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Thursday, July 30, 2009
Debra J. Saunders :: Townhall.com Columnist
No Thin Line Between Murder and Hate
by Debra J. Saunders
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When the Senate passed a federal hate-crimes measure by a 63-28 earlier this month, Sen. Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., proclaimed, "This legislation will help to address the serious and growing problem of hate crimes."

I'm baffled. Washington passed the first federal hate-crimes bill in 1968 and 45 states have enacted hate-crime laws. This latest bill, the Matthew Shepard Hate Crimes Prevention Act, expanded the list of hate crimes -- which originally focused on attacks based on the victims' race, color, religion or national origin -- to include those targeted because of their gender, sexual orientation, gender identity or disability.

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If hate-crime laws prevent hate crimes, shouldn't hate crimes be shrinking, not growing?

Forgive the question, because there's nothing glib about any crime of violence. The 1998 torture-murder of gay University of Wyoming student Matthew Shepard -- who was found tied to a fence, battered and shoeless in the cold -- was so cruel that it took Shepard three days to die.

Attorneys for one of Shepard's killers, Aaron McKinney, tried to introduce a "gay panic" defense, to explain why a crime that started as a robbery ended in death. The judge refused to allow the bogus defense and a jury found McKinney guilty of felony murder. To avoid the death penalty, his accomplice had pleaded guilty to the killing. Both are serving double life sentences.

It's hard to understand how a federal hate-crimes law could send a stronger message than life in prison. Or a stronger message than the response of security guards at the Holocaust Museum, who, after white supremacist James Von Brunn fatally shot guard Stephen T. Johns in June, shot Von Brunn in the face. With or without the Shepard act, Von Brunn could face the death penalty if convicted of first-degree murder. Continued...

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To answer you question,"Who ACTUALLY has been arrested for THINKING badly about gay people, rather than actually assaulting them?"

There are a number of pastors in Canada facing trail for doing just that. They stated that being gay was wrong, and it was thought that making that statement it would causing other people to roit and cause damage to the community. That was one reason they used in Canada to get their hate speech law passed. Which is punishable up to five years in prison. For saying that being gay is wrong in the eyes of God from the puplit in their church. FIVE YEARS FOR PREACHING THE WORD OF GOD. NOW PROVE ME WRONG, IF YOU CAN.

c'MON people!
Well, I see that regardless of this legislation running through for over ten years...there is still a MONSTROUS ignorance about the intents and purposes of the legislation.

Motive is always a standard for determining the intent of a crime. That's why 'special circumstances' are attached or degree of crime carries greater punishment.


Hate crimes have a criteria too, because of THEIR SCOPE.
The only reason why such unbelievable paranoia and stupidity is displayed here is because of the group this legislation is including.


I'll ask AGAIN: in what other crime does the defense 'he made me do it', EVER work?
For what OTHER victims is law enforcement likely to be as abusive as the perps?
In WHAT other crime, does a jury or judge let a killer off because of what the victim WAS if it was ONLY about the crime and not the victim's background?

Who ACTUALLY has been arrested for THINKING badly about gay people, rather than actually assaulting them?
Name somebody, who went to jail and DID time, for what they THOUGHT.

If you were right, the bunch of you would be arrested today for the thoughts expressed here, right?

BTW, Saunders...it took Matt S. FIVE days to die. She couldn't even get THAT right.
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