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Friday, March 27, 2009
David Limbaugh :: Townhall.com Columnist
Budget Smoke and Mirrors: Where's the Outrage?
by David Limbaugh
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There has doubtlessly been great anxiety about the economy, but I think even greater anxiety exists over what President Barack Obama is doing and planning to do to this country. We've always had economic downturns, and we've always recovered, but we've never deliberately planned to spend ourselves into bankruptcy, from which we may not be able to recover.

True, our smorgasbord of entitlements has threatened our long-term solvency for some time, and reckless politicians have been negligent in refusing to reform them and, instead, have just created more. But Obama takes profligate spending to entirely new levels while pretending to be a fiscal hawk.

With all due respect to Mr. Obama, I don't recall ever seeing another president whine so much about the mess his predecessor left him, disgracing the motto of former Democratic President Harry Truman that "the buck stops here." Though childish and unpresidential, the worst part about it is that he's using it as a bogus justification to do much worse.

Seriously, how many times are we going to have to hear him say, "Republicans have a short memory, because as I recall, I'm inheriting a $1.3 trillion annual deficit from them"?

Stop right there. This is grossly misleading on many levels. In the first place, President Bush's budget deficits were declining nicely each year before the subprime crisis hit in 2008 (fiscal year 2004: $412.7 billion; FY 2005: $318.3 billion; FY 2006: $248.2 billion; FY 2007: $160.7 billion; and FY 2008: $454.8 billion). Second, Democrats took control of Congress in 2006 and thus share blame. Third, the 2009 budget, upward of $1.3 trillion, contained the extraordinary bailout and rescue expenditures, which Obama voted for. Fourth, eight months of this FY 2009 budget that Obama is blaming on President Bush will occur on Obama's watch (Jan. 20 through Oct. 1, 2009). Fifth, but most important, Obama is seeking to establish this atypical, artificially bloated FY 2009 as the new baseline from which his budgets should be compared, falsely implying that President Bush incrementally increased the deficit each year until it reached the annual figure of $1.3 trillion (the above numbers show the opposite) and that it will remain that high unless he -- Obama -- brings it down. Apparently smiling at our collective stupidity, he thus plans to disguise his increases in annual spending as decreases and take credit for cutting the budget in half by the end of his term.

When we cut through the smoke and mirrors, we see that Obama's plan is to ratchet up annualized spending to rates greatly exceeding President Bush's budgets. The Heritage Foundation reports that President Bush ran budget deficits that averaged $300 billion annually (see figures above), while Obama's are projected to average more than $600 billion, "even after the economy recovers and the troops return home from Iraq."

Obama also doesn't mention, and then dissembles when asked about it, that after his first term -- in the so-called out years -- his deficit numbers start rising even more precipitously, to some $1.2 trillion -- almost the level of FY 2009. All one really needs to do to understand Obama's unconscionable plan to bankrupt America is to look at a simple chart comparing his deficits with those of President Bush, prepared by The Heritage Foundation.

Obama should look at this egregious $1.3 trillion figure (some say it's substantially more than that) with horror, instantly promise never to allow it to happen again, and have extreme confidence he could fulfill that promise merely by cutting out the extraordinary items. But he's doing just the opposite, with fraud in the inducement and malice aforethought.

His ideology compels him to grow government exponentially, national deficits and debt be damned. Oh, sure, he tells us he has to spend these enormous amounts to stimulate the economy, but he knows the vast majority of his expenditures aren't even designed to stimulate the economy, and he's also aware that the economy will turn around anyway in due course, without government intermeddling on the spending side.

Adding insult to injury, he's claiming he's saving $2 trillion in spending, when the truth is that a great portion of these "savings" will result from withdrawing our troops from Iraq, which was also going to happen anyway. Another portion involves trillions of dollars in tax increases, which have never before been considered "savings." By the time he's done -- if he serves two terms -- he will have almost doubled the national debt, according to conservative estimates by the Congressional Budget Office, and we're supposed to thank him for impoverishing and enslaving our children. This is what Obama calls "A New Era of Responsibility."

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Orwellian
The Obama administration’s budget is called--I'm not making this up--"A New Era of Responsibility, Renewing America's Promise."

So long, America. It's been a good ride.

Smoke and Mirrors
First of all, I disagree with Mr. Limbaugh’s Premise of smoke and mirrors. The Smoking Nazis will NEVER allow any smoke inside a Federal Building ;).

However Mr. Limbaugh in so many words asks a question I have asked REPEATEDLY and has been met with silence. WHY was Deficit Spending MORONIC on January 19th and GENIUS on Jan 21st?

OBAMA FEDERALIZING USA POLICE & BANKS
FEMA is informing every police department in the USA about FEDERALIZING them, the banks, EMERGENCY ROOMS and confiscation of weapons during AUGUST and SEPTEMBER!

GO TO: http://www.resistnet.com/semperfi
to watch the videos for proof!

Clown Show
The Gangsta-in-Chief says "I'm inheriting a $1.3 trillion annual deficit from them" as though he opposed bailoutapalooza every step of the way, when in fact he voted for every bailout package to come down the pike.

For the sake of argument, let's just pretend that the Messiah has zero culpability for the deficit he has "inherited." Wouldn't the logical, prudent course of action be to reverse course, rather than stomp on the accelerator?

In one breath, His Highness laments the horrible deficits he has "inherited," and in the next breath he tells us that our salvation lies in creating deficits that will dwarf the one he has supposedly inherited.

He is banking on the idiocy of the 52% of the electorate that voted for him, and you know what? It's looking more and more like a pretty safe bet.

Gutless child
Well i'm i'm going to going to fix the ah,ah, problem that I, I inherited from the previous term, I mean administration.

We won running on hope and change, whatever the hell that means, hahaha.

So far we are doing a great job according to Oprah and I'm planning on watching some b-ball this weekend, and next weekend too.

I am a little tired from working so hard and may need to take some time off and maybe go to the Masters, or something like that. The hell with the Easter egg hunt.

I am very important and have turned over most of the policy making to Nancy and Frank, I mean Nancy and Harry.

