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Thursday, October 16, 2008
Laura Hollis :: Townhall.com Columnist
Time to Use the "C" Word
by Laura Hollis
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“I’ve looked over Jordan, and I have seen
Things are not what they seem.
What do you get for pretending the danger’s not real...
Meek and obedient you follow the leader
Down well- trodden corridors into the valley of steel.”

                                                             - Roger Waters

I am tired of all the dancing around the subject with respect to Barack Obama’s political, social, and economic views.  He’s not a “liberal,” or a “Democrat,” or a “progressive,” or even a “socialist.”  Let’s call it what it is, shall we?  It’s time to use the “C” word.  His policies are communist, pure and simple.

Even without the power of the Presidency, a filibuster-proof Senate, and U.S. Supreme Court appointments under his belt, Obama has already:

*  called for a national citizen military force;

* sent government agents to intimidate American citizens who have said they don’t agree with him and will not vote for him;

* tried to use the offices of state Attorneys General to silence any opposition or dissent;

* offered questionable “support” for the Second Amendment “right to bear arms” – as long as it isn’t in self-defense;

* proposed his version of “from each according to his ability, to each according to his need;”  (plumbers – plumbers, for pity’s sake, should pay more taxes???)

* trained, funded and utilized organizations like ACORN that are notorious for voter registration fraud;

* consorted with and funded terrorists and anti-American radicals;

* attended a church led by a racist, black supremacist, anti-American bigot;

* been mentored by Frank Marshall Davis, who was apparently not only a Communist and a bigot, but also a pervert, and who warned Obama not to go off to college or fall for “equal opportunity and the American way and all that s***.”

Despite concerted efforts by the media to hide this information, Obama’s connections with the Communist Party have been unearthed by independent investigators, journalists and bloggers.  And like clockwork, Obama apologists and handlers are trying to assuage the public’s concerns with assurances that Obama is “not that radical;” he knows that “socialism is dead;” he is a pragmatist, not an ideologue.

Uh-huh.  Sure.  Well, they got the “pragmatist” part right, anyway.  Obama’s immersion in the philosophy of Saul Alinsky has made him a master of political pragmatism.  Conservatives make another fundamental error when they wonder why Obama is heralding policies like higher taxes that have been proven, time and time again, to fail.  Newsflash: You don’t get it.  It’s not that Obama is ignorant, or misguided.  He knows – as do his Red backers – that the policies he espouses will cause further economic trauma.  This is deliberate.  Because the worse things get, the more receptive the public will be to Obama’s & Co.’s honey-tongued assurances that the government will step in and “make it all better.” Look at Hurricane Katrina, and the recent financial crisis: how many people were clamoring for the government to “do something”?  And that’s nothing compared to what we’re going to face when Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid collapse.

Obama’s colleagues are shrewd; they know that they have little chance of taking over all of private enterprise by force.  Instead, they want the public to hand it over to them, bit by bit.

Even the briefest study of Communist Party ideology dating back to the 1930s reveals a concerted campaign to infiltrate and destroy the United States from within, by gaining control of the universities, of the media, of primary and secondary school, of the courts, and ultimately the entire government.  Joseph McCarthy’s monumentally bad rap notwithstanding, dozens of former spies have come forward, as have the documents, attesting to the Party’s intentions.  When the Soviet Union fell in 1989, those ideas pretty much went the way of the dodo in Russia, but they have been alive and well in this country for 80 years.  People like William Ayers are proof. Continued...

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Laura Hirschfeld Hollis is a Clinical Professor of Business Administration at the University of Illinois.

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Really now?
The actions of the current administration, Mrs. Hollis, will never become a slippery slope into communism, and to assert as much demonstrates a severe misunderstanding of both our political system and history. Neither Hitler nor Stalin (nor Mussolini, nor Pol Pot, nor Mao Zedong, etc.) operated through existing political structures to implement their radical policies. The fundamental nature of our free market system cannot be altered through legislation alone. Unless you are implying that Obama will use either the military or groups of "black boys in camouflage" as a means by which to implement some new regime, I cannot see how you are doing anything but speculating on an impossible hypothetical nightmare. By all means, I'm sure we both have a lot in common when it comes to opposition to Obama's policies, but articles such as this are the reason that John McCain lost the election: the Republican party loses credibility with moderates when individuals such as yourself advocate these ridiculous ideas.

One more thing
Just as an aside, people are forgetting that the "experience" of BHO is limited to only 143 days. He has spent almost two years campaigning and 143 days in the Senate where his voting record speaks for itself. He authored two books and some of the excerpts have come back to haunt him. If you're a medical intern for 143 days, does that qualify you as being a doctor? I think not. Hopefully our citizens will do the right thing for our great country. I'm 75 years of age so there would be little impact on me but I fear for my kids, grandchildren and those of my friends and citizenry. God Bless America, the land of the free and may our flag always wave o'er the land of the brave.

Finally....FINALLY! Thank YOU!!!
Communism In Chicago and Hawaii - What The Media Are Not Telling You
http://www.usasurvival.org/obama.html

Communist Roots of The Old And New "Progressive" Movement by Herbert Romerstein
http://www.usasurvival.org/ck101408.html

Wright 101
Obama funded extremist Afrocentrists who shared Rev. Wright’s anti-Americanism
http://article.nationalreview.com:80/?q=YTQ0YjhlOGVhYjQ0OWR hZjI2MmM4NTQ4NGM5Mjg0MzU

Obama Signed a Contract with the Chicago Socialist Party
"The fact is that as recently as 1996 Senator Obama was an active member of the Chicago Democratic Socialist Party"
http://yidwithlid.blogspot.com/2008/10/senator-obama-signed -contract-with.html

Why Obama's Communist Connections Are Not Headlines by Paul Kengor
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/10/why_obamas_communist _connectio.html

Barack Obama and the Strategy of Manufactured Crisis by James Simpson
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/09/barack_obama_and_the _strategy.html

The Obama File - Barack Hussein Obama
http://www.theobamafile.com/BarackObama.html

How Obama Applies Alinsky's Rules
http://ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=30697714158304 1

Russian Defector Yuri Bezmenov 1 of 9
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVZ4Lkm6JQw

TED

Same ol, same ol, if I disagree with his policies and ideologies, I am a racist. I did not see anything saying he is black and therefore not worthy to run this country. It is IDEAS Ted, not skin color. This column says it like it is, BHO is a communist...

Re: how right you are!
My God, I am an exiled Ceausescu-regime, American citizen. I know what happened in Communism, step by step, how people were fooled by promises that were simply not realizable, yet many people beleived in the beginning that it is the best thing that happened to them in their life time. After the truth materialized, these same people became the victims of the brutes of the Securitate Police. I am frightened of what is going on, and am glad that some, like Laura have the courage to call it what it is. Thank you Laura for giving a voice to my fears.

Ha, ha, ha. Oh, wait. You're... serious?
Wow. At first I thought-- what great parody! National Lampoon used to do this sort of thing quite well. A loony right-wing screed about how electing a black man president will not only lead to world communism but the end of civilization as we know it. But parody I fear it is not, and I pity her poor colleagues at the University of Illinois whose reputation falls faster than the Dow Jones Industrials each time Laura Hollis fires up her laptop.

Hollis is spot on!
Having been a polysci major or minor at the bachelor, master, and Phd level, I can truthfully say that Ms. Hollis has nailed it. What is going to do us in is our apathy, and the calm, cool way we ignore the "problem". The problem is creeping socialism/communism. Cleon Skousen listed 45 goals of the communist party back in 1963, and many have come to pass. Anyone can find them with a simple search.

My Kin were Starved to Death by Stalin
My Great Grandfather came the from the Bread Basket of Russia in 1888. His kin that stayed were Starved to Death by Stalin.

I used to think that Wright, and then Ayers, would surely stop Obama, but his skill at campaigning is only matched by McCain's ineptitude at it (someone needs to trick McCain into thinking Obama's a Republican), and McCain's former MSM "friends" are "All In" for Obama (surprise, surprise).

I'm Depressed as Hell (my Wife thinks I'm nuts) as I witness what's happening to the country that's brought and maintained Freedom and Prosperity for the World.

How many RATS will it take before I LOVE BIG BROTHER?

Finally...
Finally, a legitimate columnist displays the courage to call Obama what he is--a COMMUNIST--and an especially dangerous one because he exudes charisma. Up until now we had fallen into the the sleep of political correctness. We have a little more than two weeks to openly label Obama as a COMMUNIST and elevate the concerns of undecided voters to outright FEARS. Let them charge us with extremism or smears. Make MSM deal with it openly. This is no time for circumspect dialogue.

STOP OBAMA IN NOVEMBER BEFORE HE DESTROYS AMERICA!!

the material point is.......
Adults realize that Barry-boy, has numerous relationships with anti-American, anti-Western "intellectuals" and fellow travelers. We are all judged by the company we keep. Didn't your mother tell you that long ago?

B. Hussein simply FEELS COMFORTABLE with these types of wimps and trust-fund babies. He has real socialist/communist leanings and preferences. The MSM has worked tirelessly to hide this from the mass public.

Remember, young people today (and immigrants who weren't here in this country to know better), have simply not been educated to know what socialism/communism/Marxism are. Is Barry gona be like Stalin? No, but we will likely live under a soft-tyranny, where one can not question the elite opinion that comes down from the Mount of White House.

Look at Joe the Plumber. It matters not one wit whether or not he's a licensed plumber or even if he is a plumber, what matters is that an ordinary citizen asked a question of The Annointed One and his allies in the MSM have worked overtime to discredit Joe. How shameful of liberals/demcrats. How far they have fallen.

"spread the wealth around" will doom him
Joe - your limp-wristed pleas sound like they would go well with B. Hussein and his "Mother God" figure, Oprah, a tv talkshow host. What a joke. Those two are into "self-actualization" and other nonsense the rich waste their time on.

Barry "the madrassa boy" does truly have Marxist sympathies and Islamic ones as well.
In my opinion, he hardly qualifies as an American and from my time in the armed forces, I am pretty sure, he would likely not pass a background check for a classified security clearance. Too many questionable friendships and political alliances.

Young people think the election is over because well, they're "young and dumb". Two plus weeks is an eternity in campaigns. Much more will happen to illuminate B. Hussein.

In the end, the American people will not elect a left-wing lawyer with virtually no real world experience, who likes to stick his finger out and point while talking (instructing we the ignorant masses) and perch his head up slightly to give his face an angelic/god-like appearance.

The MSM is gonna in for one helluva letdown!




Shame again
He was mentored?! Really? Here's a kid, young Barack, with no father who finds it almost impossible to find someone like himself, half black and half white. Who could blame him for finding comfort in someone with a similar appearance of thought. Obama was TEN YEARS OLD and there is NO PROOF that he has taken to heart and will carry out the thoughts of some guy he was an acquaintance with THIRTY YEARS AGO!

It's taken me almost two hours to read your thoughts and all the articles you linked to as well as more balanced and properly cited accounts of the same incidents. If you had taken even a fraction of that time to find the TRUTH instead of tidbits of info that supported your already twisted convictions you would have scrapped this bologna with the first paragraph. SHAME ON YOU and shame on everyone who lets other people do their thinking.

You don't understand what communism is, you don't understand who Obama is and my guess is you're as close minded and ignorant as the people you try and mislead. Again, shame on you.

Shame 3
I dislike ACORN very, very much. I think what that branch of the group did to falsify voter registration was disgusting but Obama didn't train and fund them for that. He's responsible for making the lives of his constituents better. ACORN claims to have the same goals and that's what he trained and funded them for.

The terrorist thing has been refuted too many times. There were many respectable people on the same boards as William Ayers. Why has no one brought up any problems with the University of Illinois for HIRING a former terrorist. THEY MORE THAN ANYONE ARE FUNDING TERRORISTS!

