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Friday, March 14, 2008
Diana West :: Townhall.com Columnist
Middle East 'Bright Side' Blinding Us To Costly U.S. Reality
by Diana West
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As a reasonably optimistic person, I try to look on the bright side whenever possible -- unless bright-side facts are completely blotted out by bleak ones.

Example: In a recent e-mail blast, former Republican senator Rick Santorum urged readers to be heartened by Middle East developments that may have been obscured by bad news elsewhere. There was even good news, he wrote, coming out of Iran. To wit:

"A new poll in Iran suggests that Iranians want more democracy and less theocracy, including the power to elect their Supreme Leader," Santorum wrote, referring to recent findings from the polling group Terror Free Tomorrow. "Three-quarters also wished for normal relations and trade with the U.S."

Gee, that sounds swell -- so long as you don't read the rest of the poll results. These include the finding that roughly six in 10 Iranians support Iran's military and financial assistance for Hezbollah, Shiite militias in Iraq and assorted Palestinian terror groups. The good news (I guess) that Iranians want to elect their Supreme Leader directly is overridden by the bad news that they will probably elect someone who supports global jihad. This makes it tough to buy into Santorum's happy-dappy assessment.

Similarly, consider the reaction to Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's recent trip to Iraq. Conservatives seem to agree -- I say "seem" because few pundits have actually ventured an opinion on this momentous visit (in itself more than passing strange) -- that it was a "debacle" for Iran, as the headline of Amir Taheri's New York Post piece called it.

Huh? In last week's column, I called the visit a Mesopotamian slap across the American face -- a symbolic outrage, at least, to the U.S. troops who continue to be killed and maimed by Iran in Iraq.

But no. According to my fellow conservatives, the visit was a Good Thing. Far from catching Iraq two-timing with a barbaric rival of the United States, it rather demonstrated, as Taheri put it in his oft-cited column, "the limits" of Iran's influence in Iraq.

This argument rests on two main points. First, there was the absence of Iraqi crowds cheering for Ahmadinejad, and the presence of protestors in Iraqi cities -- largely, but not exclusively, in Sunni enclaves, which are unsurprisingly hostile to the Iranian Shiite president. (No protest was very large -- infinitesimal next to the 100,000-plus Iraqis who in 2006 demonstrated in support of Iranian proxy Hezbollah.) The other main point concerns Ahmadinejad's failure to arrange face-time with the Grand Ayatollah Al Sistani, the leading Shiite in Iraq.

The first point might be more telling if Iraq were not, as we all surely know by now, a democracy. It was Iraq's democratically elected leaders -- including the Kurdish president and Shiite prime minister -- who welcomed the genocidal terror master with fanfare, regardless of whether some Iraqis took to the streets (or not). For years now, these same elected leaders have been effectively intertwining Iraq's economy with Iran's to the point where Radio Free Liberty analyst Kathleen Ridolfo recently noted that "observers say Iraq is becoming economically, if not politically, subordinate to Iran." Little wonder, then, that the Iraqi government put out the red carpet for the Thug of Tehran.

This bilateral relationship -- the energy accords, export market (Iraq is Iran's largest), oil trade, cooperation in education, customs, insurance, transportation, industrial projects, tourism, Iran's billion-dollar loan (interest free), and, to cap it off, the joint statement condemning Israel for taking action in Gaza to stop Hamas rockets -- presents a conflict as the U.S. combats the very terrorism Iran exports. For example, last year, the U.S. Treasury blacklisted Iran's Bank Melli for its involvement in terrorism and the pursuit of nuclear weaponry. Last year, Ridolfo reported, Bank Melli opened a branch in Baghdad. (No word on whether Ahmadinejad opened an account during his visit.)