Everything is the other parties fault especially Bush. Had I known this job was so tough I might not have run, accept I still don't like Hillary and kicking her big butt was the best time I have ever had, I think.

So it's off to the bowling lanes to work on my game.

Where's the Outrage?
There is none - the American people continue to be in a stupor; oblivious to the outrage unfolding in front of them and complacent. There had better be some real outrage soon or we will find ourselves camelpooling to work.

The fashion industry will embrace turbans and...say, which way is Mecca?

All Correct
David is right on with this article. The problem is, who will get a chance to ask Obuma about any of this? The MSM certainly will not, and anyone who his highness thinks might ask anything that may question the idiot will never be called on in a press conference.
The MSM sold this country down the road, Obuma is just the resulting tool used to do it.
Start cleaning those guns people, you may need them much sooner than you think!

Daved
You are spot on with this. For me it goes beyond rage. I will wait for Nov. of 2010, after that, I'm not so sure. This one we put in the white house is a tyrant in sheeps clothing, and until we the people do something, and our replican. reps. stand up like they have a pair, nothing will stop him. I would rather fight and die then live as a slave to the gov. No folks I believe we must fight for good candidates in our primarys, and caucuses. The party be d@med, we need people that put the good of the country first.
Kirk

Obama Myth
Change, as in modification, orchestrated by a man named Barrack Hussein Obama scares the hell out of me. This is a man who came to us on the liberal express. There are no switches on that track - all of the turns are left.
Americans have been duped again by Aunt Libby, missing the point and the truth by a country mile; apparently thinking that it will cost less to cover that mile now that this innovative, free thinking man of vision ousted the status quo - managed for eight impossibly tumultuous years by George W. Bush. Our great liberal thinkers would have us apologizing for our existence.
So, what is the point that Americans missed? What is the truth? One need only look at the truth to expose the lie. Obama's victory is nothing more than an elaborate shell game, funded by a liberal alliance that embraces contradiction and deceit. Eyes closed to the truth, we remain oblivious to an enormous fraud, financed by greed and clandestine connections.
Obama was funded by the
biggest "Laundromat" scam in history. The dollars originated in one huge basket and were simply laundered in smaller batches. In comes one overflowing laundry basket and out go a thousand smaller ones. A grand illusion; brilliantly conceived by the liberal collective and foreign interests...all with an eye on a bottom line that could be just about anything.

That Obama is a man of color and therefore regarded as a reflection of the interests of common Americans is convenient camouflage. Sure, he will get a few token bills through Congress, leading the people to believe that the "messiah" has finally arrived. Nonetheless, a wolf in sheep's clothing is still a wolf.

Say hello to your future, Americans. Barrack Obama will speed you there with some smooth talking vigor. And while you're embracing your new leader, say goodbye to your dreams. §

Kirk
Well said.

The party be d@mned indeed. And look at who's leading it now--a guy out of whose mouth the first words were to attack one of his own.

We need to do a serious house-cleaning in the next primaries. Nothing will make me happier than seeing the McCains, Snowes, Specters and Collins' of the world thrown out on their bums. Ditto for party leadership.

I blame an ignorant electorate, the media (plus the cause-effect relationship between the two) and a truly inept opposition for the mess we're in now. I am so disgusted--America revolted for much less than what's going on now.

DEMS AND SELECTIVE BLINDSIGHTEDNESS
THE REALITIES OF FISCAL BLINDSIGHTEDNESS

prior to 911 when DEMOCRATS WERE IN OFFICE the Usa sent our law enforcement to Yeman to arrest Osama bin laden. The Yeman ambassador promptly got into a 'turf battle" with USA law enforcement to claim the USA LAW ENFORCEMENT was "infringing" on YEMAN ambassadors "turf".

So what happened OUR USA LAW ENFORCEMENTS WERE TOLD by DEMOCRATS--to go home empty handed. The DEMOCRAT Administration didn't know at the time their irresponsible actions had paved the way for terriorist to make plans and lay groundwork for 911.

The Wall Street journal at that time printed a small article on it and to the recent it has been discussed but apparantly NOT ENOUGH.

I submit for your reading NY Times 1999 - MUST READ!

Well, it???s about time, the mainstream ???brainwashing media??? is finally coming out with the truth on this meltdown???

September 30, 1999
Fannie Mae Eases Credit To Aid Mortgage Lending by steven A Holmes

PRESIDENT BILL CLINTON: “I think the responsibility that the Democrats have may rest more in resisting any efforts by Republicans in the Congress or by me when I was President to put some standards and tighten up a little on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.”

SO, DEM BROUGHT ON 911 AND MELTDOWN thru their FAULTY LENDING PRACTICES and now are once again all FLEECING OF AMERICA thru this bailout bandwagon!


SELECTIVE BLINDSIGHTEDNESS--PART B
CLINTON IN 2000 gave his blessing to the whole globalist thing on the UN "INTERNATIONAL CRIMINAL COURT (ICC). The DEMOCRATS all along want to make US citizens SERVANTS TO THE UN AS OUR GOVERNMENT instead of a country governed by WE THE PEOPLE.

What they are really after is for the US to submit to the will of the UN and it's International criminal court. What they want is for the US to relinquish it's SOVEREIGNTY relagating WE THE PEOPLE of the US to the status of servants to the UN INSTEAD of being governed by WE THE PEOPLE

***THIS would for example entail that any US servicemen serving in let's say Pakistan could be apprehended by local Muslim authorities for an offense, real or imagined slammed into the ICC and flown to the Hage, netherlands where they would rot for months waiting for trial and done ENTIRELY without due process. they would get not trial and no confronting of accusers, No protection from double jeopardy and no unanimous verdict for a conviction.

Incidentally, under the new UN mislabeled SHARIA LAW implemented entals the *** above. So, you know they don't like us.

Send them all tea bags
Mr. Obama resides at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave., DC 20500 (don't call him president); 455 Senate Dirksen Building, DC, 20500; and House of Representatives, DC 20510.

I sent mine today and will send some from my dead parents on Monday. After all, ACORN registers dead dogs and teenagers, so in the spirit of Northern NJ politics, I'll send some tea bags from real dead people.

Bush deficits were bad economics
O spending is *investment.*

Keep writing Reps. in DC to stick together and keep saying NOOOOOOO.

