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Friday, June 06, 2008
Jonah Goldberg :: Townhall.com Columnist
A Messiah in Our Midst?
by Jonah Goldberg
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Is Barack Obama the Messiah?

Before we answer that question, let me vent for a moment. In 2000 I was cruelly denied the Pulitzer despite being the only columnist in America to ask the pressing question: Is Al Gore an alien? The evidence was there for all to see. He was born nine months after the mysterious alien sighting at Roswell, N.M. His weird syntax and verbal rhythms are otherworldly. He often refers to "earth" or "this planet" as if he's just passing through, and he once angrily complained to the Washington Post that it had printed a picture of the earth from outer space "upside down."

There is no "upside down" in space - unless Gore had his childhood view in mind.

At least I'm not in the wilderness this time. Lots of people have pondered the possibility that Barack is our Divine Redeemer. There are Web sites dedicated to the question "Is Barack Obama the Messiah?" Google that question and you'll get more than 35,000 hits. (Enter just the words "Messiah" and "Obama" and you'll get nearly 10 times that.)

But there's more concrete evidence. Since Obama declared his candidacy, there have been remarkably few biblical plagues. And lions and lambs seem open to bilateral negotiations.

Obama's apostles are hard to dismiss. Oprah simply calls him "The One," because "we need politicians who know how to be the truth." (Jesus says in John 14:6 "I am the way, the truth ...") Oprah goes on to say Obama will help us "evolve to a higher plane," which would put Obama in the role of our Intelligent Designer.

According to the New York Times, Obama's volunteers are taught to eschew discussions of the issues and instead "testify" about how they "came to Obama."

For many, he's no retro-redeemer, but a 21st century savior, a Matrix-messiah and Neo for our modern-day Nineveh. Self-help guru Deepak Chopra dubs Obama "a quantum leap in American consciousness," while prominent "leadership coach" Eve Konstantine assures us that, "He's our product out of the all-knowing quantum field of intelligence."

Obama willing, I will never be stuck next to these people on a plane.

Michelle Obama is arguably Obamanity's greatest evangelist, even though she has a streak of Old Testament smiting and wrath to her. She insists her husband has redeemed the entire nation (hence her newfound pride in America). She proclaims her husband is the sort of leader who will fix our broken souls. But don't hope for grace on the cheap. "The change Barack is talking about is hard," she insists, "so don't get too excited, because Barack is going to demand that you, too, be different."

Those of you who thought we had a Second Amendment to keep government from fixing your soul are so 20th century. Evolve already.

And then there's the Gospel according to Obama himself. In January, he told Dartmouth students that they will know to vote for him because "... a light will shine through that window, a beam of light will come down upon you, you will experience an epiphany, and you will suddenly realize that you must go to the polls and vote for Barack."

When asked in an interview what sin is, Obama defined it as "Being out of alignment with my values." Apparently, the editor failed to capitalize the "M" in "My."

But such mistakes can be forgiven, for Hillary has been cast out and the nomination is nigh. So we can get cracking on fixing America - and ourselves.

"I am absolutely certain," Obama proclaimed in his victory speech, "that generations from now, we will be able to look back and tell our children that this was the moment when we began to provide care for the sick and good jobs for the jobless; this was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal. This was the moment - this was the time - when we came together to remake this great nation ..."

Now, if you're under the mistaken impression that sick people had some care, or that a few jobs were to be found prior to June 2008, or that maybe - just maybe - the oceans don't rise and fall with the election returns, or that America itself doesn't need "remaking," you're not one of the "ones we've been waiting for."

But you might be one of the ones Al Gore has been waiting for. You'd understand if you realized "Earth in the Balance" is a cookbook.

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The word "antichrist" comes to mind!

And I thought being a Marxist was all we had to worry about.

Geeze, was I wrong!



Good article Jonah...
...and very scary! It seems Obamasiah 'The Pompous One' is starting to believe his own BS!


A Marxist Messiah??
The man is a total head case, approximately size 18. Good Lord, deliver us from false prophets.

Beware of Change
Didn't Stalin, Hitler, and all of the other Marxist preach change, fool enough people to put themselves into power, then muder millions and millions of people to purge the undesirables from their utopias.

A Long Line Of Evangelical Prophets
June 6, 2006 This is a good, tightly written article and I like the creative personality it exudes in this gloom and doom political year. By the way, I have always been fascinated by the City of Los Angeles capers from long ago. I am referring to the days of when the LAPD were like Dragnet and particularly The Black Dahlia mystery that still holds our attention today. Around that time there was a female evangelist by the name of Aimee Semple McPherson who though having for the most part endured regretable life experiences that ran the gamut of horrific and damaging relationships with men and even a bogus kidnapping event that mimicked the Bosnia story, still managed to enthrall and captivate massive crowds with her powers as a religious leader and evangelist. She transcends today into a stark reminder that human beings can be motivated as a sea of bad behavioral excusers regarding, as instructed, that national health care, solving the war, fixing the economy and all of the extremely complicated and long term issues that we face will be quickly resolved under the umbrella of a non-specific catch phrase. Dale Carnegie, Billy Graham, Jim Jones,Malcolm X and Elvis all had evangelical qualities. Whatever they told the American people from a podium has yet to cause us any massive damage as a country. This Election 2008 is not just important, it will determine our destiny, good or bad. I would urge voters to do some reading about the global situation and issues within, watch some political commentary and make a very informed and good decision this time.
commonsenseunlimited

We still have some time
Almost everyday something new appears in the resume of this anti-American con man which shows further what a phony he is. Surely, the American people will wake up before November and realize how dangerous he and his party really are. We're not all lemmings who will fall in lock step behind this fool. Let's hope so, anyway. God help us.

Please forgive Him
Thanks to TH for helping me see that Barry is no messiah, merely a very talented politician and leader whose major sin -- now and forever -- was removing Hillary from RW fundraising letters-- just as Bill's big sins were removing the issues of welfare reform and deficit spending. The Christian thing to do would be to forgive, no?

BTW, don't go lookin' for no Pulitzer this year either. Poking fun at Algore was, and is, fair game, but you might acknowledge we'd be in a whole lot better place today if the Supremes had honestly analyzed the intentions of Florida voters in 2000. (And your GOP might look a little better today as well!)

Obama can see into the future...
Maybe when he said he visited 57 states, he was not a complete and total idiot, but he had the power to see into the future that we would annex canada,mexico,puerto rico,Newark, cincinnati, berkely and libya when he visited there with Rev Wright and Farouttherekan.
Maybe when he said he would talk to the Nazi of Iran,he was not showing us his complete ignorance or dislike for the survival of Israel, but some hypnotic super power that he has just by looking into someone's eyes...Wow. I may be wrong about this guy. They did say I was stupid for spelling potatoe wrong. Hey, it sounds like toe! Give me a break.

signed

Dan Q.

Right on the messiah is here
Michelle, who has the role of John the baptist, in this play about the 2nd coming of the messiah, often ends her lectures about BO by getting the assembled multitudes to give a few dozen chants of "Yes We Can!" "Yes We Can!", Kinda adds to the religious fervor of her events. Puts one in mind of the shouts of joy that echo throught Trinity UCC when Rev Wrong is in full throat with his rants!

As alot of other posters say "God Help Us All!"

anti-Christ indeed

all hail the World Imperial Leader Obama.....

Anne
"
Location: VA

Reply # 1
Date: Jun 6, 2008 - 12:28 AM EST Subject: The word "antichrist" comes to mind!

And I thought being a Marxist was all we had to worry about.

