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Sunday, October 12, 2008
Salena Zito :: Townhall.com Columnist
A President Barack Obama
by Salena Zito
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Most Americans wake every morning to news that Barack Obama will win next month’s presidential election. Strategists even say the word “landslide” aloud.

Every poll shows it, every pundit echoes it, and every analyst predicts it – therefore it must be true, right?

Let’s take this political axiom to some of those who do the predicting, to project what America will look like under an Obama administration, governing with a Democratic congressional majority led by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid.

“First of all, let’s dismiss any talk of socialism,” says Democrat strategist Bob Beckel, who worked in Jimmy Carter’s White House with a Democrat-controlled Congress. “The idea that Barack Obama is going to bring socialism to this country is just crazy.”

Beckel says that, in government and politics, the policy pendulum always swings back and forth and, particularly in this economic crisis, “people will want – and Obama will deliver – more government involvement.”

“They feel more comfortable with that than they do with a bunch of people on Wall Street,” he says.

Beckel sees an Obama appointment of Hillary Clinton to the Supreme Court bench as soon as an opening occurs, and he dismisses the massive move towards industry regulations that some people predict.

One insider, who refuses to predict on the record, says privately that Obama will quickly announce his appointments to the cabinet positions of state, defense, treasury and attorney general. He believes Obama’s cabinet is shaping up to look like this: retiring U.S. Sen. Chuck Hagel, R-Neb., as defense secretary; Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick as attorney general; New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg, a political independent, at treasury; Susan Rice as national security advisor; Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., as secretary of state.

Mark Siegel, a former Democratic National Committee executive director, says Obama will want to make it immediately clear to America and to the world that “there's a new sheriff in town." He expects Obama to make that point dramatically by issuing several executive orders.

Siegel says you will see Obama immediately suspend all pending judicial nominations, close Guantanamo, then reassure the world that he will never permit torture.

Also look for a doubling of the Peace Corps, a brand-new Volunteer Youth Network, an expansion of U.S. assistance for “Teach for America," and a reduction of interest rates on student loans, Siegel predicts.

What a difference four short years makes says Brian Darling, a congressional analyst for the Heritage Foundation.

Darling predicts Obama’s tax policy will have an immediate effect on small businesses and result in many individuals seeing their marginal tax rate double. Any Supreme Court retirements would dramatically change the direction of American jurisprudence. And he warns that the push for new regulations is the wrong reaction to problems on Wall Street.

“We need more capitalism, not less. Telecommunications has thrived without regulations, and our economy should make sure that politicians in Washington do not try to regulate and tax our way out of the current economic downturn.”

University of Arkansas political scientist Bob Maranto says the Illinois senator is a pragmatist tactically: “Obama knows that if you try to impose things like racial quotas and gay marriage, that would not be a vote-winner. But if you appoint federal judges who impose those policies, you can evade responsibility.”

Maranto suspects those are the judges Obama would appoint.

He warns that Obama is no fool. “Socialism is dead, and Barack Obama knows it,” he explains. “He would, however, favor a very strong government hand in regulating the economy, both because he believes that government knows best and because that means more subsidies and jobs to hand out to supporters, and more votes and PAC contributions to get in return.”

All four men agree that if Obama becomes president with Congress sharing his beliefs, then “change” is definite – but not infinite.

The degree of success or enforcement, they say, depends on how far the press and the next mid-term election will allow the new president and Congress to go.

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Obama
You say that Socialism is dead with Obama but then point out that Obama would raises taxes on the vast majority of the people and pass that money onto the poor. Is that not the beginnings of Socialism? Obama believes that government knows better than the free market what works and what doesn't but he think Socialism is dead? He will appoint judges that takes our rights away but believes Socialism is dead? The Democrats have talked about the nationalization of oil companies and financial companies but Obama thinks Socialism is dead? If all of that comes to pass we will be Socialist but the news media will not call it that. They will come up with a new term that sounds good but has no meaning except Socialism.

I forgot one
and probably a lot more examples. Obama wants to nationalize health care but he thinks Socialism is dead? With all of his Socialist programs I would hate to see if he thought Socialism worked.

wake up
This con man obama do we really know what he is up to? He talks out of both sides of his mouth. Look at his history, his agenda. I want to believe this will all come to pass and in 4 years we will dump him. I see though a couple of 9/11s and suddenly marshall law. Nancy and Harry will drool over any agenda.
He sees himself as the savior. I see him as our hugo chavez. I hope I am wrong.

Socialism is dead?
Excuse me, but Bob Maranto (U. of Ark. Pol. Sci.) needs to go back to Pol. Sci. 101.

21st century socialism is EXACTLY what Obama is preaching. Regulations and judicial social engineering is the way to create socialism in this era.

Obama will still redistribute wealth (to buy votes), nationalize various industries (health & energy) and will eventually confiscate privately own firearms (through judicial fiat).

Obama is going to turn America into Zimbabwe.


Obama is right for the times.
Now that we have a socialist economy with the bailout and the impending nationization of the financial industry, we need a leader like Obama who understands the Marxist/Socialist system.

I see Bill Ayers at Health and Human Services, Jeramiah Wright as National Security advisor, Ralph Nader as Secty of State. But the big surprise will be Dick Cheney as Secty of Defense. Why? So he can continue to take the blame for whatever happens in Iraq, Iran and Afganistan since he's the one that got us into this mess.

Obama= Socialism
As do all the dingbat Liberals posting on TH. Ovomit may have said Socialism is dead. Like all with all things, he lie's through his teeth! He is the very essence Socialism/Communism!

Does anyone out there (besides Liberals) think this extreme Far-Left monster is good for our country!

He shouldn't even be in our government!

socialism...dead??
Bob Beckel must be smoking some baaad stuff!!! I wish it was dead!! But with an Nobama administration, it will be alive and well in this country!!

John Kerry, the Sect'y of State?? Oh God. Wake me when this nightmare is over!!

Obama Cabinet
If that is what an Obama cabinet would look like, he needs to go back to the drawing board.
First of all, Hillary Clinton for supreme Court? No. Hillary Clinton for Secretary of State; look to Harvard Law School & Yale Law School for the deans who will more than likely get the first openings in the supreme court. He needs to keep the current Sec of Defense Gates in place. We have already had an attorney general who wasn't too smart or ethical; we need some one who people in the rest of the country can count on - not Gov Deval Patrick. I'm sure he is a nice guy, but I haven't ever heard anything positive about him. I don't know who Susan Rice is - hopefully this isn't someone he owes a campaigning debt to. If he wants a good National Security Advisor I would suggest Retired General Wesley Clark.

Look into the mirror

The extremist and pseudo moderate chattering class keep saying that there will be big trouble if Obama isn't elected. Oooooh....it will be racism. I've even heard liberals threaten, er prdict, violence.

Look at the other side. What happens when Obama pits the tax eaters against the taxpayers. The productive against the drones. Supporters of Freedom against the statist slaves of the left.

When the productive discover that the press are trying to create a forever administration. When we see the media subsidized by the government (and who will the MSM support but their masters (er owners).

And before you cutie statists dream of your army which will "keep order"; allow me to take a teaching opportunity. How many of you half educated twits know where the French Army was when Louis and Marie were relocated to Paris?

Enjoy your administration.


barack hussein obama
Your tax money will go to Odinga in Kenya.
If bho is elected may God have mercy on the United States of America

Bob Beckel
Bob Beckel couldn't tell the truth if it was to his own benefit.

Look at the man...he has "thug" written all over him. If he said the house was on fire I wouldn't believe him unless I saw the flames myself.

If Beckel is saying it, you can be sure the opposite is true.

baggage
Obama is carrying to much baggage to govern. The county will be screaming back and forth about Ayers, ayers wife, wright and that crazy chicago priest, lesko, acorn, and who knows how many more will come out of the woodwork. It'll be utter chaos for his entire term. Plus he will cut defense spending drastically. How else can he get the money for his socialistic plans.

If Obama is elected
You will see a major shift in the judicial system of this country. The Democrats in Congress have been sand-bagging Bush's appointments because they know they just have to wait him out. The Constitution will be effectively dead. Anything on their socialist (yes, SOCIALIST, Bob) agenda they can't get through Congress, they'll just legislate from the bench.

McCain says we have nothing to fear from an Obama presidency. If he truely believes that, then we nominated the wrong guy.

Cabinet
No wonder Hagel is retiring from the Senate!

And Kerry could go windsurfing and hunting with other prime ministers! And with all his Vietnam medals, he will be highly respected, I'm sure!

Michael Bloomberg is the former Democrat, eight-year Republican, and now going Independent......?

Don't know about you, but if the Democrats caused the economic distress with the Fannie and Freddie debacle, why are Americans willing to "hire" them to solve the problem?

I've read that Barack Hussein Obama has already told Hillary that she will not get a judgeship.