They stopped card check in the Sen. when Spector who is afraid of a primary battle in PA next year finally decided to play Rep. once more.

Congrat them for acting with unity as a party for once and keep their feet to the fire to ignore media and lib. whining about the need for bipartisanship and compromise, which always really means the left getting its own way.

If you just blog here and blow off steam, the pols don't hear you.

I have the same chart but from a
different source - http://www.americanthinker.com:

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2009/03/the_mess_he_inh erited.html

I think it is a great representation. And the really good news is that the Heritage Foundation, the Washington Post, and American Thinker are publishing it. The more exposure we can get the more people get informed (as in more people get more informed - both).

The average projected deficit is more than doubled anything previous. Where will it end?

I once had about $100K in a retirement fund. It is now less than 1/2 that - so much for retirement. on the plus side, I still have a job. Many other don't.

For every sale on the market, someone else buys and someone made a killing on the the falling market. Someone on the inside either knew it was going to happen or manipulated it to happen. I have my suspicions who. Who pushed for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to remain un-regulated? Who pushed CRA into the center of banking circles? Who insisted that no regulation of these entities was needed that they were sound? Who are the multi-millionaires in Government today?

Kirk
"No folks I believe we must fight for good candidates in our primarys, and caucuses. The party be d@med, we need people that put the good of the country first."

Before I get to my response, what is happening in the Senate race there in MN?

I agree with you, Kirk, that we have to fight for the good candidates. However, one thing I won't do is vote for any Democrat come November 2010. We get the Dems out and it will be much more difficult for Obama to accomplish anything. Unfortunately, 2010 is so far away, and Obama can do a lot of damage between now and then.


Nasrullah
Obama myth...reply #9

SPOT ON!
It's exactly what I believe and you describe it perfectly.

smoke and mirrors spending
I am still waiting for one of the trolls to answer the simple question of how corrupt land deal reid's $10 billion pork project to build a railroad from LA to vegas benefits the country or grows the economy.

Or for that matter how any pork project does anything but enrich the special interest groups that own these crooked congress critters


Anyone
remember the movie with Jason Robards, 'Something Wicked This Way Cometh'?
These last two months seem like something out of the movie with that insidious creeping black smog coming closer and closer. We are all saying we will vote them out come 2010, but will we have elections by then. This is all moving so fast it's mind boggling, it's actually right out of the pits of H..L, and that
person in the W.H. is a disciple.
What's so frustrating is so many of the Republicans just go along when they have to know the mood of this country. Maybe calling the 9% majority DemonRATS isn't so far from the truth, they are acting like they all have a
busload of 'company' residing with in them.

The Teleprompter -In-Chief
We all know Obama needs his crutch to make a speech. We have seen him trying to articulate a few sentences without his prop.Um,er,ah,etc.

We know all this but what we don't know is why. I think he needs the prop because it is giving him a message someone else wrote.

I have said many times he is a salesman ,a frontman,if you will. This plot to overthrow the government was hatched long ago and it has slowly been perfected.

It was convenient for Bush to ask congress to give Paulson money for the bailout. That way,both administrations would be complicit in the overthrow. How many times have we heard Obama say he 'inherited this mess'?

The congress over the years brought this on themselves by interferring with the monetary system,businesses and Wall Street. We, who kept electing incompetent people share that blame and we will share the pain that follows.

smoke...there must be fire!
You are all RIGHT! As the Dems took Control in 2006 - we have been all falling off their turnip truck like a bunch of - well - turnips! Who do these people think the American public are anyway? Dim-Dems like they are? Obama promised to 'reach across the bi-partisan table' in his campaining speeches but Have YOU been touched yet? It feels more like a Slap in the face to Our Great Nation, Our Constitution, Our Freedoms, and Our (and Our Childrens') Futures. We are in extremely Scary times no doubt - we must Vote Congress Ourtand Set Term Limits. We must vote on the Local Level and get the Dim-Dems out! We must save our Country...

Labels
Do you guys realize how many names you call people in your posts? It's like you're not articulate enough to write your problems in detail, so you use name-calling. Nyah-nyah-nyah. It makes us look really sad.

Not Static
What happens right after a government overspends to try to stimulate an economy?

Mr. Limbaugh is spot on!
Why can't anyone see the train wreck that is just moments away? Do they want to wait until the wreck has actually happened so that they can all stand around, staring at the carnage, the wreckage that one was the most amazing, free country in the world? Do they want to wait and then say, "Gee, I didn't think THAT was going to happen." How can people be so blind? They've lost all sense of right and wrong, free and unfree. It is a simple mentality of "Take care of me so I don't have to do it myself."

New Era of Responsiblity...
I have the link at my blog and encourage everyone to read it before they read anything else. It gives great insight into the socialistic thought process of this president and the liberal left.

Latest Poll Numbers
CABLE NEWS RACE
THU., MARCH 26, 2009

FOXNEWS O'REILLY 3,420,000
FOXNEWS HANNITY 2,987,000
FOXNEWS BECK 2,374,000
FOXNEWS GRETA 2,160,000
FOXNEWS BAIER 1,940,000
FOXNEWS SHEP 1,888,000
MSNBC OLBERMANN 1,322,000
CNNHN GRACE 1,300,000
MSNBC MADDOW 1,208,000
CNN KING 1,144,000
CNN COOPER 1,118,000

Mr. David Limbaugh
How can most of the citizens be outraged when their news sources are lying to them. I want to know how the media got bought. I want to know who owns our media? OBAMA pulls these ridiculously obvious propaganda stunts and the news follows him around like my dog waiting for a treat. What happened to our free press? Do the outlets only hire biased fools? Like university professors or do the owners only allow socialist propaganda to be printed?

Socialism?
I'll bet that if asked, you couldn't define socialism. It's just a pejorative term that you picked up.