As for Point No. 2, who can claim to know the inside skinny on the Sistani meeting? One possibility, reported by Stratfor.com, was that domestic Iranian opposition -- not Sistanian opposition -- might have been a factor. Perhaps more to the point is the fact that Sistani, who retains Iranian citizenship, has met with every other Iranian government officials to visit Iraq before Ahmadinejad. And that includes Iranian Foreign Minister Manouchehr Mottaki, national security official Ali Larijani and, shortly before Ahmadinejad arrived, Tehran Mayor Mohammed-Baqer Qalibaf. Sounds to me as if Iran is too close to Iraq for U.S. comfort.

I try to look on the bright side -- really. Just not when the brightness is blinding.

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Diana West is a contributing columnist for Townhall.com and author of the new book, The Death of the Grown-up: How America's Arrested Development Is Bringing Down Western Civilization.
 
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Iran
On January 22, 2001 oil was $22 a barrel, now it's about $110 a barrel.

Any idea where Iran gets all of its money to pursue its nuclear ambitions?



Bush & Rice foreign policy
sink the US dollar and bankrupt those terrorist regimes

UN Resolutions against Israel
Diana,
UN resolution#106 is the latest slap in the face of Israel by civilized world. The list of UN resolutions that Israel has not complied with is larger than what Iraq had prior to "coalition of the willing" illegal invasion. Note that she has also illegally developed nuclear weapons. Israel's, defiance goes back to its very beginnings. The number of resolutions criticizing Israel is unmatched by the record of any other nation as Israel stands in violation of more UN resolutions than ANY OTHER NATION ON EARTH.














Islam and Democracy
The problems with Islam will never be solved by democracy. Since 911, Muslims have killed civilians of every race and creed in Indonesia, France, Thailand, Sudan, England, India, Russia, England, Sierra Leone, Netherlands, Israel, and so many other countries.

And if Muslims imposed Sharia law on the entire planet, they would simply start killing each other, as they are doing in Iraq, Iran, Pakistan, Jordan, Egypt, Somalia, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Kenya, Afghanistan, Ethiopia, etc.

The problem is values. Muslims are hateful, resentful, envious, ignorant, intolerant, and lazy. They produce nothing but death and misery.

We need to destroy their will to fight. That, sadly, is the only path to peace.

Iran's Mullahs are Ingrates!
I have read where Iranian youth are less dogmatic and more open to Western ideas than is the ruling elite.

I do agree with Boutte that Iran's ruling elite, though Shia fundamentalists, are not suicidal...altho some individual Shias and Sunnis are. And Ahmadinejad does not call the shots in Iran. The ruling Mullahs do. And the ruling Mullahs favor self-preservation over self-immolation.

It is also true that in the aftermath of 9/11, Iran did try to help us in routing the Taliban.

Of course, Bush was too clueless to take advantage of that, and the enmity between Iran and the Taliban.

No surprise there.

In my modest opinion, given the Western orientation among most Iranian students(a far cry from 1979!!!!)we should seek better relations with its youth. Use the internet and satellite television to expose them to Western ideas.

Sunni states do fear a resurgent Iran, and will make accommodations with the Shia state as we withdraw from Iraq in the coming months and years.

But just who caused this resurgent Iran in the first place?

G.W. Bush, by invading Iraq, removing Iran's dreaded foe(Saddam)...resulting in an elected Shia theocracy in Iraq to work with a Shia Iran in implementing a greater Shia revival throughout the Muslim world

Iran's Mullahs ought to at least send Bush a heartfelt "Thank You" card.

But they won't. They are such ingrates!

Iraqis Not Making “Sufficient Progress”


NICE SPIN!

HP-With a Senate appearance looming to explain the success of President Bush’s surge in Iraq, Gen. David Petreaus has offered his starkest commentary yet on the state of Iraq reconciliation, reports the Washington Post:

Petraeus, who is preparing to testify to Congress next month on the Iraq war, said in an interview that “no one” in the U.S. and Iraqi governments “feels that there has been sufficient progress by any means in the area of national reconciliation,” or in the provision of basic public services.