McCain and Palin in 2008!

h20 skier is right on the money.
Today's American socialists, see also Democrats, simply rename words, systems or procedures that have rightfully earned scorn from people who have enduring values, who love personal freedom, and who think above the waist.

In Democrat speak:

Taxes = "investments"

Killing the unborn = "free choice"

Government handouts = "entitlements"

Redistributing income = "caring"

Gee, doesn't that make for a nice way of wording corrupt and historically failed ideas that perpetuate misery?

btw: Quoting a professor from a public university (taxpayer financed Orwellian fan clubs) on just about anything is like asking Castro his opinion on freedom, or Bill Clinton's on fidelity.

IF OBAMA IS ELECTED BEWARE!!!
I saw this ad and thought what a nieve person who has no clue to life and what the USA faces. I am a newly retired US Army MSG who served 30 years and covered many presidents and wars.
I am blessed to be alive and healthy with a family. This Obama is either the anti christ who will start Armegedon or he will socialize the USA like a Stalin. The problems with oil stem from a democratic congress that has blocked our economy from self containment. The latest round of financial falls all stem from a democrat congress of greed and corruption. Obama is like Al Capone reincarnated or is truly the anti christ...voting fraud is nationwide and my son and family have had serious talks about leaving the USA and my country and flag as I knew it will no longer exist...your pay will taxed over 50% and the Russians are coming w serious nuclear threats
Obama is not a warrior or a leader and does not have a clue like the publisher of this article...If your christian and love life pray for a Mccain victory if Obama gets in ....life as you knew it will never be the same socialism is neck and neck with communism and the enemies of the USA want OBAMA....god bless you all
JOHN MCCAIN IN 08
US Army retired hard

Obama Presidency???
OMG are we as Americans really this stupid to elect this leftist, socialist Senator from Chicago??
Heaven help us if that happens. It will be the beginning of the end of the USA as we now know it. Our freedoms will be gone.
Worse yet the balance of govt will be broken by the tax & spend Dems running AND controlling everything.
PLEASE vote for freedom McCain/Palin08
Thanks

Hillary Clinton, Supreme
The woman who couldn't even pass the bar exam, a Supreme Court Justice. Right. Just what we need, another know-nothing social engineer. God help us. Goodbye to our Constitution and Republic.

Fear itself
"McCain says we have nothing to fear from an Obama presidency." kbTexan

Our election process is under threat from ACORN, the people are called racist if they question the candidates affiliations with America hating terrorists, the Dems want to nationalize everything they can find to grow government and tax the citizens and there's more. The only possible reason for McCain to make this statement is that his family has been threatened.

Here are the real threats
Mid level appointees will entrench racial quotas, require that racial sensitivity training be taught (their version with historical revisionism), and refuse to enforce immigration laws.

Our day to day government is run by these appoinntees, Obama will fill them with people like Jeremiah Wright and Bill Ayers -- his idealogical soulmates.

Republicans historically do not do a good job of reversing bad liberal policy -- so expect racial quotas, historical revisionism and the like to be taught for the next 50 years (it is not like this was stopped under either Bush or Reagan).

Health Care
Let's not overlook Nationalizing Health care. However Barack wants to say it it is now a "right".

Trying to reverse thsi "right" will be impossible once the population gets it. The majority will get addicted like every entitlement. They will never look back to see if it improved things.

That is just one permanant change that we can't get back.

Say it ain't so!
After reading that....I think I threw up into my mouth a little.

prediction- A year into the reign of Leader Obama, this web site will be purged, the year after that the writers for this website will be purged, the year after that all of this website’s comment makers will be purged. As Ben said, "We must all hang together, or most assuredly we shall all hang separately." Vote McCain, vote early and vote often… ACORN says the last part is OK.

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Worry not
The lazy Lib's will think that the lead is so big that they won't even show up!
They always want someone else to the work for them.LOL this time it is going to bite them.
We have to make sure we get the vote out no time to sit around and wait. ACTION needs to be taken.

take my chances with smart Obama
Bush was a mental midget and we do not need a repeat performance from McCain and Palin.

Republicans, sit down and take a deep breath. You got clowned by Bush and his cronies. His buddies got very rich while your party was thrown under the train. History lesson: Bush was in charge the last 8 years. I know... it seems hard to believe, but he was. Evangelicals voted for Bush and then got kicked to the curb. He ran up a trillion dollar debt, shut down research on alternative energy and research into getting better car mileage. He spied on his own citizens. Bush went against about every classic conservative principle of the GOP. Bush hated responsible oversight. He tried to keep government investigators from investigating the billion corruption in the War in Iraq. Katrina was a debacle. You enabled Bush to get where we are today. You were not mavericks and stood up to Bush and his cronies. McCain sold his soul to get the nomination. Then McCain selects Palin, who abused power in her state and who is supportive of a Anti-American Secessionist group, oh, her husband Mr. First Dude was a member. Look in the mirror. Now look where you are. The Fat Lady is ready to sing.


jay it will be worse
they will close the internet under the guise of terrorism. they we create a massive blackout atribute it to lack of security on the web and we will just sit back and take it why not we have not stopped them yet

CIVILIAN NATIONAL SECURITY FORCE
obama told us in a speach on July 2 2008 that he will create this force that will be as strong and well funded as the US Military. Can anyone say SS or KGB this is bad JUJU. he is a proven liar doesn't that make a difference to you!!

one thing for sure
of course obama is a socialist that disagrees with almost everything the founders and authors of the Constitution stood for....however, McCain falls into the same fold, "socialist-lite" less filling.

Clearly the answer to fighting Obama's plans and ideas isn't to vote for another guy that is a socialist too!!!

It's time that the people took matters into their own hands as almost all of our revolutionary forefathers did and admonished was our "duty" to secure and maintain LIBERTY over SLAVERY.

Let's get on with the fight instead of being lulled into false belief that voting for "socialist lite" is any kind of solution at all.

Pat Buchanan stated it best: "If Obama wins, the country could be in real trouble. And if he loses, the country could be in real trouble."

Gee, time to sacrafice life, fortune, and sacred honor than merely casting votes for other "troublemaker" socialists taking the Republic down.



Scared
I am fearful for my nation that I have loved all of my life. We have too rotten apples running, one is just more rotten. I am going to vote for the less rotten one, McCain. Hopefully he will not do too much more damage before the 2012 election. After that I'll probably be dead anyway. Good Luck America!

LAURA BUSH:LADY LUCK OF REPUB. POLITICS
"Laura Welch Bush, First Lady and wife of the 43rd President, a women who gave birth to twins in 1981 (when John McCain quit the Navy to prepare for his career in politics), spoke in the Twin Cities on day two of the Republican Convention which fell on the first Tuesday of the month. What most Americans don’t know about Laura is that she’s the 44th First Lady in U.S. history; and that 63 days from her convention speech, on the first Tuesday of November, when the nation picks the 44th President, she will be celebrating her 62nd birthday. Indeed, just as that day of decision and destiny falls on the First Lady’s birthday so did this occur twice before in her life. For whenever Laura’s birthday converged with a presidential election the nation went Republican putting Ike in the White House in 1952 and the Gipper in 1980..."

To read more about the First Lady's remarkable "luck" for Republican presidential candidates click ApolloSpeaks and read my piece John McCain, Hero of Destiny: Signs of Republican Victory

Obama is simply
fulfilling the edicts of Saul Alinsky and the leaders of the New Party. Google "www.google.com/archive/2001" then call up "New Party" or "Barak Obama" (hope ive got this right). Their 'charter' was 'to change Aamerica from within....etc' and indeed that is what this election will do. No longer will we be the United Statea but the Socialist State of Amerika, goverened by thugs, liars and thiefs.

Seriously ?
Are Americans really poised to elect a man who is so radical he has to distance himself from his past associations & words he has spoken in his past on a daily basis?

Are we so gullible as to believe every snake oil salesman that promises a cure?

I believe Obama is just another propped up candidate that will be beholden to all the radicals & money lenders like George Soros.

Beware of any person that comes out of nowhere to proclaim himself a leader without works to prove it.






The President's Cabinet
I have long felt that the public should be told by each candidate who they will pick as their cabinet members. Cabinet members have so much influence on the decisions the president makes, why should the names be kept secret from us until after they are elected. Brokaw's question should have been--name your cabinet.

John Kerry
My god, didn't we make ourselves clear enough on this fraud of a man. If I wasn't as against Obama as I already am, I would be more so after hearing this name bandied about. The man is a lying, scheming, traitor. As a Marine Vietnam veteran, I saw officers like him--in country just to get their medals and their promotions. And then to come back and malign our troops in public. Slimeball.

Jane Fonda
And speaking of John Kerry (sorry for multiple posts folks, but I keep thinking about this article), I suppose Kerry would then make sure Jane is picked as Ambassador to---Vietnam! gag, gag, gag...