Obama dumps "GAS" on the fire !

as "ROME" is burning: Obama is dumping gas on the fire: giggling, laughing his head off at his useful idiots! "gotacha"

His useful idiots, the illiterate parasites, leeches, etc. are just gushing with gratitude for the "WARMTH" during this era of global freezing. (they can't even read!) (they are addicted to HOLLYWOOD)

Hitler with 90% approval rating:::
did the same thing: blamed to inflame the hate and anger at everything and everyone who was NOT RESPONSIBLE: Destroy Those who could stop hime: He had 100% media control:::::::::::::HE :Organized and directed the vigilante groups (ACORN)

sound familiar:::::::::::::::

Obama is doing razzle dazzle, smoke and mirrors every day for hours on TV and they all just feel so warm and cozy from the hot air he blows up their pants:

SO the concerned need to organize: KNOW their enemy:
Hitler aka Obama
Saul Alinski aka Obama
William Ayers aka Obama
Obama aka OBAMA
SOROS aka Obama
etc.

David asks
Budget Smoke and Mirrors: Where's the Outrage?
=====================
Tune into Mike Savage and Mark Levin.
Then listen to this guy

http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=92999

" FACTS"
Democrats know their Useful idiots: "their base" the 12% of democrats who can read and write are the opportunists, like Pelosi, Obama, etc.

This nation enjoys a 33% illiteracy rate: All are democrats
This nation enjoys a 25% rate of parasites, leeches, brian fried druggies, radicals, hollywood goons and their useful idiots, criminals, drug dealers, All are democrats.

35% of those who voted for Obama, democrats, do not know anything about the constitution, the government at any level, and are influenced by Hollywood.

He told us.
As we say in Texas, "He's not a hand to lie." He told America what he had in mind: to destroy our country,deplete our military,discontinue our missile defense system,disarm our nuclear weapons unilaterly,nationalize health care,bankrupt the coal industry,increase taxes on producers, empower labor unions,stop exploration and drilling for oil and gas,and so many other issues taking away our freedom. And brain-dead voters, many of whom hadn't a clue of the dangers this anti-American despot was proposing for our country, elected him anyway. It is my hope that many of these fools who followed this pied piper of Hamlin have awakened by now, before it's too late, and before this Chicago sewer rat and his fellow thugs are able to complete all of their goals.

2010 is TOOOOOOOOOOO late !

Obama is paving the way to HELL at warp speed on the freeway of NO RETURN without an OFF ramp!

HE IS the enemy within:

NOT ONE RNC / GOP / Conservative leader has the guts to stand up: organize a revolt on the capital steps and call this nation to stand up for its self determination, the liberties we fought and died for, our rights and freedom:

AS Germany went under HITLER who had a 90% approval rating
So goes the USA under OBAMA in less than 100 days@

UNLESS the "GOP" or "RNC" leadership pounds the table, and really pushes back with a rant and a call for this nation to rise up to rebel
WE WILL become a GERMANY

Mr. Limbaugh,
who will be our Daniel Harran? Who will stand up to Obama and tell him publicly and to his face, as this British parlimentarian did to Gordon Brown, that he is destroying our country? Lawful revolutions have to be supported by a lesser magistrate. Who will do that for us? Writing columns for conservative websites is nothing more than preaching to the choir.

We need concrete plans. I am taking my four children to the local tea party on April 15 and have written dozens of letters to Congressmen. I am losing hope and very frightened that nothing will stop this runaway train which is headed right at us.

SHAMING THE NATION EQUALLY OUTRAGEOUS
WILL THE OBAMA LED LEFT SHAME AMERICA?
Abandoning our allies is not a valid option.

http://greensrealworld.blogspot.com/2009/03/betraying-our-a llies.html


wow
There is a black is white quality to conservative writing. Bush inherited surpluses large enough that Republicans were justifying tax cuts for the rich on the basis that it was not healthy to run such surpluses. He turned them into deficits as far as the eye can see. This continued long after a mild recession he inherited had ended. The projections for falling deficits lay in ridiculous accounting gimmicks. The war in Iraq was funded each year outside of the budget because his people were apparently repeatedly surprised we were still there. The out year projections assumed that his tax cuts would end, even though he had no intention of allowing them to, because that made the deficits seem smaller.

And in the end, the Bush policies resulted in the economic disaster that led to his final year deficit exploding.

By contrast, Obama presented honest numbers. The wars were moved on budget where they belong. Spending increases he expected in the future were built in making deficits larger than he could make them by using the Bush technique of not counting them.

And Limbaugh accuses Obama of smoke and mirrors and creating deficit spending.

As it happens, Congress is going to put some of those gimmicks back in the budget so they can claim to be cutting the deficit from the Obama levels while not doing so. But Limbaugh doesn't seem to understand the situation well enough to make that honest criticism.


Kool
You've been duped into thinking rich people and big corporations are evil. They're not.

You obviously have a problem with tax cuts for people who pay taxes.

You'd get a tax cut too if you'd take some responsibility for yourself and set some goals, get an education, then a job, then go to work...every day.

No it's not quite as fun as lounging around at the local college waiting for the next government handout, but is is fulfilling.

lon the troll
aren't you the same fool that keeps up with this fantasy there were huge surpluses under clinton.

No such things occurred this country has had a growing deficit for decades. And the deficit grew during the clinton years.

But you are another fool who has no understanding of economics or the fact that congress has an insatiable desire to spend every penny that comes into the treasury and then borrow more money.

During the clinton years gfingrich and company did limit spending for a short period of time when congress didn't spend every penny but that was for a very short time

Buty no president ever grew the deficit the way flap ears has done since he took over and how much more he plans to do in the future.

You dimorats cried when bush had a deficit of $200 billion as being bad for the country but the flap ears deficit this year of $2 trillion doesn't bother you in the least.

All deficits and wasteful spending is not good for the economy. But you morons have been convinced by the fool sitting in the oval office that he is investing in the country but you fail to understand that the bill for his reckless spending will come due and that will require higher taxes

Smoke and Mirrors
David writes, "Adding insult to injury, he's claiming he's saving $2 trillion in spending"

Obama reminds me of the wife that comes in from the mall with her arms full of shopping bags claiming she saved you hundreds of dollars by getting this stuff on sale. Of course you're still out the hundreds she spent.

Good atricle David. Too bad you'll never find this analysis of the deficits being presented on CNN or any Major News rag.

