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Sunday, May 03, 2009
Hugh Hewitt :: Townhall.com Columnist
A Change In The Wind?
by Hugh Hewitt
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The 100 Days of Obama Tour opened last week in Dallas, Houston, and San Antonio. The Salem Radio Network's nationally syndicated talk show hosts --Bill Bennett, Mike Gallagher, Michael Medved, Dennis Prager and me-- are appearing in some combination of three to discuss President Obama's start on governing and to take questions from what have been large and very enthusiastic audiences. This week we move on to Los Angeles, Sacramento and Phoenix, the following week to Denver, Chicago, Minneapolis and Cleveland before finishing up in Philadelphia and Atlanta on May 18 and 19 respectively.

I and most others inside the world of talk radio already knew that audience growth for conservative talk was large and growing since the election of President Obama in November. I wrote at length on why this was occurring for NationalReview.com a few weeks back.

The difference between knowing that the audience is growing and experiencing the commitment of the audience to the renewal of the conservative movement in America and the rebuilding of the Republican majority is the great advantage of the tour.

At each stop last week I asked the audience to do two specific things to help advance the cause of conservative renewal in 2009: To subscribe to Townhall Magazine and to join TalkPac.com.

Townhall Magazine is the journal that focuses more than any other on talk radio and on the cutting edge issues that are drawing conservatives together rather than dividing them. Each month it provides a comprehensive overview of the key issues developing across the dozen talk shows that matter in the culture while providing original reporting on key controversies and debates. Its growth since the Fall's elections reflects the overall growth that conservative forums of all sorts have enjoyed since November 2008.

TalkPac.com is a political action committee founded last month to defeat the many forms of assault on conservative talk radio, from frontal charges like the Fairness Doctrine, to flanking movements like localism rules, and backdoor, camouflaged attacks such as the Performance Tax which would cripple music radio but in so doing would weaken all radio companies by shifting huge revenues to the big record companies.

So I have made appeals at each stop for audience members to subscribe to the magazine and sign up for TalkPac.com if only as a $5 member (though of course we would prefer donations up to the max of $5,000). The response to both appeals has been huge and gratifying. And it reflects what the tea party movement signaled: Center-right voters are appalled but also energized by the hard left lurch the country's government has taken under President Obama and Speaker Pelosi and Majority Leader Reid. People genuinely like the new president, and especially like the First Lady and their children. They approve of his commitment to victory in Afghanistan and to the continued use of air strikes on terrorists and of sophisticated surveillance techniques pioneered under President Bush.

But they are shocked at the unbelievable, massive levels spending; shocked at the president's rhetoric on the European tour and his willingness to endure Daniel Ortega's rant without objection, and to grip and grin with Chavez, the Mugabe of South America; and alarmed by the plans to jam health care rationing down the Congressional throat. Supporters of Israel are deeply troubled by the apparent hostility toward the new Netanyahu government. Those concerned with national security are troubled by the cancellation of the F-22 and by other moves that signal a return to the disastrous "hollowing out" policies of the '90s.

The president's press conference last week got an "A" on style, but his answer that the horse was out of the barn on the pandemic again displayed an ideological rather than a fact-based approach to problem solving. There may be reasons not to close the border, but the idea that all the damage that can be done has been done with regard to H1N1 is preposterous. Similarly the president's rhetorical assault on the bond holders of Chrysler while he moves at the same time to mostly insulated the UAW from the aftereffects of its decades-long refusal to accept wage and benefit structures competitive with Toyota and every other major car company not headquartered in Detroit underscores his willingness to rewrite any rule --including those of bankruptcy court-- with which he disagrees. Like the firing of GM, the attempt to manipulated the rules of Chapter 11 to elevate the rights of non-secured debtors over secured debtors is a radical move.

Toping it all off was the launch and then back-off from a witch hunt against former Bush Administration lawyers on the matter of interrogation techniques.

Center-right votes and a large swath of the independent vote is shaking its collective head at the furious rush to the far left, and the initial thought that the new president would govern from the center is gone. President Obama will use moderate rhetoric to cloak radical actions on the domestic front, and a return to Carterism abroad.

The approval polls reflect his likeability but mask his vulnerability, or more accurately, the vulnerability of his party in 2010. The push for single-payer national health care (again, cloaked in comforting words of "competition") will accelerate the recognition that balance is needed in D.C. and can only be obtained at the ballot box.

In the mean time, watch first for the results of California's special election in two weeks. The six ballot initiatives that the Sacramento Democrats and Arnold put before the voters will be rejected, another leading indicator of voter remorse at having empowered the neosocialism of the modern Democratic Party and some go-along Republicans.

Then look for round two of the tea parties on July 4 --information is at TeaPartyPatriots.org-- and after that the gubernatorial contests in New Jersey and Virginia, states where Democrats have dominated for the past many cycles.

The energy of the tea parties and which we see on our tour of the country may not be a majority movement yet, but it clearly indicates that the new president has blown off the idea of a new politics and a new bipartisanship, and that the signal has been received loud and clear. The unaligned voters of America thought they might be electing a post-partisan, post-ideological president but already know --and will learn again and again-- that what they actually got was a hard left ideologue with a wonderful reading voice. Bait-and-switch has never gone over very well with Americans.

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Good job!
Keep shrinking that tent, Republicans; that's the path to victory!

Great Article
AND Because it contains no instances of the disaster wrecked on the economy by overspending, excessive taxation, a lack of fiscal control, and political favors......

Liberals can post here.....

Anything remotely tied to economics, taxation, spending, etc, etc.....the poor libbys...their heads explode....


Great article Mr. Hewitt
Purge the party of go-along Republicans,they're useless and clueless.
Good bye RINO's, vote them out of office.







Hal #43
Now, the only area where we may lead is military and that cannot long survive without a healthy and educated economy and population.

I would agree with this statement with this in mind;
The States are responsible for education. Just as "at fault" and ever lacking in partisan bickering is our MTV/A.D.D. society we have created in the last couple decades. Caught a PBS show the other night called "Bhutan, The Middle Path to Happiness." Since they had nothing and now have all these western luxuries. It was like a study on all that is right and wrong with Western Living. Education went down as TV went up. You cannot blame a party on that, just a parent.(obviously watching pbs does not have that affect).