Straight Shooters
Al from Illinois obviously is very comfortable in one of the most corrupt states in the Union--and its latest graduate, Barack Obama. George Bush may not be the smartest man in the U.S. but at least he is honest, which we can't say about the Messiah Obama who has lied so many times that it's hard to keep count. Gov. Palin and Sen. McCain are straight shooters but if you cross them expect to get fired.

What a NIGHTMARE scenario!
Ditto.

fj45lvr
We pledge our loives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor. Many of those visionaries lost their lives and fortunes, but none lost their honor. Like many old timers here, it looks to me like the tree of liberty must be nourished by sacrifice. Affluence has made lotus eaters out of about 50 per cent of our population. Little by little, each generation doesn't realize that the accumulating "little bit" of freedom lost is eating away at the very premise of govt of, by and for the people. So i want Obama in there, while there are still a few of us around who remember the difference between free speech and PC speech. Between the strength of unity in the American dream, not unity in diversity. Between equality of opportunity, not equality of outcome. Between striving imperfectly to immplement an idealistic constitution, and altering the constitution to match imperfection in the body politic. People can vote themselves into irrelevance, misery, and even extinction. Churchill remarked that the threat of imminent extinction is a powerful stimulus to thought (paraphrased). I want the voters to give up feeling, reacting, ignoring sober harsh reality, and THINK.

Taxeaters
The longest, most expensive war in the history of this Country was started by a Democrat. The war on poverty has created a voting block of taxeaters that will soon be in total control.
This election is our last chance to put a stop to the insane idea that big government is the best solution.
Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.
Term limits anyone?

Taxeaters
The longest, most expensive war in the history of this Country was started by a Democrat. The war on poverty has created a voting block of taxeaters that will soon be in total control.
This election is our last chance to put a stop to the insane idea that big government is the best solution.
Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.
Term limits anyone?

mojobebop ?
Please explain why you think white people are stupid?

Obama Cabinet - You got it Wrong
Attorney General - Al Sharpton
Secretary of State - Jesse Jackson
Secretary of Redistribution - Robert Mugabe
Secretary of Defense - John Kerry
Supreme Court Appointee - Cynthia McKinney
Secretary of Housing and Urban Develop - Barney Baby

swede
You state the problem. Your proposal for a solution is unclear. Forget term limits. The hogs will never vote to restrict their access to the trough. I believe that voting in McCain is a dead certain way to continue what has been happening. Namely lose/lose. Conservative principles are ignored, but get the blame. Grim times are inevitable, neither McCain nor Obama can handle the problems thathave been kicked down the road for 60 years. The mortgage mess is trivial compared to social security/medicare entitlements. Best Obama is in there so his socialist policies can possibly be blamed.
Granted its no sure thing, but if the voters are so out of it they once again believe people like Barney (its the republican's fault) Frank, and Maxine (Raines is a genius and the object of a racist witch hunt) Waters, its good bye Charlie anyway.

Obama Blames Capitalism
I don't understand how some Americans refuse to comprehend Obama's statement of" The reason for the economic downturn is the failed economic philosphy of George Bush".

Oh, how I wish someone would ask him what his economic philosphy is.If they did? Would he be truthful?

The reason Wall Street & Banks fell is because the Clinton Administration inserted Socialistic ideas into a Capitalist economic system.

Why the heck doesn't someone ask real questions to get to the truth instead of tiptoeing through the tulips?

Looks like socialism
to me! Beckel, who used to frequent call girls until one tried to blackmail him, can call it whatever he wants: Obama is a radical and he will appoint radical judges. The public cannot permit Obama to win or for the Democrats to put more crazies into the government. On the bright side, after two years of President Obama, the public will be so downtrodden that it will vote for more conservative Republicans. Hillary on the Supreme Court? Give me a break! Maybe then she can find the missing Rose law firm billing records.

Globug
Because they are White.

Doubling the size of the Peace Corps?
Presidents Bush, Clinton & Bush all promised to greatly expand the size of the Peace Corps, but none did so.

For one thing, Peace Corps Voluinteers are volunteers, not draftees. And to lower the quality of Volunteers to simply increase numbers is self-defeating.

In its earliest days the Peace corps was full of idealistic & enthused Volunteers, but in recent decades that hasn't been so. These days fully half of the Volunteers sent abroad fail to serve a complete two year commitment.

It'll be interesting to see if Obama can motivate individuals who want to quit to remain on the job. Or if he will be able to find people to serve who won't want to quit.

mojobebop
This white boy agrees. Most white people ARE stupid, as least a lot of us vote stupidly. On the other hand, compared to what? Black genius?????

Obama - Harvard educated?
Liberals love the Utopian Fantasy of a Socialist world. Wait till their way of life changes and they are standing in line for assistance to just get by day to day. When you Tax Big Business, the first thing they do is raise Prices of their goods and Services (Inflation), then come the Lay-offs (Union Members), then the door shuts, the Lights go out and the OUT of BUSINESS sign goes up in the Window. This wont effect George Clooney and Hollywood, no they will all be parting in Europe, but what about the rest of the ordinary Liberals left in what was the Greatest Country on Earth? Kumbayah everybody

McCain is a lousy candidate
John McCain is a lousy presidential candidate. Obama is a sitting duck because of his leftist views and associations, but the good senator from Arizona is telling his supporters that his opponent is a good man. Please!!! Obama is a thug politician from the Chicago machine, and has deep ties with extreme leftists who hate this country. McCain should have been hammering this guy from the very beginning, but he doesn't want to upset his "independent" base of voters. Wake up John. You're losing that vote too. I hate to say it, but I'm already looking forward to the 2012 election. Four years of Obama socialism will hopefully wake this country up to the reality that leftists are ruining us.

Does it matter
who is elected? The America of my lifetime is gone forever. RIP. The country, which was bankrupt to begin with, throws non-existant billions around and the candidates support more future billions to be wasted. It's a miracle anyone will accept a dollar for payment and it can't last much longer.

Be that as it may, I am voting for McCain/Palin for two reasons: 1. I would never vote for a democrat again (after Adlai'56) and 2. I am a newly created racial bigot. In this case #2 doesn't need to kick in.

Their are no stupid people
Stupid white people? Remember that when the next time you use your cell phone, drive your car, fly, watch tv, switch on a light, use your computer, etc,etc, etc,

Chris
There may be nothing recognisable to awaken in 2012.

I shed a tear for our country
...one of the most powerful commercials in the 70's showed a Native American with a single tear in his eye at the end of the commercial on garbage and trash that was covering pristine and not so pristine parts of our country. I think we should bring this commercial back but have him shed a tear for the death of capitalism and democracy in the light of a Obama presidency with the rise of the central government and socialism. Socialism and socialists policies got us into this current mess, so it is mind blowing that the reaction is to go more towards policies which failed to begin with. Maybe the tear should be for our way of life which forever will be changed (for the worse).

Obama's qualification
Mr. Berg has finally produced a movie on some of my research in why Obama is not qualified to be president at the following youtube at:

http://mx.youtube.com/watch?v=gA6_k3NtXZs

Don't be lulled into complacency...
Obama is "pragmatic." He is also a communist ideologue, as are all of those who have supported him through the years (which is why he does not want us to know about any of them).

Being a "pragmatist" and a communist means that you will use any means necessary to get what you need done, done. And as Hitler did in Germany in the 1930s (he was elected, too), Obama will use every event, "crisis," "bubble" and problem to justify further encroachments on our liberties. Tt won't just be our money he takes. Our right of free speech will go, too, just as it has in Missouri, when anyone who said anything "false" about Obama was threatened with prosecution. You can kiss talk radio goodbye, with the reenactment of the so-called "Fairness Doctrine." Your right to religious belief will be gone - at least if you believe that abortion and homosexuality are wrong. But be assured - our freedoms will be taken from us "reluctantly," as President Obama uses whatever "crisis" is at hand to justify it.

And crises there will be. Because we are reaping the consequences of failed social policies that have created generations of people who act like pigs waiting for slop at a public trough. We have created it, and called it "compassion." It is immoral. You need only look at New Orleans after Katrina if you want to know what this country will be like just a few years from now: filled with helpless people who have lived on the dole so long that they don't know how to take care of themselves, work, raise children, make anything productive. They eat, they breed, they take checks from the government, and when the government isn't there to "take care" of them, they riot, they steal, and they die in miserable conditions.

Oh, yeah - sounds compassionate to me.

To All Those Who Question How
Anyone can be for Obama...they hate George Bush so much they will pick the most extreme version of the opposit of Bush. They couldn't abide Hilary because she had an ounce of George Bush in her (hard to believe I am saying that since at one time I had a bumper sticker that said "anyone but Hilary). The left is so awash in hatred and anger that they have lost all rational thought.

