES OBAMA BLACK???
Is it the old slave days "one drop" rule? One drop of "negro" blood makes one a negro?? His mother is caucasian, he is no more black than white. Ironically the old liberal double standard of "blacks can support a black because he is a self-proclaimed black (come on folks, let's not delude ourselves into believing that this is not at least 90% of their motivation) and it is NOT racist", but Heaven help the white male that would claim the reverse!! He would be condemned to months of "sensitivity training". All those smiling white faces seen at the Obama rallies might smile less as the Libs, led by Obama in the white house actively enforce more "affirmative action" policies, supported by their appointed federal judges. When you all you white metro-sexual males are passed over for careers/jobs by the inevitable policies that will develop...I will say, I told ya so!!

To impeachbush
I agree with your estimation of Bush. Without family money and political clout, I see him as a failed used car salesman struggling to get to his AA meeting and make his child support payment.

Ridiculous comparison to Dr. Cohen
Comparing Dr. Cohen to Barrack Hussein Obama is like comparing a junior high school quarterback to Tom Brady. If you need to process you liberal-wasp guilt, volunteer at a soup kitchen, don't foist a socialist on the nation.

Petrovian
This shouldn't be too hard for you to understand. In 2000 and 2004, you probably understood when Evangelistic Christians said "We want to see one of our own in the White House". Well, now Obama is cleaning up the votes of citizens who are intelligent and educated. The more education, the more likely they are to vote for Obama. "We want to see one of our own in the White House."

Warrior

Your Rationalizations post was spot on. Obama has no clue of how the infrastructure of this country is run and what makes it tick.

Lilly, go back to Moveon.Org
LILLY,

Intelligent? Debatable, intelligence has many measures and educational attainment does not neccessarily equate to intellegence. Obama is only harvesting the fruits of liberal white guilt and years of leftist "entitlement" indoctrination at our universities. Lacking virtue and common sense is a more likely explanation, typical of liberals(Marxists).

Hello Bob
...not too ignorant to know how to use Google. Try "jobs offshore tax benefit".

The Communists are Here

“Obama embraces socialist programs which have the backing of generations of the American people. Why would you have us remain slaves to a musty old document? The American people have embraced change. The American people have learned from experience. From that definition conservatives are not part of the American people.” … Proud Liberal

Spoken like a true Communist. If you do not respect and honor the Constitution, then you sir are a Traitor and should be handled according to our laws.

lilly the imbecile
oblahma is, as you put it, cleaning up because people are sick of the clinton crime family. However those of us on the right have been continually hectored by your hatred of capitolism, repubs, conservs and christians. If your pathetic world only more socialism counts where earners continued to be punished through an unfair tax system that continues to reward the losers you want to wrap yopur arms around. But should the clintons prevail, you will rush back to her defense and rally to her cause and forget your crush on oblahma

B.H. IOBAMA's record
to Impeach Bush, thanks for the litany of Obama's accomplishments:

233 regarding healthcare reform--
yes, ever closer to socialiazed medicine
125 on poverty and public assistance--
more handouts to vagrants and ne'er do wells
112 crime fighting bills--
with a focus on criminal rights
97 economic bills--
more socialist interference
60 human rights and anti-discrimination bills--
but not ONE for the unborn
21 ethics reform bills--
all aimed at his opponents
15 gun control--
of course, my response, "when you pry my cold dead finger"
6 veterans affairs and many others--
coming from someone who has NEVER worn a
uniform or taken a risk to protect his nation.

His educational credentials, his JD? As shared by another fawning leftist poster, ahh...the wonders of affirmative action.


International Socialists abound..
TOP GUN, right on!! traitors all. The wonders of the American educational system that teaches its young to destroy their own nation.

I do wish they would stick to moveon.org's site.

All That Support Obama
Do you believe the answer to what ails us is more government? Do you actually believe that bigger government taking more of what the nation produces and controlling more of what the nation does will make things in America better? If you do then you are suffering from some type of religious derangement.

Please explain to me how the same people that managed the response to Katrina are going to make life in America better. The only group that responded effectively to Katrina were the military and what do you think will become of them in the next Democrat administration? Same thing that happened when Clinton was in office. Cut, cut, cut and invite an attack.

