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Monday, February 02, 2009
Jackie Gingrich Cushman :: Townhall.com Columnist
Weapons of Mass Instruction: Public Education as a Civic Necessity
by Jackie Gingrich Cushman
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Good schools have great teachers and involved parents. When I walk into our children’s school, it is swarming with parents; parents reading, parents making copies, parents tutoring, parents helping with crafts. Everywhere you look there are parents, parents, parents. In some ways, it might look like a civil defense drill, and possibly should be thought of as such. In fact, education is nothing less than a national security issue.

Given that, comments made last week by our commander-in-chief, President Barack Obama, reminded me that he lives in a different world than most of us. "My children's school was canceled today. Because of what? Some ice?" he said. What was not mentioned was that his children attend Sidwell Friends, a private school. A call to the public school system in Washington revealed that they were open that same day.

”D.C. Public Schools’ first priority is to open schools to fulfill our obligation to educate our students whenever possible,” according to Jennifer Calloway, assistant press secretary of the District of Columbia Public School System, in a written statement. “We remain sensitive to the needs of families who are not able to arrange childcare when schools must unexpectedly close and the children who depend on a healthy meal from DCPS.”

The D.C. public school system, which serves 46,000 students, has some of that flinty Chicago toughness the president mentioned in regards to braving bad weather. If his daughters had been enrolled in public school, they would have had the opportunity to brave the elements and attend school that day.

When Obama moved into the White House, his children transferred from one private school, the University of Chicago Laboratory Schools, where tuition for grades 1 – 4 is more than $18,000 per year, to Sidwell Friends School, where the tuition exceeds $28,000 per year. Millions of children do not have this opportunity.

Public school performance is indeed a national security issue. The Hart-Rudman Commission identified the nation’s failure in math and science education as the second-biggest threat to our national security (with the first being proliferation of weapons of mass destruction and terrorism). The 2008 national graduation rate from public high schools was an alarming low 70 percent. According to the Alliance for Excellent Education, “approximately 1.2 million students-that's 7,000 every school day-do not graduate from high school on time.” Whites and Asians graduate at higher rates than do African Americans and Hispanics.

Clearly, the system is not working. What America needs are weapons of mass instruction.

This is a crisis, As Education Secretary Arne Duncan noted, “there is a tremendous sense of urgency because we can't wait….Our children have just one chance to get a quality education.” For many, that chance is passing them by.

Eight years ago, when I was pregnant with my second child, my husband and I set out to buy a larger home. Like all prospective homebuyers, we had quite a few “wants” on our list, (large yard, low traffic and low price), some of which were not achievable. But we had one criterion that was more important than all the others: The house had to be located in a good public school district. Like many parents in our neighborhood, we made tradeoffs to move into such a house – my 1955 stove, Formica kitchen counters and fake brick linoleum might not be the latest fashion, but they work and helped make our home affordable.

Education provides students with a chance to learn, and a chance to earn credentials. What the degrees and certificates provide is witness to the world that you are able to finish the program, are persistent, work hard, and have the ability to buckle down and focus when needed.

Our public education system was championed by Thomas Jefferson, who said in 1817 that the plan was proposed to “to avail the commonwealth of those talents and virtues which nature has sown as liberally among the poor as rich, and which are lost to their country by the want of means for their cultivation."

There are 46,000 children in Washington DC’s public schools and 50 million students in public schools nationwide. Unfortunately, our current system leaves many students’ talents and virtues undiscovered, uncultivated and unused.

It is time to get serious, get tough and transform our public schools so all children can have a quality education.

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Jackie Cushman is a freelance writer who lives in Atlanta, Georgia. Her column also runs later in the week in the Northside Neighbor.
 
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This is not accidental
The dumbing-down of our education system is not accidental. One of the stated goals of communism, read into the Congressional Records some time ago, was to take control of the education system and at least one political party in the US. That mission is firmly accomplished. When you consider the liberal slant of education, the purposeful "dumbing-down" of education, the fighting against testing standards, and the fighting against vouchers... you clearly see that the left wing, double punch vice grip control between union (NEA) and Democrats mean that it's much more about control of money and the curriculum of what is taught and how more so than quality. Kids are taught about the environment, political correctness and being "non-offensive" and being good little subjects but little about the understanding of our system of government and self reliance.

Voters today don't read the bills. They barely understand the naming of bills. They went to the polls not knowing what party was in power or some even who the Vice President was... but they were lured by catch phrases of "hope" and "change" regardless of what lack of substance was behind any of it.

http://www.howobamagotelected.com .... it's eye opening... but conservatives are the dumb ones.

if the Republicans
would continue to beat the drum for actual
education rather than self esteem and sex ed,
they may help themselves. What I mean is we are in this fix because of the dumbing down of at least two generations. And the focus of the dumbing down was primarily the American unrevised History and Civics instruction. These
generations have no clue, and have been indoctrinated. I would like to see the Congress mandate since the federal government has taken over education, more than one day
of instructin on the Constitution (and now that
the O has deemed it flawed one can only imagine what that instruction now entails.)in fact have
instructions on our history from k-12. Of course Barry Lynn and his fellow toads would have a hissy fit because our real history talks a lot about the faith of our Founders and later
leaders. When I was in school we did learn our
history and Constitution from early on, growing up in the free state of Mass at the time, not the peoples republic of Teddy; we learned the
story of the Revolution; we opened with prayer
scripture reading, pledge and the first songs we learned in second grade were hymns..now fancy that. I am probably dreaming but if
the Congressional leaders kept up a constant
drumbeat about our history and the Constitution and the necessity of our kids learning the truth
it could awaken the people as to what the left has done to our Republic...GAAAH I HATE it when I see democracy in reference to this country! But there is a method to the madness.

Goals of communism
Read into the record by a Congressman from a book written by a former Utah Police officer and hardly an expert on communism. Don't blame the fate of the US K-12 system which is one of the developed worlds worst on communism but on an unholy alliance of teachers, their unions and administrators. Public schools in the US are not unlike a Chinese steel mill--bloated, overly bureaucratic, more concerned over process--are the right forms filled out--than results and produce an inferior product.


One more thing
The testing standards part of NCLB is part of the problem. Teachers teach to the very narrow standards that the tests used to judge the performance of the school require. Social science has been almost ignored by NCLB and thus it gets very little attention and more important things like critical thinking skills and the like. NCLB was one of the greatest failures among many failures of the now thankfully FORMER President Bush.

Tea Party
It is not incorrect to label the US as a democracy--to be precise it is a democratic republic or what some call a representative democracy, but there are a number of different type of democracies under the umbrella concept of "democracy." It doesn't simply apply to direct democracies as the term was originally applied to--thus calling the US a democracy in the modern use of the word is not incorrect.

Just a couple of obersvations
First Observation- "...What was not mentioned was that his children attend Sidwell Friends, a private school..."

There is a good reason Obama's children attend Sidwell school and not the D.C schools. and the answer is in her article too-

Second Observation -"We remain sensitive to the needs of families who are not able to arrange childcare when schools must unexpectedly close and the children who depend on a healthy meal from DCPS.”