Laura--Outstanding
Great post. I am copying it and pasting it on my blog. thanks

Ron
Good point. We just have to hope that in 2012 there are far more Americans who believe in helping themselves than those who have their hands out looking for government assistance.

A once proud Republican
I was all set to vote for John McCain, then he picked Sarah Palin. Once again the idealouges have taken over the party. No longer can you be fiscally conservative, small government and debt free because we have been overtaken by religious nuts who rule like a theocracy (see George Bush's horrendous presidency). John McCain would have been a great pragmatic president but he too caved. Now we are starting to see the vitriol and hate that consumes these religious nuts and how Palin stokes the fire of hatred and intolerance. A truly sad day for America when someone like her is second in line for the Presidency. Wake up and take our party back before it turns into a thoecracy.

Obama Landslide
When there is talk about a landslide from the media, there was another time in the race between Dewey and Truman they were so sure Dewey would win they printed the headlines before the election results were in. They were wrong!!

Hillary was right.
It takes a Village, a Village (Nation) full of Idiots to vote in a Parasite like obama.

Obama's National Security Force

"We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we've set," he said. "We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded."
Barack Obama Speech July 2, 2008 Colorado Springs CO
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If I could get each of you to think just 30 seconds about this.

Barack Obama said: 'civilian national security force'.

Civilian - Would MOT include military or other Law Enforcement agencies.
National - Would NOT recognize State Boundaries.
Security - Security for what?
Force - This word usually denotes power and authority.

Why does Barack Obama want a Civilian Security Force?
1) Just as powerful as the Military.
2) Just as strong as the Military.
3) Just as well funded as the Military.

What will Barack Obama have this 'Civilian National Security Force' do?

Help in hurricanes or other disasters? - we already have the state National guard.

Some have said 'The National Guard is in Iraq and Afghanistan' but Barack Obama plans to have them home less than halfway through the Obama administration.

If America ignores this threat of an Obama personal 'Security Force' - I believe America is doomed.

Communists want Democrats + Obama

"This fight is winnable, and there is an actual strategy to win, a strategy that consists of more than playing at revolution and calling for chaos in the streets.

Right now the elections are the most critical form of struggle; this is where we have the best shot of finally breaking the back of the ultra right.

Afterwards, we will continue to build a united movement that can work to establish a real electoral alternative, and eventually to challenge the system overall.

Of course, a Democratic victory in 2008 will not solve all the problems caused by so many years of ultra-right domination, or by capitalism in general.

Swells of young people agree and have already stepped up to the challenge in the Democratic primaries, voting in record numbers and refusing to accept the idea that these elections don’t matter.

In Iowa alone, the youth turnout rate more than tripled from under 21,000 in 2004 to over 65,000 in 2008, and it quadrupled in Tennessee despite the devastating storms that ripped through on Super Tuesday. Similar situations have occurred in all Democratic primaries to date.

And there is something to be said for the movement of young people that surrounds Barack Obama.

This kind of victory, which would include a total Democratic sweep in November, could set the stage for higher forms of struggle for generations to come."

Revolt with a Vote
Author: Erica Smiley and Dan Margolis Communist Party USA
First published 04/29/2008 16:21

Retired Geek
This National Security force was displayed in the recent video of the young inner city youth, pledging their Allegiance to obama. Welcome to the Brave new world - Big Brother has arrived.

Candidates
The Democrats crossed over and picked John McCain as the Republican nominee then picked Obama over Hillary. Acorn will register and transport non voters such as the homeless and vagrants to the polls along with registering non existant humans. This may be the year of the Democrats.

"Politicians are the only people in the world who create problems and then campaign against them." Charlie Reese

AI @ 3:25 AM
Your comment consisted entirely of ad hominem attacks against Bush & McCain.

You make absolutely NO case for your messiah, B. Hussein Obama.

The irony is that your diatribe is typical of the left. There's NO support for Obama, merely fomentation of hatred for Bush and the right.

Zito's article was in regard to an Obama administration, yet you fail to address that subject.

Pathetic lib, we understand that your propaganda isn't designed to praise Obama (a charlatan who deserves no praise at all) but merely sound and fury at the "enemy", signifying nothing.

Al
seems to be at it again. *Yawn* Little children can be so irritating.

John.. Reply # 16
Great post sarge! With your permission I will post you're comment in it's entirety on the "Pepperhawk's Farm Journal" Where several of us vets have gathered.

http://pepperhawkfarm.blogtownhall.com/default.aspx

Retired Geek
Re: National Security force.

Obvomit version of the Nazi SS or Brown Shirts. The re-education of our youth to become like the German Youth corp. Where they will be dedicated to Ovomit. Even turning in their own parents as they did for Hitler.

The Press??
Is this a joke? So far they have allowed him and his "people" to lie about everything he has ever done.
ACORN,Ayers,Wright,Farahkan,Rezko,How Michelle got her huge raise and what she thinks of "her" country.How he paid for Harvard and the list goes on. The press should be tried for treason.

Stop buying their papers,don't watch their shows(who needs Hardball or msnbc?)Don't go to anything that supports Hollywood and turn that tramp madonna off!

May God Have Mercy On Us!
Father, we are headed down a path that will forever change this great country you gave us! While men slept, the enemy crept in and mixed among the republicans and democrats, conservatives and liberals, the media, the education system, the religous system and the economic system. They began with great deception. Forgive those who vote without knowing or understanding what is at stake.

"We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we've set," he said. "We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded."
Barack Obama Speech July 2, 2008 Colorado Springs CO

How could this statement go unheeded!

Remember Fear is the absence of Faith!

God bless whatever true goodness is left in this world. God bless those who continue to bring forth the truth!

Americans overall are strong people and come together when they need too! God Be With Us!

Death of a Free Nation
If Obama is elected you can say goodby to Americia. I would rather see the Military take over the Goverment than see The Muslim be elected as Fureur.

Oh, and by the way
...once the handlers start disseminating the, "See? He's not so extreme. He's pragmatic" schtick, you can bet your last dollar (which you'll be holding sooner than you think) that this is disinformation intended precisely to lull you into a false sense of security.

Ahmedinejad was "just a professor," Adolf Hitler was just a frustrated former art student; Lenin was a just a lawyer who wanted to bring electricity and universal health care to the peasants; Stalin was just a cobbler's son, and Pol Pot was just an unsuccessful lycee student.

How many millions of people suffered, starved, and died under these butchers' distorted ideas that it was possible to create utopia on earth? 50 million? 100 million? As Stalin himself said, "One death is a tragedy; a million deaths is a statistic."

The point is NOT that Obama is inclined this way. It is that most of these tyrants were handed power by the very people they persecuted and slaughtered later. Our government was set up - sensibly - by those who knew that handing any government - or person - too much power was a recipe for oppression. And yet despite this, we continue to believe that WE Americans as human beings are exceptional; that what happened elsewhere cannot happen here.

This is a dangerous fallacy. It is our system of government that is exceptional. We are not. We - and the leaders we elect - are subject to the same whims, caprices, passions, and certainty about how right we are. We cannot hand over, one by one, our rights and liberties, in the name of some "higher goal." There IS no higher goal.

If we systematically dismantle the very procedural protections intended to act as a buffer between us and tyranny, then tyranny is what we will get. If not with Obama, then with the next one. Or the one after that. Because once our rights are gone, we will not get them back.

Retired Geek
He needs civilians to rat out the civilians like us who dare talk against scum obama.Laura is right. Their goal is to silence us "By any means necessary".

Our freedoms will disappear.Look at the nutjob Carter. He is in bed with every regime that wants to wipe us off the face of the earth.obama will hand us over.

A vote for obama is a vote for castro(remember what this lawyer said he was going to do for the people of Cuba?)chavez and bin laden.

If obama is such a shoe in then why are they registering dead people and kids 72 times and getting away with it using tax payer funds?

Our tax dollars have not even begun to disappear!!

Stay tuned
I am very impressed with Philip J. Berg. He's no flake, not by a long shot.

I believe watching this video will cheer you and give you greater hope than anything we have seen so far. This is not a rumor of a RICO indictment; this a lawsuit in the courts right now that is just waiting for the judge to make a decision.

I urge you all to take the mere 10 minutes and 52 seconds it will take to view the video at the link below, and perhaps spread the link around.

This man is a true hero if he's right.

The pleadings are here: http://tinyurl.com/4fq8lf orhttp://dockets.justia.com/docket/court-paedce/case_no-2:200 8cv04083/case_id-281573/" target="_blank"> http://dockets.justia.com/docket/court-paedce/case_no-2:20 08cv04083/case_id-281573/

The video is here: http://tinyurl.com/4fwsac or
http://hillbuzz.wordpress.com/2008/10/11/the-question-of-th e-birth-certificate/#comment-6812" target="_blank">http://hillbuzz.wordpress.com/2008/10/11/the-question-of-th e-birth-certificate/#comment-6812

I am enormously encouraged.