Geeze, was I wrong!"

~~~ Hi, Anne.

Yes, now that you mention it, a lot of the 'signs' from Revelation, are coming together.





algore
You are on to something Jonah. algore is not human. He arrived here on a spsceship piloted by denniskucinish. That is why it crashed. They are both too stupid to ride a bycycle.
PS jimmycarter was the navigator.
Malcolm in KY

obama the messiah?
doesnt really make any difference as long as he doesnt clain he is untiil after the
election. and as long as he gets the votes who for some reason believe that he is., hell be president just the same. mccain could use a littel messiahing himself, ptreyy tough for him though look at him. im taking betw that by the time the election rolls around he will be so tired
he will have to wear a back brace to prevent us from seeing he is getting an old age hunch beck. any takers/ by the way being a prisoner of war doesnt mean a thing to anyone as far a knowledge and experience are concerned except that the next time he is captured he will be better able to survive because of previous experience, now if he could just arrange it so that the iraqis captrue him and obama at the same time and hold them
asprisioners, im sure his experience will out and he will show well ,. other than that, the 4 years i spent in the service, 2 in kores mean as much or as llittle as his priisonership. this doesnt mean he wont use it, it just means it doesnt mean anything special .like the U-2 pilot. gary powers was supposed to have done perhaps he should have taken steps to,insure that the enemy doesnt have a chance to capture him.. back them this was almost the official policy of the military . they looked upon thiose captured who could have prevented their capture with a lot of suspicion and distrust. look it up, he was supposed to make sure the last bullet in the pistol was for him.

If he is the antichrist, he can't lose
If he has the full power of Satan behind him, he cannot possibly lose. Everything will just break his way, as it has up till now. Think about the elevator scene in one of the Omen movies.

"Anne
Location: VA

Reply # 1
Date: Jun 6, 2008 - 12:28 AM EST Subject: The word "antichrist" comes to mind!

And I thought being a Marxist was all we had to worry about.

Geeze, was I wrong!
"

how can obama be antichrist?
Antichrist isn't supposed to appear until the third year of the Tribulation. Which means, that if he is, no one's been raptured.

While Obammer might not be antichrist - he MIGHT be just a warm up act. Clearly, Americans and the world are more easily duped than I suspected.

It's unbelievable
that this fool is even in the running for President. It's even more unbelievable the way the media and the Democrat Party are in complete denial about Oblahma's blow-out in several key states. I can only hope that that portends a blow-out in November, but it's hard to say since his opposition is a broken old man who doesn't (refuses to?) debate well and who appears more concerned with winning Democrat votes than Republican.

It's frightening to hear Oblaha tell us to "Settle down," how he's going to "Whup Congress," or hear his wife say, "Obama's going to require you to work" and realize that there are still morons that think he's the second coming of the Messiah. If he's elected, are we all going to have to hang a picture of him with a halo in our homes and refer to him as "Dear Leader"?


Earth and Beyond
Ten years ago we learned about the Heaven's Gate cult, a group of over educated techies and non-conformists who dropped out of society to live in a commune under a spiritial guru who prophesized that the Hale Bop commet would take them to the other world.

They were a weird, uni-sex looking crew. The males had themselves castrated so that they kind of morphed into females.

One day they all put on Nike sweatsuits and running shoes, laid down in their bunks, took poison and calmly died. We all saw the authorities going from room to room and discovering the corpses in their beds as if they were on display in a funeral home.

Their Messiah told them that by killing themselves they would be free of their Earthly "vessels" and thus eligible to hitch a ride on the Hale Bop comet.

Every one of these fools was an intellect. They earned their living designing Web pages and most of them had been accomplished individuals before finding their way to this cult.

Is this America's fate? I've read that most of Obama's supporters are the "well educated" liberals. As long as they decide to hitch a ride on the Hale Bop and leave the rest of us alone, that's OK.

But we should be vigilant against this "messiah", and Al Gore, the High Priest of Mother Earth, because we all know how these movements turn ugly and oppressive once in power.

Everyone needs to pay close attention to the outcome of the DC vs. Heller case that will be decided this month. It will tell us much about our future.

to reply #10...
but don't forget that John the Baptist called the Pharisees (the ulitmate hypocrites) a "brood of vipers" - of which Michelle is one of the most venomous (see Matt 3:6-8)

Remember the Kanamit Cookbook?
At least I think I have the spelling correct. It was an episode of the Twilight Zone when aliens came to earth on what seemed to be a friendly contact with earthlings and people assumed their book, "How to Serve Man" was about benevolent relations, and it ended up being a cook book! Some didn't find out until they were on a space ship with no chance of escape. Those would be our Obama lovers.

Once again, an elite is going to ask us to change in ways he and his own will not. Why is it that people having many babies they can't and won't afford and refusing to finish education and get jobs are never asked to change, only those who support them are?

cookbook
and all this time I thought Gore's cookbook would be "To Serve Man"...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/To_Serve_Man_(The_Twilight_Zon e)

Obama is a Messiah of sorts
He represents the rise of the State. He says we must change how we think to conform to the government's views. He does not speak to the responsibility those who rely on govt have for their own failures. He promises the State will provide for our well being and give our lives purpose. In other words, the State will be our God and we should give ourselves over to it. In his view, power flows from the State to the people rather than from the people to the State.

This philosophy is hardly anything new in the history of man. It is also diametrically opposed to the underlying principals of the United States. The result is always oppression of individual liberty. What would Patrick Henry say?


BHO - the Messiah of Cruel
BHO did not vote to protect babies who are born alive after abortions.
BHO did not vote to protect babies from partial birth abortions.


BHO is not the "Messiah of Cool" his disciples think he is.

Laugh now but...
This is real sickening stuff and pretty soon we need to get into the seriousness of him being our POTUS.

The conservatives are still split, all we have is McCain, and if Obama does not take Hillary as his VP, McCain does have a fighting chance of beating him.

But what if Obama does put Hillary on the ticket? Imagine this country in the next 8-16 years under their control. Imagine your rights stripped, leftist judges secured in place, your paychecks taxed beyond your means. That's just scratching the surface domestically. Imagine what happens globally.

Despite McCains faults, he is by no means anywhere close to Obama. Sure, I can't stand his pandering to Global Warming and he won't drill for oil here, but let's face it--we have to pull together to get him in. Our country and our tax dollars depend on it.

You'd rather write in a name? Bob Barr, Ron Paul or whoever? Guess what? You threw away your vote.

Say what you will about McCain and his disloyalty to the party, but he is no Obama. We really need to get serious now.

Save money
You people just don't realize the significance of His coming.

This will be the greatest economic boom to the U.S. and the world because we will no longer need expensive government run health care. He can heal the sick. (While I was listening to his acceptance speech, my aching joints began to get better, and my vision improved.)

Likewise, we can save billions in food stamps. I suggest he distribute one loaf of bread per neighborhood, and it will feed thousands.

Of course, skeptics won't accept him until Mary Ham, J. Goldberg, and a few others are hit by lightning.

Praise to The O-Man

Second Comming...
Obama shall deliver us from all evil...

God help us

jonah thanks
I needed this today! I am so worried about our future, but this just made me laugh. Thanks Jonah!

Anne
You are right on. I have seriously contemplated for months whether he may in fact be the biblical anti-Christ. It's even more scary when one considers that the historically accurate Mayan(??) calendar predicts that the world will end in 2012.

Open invitation to Obama supporters
Yesterday, Rush Limbaugh reported that in the wake of Tony Rezko's felony convictions, Obama stated, "that's not the Tony Rezko I knew."

Obviously, we have all heard that refrain before in the context of the Reverend Wright debacle. My question is simply this: why now is it not completely fair (if it wasn't before) to conclude that Senator Obama is a terrible judge of character who, in an age of global turmoil, has no business being in the White House? Is he going to say the same thing when one of his cabinet members--such as his Secretary of Defense--does something that compromises our national security?

Please advise. I sincerely welcome your replies.


nondispensationalist Evangelical view
As one who believes that the Messiah's name is Jesus Christ (Yeshua ha-M'shiach in Hebrew) and not Barry Obama or any other such name, I appreciated Jonah Goldberg's column.

As for the end of the world, the real Messiah told us it was for God to know back in the Olivet Discourse (Mt. 24, Mk 14).

However, Jonah, pleeeeeeeeez leave of the "Old Testament smiting and wrath" kind of language. It belongs to the late materialist age of biblical illiteracy. In the Bible nobody talks about Hell and damnation more than Jesus himself (and I write as someone who thinks Jesus has a right to do so; not as a scoffer). The Old Testament's the part with the "comfort ye my people" and lions and lambs lying down together (Isaiah, to be specific), while the last time I looked, the more comforting parts of the Psalms were right there in the middle of the OT part of my King James Bible. There's Gospel and Law in the Old Testament, and Gospel and Law in the New Testament, too.

Still, Obama is not all that impressive to me. He's a slick politician, and the folks who see him as some kind of American Messiah scare me.

lies
The Bible does declare that in the last days there will be strong delusion, so that people will believe a lie. We are well down that road.

Shells writes: "Laugh now but..." (#24)

How right you are... and most all posts... so far.

As much of a reprobate B. Clinton was, he was small stuff compared to BHO!