The rest of the article can pretty much go unread. It is same stuff we 've been hearing from every politician-local,state,or federal,Reoublican,Democrat,or Wacko-for 30 years.

Straddle!!!
Akagi,

When the first and second salvos struck on either side of a warship some observer HIGH up in a mast would shout "Straddle!" into his mike. That meant the gunners had found the range and the guns shooting over and the ones shoot short could now be adjusted so they'd ALL hit the target.

That was "getting the range" or "zeroing in". You just did that with the edjumacation sistem in the good old U.S.!!! I get funny looks when I mention a paltry fact of science or history around the 20 and 30-somethings at work. They are even more shocked when I tell them that this stuff was 6th grade material when I was in school.

Ever see the questions on an exam for the 8th grade at the turn of the century? Half the high schoolers today couldn't hand in a decent composition at that level. I kid you not.

BTW, did you get my cigar recommendations? If not here are some primo sticks I've sampled lately:
Ashton VSG:
Sorcerer, Tres Mystique, Wizard and Spellbound.

Padron 1964 Series:
the Churchill, Lonsdales and Coronas are out of this world.

Rocky Patel: 1992 petite corona. GOOD fast smoke for the commuter.

Arturo Fuente Opus X:
Lonsdale and Corona, true puros that won't break the budget.

Top them with some Glenfiddich 25 yr. old single malt.

-Ray
NRA Life Member
Soli Deo Gloria!!

Straddle
Ray,

I think you've hit the nail on the proverbial head! I too am from the "old school" and it pains me greatly to see the looks of incomprehension on the faces of 20 or 30 somethings today..including some who are supposed to be educating our future generations!

It's equally disturbing to see these same people misspelling simple words in the English language, and most of these are supposedly college graduates!

Yes indeed...our public education system is in shambles, and the new POTUS is supposedly a champion of that cause, yet his two daughters go to an expensive private school! I wonder if he subscribes to the time tested principle of "Lead by example."

Oh, btw..I am also a afficionado of fine cigars, and your recommendations were spot on!

I would also recommend the Partagas 8-9-8 lonsdales, Series S Chuchills and Pyramides, Punch Rare Corojo Churchills and Torpedoes, and any of Nick Perdomo or Avo Uvezian's offerings.

You might also try the Dalmore Cigar Malt, or Balvenie Double Wood with any of these fine puros.

M.

One Point to Consider
Point: The federal government has no constitutional authority to be involved in education, nor does it have the know-how. Politicians who pass "feel-good" educational reforms know little to nothing about child development and learning.

What they excel at, however, is developing a curriculum that produces gullible "sheeple" to buy into all the promises that "Nanny Government" is there to take care of everything so that the "sheeple" don't have to worry. The current governemental reforms are geared towards developing a populace that doesn't think critically about anything the government does.



Reply #9
Reply #9 (and this one) were written by Ben's wife.... I didn't realize he was logged in.

A Must Read
A former teacher from New York, John Gatto, has written several books on our education system. One of his books,"The Underground History of American Education," will forever change your view of public schooling. A main points is that the system works quite well when considering the purpose, the dumbing down of people. The entire book can be read on the following website:

http://www.johntaylorgatto.com/underground/index.htm

However, I do recommend buying the book. It will shake your views on "schooling" forever.

Julio
"One of the stated goals of communism, read into the Congressional Records some time ago, was to take control of the education system."

VERY WELL SAID. The Republicans passed the "No Child Left Behind Act" when George Bush(R) was President, Denny Hastert(R) was Speaker of the House and Trent Lott(R) was Senate Majority Leader. It's time to dump these Republican-Bolshevik Communists into the dung heap of history!

UNIONS KEEP SCHOOLS UNWORKABLE
Well,

If you want better schools, you must get better Policy.

Better Policy is not possible with the Unions Dictate Policy,

OBAMA IS IN BED WITH THE UNIONS.

THEREFORE,

FORGET IMPROVING PUBLIC EDUCATION.

PRIVATE SCHOOL IS WHERE EDUCATION THRIVES.

JUST ASK OBAMA!

ROWDY BOOTS

LET FACE FACTS ABOUT EDUCATION
I have been an educator for over 30 years.

I am teaching teachers, psychology students who get college credits and MS's and MA's in Psychology.

I am not qualified on paper to teach in a public school.

Also, consider this:

TELEVISON IS HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS AHEAD OF THE PUBLIC EDUCATION BUDGET.

TELEVISION IS WHERE MOST PEOPLE GET 85% OF THIER INFORMATION.

UH...THE PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM HAS BEEN IRRELEVENT FOR OVER 45 YEARS.

REMEMBER HOW THEY WERE GOING TO FIX IT 45 YEARS AGO?

THEY FAILED.

SOLUTION: KEEP YOUR KIDS AT HOME AND HOME SCHOOL THEM OR PUT THEM IN A PRIVATE SCHOOL.

HOMESCHOOL ASSOCIATIONS ARE ONLINE...GO TO THEM.

OBAMA HAS SOLD OUT TO THE UNIONS.

THAT MEANS TEACHERS UNIONS TOO.

DUH

ROWDY BOOTS

Adolf Hitler, Stalin, and other "rulers"
Realized that the best way to achieve their goals was to indoctrinate the young. Hitler started by banning all alternitive/religious education in Germany and to this day "alternitive" schooling is still not allowed. because it builds a parralel society.

In Tennessee there's a family who fled Germany because they were going to be jailed for homeschooling they have already been fined and jailed and fled because it was going to continue. To read about it go to HSLDA.com

If we allow the state to control/indoctrinate our kids minds with the nonsense that they're claming to be American History this country WILL become no better than Germany. Right now we spend almost 10 thousand dollars per student and we are destroying our country by allowing the Dept. Of Ed. and the NEA to control the curriculum with virtually no oversight into it.

I homeschool and still am paying to watch the loss of our kids..I fear that if this continues we'll have no proud American hertige just a mish mosh of socialistic shite.

Zapdoodat NCLB
No Child Left Behind was an attempt to hold schools accountable for their failings. While far from perfect, it was made in response to public schools' shortcomings, and is not the cause. If one of the goals of communism is to take over the education system in order to ensure ignorance among the masses, it would be counterproductive to follow the takeover with higher standards for achievement.

No, no, NO!!!!
Jackie, I'm usually in your corner, but you missed this one by a country mile. REAL education will never again be available to the bulk of American youth until the "public education" (read "government social-engineering") system is abolished entirely.

A good education does not necessitate a tony country-club environment. Look at the job the parochial schools have done even over the five or six intellectually distressed decades! And without the tax burden of warehousing our kids while they soak up historically revisionist anti-American propaganda and radical moral relativism (let alone supporting an army of redundant administrators) just think of the nifty tutors parents' groups could afford to bring into "community home-schools!" In fact, if the tax burden were dramatically reduced, just think of all the parents who'd be DELIGHTED to spend a few less overtime hours at the office each week, in order to VOLUNTEER instruction in their own areas of expertise within a community home-school format!