So if you want to feel better, and more hopeful, watch it immediately.

If Berg is wrong, what is Obama really hiding, and who signed off on his qualifications to run for president? Somebody in this country must have -- but who, and what are *they* hiding by remaining silent?

Berg is going to take this to the Supreme Court if necessary, particularly, I think, if this court looks like it's going to delay rulings until after the election. I don't know if there are any statutory time requirements for the pending rulings, but Berg is not going to lie down and give up at any point.


http://dockets.justia.com/docket/court-paedce/case_no-2:200 8cv04083/case_id-281573/
http://hillbuzz.wordpress.com/2008/10/11/the-question-of-th e-birth-certificate/#comment-6812" target="_blank">http://hillbuzz.wordpress.com/2008/10/11/the-question-of-th e-birth-certificate/#comment-6812

Laura
We need you on the campaign trail because you are a true voice of reason.

Please start on the college campuses where students are voting for obama because rock the vote tells them to.

What does a college education mean anymore? Its a piece of paper.Period!

I love his strategists and advisers trying to calm our fears with these statements about obama doing whats good for us and the country.

That sign should read OBAMA BIN BIDEN!!!!

If we do wake up to a Pres Obama
it will mark a continuation of the divide we've endured during the last 8 years. After 8 years of listening to ranting and ravings of the left about Pres Bush we will have 4(?) years of hearing about whether or not Obama is actually an American citizen, whether his connection to Ayers proves he is a socialistic/anti-American, whether his connection to Rev Wright/Farrakan indicates that he believes in black supremacy and hates white people, whether his connection to ACORN meant he stole the election, whether his "tax the rich" policies will destroy the job economy.

The level of anger and distrust between the races will get worse. The anger and distrust between the political groups will get worse. The anger and distrust between the haves and the havenots will get worse.

When Obama can't fulfill all the "pie in the sky" promises he made they left is going to whine about how it's not his fault - that evil Republican adminstration created the problem. The right is going to say that he knew about the mess but said he could fix it all. Maybe the left will finally realize that their idol has the feet of clay the right accused him of having.

Obama Connections
There will be more than 3000 people from this Muslim, Atheist and Socialist source working for Obama in the White House. Are you supporting Obama? MORE.

Organizational Affiliations: ACORN, Arab American Action Network, Chicago Annenberg Challenge, Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland, P.C., International Crisis Group, MoveOn, National Council of La Raza, Planned Parenthood, Federation of America, Project Vote, Sojourners, Unions of America, Democrat Black Caucus and many more.

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewSubCategory.asp?id=8 00

technical ed in MA
I found the last link about the lawsuit but the First 2 links said page not found. This is incredible! How does this happen?! MONEY!

soros, pritzker and every scum bag rich person in his camp!Wake up United States of America!

Obama's health care
If you want an example of how Obama's healthcare will work, look at the fiasco in Massachusetts. The plans are identical. It is hugely over budget and that deficit is expected to grow by 10% a year. Now imagine that on a national scale. This will come to us courtesy of a government that cannot manage the post office efficiently.

In many states, such as mine, illegal aliens are treated free of cost at our Charity Hospital System. However, that does not prevent them from going to other medical centers and stiffing them for the bills. Under Obama's plan, illegal aliens will be covered. Does anyone think that will not be a huge draw to the indigent people in the world to come here illegally? Our healthcare system will surely suffer; but, the patients will suffer more.

FromTheTop1
Obama's campaign has a Muslim Outreach. It has met with groups who support Hamas and Hezbollah.

Does John McCain's campaign have a Muslim Outreach?

I got your Pres. Obama right here!
3am the phone rings. Without David Axelrod to tell him what to say Obama gets a call from a top leader of an Al-Queda/Taliban/Hamas combined terror cell.

They tell him that there are 40 small nukes all over the U.S. smuggled in through Mexico. If we try to find them they all go off. If we see one and try to disarm it they all go off. We are to shred the "evil instrument of godless democracy the U.S. Constitution immediately, disband our Armed Forces, open the borders and let thousands of Jihadi do as they wish in the U.S. or in 20 minutes they WILL go off.

All are 1-5 kiloton weapons. Enough to make a real mess of cities up to the size of New York but not "vaporize" them.

John McCain and Sarah Palin would call the bluff and ride out the attack THEN turn whatever country is harboring these vermin into a glass-paved parking lot.

Barry Boy Obama surrenders the U.S. in 15 minutes. THAT'S your "president" O'Vomit.

-Ray
NRA Life Member
Go 'Cuda, GO!!

Gorgegirl2
"If he wants a good National Security Advisor I would suggest Retired General Wesley Clark."

Weasley Clark? HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

You do remember that Clinton fired him right?

What cannabis are you gorging on anyway?

Public distain for the Administration...
Lie to me once shame on you; Lie to me twice shame on ME!

It appears this is the philosophy of the DNC to get everyone to vote for Obama.
Unfortunate so many Americans cannot discern a lie until it smacks them in the face and then it is too late to do a thing except gripe!
The War in Iraq was founded on a Stack of Lies, but let us make it one lie; Then Haliburton jumps in and Cheney begins round two of more lies!

Go to the phrase above!

Now the DNC has it's turn, Lies lies and more lies. Untop of this they heap piles of maligning slander, insults of uncalled for rude ness and evil tirades of misinformation that we cannot respond to because it is already mind set we lie and attack with negative ads thanks to Rove tean DESTRUCT a campaign.
Do not debate with them any longer ignore them and address the issues and their lack of one. Capitalize on what we American do best, tell it like it is, no more no less and do not get into a back and forth squabble.
Thank them for their lies and ignorance and move on ignoring them all of us.

VOTE MCCAIN/PALIN '08 Nobama never.

Executive Orders A Major Concern
The fact that a unknown young man would be voted into a position with EXECUTIVE ORDERS and to ensure that liberals would be appointed to the highest office as Justices of the U.S. Supreme Court who lean towards socialism and have friends who prefer communism and are anti-American scares the hell out of me!

How to reply to the DNC voter...........
mojobebop
Location: NY
Reply # 41
Date: Oct 12, 2008 - 8:12 AM EST Subject: stupid white people
get a brain.

Thank you for your posted insult. I will take your advice and get a brain.
YOURS, as it is apparent that you do not us it.
Vote McCain/Palin'08

Does your wife no you hate her also?
Steven
Location: NC
Reply # 61
Date: Oct 12, 2008 - 9:38 AM EST Subject: A once proud Republican
I was all set to vote for John McCain, then he picked Sarah Palin.

We at the GOP thank you brother RINO, or what ever you call yourself today.
We except your hostility towards women and believe you have homophilia and have developed a sever case of Homoiteist, which makes you queerasacameljockey. Myself I love women especially with spirit and are Republican. They are by far more attractive than your 'womman'!
Vote McCain/Palin '08

Rose finally Someone is Interested

I have been saying for sometime that Barack Obama will rule America by 'Executive Orders' with a filibuster proof Senate and veto proof House.
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"Stroke of the pen. Law of the Land. Kinda cool."
Paul Begala, former Clinton advisor, The New York Times, July 5, 1998

"We've switched the rules of the game. We're not trying to do anything legislatively."
Interior Secretary Bruce Babbitt, The Washington Times, June 14, 1999

Executive Orders (EOs) are legally binding orders given by the President, acting as the head of the Executive Branch, to Federal Administrative Agencies.

Executive Orders are generally used to direct federal agencies and officials in their execution of congressionally established laws or policies.

However, in many instances they have been used to guide agencies in directions contrary to congressional intent.

Executive Orders do not require Congressional approval to take effect but they have the same legal weight as laws passed by Congress.

steven the lifelong republican
Yeah, right.
Just post as what you are. Why pose.

I think I'll go over to your home site and pose as a lifelong liberal who is disgruntled with obama. Should I go to kos or huffpo?

Obama and Executive Orders

The president acts as the commander in chief of the nations armed forces and he is in charge of the national defense.

The president is in charge of determining United States relations with other countries.

The executive branch of the federal government is run by the president. The branch consists of thirteen executive departments, and over one hundred independent agencies.

Almost three million civilian employees and two million members of the armed forces are included in the executive branch.

There are hundreds of laws that give the president emergency powers. This means that the president has special authority to prevent or end a national emergency. The president can also give executive orders.

Executive orders have the force of a law that are issued through directions, proclamations or statements by the president.

They require no action by congress. Abraham Lincoln issued the Emancipation Proclamation which was on of the most famous executive orders ever. It declared freedom for all slaves in the areas under the confederate control.

Executive Orders take 2/3 vote of a Reid, Pelosi Congress to override or a Supreme Court decision.