For those who aren't all that excited about McCain, he's all we have this time around. Sounding better to you now? He should!!!

And for those who are either not voting, or voting for Barr or whomever, you'll be voting for Obama!

THINK ABOUT IT!

Sadem Heusain thought he was..
Nebuchadnezzar too!

Sounds like Something that Lucifer told Eve.

(Old Testament | Genesis 3:4 - 5)
4 "And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:"
5 "For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil."

When Christ comes the wicked like stubble burn at the presence of his coming. It is curious how desperate people believe almost anything to escape responsibility because of fear and ignorance of the truth. Only obedience to the truth can make us free, not a storyteller or an illusionist.

Obama is man, not the Son of God. The very suggestion is contrary to Christ’s own prophecies. He is a soothsayer and as such is only a false prophet, and may just create many wonders with smoke a mirrors, or electronic devices, even lights and images in the sky. These techniques used since the Second World War to create mass illusions of military might back then. “The suggestion of a light coming through a window, being a common occurrence is a hypnotic suggestion used by, witches, wizards and masters of illusion.

God reigns still, but many are fooled because they lack the spirit or gift of the Holy Ghost to discern the truth. You should learn what Christ said about His coming, then to seek understanding in prayer as you Study. “Seek and ye shall find, ask and ye shall receive, knock and it shall be opened up unto you.” Thus, ye shall learn of the Christ the true Messiah and not be confounded or deceived for the spirit shall manifest the truth of it unto you. If ye do it with a pure heart and real intent, the Holly Ghost will manifest the truth of all things. Amen.

Who said
if your not a liberal when you're young, you don't have a heart, and if you're not a conservative when you get older, you don't have a brain?

Seems like the brainless MTV crowd, and ex-hippies who smoked their brains out, might dominate the poles this time. All feelings, no brains. Sounds like the typical democrat.

Obama as The Anti-Christ
To Anne and Marcmat:

When the doctors examined Mr. Obama for his recent physical, did they find "666" on his body? Would they be allowed to reveal it if they had?

Waiting for the walk on water thing...
Messiah Sham-assiah...need we say more?

MRCMRC
Proofreading may be a lost art, but it's worth the couple of minutes it takes.

People might actually be able to understand what you're trying to say.

Obama's no antiChrist
He is a type of inadvertant emissary/test balloon riding a crest of self-importance. The antiChrist will make Obama and his Marxism look like child's play.

Hmmm
Matthew 24:15 - When ye, therefore, see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Deniel the prophet, stand in the holy place...

Maybe God is sharing his humor: Obama-Nation ?

MRC
Thanks for mocking McCain for the injuries he endured for five years at the hand of communists who went on to kill 2-4 million S. Vietnamese and 2 million Cambodians after the fall of Saigon.

Thanks for sharing your compassionate view of a man who has given his entire life to military and public service and hasn't turned around and denounced a church he gave 20 years of his life to or just abandoned friends of a quarter century like his own pastor because he is now politically inconvenient.

Obama is a liar, fraud, racist, and betrayer.

He wouldn't wear a flag pin because it meant false patriotism, but he wears on now. Is it because of his false patriotism?

He claims to be a uniter who will talk with anyone, but he was afraid to debate Hillary after PA.

He knows nothing of the military and speaks of an immediate withdrawal from Iraq, but he only visited there once, sends people to tell the Pentagon that he doesn't mean what he says, and thinks he can be commander in chief.

Lincoln said you could fool the people some of the time. Obama has fooled multi-millions entirely.

Let's hope their drugs wear off and the scales fall from their eyes or Obama will be telling you when you can drive, what you can eat, and whether you can heat/cool your house (the latter is aomething Al Gore aspires to). SEE HaMation--OBAMA ON YOUR SHOULDER.

Dems. just want to control every aspect of your life, except sex, which they think should be publicly evident at all times the better to make more people infected with venereal diseases that prevent fertility and thereby save the world for insects and vermin.

The d

PT
THe anti-christ does not appear out of thin air. He is a regular human being that rises to power. Signs are displayed because of demonic power which deceives many. There is a period of 7 years. 3 and 1/2 years are in peace and 3 1/2 in tribulation. He sets a statue of himself up to be worshiped in the temple and begins persecuting anyone that will not bow down to him. A mark is recieved for worshipping that is necessary for buying and selling. Anyone recieving this mark is doomed to eternal punishment in the next life. Revelations 12-14.The NASB version of the Bible is a word for word translation.

I think Obama has deluded himself.

Mr. Goldberg
Fabulous column today! I do remember the column about Gore being an alien. The title alone was worth the new keyboard....definitely Pulitzer prize material!

As for Mr. Obama, it looks like he's a mixture of New Age and Scientology. After all, this "new level of consciousness" also come with a big price.

the worst part is..
BHO believes this stuff himself!

Walk On Water
Michelle and the chosen one, BO, have both been endowed with mystical forces that enable them to be participating members in a rabidly racist church and now claim their lives are all about unity of the races?

In "Various Attitudes of Black Princeton Alumni", Michell's Princeton thesis, she was outraged when she found that Black Princeton alumni became more attached and interested in the white community as they spent more time with whites. She clearly saw these Blacks as sellouts to the "Black community." This is the person who wants to represent all Americans as first lady. Someone who can't spend to much time around whites because she might lose touch with her Black roots.


She and Barack spent over twenty years swimming in the cesspool of racist bigotry that is Trinity UCC and both came out smelling like roses without a whiff a racism in their character. Yes indeed BO is a superior being with unlimited mystical powers.

Oh brother...
This is absolutely ridiculous. It's no wonder the church has lost it's influence in our culture. The simple fact that so many people claim the name of God and then spew out these awful apologetics is all the evidence necessary to demonstrate the dismal state of the visible church.

There is no rapture of the church. There is no such thing as 'The' anti-christ. (I John 2)

I can assure you Barack H. Obama is no savior. He is nothing but a race-baiting, class-envy pandering-politician with a marxist political worldview. He is a sinful creature just like you, me and all men before and after.

Worse yet, very few people will do anything about his, theirs or any other government usurpations. Instead, like many before them, they will be smashed by their representative, democratically elected, government; labeled scofflaws, extremists or terrorists on some 'news' program and polls will show most people like it when their government promises to feed their insatiable coveteousness by stealing from, murdering and oppressing their neighbor, all while turning a blind eye and just waitin' on the rapture. How convenient.

Lighten up!
I'm not surprised by the fact that there are conservatives who really obsess about who might be the Antichrist. I grew up in this especially bizarre faith tradition, so I recall hearing everyone from John Kennedy to whoever happened to be Pope at the moment, and always the secretary-general of the UN identified by some radio preacher or other as the Antichrist. Of course, somebody has to be, for religious conservatives, so I guess Obama is as likely as, say, Bill Clinton or Adam Sandler.

As for Gore as an alien. No doubt there. I think he even claimed credit for the Khitomer Accords that (temporarily) stabilized relations between the United Federation of Planets, the Klingon Empire, and the Romulan Empire. Then there was the later Khitomer treaty that banned the use of subspace weapons, but I'm not sure whether Gore played a role in that one.

Hate to have to tell you, Doctorfixit...
but you're a dangerous un-American nutjob.

Doctorfixit: "I hope Obama delivers us to our 2nd Civil War, where he and his liberal fascists will be obliterated..."

PW: Doctorfixit, fix thyself.

Gestell lol at Gore the alien
He may be a alien but he sure seems to love the food on this planet. Save the food supply put Gore on a diet! He alone might be the reason corn is in such short supply!

The problem
is so many of his followers are among the indoctrinated, the ones not taught to think critically, the results of 40 years of educational abuse. They hear the pretty words and swoon, not having the ability to digest the meaning of the words.
Do they ask what remaking this great nation means? Why it needs remaking? Who says we need it, what book did they read to come to that conclusion and who wrote that book? Are any
Americans like me, insulted by this smarmy
egotist, saying the America I grew up in and learned the unrevised history of this Founding;
needs REMAKING in the image of the son of a kenyan absentee father and a marxist white mama?
Raised by marxist granma and pappy (who deserve to be under said bus, all good marxists should
be under the bus), and mentored by a marxist card carrying member of the communist party.
I am livid at that insult to our forebearers,
the legal immigrants like my grandparents who came here to make a better life for their family. Who's sons fought fascism in W W 2,
grandsons communism in Korea and the cold war,
great grandsons the Gulf War, and gr gr grandsons Iraq. We don't NEEd not stinkin remaking in Obama's image, we need a return to the traditions and judeo christian heritage these elected fools have sold for 30 pieces of silver.

Whoops
fingers got ahead of brain, I meant Vietnam not Korea

That was Awesome!

Tea Party Location: WI
Reply # 2
Date: Jun 6, 2008 - 11:30 AM EST
The problem
is so many of his followers are among the indoctrinated, the ones not taught to think critically, the results of 40 years of educational abuse. They hear the pretty words and swoon, not having the ability to digest the meaning of the words.
Do they ask what remaking this great nation means? Why it needs remaking? Who says we need it, what book did they read to come to that conclusion and who wrote that book? Are any
Americans like me, insulted by this smarmy
egotist, saying the America I grew up in and learned the unrevised history of this Founding;
needs REMAKING in the image of the son of a kenyan absentee father and a marxist white mama?
Raised by marxist granma and pappy (who deserve to be under said bus, all good marxists should