Obama, just Another Communist

“What we can look at is what a candidate has done so far in his life. One who demonstrates the capacity to learn in the past shows the capacity to learn in the future. Perhaps you are a person who scorns higher education---there are many such on townhall---but those who understand these matters know that JD Harvard means something, and that to be on any law review at any law school means something, and that to be editor of a law review means a great deal, and that to be editor of Harvard's law review means everything. In my personal experience, one thing it means is that such a student can basically choose any Supreme Court clerkship he wants after he gets the JD. Obama could have gone that way, or he could have named his salary in corporate law, but he chose public service, God knows why since it seems all he gets for his trouble is grief from people like you.” … lilly

All book knowledge and NO real world business experience is the perfect recipe for disaster when one seeks to be writing policy that affects others lives, and THE WORLD.

”Community organization?” … lilly

Did it so he could say he did it when he knew he would be running for office later in life. To ignore big money for his volunteer work when he had student large loans to pay proves this point.

“Taught Constitutional Law? “ … lilly

LAUGHABLE. Yet he wants to ignore our Constitution and bring Socialism to the USA. That makes him a Traitor if he chooses to not honor our CONSTITUTION that he would swear to do. He is lying before he is even in office.

“Practiced Civil Rights law? Ten years as a Senator? None of it counts, according to you.” … lilly

He obviously DID NOT learn anything in those positions or he would be teaching it to people he lectures to and how what he has learned, he will apply. Seems the only thing he has learned is TAX EVERYONE and bring Communism to America.

Obama offers nothing
Obama must be one of the most compelling speakers I've ever heard. He really knows how to turn a phrase.

But that means nothing.

Some of our greatest presidents were lousy speakers. Thomas Jefferson was such a terrible speaker that he didn't give his State of the Union in person. He sent a written copy to Congress.

I just don't see how Barack could lead this country. I don't understand how he would be prepared to take an emergency call at 3am.

I wouldn't sleep easy with the thought that Obama was the man in charge of keeping my family safe.

trulib
have you ever lived where hurricanes occurred. Bubba showed up 5 days after andrew hit florida and the msm was amazed how quickly he showed up. The govt sent new orleans 200 million for hurricane prep which they blew on other projectys. You convenient;y overlook the incompetance of choclate city nagin and I haven't a clue blanco. And what of the stupidity of the morons in new orleans that lacked the brains to get out of town. When we lived in a hurricane zone we were told to have supplies for a week and not to expect any govt help for possibly a week if a storm came ashore. I guyess in your world the morons in new orleans are both too lazy and stupid to survive without a govt that can rtescue them from every disaster except all the poor choices they continue to make. Why is it years later we are still paying for these deadbeats to survive only off the public teat. Isn't it long past time for these losers to again take care of their own lives

HEY PROUD LIBERAL (OXYMORON)
YOU WROTE:More than ever we need a philosopher with a grand, overarching vision of how the world comes together. As scientists say, "we need a lumper, not a divider."

OMG, do we start singing Kumbaya now, or later?

Grow a set, the world in an adversarial place and as Winston Churchill once said "a nation does not have friends, it has interests". Barrack Hussein Obama and his ilk will work to castrate the strongest nation in the world, the last great hope for mankind with a socialist/utopian policy.

Question for the Communists here.

What program is Obama offering America that DOES NOT have socialism as part of it's recipe?

TopGun
Socialism is good. If it weren't good the United States would have a Laissez Faire free market economy. But that was tried and found wanting by the American citizens. We adjusted. Conservatives did not.

Wrong Again

“Socialism is good. If it weren't good the United States would have a Laissez Faire free market economy. But that was tried and found wanting by the American citizens. We adjusted. Conservatives did not.” … proud Liberal

BUZZ!

Wrong

In the 19th century we had NO debt and NO socialism.

In the 20th century, Communists brought us debt, socialism, and bankruptcy looking us in the face.

TopGun/Warrior
Apparently you two know how the country works (or at least think you do). Then you guys should be our president. (I know, I know. You only criticize, don't really DO anything.)

oblahma and lawsuit
a poster to politico lists a lawsuit filed by some man who is suing oblahma from the result of a homosexual relationship. Perhaps this is what oblahma means by change

wildwest
They won't take care of themselves as long as someone is promising to do it for them and the rest of the nation stands there nodding their heads in agreement. We have to be a nation of morons to see what happened to New Orleans and then turn around and pour billions into a spot that could be under water six months from now. .