Obama will stack the Supreme Court and sees the Constitution as a 'Living Document' that needs to be interpreted by the morality and needs of today - NOT by the original intent.

Only God can save us now!
How is it possible that the most liberal congressman who has accomplished nothing, has no experience, knows nothing about the military, or our constitution could come this far? May God save us, it is our only hope.

Steven
For whom did you vote in the primary?

SPECIFICALLY, what about Palin's record in Alaska makes you think that she is not fiscally conservative?

SPECIFICALLY, what do you see that convinces you that Palin is a religious 'nut job'? Her anti-abortion stand?

Retired Geek
As always, you remind us of things we have let slip from memory and put things in perspective. I appreciate you.

Why are we defending ourselves?

Why are we defending ourselves against charges of racism, coming from Barack Obama who attended a racist church 23 years?

A church who made the writings of 'Racist James Cone' required reading for all new members.

A church that awarded 'Racist Louis Farrakhan' a lifetime achievment award.

A church based on the 'Black Value System' and 'Black Separatism'.

"There is no doubt in my mind that as a member of the black community, I am obligated to this community and will utilize all of my present and future resources to benefit the black community first and foremost". Michelle Obama

Do Not defend yourself against racism - make Barack and Michelle Obama prove to us they are NOT RACISTS!

Look on the bright side...
There will be unity. No more of this nasty dissent.

Talks with Mahmoud, Hugo, and Vlad will be congenial. He will sign whatever they want and be awarded a peace prize.

He will REQUIRE those big oil companies to offer alternatives to their product (has said so). Perhaps burger joints will also be required to serve tofu.

Large corporations will pay big taxes, making the US treasury very rich (right before they leave). After they do, we'll all work for the givernment.

People who have made or saved too much money will be called to account, and made to share it.
It will be decided what a fair salary is.

The military will be dismantled (see # 2 ) and we will rely on the UN for protection.

Our children will learn to pledge allegiance to the world instead of being little nationalist patriots. They will be taught the truth about the greedy slaveholding founding fathers. We will have a rebirth with a new founding father, and the children will chant about him.

Perhaps Mrs. Obama will be appointed to the UN to help oversee the 845 billion US dollars to combat global poverty.

Kerry as sec state? Welll, he does have a history of collusion.Maybe Al Gore will be Sec Energy
Oh, and the oceans will rise.

RGeek
Excellent points.
But you realize that barack didn't know any of that. He wasn't there the days those things were preached. He probably had no social contact with the other congregants, to whom it seemed nothing new.
And he was only 45 years old when that happened.

Obama the dissembler
Why has no reporting been done on and results been given to Americans concerning whether Obama is a natural born citizen of the USA or not? If he is not, he cannot be elected president!!!!!

Anne Marie Erskine



BERG v. OBAMA et al
Plaintiff Philip J. Berg alleged that Defendant Barack Obama is not eligible for the Office of the President because Obama lost his U.S. citizenship when his mother married an Indonesian citizen and naturalized in Indonesia. Plaintiff further alleged that Obama followed her naturalization and failed to take an oath of allegiance when he turned 18 years old to regain his U.S. citizenship status.
Plaintiff: PHILIP J. BERG
Defendant: BARACK OBAMA, THE DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL COMMITTEE, THE FEDERAL ELECTION COMMISSION and DOES 1-50 INCLUSIVE

Case Number: 2:2008cv04083
Filed: August 21, 2008

Court: Pennsylvania Eastern District Court
Office: Other Statutory Actions Office [ Court Info ]
County: Montgomery
Presiding Judge: HONORABLE R. BARCLAY SURRICK

The enemy
Obama is the choice of our enemy both domestically and internationally. If this first rate imbecile is actually elected it will be the first time in our history that we will have elected a leader whose ideology is the polar opposite of what made America great. A "leader" who will do his level best to take what few freedoms we have left and to impose a marxist police state via his "Civilian Security Force". Thought police or big brother? Taliban, sharia law, cultural revolutions, brown shirts, hitler jugend, .... haven't we witnessed all of this before?

I believe that there will be civil "unrest" no matter who wins this election. What kind would you like?

DON'T TREAD ON ME!

If you're concerned about the economy
We're in a financial crises right now, and we may be headed for a depression. For good reasons. There are five elements needed for market efficiency and a financially sound economy.

1. Accurate information is widely available. Not true currently. Too many secrets being kept from the public by Congress and special interest groups.

2. Property rights are protected. Central planning by the government voids this element.

3. Private contracts are enforced such that "people can be trusted to live up to their promises." Just not possible with Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, and ACORN in existence.

4. Side effects (external costs) by third parties are curtailed. Again, just not possible with Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, ACORN and the recent hugely unpopular financial bailout by Congress.

5. Competition prevails. When a market has many buyers and many sellers, no one seller (e.g. Fannie Mae) has an advantage over anyone else. Not possible as long as Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac exist.

In summary, while many folks still seem to blame Bush for everything, our economic problems point directly to our Democratically controlled Congress, which has done its best to politicize the financial markets for its own social benefits - not the country's financial benefits.

We're supposed to be a smart people (QED). Our own report card is now as bad as Congress' because we put these non-responsive fools in Washington.

My suggestion regarding elections this fall are to throw out any democrat with socialist tendencies, and put non-interventionist conservatives back into office.

Economic scoring for each of the candidates and their colleagues (cabinet appointees) from 1-10 with 1 being the worst and 10 being the best:

Obama/Biden - score is 1 (the worst)
McCain/Palin - score is 8 (could be better)

Overall, considering the war we are in, McCain’s score will jump to a 10, and Obama’s score will stay at 1.

Your call.

BARACK'S CHANGE LIST- ADDENDUM
It's been reported that Pelosi will call the House back into session in the event that Obama is elected. If that happens, what are the odds that the Fairness Doctrine will be a prime agenda item.

Linbaugh and other conservatives on the Talk Show circuit had best be ready for an all out assault.

Depends
I don't know if this article is meant to be a farce but, ...

"... depends on how far the press .... will let him go ..." This is laughable - if not so serious.

The MSM will hail ANY BHO program as being almost devinely inspired.

Barack could - once he formed his Civilian National Security Force (CNSC) - declare himself ot be the Lifetime Leader (dictator), and the MSM might question it but would find a way to justify the declaration.

Any person, organization, group, etc., that opposed would surely get an immediate visit from the CNSC. There would probably be a rebellious civil war, but BHO doesn't care because he could call on the UN and his Muslim friends to put down the rebellion.

Beckel
Bob Beckel says, “The idea that Barack Obama is going to bring socialism to this country is just crazy.” Beckel is the one that is "just crazy". Every time this partisan hack is on Fox News as a "political consultant - Fox News Contributor" I change channels for a few minutes.

Obama is as socialist as Lenin and will govern as such. He's leaning toward the "center" now because that's the path to his election. A leopard can hide in the grass, but it "CAN'T CHANGE IT'S SPOTS". You're being hoodwinked, America, wake up before it's too late. Some "battleground states", notably Ohio, have already been stolen in this "ends justifies the means" socialist's campaign, that means we have to be extra dilligent about the vote in other states.

Dead? Socialism? Don't Bet On It!
Bob Beckel bloviates:

"The idea that Barack Obama is going to bring socialism to this country is just crazy."

I guess that makes the editors of the Investors' Business Daily "crazy", then.

An IBD editorial dated Friday, October 10th, 2008 begins:

"'Why has the market dropped so much?' everyone asks. What is it about the specter of our first SOCIALIST PRESIDENT (my emphasis) and the end of capitalism as we know it that they don't understand?"

The IBD editorial continues:

"It isn't only that the most anti-capitalist politician ever nominated by a major party is favored to take the White House. It's that he'll also have a filibuster-proof Congress led by politicians who are almost as liberal.

"Throw in a media establishment dedicated to the implementation of a liberal agenda, and the smothering of dissent wherever it arises, and it's no wonder panic has set in."

And more:

"The businesses that create jobs and generate wealth are already discounting the future based on what they know about Obama's plans to raise income, capital gains, dividend and payroll taxes, and his various other economy-crippling policies. Which helps explain why world stock markets have been so topsy-turvy.

"But don't take our word for it. One hundred economists, five Nobel winners among them, have signed a letter noting just that."

To read the IBD editorial in its entirety:

http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=3085303652 66606


Obama not a socialist?
Obama has long sought out relationships with communists, anti-Americans, those who excuse terror, the anti-capitalism crowd, and those who would use education to indoctrinate and politicize our children. Here's a link to some info I've compiled

http://inyourrightmind.blogtownhall.com/2008/10/10/obama__w ho_are_you.thtml

Obama has been called politically pragmatic, meaning he will say or do anything to get elected. I saw a quote that he went to Harvard Law School so he could fully understand how power worked in preparation for his political career. I suspect he will manipulate all aspects of government to his goals (e.g., who he appoints to the Supreme Court); he is slick. Really, I think he is running a campaign based on Saul Alinsky principles (Rules for Radicals). Even Alinsky's son thinks so. I think he has a very strong socialist agenda that will be uncovered if and when he is elected.