In this one limited sense, Hillary was right: It DOES take a village...a VOLUNTARY, freely-associated village. No one parent/caregiver has the breadth of expertise required to educate a child from toddler to teenager, but "all of us" (as each of us chooses to contribute to the "all" of his or her choice) can do the job handily without requiring a full-time commitment from any but a few highly educated professional program planners who are ALWAYS accountable to the community's vision/mission.

-- Spike (M.Ed., community home-school advocate, and proud military wife)

Erratum in Post #17
Second sentence of second paragraph should read "...over the *past* five or six..."

Mea culpa.

Parochial schools
produce much better educated students than public schools. The big difference is simple. They are not controlled by politicians and nobody has a "right" to be there. This means that unruly students that destroy teacher authority and prevent a whole class from learning anything are quickly expelled. Just by itself, this creates an atmosphere of civilization and learning. In addition, because parents must sacrifice, the students at parochial schools have parents committed to education. They support the teachers and teacher authority. A third factor is the small administration pymamid. Very little money is spent above the principal level. This means the superior education is achieved at much less expenditure per student. I am assistant teacher at a public charter school. We are supported entirely by public funds. We receive 70% of the funds per child that conventional schools in the county do. We do a better job because the funds are all spent below the principal level and because our parents are more involved. If we could expel behavior problems quickly we would do quite a bit better, but its a long time-consuming process. We cannot select our students, so we get a high proportion of students from parents whose children are doing poorly in other schools. We do an excellent job of reaching many of the kids who are merely falling through the cracks.

the key to
improvement is simple. It is parent choice. The current system is an unaccountable monopoly which de facto forces the public to attend. Vouchers would quickly reward the schools doing a good job, and there are quite a few. In addition, most superior schools systems recognize that about half the population, including some quite bright kids, are totally turned off by academics during the teens. These kids should be given trade school-type hands on training, Later, when they mature, they can be returned to the academic path if they desire. These kids lower the level of instruction for the better scholars.

tax credits, school choice AND....
Let's say kids get a guarantee of 12 years of taxpayer-paid instruction. But if they misbehave to the extent they are disruptive of the process they will have to leave the school until they are ready to rejoin the rest of the class with behavior showing they are willing to learn. In addition to providing a better learning atmosphere for those who do study, this will prevent kids from being passed along and dumped into society with a worthless diploma, which degrades the value of the diploma of those who actually applied themselves in school.
Parents of children in poor neighborhoods are just as eager for their children to do well as those in wealthy ones and would be thrilled to see the troublemakers removed from class until they are ready to do teh work.
After the parents, who are the ones responsible fo rtheir children, realize the school isn't there as a babysitting service or a proxy parent, perhaps they will insist their kids get to work on that diploma.

Tell Administration
Too many administrators nail instructors when too many students fail. Why so many "F"s? Because, when absent, students believe they should be excused from the assignment or test.

No. If I am absent, I still must grade papers. When absent from private sector work, the work piled up, and I often had to work on the weekend.

Test, study for a test! No, I can't spell. Fine, the football coach will not be able to have you participate.

Geez. I work my tail off, take work home on the weekends, plan lessons during my days off, and so many students "veg. out" claiming grammar, reading, writing are boring.


School Administration
When I was teaching, the School administrators
allowed many of the non-white kids to get away with a lot. As a consequence there were some
whites that tried to get away with the same behavior,but it didn't work for them. Several white parents questioned the administrators, but to no avail.
In the PTA meetings, there were more teachers
present than parents out of s school population
of 1100 students. Does that indicate something??

author is smoking something funny
The existing government indoctrination system needs to be replaced with a national school ;voucher system. Capitalism has shown, and we favor, competition helps everything and everyone get better. The Unions and big government have caused this education crisis and needs to be replaced.

Goes back to Horace Mann
Mann still gets accolades for being the "father of public education". He could not have cared LESS about genuine learning experiences. ALL he wanted was to raise up generation after generation of low income and immigrant children to be factory fodder and better low income workers.

Even so, at the turn of the century the worst thing you had to deal with was perhaps a student passing notes or talking out of turn. A child who got sent home walked VERY slow because he knew what awaited when his father found out.

From that humble beginning, and Mann's elitist vision, we've seen a great public education system turned into a Western copy of the Soviet and Chi-Com indoctrination systems.

Parochial schools use nuns, priests and teaching brothers wherever feasible. This also cuts the costs and the lay teachers who do work there are paid a LOT less than the worker bees in the public school system.

-Ray
NRA Life Member
Soli Deo Gloria!!

To M.F.:
Great sticks! I started with Ashton 8-9-8s myself. Trying to maintain humidity in forced air heat is no fun though. LOTS of humidifiers in the containers! If you like to take you sticks outside get a cigar minder. It's a clip that gently holds your Churchill while gripping your golf club, lawn chair or whatever like Scrooge with a shilling.

I am sorry but you are wrong
Your main premise is that there is a terrible waste of talent going on in our public school systems and that if only we could find the correct solution we would have much higher rates of high school graduation and the world would be a better place. While I understand your feelings and have shared them myself for most of my life I think you are mistaken. I would strongly suggest you read Charles Murray's latest book on the subject:

Real Education:Four Simple Truths For Bringing America's Schools back to Reality.

an excerpt:
"First among the problems he singles out is the pervasiveness of a mind-set he calls "educational romanticism."

Educational romanticism takes as realism the Lake Wobegon fantasy, the notion that all children are above average. Consequently, its advocates tell the young, in smarmy Edgar Guest fashion, that there is nothing beyond their ability if only they try hard enough.

Murray subtly points out the unintentional cruelty in this practice of encouraging children to repeatedly set themselves up for failure."

"Murray recognizes that no documentation exists which would support the current educational establishment's wishful thinking that it can significantly alter a student's low ability, whether through more money spent, revised pedagogy, or better teacher training."

Take a look and you will find that the situation is not as bleak as we might have thougth if we just can find it in ourselves to face reality.

THIS FROM AN EDUCATOR
I have not seen anyone address the issue of culture in these posts. There is a good reason why whites and Asians surpass blacks and Hispanics in education. The former two cultures place a high premium on securing an education. I say this as a teacher of minority students my entire life. Black students who excell are taunted by their peers as "acting white," and Hispanic fathers don't want their daughters to become "smarter" than they are. Hispanic students are generally more anxious to get married than they are to graduate from high school. I currently teach in a Hispanic district that has embarrassingly low graduation rates. The GOOD students are dropping out.