Galileo said, you cannot teach a person, you can only guide them to teach themselves.

Health= Diet + Lifestyle. You can throw all the money you want at that, but this country is so out of step with healthy eating. And it shows (I have been to the midwest). THe thing that is missed when talking about France or Switzerland is they have wholesome food, hardly any fast food. Have to walk to get to public transportation,etc. The SAD diet is killing the country. So again, that means stepping up and taking care of ourselves.

Do we need a 5 year old getting treated for kidney stones? (an old mans disease). Or do Mom and Dad (or party A and party B) need to stop the insane amounts of salt and sugar? Sugar...lets not forget the diabetes problem kids have. Again, parent and school inflicted unfortunately.

TAMMY
Location: IL
Reply # 65
Date: May 4, 2009 - 3:50 PM EST
while I agree with some of the behaviors that you sited about Americans, specially that we have become a consumer society. But it is not an accurate description of all Americans. Since 1994 I have done volunteer work with other volunteers who help the homeless shelters, women's shelters, the Any Baby Can program and many others. My husband has helped with Habitat for Humanity in our community. Americans are the most unselfish and giving society in the world. I know a group of doctors in my community who go to a South American country for two weeks every years to help children with clift pallets. My church sponsors a group to help shelters in our city and sends a group each year to go to S. Africa to build homes.

There are many organizations in this country which give of their time and funds to help the less fortunate. The Obama organization was considering eliminating charitable donations as being a tax write off. I know a literacy group who helps minority children and they have told me that if this is their main source of funding.

So, with that said, I hope you will reconsider your opinion that Americans don't care about the poor in this country. We care about the poor everywhere and willing share our wealth.


Hal-OBAMA
is the enlightened one.

He is not a marxist because he is enlightened. He agrees with Karl but Karl was not enlightened like Hal.

reply to: Geoffrey
Many on the left have failed to note that it has been Blue Dogs (moderates) winning for their side, NOT the hard-left zealots... people such as Heath Shuler, who is for enforcement against ILLEGALS and sponsors the SAVE Act to reverse their invasion.

Even Obama hid his core hard-left talk in Pied Piper fashion, and they put a muzzle on Michelle after the Revrund Wright type stuff bubbled up-- "For the first time in my adult life, I am proud of my country..."

Frankly, for all the talk about how the RINOS are out of favor, the whole Congress has been! Check out the personal ratings of Reid, Peloser, Dudd, etc.

Foolish,lying, American-hating dictator.
Using moderate rhetoric to hide radical actions sounds like good ole fashion LYING.

Idealogical rather than fact based approach to problem solving Shows foolishness.

Bowing down and shaking hands and apologizing to the world's most evil dictators shows contempt for America.

REwriting any rule with which he disagrees shows he thinks we elected him to be dictator not merely president of the USA

Gee whiz he sounds like the man that should be leading our country.

too tempting to feed the troll
re:
"What do the red states have to show for it? They are less healthy, wealthy and educated. CA's fatal flaw is that they MUST balance the budget - a road to total disaster. they will get worse as long as that is the law"

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

So then, guvment SHOULD spend itself into insolvency and failure! Why should anyone want fiscal responsibility?! Silly us!

No wonder communism failed outright, and socialism is failing in Europe and elsewhere!

As SFA1973 noted saliently:
"Then why are the bluest of the blue states dead flat broke, whining to the Feds for a bailout?"

Speculating
In looking at the Dem's up re election in 2010; I think there are a few that are vulnerable.

Reid: is in for one tough fight in Nevada; particularly if gun control passes.

Feingold: is vulnerable, a lot of folks in Wisconsin are just plain fed up with him.

Specter: Hel#'s deepest circle is reserved for betrayers. There are a few others in the Pennsylvania democratic party that have had an eye on that seat before his defection, it's not a give me, in spite of what promises Specter may have been bought off with.

Dodd: he may not be facing a battle at this time but, with the right approach, a lot of the current financial problems can be pined on him directly.

There are others and we will have to wait and see.

well, actually
re:
We used to be the "silent majority." Now we are the vocal minority. When only 200K+ show up (in all 50 states) to protest the radical leftward shift in government policy, there's a problem. We lost the last election by about 7.5 million votes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

You are overreacting... even Dubya won just 4 years ago by millions of votes, despite his neoCONS having started an unpopular war of choice... that thing was a worse mess than Viet Nam-- and fought for the wrong reasons (to get bases there for Israel)-- THAT is where the immense cost has been-- now $1 TRILLION down a rat hole, and headed toward 3 TRILLION all-in... that is $400,000 per Israeli... we should have the mere 5 million of them move here instead!

Presidente Jorge proved to be a DISASTER... he did NOT govern as a conservative. He proved to be clueless, and grew guvment terribly.

It was RINO/CINO Dubya who failed and was rejected-- NOT conservative government.

When the electorate realizes what it has backed into reactively, it will reject the Glowbama.

Doofass:
Then why are the bluest of the blue states dead flat broke, whining to the Feds for a bailout?

BTW, were you born fluent in gibberish, or did you become fluent when you had your double prefrontal and double frontal lobotomies in order to join the Dumsh1tcrap Party?

Tammy
If a minimum wage made sense then why doesn't the government just mandate a high enough wage for all of us? The minimum wage is not enough to raise a family on but that was never the point, the market will always pay for skills, if your skills are in demand you can expect a living wage. If not well you know.

Tammy
It is too low and a person cannot live an independent life with that salary and is eligible for state aid. As long as that is the case multiple jobs, not hope, financial problems all destroy the family. A job should not exist if it cannot allow a person to life frugally

It is Interesting
Hal is just one of many on the left that are spinning our current calamities as a failure of free markets and conservatism, some know they are lying others are just parrots.