No DEBT and no SOCIALISM?
TopGun, I believe you should retire from the world and join a Buddhist monastery where you won't be feeling so much stress over debt and socialism. They've really got you up tight.

Senator All Day
There you have it, as a U.S. Senator Obama is one of 100, the Senate is smaller than most high school senior classes--and he has been in the Senate a shorter time than he spent in High School --I suppose being President of the Student Council qualifies one for President of the United States. No, I am wrong--it is holding hearings and acquiring knowledge about drug use by athletes playing a child's game for money. Obama is greener and less informed than any retired Military Officer that owns and runs a small business in any mid-sized town in America.

Proud Liberal
Here is a portion of my resume: Retired U.S.Army Colonel, 26 years active military service, 2 years in combat. Awards: Legion of Merit, Silver Star, Bronze Star "V" Device, Purple Heart, and 12 other awards and service medals. I have lived in 4 foreign countries and visited 31 others on 5 continents. Executive Vice President of a Private Company for 12 years. Now retired and answer blather from people like you.

Liberalism is a Mental Illness

“TopGun / Warrior
Apparently you two know how the country works (or at least think you do). Then you guys should be our president. (I know, I know. You only criticize, don't really DO anything.)” … Political Liberal

Maybe we just have “real” world experience and the intelligence needed to solve our country’s issues instead of taxing people into socialism.

You have a mental illness. It is called liberalism.

Liberalism and Child Porn

Turn on Michael Savage right now Proud Liberal. He is talking about one of your liberal friends, a San Francisco radio talk show host who got caught participating in child pornography which the sick liberal news papers refuse to report on.

Liberalism, a mental illness.

Oh

The child porn radio show host, guess what…… he worked for Barbara Boxer too.

Birds with a feather…



Warrior
You don't believe in states? I thought Republicans were big on states. You say that Obama has been a senator for only two years. Not so. Ten years. Eight in Illinois, two federal. A state is not chopped liver.

Re your suggestion that anyone with experience running a small business would be better qualified than Obama, running a small business does not qualify a man to be President of the United States. And, while we're on the subject, right now Obama happens to be running a very large business. Do you have a clue what goes into running a campaign of presidential magnitude? And remember that he has run his senatorial campaigns as well, and with success. But, let me guess: I bet you think that white folks are running his campaigns for him. Some of them just went down to the 'hood and picked up any old black guy on a street corner and told him what to say.

The right wing
The sad facts are is that the rw will, and has been, making up every sort of lies as they think it takes. When McCain ran against Bush in one election they told people the most outrageous lies and even had a vet go out and tell people he let down "his brothers' in veitnam.

Higene
I actually just saw the 1962 version of "The Manchurian Candidate" last night. I'd only seen it in its entirety for the first time fairly recently, and I'd put it in my top ten list of the greatest films ever made. I confess I haven't seen Denzel Washington's version, and I don't intend to. Nothing against Mr. Washington, but how do you beat Frank Sinatra in top form, and who could out-do Angela Lansbury as Laurence Harvey's mother-from-hell? Also, since the Cold War ended long before Washington's remake, you just can't re-capture the environment that made the original so chilling in any contemporary recasting. I really wish, in fact, that the entertainment industry would learn this, that what worked in the 1960's ("Mission Impossible" comes to mind) just can't be nonchalantly tailored to fit the world of this new millenium, because the entertainment of that prior time had the Cold War to play off of; playing off the War on Terror or the War on Drugs just isn't the same thing.

Warrior
I assume it was your choice to join the military.
My mail carrier chose to be a mail carrier. But she hasn't seen fit to try and impress me with all her citations for on-time-delivery.

Whatever choices we make, Warrior, we need to make them for our own satisfaction, not to take care of other people, not for the gratitude of other people, not for the prestige we think we will acquire, but strictly for our own inner satisfaction.

You sound happy for your choice and that's the only accolade you'll receive from me.

Proud Liberal
writes, "More than ever we need a philosopher with a grand, overarching vision of how the world comes together. As scientists say, "we need a lumper, not a divider."

Are you for real? I think not. He he, just on here to stir up the troops for November? Musty old document?

If you are a real person just remember, when your grand visionary starts arching over me and mine, I will be reaching for my second amendment. The only philosopher I will ever follow has not come back yet.

Bush Caused Katrina
Didn't he?