Until these cultural attitudes are addressed, we will continue to face these same scenarios. You've got to want to learn before it will happen.

parents and justification
As a father of 4 teens, two being stepsons...I can tell you there is a direct relation between your kids grades and how close your foot is to there butt. Parents shouldn't have kids if they don't intend to put alot of energy into them. The top 3 priorities for a child need to be stuy, study, study then the other stuff. I live in SC. Over 1 side of the bridge is one of the top hs in SC. On the other side there is a 40% graduation rate. On one side on parent teacher night the house is packed. On the other side, I was told they average 10%. On one side of the bridge the parents applaud the teachers and principals because of how many scholarships the kids get. On the other side the parents complain how awful the teachers are and how rotten the school board is. Our HSs average at least 10 pregnant girls all the time. The problem is integrity, ethics and justification. No more pregnant girls in school, parents should sign all homework as completed, teachers call parents with no signature, if it happens 3 times the kid is pulled out of regular class and put in trade school or something. America is made up of great states, great states made up of great towns and cities, which is made up of great families. If the family doesn't hold up their end of the bargain. Parents need to be exposed for not doing their share. Thats the problem. Thats the solution.

Thanks for Stating the Obvious
What is the point of this column. Society doesn't need to be convinced that education is good and important. The problem with the system isn't that people don't know education is important, it is that the system isn't functioning properly. This article would be useful if it actually proposed ideas to fix the system instead of just saying essentially we need good education.

The author misplaces focus as well. The public school system itself is not important. Educating children is. If they can be educated without a public school system, if for example each parent was given a certain sum for each child which could be spent at any school, and the public system died or were to shrink, education could well improve. Education is the goal, a well functioning public school system should not be. Focusing on the system rather than the goal is part of the problem.

Further, the public school system in some ways threatens our society and should be viewed with skepticism for the potential danger it poses to our society. The mandatory exclusion of the views of many in society, coupled with complete freedom to attack those views through the system, threatens liberty of thought in this country. Those who control the schools this generation control government the next.

Decentralization and parental autonomy, the freedom to choose the schools to which parents wish to send their children, is the way to ensure that schools strengthen our society rather than threaten it.

Transform our public schools?!!!
How?!

How do you transform a socialist bureaucracy? What are you smoking? Unless you mean transform it to a voucher system, this dysfunctional behemoth needs to be terminated, not transformed. However, doing so means replacing, not transforming the immutable failure factory that is our public education system.

Have Americans so lost faith in the effectiveness and efficiency of liberty to provide prosperity and success, that we so easily embrace an irredeemably bankrupt system as our public education system, even though so doing consigns our most precious treasure, our children, to failure and misery?

Ideally, we should get government out of the education (and all other) business(es) entirely. But that will be impossible until a critical mass of our citizens understand the moral and utilitarian superiority of freedom of choice.

Unfortunately, that will never happen as long as the failure factory continues its self-promotion, at taxpayer expense, to its captive audience of our children, as were their parents and generations before them. Sufficient numbers of them are successfully indoctrinated to believe that the status quo is the only education model imaginable.

The first of many casualties of government monopolies, such as our education system, is innovation. If the incentives of competition are removed, as they are in this instance, the necessity that is the mother of invention, is removed to the same degree.

In the late 70's
My elementary school switched from a typical school to an "environmental complex": no grades, no report cards, no goals, no classroom instruction.

Because I'd been bused across town the year before to a mostly-black school, my parents were unaware that Earhart Elementary had changed to Earhart Environmental Complex, which is, for all intents and purposes, a neighborhood daycare center.

I kid you not. "Reading hour" could be substituted by going to the cafeteria to roll newspapers for recycling. I spent "math hour" flirting with the pretty girl next to me, without consequences (other than losing a year of mathematics instruction).

I attended for one year. My parents sent me to a parochial school the next year. My family, at the time, was quite impoverished and the burden of private education was one of sacrifice for all of us. I still remember being ridiculed by kids because my clothes came from the DAV. My "winter shoes" were actually plastic bags slipped over my sneakers with rubber bands around the tops.

Point is: good parents who care about their children will remove them from public school, regardless the cost to the family. And, dare I say, at the expense of the self-esteem of the child.


Dear Jackie Cushman
I don't think you have enough information.
You are hoping a monopoly with unionized employees will be a major success.

Each highschool teacher must deal with how many individuals everyday that have individual talents, dreams, issues, background etc.
A teacher is given a curriculum which they must somehow try to get into the minds of mostly low achievers who's only thoughts involve hair, makeup and boys on one side and video games on the other. Top it off textbooks are dead, dry, and dusty. So the teacher must come to work feeling peppy and somehow make it all interesting. Which no one appreciates.

I do not agree that parents have to run the halls of the schools. Parents just have to expect great things from their children and their children should not want to disappoint their parents.
Parents should have the time to place their own input into their children and not be bogged down helping with homework until 11:00 every night.

Children should take pride in everything they are given to accomplish. They should take enough pride in themselves that they do not want to fail. They should also have the courage to ask questions. Teachers should be excited when students ask questions and not look at them as if they are stupid.

Teachers should know the difference between a student that wants to know or waste time or simply showoff their own knowledge.

Basically a child needs to be able to read, write and decipher numbers. Living books that inspire and tell the truth should be used.

Children do not go to school to be indoctrinated with secular humanism and the latest fad in cultural norms.

Children must be free to follow their interests. If they can read they can find information on their own.

There's nothing wrong with

public education it has worked perfectly! Julio in reply#1 is exactly right. By first dumbing down the teachers, or so-called educators, with Liberal touchy-feely agendas. And the new way of thinking that there is no true right or wrong that it is all in the eye of the beholder. What is really sad is that these "educators" feel that they are the "Elite!" And that the common people are to stupid to know whats good for them or their children.

I can well imagine that many of these "so-called educators" do not even believe that they themselves have been brainwashed. And feel that they are doing a great service for the country. When in fact they are doing a great service to the powers manipulating government toward the Socialist/Communist goal.

Congratulations to all you "Brilliant, Elite" de-educators! You've done your job well! A well rounded education is not needed in a Communist society. As the kids will eventually be assigned work by the government and taught how to do that single job like any good little Ant in the colony!


Calling the US "Democracy"
That is not accidental or a mis-speak. It is deliberate.

The US is a Republic. A representative republic.

There's a difference and probably 95% of public school graduates can't tell you the difference, much less recognize the differences between socialism, communism and capitalism.

Don’t you stupid people know…
that the only reason to have public schools is to enrich teachers and their Communist thug infested unions. They indeed are mostly the low IQ elite. On your dime, clueless taxpayer, they deserve to be over pampered, overpaid, (most near, and up to $107K per year in only salary in my town), over perked, over pensioned, greedy, ungrateful, public parasites living in fantasy land inside the magic kingdom you provide for them. Let’s not even think that they can’t seem to teach basic math, English and history but they sure are expert at the propaganda of tolerance, diversity, self esteem for accomplishing nothing and an endless procession of useless politically correct BS. Welcome to the Obamanation.

Public Schools are Fine
I'm in the small minority who feels nearly all our public schools are adequate. I attended some of the worst (measured by student performance) public schools in my state, and also one of the best private graduate schools in the country. Did the "elite" teachers spend more time with the students, use more creative teaching techniques, seem to care more, use more accurate textbooks, or devise better curricula? No. If anything, the "bad public school" teachers put more effort and thought into their work, and I know from experience that learning algebra from a 20 year-old threadbare book, sitting at an even older desk is hardly a hindrance.