Our failure is seminaly simple, we have since 1913 had a central bank that has manipulated money. They create money out of thin air they artificially control interest rates, none of that is how free markets work. In a free market interest rates will find their own level and money cannot be created out of nothing it must be backed by something of value. When you literally make money and lend it at artificially low interest rates it has to go somewhere and this time it was housing. It created and artificial need and supplied and artificially low interest money to buy it, with the full complicity of every government agency and congress and the executive branch incouraging it and denying the oversight of the mortgage bankers, if you believe in conspiracy theories here you have a good one. Everybody got rich and everyone got away with it and the tax payers are cleaning it up.

Nothing in this was free market!

oracle1
"Date: May 4, 2009 - 3:06 PM EST
I really must stop feeding the troll!
re:
Judge by results the last twenty plus years you folks VASTLY expanded government. Look if conservatism worked the majority of red states would be the wealthiest, best educated and healthiest populations - you don't

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Jesus, Hal-- how lost can you be?!?

Mexifornia is a fiscal and guvment DISASTER, yet per your theory it is where the red states should be!,,,"

What do the red states have to show for it? They are less healthy, wealthy and educated. CA's fatal flaw is that they MUST balance the budget - a road to total disaster. they will get worse as long as that is the law

Reba, Hal
""Dancing with the Stars" and "American Idol" rather than what is politically blowing in the wind. But the wake up call begins when their pocketbooks are hit and the freedoms to choose their own direction in life becomes less."

***
When we wait until the pocketbook is hit, we ARE stupid. We have been stupid for a very long time. We trusted the people in power (not the politicians, the guys in CEO positions, the stock market wizards).

It is most unfortunate for the 2nd time in less than a century that we must learn our
lesson all over again, but you know Americans.
We are big and we are bold and we can't be
told a damn thing. Don't tread on us. Bring
on the gas guzzlers, bring on the wars, pile
on the credit card debt. We can't buy enough,
we can't get rich enough, we need not care for
the poor. They made their choices. Let them
live with it.

P.S. Hal, please explain to me how the
minimum wage is against family values.

Shifting winds?
I wish I could agree with Reba's rosy assessment, but I'm afraid Hal and the rest of the fringe left are correct on this one.

We used to be the "silent majority." Now we are the vocal minority. When only 200K+ show up (in all 50 states) to protest the radical leftward shift in government policy, there's a problem. We lost the last election by about 7.5 million votes.
I see a nation where intellectual apathy is the norm. The English language is debased. Our youth (and I'm only 31, mind you) routinely look like cast extras from the Road Warrior, Religous antipathy is ascendant, we're being overrun by invaders from the south and not one person in Washington cares, etc. etc. America won't be recognizeable in 10 years.

good point
re:
People in this country had two very poor choices last November, they chose the one that promised change.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Well put... we got stuck with Amnesty John because the neoCONS and the myopic and selfish pro-ILLEGAL labor ilk backed him. That meant a Hobson's Choice-- NO REAL CHOICE.

But Dubya is really responsible for creating the stench, as I covered in 2 posts around 11:00. Many common sense conservatives like me were left with no place to go.

Karl Rove could coach him on how to get elected-- but he governed like a big-spending Çrat. As Hubert Humphrey said of Jimma' Carter, "There is a difference between the ability to get elected and the capacity to govern."

That will likely prove also to apply to the Glowbama.

Oracle
I have rather quickly learned that Hal is not here to exchange ideas. He is quite good that at talking points.

If...
If big government was the answer then what happened to USSR
If sociliased medicine was a great idea move to Cuba
If high taxes was the answer then it is a dumb question but what is the un-employment rate in western Europe.
If cap and trade is a good idea then Europe should be well on the way to 0% CO2.
If government run schools is a good idea, then look at USA.

I really must stop feeding the troll!
re:
Judge by results the last twenty plus years you folks VASTLY expanded government. Look if conservatism worked the majority of red states would be the wealthiest, best educated and healthiest populations - you don't

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Jesus, Hal-- how lost can you be?!?

Mexifornia is a fiscal and guvment DISASTER, yet per your theory it is where the red states should be!

They have spent themselves into near bankruptcy, then raised taxes to try to pay for some of it. Despite the physical appeal of the terrain and climate, they have been driving businesses and the well-off to move away. Regulations have been strangling them-- there are more than 10 different gasoline mixtures required depending on location.

Mexifornia is a harbinger of what the ObaMessiah may well foist upon the rest of America-- tax and spend and over-regulate irresponsibly.

Tom2
"... Obama approaches the office of POTUS like it's just another commununity organizing project. His domestic policies will bankrupt this country and his foreign policies make us appear weak to our sworn enemies.,,"

Couple of points here. It is a community organizing project on a grand scale. He is first among equals not a dictator. Nothing made this country appear weaker than allowing Al Q and Osama to go free and then wallowing for years in Iraq and using torture and crimes against humanity.

"... You see Hal unlike you on the left that would destroy your country to promote your ideals, I'm at least willing to give the guy a chance..."

Me too but I am not the guy saying I want Obama to fail like your leader Rush.

"...Mark my word that unless he moderates his policy directions it will be the Democrats in the Congress that are disappointed in the next election cycle."

That is not at all what I am seeing and hearing across the nation except for the reactionary fringe

Tom
"Date: May 4, 2009 - 2:03 PM EST
Hal...but I see one fatal flaw in your reasoning. That is that conservatism somehow failed. ...BUSH WAS NOT A CONSERVATIVE. ... THAT is what failed, NOT conservatism..."

Your serious problem is that Bush was indeed a conservative and that is what most called him including the head of your party Limbawl until his popularity crashed

"... The Democrats have succeeded in tying a traditional weakness of theirs (tax and spend) to Bush because he acted like a Democrat. period..."

He acted like every conservative from Reagan. Look at results. The Dems had to do nothing

",..Another penchant of the left today is to continue to blame Bush for all our current problems. Tell us how you are gonna blame Bush for Obama's record deficits and make Americans believe it? ..."

That is easy the Americans know that the failed Bush was the cause of the huge spending. No blame requires facts work well here

"...Your alluding to fixing leaky roofs on schools is wrong since there already exists taxes and other revenues to take care of that..."