One good thing we can do to show our disgust for the fourth estate is cancelling your subscriptions and turning off all MSM News programs. The Nielson ratings will speak volumns to their advertisers and they'll have to change or fold. Most are too ideological to change so they'll fold and I'll say good ridance.

Where WAS the Outrage
"I don't recall ever seeing another president whine so much about the mess his predecessor left him, "

I don't recall ever seeing another president left with such a big mess. If conservatives voiced as much concern about budget deficits over the past 28 years as they are now, then maybe we wouldn't be in this mess right now.

The time to deal with it was 28 years ago when Reagan started running huge deficits. It's too late now. We're screwed.

Dave writes... 6:39 AM EST
"I don't recall ever seeing another president left with such a big mess."

Then you go on to mention Reagan. Were you alive when he inherited Carter's mess? Why do you think he had such a landslide victory?

BTW, Bush inherited a down economy from Clinton and had to deal with the economic disasters of 9/11 and Katrina while prosecuting two wars. And still his deficits will pale in comparison to what Obama is giving us.

You're Fooling Yourself
The only thing Reagan had that we don't is inflation. We've got one year until baby boomers retire; Reagan had 40 and did jack to prepare for it; we've got a falling dollar; skyrocketing trade deficit; record budget deficit; uncomprehensible national debt; and the biggest downturn in the economy since the great depression.

Where's the outrage?
It's right here David. We the people intelligent enough to understand what is going on are outraged. We who understand this obamanation (pun intended) will distroy what is left of a constitutional America. We also realize this has been going on by degrees for many decades of incrementally violating that very constitution. We are outraged. You won't see us burning flags or screaming on street corners like a three year old. We are searching for a way to stop it. We are writing our congress critters and getting no response. We curse the day Kruschev's children became legal adults and began their preparations to 'bury us'. We are looking for a leader, a way to right these wrongs. We're searching for a way to stop the tide of destruction this administration is creating.

5 stars, Foolmuse
But it won't matter to the Foolmuse. It's there in black and white, Obama is killing what is left of our Country and if to agree with that, for shame.

You people only want to be right, without consequence. Obama is a liar, and nothing he campaigned for has meant a fukking thing. Wake up!!
His immaturity and inexperience is evident at every turn. in two years, let me know how it's working for you, because he is a one term boy wonder who has not graduated from pull-ups.

My bet is that he will still blame Bush.

Revolt
Attend a tea party on April 15. It is a start and if sufficiently large, the main street media will covere it.

D.Limbaugh
You are spot on.Your brother tells us all about obama.The problem is that the msm carry's his water.Most people that voted for obama get their news from them.

this bill has to be illegal!!!
O.K. no one in congress has read this bill - yet outragious new laws are contained in this that will have drastic effects on our country and "we the people"! I believe that we need to sue congress for passing such a socialistic bill! They had a duty to to read this bill in full and yet no one had. They do not even know all what is in it - and then "we the people" are to follow and abide by these new laws. I DON"T THINK SO!!!! THIS HAS TO BE ILLEGAL!!! THEY HAVE ADMITTED THEY DID NOT READ THE BILL -WHY SHOULD I CHANGE MY WHOLE WAY OF LIFE IN AMERICA FOR A HANDFUL OF PEOPLE WHO DECIDED THAT I SHOULD GO ON GOV'T HEALTHCARE OR MY ENERGY BILLS SHOULD BE TRIPLED INTAXES - I SAY WE SUE THE HELL OUT THESE FOOLS - WE CANNOT AND WILL NOT THEM DO THIS TO US!!!!!

Mr. Obama; Quintessential Con Man
Watching Mr. Obama is like watching a snake oil salesman in an old movie. He grabs the crowd. With wonderful convincing speech, he captures the hopes of his crowd and feeds them back. Harry and Nancy join his dance to entertain the members of the assembled crowd.

The crowd should know the words are just words. They should know that the con man's only goal is to use his eloquence to satisfy his own personal wants and objectives. The media joins the chorus and adds a covering to hide what lies underneath the words.

The magic of the con man rests the crowd not knowing they have been taken until it is too late. I challenge anyone to refute that Mr Obama's manipulation of the uninformed is the very definition of "Con Man". If you sought the best plan to destroy the American economy, that undertaken by Obama, Harry, and Nancy might very well win first place.

spoon feeding
my family, my husband's family lived thru the war in europe, came here to the U.S. when there was no assistance (no welfare), we lived thru anxious times...there & here....but all I remember is the hopefulness of getting out of that situtation...

now, we are anxious all over again watching this leader lead us back to where we came from...

he has no frame of reference other than to "take" from those who earn..

I would be less anxious if we were all left to our own devices...I would gladly go back to tilling the earth to feed myself...as long as there was no long arm reaching out to take what I harvested...

but pretty soon, it won't be worth doing for oneself...

we'll just wait for the long arm of gov't


A simple question for the moonbats
For Lon, the semi-literate Foolmuse and the the rest of the cultists:

Every leftist poster is whining about the deficits Obama has supposedly inherited from GWB as though St. Barack and his democrat colleagues were the voice of reason and restraint arguing against all of this profligate spending, when in fact he and they supported and voted for every bit of it.

But leaving that aside, let's just stipulate for the sake of argument that the deficit was "all Bush's fault."

If deficit spending before Jan. 20 was a reckless, destructive, misappropriation of taxpayer dollars that led us to the brink of financial ruin, how can even greater deficit spending suddenly be the magic bullet that will slay the economic dragon? How will continuing down the same path at an accelerated pace turn the economy around?

Can one of you dingbats please explain this to me? I'm dying to hear how this is going to work.

The crux of the matter
Limbaugh claims: "the economy will turn around anyway in due course, without government intermeddling on the spending side. "

That's simply FALSE. There may be up to $40 trillion (yes, TRILLION) in Credit Default Swaps hanging out there. That's triple the entire GDP of the U.S. for a year. If most of those prove worthless, it would drive the U.S. economy into a depression.

This is the crux of the matter. Some conservatives believe that the U.S. economy is always self-correcting, no matter how big a shock it has taken. But it's not. The huge amounts of derivatives, the high leverage involved in purchasing them (up to 30 to 1) has magnified downside risk to the point that the economy might not rebound before it ends up in total bankruptcy.