Don't let the facts get in the way.

NO review of the election EVER found Gore the winner. And you know the NYT really tried.

Poison gas IS a weapon of mass destruction and it massively killed Kurds. Saddam had them and used them. Repeating phrases over and over doesn't make it true.

Bush is not stupid. His grades were better than Kerry's. Kerry has never released his medical records from the service. The ones on Bush were well established fakes promoted by a prominent mainstem media network.

I seriously doubt Bush could have any deep dark secret or conspiracy with the scrutiny he gets. No pass for him as for the Clintons or Obama. But then he is a white male and not of a select protected group.

How can we solve any problems when we are following a fairy tale. It would be nice if facts would be part of the discussion before leaping to more government control. No matter who is in charge.

Proud Liberal
writes, "Whatever choices we make, Warrior, we need to make them for our own satisfaction, not to take care of other people, not for the gratitude of other people, not for the prestige we think we will acquire, but strictly for our own inner satisfaction."

You sound positively demonic tonight Lib. What's up? What weird things do you do for your inner satisfaction?

Lilly, the Dreamer

“You don't believe in states? I thought Republicans were big on states. You say that Obama has been a senator for only two years. Not so. Ten years. Eight in Illinois, two federal. A state is not chopped liver.” … lilly

A state representative or federal representative position DOES NOT give you REAL WORLD experience. Get a clue. You have none, nada.

”Re your suggestion that anyone with experience running a small business would be better qualified than Obama, running a small business does not qualify a man to be President of the United States. And, while we're on the subject, right now Obama happens to be running a very large business. Do you have a clue what goes into running a campaign of presidential magnitude? And remember that he has run his senatorial campaigns as well, and with success. But, let me guess: I bet you think that white folks are running his campaigns for him. Some of them just went down to the 'hood and picked up any old black guy on a street corner and told him what to say.” … lilly

ROFLMAO. I heard this lame excuse the other day. Now I see Obama’s game plan here to satisfy his inexperience.

Yeah, let’s pretend a campaign is the same as running a business. Laughable. Pure entertainment here. You libs never stop trying to cover up your short comings do you?

A campaign is more like a pyramid scheme than a true business.

"Thank you for your service"
I simply think that both Hannity and Hewitt, whom I hear say this often to those who have served, actually demean both the military man and the civilian.

I really don't want anyone going into the military thinking they are defending me in any way. I don't ask them to do that.

To posit that all the military veterans are self-sacrificing individuals, sacrificing their lives for civilians I do think reduces them to a one dimensional fantasy that is ultimately demeaning to them. It implies a weakness in them.

To imply that I should be greateful for someone doing something for me that I didn't ask for also demeans me.

As for Obama and his overarching understanding of how things fit together I am quite serious. People who don't understand the reciprocality of the universe are dangerous people.

Obama's legislation of infanticide
A Chicagoland nurse can enlighten others on Obama’s policies in Illinois, “the Land of Lincoln.” Her firsthand knowledge of Obama’s legislation of infanticide is recounted at
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=51 121

Barack is trumping Shrillary
...with a better game plan
I think that when they autopsy her campaign many will point to Slick Willie as the loose cannon that backfired... the race card thing was STUPID, but leave it to the Clintonista's to try any dirty trick. The tears thing could only be used once, and only a few states have a lot of Mexicans actually voting (see Mexifornia)-- SO FAR.

Barack has out-campaigned her, partly because Presidente Jorge and the rest have so stunk up Washington (what else is new?!) that is is best not to be stressing experience there. Shrillary had parlayed Slick Willie's adultery into a Senate seat (as even honest libs like Howard Fineman admit), but too many correctly do not see Slick's time in the W.H. as HER experience, though she tries to play that for all it is worth.