No actually that is why I sometimes compare conservatism to a disease. Your tax cut philosophy eliminated almost all maintenance etc that is why the infrastructure is collapsing. In other words you used what other taxpayers provided and then skipped out when it was your turn to pay the bill


HAL DONAHUE
Just shut up - you never make sense.

Tom2

"... Hal claims he's here to provide a free "service" ... What has he done with his life that demands our respect?.."

A common run of the mill Moderate leaning liberal committed to restoring our nation. Respect? I am a human being is that not enough for respect?

"..Hal your "service" would be better served and appreciated on Huffington Post or Moveon.org than here..."

I have an occasional blog on Huffington and help Move On occasionally

"...People in this country had two very poor choices last November, they chose the one that promised change..."

No, actually they had two very strong choices Hil and Obama

"... As it is starting to look that change they voted for isn't what was billed...if he continues to push radical legislation like he has been...."

Simply not true but hey let's wait and see

"...I vehemently disagree with Obama's policies ..the majority of Germans too."

LMAO as was the failed Bush the torturer. FYI Obama is an extremely likable guy

Tom
"Date: May 4, 2009 - 1:48 PM EST
The problem with Hal
is that he's an idealogue and thinks there is no way he could be wrong about Obama's vision for this country and mistakenly believes he represents the center of this country, he doesn't..."

I am about where president Obama is moderate leaning left of center. I guess you don't travel much outside your social set and geography? I am an ideologue is there something wrong with that?

"... Sorry to break it to ya there Hal but the majority of Americans don't think like you OR agree with Obama's domestic policy ideas..."

I am slightly left of center like President Obama. This is a fact

"... It is a common theme for lefties to refer to conservatives as hate filled bigots, isn't that in itself an attempt to get neutral minds to HATE conservatives like he does?.."

Many but far from all on here most likely are. Do you deny that? I don't hate conservatives. I believe the underlying emotion of conservatism is fear.

Hal
People voted for Obama for a host of reasons. The biggest one was his promise of change. In what form has that change materialized? Not in any form that he promised during the campaign. I understand where you are coming from but I see one fatal flaw in your reasoning. That is that conservatism somehow failed. I will say this to you again so you will understand, BUSH WAS NOT A CONSERVATIVE. From his handling of the war in Iraq to his domestic spending policies he was NOT a conservative. THAT is what failed, NOT conservatism. Bush sided with the majority in this country on issues like Abortion and same sex marriages but that's about it. The Democrats have succeeded in tying a traditional weakness of theirs (tax and spend) to Bush because he acted like a Democrat. period. Another penchant of the left today is to continue to blame Bush for all our current problems. Tell us how you are gonna blame Bush for Obama's record deficits and make Americans believe it? Your alluding to fixing leaky roofs on schools is wrong since there already exists taxes and other revenues to take care of that. Obama approaches the office of POTUS like it's just another commununity organizing project. His domestic policies will bankrupt this country and his foreign policies make us appear weak to our sworn enemies. I hope I'm wrong because he is my president but I cannot support something I know will fail. You see Hal unlike you on the left that would destroy your country to promote your ideals, I'm at least willing to give the guy a chance. Mark my word that unless he moderates his policy directions it will be the Democrats in the Congress that are disappointed in the next election cycle.

The problem with Hal
is that he's an idealogue and thinks there is no way he could be wrong about Obama's vision for this country and mistakenly believes he represents the center of this country, he doesn't. Sorry to break it to ya there Hal but the majority of Americans don't think like you OR agree with Obama's domestic policy ideas. It is a common theme for lefties to refer to conservatives as hate filled bigots, isn't that in itself an attempt to get neutral minds to HATE conservatives like he does? Hal claims he's here to provide a free "service" to educate us all on the wisdom of progressive thought. First of all, who IS Hal anyway? What has he done with his life that demands our respect? Hal your "service" would be better served and appreciated on Huffington Post or Moveon.org than here. People in this country had two very poor choices last November, they chose the one that promised change. As it is starting to look that change they voted for isn't what was billed and they're beginning to change their minds. Buyer's remorse is beginning to show itself with those that grudgingly voted for Obama with many more sure to follow if he continues to push radical legislation like he has been. I vehemently disagree with Obama's policies but I do think he's a very likable guy. But then again Hitler was a very likable guy to the majority of Germans too.

Tom
"Date: May 4, 2009 - 1:36 PM EST
What a joke
Obana's bi-partisanship is. He consistently ramrods legislation down the throats of Congress before even allowing them to read what they're voting for/against!.."

Once and that was a national economic emergency. It is early yet but the stimulus appears to be working

"...Then you have his adoring followers like Hal Donahue here to make claims that what he is really doing is rebuilding previously negelected areas of this country. Exactly WHAT is he rebuilding?.."

Go see where the money is going and what is being spent. Schools with roofs leaking; inadequate roads so just go online and review.

"...How is taking money from those that work and giving it to those that don't/won't rebuilding ANYTHING? ..."

That is not and I doubt much of that is happening except for the weak and old. Investing in schooling etc is just that investing. Who got a tax raise? Very few folks must got tax cuts

"...Bush was no conservative on ANY issue other than religiom and foreign policy. In that regard Bush was perhaps too far right..."

Those two legs run your party

"...But considering 9/11 it's understandable..."

Panic may be understandable but hardly a trait to condone

"...Hal all I can say is the jury is still out on Obama's domestic policies. When/if they fail he won't be able to win dog catcher in any state other than California, New York, or Michigan."

If he does not the Democratic Party rules for at least a generation because you folks refused to assist

What a joke
Obana's bi-partisanship is. He consistently ramrods legislation down the throats of Congress before even allowing them to read what they're voting for/against! Why? Simply put he knows they would not vote for it if word got out what it will cost. Then you have his adoring followers like Hal Donahue here to make claims that what he is really doing is rebuilding previously negelected areas of this country. Exactly WHAT is he rebuilding? How is taking money from those that work and giving it to those that don't/won't rebuilding ANYTHING? Bush was no conservative on ANY issue other than religiom and foreign policy. In that regard Bush was perhaps too far right. But considering 9/11 it's understandable. How quickly people forget the Carter years (or willfully ignore them)! Hal all I can say is the jury is still out on Obama's domestic policies. When/if they fail he won't be able to win dog catcher in any state other than California, New York, or Michigan.