I find it hard to believe that Obama had no idea of how his preacher felt. I think he did know but at the same time he was responsible for the welfare of the people that lived in his community. He should have gone to another church and not listened to the drivel of a whacko but what better way to stay in touch and communicate with those people but to attend their local religious services? I feel he made a mistake here but I have SERIOUS doubt that Obama himself is a racist, black supremacist, anti-American biggot. At most he's only half black supremacist and half white supremacist. I'm OK with that.

Shame
Obama was calling for a stronger sense of pride and civic action. Neighbors helping neighbors. That's what John McCain wants also, giving back to your country. You're disgusting for perverting that. With all the young people trying to be Paris Hilton wannabes and thinking that Gossip Girl is reality what we need is to teach young people not to take what they have for granted.

Obama has no control over the secret service. Their job is to protect the presidential candidates. No one in that story was arrested. They were simply questioned, in the woman's home, not in some interrogation room, and when no problem was assessed they left. Simple.

Your third link is titled "tried to use the offices of state Attorneys General to silence any opposition or dissent" yet the article you link to states that "the Attorney General's office was not involved in any way with truth squads, and that he found the CBS news item to be "a mangled story." No one wants to stifle criticism. That is what makes our country great. That effort (and there is no proof of who initiated it) was to stop LIES. Obama is not a Muslim, Obama is not a communist, and if you try to mislead an easily manipulated public then you are impeding democracy and should be punished.

Michael: Just 10 Communists?
Ms. Hollis received the right education. Where did you receive yours? VPK U. (Vain Pretender to Knowledge University)?

My education isn't bad either. I attended SHK (School of Hard Knocks).

Just because I vote for a democrat doesn't make me a democrat. Neither does voting for a Republican make me a Republican. I vote Independent, for whomever I decide would be the best choice.

BTW Michael, you said "that Obama is basically talking about reforming and regulating capitalism." Well FYI, no one hates capitalism any worse than the communists, so actually, communists work hard to "reform and regulate" capitalism in order to destroy it.

Just what do you call the "forcing" of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to make bad loans. I'd call it reforming capitalism into communism. In other words, "from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs."

I wonder who follows that doctrine?

Anyway, this election isn't going to solve the U.S.A.'s problems. Only God can do that. So, unless the American people quickly repents and returns America to the God fearing nation it use to be, then the use-to-be "good ol' U.S.A." is going down.

Let's all ask God to Bless America.

Fearl Smith

Where's my last comment?
I hope my last comment about Obama's communist mentors, including Frank Marshal Davis, will turn up.
Thank you.

Obama mentored by communists..
Michael in IA: don't live in a dream world. Obama's father introduced him to USA Communist Party member, Frank Marshall Davis. Odinga in Kenya who Obama pushed to win there is a Communist. Obama has attended Socialist USA meetings in the 90's, etc. There is also the New Party and Progressives for Obama that has a lot of the former communist SDS members in it. What do you think Obama means when he slipped and said, "Let's spread the wealth"...Robin Hood style...take from the rich, give to the poor! Cliff Kincaid of America's Survival documents a lot in "Communism in Chicago and the Obama Connection" and "Communism in Hawaii and the Obama Connection", as do many other sources. Jerome Coursey was kicked out of Kenya when he tried to do find out more.
Wake up! Open your eyes! Pray before you vote!

Look to God not government
We need to return to the principles of our Founding Fathers who looked to God and not government. That's how our Constitution was set up..to protect us from any one branch from having too much power. Government needs to get out of the way. The Bible recommends people in need look to their family and the church. Obama and plans to enlarge government's stranglehold is trying to usurp our God-given freedom of looking to God. Communism removes all vestiges of religion. When the ACLU (a communist organization, as is the U.N.) et al, start attacking the very Christian biblical upon which our nation was founded, it is up to us to say "no". I'm thankful President Bush did preserve with an order "One nation under God" when it was trying to be stolen from our heritage.
P.S. Laura, wonderful article. Is there a way you can e-mail me my comments that got rejected on this board, which I was told were too long when I wrote a comment around 4 or 5am? I would like to use my post elsewhere. It's the post where I said that Alexandr Solshenitzyn stated in Gulag Arachipelago that "The Russian people lost their big freedoms when they stopped fighting for their small freedoms." and "If a society values anything more than freedom, it is deigned to lose that very freedom." I also
said, "Tyranny prevails when good men do nothing." I am trusting God to pull us through this. We are still a Democracy and can call our congress and our president and vote and also work for fair elections. We need to get rid of ACORN as it is our taxdollars paying for them to register only Democrats and many of them who are in the grave, Mickey Mouse, etc. We are losing our voting voice when it's usurped by these illegal and tyrannical means to steal the voice of the people on election day!

Letter to Ms. Hollis
Dear Ms. Hollis,

I want to thank you for this article. It is one of the best written and most truthful articles I have read during this political year.

You are right-on right on every thing you said. I know, because I am a 76 year old Patriotic American, born and still living in Jack County, Texas.

I come from a God fearing class of Americans, born in and lived my childhood in the 1930's, and back then, I witnessed people living by their faith in God. My, my, how 70 years can make such a difference.

I've also studied and kept up with the communist movement since my military stint in the U.S. Army, 1953-55. Thanks again, and keep writing the truth.

As bad as I hate to admit it, America is not on a slippery slope, but is standing on the edge of a deep chasm -- one little push and we're gone.

This election year may provide that push.

Respectively Yours,
Fearl Smith

There Are About 10 Communists Left Today
There are about 10 communists left in America today, and at least half of them are probably FBI agents. Republicans are really getting desperate if they are trying to dig up the long-dead remains of the Communist Party USA. I am a strong Obama supporter and have donated the maximum to his campaign. I've listened to all the deabtes and most of his speeches, so I know that Obama is basically talking about reforming and regulating capitalism.

How can anyone even argue with that, given that free market-type capitalism has totally collapsed, and even bankers are begging for trillions of dollars from governments all over the world. Trillions! I don't envy the next president of this country and all the problems he'll have to deal with, but Obama by far will be the best man by far for the common people of the country.

No one can convince me that Republicans have ever cared anything about Joe the Plumber except when they want his vote. If they win, he'll be forgotten one minute after the elction is over--just like Billy Ayers. I'm betting that Obama won't forget the ordinary people, though.

Socialism versus Communism
The "tadpole defense" at work. Tadpoles will rapidly move their tails to muddy the water and escape being caught by predators--the "Tadpole Defense". This discussion of differences between Socialism and Communism is the tadpole defense, and has the same validity as the statement "I am a little bit pregnant" or "I dug half a hole". Rubbish!!!

Akagi
Your Oct 16, 2:28 said: "The goals of communism and the goals of socialism are not the same".

Therefore, The goals of the "Union of the Soviet SOCIALIST Republics (USSR)" were different from Communist Russia. Odd, I never noticed that.

B. Hussein does has Marxist sympathies.
No doubt. Just like he has moooslim sympathies.

The media has run interference for The Messiah With A Thin Resume.

It's gonna be close but Barry is fading.

Obama'sCommunist policies/mentors/family
Thank you Laura. When will the media be honest about this? At least Fox News & other "conservative" media needs to be all over it. They need to bring up communist Frank Marshall Davis, et al,.
Cliff Kincaid of America's Survival (USASurvival.org) has done a lot of research on Communism in Chicago and the Obama Connection and Communism in Hawaii and the Obama Connection. So far Matt Drudge has refused to run his ad, and Fox News reportedly has not wanted to touch this one. I hope they will be honest about these facts. The American people have a right to know. Why are all of the media obviously content to sweep these facts under the rug?!!!

Socialism, Communism or Muslim Radical?
Thank you for a great article. I have been searching for who is the real "Obama". You put so much of it in one article.

Democrats have cried that our economy has crashed is the fault of the Republicans. However, it started long before George Bush was elected.

If Obama is elected, he will have complete control over the Senate and the House. Obama will have complete control because Pelosi, Reid, Frank, etc. etc. will help him.

Obama wants a civilian military - to teach them the Saul Alinsky rules, like ACORN was taught. He wants the Second Amendment Abolished. No guns in the home of any American. He wants control of talk radio. I'm sure Fox News will also be abolished. He and Ayers have been trying to change our school system for years.

All of poor Americans who want to "spread the wealth" will be very dissapointed. The only wealth will be in control of Obama - Americans will only get what he thinks you need.

I only hope that I will not wake up one day to an America where we will have no freedom of speech, religion, and the rights we have always enjoyed.

THIS COUNTRY SHOULD BE VERY AFRAID OF OBAMA


Communism is socialism in a hurry.
If this has already been said, it bears repeating anyway that Akagi's illusion about socialism being good and materially different from communism is the foolishness of someone who has never suffered from state control of his every waking thought and action or who likes it that way i.e. either wants to take no responsibility for his own life or aspires to be one of the controlling elite.
COMMUNISM IS JUST SOCIALISM IN A HURRY.

They are the instant and slower versions of the same poisonous belief system: that individual rights should be extinguished in favor of group rights and a totalitarian all-controlling government of an "elite" that plays favorites, plays one group against another and stops at nothing to stay in power.

Voting is manipulated in corrupt ways for the desired result as in Obama's hiring ACORN and eventually the once supposedly democratically elected leader appoints quiescent judges and passes laws to make himself leader for life or keeps up sham elections that vote for him 100% and thumbs his nose at any remaining true democracies.

Look at marxist Mugabe in Zimbabwe who stole numerous elections while his socialist policies reduced the breadbasket of Africa to just another begging bowl.

Look at North Korea vs South Korea. Look at East Germany vs. West Germany. Identical populations split into socialistic policies vs capitalistic. Anyone with a brain can see the losing system.

America's so-called capitalism has already been dragged down by all the socialist tentacles inserted by past Democrat governments.

The idea that during an economic slump you hand the reins to spendthrift socialists is insane. When you're in danger of bankruptcy, do you ramp up your spending? Maybe you do. Or maybe you go pick someone else's pocket. Then you're a socialist, just a thief with "good intentions" that pave the road to hell.

The truth sometimes hurts...
A note to the leftists who are unable to face the truth. Everything in this article is accurate. I have been researching Obama's life history for a long time, and my complete 1961-2008 "Obama Timeline" corroborates the author's allegations:

http://www.colony14.net/id41.html

Those of us who oppose Obama for what he is at least have the decency to do proper research and include references in our writings. We are also civil - which is more than I can say about much of the slurs, insults, profanity, and filth being spewed by many leftists in this campaign.

No one denies your right to believe in socialism, but please have the honesty to admit your beliefs. I fully understand that you may be incapable of earning a decent living based on your own talents, but that doesn't give you the right to forcefully take my income.

ALL TRUTHS HEREIN...
A note to the leftists who are unable to face the truth. Everything in this article is accurate. I have been researching Obama's life history for a long time, and my complete 1961-2008 "Obama Timeline" corroborates the author's allegations:

http://www.colony14.net/id41.html

Those of us who oppose Obama for what he is at least have the decency to do proper research and include references in our writings. We are also civil - which is more than I can say about much of the slurs, insults, profanity, and filth being spewed by many leftists in this campaign.

No one denies your right to believe in socialism, but please have the honesty to admit your beliefs. I fully understand that you may be incapable of earning a decent living based on your own talents, but that doesn't give you the right to forcefully take my income.


The End is near
Obama will attempt to do exactly what Laura says in this column. Obama will cause civil unrest and use that as an excuse to take our guns. Once our guns are gone it'll be all over. He will continue to make things so bad that people will beg him to help. With the nation in turmoil Islamic Nations will arm Blacks and send in insurgents to assist Farrakhan's thugs in taking America from the Whites and putting Islam in charge. We must encourage our States to secede immediately if Obama is elected before he goes after the guns. The democrats are so blimded by greed that they don't see what's going on and will give Obama free reigns to destroy the nation.

Be VERY afraid...
for a frightening Obama Timeline

http://www.colony14.net/id41.html

"What Obama would do..." at:

http://www.colony14.net/id35.html

"Obama's 95% tax cut lie" at:

http://www.colony14.net/id52.html

Communist Party, USA
Why, then, has the CPUSA wrote glowingly of Obama, stating he will lead the country in a new direction? Do you not think they recognize one of their own???