Barack is an empty suit so far on details, but so was Jimma' Carter in '76 when he followed another failure/bad smell in the W.H... appearance passes for reality to many. And he got lucky to have the underwhelming liberal open border RINO Amnesty Juan McQuisling as his opponent. We are sick of hearing the neoCON drivel about how we must never leave Iraq; it is the only tune the old man can play. He admits that he does not understand economics-- swell time for that "straight talk."
We had better support a lot of REAL Republicans for Congress to stop the bleeding and save the republic from the ILLEGAL invasion and the permanent welfare state, which the 'Crats will have when the ILLEGALS all actually vote, which will not even require citizenship... that's what the driver's license ploy is all about.

proud liberal
you ought to be ashamed

it is the brave sacrifice made by those in uniform that gives you the right to say everything you say, including your shameful ingratitude

in many countries in this world you would be executed for speaking as you do

you say what you like because of the protection those in uniform give you

no one is demeaning you; you demean and disgrace yourself

make sure you say loud and clear that everyone should consider you a typical obama/clinton supporter. then we'll win for sure

Proud Liberal
writes, "As for Obama and his overarching understanding of how things fit together I am quite serious. People who don't understand the reciprocality of the universe are dangerous people."

You are a very dangerous person.

Husseine Obama's Core Values
were originally taught to him in some Muslim school in Indonesia, and refined in Saudi Arabia. Now he is involved with African racists. He is promising change, if we allow him to become President. When someone is walking on thin ice, is change good, if they head towards the middle? How does BHO know which direction to head? From where does he get his perspective? It seems to me, he has a disturbing number of the traits predicted by The Bible and several more recent,yet fairly reliable prophets (Nostrils McDomas, among others), of--------The Antichrist. One of the most sickening is , just like Hillatola, people supporting him cannot give one logical reason, and will admit it, yet will not change their blind obedience. It is kinda scary, to me. I gotta go throw up.

Warrior
Islamist's(not to be confused with Muslims,--- probably) insist nothing is against the Islamic Law, when it comes to the Koran decreed 'War Against Infidels'. What is so unbelievable about a bright, young, well to do, radical Muslim being sent to the most powerful, yet naive, nation in history, in an attempt to help overthrow infidels, who are, admittedly, steadily more tolerant to all kinds of evil(thanks to the liberals, and the rest of us- for tolerating the liberals)? Where's the Pepto? No, the gallon sized jug.

Proud Liberal
Since this whole country was established by OUR BRAVE MILITARY.If you dislike U.S. so much, there are plenty of other countries run by people who believe the same as you. I will happily contribute to your moving fund.

To Top Gun
If you don't think state government represents real world experience, then how unhappy you must be that the only public service experience President Bush had before assuming the Presidency was as a state Governor. And two of your Republican candidates, Romney and Huckabee, advertised their gubernatorial experience.

Help Wanted... Brain optional.

Obama needs no experience. McCain is offering the job to the first Democrat to apply.

"Hope" is all we have now. Hope McCain wakes up. Hope McCain has a message. Hope McCain bumps his head on the right side.

We cannot even get a decent sound-bite out of John? Either John joins the Republican Party, or Obama gets to stuff grade-school lunch boxes with condoms.

Give us something to vote for John!

Glasser
You got your facts wrong. But, I bet that doesn't bother you. It is obvious that, like most conservatives, you prefer an authoritarian state to a democratic state, you prefer homogeneous culturally mandated thought to freedom of individual thought. There are religious institutions in which you would have order,hierarchy, a regimented life which you could follow and not have to make decisions about what to do and you'd be happier there than out in a democracy.

Free Speaker
You speak nonsense. You can't separate the "men in uniform" from anything else about America. It's all one piece. The men in uniform didn't do it for me or for you. Everyone of them did it for their own personal reasons. And you do demean the United States of America to perpetuate such an infantile and reductionary perspective on America. Get an education, my friend. Learn to think!

Highly Commendable column, Mr Blackwell
Obama is the epitomy of an unaccountable, Kum-by-ya double talking politician, using his unknown status, and his race..regardless of what he says... Not only is he no JFK..He is no Clarance Thomas, JC Watts, Michael Steele or Colen Powell (just to mention a few well qualified Black political leaders).

Meanwhile, John McCain has a Political Advisor, Mark McKinnin (former Dem) who is so in awe of B Hussein Obama that he can't bear the thought of having to campaign against him.. according to a blog on ABC News.
Aa far as I am concerned, if John McCain can't bring himself to fire the inane "Mr Squishy", asap, he might as well hang it up.. One good reason why Huckabee should remain in the race!

Opps.. misspelled "Mr Squishy"'s real..
name.. Mark McKinnon. McCain's inane

"political advisor".

all you proud anti-communists:
I suppose all you anti-communists oppose this:

"to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity"

That would make you treasonous b***ards.

Have you ever heard of "General welfare".

That's the f***ing reason we have a government.