Reba
"Date: May 4, 2009 - 1:23 PM EST...but Americans are not stupid as someone posted here. We may sometimes prefer to watch "Dancing with the Stars" and "American Idol" rather than what is politically blowing in the wind. But the wake up call begins when their pocketbooks are hit and the freedoms to choose their own direction in life becomes less."

You are exactly correct. Americans woke up last November that is when the revolution was and why I think you guys are now fading reactionaries

"...Truth, Freedom, Love of God, Country and Family will always win out..."

Exactly correct see my comment above. Hate, division and minimum wages are not family values.

"..I feel sorry for you Liberals who don't understand or experience these values. "

Exactly how we feel sad that you have so debauched the very values you claim to praise.

BAIT AND SWITCH POLITICS BY OBAMA
Hewitt is so right. The radical left may have control now in the administration and congress, but Americans are not stupid as someone posted here. We may sometimes prefer to watch "Dancing with the Stars" and "American Idol" rather than what is politically blowing in the wind. But the wake up call begins when their pocketbooks are hit and the freedoms to choose their own direction in life becomes less.

Extremism of any sort never last. You Liberals can laugh, make fun of Republicans and Conservatives, say vile things publicly against us all you want. Enjoy it while you can. It won't last. Truth, Freedom, Love of God, Country and Family will always win out.
I feel sorry for you Liberals who don't understand or experience these values.


David
"Date: May 4, 2009 - 12:35 PM EST
Hal Donahue
You continue to make a fatal error in your observations and I suspect intentionally. Their has been liitle or none conservative leadership in this country for years..."

Conservatism was the philosophy growing rapidly in dominance with the election of Reagan as CA Governor in the mid 60's. I like to point out that when Reagan became governor CA had the best schools in the world when Reagan became President CA did not have the best schools in the country but the country did have the best air traffic control system in the world. Essentially you suck the money out and left whole sectors to decay

"...Certainly we had a Republican in office for the last 8 years but he is no conservative. Government and the subsequent spending they accrued grew alarmingly."

BUT the failed Bush was a conservative he was a social and religious conservative, the main segment of your party. He did what he wanted like any true conservative after all it was about him, the individual

"... Obama is managing however to eclipse even that. Not since Newt's congress has their been anything akin to conservative governing."

fiscal conservative which always were a minority of conservatives

Hal Donahue
You continue to make a fatal error in your observations and I suspect intentionally. Their has been liitle or none conservative leadership in this country for years. Certainly we had a Republican in office for the last 8 years but he is no conservative. Government and the subsequent spending they accrued grew alarmingly. Obama is managing however to eclipse even that. Not since Newt's congress has their been anything akin to conservative governing.

David
"Date: May 4, 2009 - 12:03 PM EST
Hal Donahue
With an economy twice as large as Chinas, we can lead in any area we choose as long as we do not overly burden production and tripling the national debt in 10 years, inflating our "money" and the incredible yoke of Cap n Trade and the subsequent tax hikes this administration is causing will in fact kill the goose."

I judge by results. If we can, then why have we not kept up? Inflation is a real danger and the next challenge we face coming out of the Bush Depression. Cap n trade is not a yoke it is capturing the full cost of production. The tax payer has had to pay the costs companies have ignored for increased profit. Your free ride is over it appears

Hal Donahue
With an economy twice as large as Chinas, we can lead in any area we choose as long as we do not overly burden production and tripling the national debt in 10 years, inflating our "money" and the incredible yoke of Cap n Trade and the subsequent tax hikes this administration is causing will in fact kill the goose.

oracle1
"Date: May 4, 2009 - 11:41 AM EST
gotta' luv how libs bray about...
re:

(corrected for comprehensibility)
"Two things-- this is not irresponsible spending-- the American people will see actual gain from much of these "investments". Second, you conservatives are known as the party of big government, not the democratic party."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

..."investments," as if that were not just an artful euphemism for profligate, irresponsible big guvment spending and growth. You can put lipstick on that pig, but he still oinks, and squeals when you pin him down."

You allowed every segment of society to decay. The vast majority of the spending goes toward rebuilding and replacing projects conservatives refused to fund in their mad rush to recreate the US into a second world nation. No lipstick involved

"...As for conservatives being known versus 'Çrats as the party of big guvment, Hal, you need some new drugs there, pal! The drugs you have been doin' are making you TOTALLY delusional! "

Judge by results the last twenty plus years you folks VASTLY expanded government. Look if conservatism worked the majority of red states would be the wealthiest, best educated and healthiest populations - you don't

David
"Date: May 4, 2009 - 11:18 AM EST
Hal Donahue
I would happily go back to Reagan and supply side, as opposed to this reckless looting socialism which appeals to the envy in libs and taxes production, never works , ever."

All Reagan did was use up all the social and physical infrastructure developed and funded by the greatest generation. In essence, reaganism was eating our seed corn. When Reagan became President the US led the world in every area of human endeavor. Now, the only area where we may lead is military and that cannot long survive without a healthy and educated economy and population.

gotta' luv how libs bray about...
re:

(corrected for comprehensibility)
"Two things-- this is not irresponsible spending-- the American people will see actual gain from much of these "investments". Second, you conservatives are known as the party of big government, not the democratic party."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

..."investments," as if that were not just an artful euphemism for profligate, irresponsible big guvment spending and growth. You can put lipstick on that pig, but he still oinks, and squeals when you pin him down.

As for conservatives being known versus 'Çrats as the party of big guvment, Hal, you need some new drugs there, pal! The drugs you have been doin' are making you TOTALLY delusional!


oracle1
"Date: May 4, 2009 - 11:00 AM EST
so good, worth a reprise
re:
David Location: TX
Reply # 1
Date: May 4, 2009 - 10:37 AM EST
Hal Donahue
Conservatism never fails, works every time it is implemented. Just been a while since it was tried.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Dubya was a FAR CRY from a fiscal conservative!