So what was the difference? The students, period. Poor student performance is not a problem for government to solve, but a problem for families to solve. The Obama children will not succeed because they go to a fancy private school, but because they try hard to succeed as their parents expect of them. No one ever stops to wonder why the same school with an exorbitant drop out rate also manages to regularly produce future successful college graduates.

Of course, it's highly politically incorrect to blame problems on the victims, even if they are victimizing themselves.

Doesn't know her audience
ONe of the marks of a good columnist is that she knows her chosen audience. Ms. Cushman clearly doesn't know that most of today's conservatives hate and loathe public education. They want it abolished, period. Certainly they wouldn't waste their precious time involving themselves in their children's schools. They might actually come to see that parents have a tremendous role to play in education. And we wouldn't want any conservative to be exposed to all that horrible left-wing indoctrination that is believe to go on in public schools. Hey, they might be exposed to such leftist ideas as tolerance of people not like themselves, and that will never do.

FairnessMan (at 11:06am EST)...
Reading your post I could only conclude that you are quite possibly one of the stupidest people on this site...and that's really saying something. You made absolutely zero logical or factual points; however, you DID manage to sound like an uneducated fool...proof that the public school systems need to work harder at educating our population.

Shoes, IL
Yes I am STUPID! Why the hell did I break my butt earning a degree in electrical engineering and an MBA? I could have taken “education” courses that require a room temperature IQ, taught kindergarten finger painting and had it made for life. If you want logical and FACTUAL, contact any board of non education in northern NJ and get the teacher pay scales. I did. That’s a fact. So what are you, a parasite teacher or perhaps your “domestic partner” is a teacher?

Love that
Then politicians should be precise in calling the US a Representative Republic, but a pure democracy it is not and was never intended to be. A pure democracy is tyranny.

I love the "teaching to the test" argument. Answer this for me. If the teachers are "teaching to the tests" and the tests are based on the knowledge the kids are supposed to have at a particular grade level, then I'd ask any liberal to please explain the problem of "teaching to the test". I have yet to obtain any kind of answer to the question.

The NEA stands in the way of meaningful education reform and social education isn't the only problem. Since the educational system became unionized, the standards and product of the educational system in the US has suffered dramatically. If we get government and unions out of the classroom, we'll all be far better off.

Excerpt
Goal number 17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.

Amazingly, isn't this what is happening?

This non-expert on communism seems to have a handle on things very nicely and predicted this, what, 45 years ago?

Finally
Finally someone who understands what we have to do if we are serious about the eduction of our children. The solution, if we are serious, is to get more parents to put the education of their children at the top of their list of priorities and back that up by showing that it is on the top of their list of priorites, by making the necessary sacrifices to demonstrate that it is important. If we can do that, the problem with education will be solved. But if we do not do that, we can never solve the problem with education.

FairnessMan
Well, it's a typical response. You can say whatever you want, but all the MBAs in the world don't make up for poor grammar and poor-informed ideals. Yes, I insulted you for your original post, but I insulted based upon your own comments...not via conjecture or generalizations. Public school teachers throughout the country do not average $107K/year. I'm sorry, but that's VERY inaccurate.

And then you jump to wild accusations about my personal life, which has nothing at all to do with anything - it's an ignorant person's response to being criticized. But you see, here's the difference: I don't feel the need to start "defending" myself by correcting your personal attacks. The point of my original insulting post was to point out that your facts were inaccurate, your ideals were ill-informed and your grammar was pathetic. THAT is why I called you stupid. You've done nothing to dissuade that accusation, regardless of your supposed educational triumphs.

Shoes, IL
Please be specific about my poor grammar and poor informed ideas. BTW genius, the expression is "ill-informed ideas." Perhaps a liberal troll with a room temperature IQ like you can teach me something – not.

So what are your “educational triumphs?” Perhaps you struggled for a degree in basket weaving from some no name teacher’s college?

Next, please learn how to read. I did not say teachers throughout the country average $107K.

You give no facts or figures. My facts and figures are easily verified. You just rely on the personal attacks, conjecture and generalizations you accuse me throwing at you.

Now go and teach the kiddies how put a condom on a banana and go answers your domestic partner’s booty call.

God I love to pi$$ off teachers/liberals!

zapdoodoo
Once again, either you have nothing better to do all day than steal a paycheck from your employer by posting on these comment boards or you are showing your stupidity.

Nate's post is right on.

If you want to experience the real communism by true Bolsheviks, sit in on one of your children's government, social studies, and/or humanities classes. Most college professors pick up on the socialist indoctrination and repressing dissenting opinions where their primary education comrades left off!








I don't live in Washington
so I don't know how bad it was, but I see nothing wrong with closing schools when weather is really bad. Most school buses don't have seat belts, buses are MUCH harder to maneuver on icy streets than cars and our children's lives are too important to risk just to try and prove a point.

Some drivers are idiots on icy streets. It's not worth the risk. Nothing is so important that it can't wait one day.

Indiana got 11 inches of snow last week. I didn't get the message that our office was closed for the day, and I drove into work. It was really bad. I got stuck three times. It could have been a disaster if more people were out on the roads. God bless those business owners who don't risk their employees' lives just to look tough.

Several things needed for this
There are several things that are needed for schools to improve.

1. Zero tolerance for gangs. Gang members seldom have any interest in education. They sell drugs there and cause problems for the real students. When the members cause problems take immediate action including legal if needed. Too many schools ignore this.

2. Teach teachers what they are supposed to teach - and insure they teach it. Too many teachers are little more than baby-sitting services. They don't want to teach and insist it isn't their responisibility to see that the children learn.

3. Require some parental involvement. Too many parents today, particularly those on Welfare also look at school as a free baby-sitting service. One man I heard on television stated, "Why should I worry about my kids getting a good education? As soon as they start having kids of their own they can get on Welfare. They don't need an education for that."

4. Let the kids who are duds leave school. At no time in our history has school been for ALL kids. The duds are there - and generally do well when they leave and get jobs. The problem is that they interfere with the kids who do want an education. We try to insist that ALL kids get an education but when they cause problems, let them go. Some simply refuse to learn.

One More Thing
5. Teach basics instead of social issues. ALL people need to know how to read, write, math, history, and science. Social issues have no place in basic education, particularly when the social issues being taught may not agree with those of the parents. It seems that there are more social issues taught than the basics are taught.

FairnessMan
"Let’s not even think that they can’t seem to teach basic math, English and history but they sure are expert at the propaganda of tolerance, diversity, self esteem for accomplishing nothing and an endless procession of useless politically correct BS."
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This was your quote. After reading it again, do you still want me to point out the grammatical errors of the English language in your "sentence" or can you figure them out for yourself?