Low IQ Lilly

“If you don't think state government represents real world experience, then how unhappy you must be that the only public service experience President Bush had before assuming the Presidency was as a state Governor. And two of your Republican candidates, Romney and Huckabee, advertised their gubernatorial experience.” … lilly

You are a waste of time to debate being you are clueless about the real world.

I said representatives not STATE government. That means house and senate seats do not obtain real world experience. Running a state is the same as running a business being it has several different departments you are responsible for and a statewide budget.

You freaking low IQ liberals ALWAYS have to twist the debate around and what is actually being stated being you always are made out to be fools when you get your rears handed to you when the facts are debated.

You also left out the fact of George’s oil industry work and professional baseball team work for more real world experience. If you are going to participate in a debate, it is wise to list some facts so you look halfway intelligent even though you are wrong.

Lazy Liberals

“Have you ever heard of "General welfare".

That's the f***ing reason we have a government.” … trughes

If it was the government’s responsibility to support your lazy rear and other homeless like you, then why didn’t the government support people at the beginning when the country was founded when the founders were still alive who wrote the Constitution? Don’t you think they would have corrected this misdeed if it were meant to be the way the lazy liberals think it should be.


Trughes - Meaning of General Welfare
t*** "trughes writes: Friday, February, 15, 2008 1:50 AM
all you proud anti-communists:
I suppose all you anti-communists oppose this:

"to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity"

That would make you treasonous b***ards.

Have you ever heard of "General welfare".

That's the f***ing reason we have a government.
" ***

Do you kiss your wife with that mouth?

"General Welfare" is not "Specific Welfare".
The term "General Welfare" has nothing to do with "entitlement" programs like Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid.

Providing for the "General Welfare" means that the government establishes an acceptable environment in which citizens can live, like having a relatively stable economy or low levels of crime, not that the government takes care of specific citizens, even if done so in large numbers.

Proud Liberal
Accolades from you? You jest.

Is Obama Good for Business?

Warren Buffet on Real Estate & Obama

WATCH VIDEO

http://controlcongress.com/uncategorized/is-obama-good-for- business

what "general welfare" is not
500% increase in oil prices, while two oilmen rule their government by intimidation and fear.

Secret meetings about the "energy policy"

Spying on citizens, then re-writing the laws, so that retro-actively, broken laws can't be prosecuted.

Starting wars, so the power of the executive cannot be challenged.

Lying about secret evidence provided only to the president, regarding threats to national security, so no one can challenge the evidence.

Changing tax laws so the weathiest 1% get tax cuts, while the rest of us get to pay more.

Profiting from war.

Protecting fraud in overseas government contracts.

I could go on, but my stomache is starting to turn, thinking that there are people who actively support these crimes and a bunch of crooks that have carried them out.

The government of the United States of America was established by enlightened thinkers, followers of John Locke's philosophy, that everyone benefits if everyone can live well, "general welfare". That means a safety net. It does not mean you support people who don't contribute, don't work.

Proud Liberal
You posit above that you do not owe any gratitude to the men and women who served in the armed forces because they chose to do so.
I am grateful that they did. Just as I am grateful that some fine people CHOSE to be teachers and nurses.
What's your problem?

Proud Liberal
Do I understand correctly that you believe the US Constitution is a "musty old document"?


Obama, President ...NOT!
I had some respect for Obama until he paraded his mother in front of the cameras ... showing that she is white, and telling all about her struggle with Cancer.
This is sympathy theatrics at its lowest.
He is true to no people, to no religion, and certainly not to our republic.

Proud Liberal
What country do you live in? You must not be from around here.

Reply To Ken Blackwell

I nominate candidates for President who we all can believe in, are strict constructionist, pro-life conservatives, against abortions, for the war in Iraq, for conservative supreme court justices, against affirmative action, Ken Blackwell, Thomas Sowell, Larry Elder, and Walter Williams.

And by the way free marketers, Mr. Blackwell, Sowell, Elder, Williams, send me your government rebate $600 and $1200 checks, that you and your families will get, since of course, you don't believe in government interference in the free market.


How appropriate
Killer writes:
PURE BLACK" is a stupid use of words and it violates even your sensibilities.There is no "PURE" anything,white or black.If God could send "US" a virus, that would "KILL" those over 65,America might have a CHANCE!!!
With sentiments like these, you seem to have chosen the perfect name of yourself. I am betting you are also for partial birth abortion and against the death penalty.