The general’s comments appeared to be his sternest to date on Iraqis’ failure to achieve political reconciliation. In February, following the passage of laws on the budget, provincial elections and an amnesty for certain detainees, Petraeus was more encouraging. “The passage of the three laws today showed that the Iraqi leaders are now taking advantage of the opportunity that coalition and Iraqi troopers fought so hard to provide,” he said at the time.

READ MORE

http://controlcongress.com/uncategorized/david-petraeus-ira qis-not-making-sufficient-progress

Bitter Fruit
The war Bush wanted, as he said, is not the one he got. So, we're trapped in a quagmire in Iraq, and the hopes the administration at one time had for that shining secular democracy have long since been abandoned. We now call our hopes for Iraq "realistic", which is another way of saying we'll take whatever we can get as long as the country can be somewhat stabilized. Bush, of course, must maintain his position that it well pay off in the long run, if only because any other comment would be a sign that whereas our forces cannot be defeated, the political battle is not one they can either fight or win. The Iraqi's, somehow, must do that themselves, and whatever they come up with is what we will have to live with. Already, of course, we see the clear outline of the future, as they firmly support Hezbollah, Hamas and the Palestinians, while drawing ever more closely to Iran.

In the interim, whether one liked Fallon or not, he did put one issue clearly on the table, and that was that as long as we are tied down in Iraq, we cannot provide the forces to Afghanistan that it needs, nor can we initiate any other action that could require ground forces. As this long war goes forward, we are also left with the rather bitter knowledge that Bin Laden lives, is secure in his hideouts, and the change in power in Pakistan makes it almost certain that he will die of old age long before we are able to capture him. And, in Afghanistan, drug sales and use are rising, and our lack of forces increasingly enables the Taliban and Warlords to assert ever more control over territories. In turn, the President of that country is increasingly bitter and distant due to his perception that our focus on Iraq denied him the ability to build a future in his country for it's people - and that, he believes, will come back to haunt us.

Islam and Democracy
To Rugged Individualist:
You need to do some research and read a little bit (Tabloids don't count) before going on your ignorant rampage. Please try naming a single Muslim country that has invaded a Western country in last two hundred years. Good luck!

It IS good news
"The good news (I guess) that Iranians want to elect their Supreme Leader directly is overridden by the bad news that they will probably elect someone who supports global jihad. This makes it tough to buy into Santorum's happy-dappy assessment."

If they do so, it will force their hand... flush the cockroaches into the light, so to speak, and then we can stomp them.

This nation-building, Islamic Democracy (oxymoron) self-delusion must stop if we are to win the war.

Ann Coulter put it best:

"We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity."

That's easy "Truth"
"Please try naming a single Muslim country that has invaded a Western country in last two hundred years."

Saudi Arabia, Iran, Iraq, Syria, Jordan, Kuwait, etc etc... have all invaded Great Britain.

Like communism, Islam respects no borders.

Shi'ite Arabs and Ahmadinejad
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Missing in this column (as well as in the MSM as a whole) is the *reason* for "the absence of Iraqi crowds cheering for Ahmadinejad" when he visited Iran's close neighbor.

Remember that Farsi-speaking Shi'ite Persions make up only 51% of Iran's population, the rest being fragmented into many more or less brutally suppressed minority groups, including (especially in the oil-producing province of Khuzistan, bordering Iraq) Shi'ia Arabs.

The majority Shi'ite Arab population of southern and central Iraq have much in common with the Iranian Arabs of Khuzistan, including an ancient, down-to-the-bone hatred of Persians.

And as long as Iran extends the age-old Persian policy of keeping their domestic population of Shi'ite Arabs crushed beneath the heel of their military and paramilitary security forces, there's little doubt that the majority of Iraqi Arabs - Shi'ite and Sunni alike - will never look upon Ahmadinejad and his ilk as anything but deadly enemies.


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"Iran begins the 21st century as a profoundly divided country. One of the key divisions is age. Most Iranians under the age of 40 have no truck with the ruling mullahs. To describe the clerics' economy as 'stagnant' is a multi-decade understatement. Iran's young don't remember the Shah, and Khomeini's revolution is ancient history. The Council of Guardians' brutality is current news, however. The cultural straightjacket of clerical puritanism chafes, and the mullahs' hypocrisy and corruption are self-evident.

