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Wednesday, April 29, 2009
John Stossel :: Townhall.com Columnist
Government Help Hurts
by John Stossel
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"Rate hikes and late fee traps have to end. No more fine print, no more confusing terms and conditions", said President Obama last week when advocating another big-government solution -- this time to evils committed by credit-card companies.

Credit cards are a demagogue's dream come true. What better way to win public affection than to rail against banks for their harsh terms? In the politicians' morality play, creditors are the villains and debtors their helpless victims.

A little context first: No one has a natural right to a credit card. Someone has to be willing to undertake the risk in issuing it. Banks issue cards in their quest for profits. Nothing wrong with that.

Think about what a credit card is. It's convenient access to unsecured loans, permitting consumers to buy things large and small -- not to mention emergency services -- without cash. Pay the bill promptly, and you enjoy a fantastic service for virtually nothing. If circumstances prevent you from paying the bill in full, you can set your own payment schedule, realizing there is a minimum payment and that you will be charged interest on the unpaid balance. No surprise there.

To appreciate credit cards, it is worth recalling that before they came along, people got personal loans from banks, finance companies, pawnshops and loan sharks. Such loans were less convenient, and repayment was less flexible. Some people bought things on layaway, which meant they didn't take the goods home until they were paid for. Loan sharks sometimes broke people's legs.

Credit cards didn't create consumer debt -- they are merely a superior alternative to older methods.

As President Obama and other politicians demagogue this issue, keep two things in mind: Life would be more difficult without credit cards, and banks don't have to keep issuing them. Be careful what you ask for.

Politicians are too short-sighted and vote-hungry to say such things. They want a "credit card holders' bill of rights" that would prohibit certain billing practices, like raising interest rates on existing balances. The House could approve the "bill of rights" this week.

Understandably, these billing practices endear themselves to no one, but competition makes the worst of them far less common. And as for raising rates, revolving credit means that a balance is a fresh loan each month; as the terms state, the rate can change. If issuers can never raise rates on existing balances, even when economic conditions change, they will be likely to charge everyone a higher rate to make up for the risk.

Todd Zywicki, a professor at George Mason University Law School and an expert on consumer credit, points out that the credit-card industry is highly competitive. The web is full of sites that permit easy comparison shopping. Competition has driven banks to more precisely match consumer costs to individual risk. In earlier days, every cardholder paid higher interest rates than today and an annual fee (a way around usury laws). Now, annual fees are largely gone. Rates are lower. Late and over-the-limit fees are unpleasant, but they aren't charged until a cardholder's conduct triggers them. This is not to say credit-card companies never abuse customers, but as Zywicki notes, "[T]here are ample tools for courts and regulators to attack deceptive and fraudulent practices on a case-by-case basis."

Politicians assume we are ignorant about credit-card terms. However, Zywicki points to evidence that people who carry credit-card balances are aware of the interest rate they're paying, and "those who carry larger balances are even more likely to ... comparison shop."

The "bill of rights" seems designed to prevent people from getting themselves in over their heads. That motive is honorable, but government has never been very good at such protection. The law of unintended consequences cannot be repealed, and what government gives with one hand, it inadvertently takes away with the other. Increasing the banks' costs will make it harder for poorer people to get credit cards, and that will only push them into costlier forms of debt, like payday lenders.

I've never understood how the poor are helped by limiting their choices.

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Another Smokescreen
John, I love your work but you know as well as I do that this credit cardholder "bill of rights" is only another smokescreen to draw attention away from what the Feds are really doing, or not doing, for and to the People and their freedoms.

It's an issue designed to prey upon the emotions of the electorate while simultaneously providing those legislators a vehicle by which they can simply look busy.

Lip-service is all Washington, including the President, is giving to the issue. They'll talk about it until the new regulations instituted by the Federal Reserve come into effect. No one in Washington plans to actually DO anything of substance about the egregious practice of exorbitant rate hikes by the same banks who then turn around and, pointing to their high default rate, want more taxpayer money. Our senators and representatives just want to give we the People the impression that they care.