Impeach Bush writes: "How dare you criticize Barrack". it is pretty simply but I will use words of one syllable so you can get it. This is still AMERICA.

Lilly: you don't get it. Barrack's change is total democratic control of the house, the senate and the white house so there are no checks and balances on their taxes or use of the money. This is not new politics, it is old politics. We tried it under LBJ-it doesn't work.

TO JEANE MARIE AND HUMBLYWISE...
JEANE, BABY, YOU DON'T HAVE THE SLIGHTEST CLUE ABOUT THE HORRIFIC MESS
CARTER MADE. THEY VOTED FOR HIM ON CHARM.
TO HUMBLYWISE: GOOD BRAIN!!!!
YEAH, YOU HIT THE NAIL RIGHT ON THE HEAD. A WOMAN, AN ARAB-AFRICAN MAN, AN
OLD MAN. PEOPLE WHO VOTE FOR CANDIDATES BASED ON THEIR LOOKS, FAITH, GENDER,SKIN, ARTICULATION,AND SO ON ARE KNOWN AS "THE ISSUE NON-CONTENT". THEY HAVE NO AGENDA, NO KNOWN ISSUES TO SPEAK OF, AND WILL BLATANTLY CAST A BALLOT ON IGNORANCE.
SUCH,SADLY, IS GOING TO HAPPEN IF PEOPLE VOTE ISSUES,AGENDAS,ETC; AND NOT THE ABOVE.

FROM ALAMO

Just thought
I'd share some observations on B.O.

http://forgottenprophets.blogspot.com/2008/02/bad-bo.html

J

Mr. Blackwell could learn a thing or two
From Barrack Obama, in lieu of his disaster of a campaign in Ohio. It's a lesson some of you need to learn because the rise of Barrack Obama is not because the left loves him. It is because the right HATES him.
The right is being politically blindsided. After broadsiding Hillary for the past decade or so their politcal guns are worn out. They did succeed in making a lot of people hate Hillary, but that is becoming more and more irrelevent.
So now as the Democratic ship trains its guns on "The Big Tent", the GOP finds itself out of ammo.
The GOP's shrill bombardment has deafened some and sounds like nails scratching a chalkboard to others. To most it's just B.S.
When you've accused everybody and their grandma of being to far to the left for the past 10000 years and your only argument is "He's too far to the left"....... (No I'm not talking about your Liberal Candidates)
Why not just accuse him of accepting donations from the man boy love association? That worked well eh Mr. B?
The fact is ballots are in short supply and it's not because of new energized GOP voters. It's because the neo-con political guns/style did the job for the Democrats. So in a way the Blackwellians have done their part in motivating Democratic voters.
Perhaps Mr. Obama will inspire them pesky Obamacrats to do something good.

It takes a winner.
I find it very amusing that this guy thinks he's on to something. Ken, How did your conservative message workout for you in Ohio a few years ago?

Twill be interesting!!
Here is what I think is interesting, with all the talk about history and everything. If Obama is the Dem candidate (and I think it's a given), what will happen if he LOSES in November, particularly by a close vote. IF McCain wins, it will be by the most narrow of margins and I only hope that we don't see rioting across the inner cities with looting (looters don't have to have much of a reason) assaults, etc. like we saw with Reggie King and other "excuses" by these criminals.

And talk about FRAUD!! It will make the election of "W" over "Mr. Excitement" in 2000 seem like a cake walk!

Yep!'Twill be interesting!!

hey B. Arnold??
you have some serious issues???
a liberal president is bad for the economy?? well Mr. benedick arnold how do you explain 92-00??? where the president left a surplus not the biggest deficit EVER we have now thanks to yor republican president??? are you freaking serious????

you think spending 12 billion(borrowed) a month on iraq for years to come is good for the economy??

you think that at a time of the most longest costliest in terms of treasure war that giving TAX BREAKS TO THE WEALTHY like you is GOOD FOR THE ECONOMY???

i got one thing to say to a benedick arnold like you

GOT BRAIN???????????

hey B. Arnold??
you have some serious issues???
a liberal president is bad for the economy?? well Mr. benedick arnold how do you explain 92-00??? where the president left a surplus not the biggest deficit EVER we have now thanks to yor republican president??? are you freaking serious????

you think spending 12 billion(borrowed) a month on iraq for years to come is good for the economy??

you think that at a time of the most longest costliest in terms of treasure war that giving TAX BREAKS TO THE WEALTHY like you is GOOD FOR THE ECONOMY???

i got one thing to say to a benedick arnold like you

GOT BRAIN???????????