be under the bus), and mentored by a marxist card carrying member of the communist party.
I am livid at that insult to our forebearers,
the legal immigrants like my grandparents who came here to make a better life for their family. Who's sons fought fascism in W W 2,
grandsons communism in Korea and the cold war,
great grandsons the Gulf War, and gr gr grandsons Iraq. We don't NEEd not stinkin remaking in Obama's image, we need a return to the traditions and judeo christian heritage these elected fools have sold for 30 pieces of silver.

Jonah,You Coulda Been A Contenda !!!!
I wonder if Gore and the New Messiah were acquainted in the Other World? They could have been half-bro's,you know.

Barack Hussein Obama is a figment of our imagination.He is not real.Like Starman. Where did he really come from? Who brought him here?Has he seen the 72 virgins the terrorist martyrs are promised?

No,he is not a Messiah.He is a product of some group who saw he could speak like Martin Luther King,Jr., and we all know how he was worshipped.

These people,whoever they are knew he could be used to speed up their slide toward socialism. He cannot be criticised because he is black. He is no more black than he is white. But white is not sacred and off-limits.


He has been briefed on what to say and how to say it. He is above criticism,so when he steps in it,the left covers for him. Every few years,we need a meltdown,like an alcoholic.We hit bottom and then like the phoenix,we will rise above it all.This too shall pass.


It speaks volumes about TH...
uber right-wingers that a presidential race must be distorted and packaged as a battle of good and evil.

It can't be about two decent politicians with widely differing views.

No, the right-wingers must "hold their noses" and vote for "McAmnesty" in order to prevent the destruction of America and the free world by the godless Muslim commie Hussein Obama.

Obama can't be viewed as a worthy adversary, he must be cast as the enemy with a messiah complex.

His supporters aren't just well-meaning folks with whom you disagree, they are brainwashed or ignorant or spellbound lackies.

Do any of you people have any idea of just how far out there you are?

And here I thought Lucian Goldberg's worse offense was spawning Linda Tripp on the nation.

Farmer's Wife writes: "the worst part is

BHO believes this stuff himself!"

And the only thing worse than that is that there are a LOT of people who not only believe BHO, but they're going to VOTE for him too.


Hop says...
"The problem is so many of his followers are among the indoctrinated, the ones not taught to think critically, the results of 40 years of educational abuse.

PW: I don't think critical thinking means what you apparently think it means.

What none of you folks seem to get is that other people don't have to be stupid in order to disagree with you.

Coming to your point of view has precious little to do with IQ points or the quality of your education.

And if any of you self-proclaimed geniuses were as smart as you think you are you'd know that.


Geek45
Greetings-

I'm inclined to believe that Senator Obama's physicians would be precluded from disclosing publicly any marks on his body without his consent.

And to those of you who see fit to characterize myself and others as religious "nut-jobs" and whatnot, I proudly plead guilty to being a religious deep-thinker. Quite frankly, on any number of days, such contemplation is often what keeps me going, and I am certainly not alone.

Finally, I have yet to receive a direct reply to my previous post #29 pertaining to Obama's lack of judgment in the character realm. The silence is quite telling in my view.

God Bless one and all.




PeeWee the Uber-Idiot! Wondered just

how long it would take before PeeWee checked in.

So far, we've not seen one meaningful or intelligent comment from him... and today is no different.

I think it's safe to just put PeeWee on the list of Soreass trollies to ignore!



Mindless Morons
I can't help but laugh out loud listening to you conservative marching morons. I mean all of you, who marched behind the village idiot from Crawford, who followed him through every twist and turn of his destructive effort against our rights as citizens of this country.You talk about Bush delusion syndrome, but you are the ones who are still suffering from it.
Of course, now you don't are mention his nmae. Like Peter, you deny him. "Who, me? I am a conservative, I don't know thw man....".

Tea Party
wrote: "Do they ask what remaking this great nation means? Why it needs remaking? Who says we need it, what book did they read to come to that conclusion and who wrote that book?"
----

Start with Howard Zinn's "A People's History of the United States: 1492-Present" Enroll in any college and take courses in "Critical Theory" and "Women's Studies." Then go to law school and become a politician. Maybe you could even become a Constitutional Law Professor and still believe that as a Supreme Court Justice: "We need somebody who's got the heart, the empathy, to recognize what it's like to be a young teenage mom. The empathy to understand what it's like to be poor, or African-American, or gay, or disabled, or old. And that's the criteria by which I'm going to be selecting my judges."

Gotta luv good vs evil
Weary Phite claims the angels on the Dem side just want to debate while the right just wants to call names.

Weary how do you explain Howie Dean's comment that "Democrats unlike Republicans don't want to see kids go to bed hungry at night!" Really elevates the debate by calling your opponents a baby killers to start things off. Those lovable Dems would never stoop to name calling unless they thought there was just one more vote in it.

AlphaOmega: Yet another Uber Idiot!

It's been pretty obvious just who the Soreass trollies are, and why they're here on TH.

NONE are worth the time nor energy since none have posted anything intelligent...


What say we simply ignore them all??

PW
Take a gander at AlphaOmega's latest post.

Think he should take your advise? Or are his silly little insults ok with you?

Here's a new challenge for you since explaining why you think Obama is qualified to be president proved too difficult (understandably so....):

Give AlphaOmega an earful like:
"What none of you folks seem to get is that other people don't have to be stupid in order to disagree with you."

Or:
"Coming to your point of view has precious little to do with IQ points or the quality of your education."

Let's see how critical you are when it comes to a fellow Bush-Hater....

Alpha Omega
Doesn't it amaze you that the 'village idiot' managed to manipulate almost the entire left-leaning popular press, 70% of Congress, and the vast majority of Americans into an 'illegal, immoral war' in Iraq? Yet this same idiot, who give conservatives "Their marching orders" was completely stopped by conservatives on comprehensive immigration reform and was stopped by everyone on his attempts to reform Social Security. So, like a typical far lefty, all your childish claims can be refuted in about ten seconds with simple facts or by pointing out your logical inconsistencies. I'm sure some of your fellow numbskulls are waiting for you back at the Huffington Post. Enjoy.

Messiah Template
When I heard Obama's remarks about jobs for the jobless, etc.... I thought he might be using Luke 4:18-19 as a Messiah-Template:

“The Spirit of the LORD is upon Me,
Because He has anointed Me
To preach the gospel to the poor;
He has sent Me to heal the brokenhearted,[j]
To proclaim liberty to the captives
And recovery of sight to the blind,
To set at liberty those who are oppressed;
To proclaim the acceptable year of the LORD.”

His speech seemed to have the same cadence as this Scripture passage.

Obama is frightening if he thinks he can "heal the planet."

@PW
Actually, coming to the conservative PoV does have a great deal to do with education. Not the content, perhaps, so much as the structure. Properly, education isn't the enforced absorption of facts, so much as the proper training in the way to interpret those facts.

In general, the version of training I see most commonly associated with liberals is 'See that [doctor/scientist/politician]? He knows more than you about the topic, so you are better off just accepting whatever he says.'

The conservative version always seems to boil down to the Missouri rejoinder. "Don't just say something is so and expect me to take it. Provide evidence. Show me."

If I am wrong in this, as you no doubt believe I am, then I offer that as my challenge to you as well. Don't just claim I should believe what you, or Monsieur Obama, says. Provide evidence to back up your statements.

Show me.

@Parker
May I ask, given your earlier statements, what your interpretation of 1 Corinthians 15:51 is, please?

As for the AntiChrist references, the title as used is the one popular culture has ascribed to the Beast from the Sea (Revelations 13). You are correct in that the term is not, in itself, ascribed to this individual in the scriptures - but can you think of any individual who more exemplifies the spirit of antichrist mentioned by John?

Also....
I love how the article is about Obama, yet some people just can't stop themselves from letting their BDS out.

Go find another thread that actually talks about Bush and bash him there where it's relevant....

jeez....obsess much??

Ender
"but can you think of any individual who more exemplifies the spirit of antichrist mentioned by John?"

The owner of the Dallas Cowboys...Jerry Jones...

Excellent article!
And, as always, quite amusing repartee form the visiting trolls! Another example of TH at its best, and the trolls at their worst!

Jonah
Well his head simply has to swell in order to balance out those big ears!

Let's hope his hubris is not the downfall of America.

And BHO refers to.. "MY White House"

Has no one else picked up on that arrogance and hubris?

OUR White House never did, and never will "belong" to any pres. (although Slick willie kink of assumed it was his and he could behave like a typical reprobate!)

One need not "read anything into" BHO's statements, nor those of the Mrs., to hear what BHO is really saying. BHO has been telling us all along EXACTLY what his intentions are.

The problem is, some limited people aren't hearing what he's been saying all along...

WHat is this guy up to?
Who and how many has George Soros bought and paid for?

Allow me to answer ...
my own question:

"Do any of you people have any idea of just how far out there you are?"

PW: No. Obviously not.

Speaking of Cults......
And now let's talk about the way Republican presidiental candidates earnestly sought to wrap themselves in the mantle of Saint Ronnie.

Lay off my wife..."But I also think

these folks should lay off my wife," he told "GMA" as his wife chuckled beside him."

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Vote2008/story?id=4881883

"But I do want to say this to the GOP. If they think that they're going to try to make Michelle an issue in this campaign, they should be careful. Because that I find unacceptable," he said.