We have already squandered almost $1 TRILLION on Iraq because Dubya's Zionist/neoCON advisers (Wolfy, Feith, Perle, Abrams, Libby, Bolton) wanted to get bases there to protect Israel. In so doing, we pursued the wrong bad Islamics...."

True, BUT the failed Bush was very much a social and fundamentalist conservative, the wing driving conservatism now. And he is EXACTLY who you get with the hooray with me to heck with everyone else first commandment of conservatism. You don't listen to anyone but YOU because it is about only the individual not family, God or country

"...Presidente Jorge also got lured into Rx Care For Seniors, 90% of whom needed no such help... it will mushroom into a monster boondoggle."

Not true but for arguments sake to heck with that 10%?

",...Heck, Hal D. ought to love Dubya! He acted substantially like a big guvment Çrat! That was a key thing (CINO's/RINO's) that caused conservatives to turn on Republicans... Dubya teed it up for the left because "change" really meant to many no more neoCONS and ineptitude."

Your last word sums it up! Ineptitude or incompetence. Some how conservatives get so wrapped up in a tree (god, guns or gay take your pick) that they missed the entire forest (good government). I am a devout pragmatist; get results. Conservatives demonstrated yet again that they cannot

JACK...CA.
INTERESTING QUOTES..AND SOME TRUTH !
I WONDER WHAT GOOD OL GOERGE WOULD SAY
IF HE WAS WATCHING "9/11" GOING ON !?
WOULD GEO./THOMAS JEFFERSON SAY TO THE
MURDERING ANIMALS OF RADICAL ISLAM, AMEN, TO
THE RANTING OF "DESTROY ISRAEL"!?
THIS IS NOT 1700'S ! SHEEEZ!
ELVIS

Hal Donahue
I would happily go back to Reagan and supply side, as opposed to this reckless looting socialism which appeals to the envy in libs and taxes production, never works , ever.

ARE WE SURPRISED?
DON'T THINK SO!
WHERE HAVE DUBYA,MC LAME BEEN ON ILLEGALS?
WE ALL KNOW! IT IS LIKE CONGRESSMAN FORD(TN.)
A DEMOCRAT, SAID.."IF THE GOP WAS SERIOUS ABOUT
IMMIGRATION THEY WOULD GO AFTER THE EMPLOYERS!
ELVIS

RINO'S are too akin to liberals
It is ESSENTIAL that Republicans and conservatives NOT repeat some of the mistakes that dragged them down recently-- mainly spending and growing guvment like liberals!

Notwithstanding that caveat, Republicans won 5 of 6 elections after Carter, several by blowouts... only Slick Willie's second term was a solid win for the left, until Glowbama-- and Slick Willie was dancing like a center-right pol (the era of big govt. is OVER). Slick had claimed a mandate in '92, but gadfly Perot botched up those results, and with a Libertarian/right message at that.

It was NOT the traditional Republican message that the electorate repudiated in 2008... it was Dubya's neoCON adventure in Iraq, followed by the economic collapse, which the LEFT in Congress (Dodd, Barney "I want your Frank," Schumer, etc.) had engendered with demands for sub-prime mortgage lending.

The ObaMessiah/Glowbama will likely learn to regret it if he overplays the big guvment stratagem. The tea parties are a sincere rejection in the making. His negatives are HIGHER than Dubya's were after 3 months-- and many had thought that Dubya was illegitimately elected.

so good, worth a reprise
re:
David Location: TX
Reply # 1
Date: May 4, 2009 - 10:37 AM EST
Hal Donahue
Conservatism never fails, works every time it is implemented. Just been a while since it was tried.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Dubya was a FAR CRY from a fiscal conservative!

We have already squandered almost $1 TRILLION on Iraq because Dubya's Zionist/neoCON advisers (Wolfy, Feith, Perle, Abrams, Libby, Bolton) wanted to get bases there to protect Israel. In so doing, we pursued the wrong bad Islamics.

http://www.csmonitor.com/specials/neocon/spheresInfluence.h tml

Presidente Jorge also got lured into Rx Care For Seniors, 90% of whom needed no such help... it will mushroom into a monster boondoggle.

Heck, Hal D. ought to love Dubya! He acted substantially like a big guvment Çrat! That was a key thing (CINO's/RINO's) that caused conservatives to turn on Republicans... Dubya teed it up for the left because "change" really meant to many no more neoCONS and ineptitude.

David
"Date: May 4, 2009 - 10:37 AM EST
Hal Donahue
Conservatism never fails, works every time it is implemented. Just been a while since it was tried."

This is exactly what the conservative Tories told our founders back in their day. And a major point must be made; extreme conservatism has NEVER worked and sadly that is where Reaganism has led us. Ron would be so sad at what was done in his name. Today, if alive, you would be calling Reagan a RINO

Hal Donahue
Conservatism never fails, works every time it is implemented. Just been a while since it was tried.

Joel-De Oppresso Liber Said:
"I have said before, and will say again, being popular does not equal being right. Usually just the opposite."

A perfect example of that is the very popular Adolph Hitler in the 1930s Germany. In fact, it seems that Zerobama has many of Adolph's traits:

1. an extreme case of narcissism
2. great disdain for anyone disagreeing with his policies
3. a desire to create a national youth group to push his policies
4. an expressed desire to create a national police force ala the Gestapo

ibs
The Republicans need to seperate themselves from Bush and McCain.

If and when the Republicans return to conservative values .. that's when you'll see the wind change.

David
"Date: May 4, 2009 - 8:54 AM EST
Hal Donahue
"You represent the reactionary remnant of a defeated "ism"

I have seen you write some stupid things before, but this is rich. Perhaps you can remember 1994 and the very real collapse of the Dems one cold November night. It happens, but to write off as demised an idea is foolish, but then ......."