You made a generalized statement that teachers are unable to teach basic math, English and history when this is factually inaccurate. Yes, it's increasingly hard to teach these skills in the poorer neighborhoods and inner-cities, but that's because the better teachers are staying away from these areas. The problem needs to be approached from both sides: more parent interaction with their child's education and incentives to get the more qualified teachers helping out the inner-city and underprivelaged children.

When you throw out crap about teachers making $107K/year in salary it's just very far from the truth in the general scheme of our public education.

I just love how this thread has to do with education yet you continue to make one wrong "educated guess" about me after another. But keep throwing your off-topic stereotypical guesses out there! Assuming that I'm gay, a teacher or even a gay teacher really supports your academic credentials.

Encouraging Other Options
I'm afraid I don't see what's wrong with the young Obamas attending a private school. They can afford it and they aren't hurting anyone.
There are a lot of problems in the public school system. It's old news that kids in school today aren't learning. As a teenager myself I know that the whole environment can be really distracting - the stress of trying to be popular can keep you from pursuing your interests. One simply cannot throw a large group of young immature children together without sufficient adult supervision and expect that they will coexist peacefully. This problem isn't solved in private schools, such as the one the Obama kids attend, but just as in other sectors "private" means "getting more for your money". Private schools want money. How do they get it? By providing the best education they can. The government has no incentive to make a profit, in public schools or any other public institution.
If parents really care about their kids' education, they should earn enough to send them to a good private school or homeschool them. Sure, it will be a sacrifice of time or money, or both, but if you don't think the kids are worth it, why did you have them?

FairnessMan
I'm with you. I can remember driving by the teachers' credit union parking lot in one affluent suburb several times a week -- and the parking lot was full of BMW's, Mercedes, Audi's, and the like. Boy those teachers sure were underpaid lol.

In the area I currently live in we have a couple of counties facing severe budget shortages but guess what the school teachers and administrators think that they should still get a certain amount in raises and general school spending should be increased while the counties are laying off non-school employees, freezing salaries and hiring, etc. But see the teachers are there for the children and are too important to sacrifice like those lazy overpaid firemen and police officers.

Evil Twin...
you wrote: "If parents really care about their kids' education, they should earn enough to send them to a good private school or homeschool them. Sure, it will be a sacrifice of time or money, or both, but if you don't think the kids are worth it, why did you have them?"
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You see, this is where you're overstepping your bounds. Isn't one of Conservatists' main ideals "stay out of my business"? If so, what right do you have to question why people are having children? Yes, the vast majority of people have children so that they can raise them the best way they know how, but not everyone CAN afford to send kids to a private school. When our taxes are already paying for public schools, we just need to get a better return on that investment. You say "earn more money" as if it's just the most simple thing in the world for people to do.

Not even taking into acocunt how horrible the economy is right now, even at the best of times most people cannot afford to send their children to private school. As for homeschooling them? You forget that many families have two working parents in order to provide the basic family needs.

While I agree with you that parents need to give their "all" towards their children's educations, I think you're assuming that working people have the ability to afford private education. When they don't, it shouldn't mean that those children are just our of luck. They should still receive a very quality education. Around Chicago the children in the suburbs are receiving just that; yet, it's the kids in the inner-cities that are getting the short end of the stick. They've got parents who were not educated enough to care about their kid's educations combined with lower-quality teachers, because the "good" teachers are moving to the suburbs or private schools.

What bothers me the most,
even beyond the wasted tax dollars, teachers unions, student indoctrination, is that I am absolutely convinced that each generation seems to acquire less basic knowledge and skills than the generation that preceded it. I am frightened for this country's future. I am a member of Generation X and I do know that my peers have less basic knowledge than than their baby boomer parents. And the members of Generation Y that I work with everyday have less basic knowledge than Generation X.

This is anecdotal I know but seriously I have spent time talking to people from the WWII generation who dropped out of school before high school and they have acquired more basic knowledge and skills than my peers who all have at least a BA but most have a graduate degree of some sort. Something is very wrong with our schools.

FairnessMan & LuLu...
I have no idea where you're getting your figures from, but the $107K/year line and the parking lots full of BMWs, Mercedes and Audis are just crap!

From http://www.bls.gov/oco/ocos069.htm

"Median annual earnings of kindergarten, elementary, middle, and secondary school teachers ranged from $43,580 to $48,690 in May 2006; the lowest 10 percent earned $28,590 to $33,070; the top 10 percent earned $67,490 to $76,100. Median earnings for preschool teachers were $22,680."

And you're telling me that these salaries are how the teachers are all self-important, greedy unionized BMW drivers? *sigh*

Woefully inadequate education!!
Look at history, civics, geography and basic hard science (NOT "environmentalism")!! When I was in the SIXTH grade I was expected to be able to explain how a bill becomes a law. TRY to find a high schooler or college dunce who can do that now.

Ask them where the Crimea is or why the Ottoman Empire was a factor in 14th century European politics. THAT'S a laugh.

Half of them have no idea of the laws of conservation of energy and mass even at the TENTH grade level and that was NINTH grade stuff for me.

WHAT happened? Did we all go to sleep or lose our minds?

-Ray
NRA Life Member
Soli Deo Gloria!!

Shoes
Most middle class parents can afford private school -- they just would rather spend the money elsewhere. I went to a parochial grade school with recent immigrants legal and illegal, and with families with 5 or more children and just dad working.

The key word is sacrifice. Families did not used to have two cars as a standard, or cable TV, or cell phones, or go out to eat, etc.

It is very easy to send your child to religious private schools -- we're not suggesting that normal parents could or should try to afford the tony schools such as the Obama girs' Sidwell Friends (the would not be admitted anyway).

You can save a lot of money wearing uniforms for school and hand-me-downs. Mom's and Dad's could actually cook. You can also live in smalre older houses and share bedrooms.

What I find amusing is the middle class of today lives a lifestyle so much more luxurious than even 30 years ago and they don't seem to realize it.

Shoes
I think you are being willfully obtuse. FairnessMan told you where he found his numbers. And I specified affluent suburb. When you use the BLS' national statistics you are not giving an accurate representation of actual teacher compensation. Those numbers average teachers earnings from the smallest town in Appalachia to a LA County school teacher. I would suggest that if you wanted to honestly discuss this issue you would admit that in many locations in the country teachers are very highly paid. I would go further and suggest that 28,000 for 8.5 months of work is a darn good starting salary in a town whose inhabitants average 6 or 8 dolars an hour. Then there is the other compensation that teachers reveive pensions, health insurance, tuition subsidies, housing subsidies, heck even retail discounts.

There are jurisdictions in Illinois where teachers are averaging more than 107k a year in salary.

Then when you factor in that people that become teachers have the lowest SAT's and for those few who attend a grad school that requires education majors to take the GRE they have the lowest scores of any major, it does seem as if we are overpaying people who probably aren't employable in many other occupations.

LuLu...
I can agree with you that sacrifices need to be made in order to send your child to a private school. But these schools are expensive! When a private education start to run you $8-10K/year, that is a burden to steep for a lot of parents, not even factoring in if they have more than 1 child. 2 kids in private school can run a family $16-20K/year. The majority of families are not "squandering" this money...many of them simply don't have it.