In terms of governing by executive order, he won't have to with Democrats dominating both houses of Congress and Reid and Pelosi leading the show.

Where are you, John?
I am at a low point in my support for John McCain. Yesterday McCain said in referring to Barack Obama "I have to tell you, he is a decent person and a person that you do not have to be scared of as president of the United States.". To me McCain has all but conceded the election to Obama with that statement. McCain still does not get what is happening to America. It is not folks are so much scared of Obama, it is Obama's politics and friends (Wright/Ayers/Rezko/Khalidi/etc) that are frightening to us. My morale has been sapped by McCain and I am mulling the prospect of not voting this November. McCain just does not "Get It" about his own supporters.

RE: GOOD GRIEF!!!
If this person who wrote this aritcle actually thinks that Obamarxist is not going to implement socialist programs, she is drinking cool-ade!! This guy reaks of Socialism!! Oh, and you that cling to your guns and the like, you better get it now becuase if Obamarxist is in there there will be sweeping legislation to ban firearms, AND THAT IS A FACT JACK!!!! THE RECORD DOES'NT LIE!!!

Socialism is Dead?
Apparently that commentator has never been to Canada or Europe.

Obama is a communist; he couldn't read and understand a balance sheet with a gun at his head. He therefore doesn't understand how profit creates capital and how capital allows America to be the world leader it is.

Obama thinks that competition is bad, it makes the loser feel bad. No one should be made to feel bad. So he will replace the competition that created as an example Microsoft with cooperatives which create for example, nothing.

The country will be bankrupt in 4 years of solid hard-left socialism and the legacy of the Obama Presidency if by some fluke he were to manage to win, will be similar to that of Jimmy Carter's.


Cheers,

Bloefeld

THE SHEEP, THE GOAT AND THE SHEPHERD

...1. The sheep are 50+ percent of the electorate, Democrats, moderates and the undecided ...

...2. The Judas Goat is Obama who will lead the sheep to the slaughter ...

...3. The shepherd is George Soros and the mega rich International bankers ...

.....America will wake up one day and find out that it has become a Socialist State ...they won't call it Socialism ...they will come up with a politically correct pseudonym ...a newspeak term right out of Orwell's 1984 .....COLOSSUS

for ambrose
ambrose writes: "Obama is carrying to much baggage to govern. The county will be screaming back and forth about Ayers, ayers wife, wright and that crazy chicago priest, lesko, acorn, and who knows how many more will come out of the woodwork. It'll be utter chaos for his entire term."

I'll bet you that nobody will care about any of that stuff a month after the election is over.

Except for Rush Limbaugh and Michelle Malkin.

The GOP dragged it out to stop Obama, not for any other reason. If Obama wins (which is likely), they will drop it again.

That's what I've been trying to explain: The GOP cannot hope to make a comeback on that kind of drivel. And they know it.

Did anybody still care about Bush's DUI charge after he was inaugurated?

The Chopping Block
The Chopping Block: "The left is so awash in hatred and anger that they have lost all rational thought. "

You should talk!

The posts I'm reading in this discussion by conservatives border on the psychotic:

"Obama is the Antichrist"

"Obama will shut down the Internet"

"A year into the reign of Leader Obama, this web site will be purged, the year after that the writers for this website will be purged, the year after that all of this website’s comment makers will be purged."

Do you really BELIEVE any of this CRAP???

If so, you need to consult a mental health professional, ASAP. Because you're clearly hysterical.


for Jane
Jane writes: "we will have 4(?) years of hearing about whether or not Obama is actually an American citizen, whether his connection to Ayers proves he is a socialistic/anti-American"

No way!

This entire smear campaign has been deliberately cranked up by the GOP to try to distract the voters from McCain's incoherence on the economy. They feed out these talking-points to sympathetic columnists and talk-show hosts who then run with it and get the rank-and-file Republicans and conservatives worked up into a frenzy.

As soon as Obama wins and the election is over, the GOP won't spend one more dime on this stuff, and it will quickly evaporate. That's what happens to all smear campaigns after the election is over.

Did anyone care about Bush's DUI charge after he won the 2000 election? No, because the Dems just dropped it.



An Obama Presidency
HORRORS!!! If memory serves me correctly, this country fought a terrible war close to 150 years ago to get rid of, among other things, slavery and the accompanying plantation system. Weren't there enough lives lost and families and property destroyed then? Why are so many people so eager to slap us back on that plantation again with Massah
Government in charge telling us every breath to take? That's why we're in the mess we're in now, depending on the powers that be to take control of all aspects of our lives - just another form of slavery in my book. PLEASE wake up and smell the coffee while you can still afford it.

WATCH IT !!!
Tonight (Sun, Ovt 12, 9 p.m.) on FOX, Sean Hannity is going to air an important documentary about Barack Hussein Obama.

It will be a DETAILED expose on Barack's radical associations plus more things we haven't even heard about. We will find out even more about Obama than ever.

Be sure to watch it!

for Summers
Summers writes: "Under Obama's plan, illegal aliens will be covered. "

By current law, illegal aliens MUST be treated at a hospital if they need care. That's already true, TODAY. We don't let anyone die in the streets in America, even if they have broken the law.

So who do you think pays for the hospital care of illegal aliens now? SOMEBODY has to pay, right?

Try to figure it out.

We are ONE country. If by law, illegal aliens are cared for at local hospitals, then SOMEBODY in America is paying for that, right now. Who is it?

SteveL
The more rational among us don't really believe Obama is the antichrist. The antichrist is just a guy in his neighborhhod, or that he met once at a party.

Collective threat
Under Marxist Obama the individual human being will not matter, only the ideas of mass- mindedness will count, group think will be the order of the day and their state of mind whether sane or insane will never be questioned.
What we see in Marxist Obama’s supporters is fanaticism being used as a weapon to shut down free opinion, we on the right who believe in this country and it’s already established greatness are somehow being portrayed as the heretics, only because we refuse to let go of our individuality, who we are as people and a great Nation.
It’s our individualism that makes America great! Not collective mass-mindedness, and in willing to sacrifice their individualism to become part of the crowd they become slaves to the leaders ideology.

McCain will withdraw
Shortly before election day John McCain will withdraw and tell us to vote for Obama as a show of national unity. The Republican party may not survive this fool. If it does we must make sure that a pompous stupid fool like John McCain never again gets our party's nomination. I pray daily for a brain to burst in his empty head.

SteveL
However, with medical insurance, the illegal aliens will seek more medical care than they currently do. Doctors' offices will be more crowded as will hospitals.

I have never advocated letting someone die on the sidewalk for lack of medical care. Such notion takes a leap of imagination in an attempt to make my not wanting illegal aliens covered by insurance to seem as a moral failing or a criminal intent.

My point is two-fold: We cannot afford it as a fiscal matter. We cannot afford it as a matter of the number of physicians/surgeons we have and will have in the future.

The Result of an Obama Victory
For years I've waited for the American people to wake up and take their country back. We have aliens, legal and illegal, coming into our country and telling us to speak their languages, criminals with more rights than their victims, illegal aliens getting perks that American citizens cannot, one insane judicials decision after another, etc.
An Obama win would erode our rights further. First conservative talk-radio will go so we can never organize for the next attempt to give the illegals amnesty. Conservative internet web-sites would be declared "hate speech" and be prosecuted by the federal government. Anti-Obama books like "The Obama Nation" would also be hate-speech and removed from libraries. More crazy left-wing judges would be appointed for lifetime appointments to the federal bench, etc.
An Obama victory would mean most Americans are finally brain-dead from years of propaganda from the news media and Hollywood.
The only positive is that it may finally wake many Americans up to what has happened to our country. Maybe, finally, those Americans who still love this country will get together and take our country back.

Nobodys_Thom
You are either reading too many cheap spy novels or you are ingesting something illegal. I will give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you were making an attempt at humor.

IF THERE'S A PRESIDENT OBAMA.....
MAY
GOD
HELP
US
ALL!!

lets start a pool
How long from the election of "President Obama"(shudder),until we see an overthrow of the US Constitution? How long from the time of his "appointment," to the day he "comes to power?"

Wagers?

Please Vote the McCain/Palin Ticket

Pollyanna that I am, I refuse to give up today on the McCain/Palin ticket. It could be better. But we all know the alternative.

Three weeks is a long time for things to happen in this particular election. Many more people than we suppose right now will be voting for the McCain/Palin ticket.