Mark Of The Beast 666
I remember seeing a show on the Discovery Channel about the anti-Christ.

It portrayed a man who was so charismatic, handsome and convincing that millions of gullible citizens all over the world, swooned and fell under his spell.

After he became president he quickly destroyed the structure and morals of civilization that had taken thousands of years to build. He savaged his critics and forced all to submit to his will or face death. All citizens were tatooed with the mark of the beast. Jack booted thugs made short work of dissenters.

Hussein Obama has convinced otherwise responsible people that he is the Messiah. They have fallen under his demonic spell and abandoned all critical thought. They have accepted the notion that He, and only He, can deliver us from this Bush created hell-hole into a land of plenty. Citizens have blithely accepted his plan to "spread the wealth" without ever realizing that it is their wealth that he will be spreading.

Hussein Obama has accomplished nothing in his short life except to associate with those who would destroy this country. Never the less, he still commands the adoration of those he will exterminate once he has stolen the election.



I have seen this movie too...
Laura, I want to congratulate you on saying it like it is, as someone who came from Cuba and have seen this same exact thing take place, (remember that Castro promised to restore the constitution), I can tell you that you are exactly right about the danger that we face.

LABELS, LABELS, LABELS

.....AKAGI ...

.....Usually you make sense but today you seem to be inordinately obtuse ...what is your hang up on Sweden? ...

.....If a party implements 75 percent of the Communist Manifesto but calls itself Socialist/ Progressive ...what is the difference between that and being 75 percent Communist? ...

.....Will we ever see the Communism of Stalin and Mao again? ...I doubt it ...but being a litle bit Communist is like being a little bit raped ...

.....COLOSSUS

Caucaus of Power
This is the most straight up, truthful article I have read regarding the Socialist/Communist movement and candidate B. Obama.
It's tentacles stretch far and wide. See the Congressional Progressive Caucas. Communism has always begun with promises of change, ending poverty, looking out for your rights, etc.. always ending up taking our rights from us. NRA, will be no more. Guns will be owned by government's civil military and criminals period. How many children will we be allowed to have? How much of our money will we be able to keep? Abortion rights?, no..forced abortions. This is all so frightening, but it is true. We've been apathetic. It's time to fight with our vote before it's too late. Then, we will need to get this all to the public extensively, without fail. Darkness perishes in the Light. Stop the freedom of choice act that B.Obama swore to PP he will sign. Stop the fairness doctrine or we will lose our freedom of speech and not have the venue even to disclose.

Hey Slacker!
Don't go away! I just asked you,at the last post,"How old was Obama,in 2001,when Bill Ayers,commiserating with the terrorists,wished he'd done more?! Bill Ayers was also pictured on the cover of some rag-mag not long ago,standing on the American flag!And,by all accounts,it was Ayers,not your beloved,who wrote"Dreams From My Father" As far as I'm concerned,they're one and the same. Would you vote for Ayers? Yes or No?

Hey Slacker!
Don't go away! I just asked you,at the last post,"How old was Obama,in 2001,when Bill Ayers,commiserating with the terrorists,wished he'd done more?! Bill Ayers was also pictured on the cover of some rag-mag not long ago,standing on the American flag!And,by all accounts,it was Ayers,not your beloved,who wrote"Dreams From My Father" As far as I'm concerned,they're one and the same. Would you vote for Ayers? Yes or No?

It's insane
that myself, friends, family and coworkers all see this as a distinct probability under an Obama administration and yet it would appear the majority of Americans are "all for it." I have been shouting the very same things you bring out in this article as long and as loudly as I can for over a year now. I hope and pray that democracy beats out socialism in this election. NOW GET BACK TO WORK! Millions of illegal immigrants on entitlement programs are depending on YOU!
P.S. It's funny that the lyrics from Pink Floyd's "Sheep" turned out to be more profetic than I thought them to be in my teens...

Interesting.
If anyone actually believes the idiot that wrote this article, what will you do when Obama is the President of the United States and Commander In Chief?

Its time to cool the stupid lies and act with some shred of respect.

Or have you lost all perspective and decency.

Remember This!
A young man who isn't a Communist has no heart.An old man who is a Communist has no brain! "If it sounds too good to be true,..."

baseballdoc
"Create the impression that violence and
insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition"

"What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms." - Thomas Jefferson (dirty commie)

O.
The US has been off the rails in regards to the Framers and Founders vision since I don't know at least April 9, 1865 if not before.

The US is already in decline as a super power and you can blame much of this on George Bush. How many nations that became debtor nations and declined economically remained super powers? The answer is none.


Thugacracy Based on the Commie Model
We the people have a lot to look forward to: 1) Ideology that is completely at odds with the intentions of the Fore Fathers, 2) The systemic dismantling of institutions, not in name but in the core reasons for their existence, so as to serve this ideology, 3) A rapid decline from super power status to a large banana-obama republic with Castro-like ideology driving its mediocre accomplishments, and 4) Social upheaval with high risk for violence.

Barack Obama
"Barack Obama will bring Marxism/Socialism to America."

They aren't the same thing. Will Obama bring Marxism to America? No, of course not and only a total idiot will believe that he will? Will he bring socialism? Depends what you mean by the term--will the US become Sweden circa 1975? No. Will Obama push the US more toward socialism than it is now--he will try--socialized medicine, higher taxes, subsidized education, worker training, etc.

Has Socialism always been harmful. I suppose that depends. Sweden has a higher standard of living than the US because of its socialist policies, but it pays a high price for that standard in the form of limited economic freedom. So I guess it depends where you stand on this point on how harmful socialism has been in this case. Few Swedes I bet would want to junk their entire system for the American one.

Obama is not going to be bringing Maoism to the US--if you want that, you will have to go to Nepal.

Sad, Sad, Sad,
Its really sad to see conservatives reduced to such a state.

For the last several days people have been posting Leon Skousen's utter fabrication regarding "communist" goals. It was made up out of whole cloth by an old cold warrior. It has nothing to do with communism or any communist party. It is, in short, an outright lie.

Conservatives have clearly abandoned any attempt at grounding their policies or positions in reality. You guys PREFER teh fantasy world.

Norman
"The goal of socialism is communism?"

Marx thought this too, but care to name a single social democracy that made the leap from socialism to communism? Has Sweden, Denmark, Norway, France ever gone to full communism? The answer is no. Marx also thought that the communist revolutions would happen in the developed capitalist economies like Germany and the United Kingdom--but they happened in mostly poor, peasant based societies like China, Russia and Vietnam. Lenin also felt that Imperialism kept the capitalist system afloat--in the short term but would eventually cause the capitalist system to fail. The capitalist countries have shed their colonial empires for quite some time now--unless you support dependency theory and claim they have replaced it with a neo-imperial system--and they are still around aren't they?

If Marx and Lenin were wrong about these major points--and many other things, why do you think they are right about Socialism being the bridge to communism when it has never been? I suppose we haven't given Sweden enough time. It has only been what 50 years or so?

Michael
"Churches lose not-for-profit status."

For those that use their non-profit status for political purposes in violation ofg IRS rules or use the church as a method to enrich the pastor ans his family--no problem with this at all.

"Look for many limitations on the internet."

Most controls attempted on the Internet have been proposed by so-called conservatives under the guise of "protecting children" and they have time and time again been struck down by the courts. The Communications Decency Act for example was sponsored by a Republican.

"Huge amounts of taxes being sent to other Countries - the Global Poverty Act is already in Congress."

While the Global Povery Act actually doesn't set any actual ODA targets, the .7% figure usually spouted off by people who have not read the act was agreed to by the United States and the other OECD countries in 1970 when resolution 2626 was adopted on October 24, 1970. The OECD countries agreed to reach the .7% of GDP for ODA by 1975, the US has never reached that target and most OECD countries have also failed to reach that target. The target date is now 33 years in the past. The countries that have met the target are: Norway at .95%; Sweden at .93%; Luxembourg at .9%; Denmark and the Netherlands at .81%. The US is tied for last with Greece at .16%.


Baseball
So since Sweden, Norway et al system of social democracy was exactly that--redistribution of wealth--were they then using your terms communist?

Not too many colonial governments these days are they? So who decides when then people of these colonies are ready for self-government, the colonial masters? Using that standard the US could still be part of the British Empire.


Oustanding Article
If Obama is elected President, look for the following to take place:

1) Churches lose not-for-profit status.
We've seen how the secular progressives have steadily attempted to halt the impact the church has in America. It has worked in limited ways, but not nearly enough. He will push to make donations non-deductable.

2) The Fairness Doctrine will be enacted to once again limit free speech and dissent.

3) Look for many limitations on the internet, the greatest exhibiter of free speech will be taxed and heavily.

4) Huge amounts of taxes being sent to other Countries - the Global Poverty Act is already in Congress.

5) Huge taxes on the top 5% which will cripple the economy, increase the cost of living and basically break the American economy.

6) Substantially reduce our military spending making our military incapable of fighting anywhere in the world.

7) Hand over a huge portion of U.S. Sovereignty to the U.N. and prop up the U.N. to ushed in a global economy.

8) At some point, America will be so crippled, it will require ushering in a world government.

9) Also look for huge amounts of tax money to go out in the form of slave reparations. This is not designed to say I'm sorry, but to pour massive amounts of money into the hands of his supporters and will begin the national civilian militia.

10) Do away with homeschooling that subverts the ability of government to subvert our children.

11) The main focus should be keeping an eye on Israel. I firmly believe he will not be a friend to Israel but will force Israel into making concessions that will lead to a Seven Year Accord, a peace agreement, a covenant with their enemies. In the middle of that agreement, Israel will be overthrown.

12) The Presidency is just a stepping stone for Obama.

OF RAPISTS AND LOVERS

....."The top rate in Sweden in 1976 was 89%, in the US it was 70%. Was Sweden and the US then communist. Redistribution of the wealth doesn't make you a communist."

.....AKAGI ...No, but redistribution of wealth is a Communist principle ...

.....If a Rapist calls himself a lover ...does that make the rape less offensive? ...

.....A Rose by any other name .....COLOSSUS

THE NAKED COMMUNIST - PART FOUR
...Exerpted from "The Naked Communist" by Cleon
Skousen http://www.nationmakers.com/com_goals.htm


36. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.

37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business.

38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the
police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral
problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but
psychiatrists can understand [or treat].

39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental
health laws as a means of gaining coercive control
over those who oppose Communist goals.

40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage
promiscuity and easy divorce.

41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the
negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices,
mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive
influence of parents.

42. Create the impression that violence and
insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American
tradition; that students and special-interest groups
should rise up and use ["]united force["] to solve
economic, political or social problems.

43. Overthrow all colonial governments before native
populations are ready for self-government.

44. Internationalize the Panama Canal.

45. Repeal the Connally reservation so the United
States cannot prevent the World Court from seizing
jurisdiction [over domestic problems. Give the World
Court jurisdiction] over nations and individuals
alike.

...It looks like a Duck to me ...the next President
should honor our founders by burning the Constitution
in a public ceremony to show that they are no longer
responsible for our present form of government
.....COLOSSUS

THE NAKED COMMUNIST - PART THREE
...Exerpted from "The Naked Communist" by Cleon
Skousen http://www.nationmakers.com/com_goals.htm

26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity
as "normal, natural, healthy."

27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed
religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible
and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which
does not need a "religious crutch."

28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious
expression in the schools on the ground that it
violates the principle of "separation of church and
state."

29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it
inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern
needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a
worldwide basis.

30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present
them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the
"common man."

31. Belittle all forms of American culture and
discourage the teaching of American history on the
ground that it was only a minor part of the "big
picture." Give more emphasis to Russian history since
the Communists took over.

32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized
control over any part of the culture -- education,
social agencies, welfare programs, mental health
clinics, etcetera.

33. Eliminate all laws or procedures which interfere
with the operation of the Communist apparatus.

34. Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American
Activities.