Don't confuse 1994 when you had a plan based upon conservatism and leaders. Now you no plan, conservatism has demonstratively failed in a massive way and only fringe leaders like limbawl

Glad you put in that question mark
Don't count on a change in the wind. You give the American people too much credit. That is what got us into this mess. Obama and the Dems realized a long time ago that the average American is just as stupid as anyplace else in the world. We are seeing that now. Why expect many to wake up now.

Liberals also understand human nature much better than conservatives. They are able to play upon hearts and minds and convince the gullible, ill informed, and downright stupid (and none of these seem to be in short supply). At some time Republicans will have to realize they are playing with cheaters, liars and con men and to expect the average dolt to pick up on it is likely futile. I know this is an elitist sort of attitude but at some point one has to come to terms with the terrible gullibility of the American voter.

Obama
He is a fluent speaker-especially with a teleprompter. He is also appealing personally to many. He is clever in using his assets to push his programs. Could it be that the sight and sound obscures the message? His policies are the problem not his personal appearance, his voice, his body language and his rhetoric.
All that plus to adulation of the MSM makes him formidable adversary.
It may be the populace is for these big government ideas, but I don't believe that they will like the results. Of course, in some circles results don't count, it is only good intentions that count.
Donald W. Bales

I WIILL-WILL YOU
jeb bush and john mccain are on a "teaching tour". i am calling on all tea party conservatives to attend, when this group comes to your town, and have very important questions ready to ask them. make sure bush and mccain know who you are and don't let mccain mealy-mouth out of answering the question.

I WIILL-WILL YOU
jeb bush and john mccain are on a "teaching tour". i am calling on all tea party conservatives to attend, when this group comes to your town, and have very important questions ready to ask them. make sure bush and mccain know who you are and don't let mccain mealy-mouth out of answering the question.

Hal Donahue
"You represent the reactionary remnant of a defeated "ism"

I have seen you write some stupid things before, but this is rich. Perhaps you can remember 1994 and the very real collapse of the Dems one cold November night. It happens, but to write off as demised an idea is foolish, but then .......

OBAMA'S NEW WAR OF DIVERSION
What is Obama's new war of diversion replacing the war on terror? Click ApolloSpeaks for the answer.

Were I not 100% appalled
by the total disregard for the freedom of American public this administration demonstrates, I would be disgusted by the arrogance and bravado of the man who said he was going to bring us all together. Accomplishing a "healing" is not a job for John Wayne.

And more disappointing than the lies Hussein tells to accomplish his goals is the percentage of the public that continues to believe him.

SFA1973: doofass-the-dimwit doesn't

realize that Obozo's regime is already failing, and in record time...




Well,
Off to work. Back later.

Doofass:
You are the truly illiterate. Naming him the head of the Party was something your her, Obumf^ck did, and like a good little, mindless, leftist bigoted, and hating robot, you repeat that canard.

And Obumf6ck believes in capitalism about as much as Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels did.

Oh, since you believe in giving more and more of your income to the government, return your alleged retirement pay. BTW, is 1990 still recent?

SFA1973
"Date: May 4, 2009 - 7:36 AM EST...is about as hard left as it gets. He truly believes that the government should run everything..."

Wrong he believes in capitalism but NOT laissez faire capitalism of your version of extreme conservatism

"...BTW: I don't consider Limbaugh to be the leader of the Republican Party..."

He caused EVERY Republican who opposed him to apologize. THAT makes him the REAL head of the Republican Party

"Also, ...be reactionary."

You represent the reactionary remnant of a defeated "ism"

Jack:
Washington was referring to the differences between Democratic-Republican Party which was passionately in favor of France and the French Revolution, and the Federalists who were equally as passionate in their support of Britain. You are taking his words massively out of context.

oracle1
"Date: May 4, 2009 - 7:26 AM EST
the Pied Piper of "change",,,Very few catch this--> after 100 days, the ObaMessiah's DISapproval ratings are higher than Dubya's were. He will not wear well. The tea parties are a real sign of genuine angst by some who are paying close attention. Middle America does NOT believe in huge, irreponsible guvment spending, and not really in big govt."

Two things this is not irresponsible spending the American people will see actual gain from much of these "investments". Second, you conservatives are know as the party of big government not the democratic party. Oh, the tea parties? Almost all reactionary rage by a fringe upset over losing the trust of the American people

Doofass:
Obumf^ck is about as hard left as it gets. He truly believes that the government should run everything. He and his Dumbvsh1tcrap minions in Congress are intent on imposing government control of every aspect of the US economy, society, and beliefs.

BTW: I don't consider Limbaugh to be the leader of the Republican Party. That's another red herring thrown out by you leftist haters, and, Doofass, you are a hater and a bigot.

Also, you consider anyone slioghtly to the right of Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov, Lev Davidovich Bronshtein, and Iosif Vissarionovich Dzhugashvili to be reactionary.

But the ObaMessiah IS hard left
re:
You lose you audience completely calling President Obama "hard left" indeed Americans would not like any extremist.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

The Glowbama was THE most liberal Senator among 100!!! That is REALLY, REALLY saying something! That reckoning was NOT from the right, but from proud leftist groups like ADA.

It is HAL D. who is tinkling into a strong wind here-- not Hugh Hewitt.

the Pied Piper of "change"
re:
"The unaligned voters of America thought they might be electing a post-partisan, post-ideological president but already know --and will learn again and again-- that what they actually got was a hard left ideologue with a wonderful reading voice. Bait-and-switch has never gone over very well with Americans."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Very few catch this--> after 100 days, the ObaMessiah's DISapproval ratings are higher than Dubya's were. He will not wear well. The tea parties are a real sign of genuine angst by some who are paying close attention. Middle America does NOT believe in huge, irreponsible guvment spending, and not really in big govt.

Hugh
"...The unaligned voters of America thought they might be electing a post-partisan, post-ideological president but already know --and will learn again and again-- that what they actually got was a hard left ideologue with a wonderful reading voice..."

You lose you audience completely calling President Obama "hard left" indeed Americans would not like any extremist. While you sounded rational, you use the words of extremism and lose your audience except for your fringe base.