"In some ways, the thief in religious robes is even more repugnant than the usual greased-palm bureaucrat. Democracy may not be a panacea, but Iranian youth see it as a source of political and economic opportunity. Now, 'the Arabs' (in this case, the Iraqis, considered by many Iranians to be cultural inferiors) are building a new society, while Iran continues to rot."

-- Austin Bay




Knowledge is Power
JDW:
I am sorry to say you need a history lesson also. Our horizon is not the end of the world. I can suggest a few books if you like, for example: “The Great War For Civilisation” by Robert Fisk and “Why Do You Kill, Zaid “ by Dr. Jurgen Todenhofer. Or you can remain ignorant by believing what Ann Coulter or Diana West write in their 'blogs'. Choice is yours!

ME oil
Until we start getting rational about developing our own domestic oil resources, and ween ourselves from dependence on ME markets, we will never have the economic leverage necessary to do politically what we must now do militarily.

It's the same principle that applies to foreign aid: note how the biggest recipients of our aid give us the the biggest finger in places like the United Nations. I believe our aid should be directly tied to how their governments support us. Why should we be consumed with guilt and try to buy their friendships - it has never worked. As a matter of fact, it simply gets us more hostility because they realize that's the way to get more aid.

Have you ever seen the Soviets give to nations that didn't reciprocate with dog like devotion? And usually their aid was in the form of weapons - and they got plenty of access in return.

The rule should be: If you want our aid, you come with hat in and ask to be our friend - and show it with support. Otherwise, beat it.

Same thing with oil: you won't hold us hostage to your oil markets - we have our own supplies.

Of course, all of this is anti-liberal thinking - and rational as opposed to their stupidity.

Thoughts
As I read these comments I'm often reminded that the issue isn't so much the ancient hatred and divisions in the Middle East, it is equally the ancient hatreds and divisions between Islam and the West. Even though the various sects and tribes that make up the Middle East may be ancient enemies within the region, the issue becomes who do they hate or distrust more, the West or each other? The Shia's in Iraq may have ancient grudges against the Persians, yet they have elected clerical leadership that is allied in many fundamental ways with the clerics in Iran. Those clerics, and the political parties that they control, mistrust and dislike the West and all it represents more than they dislike or mistrust the Persians. By adopting the Koran as the basis for civil law, the Iraqi's have codified a system that ensures that justice is not even-handed. It is not merely that women, Christians, Jews and other sects are treated as second class citizens, but that the ballot box is used to reinforce the power of the majority over the minority as the voting population votes first for it's Sect, not for democracy.

The West, in turn, has been confronted for a thousand years with the issue of what its response should be. As long as religion is the primary determinate of power, then, the very act of eliminating dicators guarantees only that we are substituting one form of tyranny for another. Under dictators, there are few political rights, but minority sects, christians, woman and the like often have more civil rights than is the case under Sectarian states. Hence, the 1.5 million Chaldean Christians and other minority Sects in Iraq were protected, whereas now they are being decimated as no one will protect them.

The certain reality of invading and eliminating dictators is that we will endanger the minority sects, as well as women. The end result is that you can kill the dictator, but do you then kill the clerics?

Iraq – Five Years and Reflections
Five years later. An interesting set of reflections on the Iraq War and the aftermath by Bremmer, Perle and others. Well worth the read at http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/16/opinion/16intro.html .

The legacy of this invasion will certainly need to be addressed by Bush et al as history begins to write about the reasons for the invasion and attempts at nation-building. How will America approach future wars with our understanding of the hundreds of billions in cost and thousands of lives lost versus the threat posed by any nation-state or individual?

An interesting economics question arises. Which is less costly (in dollars, lives, international diplomacy and leadership, etc.); invasion and occupation or homeland security and the occasional terrorist attempt on the homeland?
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