35. Discredit, and eventually dismantle, the FBI. .....COLOSSUS

THE NAKED COMMUNIST - PART TWO
...Democrats and
Environmentalists might not call themselves Communists
but they use Communist techniques in their quest to
take over the Country. ...

...Exerpted from "The Naked Communist" by Cleon
Skousen http://www.nationmakers.com/com_goals.htm



16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken
basic American institutions by claiming their
activities violate civil rights.

17. Get control of the schools. Use them as
transmission belts for socialism and current Communist
propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of
teachers' associations. Put the party line in
textbooks.

18. Gain control of all student newspapers.

19. Use student riots to foment public protests
against programs or organizations which are under
Communist attack.

20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review
assignments, editorial writing, policymaking
positions.

21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and
motion pictures.

22. Continue discrediting American culture by
degrading all forms of artistic expression. An
American Communist cell was told to "eliminate all
good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute
shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms."

23. Control art critics and directors of art museums.
"Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive,
meaningless art."

24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling
them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and
free press.

25. Break down cultural standards of morality by
promoting pornography and obscenity in books,
magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV. .....COLOSSUS

The Big Lie
If Americans knew the full extent of what Obama intends for the US, they would turn out in force to vote for McCain. Obama's obfuscation of his goals, affiliations, and background is accomplished by appealing to a nation's shallow, mindless obsession with celebrity and political correctness. If we want to know the future, we must look to the past. Yes, it CAN happen here just as it did in Cuba, Germany ("They won't bother us. We have a business, pay our taxes, and have wealth." -- Quote from a German Jew murdered by the Nazis), Austria, eastern Europe...
Put a frog in boiling water and he will jump out immediately; put a frog in a bucket of cold water and slowly bring it to a boil, he'll die before he knows what happened.
Let's not be put into a bucket of cold water.

THE NAKED COMMUNIST - PART ONE
...Exerpted from "The Naked Communist" by Cleon
Skousen http://www.nationmakers.com/com_goals.htm

1. U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only
alternative to atomic war.


2. U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to
engaging in atomic war.

3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by]
the United States would be a demonstration of moral
strength.

4. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of
Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not
items could be used for war.

5. Extension of long-term loans to Russia and Soviet
satellites.

6. Provide American aid to all nations regardless of
Communist domination.

7. Grant recognition of Red China. Admission of Red
China to the U.N.

8. Set up East and West Germany as separate states in
spite of Khrushchev's promise in 1955 to settle the
German question by free elections under supervision of
the U.N.

9. Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because
the United States has agreed to suspend tests as long
as negotiations are in progress.

10. Allow all Soviet satellites individual
representation in the U.N.

11. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If
its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as
a one-world government with its own independent armed
forces. (Some Communist leaders believe the world can
be taken over as easily by the U.N. as by Moscow.
Sometimes these two centers compete with each other as
they are now doing in the Congo.)

12. Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party.

13. Do away with all loyalty oaths.

14. Continue giving Russia access to the U.S. Patent
Office.

15. Capture one, or both, of the political parties in
the United States. .....COLOSSUS

IF IT LOOKS LIKE A DUCK AND QUACKS
WHAT DO DEMOCRATS WANT?


.....They want COMMUNISM ...and what better way to
accomplish that ...than by sabotaging FREE ENTERPRISE
& CAPITALISM ...

.....If the DEMOCRATS can convince enough voters that
free markets do not work ...by voting against all
development of Fossil Fuels and Nuclear Power ...so
that the economy is on the verge of collapse ...then
they can "SAVE THE DAY" with SOCIALIST programs that end up as COMMUNIST programs...

.....One doesn't have to be a card carrying member of the COMMUNIST PARTY to use the same methods to achieve the same results ...

.....POLONIUS: "Though this be maddness, yet there is method in't" .....COLOSSUS

Jeremy:
What do you mean "finally!" Many people, myself included, have pointed out that Obama is a Marxist, and McCain is a socialist. What is so special about Hollis tagging Obama with the dreaded "C" word?

Finally!
Someone said what many conservatives have been thinking. Even if you forget the tax hikes and the "spread the wealth" philosophy, the turnaround of support for Israel under a President Obama will sink us! God save democracy and the United States of America that we know and love today!!

Hollis is right.
But so what, her disingenuousness undermines the impact of her words.

Jupiter aligns with MARX
This is just what I have been doing. I have even written to McCain campaign
and told them to stop "Hinting" at what Obama is, and that he will re-distribute your income and retirement funds.

The Economy is not the most important thing in this election, its whether you have an economy, and the American Flag still flies over the Capital.

This article tells you what is coming if Obama is elected. Having worked with and talked to people who still had Tatooed Numbers on their arms from Nazi prison camps to those who lived under Communism in Russia, they are amazed that for the promise of a few scheckels, and free everything, as was done under Communism in the past, that the people in the United States, especially the young who were indoctrinated by Professors like Willaim Ayers are now willng to Vote for a person who will destroy evrything
our forefathers,grandfathers,and fathers fought against in past Wars.

I don't envy anyone just starting out in Life with young Families, who are swayed by Obama enough to believe and Vote for him.

Look at what you have, and worked for now, Property, Money, Possessions. Picture having to give 50 % or more to someone else who did not earn it or to someone who will flood the Borders under a Democrat President.

Look at what some people had in Germany prior to Hitler. What happened to their possessions, what happened to their lives., Same goes for Russia, Cuba.

History does repeat itself. Don't be fooled or focused on the Candidate just because he is Black.

Focus on his Ideology. Believe him that he will take all you worked for and give it to someone else, not just in Taxes;but physically.

Is it too late?
It seems so obvious to me...but if others haven't gotten it by now...then what can be done? It is absolutely the most frustrating and infuriating time of my life. I guess people see what they want to see, and no matter what you present as facts they refuse to even listen to reason. So be it!

YOU SAID IT LIKE IT IS
I hope somehow, we Americans who "get it" -- can keep it from becoming so. The communist agenda COUNTS on us not knowing what hit us. Unfortunately, at least half the country is clueless. (according to the polls)-- I'm praying that McCain will pull it out like Truman did. We'll get a short delay at least.

Randy Quaid in "Independence Day"
"Ain't I been sayin' it, Miguel? Ain't I been sayin' it?"

This has been my point in my not-well-circulated blog for months now. And John McCain's failure to come out IN THE DEBATE and challenge Obama on this point is nearly criminal.

Controlling the Media Even More?
When the switch from analog to digital T,V. goes into effect,does that mean they'll have even more control over what they want us to see or not to see? That is my question. I have the creepy feeling it will be watching us.Why does everything have to be under surveilance anyway?

Poland Feels Our Pain
Great article. My colleague in Poland says that the Poles fear that America is being socialized! He says that's not good for us or for them. He should know. Let's keep in mind the following:

"The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under the name of 'liberalism' they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing how it happened." Norman Thomas, Socialist Party Presidential Candidate in 1940, 1944 and 1948, co-founder of the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU).

Thank You, Retired Geek

You bring so much valued information to the table. We thank you, Retired Geek.

Would you consider taking this vast information to a news outlet? or maybe you already have.

We cannot thank you enough for the insights you share. It is difficult to hear you confirm much of what conservatives fear. However, this information needs to get to a news dissemination outlet.

Please at least consider contacting news outlets with your knowledge and sources.

Again, you have been very helpful.

And.....to 7sticks.....William Ayres set bombs in the Pentagon and Capitol Building and Armed Services recruiting stations, etc. Seven people were murdered. He got off on technicalities.

McCain and Palin in 2008!


The List of Saints is Incomplete
Amen to the thrust of your article.

But your list of Communist patron saints should include Che Guevarra, Ho Chi Minh, and Kim (the father) Il Sung.

Also, the documented involvement of a sitting Senator Obama with the political campaign in Kenya is a serious omission to the litany of wrong doings. This case is more acute as the guy advocated implementatio of Sharia law. Which indicates how dangerous BHO is based on the alliances he is capable of making.

It's not too late to wake up
It's not too late to try to wake up the Americans who are the reason that Obama is leading in the polls. Do we really want out country being run by a man who wants to control every aspect of our lives? We've got to spread the word about what kind of man Barack Obama really is. Say no to the leftist illuminati that is Barack Obama.

The P word again
It must be asked, how is what Obama advocates any different in principle than what McCain advocates? The only difference is the absolute amount of dollars, if that. They both want mandatory national service, they both believe in the global warming religion, they both believe in bailouts and whatever pragmatic--yes, Ms. Hollis, pragmatic--"compromises" they deem necessary to quell a crisis. The list goes on and on.

But Has He KILLED Anyone?
It would only matter if he himself has ever been proven to have actually killed a human being, which the Soviet communists did regularly. It would only matter if he had participated in divulging information to our enemies the way the Rosenbergs have clearly been proven to have been doing for the Soviets. And they were rightfully executed because what they did harmed our country and threatened the lives of millions of innocent American lives.

But to say someone is a communist based on the fact that he has associated himself with an old hippie who blew up police cruisers like all the hippies were doing back then, it's a little hard to prove, isn't it? Or that he was in the pews of a pastor who probably isn't that much better than any of those church pastors who decided to defy the federal government and threaten their parishoners with eternal damnation if they didn't vote the way THEY wanted them to, it's a little hard to swallow.

Remember ....
most of these kids who adore Obama have gone to schools that implemented ...

COOPERATIVE LEARNING ...

which is really COMMUNISM in the classroom...

One or two students do all the work and the rest of the students get the grade .... so

they have already been brainwashed to believe ...

a) I don' have to do the work ... I'll get the grade

or ....

b) I'll do the work and give everybody will share my grade...

You can bet that most of Obama's legions were the ones NOT doing the work...

just "spreding the grade around" man ...

just "spreading the grade around"...

The "C" Word
You hit the nail smack dab on the head!!

The C-word
God bless you for finally speaking the truth about the evil in waiting behind the Obama campaign.
John in MA

Akagi
Was Lenin mistaken when he said, "The goal of socialism is communism?"

Obama obfuscates Tax on Small Business

Barack Obama will only tax those small businesses that make more than $250,000 a year.

Barack Obama knows he is speaking to his followers who think with feelings and not facts, logic and reason.

Obama followers think small businesses are a 'Mom and a Pop' shop, when in fact many small businesses have hunderds of employees and millions in income..

What is a small business as defined by the 'Small Business Adminastration'?
----------------------------------------------------------

For SEC purposes, small businesses are defined as domestic companies with revenues of under $25 million, and not investment companies. Subsidiaries of larger companies do not qualify as small businesses.

A small business is an concern that is organized for profit, with a place of business in the United States, and which operates primarily within the United States or makes a significant contribution to the U.S. economy through payment of taxes or use of American products, materials or labor.

Further, the concern cannot be dominant in its field, on a national basis. Finally, the concern must meet the numerical small business size standard for its industry. SBA has established a size standard for most industries in the U.S. economy. The most common size standards are as follow:

500 employees for most manufacturing and mining industries

100 employees for all wholesale trade industries

$7.0 million for most retail and service industries

$33.5 million for most general & heavy construction industries

$14.0 million for all special trade contractors

$0.75 million for most agricultural industries

http://www.sba.gov/services/contractingopportunities/sizest andardstopics/index.html

http://www.sba.gov/services/contractingopportunities/sizest andardstopics/faqs/index.html

Well, What Next?
OK, call it what it is…Communism...Right! It has been coming and is here, now, as Ms Hollis notes. Further she says, “…communism depends upon arrogance, ignorance, deceit, and complicity. Are you talking about US families and children who might be happy with meeting Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs through Communism as opposed to being lied to under the current administration?
“Shame on your greed and shame your wicked schemes. I don’t give a damn about your pleas,” Bob Dylan (Modern Times).
Well, I encourage all you Libertarians to post what you intend to do about this current state of affairs. I don’t believe that you’ll be able to stop it, so how do you propose to profit from it? Clue: Start reading Time Magazine Archives, http://www.time.com/time/magazine/0,9263,7601230317,00.htm l
Best Wishes Comrade.