The U.S. economy can't recover from this shock without government help of some kind. I would have preferred it to be oriented toward tax cuts and managed bankruptcy for the zombie banks and financial companes. But doing nothing is NOT an option and never has been.

We need
to sign a letter that is about 4 miles long, addressed to Nancy Pelosi & Harry Reid asking them, if you wish to save this country, you had better stop OBAMA. If you don't, all hell is going to break loose eventually.

Buy your guns and ammo while you still can because Obama DOES plan to confiscate guns.


Rock Strongo
"If deficit spending before Jan. 20 was a reckless, destructive, misappropriation of taxpayer dollars that led us to the brink of financial ruin, how can even greater deficit spending suddenly be the magic bullet that will slay the economic dragon? How will continuing down the same path at an accelerated pace turn the economy around?

Can one of you dingbats please explain this to me? I'm dying to hear how this is going to work."


I have been asking that very same question...don't hold your breath waiting for an answer.

Obama plans
to grow the government even more.

Just what do you think those cuts in charitable deductions are designed to do?

Reducing the amount of money to charity doesn't reduce the need, and Obama in his white hat, will ride over the hill and save the charities with your tax dollars.

Get ready for it because it is coming. More government is more power.

Where's the Outrage?
David L. says: "Smiling at our collective stupidity, he thus plans to disguise his increases in annual spending as decreases and take credit for cutting the budget in half by the end of his term." That right there torques me off big time! I foresaw the smoke and mirrors and serial lying during the whole of the pretender’s campaign but the blatant, purposeful deceit of late is more than I can take. This fraud is dangerous! Send him back to Kenya!

Disingenuous
... postings posted here in the wee hours, depicting Bush and the GOP as the cause to the current financial mess.

Bush did minor damage compared to the catalysis that started this ball rolling. Which is the leftist ideology of FAIRNESS and EQUALITY.

Bush should not have started bailouts, but as I recall most republicans and democrats here were bemouning the bailouts together. I also recall democrats saying Bush is comparable to Hitler, but they now turn away from the totalitarian ideology of Obama and support his current wild spending and bailouts?!

Republicans and the GOP may be adrift. But it is CLEAR Democrats are not the solution to the current problem - they are pouring fuel on the fire.

Americans ought to base their vote on the ideology, principals and plans of candidates not party affiliation next election.








Smoke and Mirrors = GOP "Budget"
====

The illusive promised (again and again) GOP "Budget"...

Now THAT deserves OUTRAGE!!

Grandstanding while OFFERING ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

http://www.gop.gov/solutions/budget/road-to-recovery-final. pdf

====

Lone Rules
Perhaps doing *nothing* is exactly what this country needs from our government - clearly the more government does for the good of the people the worse conditions become.

With that said, I agree the GOP needs numbers to go with their plan.

However - I don't think it really matters and is of no concern to most Americans since democrats control congress.

BTW I recall democrats chronically complaining and not producing any solutions the last 8 years, were you as outraged then? Have you been outraged that the democratically held congress of 2006 didn't do something to stop or slow the economic melt down?

Outrage?
Those who are dependent on government and the threat of government regulation -- banks come to mind -- are afraid to be too vocal. The left-leaning media wants the distruction of capitalism. The rest of us are expressing our outrage by pushing Fox news to new heights and participating in tea parties and the like. The real outrage needs to be expressed in 1010. Retire Reid, Speaker Pelosi, Dodd, Frank and every other far left zealot. Now, that's outrage.

http://periodictablet.com

lone rules
don't get up[set. The dims control congress and flap ears will sign anything put in front of him that requires more spending and deficit.

So you can calm down and sneak off to your bedroom and put mommy's clothes back on and attempt to energize your self esteem that you actually contribute anything to the discussion or the betterment of society

Hey Jim, help me out with terms, labels
Kindly define the TERM socialism for us yourself.
Your remark that "It's just a pejorative term that you picked up" seems to deny, not its definition, but its existence.
So define socialism? Try it...you might not like it!
As to LABELS, did not Limbaugh support his assertions with facts about "problems in detail"?

DEAF, DUMB AND BLIND


Obama is a dangerous man struck deaf, dumb and blind by the socialist idea. It is the source of his silly smile, the source of his smug arrogance, the source of his certainty, license to lie and false self-confidence. Outside that idea his life has no purpose, value or meaning. Outside that idea he has no truth, reality or moral integrity; outside there's only darkness and despair, a broken, imperfect, suffering world lost in illusion, lost to all hope, lost to the radical future. A world of injustice, poverty and war waiting to be transformed, waiting for Obama, the deaf, dumb and blind, the socialist dope-a new tragedy in the history of utopian disasters ready to unfold.

Does getting angry help?
I have voted each time for one thing or the other in the past twelve years only to have it overturned....Someone that does not agree with you will find a way to overturn it....SO..what good does it do to vote and what good does it do to get angry....no one does anything but what they (the liberals...crying sob sisters) wants.
Bernice Welch
CA.

Yes
Bernice writes:
Does getting angry help?
=======================
Good source of energy
And used in the right direction is fantastic energy

Where is the outrage?
Where is the outrage? It is out here. However, the Washington liberals are so out of touch with reality they do not even know it is here! In addition, they are so stupid they think no one could possible be outraged at their mean tactics, lies, terrible decisions, etc.! But just be patient, a rebellion & revolution is brewing at the grass roots!