Yes, I believe private schools should exist and thrive for the families that can afford to send their children to them. But the children with parents who cannot afford it should still receive a high quality education.

I went to a Lutheran grade school & high school so I know all about private schools. They have plenty of positives but also plenty of negatives as well. Public schools ought to be able to provide the same quality education without the religious classes.

So long as you leave the public

school monopoly on tax dollars, the public schools will always be second-rate. Competition requires education providers to get better or go out of busines.

We'll never hear the end of it
Schools, education, education and schools...talked about ad nauseum.

Call to Dunkirk
There are no “good” public schools. Some are just not as bad as others. Please take a look at the brief video “Call to Dunkirk” at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRGZLSVph3A).

Quick note for Gestell
The sarcasm was going great, until: "Hey, they might be exposed to such leftist ideas as tolerance of people not like themselves, and that will never do."

As often as you've posted here, and -- therefore -- as many times as you've read Ranger Robbie, Hal D., Chloe, Mellor, etc., you should've known you were blowing it with the last line. NO ONE who reads leftist response to conservative opinion believes that tired old self-congratulation anymore.

National Security
If education is a national security issue then the armed services should run education.

Actually a workable solution: armed services schools could be boarding school type institutions, competitive admissions, with a curriculum focused on national security needs.

Everyone else can pay for the school that fits their needs, and the children who don't need a formal education (probably most children) can learn from their parents, if their parents are willing to provide education.

Shoes IL
Nice to see LuLu and 90% of the people on TH know teachers (and cops) are the pampered parasite class, little better than welfare bums. Nothing is as vicious as a teacher when you out them for being the mostly useless, ultra left wing, fake, phony, frauds they all are. We all know they are the sworn enemies of parents/taxpayers but sadly also of the children they BS the world they care so much about.

We all know teachers are taught by the Commie thug infested unions to cry poverty, poverty, poverty while laughing all the way to the bank. Any site you can point out quoting teacher’s salaries is usually influenced by or produced by the government or teacher’s unions. They will play with the numbers until they mean nothing at all. My numbers come from my local board of education. There is no room for statistical games. If anything they are slanted low. Also note that $107K for a HALF YEAR of “work” is $214K per year in the real world. With a “work” year of 1000 hours or less, that’s $107.00 per hour plus benefits, perks, health care, fat pensions, etc. You could not get a first year Kindergarten teacher in my town for less than about $45K. Yes, the crap is on your shoes, Shoes!

TEACHERS UNIONS POUNDED BY LAWYERS
GUILTY OF STUPIDITY
Fascinating: not so smart Teachers Unions lose ground to the Trial Lawyers Association in a contest amongst Democrat special interests.

http://greensrealworld.blogspot.com/2009/02/democrat-specia l-interests-infighting.html


A libertarian view
Folks, this is why I, as a libertarian, often loathe "conservatives."

J. G. Cushman takes the typical establishment "conservative" view that we just need to tweak and "fix" our public schools, rather than take the truly bold step (advocated by libertarians) of separating state and education.

Presumably, "conservatives" want to keep the system in which the government takes children from their parents and indoctrinates them. These "conservatives" just want different ideas indoctrinated.

Libertarians advocate a free society, in which parents can choose to send their kids to Sidwell Friends, or to the local Catholic School, or to home-school them.

Liberals want to ram their tax-supported education down everyone's throat, while establishment "conservatives" want to do the same thing.

Freedom's the answer, folks.

Thomas Jefferson's vision
Wasn't the one we have currently. What Jefferson envisioned was schools very much like existed in the US until about the Baby Boom. They looked a lot like my son's Christian school. Small classes with teachers focused on teaching reading, writing, arithematic, science, literature, history, civics, government, and economics. Schools were controlled by local school boards usually composed of tax-paying parents. Yeah, some children of non-taxpayers were included in the schools, but by and large it was considered that parents who owned land or businesses in the community had a great deal more at stake in the education process than people who were just passing through. Those people's children benefited from the wisdom of those who had more to lose, but they weren't the main focus.

Today, more than half the people who voted in our last school board election were non-taxpayers, yet they were allowed to decide to tear down good older schools to build brandnew ones that will need to be replaced in 20 years. They also elected school board members who do not reflect our community interest. In fact, most of them are nothing like the parents who have students in the school and few of them do have students of their own in the schools. As a parent who cares whether my children are educated or not, I am forced to pay school taxes AND pay for tuition at a private school.

If we could return to Jefferson's vision, the public schools would have a chance, but -- you know -- the private schools are already reflecting Jefferson's vision, so why don't we reward them by freeing up my tax dollars to use them where I think they'll be best spent?

Drop out rates
Most commonly-held views on education are so wrong, it's hard to know where to begin.

J. G. Cushman sees it as a problem that "1.2 million students do not graduate high school on time."

Folks, I would be much happier if five million could not graduate high school AT ALL!

High School should be reserved for college-prep. You know--like the old days. High school students were expected to learn Greek, Latin, and math at least through algebra (and probably calculus).

A majority could not hack the difficult curriculum, and dropped out to pursue careers in other fields. This was no great shame; it showed the public schools were setting high standards.

Nowadays, we dumb down the curriculum so that everyone can graduate high school. This in effect makes the high school diploma absolutely meaningless.

High drop out rates are a GOOD THING. They show the high schools have high standards.

Would you want to be operated on by a doctor who graduated from a school that gives everyone a diploma, regardless?

Would you want to ride on an airplane in which the pilot graduated from a flight school that gives everyone a diploma?

Increasing Control for Parents 1 of 2
Control to Parents and Increasing Choice in the Private Sector

The only real solution in keeping with a small government conservative political point of view is to eliminate government funded education to parents who are not truly poor. It puts both the RESPONSIBILITY and CONTROL in the hands of the parents and would create increase demand for more private schools all over America.

The majority of those involved in private education (institutional and home) are not wealthy. Most make average incomes. Because public education is the equivalent of universal health care, it poses the same problems related to cost and quality and is inconsistent with conservative small government political philosophy. Public education is the gateway drug of socialism that leads to full blown socialism in all aspects of society.

Taxpayer funded education puts control in the wrong hands. The control should belong in the hands of the direct producers (teachers) and direct consumers (parents.) When tax dollars are involved they are collected by the government, and the government has the power and obligation to regulate and monitor their use and account to the taxpayer. Government is only good at regulating and standardizing, which is the opposite of innovation, efficiency, and customization. Children's needs are best met by the latter. Vouchers would be subject to the same problems in addition to the problems that come with spending other people’s (collective) money.

Increasing Control for Parents 2 of 2
When spending collective money (like in private health insurance) rather than spending personally earned and saved money (like in my health savings account) people tend to be more careless about its use. Parents whose kids are in the public school orchestra have far less motivation in the child’s progress than those parents paying $40 per hour for private Suzki music lessons. Parents paying for braces out of pocket are more likely to research providers who are going to do the best job for the best price compared to the parents whose insurance covers all or some of the cost. There are exceptions, but it is generally true.