Strongest Healthcare?
"For all its faults, our health care system is the strongest in the world."

What faults are you referring to?
If we spend almost twice what every other country spends on healthcare per capita, then why is our overall health lower? That doesn't seem to be indicative of having the most powerful health care system in the world. Granted, our health and well-being aren't decided upon solely by the strength of our healthcare system. (…At risk to my own character…) America is filled with ignorant people. Let us all continue to argue hyperboles. The simple fact I’ve pointed out is that we spend the most and aren’t any healthier for it.

Obama/the real truth.
Obama by Ken Blackwell

The full column by Mr. Blackwell"the real Obama , has been distributed
over the internet. This was added,Revelation states that" the anti christ
will be a 44 year muslum black man". nowhere in Rev. or any other
book of the bible is this written..


I AM A REPUBLICAN AND WILL VOTE FOR MCCAIN, BUT THIS IS THE HEIGHT OF DIRTY POLITICS NOMATTER WHO IT IS AIMED AT.

EMILIE M. KIRK ekirk2@socal.rr,com

hmmmm
I think people need to question McCain's ability and truthfulness. Just look at these news clips, side by side, of McCain speaking for himself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEtZlR3zp4c

And as a person of color, let me assure you that Ken Blakwell no more speaks for all black people than Clarence Thomas or Uncle Thomas! Just because some ignorant reporter pours another load of yellow journalism into the American psyche, doesn’t mean it’s true! The Republicans and their insipid minions are just looking for another non issue to latch onto to justify their xenophobic, racist mindsets as they march out to vote for the darkside AGAIN! Whether they’re rallying around Reagan’s welfare reform cries (1% of the budget), Dumbya Senior’s Willie Horton demagoguery (released by a RepubliNazi Governor) or the Village Idiot’s gay marriage homophobia, it’s just subterfuge to avoid the real issues that affect all Americans except for the wealthy 1% that the Gay Old Pedophile party protects!

Obama is like JFK
The Obama I see is bright, smart, intelligent, and a fast learner. He also can draw huge crowds, and speaks extremely well. He is more like JFK than anyone else in the public eye. Now JFK did plenty of things that were wrong, but people loved him. He had class. Obama has that same magnetism.

Interesting for sure!
Well, Dick says Obama is intelligent. Did he hear the speech Obama gave in Oregon? In that speech, Obama stated his campaign had taken him all over the US, into 57 states, and that was without Alaska and Hawaii because his campaign manager wouldn't let him go there. Did the US inherit more states when I wasn't looking? When Obama spoke about his minister, Obama claimed that he didn't understand his minister to say those things. So where was Obama for the past 20 years. And then when he divorced himself from Wright, Obama stated that Wright was hurting his campaign. Obama's speech was all about what Wright was doing to his campaign, not what Wright was doing to the country. Is that not selfish or what? For this election, we will have to hold our noses upon entering the poles. They each have way too much baggage. Where is strong leadership from a person who is not afraid to say what really needs to be said when you need one?

woman for president
I do believe that a woman will be president in 2009... it depends on which person is elected as to which woman is president..

either hillary or condie..

my thoughts are this either a redneck or father time will leave us with the first woman president..

we do not need blacks making racist statements calling conservative black men and women UNCLE TOMS.. a racist is a racist..

blackwell is just an american!!!!! a good american.. a true patriot...

Respone to JK Blackwell's stupid email
I just recvd a forwarded email from KBlackwell, and frankly I was appalled. If you want to quote the Bible, you must first READ it. In the book of 2Thess 2:3 It is dangerous to label any person as the antichrist. Paul mentions the antichrist, not so that we might identify him specifically but so we might be ready for anything that threatens our faith. God is in control, and He will be victorious over the antichrist. Our task is to be prepared for Christ's return and to spread the gospel so that even more people will also be prepared. Rev 13:3,4 The antichrist is a false messiah, people wll follow him because of his power and miracles. THIS DOES NOT DESCRIBE BARACK OBAMA!!RD UR BIBLE!!
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