The American people realize that the reactionary Limbaugh leads the Republican Party and the entire conservative movement. The American people realize that the Republican Party is the party of no and has completely rebuffed President Obama's attempts to work together. Until you reign in an grasp control of your most extreme elements, the conservative movement is dead and you are looking at a 1932 and 1936 template for the next elections.

.bradkz
After a thousand years, the religious social issues of Rome were waning. At that point, Constantine adopted a new version of religion, and Rome proceeded to dominate Europe for another thousand years.

No great ruling nation in history lasted more than 70 years, without religious social issues as the principle sustaining force.

We non-church goers need to recognize that fact. Then, if you can come up with something else, have at it.

My suggestion is for both sides to drop all the obfuscations -- that would be a start.

Laughable again
All the sour-grapes, Republican scare-mongering is entertaining and laughable these days. Even if you COULD convince me, a centrist, that Obama is leading us down the wrong road and is weakening America with his aggressive agenda, there is no credible leadership or plan from the right... just a lot of whiny clowns (Hannity, Limaugh, Bohner, Palin, Graham... Bachman? Really, Bachman?) that just seem petulant and trivial. Reid and Pelosi may not be the sharpest tools in the shed, but too bad for you, Obama seems competent and effective in a way that nobody on the right even touches. He is a real leader, a serious person, and I trust his intentions.

Dear winguts: Drop the religious social issues, get yourself a serious leader and a plan that is more substantive than "cut taxes," and then you'll have some credibility. Until then, your right-wing bleatings are just kind of cute.

Yeah, Right, Hugh
20 percent of Americans call themselves Republicans. Change is in the air all right, it's just not blowing the way you think it is.

Tammy
Funny how you assume he 'has' an audience. If you could go to an event like this you'll find its a true back and forth dialogue. He is listening.

Assu me makes one out of everyone.

Curious, you are here because you are?
a.missing real content from lib blogs
b.playing devils advocate
c.acorn
d.are not sure of the left
e.just really curious

Change in the wind
I am not certain the wind ever changed. Obama had to lie and say he was a moderate. Under Rahm Emanual the democratic party pretended to look conservative (look at Newsweek article on Rahm) and all of the people he hand picked to win in 2006 and 2008.
Global warming has now become a dumb issue (it always was). Socialism is and always will be a curse word in America. A liberal is now a progressive (if you have to change your name you aren't well liked, something conservatives never have done).
During the election the media silenced the crazies in the liberal party (and their leader's gaffes). Joe Biden was considered honest and not a gaffe machine idiot. No one knew how crazy Nancy Pelosi is (you don't have to look too hard). The liberal newspapers have been declining for past 5 to 10 years. Did I miss anything?

Republicans lost because they became big government just like liberal and Rahm is a genius. Democrats are going to win if there is no difference. They don't get crunitized, they are loved by the media and they cheat to raise money (750 million in an election (2 to 3 times more than any other election)). I am certain it had nothing to do with the internet loophole.

If you ask the majority of people the differences between McCain (the one that was going to take money out of elections) and Obama they couldn't name one. The election was a closer than anyone thought it was going to be.

Well written Mr. Hewitt
As political cycles go this is the first in my 60 years were I've actually been concerned for the Republics health and well being at a presidential change with such a progressive (socialist) congress. Many in the country are expressing their fear and discomfort with record ammo/gun sales and nationwide TaxTea parties. The icing on the cake is the cheering section of MSM with a total loss of jounalistic integrity and truth and what we are hearing from the ultra left anarchists.

Many are fearful of the countries direction and lack of national rational discucsion of policy.

Repubs must return to a strong big tent Conservative comittment or further slip into irrelevancy. This can only be done by clearly defining the pro's and con's of the two sides.

No Representation in NorCal

George Washington on Israel
George Washington on Israel

"A passionate attachment of one nation for another produces a variety of evils. Sympathy for the favorite nation, facilitating the illusion of an imaginary common interest in cases where no real common interest exists, and infusing into one the enmities of the other, betrays the former into a participation in the quarrels and wars of the latter without adequate inducement or justification." ~George Washington Farewell Address

"The nation which indulges toward another habitual hatred or habitual fondness is in some degree a slave. It is a slave to its animosity or to its affection, either of which is sufficient to lead it astray from its duty and its interests." ~ George Washington

"Peace, commerce and honest friendship with all nations; entangling alliances with none." ~ Thomas Jefferson

George Washington on Israel
George Washington on Israel

"A passionate attachment of one nation for another produces a variety of evils. Sympathy for the favorite nation, facilitating the illusion of an imaginary common interest in cases where no real common interest exists, and infusing into one the enmities of the other, betrays the former into a participation in the quarrels and wars of the latter without adequate inducement or justification." ~George Washington Farewell Address

"The nation which indulges toward another habitual hatred or habitual fondness is in some degree a slave. It is a slave to its animosity or to its affection, either of which is sufficient to lead it astray from its duty and its interests." ~ George Washington

"Peace, commerce and honest friendship with all nations; entangling alliances with none." ~ Thomas Jefferson

Another perspective worth considering
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/political_co mmentary/commentary_by_scott_rasmussen/is_the_beltway_gop_i rrelevant

This article provides another perspective worth considering. Scott Rasmussen has a remarkable ability to take poll data and interpret it in an objective, meaningful way (as opposed to how the media uses their polls to distort). This article provides some clues as to what it will take to restore the country's overwhelmingly-conservative values to power in this country. Everyone on this forum, conservative or liberal, should read this commentary.

I don't believe polls
I think poll information is distributed to create the poll's results. In other words announce one polls finding, Obama liked and then another about policy. When another poll comes along it's primarily - is Obama liked? And then the policies are separated from the man and associated with dims in general or DC in particular which can be included as hate GOP too rhetoric.

Bottom line - Headlines shout Obama Liked 80%. On another note 49% disagree with trillion dollar budget.

Well the Tea Parties are directed at the number one spender, Oblaba and his divisive condescension plus the two dim bulb dims, Peloser and Harry Fraud. And with any luck we can turn this country on them district by district.

Hewitt
Just because you have an audience, don't assume
that there is any significant change in the
wind.
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