Homeschoolers in free states (states with little or no regulation) enjoy the right to select whatever curriculum, methods, materials, and schedules that suit their child’s needs. Since they spend their OWN limited funds they are generally savvy consumers looking for materials with a good reputation for solid measureable results. Those not producing acceptable results can be replaced with another at any time, but having limited funds means parents will only do so when truly necessary. Private schools tend to attract consumers with a combination of good results and affordable fees. Many children in private schools live in blue collar income households. Eliminate universal coverage parents who are not poor and demand will increase dramatically.

Since the government is not involved with collecting and redistributing wealth is has no say in the matter in free states for homeschools and private schools. When government DOES get involved it creates increased expenses for staff, research, policy development, and all the cost associated with that. GOVERNMENT ALWAYS GETS BIGGER and more powerful whether it is in the public schools or with proposed vouchers and tax credits and in doing so, it drains increasing portions of the confiscated and redistributed wealth to keep itself running and growing.

Control for Parents- conculsion
The only real solution in keeping with a small government conservative political point of view is to eliminate government funded education to parents who are not truly poor. It puts both the RESPONSIBILITY and CONTROL in the hands of the parents and would create increase demand for more private schools all over America. It would also create far less need for tax dollars in public education and those dollars would be kept parents to spend at their own discretion.

Oops, soory about the double post.
My bad.

Teachers and more Choice 1
Increasing Control for Teachers and Creating More Choice

One other huge problem with public education is that it leaves teachers at the bottom of the institutional totem pole. Teachers (producers) know better than anyone exactly what needs to happen with the students in the classroom, yet with the current structure of the public schools, they are least able to control what curriculum, methods, materials, and schedules would best meet the needs of the students. That is an inexcusable position to put them in.

Innovation tends to happen when teachers are allowed to adapt to the challenges their students face. A few charter schools in the inner cities have been getting good press for doing this, but due to the one size fits all nature of traditional public schools, this is rare and it drives out teachers who are tired of being given the responsibility of teaching then shackled by being unable to do what might work better.

Some teachers come to prefer different methods than those taught in the public schools. For example, some prefer a more Trivium type Classical Method but to teach that way, they must find a private school known for that. Few exist. Teachers should have more types of schools to choose from. Many more parents would choose that kind option if it were available in their area and in their price range. If the majority of tax dollars were returned to those who earned them the teachers preferring that educational philosophy would likely be able to be hired by parents who preferred that philosophy and the free market will have done what it does best-satisfy customers and those who produce a product or service.

Teachers and more Choice 2
When a parent pays out of pocket to a teacher selected among many, the parent tends to value that teacher more than if the money had been confiscated and they were assigned to the teacher with no choice. The parent would be more motivated to see that the child was working hard. The teacher would be getting a more direct result for performance. Good ones would be more in demand and poor ones would have to find another way to pay the bills. This happens with private tutors and private music teachers all the time.

Teacher training should be left to those who have produced excellent results. Children of the poor in inner cities have different challenges than those of highly educated and motivated parents. The ones producing good results in various socioeconomic demographics should be in demand to train teachers and they should be well paid. Administrators known for providing support to teachers in the classroom with good results should be training teachers who are interested in administrative jobs.

The days of one size fits all education should be long over by now. Not every child needs the same amount of time on each subject. Not every child needs the same approach to every subject. We have to start putting children together in classrooms based on ability and motivation so teachers are no longer forced to “teach to the middle” the way our age based K-12 graded system is now.

Beyond the basics ( K-8) there should be even more choices out there. Every child’s parent should have the choice of a High School liberal arts education, but many high school students would be better served in high quality trade schools, military schools, and apprenticeships. Teachers just shouldn’t be stuck teaching kids who do not want to be there and who will not be using what is learned there.

Right, but now what
I'd like to see some recommendations from the author.

Well, what's the down-side?
If a teenager drops out, but gets government support and aid to more than make up for the financial difference his/her non-dropout cohort would have, you tell me who the real fool is.

When you stay in school, go to college, and get a white collar job, you're taxed at a rate never seen by the drop-out, who often will pay no Federal taxes the rest of his life. So, the person who finishes school actually has to pay money to the idiot in his classes who used to disrupt and fight his way through school until he decided to drop out. Nice system there.

When you constantly penalize people who do the right thing and reward dysfunctional choices, you figure out what you're going to get more of. The school system will never change as long as gov't bails out those who bail out...and as long as school can't kick out those who don't belong there. I wonder how many fights students will get in, how many teachers will get cussed out at the Obamas' school?

Vouchers equal real choice!
You were lucky that you were able to select a neighborhood that had a regular school district.
In Florida, they have played games with school assignments for years by implementing forced busing to achieve racial integration.
No one ever thought of the fact that by busing children as much as an hour away from home, it also kept many parents away from their classrooms.
Not many low income parents had the time and transportation available to allow them to volunteer and be otherwise involved in their children's school.
It did not matter if you lived in a nice neighborhood and paid higher taxes than average. If you were zoned for a particular school, you had no choice.
Of course, forced busing was never truly enforceable, it was all dependent upon income. if you had adequate income, you merely enrolled your children in private or parochial schools.
If the schools had voucher systems that allowed real choice, regardless of income, we would see real strides made in education.
Public school would have to really compete with the private schools, and the "free market" system would mean real common sense change.
But with Obama and the Dems moving closer and closer to socialism, I fear that the idea of school vouchers will not be addressed any time soon.

Writ'r-Mom...
You said: "Not many low income parents had the time and transportation available to allow them to volunteer and be otherwise involved in their children's school."
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And while on the surface a voucher program seems like it would work, you need to take into account the exact statement that you just made above. People seem to think that with a voucher program a low income family can just send their kid to a better school across the other side of the city. But as you mentioned, these families wouldn't even have a way to transport their child to and from a school on the other side of the city. Public transportation?? For a 7-year old? I don't think so. And driving them to and from school when both parents have a job and cannot afford the time to make that drive? IT sounds great, but the whole idea of sending your child to a school outside your local district, without a school busing program, simply isn't feasible for these families.

I wish I knew what the answer was...but I also with that people would get off their ideological high-horses while they continue to think that they DO know what the right answer is.

My own thought is that we need more incentives for good teachers to teach at some of the under-privelaged schools. Maybe if they taught for 3 years at an inner-city school, the gov't would pay for their student loans?? After 3 years some may leave, but you'd probably have quite a few who made real progress with some students and stayed...and the more who stay would make the school a better learning facility and the education would be greater. Better teachers would encourage more family involvement in the child's education. No, not all of them, but it has to start somewhere...

NO More freedom!

Democrat controlled states are moving quickly to help Obama's march to Socialism:

Oregon is already a socialist state:

The end of online charter schools? (in Oregon)
Senate bill threatens future of Oregon's largest charter school
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