How cute.. "... as his wife chuckled beside him."

NOT so cute, "... they should BE CAREFUL. Because that I find unacceptable,"

Sounds like this is just a "warning" of things to come should BHO be elected..

Who else will he warn... "BE CAREFUL" if he's displeased?? You? Me? Probably!




Hank Scorpio
I've been too busy to post as often as I used to, but I still manage to read the threads.

I just wanted to say, I think you're posts are great! They're witty, always correct, and definitely belittling to the person you are targeting. I enjoy it very much!

Keep it up,Tiger!

Signed,

Shells, the Typical White Person

Obama has promised

to eliminate the "exceptionalism" that underlies the American experiment. If you want that to happen, Obama is your man.

I think Obama is completely unfamiliar with the concept of American "exceptionalism" except as a concept that conveys arrogance rather than the freedom that truly underlies American "exceptionalism". The rights of the individual are the basis of American "exceptionalism". Obama believes in collectivism. Collectivism is about as far from the spirit that founded America as you can get.

johninoregon: You have a problem? (#75)

THIS particular column and posts are about B. H. Obama...

Want to talk about Pres. Bush? Find an appropriate article... If you need help, (which apparently you do) get someone to find one for you.



PW,

do you think it is far out to disagree with Obama's plan to lower Americans' standard of living?

Do you think it is far out to resent Obama characterizing Americans who disagree with him as being too stupid to know their own best interests, or as being faithful to God because they are frustrated, or as being intent on maintaining their means of self-defense because they are frustrated by politics.

That is the Obama many of us see. Not to mention that Obama pals around with radicals who believe that the U.S.A. is the true villain in the world. He also attended for 20 years a church that primarily preaches black liberation theology. In fact, he converted to christianity in that church. So, it is black liberation theology that he believes in. Do you know the precepts of black liberation theology?

Shells
(insert Elvis impression here)

Thank you, thank you very much...

Man, Anne . . .
I'm somewhat new here . . . are you the resident "thread monitor"? It seems like all you do is call people names and insult their intelligence . . .

PW
You answer your own question, but you also answered mine.

You have no idea what qualifies Obama to lead our country, you just do what Oprah tells you to do. You are blinded by your hatred of Bush to the point that you throw your allegience to anyone with a D next to their name without a clue of what their plan is. (not that Obama knows what his plan is either, mind you).

You think it's wrong for conservatives to label people that disagree withem as "stupid" but are just tickled pink when a leftie wacko like AlphaOmega engages in the same behavior.

When someone like eddie too details what it is about Obama that disturbs people, he must be "out there", right?

Your typical non-answer, answers plenty, thank you for clearing things up about you.

Welcome aboard, gee :-)
.

He has had his Transfiguration, too
As recorded by New York Magazine last year:
http://www.johnlocke.org/lockerroom/lockerroom.html?id=1595 0

Hank
"The owner of the Dallas Cowboys...Jerry Jones..."

Well said!

I'm not so concerned about BHO's arrogance as I am about his apparent socialist attitudes . . . I'd vote for an arrogant person right now if he/she had a good plan to protect our borders, cut the size of government and defend us against our enemies . . .


Is Barack Obama the Messiah?
More likely the antichrist.

The Bible declares that Satan comes as an angel of light. Only those not familiar with the truth get taken in.

gee
I couldn't agree more. I could care less about attitude as long as the plan makes sense.

Right now I have no idea how Obama thinks he's going to pay for healthcare for everyone without raising taxes.

I don't know how he thinks he's going to defend us from our enemies by leaving Iraq now.

I haven't heard a thing about what he plans to do regarding our borders (granted he may have outined something but I haven't seen it)

And cutting the size of government is never on the democrat agenda so that's out the window.

Aslo, doesn't Jerry Jones look like Skeletor??

The Left’s messiah…


Jonah, we know that you are having some fun by mocking Obama and his supporters’ messianic visions of him; fun that we can all enjoy.

To bring us back from the misconceptions of Messiah and His coming consider Isaiah 53…

‘He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not’ [Isaiah 53:3]


Men do not want to hear truth. They persecute and crucify the truth teller. Now we know that Obama is no truth teller because the Left praises him, including the apostate church and the lawless state. In this respect he is an anti-Christ of our times.

Ender...
First let me suggest we agree to find a better forum for privately discussing these matters.

In the meantime,

In response to your question regarding 1 Cor. 15:51, I believe the entire context of the chapter beginning in verse 1 through the end at verse 58 centers on the subject of the resurrection of Christ and eventually our own. The resurrection, its meaning, its purpose, its significance, and is the very essence of our faith in the work of Christ. The resurrection of Christ and how this applies to our lives is clearly the subject. Paul is very specific, that the resurrection is the center of our faith, our hope and our trust in Christ and His Fathers redemptive plan.

It has nothing to do with the notion of a 'rapture' of the visible church or its individual members. Unless, of course, you wish to ignore verses 1-50 and 52-58. I am afraid that just isolating and plucking verse 51 from all the rest, would be the product of very poor hermeneutics and pathetic exegesis.

Perry White
Don't come crying to me when BHO decides to confiscate part of your weekly pay check and hand it over to blacks as reparations for slavery.

Then later, you better hope to he-- you don't need surgery after he implements National Health Care. You will probably have to wait in line for six months the way they do in Europe.

Another Biblical reference
Since Biblical references seem to be the flavor in the comments on this thread, let me add my contribution to this mix.

A lot of Obama's supporters and enthusiasts are speaking of him in spiritual terms and practically elevating him to divine stature, but allow me to suggest the Biblical model I think the passage of time will prove he more truly represents: Theudas and Judas the Galilean (Acts 4:35-38). Both men, as Gamaliel reminded the Sanhedrin, were people who created a stir and drew a following - only to see their lives cut short and their following scattered. I'm not saying that Obama will wind up dead as a result of his "crusade", merely that, as Gamaliel told the Sanhedrin, if something is of man, it will come to nothing - as clearly the movements Theudas and Judas inspired came to be. For now, Obama is all the rage, but as time goes by, I expect the glow around him to start fading, and soon enough to be gone altogether, and then everyone will see him for what he really is: just another false prophet. Obama won't be able to continue to hide what he really is, and soon he'll fall back to earth, hard.

Sorry, Hank....
In Perry White's world, it is perfectly acceptable for someone like AlphaOmega to post such name-calling. That's what the left calls "freedom of speech".

It's when a conservative does it that it is called "hate speech". I guess they got used to the conservatives taking the insults lying down.

I think that's what the left means by "tolerance".

Parker
"hermeneutics and pathetic exegesis."

Didn't they play for the Blue Jays??

Hank...
You know, I think you're right. Or was it the Expos?

formerly known as gee
"Man, Anne . . .
I'm somewhat new here . . . are you the resident "thread monitor"? It seems like all you do is call people names and insult their intelligence."

PW: That's Anne, alright. You've got her pegged.

HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
I stand corrected Parker, it was the Expos...

Hank and Parker
They played for the L'Astros.....

PeeWee & gee: I refer you to YLG's

post... (#94)

"In Perry White's world, it is perfectly acceptable for someone like AlphaOmega to post such name-calling. That's what the left calls 'freedom of speech'".

"It's when a conservative does it that it is called "hate speech". I guess they got used to the conservatives taking the insults lying down."

Hank_Scorpio...
"Right now I have no idea how Obama thinks he's going to pay for healthcare for everyone without raising taxes."

PW: Don't worry. Bush has been running his $12 billion per month vanity war without raising taxes.

Of course that's part of the reason why your dollars are worth about half what they were when he was elected...but at least he didn't raise taxes, right?

Obama
He isn't the anti-christ (who will come out of the resurrected Roman Empire), but he is what he will be like.

The ability to delude. The godless buy it.

This new vision is the new world order/one world gov, which will set the stage for the anti-christ. Obama is totally onboard. Problem is McCain is too. I don't think McCain hates our country though.

According to Brezinzski., "Obama recognizes that the challenge is a new face, a new sense of direction, a new definition of America's role in the world".

In other words the might of America must be broken so that we are reduced to being just another province in the "new world order".

Wake up Christians. Righteousness exalts a nation. Judgment is coming.




We have all eternity to celebrate our victories, but only a few hours before sunset to win them.
Amy Carmichael



the signs
Israel becoming a nation was the super sign.

Bible predicts there will be one world gov and it is close. I expect the next president whoever wins to preside over the end of our nation as we know it and the creation of the NAU. I believe when we go down we will take the world with us.


“The ten horns of the beast are ten kings who have not yet risen to power. They will be appointed to their kingdoms for one brief moment to reign with the beast. They will all agree to give him their power and authority. Together they will go to war against the Lamb, but the Lamb will defeat them because he is Lord of all lords and King of all kings. And his called and chosen and faithful ones will be with him.” Rev 17 12-14

(EU, NAU, SAU, etc.)


http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId= 65583

"Union of South American Nations faces fracture"

For now.

Everything is moving inexorably towards an end that has already been predicted.

PW
"Don't worry. Bush has been running his $12 billion per month vanity war without raising taxes.

Of course that's part of the reason why your dollars are worth about half what they were when he was elected...but at least he didn't raise taxes, right?"