Don't Get Angry. Vote Out The Liberals.
This is what it comes down to. President Obama is getting some pushback from his own party in traditional red states like Indiana with Senator Evan Bayh, and many others. If you live in states with Pelosi type socialists, vote your consciences. Vote them out. President Obama can't overrule a conservative majority. This government was built to survive a disingenuous demagogue. http://theclosetconservative.com

Obama-Saddam Hussain Obama
Hussain Obama and all his foreign and local cronies and theives-including the A.I.G. director, Nancy Pelosi, Reid, Dodd, Frank, Ayers, Berniski, all the Senate, all the Congress, and All the rest of the White House scum, Mrs. Obama and her mother, any and All persons hidden in their pockets, shoes, hats, belts, stimulis monies, earmarks, projects, programs, companies, Corporations, Banks, The Media, and any other place you can hide crooks and STOLEN MONEY AND VALUABLES, AMERICANS HOUSES, ILLEGAL WELFARE,ILLEGAL HOUSING,ILLEGAL MEDICAL AND HOSPITALIZATION, ILLEGAL LOANS, ILLEGAL PEOPLE AND THE LIST GOES ON AND ON AND ON AND ON AND ON-----ALL OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA GOVERNMENT NEEDS TO BE IMPEACHED OR FIRED OR BOTH. I WOULD SAY MORE BUT THIS ABSOLUTELY IS 1000% MORE THAN ALL THE PEOPLE COMBINED IN THE GOVERNMENT CAN COMPREHEND. AND---ILLEGAL HUSSAIN OBAMA, HIS AUNT, THE REMAINDER OF HIS ILLEGAL RELATIVES AND FREINDS, AND ALL--ALL--ALL--ALL--OF THE ILLEGAL IMMAGRANTS IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA NEEDS TO BE DEPORTED BACK TO THEIR OWN COUNTRIES AND LOCKED UP SO THEY CANNOT--NEVER--COME BACK HERE.

Lolo and Rocko
You can't reason with these liberal trolls...they are incapable of rational and logical thought. Blaming Bush (who spent way too much and expanded government himself) is the classic blameshift. We call it in nouethetic counseling the "you too" rationalization. It's like the adulterous wife who says to her husband, "Well, you flirted with your secretary so you can't criticize me for sleeping with every member of the Yankees!"

It's the Economy
again, stupid!

Senator Gregg is now standing up and pointing out how destructive Hussein's budget is and will be.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/first100days/2009/03/28/cla ssic-clinton-phrase-inspires-new-gop-strategy-regain-power/

To Laura in NY:
Interesting thought about suing Congress. How about trying to have the "Stimulus Bill" invalidated due to falsification by the signatories to having studied the 1100 plus pages before signing it. Somehow it seems unethical and against the principals for which congress people were elected. I feel we hsve been defrauded.
But I also have another idea.
How do we start a Recall Petition? Calif. got rid of the incompetent Gov. Grey that way. Also need to include Reid, Pelosi, and Frank in this.
I feel they are all commiting fraud against this country.
Any "legal eagles" out there with ideas? This country is running out of time.

And to you liberals, do you really think you will not be presented with a bill yourselves for this country's crushing debt?
Hold onto your wallets...it's going to get ugly.

David - it is over
"...With all due respect to Mr. Obama, I don't recall ever seeing another president whine so much about the mess his predecessor left him, disgracing the motto of former Democratic President Harry Truman that "the buck stops here."..."

LMAO It is clear the limbawls have not one shred of honesty and manhood left in their bodies. After disowning any responsibility for anything, you attack Obama???? That is sooooo very, very typical.

the scranton drunkard
so the loser who has lived his entire life, like his love interest flap ears, off the public teat thinks that is the only way the country can be saved.

Too bad losers like the drunkard never understand that capitalism does work and that people working to acquire wealth doesn't make them evil.

Too bad the drunkard can't find a banana republic with cheap drinks plenty of sexually confused types to live. Oh wait haiti would work and it is a step up from scranton

Bankers bailing out bankers
When Obama says his budget proposal is necessary to address the economic crisis - I believe he means it! Our tax dollars will continue to be fed to bail out banks because the the CDS damage is not over and not even close. How do we know that? Because of what we don't know - where the money is going, how long will it be needed, how is being used, nothing! If this thing was any where close to over, we'd know it. See my post and please readers, help to explain to everyone you know that Obama's budget is big bailout waiting to happen. Edify yourselves and others - things have only grown more secretive since the Bush/Obama plan has unfolded. Please see my posted and please get activated!

http://activated.blogtownhall.com/

Haiti/Scranton
Ever wonder *why Haiti would be a step up from Scranton, miss cactushead? The USA is a very rich third world country as it is. You can draw a map based on wealth discrepancies in which the Bronx is as far from Downtown Manhattan as NYC in total is from Rio.

Adam Smith, in the less well thumbed part of The Wealth of Nations, said that capitalism only functions well with a welfare state.

He also wrote The Theory of Moral Sentiments which says humans have spontaneous compassion for suffering beings. It's on Obama's favorite book list.

Go figure.

timothy, britisish parasite
on another thread you told of your love for socialism and how much you miss the socialism of gr britain.

But you and the drunkard from pa need to arrange a hook-up. You two clowns are a match made in heaven.

Both of you two losers admire what the messiah is promising to give to america and that is the socialism parasites crave.

At barone's thread you told us you are an absentee daddy content to let your daughter enjoy the free goodies of britain while you keep your sorry behind ion america.

So what's keeping you here. Must be the lifestyle in san fran and all the buddies you would miss

Thank you Mr. Limbaugh!
Don't ever stop exposing the traitor in the White House. From us he is getting the scourge he deserves!! I hope we all keep practicing "OUT" rage!!!
Vote the traitors OUT!

Can't Handle Heat, Get Out of Kitchen!
David, you are soooo right! America should be sick and tired of hearing how he inherited the mess, but now someone else hopefully will inherit his mess in 2012 (or before) as he's alredy more than tripled the national debt in about 90 days! Imagine the next 90 days and then the next 90 days - now, that's really scary since no one's taking the printing presses or the ink away from Obama or the feds - and the media isn't printing the truth for the most part - I say, if Obama can't handle the heat then he should get out of the kitchen - because blaming everyone else in the world - Bush - bankers - American people who have too much, earn too much, and use too much electricity, gas, and spend too much money - that should all be taxed at 60 - 90% up and go to him and Pelosi and Reid so they can jet around and eat steak and drink champagne - and pollute the air at our expense - then he should get out honorably before the heat is turned up!

Congratulations

Congratulations! You are the only person I ever heard of who is telling us that Bush deficits weren't so bad after all!


Also I find this interesting..
"With all due respect to Mr. Obama, I don't recall ever seeing another president whine so much about the mess his predecessor left him, disgracing the motto of former Democratic President Harry Truman that "the buck stops here."