Which Team Do You Want?
Obama's -

Joe Biden
Rev Wright
Franklin Raines
William Ayers
Jim Johnson
Howard Dean

McCain's -

Sarah Palin
Mitt Romney
Steve Forbes
Joe Lieberman
Rudy Guilani
Michael Steele

Which team do you want running our country?

"Messiah"
Urgent!!!
An important report:
"A Messiah Manufactured by Marxism"(The United Socialist States of America) by Judi McCleod, October 16, 2008
Details at:
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/5600

The NAACP Supports the "C" Word
The NAACP supports both "C" Words.
After the election they plan to change one word in their logo from one c to the other c.

Dictionary.com http://dictionary.reference.com/search?

Rac•ism
A policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.

Dis•crim•i•na•tion
Something that serves to differentiate.

Does this represent racism, discrimination or indifference?
THE NAACP
IS TODAY
National Association for the
Advancement of Colored People

Or Does this represent racism?

THE NAAWP
IS TODAY
National Association for the
Advancement of White People

That bad word “WHITE” sure changes the meaning of the slogan to a bad thing, such magic.

Now, now before you start calling me names you need to know if I am White or Black.

Your choices are:
• That racist White Honkey!
• That trader Uncle Tom!

It is a miracle how “white” trumps all to equal automatic racism no matter the statement or question about OBAMA or OCOMMIE.

If the NAACP really represents all people, then “Dump the C” and dump Obama.

Obama's Sacrifice for the Common Good

The idea that 'Sacrifice For The Common Good' supersedes private interests and rights can have but one meaning: that the interests and rights of some 'Collectivist Group' take precedence over the interests and rights of others.

Anyone who has ever studied Game Theory in mathmatics has heard about 'Zero Sum Theory'.

One of the things I learned in Game Theory was that 'zero sum' is an interaction in which one participant's gains result only from another's equivalent losses.

When Liberals and Democrats (collectivists) institute their solutions like 'Affirmative Action', the rights they give to the 'collectivist group' in favor, results in taking rights from others who are in dis-favor or in other words "moral equivalence".

Every United States Citizen should have the same rights and protections under the United States Constitution and Bill of Rights - no more - no less.

Liberals and Democrats believe this "moral equivalence" promotes justice and the well being of the American Citizen and displays the Liberal "moral superiority" over Conservatives.

Barack Obama's clarion call to "Sacrifice for the Common Good" - to redistribute wealth, as Obama said to 'Joe the Plumber', "letting those behind catch up".

Karl Marx's slogan, 'from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs'.

Someone explain the difference?

Why did Obama choose Tim Wheeler?

Tim Wheeler is a National Board member of the Communist Party USA (CPUSA), and has been a key figure in the party's Baltimore chapter since the early 1970s.

From 1991 to 2003 he was editor of the CPUSA newspaper People's Weekly World, and he currently serves as the publication's national political correspondent.

In 2008 Wheeler became a prominent figure in Barack Obama’s presidential campaign.

He helped organize local canvassing and visibility events for Barack Obama, and he chronicled his experiences on the campaign trail in a blog that appeared on the Obama campaign website.

Why did Obama choose Carl Davidson?
Who is Carl Davidson - who helped organize the rally in 2002 where the featured speaker was Barack Obama?

Carl Davidson, who was one of SDS’s three elected national officers in 1968.

1) Marxist anti-war activist.

2) Former member of Students for a Democratic Society.

3) Political supporter of Barack Obama.


Carl Davidson joined Michael Klonsky (leader of the New Communist Movement) in rejecting traditional politics for fringe Marxist movements.

More recently, he helped organize the 2002 rally in which Obama first spoke out against the Iraq War and now serves as the webmaster of Progressives for Obama.

In 1992 Davidson became a leader of the newly formed Committees of Correspondence, a Marxist coalition of former Maoists, Trotskyists, and Communist Party USA members.

The organization has since changed its name to the 'Committees of Correspondence for Democracy and Socialism', where Davidson remains a prominent figure.

Davidson was a major player in the Chicago branch of the 'New Party', a Marxist political coalition.

Most New Party members hailed from the 'Committees of Correspondence', 'the Democratic Socialists of America', and the militant leftist organization ACORN.

Carl Davidson first met Barack Obama through the 'New Party', which endorsed the Barack Obama in his run for the Illinois state senate in 1996.

Obama had actively sought this endorsement, and he used a number of New Party volunteers as campaign workers.

Conservative commentators...
are throwing terms like socialist, Marxist, and now communist around a lot lately. You sound desperate. You should look in the mirror. Conservatives are a bit socialist themselves. Bush and the Republican party have effectively embraced socialism with bailouts and farm subsidies and prescription drug benefit and Sarbanes/Oxley and much, much more. But that's happened before under the likes of other socialistic Republicans such as Nixon, Hoover and Theodore Roosevelt. Conservatives unfortunately idolize the government no less than leftists. For them it's the embodiment of God on earth.

wolf in sheeps clothing
Obama is just following the rules for radicals. Saul Alinsky wrote that the way to take over is to come from within. let the middle class do the work, do it quietly, no revolutions, no violence, just words. read it and weep.

Who is Michael Klonsky?

Did Barack Obama chose the choose the bloggers on his Campaign Website carefully?

Michael Klonsky (born 1943) is an American educator and political activist, a leader of the New Communist Movement.

Michael Klonsky, whose disgust for mainstream politics led him to launch a new, Maoist Communist Party in the 1970s, today supports Barack Obama so enthusiastically that until recently he was blogging on the Illinois senator’s Official campaign website.

“My own support for Obama is not a reflection of a radically changed attitude toward the Democratic Party, rather, it’s a recognition that the Obama campaign has become a rallying point for young activists and offers hope for rebuilding the civil rights and antiwar coalitions that have potential to become a real critical force in society.” Michael Klonsky.

Michael Klonsky is the former leader of SDS - Students for a Democratic Society.

Don Juan Not shocking
That some would try to find McCain a non natural citizen. In fact I think its right in line with politics as usual.

As to the legal fine points of the law I too will let see what the courts have to say about it.

Barack Obama's Suppression of Dissent

Barack Obama claims 'All Citizens are Equal', but some are 'More Equal Than Others' by Affirmative Action' and Patriots MUST be willing to 'Sacrifice for the Common Good'. A look at History tells us that we have heard that from Socialists before.
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The German Workers' Party name was changed by Hitler to include the term National Socialist. Thus the full name was the National Socialist German Workers' Party (Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei or NSDAP) called for short, Nazi.

Some of Hitler's demands:
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22. We demand the abolition of the regular army and the creation of a national (folk) army.

23. We demand that there be a legal campaign against those who propagate deliberate political lies and disseminate them through the press. In order to make possible the creation of a German press, we demand:

Newspapers transgressing against the common welfare shall be suppressed. We demand legal action against those tendencies in art and literature that have a disruptive influence upon the life of our folk, and that any organizations that offend against the foregoing demands shall be dissolved.

COMMON GOOD BEFORE INDIVIDUAL GOOD
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I am NOT comparing Barack Obama to Hitler.

I AM comparing Barack Obama to history and his suppression of anyone who speaks against Obama or his agenda.

Most, if NOT all Liberals think Marxist/Socialism cannot do ANY HARM - history refutes that claim.

Barack Obama will bring Marxism/Socialism to America.

Akagi, #111
Yes, Obama is not a member of the Communist Party, he understands that nobody would vote for him inh this case. But neither was Lenin who was a member of a fraction of the Russian Social-Democratic Labor Party - bol'shevik. And nobody called him communist at the time of the Great October Socialist Revolution (again, it was not called Communist revolution) that was interestingly celebrated on November 7 in Soviet Union. I know it was because of the calendar change, I am just pointing at striking similarity- Nov 4 and Nov 7. But Lenin was a Marxist as Obama is. And Soviet Union was not a communist country even in 80s, they called it an era of developed socialism. "From everybody by ability, to everybody by needs" was a goal not a reality. But it was not a problem for the leaders to call themselves communists.
Communists have evolved since 1917 and we are not going to witness the Great November Socialist Revolution. They are not going to come a power by revolution but they are going to destroy capitalism from inside taking over media, schools, etc. which we are witnessing right now.
The problem with Obama is that he doesn't reveal who he is. He knows that he can't. He denies his connections and associations until he is in the corner. Thanks to the conservative media we are now putting the pieces of the puzzle together.

Cleon Skousen
I revise my remarks what does Cleon Skousen know about the goals of the communist party since he we assume was not one. Many of the goals he wrote down seem to be typical conservative boiler plate rather than the goals of say the CP of the USSR or the CCP, etc.

Albert Herlong
And was he a member of the communist party so he would actually know the goals? Also, care to post a link that is not from some wacko's blog entry? Like maybe an official government site.


Akaqi et al

Your declarations are meaningless.

Who cares what you think or theorize about Marxism??

Vote for Obama-Marxism if you will.

Communist Goals for America since 1963

I have the 45 goals the Communists have for America, that was read into the Congressional Record in 1963. You will be amazed at how the Communists have succeeded by 2008 - 45 years later. I have listed five (5) examples
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Communist Goals (1963) Congressional Record--Appendix, pp. A34-A35 January 10, 1963
Current Communist Goals EXTENSION OF REMARKS OF HON. A. S. HERLONG, JR. OF FLORIDA IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES Thursday, January 10, 1963 .

16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.

17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.

24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.

25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.

26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."

http://HISfacts.blogtownhall.com/2008/08/18/communists_45_g oals_in_1963.thtml



Geek
Pure communism doesn't recognize race as a legitimate construct, but even using the CPUSA terms, being in a racist church would not make you a communist, if it did the KKK and various Aryan groups would be communists now wouldn't they?


USPatriot56....

Let us hope, against reason, that it does not come to that pass.

When the going gets tough, most of these soft pink babies will
change their minds as soon as they get really hungry, or face
harsh reality, whichever comes first.

24 hours?

Hate to say it butt he isn't a communist
He is though a Saul Alinsky trined socialist, sometimes its hard to tell them apart. His training is more in line with the NSDP in Germany 1930's which gave us the brownshirts (Obama's Civilian National force), Adolph Hitler (Mein Kampf/ObamaDreams from my father/audacity of hope (both probably written by AYERS) and whatever indoctrination he got from the New Party. But he is a Socialist Leftist, not quite communist.

Egon
I find it interesting that as a conservative you set up shop in a country governed by people who are explicitly socialists.


45caliber: Are you suggesting that before communism people weren't interested in sex? Are the NFL and the NBA communist fronts? What about NASCAR?

"C-word" charge helps Obama
I see Laura Hollis has just started posting columns on Townhall within the past month or so. Ms. Hollis, you wouldn't happen to be a "mole" or agent provocateur for the Obama campaign, would you? I wonder, because this business of calling left-wing liberal Obama a "Communist"-- implying, a supporter of total nationalization of the economy, one-party dictatorship, and mass murder-- has the potential to help the Obama campaign far more than McCain's.

Nobody who was remotely likely ever to vote for Obama is going to believe the "Communist" charge. But if Obama supporters pick up on this and headline, "Right-Wing Website Calls Obama a Communist!" they can present this-- along with the allegations of "kill him" shouts at McCain rallies and the like-- as proof that opponents of Obama are frantic, desperate, "McCarthyist" and even deranged. And thereby influence independents against McCain-- and discredit *legitimate* arguments against voting for Obama. (I personally think there are plenty of legitimate reasons to vote against Obama. Unfortuantely, there are also plenty of legitimate reasons to vote against McCain.)

Only fools
Don Juan:

8 USC 1403 is pretty clear on this point. McCain is a "natural born" US ciitzen and thus he is eligible to be President of the United States.


Some of us will have to die...
for the cause of freedom...

For Obama is a tyrant in waiting and if you've read any of the hateful, moronic, imbecilic thngs that ...

Obama trolls have written...

then the hadwriting should be on the wall...

Its...

time to make sure the powder is dry...