Just a smokescreen is all this credit card bill of rights is.

Credit does not = free
I know someone who would always buy things on credit and then get upset when the bill came, and then get even more upset when the item got repossessed or the bill collectors started calling.

We've lost contact, but I'll bet he never learned.

If government is going to do anything about credit, maybe it should be providing educational programs for those who don't understand how credit works. It wouldn't cost very much, if the media cooperated in a series of PSAs.

Or maybe credit card companies could do that. I've noticed a decided lessening of the commercials on TV that suggest having a card means you never have to pay for anything.

Get rid of your ...
credit cards. You CAN live debt free if you will it! Google Dave Ramsey to learn how to get your financial house in order. Scripture teaches that the borrower is servant to the lender. Do you really want to be somebody's slave? Financial Peace University not only gave me my life back, it saved my marriage!

Tod Kozeluh
Lexington, KY

Credit Cards
Remind me of that old SNL skit. "Don't buy it if you don't have the money".

I have always had a credit card
ONE card that I could use, IF needed. I figured it was an easy way to 'borrow money short term.' And it was. And, I still use it that way.

What I object to about my credit card and ALL credit cards is that "CREDIT LIMIT."

Quit raising it! I can now buy a house with my credit card!

THAT is what gets people into trouble. They are lulled by the low cost of 'putting off payment.' I ONLY owe $10 on a $100 purchase (for something like 3 YEARS you clod! Ends up paying HUNDREDS of $ on the $100 'loan.')

That is the only thing I would change. The "limit" should be fixed to the card owner's income. But, I'm not a financial guru and can't quite figure out how much...

Never had one, never will
I am 54 years old and debt free. I own my own house and my car is paid for. I only pay monthly living expenses and have a nice savings account. Wanna know how I did this? It's simple... I have never had a credit card. You see, when I was growing up, my parents always made me save my allowance and paid a little extra each week when I did extra chores. If I wanted something extra, I had to save for it. Usually by the time I had enough money, I didn't really want that particular item anymore, and maybe bought something else or saved for the next impulse. Consequently, I learned the value of a REAL dollar. If the parents of today would teach their children that good things come to those who save and wait, then maybe things would change for the next generation. Unfortunately, the parents of today have taught their children, for the most part, that if you want something you should have it NOW. No matter that you might be put into debt for a long time working hard to pay it off and having nothing else in the meantime. Also, these same people have taught their children that if they are unable to pay those debts, the government will pick up the tab. (Hence the mortgage debacle.) Shame on those who think that the people who work hard and pay their bills on time should also pay your debts.

John Stossel
wrote: "I've never understood how the poor are helped by limiting their choices."

It is simple John. The poor make poor choices. They pay exorbitant rates to payday loan companies because they cannot wait until they get their next paycheck or government payment. This increases the likelihood that they will get in debt above their ability to repay it. The solution is easy. Restrict the terms lenders can charge to such high risks thereby eliminating the market for such products. Now the poor will be unable to get loans. Problem solved once again by our benevolent government. If people make bad choices the solution is simply eliminating their ability to make choices. You gotta get with the times John. You are so old fashioned.

Help!
Somebody! stop me before I charge again

The secret is in how you use it...
To Catherine in MO: while I admire your ability of being able to avoid the scourge of credit cards for all these years, please allow me to ask a few questions to you...
1. Have you ever tried to rent a car without a credit card?
2. How do you travel without a credit card?
3. Would you rather walk around with a pocket full of cash or a piece of plastic that allows you to use as much as you need to (up to your limit, of course)? Nobody will be bashing your head in in order to get their hands on your credit card.