Well if I had governed as Bush and the Republicans have I would not want someone bringing up the past that either...

You use the word "Disgrace"

Who are you to lecture us on what is a disgrace and what is not?

I will tell you what a disgrace is..

Disgrace is whipping up fear with half truths and lies and sending off thousands off to die for WMDs that were not there and smearing those that questioned all this.


Republicans promised prosperity if only we cut taxes for the richest. They have been telling us for years that deregulation would bring unleash a wonderful era of prosperity. What happened? Take a look at the mess we are in. Now that's a disgrace.

Here is the truth you cant face. Republicans have FAILED.. Get it? YOU HAVE FAILED..failed to find WMDs, failed to balance the budget and failed to bring prosperity. The only way you hide this failure is to divide the country with appeals to race, homophobia and fear of Muslims.
Republicans have no solutions. They can only complain and whine and call names. And that is a real disgrace.
VietnamEraVet..

Isn't it funny how the libs
Don't have a problem with deficits when its Mr. Cool Scam Man doing the spending. They bring up Bush this and Bush that even with two years of dim spending and don't forget it was all a fear mirage. Bombs and heads are going on off all over the world but Bush just made it up. These guys can write a 10,000 word thesis on all the Bush bashing and conservative boogey men talking points that they've learned from pmm (Propaganda Media Machine aka msm), brainmovedon, huffnpuff and daily kommie.

Oblaba is going down fast and speaking of fear they're very well aware of shallow upstart attitude this guy is showing. You can hear it in their whining about the past. Just like their dimwit leader.

More Heritage Slides to Follow....
You've got to love the "Conservatives"...They feel OBLIGATED to mitigate Bush budget record while simultaneously burrying Obama...The problem here is that the Limbaughs don't look in the mirror. Maybe beyond the birthday cake celebrations, Limbaugh could somehow view the Bush record with a clear-eyed (Conservative?)view..The House GOP has proposed cutting taxes across the board, cutting corporate tax AND cutting the deficit..OF course they have no bottom-line NUMBERS to support this idea because their "budget" is a farce...But don't worry! Limbaugh and the House GOP will continue to ignore fiscal reality. Who needs reality when the GOP's been running the same gameplan for every occasion? They'll take that decade-old Heritage Foundation Powerpoint presentation that WAS titled "GOP Plan for Prosperity". It's already been changed to "GOP Stimulus Plan" earlier this year. NOW, they'll just change that header againg to "GOP Budget for America"...See it's simple...New Ideas?..We don't need (or WANT) new "ideas" when we got such a good Powerpoint Presentation from the Heritage Foundation. Let's change the title and go!

Who's The Boss?
GM CEO resigns at Obama's behest
By MIKE ALLEN | 3/29/09 6:28 PM EDT Text Size:


The White House confirms Wagoner is leaving at the government's behest.
Photo: AP
The Obama administration asked Rick Wagoner, the chairman and CEO of General Motors, to step down and he agreed, a White House official said.

On Monday, President Obama is to unveil his plans for the auto industry, including a response to a request for additional funds by GM and Chrysler.

Wagoner’s resignation was one of the remarkable strings attached to the new aid package the administration is offering GM, based on recommendations from the Presidential Task Force on the Auto Industry, headed by the Treasury Department.


TH'ers - need to act now...
Please do not ignore the speed with which these budget commitments are taking place! Even my moderate and independent friends are freaking out about the spending they bought. They are starting to see the falsehoods, the double talk, the faulting of inexperience and the extreme intent to act quickly. None of it good.

Now WE have to act JUST AS QUICKLY. Every week is another jump of the cliff. Please contact congress today! I have created a post to help you act quickly and get it done right away. We really truly must act now. Tell congress the spending must stop before this week's batch of budget proposals come down the pipe. Go and spread the word quick:
http://activated.blogtownhall.com/


HE "FIRED" the CEO of GM !

ON this cold and stormy Sunday morning while the nation was in church praying for deliverance for this EVIL!

COMMUNIST LEADER OF THE USA, Dictator OBAMA

WITHOUT SHAREHOLDER apprival FIRED the CEO OF GM.

WHEN that teleprompter said::: "I SWEAR TO..." NO WHERE did it say that he had the right to FIRE anyone employed by the PRIVATE SECTOR in the USA.

NOTICE:: he did not FIRE any union leaders:

SHAREHOLDERS of publicly held corporations are the ONLY ONES who have the right to FIRE and HIRE the executive leader of THEIR corporation !

ON TO DC JULY 4th with your freedom torches:
FIGHT to restore our right to self determination:




Buck stops
So, Mr Limbaugh says, the buck stops with the President.
Funny I seem to recall many voices telling us it wasn't Bush fault that 9/11 occurred but Clintons'. And how many times have I heard that we cant blame Bush for the fact that the war in Iraq was started for WMDs that turned out to be non existent. ..after all everyone else thought they were there too..Not Bush fault Same with the deficit and the tanking economy. All the fault of Barney Frank and those Democrats that gained Congressional power in the final two years
The buck passed right over Bush and the entire Republican party on these matters.. funny how that is...

Obama is a LIAR---& with only worst
*intentions!*

As David L. has written:

"Obama should look at this egregious $1.3 trillion figure (some say it's substantially more than that) with horror, instantly promise never to allow it to happen again, and have extreme confidence he could fulfill that promise merely by cutting out the extraordinary items. But he's doing just the opposite, with fraud in the inducement and malice aforethought."

Obama seems to take absolute DELIGHT in running up this unimaginable DEBT by spending TRILLIONS that the U.S. does NOT HAVE, all the while claiming "savings" !!! And, he calls it "investment!" Funny thing, all the experts say you have to *pay off your debts,* cut BACK on SPENDING, and have *actual saved MONEY* BEFORE you can "invest!"

I agree with D. Limbaugh that Obama is definitely doing all these depredations "with malice aforethought"!

What's more---in a couple of years (if not sooner) Obama will be saying, "Sorry, I now have to raise EVERYONE'S TAXES, because we have this tremendous debt, and I *promised* to be fiscally responsible--and btw, *it's not my fault,* remember!!

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