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Monday, December 15, 2008
Dinesh D'Souza :: Townhall.com Columnist
Run, Peter Singer, Run
by Dinesh D'Souza
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This, I said, is what makes Singer different. He is an honest atheist in that he recognizes that you can’t have Christian morality without its transcendent foundation. I identified Singer with the philosopher Nietzsche’s project to go beyond the “death of God” and eradicate all Christian values—including equal dignity and the preciousness of human life—from the West.

Singer, I said, is an advocate of comprehensive secularism. To discover the consequences of this secularism, I said, we must look to twentieth-century regimes that have actively sought to get rid of God and Christianity. Specifically, the Communist regimes of Stalin, Mao, and the Nazi regime provide the clearest indication of what truly God-free societies look like.

I noted that some of Singer’s critics had accused him of being a Nazi and Singer himself writes that he is frequently prevented from speaking in Germany. Singer has vociferously protested the equation of his views with those of the Nazis, and I said he was right to make this distinction. After all, I pointed out, the Nazis favored state-sponsored genocide while Singer advocated free market homicide.

Remarkably Singer’s only defense against this argument was to point out that he had lost some of his relatives in the Holocaust, and to note that religious as well as atheist regimes had committed historical atrocities. Not once did Singer attempt to defend his shocking views. Nor did he contest the Darwinian and atheist foundation for those views. Instead, Singer went right back to the problem of pain and suffering. A just and compassionate God, he said, would never permit such disasters as earthquakes, hurricanes and cancer. Consequently there is no good God presiding over human affairs. Therefore if we are going to have morality we will have to develop morality without God.

I am giving only an abbreviated account of what was, from start to finish, a lively and wide-ranging debate. Audience applause for me was tepid in the beginning—no surprise, since I was on Singer’s home turf—but grew louder throughout the evening. This suggested that I had gained ground in a generally hostile setting. Even so, Singer emailed me after the debate to say that his philosophy students considered him the winner. I resisted the temptation to ask him to take another poll after he had handed out his semester grades.

I regard Singer and Christopher Hitchens as two of the most effective advocates of atheism in the United States, and perhaps anywhere. In Britain, of course, there is Richard Dawkins. I like to debate these men in order to show that theism in general, and Christianity in particular, can withstand the best that the opposition has to offer.

Hitchens, to his credit, is always ready to rumble. Dawkins, however, has shown himself to be a coward by refusing to defend his aggressively-articulated views in open debate. And now Singer has twice shown up at debates with his running shoes on. So with Dawkins hiding under his desk and Singer sprinting for cover, is modern atheism losing its nerve?

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Dinesh D'Souza's new book Life After Death: The Evidence is published by Regnery.
 
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Can we have "just a little bit" of evil?
"[H]e had come to debate whether God existed or not. For Singer, the existence of pain and suffering in the world was enough to show God’s non-existence."
Based upon the above, it appears that Singer believes that an existence without any pain or suffering proves, or at least supports, the existence of God. Such an existence would effectively be devoid of any and all measure of evil. If human beings were given the choice to never know, experience or taste any measure of evil, would we do so?
It seems that the proposition Singer makes ignores the nature of the problem of evil. It is not one of those things were you can opt for "just a little bit." The nature of it is to be seductive and consuming. Saying "yes" to just a little bit, is saying yes to evil.
In reality, it is our human nature to want to say yes, some for just a little bit, some for more, but we all say "yes." Given the nature of evil, everything is to be consumed in pain and destruction.
The more amazing question is: how is it that despite all of the evil in the world, it has not been all consuming and has not destroyed or conquered amazing self-less acts of love?
Can we have "just a little bit of evil"? No, we can't. But, this does not mean that God does not exist.

What is D'Souza doing?!
I usually LOVE D'Souza. One of my favorite books is his "What's So Great About America," which I highly recommend. But here D'Souza is misrepresenting Singer's views on purpose, and it seems to be Singer's arguments that are stronger overall.

First, OF COURSE Singer didn't talk about his ethical views on this debate - that wasn't the subject of the debate! He talks about and debates his views all the time when it's the subject of the event.

Second, Singer's "argument against the existence of God" was NOT, as D'Souza claims, against the existence of any such entity. It was specifically against the concept of a merciful God, which is why suffering was relevant.

Third, since Singer's views are so often misinterpreted, I'd recommend taking a few moments to read some of Singer's own words on an issue or two, like humanitarian aid:

http://people.brandeis.edu/~teuber/singermag.html

...and animal rights:

http://www.webster.edu/~corbetre/philosophy/animals/singer- text.html

Then you can object to Singer's reasoning!

Cheers,
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