Bottom Line: the REAL problem is in how people use this piece of plastic. Echoing the sentiments of other people posting on this topic, it is NOT "free money." Responsible users will use a "credit" card as a "charge" card. For example, you pull up to the pump to get some gasoline in your car. Swipe the card, fuel up, get your receipt, and enter it into your checkbook. At the end of the month, your credit card purchases are already subtracted from your balance...write a check to pay the account in full, AND YOU ARE STILL DEBT-FREE.

Maybe banks and creditors shouldn't be sending credit cards to high risk users...not unlike people buying too much house for their income. Do the words "Fannie Mae" and "Freddie Mac" ring a bell?

Congratulations on being debt free. You are surely doing all the right things. Have a great day.

Business Pays Too
The consumer side of credit card costs is only one side. I own a business and we accept credit cards. The specific amount it costs me to accept a particular card for a particular payment varies. Overall, the charges average around 3.25%

So, the credit card companies are getting a percentage of every sale plus whatever they charge the consumer for interest.

Keep the government out of the equation. Costs will only go up.


Credit vs Debit
Most banks these days have something called a debit card. Debit cards immediately pull the money out of your bank account the second it is swiped. It's just a fancy way to carry cash around. This gets around the problems of getting airline tickets or rental cars. Debit cards have Visa and MasterCard logos on them. they do exactly the same thing, except you don't have to send a check in every month.

Credit cards are as John said, a means to borrow money. You use a credit card when you don't have the money right now, meaning it had better be an emergency or don't use it. If you're using a credit card to buy a television or pay a restaurant tab (assuming it isn't a business reimbursible, then it makes sense) with a credit card and not a debit card or (heaven forbid), cash, then you have no business being out there buying that product or service in the first place.

If anything, we need to let banks charge even MORE for not paying off your card on time. There should be severe punishments for living beyond your means. People who get in trouble with credit cards aren't paying for their kids' open heart surgery with them, they're buying Playstations and booze.

Obama Works To Grow Government & Poverty
Everything Obama does, contributes to a larger Government and an expanding poor class. He spends money like it comes from heaven or a tree of some kind. This dimwit of a president has no concept of how wealth or poverty are created.

So, instead of lowering taxes and getting the Government out of the way to let the floodgates of industry explode with opportunities and jobs, Obama seeks to raise taxes and Government meddling. There are no greater impediments to industry and wealth creation than taxes and Government.

With Obama in office, we can look forward to a whole lot more poor people and a whole lot less freedom to do anything about it.

When America put Obama in office, it was out of its mind.

To Obama, Your Freedom Is So Over-Rated
Hitchhiker offers, with a grin, "If people make bad choices the solution is simply eliminating their ability to make choices. You gotta get with the times John. You are so old fashioned."

Absolutely!

Look at this way, the only time that you have a problem is when you have a choice. Obama is simply all about making your life problem free.

Now, isn't that better?

Complete Picture
While I agree with the basic premise of the article,... I find that the credit card companies have become deceptive and extremely predatory. Some of their actions are clearly underhanded and less than ethical. The fact they they have gotten themselves in so much trouble is simply "the chickens coming home to roost". Changing interest rates with very little or no real justification is nothing more than gouging. I have no sympathy for Visa or Master Card. It's too bad that the poor tax player will have to bail these clowns out. It is these underhanded and unethical practices that need to be stopped. The concept of credit cards is fine, it's too bad that it has been so poorly managed by the credit card companies and others.

John, I LOVE YA, but...
...gotta disagree with ya on THIS issue. Credit card companies contributed ALOT to our present economic crisis. First, it's THEM who approves or disapproves someone for credit. They haven't figured out how to determine WHO IS A RISK and who isn't?! Credit card offers went out by the MILLIONS; every household probably got hundreds a piece. Along with the endless mantra like MUZAK from the government: "BUY, BUY, BUY, it's good for the economy! Do your patriotic duty today!" What I saw was, once most Americans got on board with plastic, then credit card companies applied the "frog in the water pot" treatment, slipping us higher and higher credit lines (unsolicited) which we admittedly failed to notice, most keeping their eye on How Close am I getting to my Max? instead. Most initial terms were FIXED Rates, too. But as the companies began to catch a glimpse of how their staging/aggressive promotion was resulting in growing opportunity for abuse, they started putting on the boil - higher fees, changing terms without notice ("because WE CAN", said one large bank CEO to Congress in 2007)...