Sam Webb disagrees with Akaqi

"...Moreover, it is ready to strike the first and absolutely necessary blow in a few weeks, that is, to elect Barack Obama and bigger majorities in the House and Senate by a landslide..."

Author: Sam Webb, National Chair, Communist Party USA
First published 09/27/2008 17:43

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"..marxism also says that state is an arena of struggle.

While the ruling class employs the state apparatus, including violence when necessary, to impose its interests on society, a united working class and people can successfully resist these measures from within as well as outside state structures.

This was done in the 1930s and in so doing, secured important victories for the nation’s working class and its allies.

It was also done in the 1960s and in doing so brought down the system of legal segregation. And we see it again today in the incredible efforts of millions of working people of all races and nationalities and their allies to elect Barack Obama and larger Democratic Party Congressional majorities in November.

Indeed, it is a task that takes on even greater significance given the financial storm that is shaking our country."

Author: Sam Webb, National Chair,
Communist Party USA
First published 09/23/2008 17:20



Frank Marshall Davis - Barrack Obama Men

There is an old Spanish saying.
“Tell me who you walk with, and I will tell you WHO YOU ARE!”

"I chose my friends carefully. The more politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos. The Marxist professors and structural feminists and punk-rock performance poets." - Barack Obama (Dreams of My Father)

When Barack Obama was about 10 years old his maternal grandfather thought that Obama needed a black man as a role model for his grandson - he chose Frank Marshall Davis.

1) Communist writer and poet (1905-1987)

2) Dedicated supporter of the Soviet Union and enemy of America.

Frank Marshall Davis (1905-1987) was a black poet and writer (he wrote for the Honolulu Record, a Communist newspaper), and a known member of the Soviet-controlled Communist Party USA (CPUSA).

Davis was identified unequivocally as a CPUSA member in a 1951 report of the Commission on Subversive Activities to the Legislature of the Territory of Hawaii (CSALTH), which, along with HUAC, also charged that Davis was affiliated with a number of communist-front organizations.

Davis penned many poems during his lifetime. One of them, titled "To the Red Army," hailed the Soviet revolution and condemned the "rich industrialists" in Washington DC and London who allegedly wanted Hitler and the Nazis to "wipe Communism from the globe."

Davis also wrote poems deriding traditional Christianity. In some of these compositions, Davis called Christ "a Dixie Ni**er" who was nothing more than "another New White Hope"; he derided Christians as hypocrites "who buy righteousness like groceries"; and he spoke of Africans being killed with a "Christian gun" by missionaries following "the religion of Sweet Jesus," rather than by a spear.


HAMAS and Obama

Ali Abunimah is a Palestinian American who co-founded Electronic Intifada, a website that seeks to discredit what it deems “the prevailing pro-Israeli slant in U.S. media coverage by offering information from a Palestinian perspective.” With close ties to the International Solidarity Movement, Electronic Intifada refers to Israel’s 1948 creation as Al Nakba (Arabic for “The Catastrophe”).

In the late 1990s, Abunimah met Barack Obama for the first time when the latter was a representative in the Illinois state senate. “He [Obama] impressed me as progressive, intelligent and charismatic,” says Abunimah. “I distinctly remember thinking, ‘if only a man of this caliber could become president one day.’”

In 2001 and 2002, the Woods Fund of Chicago, whose board of directors included Barack Obama, made grants totaling $75,000 to Abunimah’s AAAN.

In January 2008, Abunimah told interviewer Amy Goodman: “I knew Barack Obama for many years as my state senator -- when he used to attend events in the Palestinian community in Chicago all the time.

I remember personally introducing him onstage in 1999, when we had a major community fundraiser for the community center in Deheisha refugee camp in the occupied West Bank. And that’s just one example of how Barack Obama used to be very comfortable speaking up for and being associated with Palestinian rights and opposing the Israeli occupation.”


Palmer Exposes Obama lie

During the Cold War, Palmer supported the Soviet Union and spoke against the United States.

In the 1980s she served as an executive board member of the U.S. Peace Council, which the FBI identified as a Communist front group (and which was an affiliate of the World Peace Council, an international Soviet front).

In the mid-1990s, Palmer attended a number of political meetings at the Chicago-area home of her friends and ideological allies, former Weatherman terrorists Bill Ayers and his wife Bernardine Dohrn.

At those gatherings, Palmer developed a friendly relationship with another attendee, a young aspiring politician named Barack Obama.

As Palmer prepared to leave the state senate and run for the US Congress, she hand-picked Barack Obama as the person she most wanted to fill her newly vacated senate seat.

Toward that end, she introduced Obama to party elders and donors as her preferred successor, and helped him gather the signatures required for getting his name placed on the ballot.

Alice Palmer was defeated in the Congressional race and asked Barack Obama to withdraw from the race for her former seat.

Obama refused to withdraw so she ran against him and gathered the necessary signatures on her petition.

Obama promptly challenged the legitimacy of those signatures and charged Palmer with fraud.

A subsequent investigation found that a number of the names on Palmer’s signature list were invalid, thus she was knocked off the ballot.

“I liked Alice Palmer a lot, I thought she was a good public servant." Barack Obama
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Barack Obama will discard anyone when he is finished using them. I wonder how he would have treated her if he didn't like her?

Akagi let me be
clear I dont believe there is an issue with Obamas citizenship status.

My question is that if it were true that there was a issue of citizenship how would that not be a concern of every citizen of the U.S. and how if the situation were correct as stated in my first paragraph, exactly how would it be that Obama would have more of a right to citizenship then McCain?

Don Juan has not even attempted to correct the issue just dismiss peoples concern out of hand. If a person wants honest debate then debate honestly.

lipstick
Taken in whole or in part, Obama is no communist.

And no, my name is not.

Doug:

Since he was born to an American woman who had lived in the US for the required amount of years (five) and which two of them were after she was the age of 14 that thus makes Obama a US citizen no matter if he had been born in downtown Pyongyang.

Another one
"* attended a church led by a racist, black supremacist, anti-American bigot;"

That wouldn't make you a communist, it could make you a Nazi, if the "master race" was now black instead of Aryan. The communists didn't view race as a legitimate construct--only one construct was important--class. Going to a racist church doesn't make you a communist--are the Aryan Brotherhood communists? Being anti-American doesn't make you a communist either. Is the League of the South communist? Many in the Alaska Independence Party (who favor secession) communist? Aryan Nations who call the US the Zionist Occupied Government? How about some of the most far, loons in the anti-Abortion movement who have called for "patriots" to get nuclear weapons and use them against the US.

Anti-Americanism is not just for communists.

Don Juan certainly you jest
McCain being born to American citizens on a American military post is less of right to American citizenship then someone supposedly born outside the U.S. to parents of questionable citizenship status? Furthermore that any American citizen does not have a vested legal interest in seeing that American constitutional law is upheld?

Your going to have to explain that one to me as to why that makes sense in a legal way.

Personaly I dont think the rumors are true that Obamas citizenship status is in question, but if the situation were as described by the above paragraph, then merely dismissing it as a right wing non issue would be intelectually dishonest.

Akagi, #105
of course, if you take one policy at a time you cannot call Obama a commie. What we are talking about here is the whole sum of policies and associations that make Obama a commie.

Is your real name Arkadiy?

Obama the Unifierist
He's not a Communist.

He just espouses all of the things Communists espouse.

The author is obviously racist.

Obama is a unifier. See how he is unifying the country right now. Lot's of soothing words. None of his dozens of alliances with radicals mean anything. He's a tax-cutter, not a tax-raiser. He will create wealth, not destroy it. He will follow and enforce those principles of the Constitution that he approves of. His disciples all know this, and they aren't racists.

Jack #27
Hey kiddo...what do you mean we're losing? This ain't a football game in the first quarter or something. The only score they keep is the one that's run up on November 4th.

Oh it'll be close alright because so many people want things given to them these days because they can't figure out who pays for everything in the long run. The 59% who consider themselves center right in this country will not sit idly by while your communist, socialist, unqualified, lying, baby-killing, redistributing, wealth spreading, vote stealing, half-white man will have lost.

Come the 5th you'll all be crying foul and saying Oblahma lost because we're all racists and busting up the place. You'll never get it through your thick skulls that the haves will never sit by while they have-nots try to steal their money at the ballot box. Fortunately there are still more productive citizens in this country than non. It's not that people don't care about those less fortunate than them - it's just they will not stand by and allow the gov't to force them to support them. I give where I can but my family comes first.

You guys just keep pushing and there's gonna be a backlash - as Hussein will be finding out soon.

Okay, we'll take just one or two
"* offered questionable “support” for the Second Amendment “right to bear arms” – as long as it isn’t in self-defense..."

Fascist regimes and democracies (Japan, Taiwan) as well as communist states ban fire arms. Banning fire arms doesn't make one per se a communist.

"* proposed his version of “from each according to his ability, to each according to his need;” (plumbers – plumbers, for pity’s sake, should pay more taxes???)"

High taxes doesn't make one a communist either as Sweden's top rate in the 1970s was nearly 90%.

I could take Bush's policies and make him appear to be a Nazi too, but it doesn't make him one now does it?


Stealth Bomber
Obama is a stealth bomber for socialism and maybe communism, flying under cover of radar, ready to drop the payload. Combined with his megalomaniac tendencies with his love for giant crowd events, get ready for scary times and large posters of him all over our cities like the dictators have in third world countries. You can see the posters when you stand in a soup line.

To Jack in PA.....
"the following "Current Communist Goals," which she identifies as an excerpt from "The Naked Communist," by Cleon Skousen:
[From "The Naked Communist," by Cleon Skousen]"

"It has no connection to actual communists or to communism." (YOUR comments)

Oh really?


Definition
Communism is a socioeconomic structure that promotes the establishment of an egalitarian, classless, stateless society based on common ownership of the means of production and property in general.[1][2][3] Leninists have attempted to produce communist societies by setting up political parties, which in some cases have become governments. These attempts have never produced a communist society, and have frequently led to totalitarian states.[citation needed]

Communism is usually considered to be a branch of socialism, a broad group of social and political ideologies, which draws on the various political and intellectual movements with origins in the work of theorists of the Industrial Revolution and the French Revolution.[4] Communism attempts to offer an alternative to the problems believed to be inherent with capitalist economies and the legacy of imperialism and nationalism. Communism states that the only way to solve these problems is for the working class, or proletariat, to replace the wealthy bourgeoisie, which is currently the ruling class, in order to establish a peaceful, free society, without classes, or government.[2] The dominant forms of communism, such as Leninism, Stalinism, Maoism and Trotskyism are based on Marxism, but non-Marxist versions of communism (such as Christian communism and anarchist communism) also exist.


.45
Challenge you to prove that one.

Silver Lion:
In 1968 the Air Force Academy printed the THREE rules the American Communist Party had adopted and were following for take-over of the U.S. They checked with the ACP to insure that they were still in use and were told they were.

1. Destroy the ruggedness of the American people by turning their attention to spectator sports and sex.

2. Take control of all news media to prevent the people from knowing what is going on in the legislative halls and to tear down the image of any natural leader the people might want to follow.

3. Disarm the population through gun control.

Sounds as if SOMEONE is following those rules - and has already acomplished 2 and possibly 1. They are working hard on 3.

MKS
You are right. The Liberals do NOT try to prove any of her comments are not try because they are true. Instead they call names and attack McCain. For instance, I've seen many of them say something like, "Well, yes, Obama is liberal. But so is McCain and here is the proof. Therefore you should vote for Obama." Makes a lot of sense, doesn't it?

If you are very nice and you repeat yourself many times, sometimes they will give you a straight answer - but you really have to probe for it. And even their straight answers are usually shaded. "Yes, but ..."

I've always been told that calling names is the sign of a small mind. I think most Liberals prove that.

Obama only has 3 years to live???
I wonder if RNC plans to do this analysis. I am not being mean-spirited, but since the Team Obama often cites the high potential for McCain to die soon and Palin does not have enough experience to be the Commander in Chief, I think we should do some SCIENTIFIC analysis,

The maximum "mean" of Obama's parents age is 50 (Father died at 46, Mother died at 53. Total live span=99.) -- If this means anything, Barak Obama only has 3 more years to live, assuming his addiction to cigarette has not causing any health problem.