Every single day I will be praying for God to protect our country, the McCain/Palin ticket (the only one which God could endorse), our economy, our families, and our very own lives. I will pray for God to lift the veil preventing US voters from seeing Obama as he really is. I will be praying for God to send everyone who ever even thought about voting Republican to the polls this November 4. Don't give up, don't give in, and don't let go.

Remember Sodom and Gomorrah? God couldn't find ten good people. Well, it's pretty obvious there are more than that on this thread.


EXCELLENT...
Let the changes begin!!!

SteveL
I'm with ya! Not only are we paying HIGH dollar for emergency care for aliens but, for our own citizens including children. Wonder if any one of these folks would give up their Medicare benefits? What I find so interesting is this "terrorist" "Muslim" thing. Did the Patriot Act go defunct or somehow lose Barack between the cracks? Where has our FBI and CIA been? How many more have infiltrated our House and Senate or government in general? What I hear on here is folks can't make up their mind what Obama is other than different. Some unwittingly have described him as a modern day Robin Hood. The Republican party has done a bang up job. They've bought it hook line and sinker.

Salena Zito
please hand in your conservative credentials if you ever had any...

retired geek
Excellent point!! obama and his woman should be made to prove that they aren't racists themselves!! instead of us defending ourselves. After 23 years in a black seperatist church and some of the affiliates he's been known to pal around with AND some of the quotes coming from their own mouths! How dare us put America haters in the white house!! That's the "damn" pastor rev. Wright was speaking of.... If we let anti Americans into the white house, surely we are damned...

obama presidency
OK Beckel, i'm buying in! the word socialism should be deleted and tweaked to MARXISM! see 'ya in the commune . . .comrad!

Things I Hate To Think Of.....
.....President and First Lady Barack Hussein and Michelle Obama ......

1980
I think that the same predictions were made of Jimmy Carter over Ronald Reagan back in 1980. It's not over yet despite the fact that the press is trying to make it look that way.

Comments
Salena,
Are you going to say anything about these comments?

Will Obama be given the election
I must say this weekend I was without hope. Not understanding why, but seeing that news is being so controlled by someone that we no longer really know what is true anymore. The courts have now said that it is ok for Ohio to fix the election by not just ignoring voter fraud but protecting it. If I keep my thoughts on what I hear on talk radio and Fox News I feel helpless. But, today at church I was reminded that my faith is in God. I do not understand my country anymore. I believe the election is already fixed and we are in real trouble. But God is bigge.

Linda...Let NOT your heart be troubled..
God IS in control...Have faith...be patient...love your family…vote Rebublican...It will all turn out OK .. In time :)

Obama does not like America
It is very apparent to many that Obama is part of the hate America crowd. He is a left wing elitist that wants to put all of his theories into practice. One that will destroy this country completely is this crap about income redistribution. It will amount to taking away the meager wealth of the people who work and give it to those that do not work. He has this idea that he can talk to our enemies and solve our problems. He has not idea that with all of our current enemies the weaker we are the better they like it. While we are talking they will be overcoming us and conniving to finish us off.

wonderful stream..
Now I will sleep well

Ron
God isn't a republican or a democrat. And i sort of doubt he's be supporting a guy who runs off on his family and lies so egregiously.

Taft ..Never said any of what...
you say I did...anyway Taft...
God IS in control...Have faith...be patient...love your family…vote Rebublican (OR WHAT EVER)...It will all turn out OK .. In time :)

OBAMA NOT A CITIZEN OF THE USA?
Am I the only one who did not know about a lawsuit contesting Obama's citizenship? Go to http://www.obamacrimes.com and view the video and check it out and let me know what you think!

mary@beachrentalsofsouthwalton.com

"President" Barack Obama
Since all clinically normal human beings shudder and choke to see the word "president" linked with the name "Barack Obama," I propose that, in the case that the American sheeple actually prove venal enough to elect him to that office, that ALL conservative writers, columnists, and bloggers refer to him and his minions as the Obama junta, and NEVER as the Obama administration.

I will consent to more TAXES
And the dumbed down middle class apparantly do not realize it is THEY who will pay those increased taxes on the upper class because goods and service will DOUBLE in price....TO OFFSET what the government takes...

I agree with more taxes when:
All congressmen/women and Senators REDUCE their current staff and administrative costs by 25%

All elected officials take an IMMEDIATE 25% pay cut

All elected officials turn in their limo's, private jets and turn back their million dollar plus expense accounts

All elected officials voluntarily reduce their million dollar life time perks, pensions and benefits.

All government agencies REDUCE their budget by CUTTING their present budget by 20% instead of demanding the annual increases and then cutting the increese..FREEZE your budgets to 25% of 2008 levels.

Stop all give aways to foreign governments
Pull out of the U.N and sell that property and give the money to the national debt

DO ALL THIS (DO DON"T TAlk) and THEN ASK ME FOR ANOTHER NICKLE...Don't do it...and WE THE PEOPLE SHOULD FIRE EVERY LAST ONE OF YOU.

GET A LIFE
I agree with several people posted here: Unless it is discovered that Obama is a child molester or serial rapist and/or murderer, we are facing an Obama prezduncey. Other than naming Sarah palin as his VP choice, Mc Cain has done absolutely nothing to give us any reason whatsoever to vote for HIM. Those who call him Mc Lame have it about right. I absolutely refuse to vote for him simply because he is a Repulsivecan, and he has done nothing to show me why he is a better alternative than the Dumbocrat. In the financial crisis of the last three weeks, Obama has exuded confidence and cam, while it has been McCain running around, accomplishing nothing. I don't know for sure what I'm getting with an Obama vote, but I damn sure don't like what I have now, and I see no evidence that much would change with Mc Cain. I'm Republican and conservative, but I'm concerned for America first. VOTE 'EM ALL OUT!!

President BHO & the "race card"
If and when BHO becomes the President, any legitimate criticism of his proposals, appointments, etc. will of course be met with the charge of "racism". Please remember, according to his fawning "water-carriers" in the MSM, e.g., New York Times, etc.: the use of the word "skinny" in referring to Obama is racist. Using the words "community organizer" is racist. Saying BHO – an ultra-left progression pandering to feminists & hyphenated-Americans – doesn't see America the same way a conservative would is racist. Using his middle name is racist. This list goes on and on...

Whether BHO wins or loses this election, please be prepared for the inevitable celebratory or outrage-driven riots by urban thugs who share BHO's sense of entitlement & skin hue. BHO's campaign will inevitably damage "race relations" (an oxymoron) for the next 40 years.

After 40 years of supporting the racial-spoils game (which produced BHO, the 1st affirmative action Presidential-candidate) & the associated social welfare industrial complex, mainstream society (i.e., whites & those individuals who subscribe to merits of Western Civilization) need to realize a subtle truth: "If you give a mouse a cookie..."

LTC Donahue, USAF(ret): Godspeed
Hal Donahue
Location: PA
Reply # 136
Date: Oct 12, 2008 - 9:47 PM EST wonderful stream..
Now I will sleep well


LTC Donahue:

Godspeed.

END THE CHARADE NOW--SIGN THE PETITION
Join the ever increasing numbers of your fellow citizens and stop Obama's illegal run for President:

http://www.rallycongress.com/constitutional-qualification/1 244/

CALL YOUR LOCAL TALK SHOW HOST AND REMIND THEM THAT OBAMA HAS REFUSED TO RELEASE HIS BIRTH CERTIFICATE!

What will they do?
When President Shoe Shine has to deal with the REAL threats out there from folks who don't LIKE our freedom, our way of life and resent our affluence? They also don't want THEIR people trying to better themselves and rise to our level. He's probably still trying to find a way to surrender in Iraq and anywhere ELSE he can think of.

-Ray
NRA Life Member
Go 'Cuda, GO!!!

Wrat Wrangler
"Date: Oct 13, 2008 - 12:33 PM EST What will they do?
When President Shoe Shine has to deal with ... He's probably still trying to find a way to surrender in Iraq and anywhere ELSE he can think of.

-Ray
NRA Life Member"

Hey little NRA member exactly what do you mean by the phrase "President Shoe Shine"?

Ask Daley!!
He was nothing but Richard Daley's go-fer boy and underling till he decided to run for state senate. He knocked out the top candidate a REAL black woman by the way using an arcane political maneuver and then used the same hammer on the rest.

That's Chicago street thug politics: don't level the field, CLEAR IT!!. He didn't even write his two books. I just heard an expert on plagiarism whose job is to give testimony in court go on for 30 minutes listing all the similarities between the writing style of Bill Ayers and the style in Obama's so-called books.

He's NOT his own man. He's a CLOWN being run by others who will CONTINUTE to run him if he is elected. Get you snout out of his alimentary terminus before you contract anal poisoning.

-Ray
NRA Life Member
Go 'Cuda, GO!!
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