I asked you about Obama, and once again your BDS is raging all over the place like a porno money shot...

Try and focus for a minute.

WHAT HAS OBAMA DONE TO MAKE YOU BELIEVE HE IS QUALIFIED TO LEAD???

If your answer involves any variation of this current administration you will have confirmed what everyone already knows about you. That you have no idea why Obama should be president other than that D next to his name, which is the dumbest way to vote...

Poor Liberal Trolls
If you don't want to be insulted,go where you are wanted.It is NOT here.None of you libs can have a debate about The Obama Man.It invariably will turn to bush.You have BDS on the brain.

As far as I am concerned,the abuse has not even started. You libs do nothing but insult,then whine and cry when it is turned back on you.Get used to it.You ain't seen nothing yet!

Perry White
Hmmm.....

"Invective and name-calling ARE the dialects of the TH site."

"He can hardly be faulted for addressing the natives in their own language."

REALLY???

Funny, but in the few minutes I lasted at the democraticunderground.com site, the language there made TH look like preschool.

Once again, you use a double standard, excusing him for his post, while deriding us for not rising to a better level; in essence, giving the libs a pass. If you find the language here so objectionable, be my guest, and find another site more suitable to your sensitive eyes. I highly recommend dailyKos. Your level of derision for Mr. Bush is quite welcome there.

PW
"Maybe Alpha Omega is merely observing local customs, you know, "When in Rome..."

Just what I thought, you're not only intellectually dishonest, you're a flaming hypocrite.

How long have you had that wide yellow streak running down your back???

Anne and others
I hope I didn't give the impression that I excuse liberals and their name-calling. Frankly, I try not to interact with them. The power of conservative ideas usually doesn't need any added insults to "show up" the other side.

gee
But sometimes it's just fun...

Apollo
"Oddly enough, the man who killed Moscone had the name Dan White."

Now I KNOW he played for the Cowboys, so he must be guilty...

Almost Convinced...Nice Try!
I might have been convinced Barack Hussein was the Messiah, after listening to his speech to the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, Wednesday.

"Jerusalem will remain the capital of Israel," he pontificated to the 7,000-plus attendees to a standing ovation,"and it must remain undivided."

But,alas, The Jerusalem Post reports today, that an Obama advisor clarified the would-be Messiah's hyperbole, and it seems it was just more hot air from another pandering politician.

Oh well...Maybe he will rise on the third day!

perry wimp
if you're so troubled by TH why waste your precious time coming here.

Oh wait I forgot, aren't you another paid leftist shill unable to find real work but willing to act as a buttboy for the moveon and code pink crowd.

But look at it from out point of view. We find you dull, boring, pretenscious and lacking all imagination. As much as you dislike us you can't begin to fathom the depth of disgust your idocy brings to our side. If you could contribute anything to this discussion it would be welcome. But never ending whining and tired talking points only prove your inability to understand the issues.

Apollo Speaks
Just so you know the niece of Dan White is the Chief of SF Fire Department and is aiming to run for Mayor of SF when Newsom terms out. SF Fire Chief and Chief of SFPD are political appointments.

Chicago is not the only city in America with inbred corrupt politics.

YLG nailed it!
The hypocrisy of the left knows no bounds. They insult, including from the halls of Congress and complete with the complicity of the media then cry when the insults get thrown back in their faces. Hence the reason they despise Ann Coulter and Michelle Malkin so much. They pick up the mud they sling and sling it right on to their white pants. Cry me a river libs! If I hadn't for years experienced first hand your hatred and hypocrisy I might have some sympathy but that is simply not the case. Practice what you preach, then maybe you shall find what you seek. CLEAN UP YOUR OWN BACKYARD!!

Perry White
If you want to play with the big kids then grow up.

Patrick Henry would say
give me LIBERTY or give me death.

@Parker
Assuming you wish to continue the discussion, do you have a preferred venue?

A marketing campaign
Mr. Goldberg:

First, I'm enjoying your new book, "Liberal Fascism," and highly recommend it to others.

Sen. Obama is a masterful orator who merely recycles modern liberalism's smug assumptions about everything from high taxes to partial birth abortion.

The reason it's resonating is that many Americans have a limited understanding of our political and civic history and an attention span that is best measured in nanoseconds.

But, there are lots of conservative Democrats who aren't buying what he's selling, not to mention Independents, so McCain has a solid chance.

Best,

Phil Mella
http://www.clearcommentary.com

BO the Messiah
There'll be more hyperbolic rhetoric to come. The Telegraph (UK) interviewed JFK's speech writer (Ted Sorenson) who praised Obama's speech writer because (sink me!) he's a protege of Sorenson. And Sorenson of course helped camouflage many of JFK's greatest blunders, including the Cuban Missile Crisis. Finally, in 1989, Sorenson admitted lying.

The Camelot of the 60s = The Camerot of the 2000s.

best, Kay B. Day
The US Report

ClearCommentary.com
Rush Limbaugh played Obama's victory speech today.He played exerpts of a Mario Cuomo speech along with Obama's.The words were almost identical.Names and places had changed.

He clearly copied Cuomo's speech.If McCain or anyone else had done that,it would be big news.As it is,it will not even be reported by the Mainstream Media.The hypocrisy is glaring.

cactus lover asks...
"if you're so troubled by TH why waste your precious time coming here."

PW: Anthropological curiosity, really.

More unusual coincidences
Bobby Kennedy and Ronald Reagan both died on June 5th.

Coincidence?

Oops
Out by one day. Silly me.

Or did "they" deliberately make it one day off to avoid detection?

He Shall Rise Above Us
Seems to me Obama's head is getting bigger and bigger as his opinion of himself continues to grow. If this keeps up, that vacuous cranium of his will displace enough air to the point that he will become airborne and start floating toward the starry heavens.

Hopefully he'll stay up there. A head that big could block enough of the sun's rays to make a serious dent in global warming.

KayDay writes: "more hyperbolic rhetoric

to come."

No doubt there's much more, and for some reason we'll all be surprised...

Just now I'm trying to find the name of the guy who advised Bill Clinton to pardon Mark Rich...

Why? Because apparently BHO has contacted this guy.

Somehow, BHO can't help but surround himself with pretty shady and questionable people.

perry wimp
a pitiful excuse by someone who thinks he is both more clever and intelligent than he has yet to demonstrate.

Other than mouthing the usual talking points it seems all you have demonstrated is that you are a running joke for all those posting a conserv point of view.

But how typical of the left. Unable to contribute to the discussion but seemingly content to annoy others. But then again to be put in the company of your contemporaries such as nellie, king lib, left angle, dogg, impeach bush amongst others must give comfort there are others who share your lack of intelligence and ability to make a coherent argument.

My guess is that like the others in calif sharing your world view you hailed the recent supreme courst decision concerning the confused to be allowed to marry and when it comes up as a ballot issue you will vote to keep the courst mandated change. But that is the way of the left, when you can't win at the polling station you turn to the courts to overturn the will of the voters

Obama's head
Barako's head gets bigger, and we learn more about him every day.Wake up people, is this a man we want to lead our great country?

anne
the name you seek is eric holder

PeeWee writes: "Anthropological
curiosity really."

With all due respect, PeeWee, (which isn't much!) I suggest that it's more "Neanderthal curiosity" instead of Anthropological curiosity.


Hank_Scorpio...
"WHAT HAS OBAMA DONE TO MAKE YOU BELIEVE HE IS QUALIFIED TO LEAD???"

PW: It seems to me it took some special management talent to plan and deploy a strategy capable of beating the Clinton machine for the nomination.

He's raised three times as much money as McCain. That's got to be a useful skill.

He's an inspiring speaker. It would be nice to have that in the White House again.

I've read his book and find him knowledgable on a broad range of issues.

For a grocery list of accomplishments in the U.S. and Illinois senates:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az =view_all&address=132x4678548

Knock yourself out.




cactus fluffer, before trailing off
into complete gibberish said: "perry wimp..Other than mouthing the usual talking points it seems all you have demonstrated is that you are a running joke for all those posting a conserv point of view."

PW: the pathology is palpable.

Anne writes....
"With all due respect, PeeWee, (which isn't much!) I suggest that it's more "Neanderthal curiosity" instead of Anthropological curiosity."

PW: I wouldn't argue that a fascination with Neanderthals partially explains my anthropological interest in TH posters.

A little learning is a dangerous thing, Anne.

Finally, the Savior
Can Obama save his ranting friends and convert them into loving human beings? This should be his first public test. If he succeeds then we will believe in...

Anne writes....
"With all due respect, PeeWee, (which isn't much!) I suggest that it's more "Neanderthal curiosity" instead of Anthropological curiosity.

PW: Now that you mention it, a fascination with neanderthals does help explain my anthropological interest in TH posters.

But you interest me because it's also fun to study petty authoritarian demagogues.

Awe PeeWee, proved my point!

Thanks! :-)

There's a village somewhere that's lost its idiot... Want me to call and tell them you're here?

Perhaps they'll come and get you. Or not!

Messiah, AntiChrist or Empty Vase?
On Google the question; is Obama the antichrist returned 826,000 hits!

Apparently there is a lot more concerns about him being the Anti-Christ than being the Messiah.

To me he is neither. He simply is an empty vase where the wide eyed naïve Libs pour their socialist utopian dreams. The problem is that every so often such Dimwits end up in power and the world pays the price.


perry wimp
you display such dazzling wit. I guess you are a real hit with all the kiddies while you are out riding your skateboard.

But alas you still come up short on impresssing any one.

Didn't nellie sing your praises yesterday. But I guess that being honored by the same person who claims america got what it deserved on 9/11 shows who your arguments appeal to.

Who is Obama?