The minimum "mean" of John McCain's age is 83 (Father died at 70, Mother is 96 and still feisty as ever. Total age=166. ) --- McCain will live another 11 years AT LEAST, if Roberta quit kicking donkies this year.

Either way, it looks like the chance of McCain outlive Obama is GRRRREAT!

Can you use this in GOP campaign? I am sure I am not the only person wondering about their potential life span.


USA Conservatron
Pay attention. Read what I wrote, not what you imagine I wrote.

Do you guys take a training course in ignoring reality or does it come natural?

Jack -
Please enlighten us all regarding anything to do with communism that IS NOT negative?!

I can't believe I'm actually askig a U.S. citizen that question?? What a minute, that's it, you lefties are all plants - you're not really U.S. citizens are you?? That must be the case, there couldn't be another answer, because any decent, patriotic U.S. citizen wouldn't be so naive, would they?

Let's redo the primaries
Okay, so we are finally hearing out loud what we all knew (suspected) all along. To many issues and too many unknnowns witheverything we know to be dangerously negative -yet the people want him. We've had too much propaganda from the media -starting hevily with "W" being systematically destroyed. When large numbers of people believe he took down the trade Center and went to war for Haliburton it doesn't take much to get them to think communism/marxism/socialism -what ever you wish to call it -throw in cultural suicide with infanticide openly identified and openly ignored by the masses. We are ripe to replicate the worst horrors of the past century, simply because the left has been serious and actively ruining the country while the right has been busy runnning the country.

McCain could have well been selected by the left he is such an incompetent candidate.
This stuff should have been shouted from the rooftops from day one.

That they could so easily come so far, is sadly, evidence that democracy doesn't work withso many ready rto give their freedoms over to big government. It will fall far faster than anyone could imagine.

YESSSS!!!!!!
THANKS FOR HAVING THE COURAGE TO CALL OBAMA WHAT HE IS.

But of course, it obviously goes way beyond Obama.

Maybe we really are at the threshold of the end times . . .

Silver Lion
The list you propagate is utter hogwash. It is a fabrication written into the public record by a rabid anti-communist. It has no connection to actual communists or to communism.

You can find a lot negative things to say about communism that are true. Why do you persist in peddling a lie instead. Do you not realize it destroys your credibility on the topic?


Don Whiney
No, it is not in doubt, you are grabbing at air like so many libs do.

What IS in doubt is the birthplace of your communist candidate. Why won't he produce an original valid birth certificate? He could put the whole thing to rest, but he won't. One of two things, he is simply arrogant or there isn't one to produce.

That's ok, the truth will eventually come out. True Americans (you libs are not) will keep exposing him. The truth tellers are not going away - the obamacrimes.com website will keep fighting. When he is finally exposed as the fraud that he is, you can all move to Cuba or Russia or China - they love your kind over there. LOL

THANK YOU
Thank you Ms Hollis, for finally saying it exactly as it needs to be said! How I WISH McCain had had this kind of testosterone. I don't think he gets it yet, either. The leftists are NOT his friends. They may well have named him the "Maverick", but that was only so long as he wasn't a threat to THEM.

I have been saying it for longer than than my voice held out- THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT LIBERALS- they ARE leftists- COMMUNISTS. And they will do to us exactly what every communist regime has done to its people since the turn of the century.
As to the "useful idiots" (didn't Marx know his followers well!)- you are NOT good enough for the elitists who run you. To imagine that YOUR fate will be somehow different from the rest of us is to be an idiot, for sure.
Go ahead and vote for Obama. Who can expect more from you than sniffing after an empty suit? You people are pathetic and dangerous in your ignorance.

Splitting hairs
How about this: Obama is a communist preparing the way for a communist United States.

"The bourgeoisie is just as necessary a precondition for the socialist revolution as is the proletariat itself."
- Karl Marx


Evaluate Barak's economic philosophy:

"From each, according to his ability; to each, according to his need."
-Karl Marx

"I think when you spread the wealth around, it's good for everybody."
-Barak Obama

The list I put forward....
is the public record...and yes Akagi, there is NO Soviet Union....at the moment!

The list is intended for debate purposes only.....is it all hogwash or BS....or have some of these steps materialized?

Is Ms. Hollis McCarthy's "daughter" as alluded....or is she a brilliant writer and true American?


Obama: Capitalist Puppet
Another "C" word that Obama seems to believe in is Capitalism. No other candidate has been bankrolled by Capitalist the way Obama has.

C is for CIA
Great essay! Scary, but great...I have a lot of faith in our CIA. If there're nefarious doings behind the scenes of Obama and friends, our CIA works in silent ways...part of their job description. They're not stupid, like the left-wing media is! Signed, Big CIA fan.

Lets use the "C" word: Conservative
Laura Hollis, I applaud you, the Obamas Conservatism is dangerous for our nation.

C word ,yeah that worked
I'm not sure enough people really give a hoot about the C word anymore. In fact, as Akagi has been trying to point out I'm not sure a majority of the people could tell the difference between communism and socialism. The fact that many people explain that Nazis and American conservatives are on the same side of the political spectrum speaks volumes as to the amount of disinformation or lack of understanding there truely is out there.

Shouting about Obama's communist leanings is not going to swing the race in McCains favor, especially when many of McCains policies seem so simular to Obama's.

Be Specific
As I read through these comments, I see Obama supporters use the typical tired terminology: "screed," "mindless drivel," "wing nut," etc.. I also see them try to turn attention to Sen. McCain's shortcomings.

But Ms. Hollis gave very specific references supporting why she thought "communist" was an appropriate term for Sen. Obama. Apparently, he has little commitment to private property or free speech.

If any criticisms of this article rebutted one or more of these cogent references, I missed it.

Sandn...
Iraq was? Care to explain to us why it was the next logical step? As a jumping off point for Iran? Well, that's worked out well hasn't it?


Great article...
western bondbeam...can you find where that quote regarding the national security force came from? I'd like to forward the actual article around. This is one of the most troubling things he says, along with "wealth redistribution." We have a "national security force" and those are the Army, Navy, Coast Guard, Marine Corps and National Guard, etc. We do not need a civilian national security force.

Longing for that Golden Wingnut Era
Ms. Hollis's screed reminds me of the extreme right-wing stuff I encountered at the height of the Cold War. I'm sure she would have been much happier living and writing at a time when over-the-edge conservatives could link a tangible global threat---i.e., the communist sphere of influence---to all the people and groups they considered too liberal. You know, stuff like "Joe Doaks went to a high school where a teacher was once seen reading Das Kapital, and Joe himself is a Unitarian and belongs to some group that is trying to stop the arms race. We sure can't trust someone like that."

Ms. Hollis does make one wise observation: "If we dismantle the very procedural protections that were put into place to protect us from tyranny (by people who had lived with tyranny and knew it well), then tyranny is what we will get." Thus, I wonder why she isn't demanding the prosecution of people well-known for their attempts to dismantle those protections---George W. Bush and Co.---rather than engaging in this laughable, anachronistic effort to turn Obama into a '50s era pinko.

Socialism--Big Mick
The goals of communism and the goals of socialism are not the same.


Obama made the following statement a
few months ago.

"We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we've set. We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded."
--------
The main question is really what exactly does the Obama camp mean by that statement?

"Civilian national security force" is not your everyday typical terms that polititians use. Obama didn't use police department or county sherriffs or state police or Coast Guard or any other terms. Maybe he mispoke or meant something different, either way, his campaign has not said much about it and hasn't set the record any clearer on exactly what it is Obama was trying to convey. Any Obama supporters what try a hand at what Obama meant?

Feeling No Pain cause the Truth does hur
UHF4-CH4, TH. No balls, no bull, no substance, no sheite.

Look at a map if you can read.

Iraq was the next logical Strategic Front in the War for Survival Against the Sandnazis.

That you don't get that says nothing good about YOUR intellect.

I WANT us having a sheite load of Combat Hardened Heavy Brigades canmped on the Political, Economic, Cultural and Religious Center's of Gravity of the Republic's Sworn enemies.
I want us killn more and more Ragheads every day till they are all dead.

YOu want to surrender then stick your wife in a burka and head over there.

the big mick

But there is
But there is a difference.

Unless you think there was no difference between say Sweden in 1976 and the PRC in 1976?

AK
YES! YOU GET IT! MOST OF THE WORLD IS SOCIALISTCOMIQR REDISTRIBUTIONIST AND WE DON'T WANT ANYMORE OF THAT EUROFAG SHEITE HERE!

And we are using the term to accurately describe the Act, the Aim, the Purpose, the Effect, the PRINCIPLE that the State ASSUMES (FALSELY and WRONGLY) the Right to STEAL PRIVATE PROPERTY AND REDISTRIBUTE IT "FOR THE COMMON GOOD" that's COMMUNISM, that's SOCIALISM, that's THEFT by the STATE and it is WRONG, EVIL and UNCONSTITUTIONAL IN AMERICA!

Just cause you LIKE it Ak doesn't make you anything but a UnAmerican Thief Lover. Being in denial about what it actually DOES does your intellect no credit.

mick

Akaqi:
I always wondered who the Easter Bunny was and now I know. I'd like several chocolate bunnies next Easter please.

Hey, How about an "ist" Tourney!....
Ok, let's line them all up: Communist, Socialist, Marxist, Liberal Fascist...Let's include any that I've missed from the Ocean-deep talent pool of Socio-Economic geniuses that write for TownHall...We can seed them like the NCAA Basketball Tournament...We can assign pictures of our favorite Liberals to each Team Title...Yes!..We can spice up the event by throwing in a few long shot "Cinderella" teams like "McCarthyism"...We'll go single elimination and we'll all vote on which Team advances in the Bracket...At the end, we'll come up with one, consistent label that we'll pin on Barack Obama....For those who REALLY want to see their Team win; we can suggest research and postings that make the case for their "ist"...At the end, the winner will be crowned and Obama will be stopped from winning the election, right?...Well, not quite...You see the Gov't GREW under the Bush administration to unprecedented heights...The economy, under Bush'(lack of) Watch has tanked...The Iraq war proved to be an expensive and misguided War against "weapons of mass distruction"....Katrina proved the utter incompetence of the Republican administration...Now will all of THAT cause the believers to pause and think?...Nah, of course not...See, the believers have buoyed our current President to his unprecendented 27% approval depth...Take away the kool-aid drinkers and labelists, our POTUS would be at a whopping 8% approval...What the "ist" accusers can't accept or won't accept, is that most of the nation is going against the "ideology is enough" measuring stick....But, hey, don't be discouraged. It's Jump Ball!

Ak
Yes it does. Don't care what you CALL it Ak.
You are taking AWAY something that BELONGS to someone ELSE. THAT is THEFT. You are buying the LIE that it is OK for SOMEBODY ELSE to STEAL and REDISTRIBUTE, don't matter if you are Mafia, a Mugger or the Fed Gov of US or SWeeden.

Stealing by means of the ballot box is still stealing. Redistributing is holding property "in common" BY THE POWER OF THE STATE.
Don't MATTER the Technique or the Labels the ACT, the EFFECT ,the PRINCIPLE, the AIM IS THE SAME! STELAING OTHER PEOPLE's MONEY.

Just cause Sweeden is better at it and their useful idiot cits are OK with it don't matter a DAMN to ME! It's still THEFT!

the big mick

Big Mick:

I agree. It also amazes me how many believe the big lies - and how many will continue to try to make them work or insist they aren't lies to keep from looking stupid when they realize they are lies.

Obama's request for a private army worries me. We don't need ANYONE OR ANYTHING with a private army in the U.S. But people don't seem to see that as a problem. I blame television. There ar too many books out there that people don't read that tell exactly what will happen.

Hitler's Youth Corps
Our only saving right now would be that the military we have now are not interested in enslaving the American people. Neither did the German army prior to Hitler.