Part Two will follow.

PART TWO...
I'm not the only person whose interest rate went up astronomically after ONE late payment (inadvertently; only once in 18 YEARS! Then, to 32.99%!!); that's really accelerated, too. We USED TO HAVE USURY LAWS!! Let's not forget the old "if you got close to or hit your Max, any charge attempt is DECLINED" (good for consumer & bank); they changed THAT to letting those charges go on thru, so as to collect extra fees that were triggered. When the snowball really got rolling, their lobbyists successfully obtained from Congress the Bankruptcy Act of 2005, making it harder for people to have a way out from under onerous balances/rates. An amendment (capping interest rates at 30%) FAILED.
Come on, John! It wasn't JUST blissfully ignorant or willfully irresponsible consumers... Many big banks have been paying out a mere 1.5% interest on savings for nearly a decade but charging 32.99% interest?! I used to work for a bank, the fees alone amounted to HUGE AMOUNTS collected. RISK IS known, but banks give more and more credit out ANYWAY? Not everyone has so much income that they can pay their balances in full every month and use plastic only as a convenience. Some got sucked into the cultural trend away from cash and weren't savvy enough to handle it. They may have ultimately abused credit, but many also WERE ABUSED.

The real joke is...
NOW (after the horse is a long time out of the barn, if you will) Congress suddenly takes an interest in a cardholders' Bill of Rights!? They want to be our new-found friend and champion? HAAAHAAAHAAAHAAAHAAA

These new rights I suppose would apply to new card applicants... but Credit is dried up! They are too darned late to be worth anything.

"I'm From the Guvmint"
"and I'm here to help"!!! Yeah, Right!! I agree with "Just a Smokescreen is all this is". If the average Joe-Six pack is half as Dumb as the Current Administration perceive "em to be, then this Country is in worse shape than I thought..The DEBIT Card is the best thing that ever happened to me.. Try It, U'll Like it11 Remember that??



Stossel is WRONG Here #1
Unfortunately, the banks are run by rapacious fools [remember the CURRENT financial debacle?]. They live for the opportunity to screw people and jack up their interest rates to levels they will never be able to repay ... just like the mob, but not as benevolent! Recently, American Express which I had a long stable relationship with [they didn't try to screw me], and after increasing my credit limit several times, eventually to $42,000, raised my interest rate by 30%. Usually, you can close the account if you don't like the new rules, but AMEX didn't allow that [I have closed probably 20 credit card accounts just for that reason].

Stossel is WRONG Here #2
I called the weasels about why the change and was given a song and dance and several lies [no creditor has ever lost a penny or even been paid late]. I informed them that their cost of money was the LOWEST it had ever been [all true and they got TARP money, besides], yet they were raising my rates substantially! When I checked my credit report I found I am in the highest rated category. Weasels ... yes, incompetent ... demonstrably so. They deserve what they get, and trust me, I'll still get five credit card offers a week as opposed to Stossel's guess that credit will be "restricted"! Which, is not a bad idea for many!

From Life's Little Instruction Book
Use credit cards for convenience, never for credit. -- H. Jackson Browne

Good article, Mr. Stossel
I'm glad to finally see someone articulate what I think about every time I hear of this proposed legislation. The bottom line here is that none of these "harsh" penalties take effect until the consumer does something stupid, like fails to pay their bill on time.

I use my credit cards for nearly everything (I carry a nominal amount cash only for emergencies). I've never paid a credit card late fee or one cent in interest. Why? Because I pay my bill on time every month! I don't understand you folks who think there is something wrong with credit cards---I see them as a fantastic convenience, especially now that nearly every retailer accepts them.
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