The Russian saying goes: Tell me who your friends are and I'll tell you who you are. To all liberal Obama supporters: can you name one decent person who is a true Obama's friend. So far we have seen a parade of abominable creatures spitting venom at America and Americans. Even if we admit that USA was not always up to the high standards, what about African despots and mass murderers like Idi Amin, Robert Mugabe, Muammar Gadaffi, Omar Hassan El Bashir? Can you demonstrate at least one video bashing those past and current African despots who murdered thousands of innocent Africans?
Or show us Barack the Senator taking the right side in the fight between right and wrong or at least telling his venomous wife to shut the heck up for a change?


Obama -> Cult
Obama in his self assumed role as 'messiah' and the 'Obamaites' who dutifully worship him all exhibit the properties of a cult.

Obamaites shout I love you and Obama shouts back, I love you too.

Obamaites faint in his prescence 'slain in the spirit' of the prophetic words he espouses.

Obamaites have sensual experiences - 'shivers' in their extremities and 'orgasmic' feelings in his prescence.

Obamaites chant until exhaustion "Yes We Can" and have cultic visions of 'Hope' and 'Change'.

One wonders when Obama will reveal the 'Mother Wheel' of Farrakhan and all the 'little wheels'.

WOW!!

It's time to get a new buzz word
Look, if that buzz word hasn't worked to help get Hillary the nomination, it won't work now. Repeated and worn out buzz words do nothing but make the attacker look desperate and searching for something that will stick to Obama. It's time to wipe away the tears and mend broken hearts because Hillary didn't win the nomination. It took Hillary forever to accept reality, it seems it's going to take her supporters even longer.

"Obamessiah" is a hand puppet..

Obama, the narcissist, may imagine that he has messianic gifts. He's been blessed with certain abilities, and more privileges. While he has smart, devious people telling him what to say & do... he obviously isn't nearly as smart as he's portrayed, and he certainly exhibits a lot of poor judgement, and bafoonish "gaffs"..

As for one of Obama's self-deceived handmaidens, Oprah.. At least, I give her credit for having left the Obama/Wright radical "G. D. AmeriKKKa" church, and it's hate-mongering Congregation some years ago.

I don't believe for a minute that The Obama's really left Wright's "church". So, he went through the motions after a radical Whitey, Wright-Impersonater happened to pollute the pulpit, again. Interestingly, Father Pfleger's rant included his suggestion to "Whitey"... give up your 401k's for "reparations".. right in line with arrogant Obama's stated policy that "he will right the wrongs of the past"..

Not surprising that word is that Jeremiah Wright has not Officially given up his position as Senior Pastor of TUCC, either..

Five more months of this election BS,,five months to expose BHO.


Perry White
You prove your idiocy with every post! I can't believe you used democratic underground as a reference to Hank. They make KOS and Huff and Puff look like pikers and are well known for their smear.

Review History
Similar things were said about Adolf Hitler. This is very scary.

Review History
Similar things were said about Adolf Hitler. This is very scary.

Unholy Trinity
Obama= the beast
Rev. Wright= the false prophet
Oprah= whatever

Islamica Magazine
"Muslims are one constituency Obama does not want to court. With a wink and a nod, Obama's Muslim supporters continue to work for a candidate who cannot afford to wink back at them. Given his perceived "closeness" to Islam, and the fact that he shares a name with a former Iraqi dictator, it could be strategic suicide for the Obama campaign to vocally acknowledge organized Muslim support."
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Is Obama a closet Muslim?

Michelle Obama thesis
"There is no doubt in my mind that as a member of the black community, I am obligated to this community and will utilize all of my present and future resources to benefit the black community first and foremost". Michelle Obama

Obama and Character
“...one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.”
-- Martin Luther King, Jr., August 28, 1963
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Obama Discards those close to him:

White Grandmother
Mentor Wright
Louis Farrakhan
William Ayers
Resko
Trinity Church of Christ

Anne
I remember watching the hearings about the pardons.I could not remember who actually asked Clinton to pardon Eich.

I just looked at a site which says,Clinton's lawyaer Jack Quinn,Dept.Atty.Eric Holder and even Israel's Ehud Barak,plus Denise Rich all asked for the pardon.


Is Obama an apostate?
"According to Islamic jurisprudence, children of a Muslim father – even an apparently nonpracticing one, such as Obama's father, and irrespective of the mother's faith – are automatically Muslims. Most Muslims around the world agree: A child of a Muslim father is a Muslim. Period."

"Should Obama become US commander in chief, there is a strong likelihood that Al Qaeda's media arm, As-Sahab, will exploit his background to argue that an apostate is leading the global war on terror (read: attacks against fellow Muslims). This perception would be leveraged to galvanize sympathizers into action." CSM



Rowly...I know.. Been looking for the

name of Clinton's advisor... who recommended Riches' pardon..

THIS is the guy who Bozo Hussein has contacted in the past day or so...


Has anybody noticed?
Has anybody noticed that Obama doesn't cast a shadow and that his image doesn't appear in a mirror when he walks past it? Just wondering.

Its The Economy Stupid
*
*
*___THE TELEPROMPTER MESSIAH

Goldberg
Something sickening about having a panderer of torture talking bible talk. Goldberg is the biggest liar on the web, folks.

Latest News...

THIS JUST IN :

EMT's in Scranton, PA, have just received a 911 call from a person named 'wobbie' :

hic, hic LMAO, hic, helllpp mee, im hal ann i jist fall offf my hic, hic barstoolll an broke ny typin han hic LMAO.

It is further reported that the EMT's were laughing so hard, they dropped the stretcher with 'wobbie' on it, back down the basement stairs, breaking 'wobbie's' non-typing hand, which was still greasy.


If only I were a Democrat...
What is that saying, something like God watches over children and fools.

BHO's followers really think this guy is going to fix everything that they think Bush broke.

Bush has been a big disappointment to me and to all true conservatives and the mess has indeed been made worse. Not because the Bush administration practiced conservatism but rather only a pale imitation of it. That is why so many people are ripe to be duped by the likes of BHO.

Really it matters not which candidate wins because even if McCain wins, it amounts to a Democrat win.

So if I vote for McCain maybe then I will loose my ability to think for myself, value the freedoms we have left and continue to take responsibility for my own actions. NOT!

Latest News...

THIS JUST IN :

EMT's in Scranton, PA, have just received a 911 call from a person named 'wobbie' :

hic, hic LMAO, hic, helllpp mee, im hal ann i jist fall offf my hic, hic barstoolll an broke ny typin han hic LMAO.

It is further reported that the EMT's were laughing so hard, they dropped the stretcher with 'wobbie' on it, back down the basement stairs, breaking 'wobbie's' non-typing hand, which was still greasy.


Farmer's Wife
Obama will be a step in the right direction, that's all. Goldberg likes to lie for some sick reason. 99% on liberals just want improvement and he's "messiah" baloney is really sacrilegious. One doesn't label, even if they are running for president, one as a "messiah."

Anne
Probably Bruce Lindsey.

Taft
Sorry guy, but that honor is actually your own.

W/O=

Goldberg on NPR

Jonah Goldberg: The benefit of Bush's compassionate conservatism [in 2000] was that it was majorly a marketing slogan...

Alex Chadwick: You mean you're worried Mike Huckabee might actually mean it?

Goldberg: Yes, that's what I'm terrified of.

Anne
This sounds like him...Former Mossad agent Avner Azulay,retired spy who worked for Marc Rich.

THE MESSIAH'S DISCIPLES
*
*****THE TELEPROMPTER MESSIAH'S DISCIPLES

___________TONY REZKO
___________REV. WRIGHT
___________LOUIS FARRAKHAN
___________BILL AYERS
___________BLACK LIBERATION MOVEMENT
___________OPRAH WINFREY
___________HAMAS
___________
___________
___________MICHELLE OBAMA
___________ANY OTHERS

ted
TONY REZKO- Gave Geaorge Bush a huge fundraiser.

REV. WRIGHT- Obama told him to take a hike.

LOUIS FARRAKHAN-Obama publically denounced all that this guy represents. More than I can say for Hannity and his pal Hal Turner.

BILL AYERS- Yes, obama goes to his house to get a job not knowing he should have had a police check run on the guy. Live and learn.

OPRAH WINFREY- She supports Obama but I haven't seen or heard her call him Messiah or God.

Hamas- Obama has rejected everything they satnd for and has had nothing to do with them. Now, AQ is openly supporting McCain-what the heck does that matter?


taft
*
___This is Chicago sweetie. Save your whining for your next girl scout meeting.

ted
Clever come back, saves one from looking like a dolt.

dolt
Well, keep practicing.

Hi, Retired Geek!!
I checked in and saw your posts- and agree as usual!

You know, I worked with a boy who has Aspberger's Syndrome who is now 21. He is brilliant, but has a tough time accessing emotions. However, he's all excited about Obama. I received an email from him to tell me that he cried at an Obama rally in Maryland. I asked him what he liked about Obama's positions and he told me that they didn't matter- Obama himself "is right" if he (the young man) could be "touched" by him. I encouraged him to look at Obama's record and the results where what O advocates is impelemented, but he is content to have cried. This is really very creepy.

ted
Seriously, all the bull about Obama comes up short. Why would you vote for McCain knowing the rw talking points about Obama are lies?

taft
*
Because I have children, whom I don't consider punishment and they need a future.

Perry White
Notice that Obama's Marxist ideas are not the focus of the conservative posts on this article.

Obama and his followers have put the concern on a whole different plane. When his wife says, America has lost it's soul and only Barack can restore it...(not an exact quote but close) - we're way beyond just politics and literally into transcendence.

I think liberals need to respond to these and other quotes Obama has made - how do you do it??? How can you justify this view of a political figure and political goals? Is this not a "cult of the personality" such as that in Germany in the 30's or the Soviet Union under Stalin?

The oceans will begin to slow??? Our planet will begin to heal??

I would like to see a defense of these statements. THIS is the issue.

Cult of the personality
In thinking about this phrase, used most commonly about the Stalinist era, I think this really fits what we are seeing here with Obama.