But Hitler came up with the Youth Corps. It was supposed to teach the youth that Germany was a wonderful country and they were to make it great. When they graduated they became SS Troops. Ask any WWII vet who served in Europe about them. You will learn a lot. They believed that Hitler was little short of God and were ready and willing to arrest their parents if Hitler said they should.

Clinton came up with the Goals 2000 educational program. He stated himself that it was designed around the Youth Corps program. It wasn't offically put into use but was in some school districts on a volunteer basis.

Our existing army can be trusted to not attack us. Most of our police can be trusted to leave us alone too. But Clinton brought in thousands of foreign policemen to use about the country with the idea that if ordered they would shoot at civilians here. Now Obama wants to create a force similar to the Youth Corps.

Do you want such a man as President?

Sure he is and I am the Easter Bunny
"No question, bh0 is a communist!"

Yes if you redefine the term to mean nothing, yes he is a communist and using your terms, most of the world is as well including members of the EU and NATO.

For those of you buying the lie
and trying to make excuses for THEFT by making an artificial distinction between LABELS of THIEVES, go read the Libertarian Works of L.Neil Smith, particularly his North American Confederation Series.

You look real stupid regurgitatin old lies that you've never spent 5 seconds looking behind.

As First Officer Spock says: "A difference which MAKES no difference IS no difference."
Or, If it walks like a commie, quacks like a commie, and craps on your lawn like a commie, it's a commie, don't care if it's Painted Socialist Pink.

mick

Big Mick
The top rate in Sweden in 1976 was 89%, in the US it was 70%. Was Sweden and the US then communist. Redistribution of the wealth doesn't make you a communist.

Useful Idiots
I couldn't care less for all you ignorant, useful idiots.
We have sold our properties and all stock in America several years ago and moved our farming operations to Brazil.
In the not so distant future you will depend on countries like Brazil for most of your food, that is if the Dollar will still be accepted...
The South American economic union, Mercosul, has just decided to use their common currencies instead of the Dollar as a means for exchange.
The Dow Jones is crashing mostly because of a perception by investors that Obama might just get elected and they are anticipating this with advance sell-outs.
Shoul he really get elected, it will be the world's record in capital flight out of the USA, both foreign and domestic capital will be gone overnight.
Oblahma, Pelosi, Reid , Dodd, Dchummer & Co will only be ably to watch and wonder what happened...

Felicia B-sheite 1:30
I’d call ya full of Bullsheite, girl, but what you say ain’t got the balls to be bull, nor the substance to be sheite! UHF4-CH4.
When your fellow dumbolcrap/ commiqrs like the Rapist in Chief, and Todd and Phagnk, forced the Banks to make bad loans, and blocked all reform as Freddie and Fannie bought em up, your comiqr friends were putting Socialism to Work SCREWING ALL OF US, not just Whoopi’s Dear Little Friends the comiqr voters. It was the NOT SO innocent AMERICANS who took out loans they KNEW and the BANK knew the couldn’t PAY for just to make the loan sheet look “diverse”. It’s the NOT SO innocent redistributionists who are being bailed out HERE honey.
It’s your dumbolcrap/comiqr THIEF buddies who control congress on this one, sweetheart, who blocked all reform, who is spending, like a credit card THIEF, somebody else’s money like water.
You’re not only a bigot, you approve of Theft!

Mick

Have to keep pointing out...
... the obvious, it seems:

BARACK OBAMA - THE NEXT HUGO CHAVEZ

A commie by any other name....

Alinsky, Ayres, ACORN and Obama are Radical Socialists,
Marxists, and communists, and want to tear down America.

They are at the root of many of the problems we face today,
much more than most of us know.

These roots run deep into the past, and what they fear most is the
truth coming out in the short time before this crucial election.

They WANT people to discuss details of empty campaign promises,
taxes, etc, as a distraction to keep the focus away from what it
should be in the remaining days:

WHO IS OBAMA, REALLY?? WHAT IS THE TRUTH??

Here is a MUST READ article which brings it all together in a way
you have probably never seen before- Voter Fraud, Govt. Spending,
Education, Economic Housing Crisis, and more:

"Barack Obama and the Strategy of Manufactured Crisis."


http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/09/barack_obama_and_the _strategy.html

Pass it on !

Socialism/Fascism/communism differences
Socialism: government decides property is communal, and wastes both property and taxpayers' money for rotten ends

Fasicsm: socialism backed by threat of brute force

Communism: socialism with added factors of supranationalism (one-world state), hatred of all other belief-structures (those which do not deify system), wanton butchery and property destruction

Nazism: hard to distinguish from communism (which it professes to hate) other than the mandatory component of xenophobia/racism.

No question, bh0 is a communist!

Ak
There is none, both are statist, both are redistributionists. Buy into the lies your comiqr Freshman teachers fed you if you want, there AIN'T no diff.
Theft writ large, State Tyranny, that's all they both are at bottom.
Anybody who says different ain't paying a damn bit of attention or, if they ARE IS a comiqr.

No less a light then historian Tom Wolfe in the 2k issue of Time (maybe Newsweek) pointed out the classic polar opposite "lefty and righty"
on the outmoded and disingenuous Linear Political Spectrum Model--namely Hitler and Stalin, were FRATERNAL SOCIALIST TWINS!
Your paradigm is discredited and badly in need of an update, Ak.

Socialism, communism, redistributionism, don't care what the THIEVES call it, Carthego delinda est!

mick

Don Juany Whiney
Aren't you the same moron that tried posting that Sen McCain wasn't a U.S. citizen because he was born in the Panama Canal - btw on a military base while his father was active duty military?? Notice you've shut your mouth about that one since your Communist candidate STILL won't produce a valid birth certificate!

Oh well, that's what impeachments are for - if he does manage to get elected, the American people will kick him out on his rear once the truth finally starts coming out about all his lies and corrput connections.

EFI
Well as for dying for democracy it depends on what war doesn't it? I am no fan of Obama, and I hope he loses (but I doubt he will). But I do stress calling people what they are and not what you simply want to believe they are.

Hmmm
While this brings up some interesting points the information here http://dragcave.net/user/perloothebold
directly contradicts it.

100% Correct !
If you still have any doubts check this out :

http://noliberalspin.blogtownhall.com/2008/10/08/the_video_ liberals_dont_want_you_to_see!_the_useful_idiots!.thtml

I have, personally spent a lifetime dealing with communists in Eastern Europe, South America and Moscow. It's REAL!

Obahma is only the last straw being put into place.

Ironically, the first ones to be lined up against the wall are the media, academics or "intellectuals", homosexuals and feminists...

Mike -
Right on!!!

From the top
Be nice if you understood the difference between communism and socialism.

To Akaqi


Last time I checked, our soldiers have died throughout history to ensure Democracy throughout the worls, not Socialism!

Last time I checked, we were not Socialists - well, maybe you and your Messiah are. What lapdogs!

Lefty Loonies By Hook Or By Crook
The left in America will do anything to escape from the idea that thier parent ideology is "Communism". To be fair to them, the majority of them are ignorant to this because there are some unique circumstances that must come together for Communism to take root and they ignore these facts or simply can't understand them.

For starters, a large number of people must be disenchanted with the current system. This can happen because of normal cyclicle economic ups and downs, a longer than anticipated war, high inflation, increased global competition or some other combination of circumstances but regardless of the real cause peoples pains are blamed on a particular person or entity inorder for Communists to gather support, and they are.

Second, You must have an eloquent liar who can tell the people what they want to hear rather than the truth. Even in our American politics, politicians know that if they were to truly level with the American people they would only rally support from those who know they are telling the truth and this would not be enough to get them elected. So they all tell people to some extent what they want to hear. The problem with Communism is a paradox because all of the sweetners they use to get elected truly are a reflection of the dangerous direction that they advocate.

Redistribution of wealth is not, never was and never will be the answer for America. Conservative Americans will ultimately take arms!!

Thank you Ms. Hollis!
Your piece was wonderful. Scary, but wonderful. You have precisely put to words what most Americans are feeling anxious about. I pray that on November 5th, we can say "Whew, we are safe".

It is also very frightening to see the minions in lockstep with their Dear Leader. Bless them, they have no idea what's ahead.

Akagi
Says who?
Putin's aims are nothing less then its rebirth.
Why do you think that because names are different, AIMS change, Ak? You are smart enough to know better. The "Soviet" "Union" was always a brand of Russian Imperialism, don't matter what they called it. Moscow was always in Charge and One man IN Moscow. Commie is as Commie DOES and Ayers, and Alinski and Bami are COMMIES.
The SECOND "it's better for everyone if we spread the wealth around" comes out of his pie-hole he is a COMMIE, it is redistributionism and the fundamental Marxist/Commie/Maoist Principle, call it Socialist Anarchy like Noam Chomsky if you want it is STILL commie and STILL Theft and ANYBODY who advocates it needs to be burned alive because they value YOUR SACRED LIBERTIES not at all.

the big mick

Just Keep Doing This Crap.....
Ms. Hollis:
"...His policies are communist, pure and simple."

This is just the kind of name-calling and character assassination that has cost the Republican party the respect of the American People. Come 11/4 it's going to lose you elections, big time....

By all means , KEEP IT UP!!!!


Obammie the Commie

Has a certain ring to it, don't it?

....you just might be a commie
Being a Communist is not about what you call yourself, its about your belief system.

- If you believe the benefit of production and labor is rightly the property of the people as a whole rather than the people who financed and created it, you just might be a commie.

- If you believe the only difference between those who succeed and those who fail is luck or corruption, you just might be a commie.

- If you believe taxation should be used to create a 'fairer' society, you just might be a commie.

- If seeing people who have made a lot more money than you makes you feel poorer, you just might be a commie.

- If you think government sometimes needs to override the will of the people, 'for their own good', you just might be a commie.

- If you believe the 'best and brightest' people in America are better at deciding what is good for average Americans than those Americans are themselves, you just might be a commie.

- If you believe inciting class envy as a means to political ends is reasonable, you just might be a commie.

After seeing voter reaction to the debate last night, it seems a lot of American are unfortunately becoming more and more accepting of Communist principles.

BTW

Did anyone notice that OBlahBlah calls Senator McCain "John," but pointedly referred to Bill Ayers as "Mr. Ayers."

Shows who he respects the most, doesn't it?

By your standards, McCain's a fascist
So which is worse at this time in our GOP/Bush/McCain economic disaster? Frankly, it's the Bush administration, aided by McCain, who have used socialism to bail out their wealthiest cronies. Socialist, communist practices for the greediest in American, Capitalism for the innocent, suffering American people - a TOTAL Gooper, total McCain idea of how to deal with the economic crisis (and how it came about)

AMEN!

These people are commie sympathizers, from way back in the '60s. OBlahBlah may not call himself that, but it is what he and his radical pals want for our country.

Silver Lion
Are you aware that the Soviet Union no longer exists? Correct?

China
It is not 1963 and while it was the goal for the communists to admit China to the UN, it was a communist state that sponsored resolution 2758, it was inevitable, by October 25, 1971 China had had nuclear weapons for 9 years, had a population of 852 million while the ROC had 15 million. Any idea that the ROC was going to regain the mainland was pure fantasy just as the idea that Taiwan was the Republic of China which represented all of China and Mongolia was a fantasy. The UN in 1971 and the US in 1979 simply were bowing to reality.

Taiwan's big mistake was walking out of the UN in 1971 when the US was working to Keep Taiwan in the UNGA, now since the early 90s it has tried to get back in and now the US and China and most other countries vote to keep it out.


O M G
The moveon.org crazies are out in force today aren't they?

About time!
It's about time someone said it and it's about time McCain got tough. Obama is not a patriot in the Democratic sense. A great article, just maybe a little too late. Our next President, as other before, will be known by the company he keeps. I trust McCain to choose the right people. Obama will only choose "his" people.
Thanks Laura and Go Illini.

Communist??
What a crock, Obama is the only hope for an America turned into a third world country by

republiCON FASCISM,

Get a life , learn to read,