The application is not the same at this point, where Stalin used personal adulation of him to intimidate opposition through severe measures including imprisonment and execution. But the unwillingness to deal with issues - his inexperience, questionable "mentors" and marxist economic ideas and whacked-out foreign policy comments is IMHO a variation of it.


With hatred at its root
To the liberals, Obama is the magical, utopian Third Way - an escape from The System, the evil moral absolutist white heterosexual male power structure and its virtues and values. Obama is their Savior because he is a living, breathing, walking validation of the leftist hatred of The System and its goal of replacing it with a "new" "modern" "intelligent" progressive system. Their devotion is based solely on this possibility which he offers them.

(If he fails to uphold their shared delusion, he will be torn to shreds by the Demoncrats).

For collectivists, hate and love are two sides of the same coin.

No thanks
Self-proclaimed messiahs like Obama don't have a good track record. The harmless ones only bring about human deprivation. The typical ones leave a few million corpses on the altars of their egos.

No thanks, Obama. The dustbin of history is where you will reside after November 4.

Anne and Others
The person in question is Eric Holder.

Parker
There are antichrists-opponents of the Messiah. They reject the Father and the Son. If they reject the Son they also reject the Father. These are false teachers and deceivers.
And there is "the Antichrist" from Revelations. I read 1 John 2 and fail to see your point about the Antichrist not existing using this scripture to back your point.
John was writing to people who knew the Antichrist was coming in the last days but he wanted to make sure that they were also looking for the antichrists of their day. We have plenty of them today and they are very dangerous.

I'm still waiting for him to change
his tie for a bowtie.

Jonah Goldberg is an SF fan!
--
I will be damned (per the dogma of the Church of Obama Deified, no doubt).

But Mr. Goldberg closed his column with an oblique reference to Damon Knight's classic alien-encounter short story "To Serve Man" first published in *Galaxy* (November 1950).





=============
"'And the book?' I demanded, annoyed. 'What about that - *How to Serve Man*? That wasn't put there for you to read. They mean it. How do you explain that?'

"'I've read the first paragraph of that book,' he said. 'Why do you suppose I haven't slept for a week?'

"I said, 'Well?' and he smiled a curious, twisted smile.

"'It's a cookbook,' he said."


-- Damon Knight


AlphaOmega
I don't recall conservatives looking to GWB as a Messiah. Now some people do look back to Reagan and wish for the old days, but his message was "less government", not more, strong military against our enemies as one of the correct roles of government and that's why we loved him. He had a simple consistent message and he pretty much stuck to it. But not a Messiah to us.

No one looking at the two sides and honestly comparing can find an equivalence to what we are seeing with Obama.

What I want to know is - what will people like you do when GWB is gone and no longer able to be blamed for the incorrect rotation of the earth on its axis?

obama and antichrist
before making up one's mind if obama is the antichrist go to the website http://www.eadshome.com and look under the
'27 characteristics of the antichrist" obama does not fit these characteristics. he is a false christ. The bible in Acts teaches that Christ will come back the same way He left. obama could very well be the false prophet that will come before the antichrist

charlesmartel 1
GWB will be the 'whipping boy' for as long as the eye can see.He will be blamed for every mistake the left makes.They have not nor ever will accept blame for any of their misdeeds.

They are totally to blame for the lack of morals we have in society today.Admit it...are you kidding?They don't even see the it as a problem.


A Messiah in our Midst
Right from the beginning he has given me a sick feeling in the pit of my stomach and I've had the feeling he may be the anti-Christ. Certainly, we must take note of the fact that the next 4 years may well be our last. We know from the soaring gas prices that our world will not be the same again.

Rowly
Right. Until someone ese comes along as a convenient replacement. McCarthy, Nixon, Reagan, now Bush. I guess he'll be in the rotation depending on the subject.

Here and there
Traveler890: Gas prices are rising, and you see this as a sign of the end of the world?
It looks to me more like a sign that you should get rid of your SUV. Honestly, how lazy and out of touch can you get?
Charles Martel: You are right. Bush is too much of a village idiot to come across as a Messiah; he lacks the eloquence and the class. Saint Ronald was more like it. There is no question that he was very eloquent. I remember the eulogy he gave for the astronauts who died in the Challenger in 1986, and you had to hand it to him. From this distance, cons tend to forget the impeachable offence of trading weapons with the Iranians (I can only imagine what you people would say if a Democrat did that). They also forget that after his tax cuts, he had to resort to substantial tax increases, since he did not make a single move to reduce spending.
And, Rowly, lack of morals? Does it profit to talk about throwing stones, when you live in a glass house? Morals do not begin and end with premarital sex or gay marriage. The entire past seven years living under the Bush regime has been an orgy of immorality. Tell us how moral it is to send 4000+ soldiers to their death in an unjustified war, while letting mercenaries like Halliburton make obscene profits off their sacrifice.

AlphaOmega
Lack of morals is indeed a result of Democrat meddling,changing the rules,using the courts for any dastardly deed they cannot win at the ballot box.

Keep railing against the Iraq War.I'm sure the enemy can use it to further their cause.The present Democrat Party is beneath contempt for the killing of the innocents.

"Orgy of Immorality".How pathetic!

A few..
I'm with Kepha.

As insidious as it may be to say that Senator Obama is the Messiah, it's even more specious to presume he even THINKS he is.

In either case, he is not, and it's rather abominable to even suggest so. Senator Obama, like so many other marginal and carnal Christians who self-identify is "conservative" this or "liberal" that wouldn't know Y'Shua if he were their local Cable guy.

As well, knowing and having consulted and contributed to the "27 characteristics of the anti-(Messiah)" (before I decided to come from out among contemporary Christianity), it's obvious to anyone who has done even a cursory study of Eschatology knows that he's not that either.

He's Chicago politics, nothing more, nothing less. Though not a supporter of his politics or that of his party, it has intrigued me about the response to this person. As a non-white it's surely clear the initial aversion to this man, followed by his overwhelmingly liberal politics. Yet for me this dualism with the faith thing is what's most intriguing. A typical politician, carnal and marginal Christian, and babe at best, and people expect something more? Very amusing.

There used to be a time when people looked to someone in their midst whose virtues and ideals and humanity led the people to submit to and accept their leadership and support their vision.

At 43, I haven't seen that in any politician in my adult life, and though I have not shunned my civic duty and privilege to vote, I have, but only a few occasions seen that virtue in a candidate.

Those occasions took place earlier in my adult life and maybe once in my thirties.

And I'm still waiting.

obama messiah?
Messiah? NO! Anti-Christ? YES! If not, he is most definitely the devil's disciple.
Do we have a chance to change the outcome of this? If those of us with minds will unite and do what is right, it can. We MUST defeat obama or face a hell no one could ever imagine.
I have seen it coming for years with the asinine laws the liberals have enacted to deny us our rights. You can see it in the schools. Our youth have been dumbed down and their heads filled with garbage! WHY do you suppose that the liberals are against home schooling? They do not want people to LEARN the truth or to think outside their guidelines. NEVER in history have the signs been so in align with the Bible's LAST DAYS. The END begins with an obama WIN! REMEMBER that on election day!!!!!

Oh c'mon..
The END will not be on election.

Wait.. I'll play the little silly game.

For whom and how will this end be specifically ushered in?

If Senator Obama's "followers" are going to assist in this abomination, then what of the rest of us.. what ever shall we do?

It's no secret that liberals make for carnal and lackluster Christians, but unless conservatives, libertarians, and other upright independents don't stop (and I'm seeing it wherever I go) participating in the upspiritual repugnant, unsanctified and unconverted behaviors of heathen, then who is going to be around to clean things up when this other 4 years of Jimmy Carter are up? That's ALL that's going to happen, so it would be nice to see people start manning up and stop acting so sissified.

One so-called "black Jimmy Carter" (even if no one from Stormfront or Blackwaters puts a bullet in his head) isn't going to bring on the Andromeda Strain.

Rough times are cyclical, and you know it.

OBAMA the MESSIAH ????
ABSOLUTLY N-O-T !!!! I FEEL LIKE AN UN-CLEAN SINNER TO MENTION OBAMA'S NAME AND MESSIAH IN THE SAME SENTENCE OR, BREATH- I ASK MY LORD TO FORGIVE ME. OBAMA, VERY WELL COULD BE THE ANTICHRIST. WHO HAS COME TO DECEIVE AND DESTROY. THOES WHO FOLLOW HIM WILL BURN IN H-E-L-L!!!!. IF OBAMA IS NOT THE REAL ANTICHRIST, THEN HE IS AMOUNG THE MANY WHO WILL COME BEFORE OUR TRUE DEVINE LORD. TO PREPARE THE WEAK IN FAITH FOR THE REAL ANTICHRIST. HE WILL LIE, STEAL, DESTROY AND DEVOUR THEIR SOLES. HELL FIRE IS WAITING. HEAVEN ALSO IS WAITING FOR THE TRUE BELIEVERS IN OUR LORD. WAKE UP PEOPLE- YOU ONLY GET ONE CHANCE- TIME IS SHORT. LET US PRAY THAT OBAMA WILL NOT WIN THIS ELECTION, BUT ALWAYS KNOW THERE WILL BE MORE EVIL ONES TO FOLLOW HIM!!!! OBAMA IS NOT MY MESSIAH. ALL THOSE WHO KNOW THE LORD CAN NOT BE FOOLED. IF OBAMA IS YOUR MESSIAH,THEN I PRAY YOU WILL SEE THE TRUE DEVINE LIGHT AND LOVE OF OUR ALMIGHTY LORD THY GOD AND ACCEPT HIM, BEFORE YOU LOOSE YOUR SOLES.

Be quiet..
you and all of your big capital letters. Anti-Christ or anti-Messiah is an ideology or world view that exalts itself again the knowledge of Yahweh, the Elohim of ALL creation. Partisan ideology (conservative, liberal, libertarian) and even religious ideology (black liberation theology, contemporary lawless "Christianity" which is merely Replacement Theology) and a plethora of other man-made philosophies (American NATIONALISM being more and more pervasive) are ALL AGAINST the higher calling and purpose for which the Savior of the World was even sent.

Not only who you ARE, only what you DO for Messiah will last.



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