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Tuesday, May 19, 2009
David Limbaugh :: Townhall.com Columnist
Abortion Doublespeak is Part of Pattern
by David Limbaugh
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With due respect to the millions who adore President Barack Obama, I just don't understand what causes people to hear only his lofty rhetoric and appeals for unity while turning a deaf ear to his polarizing language and actions, for example, on the subject of abortion.

In his book "The Audacity of Hope," he seemed determined to address every issue from the perspective of achieving some kind of common ground. We'll give a little bit of this to liberals and a little bit of that to conservatives and all live happily ever after.

I'm sorry, but I believe Obama calculatingly employs this approach mainly as a smoke screen to hide his real agenda, which resides anywhere but on common ground. He specializes in paying superficial respect to his opponents' arguments while proceeding to bury them. The examples are endless.

He calls forced union membership "free choice." He masquerades as a fiscal disciplinarian while authoring nationally bankrupting budgets in perpetuity.

He endorses capitalism as a superior economic system while undermining it with other words and actions. He condemns it as "unfair" and decries achievers as "selfish" and "greedy." He's set on restructuring our economy away from the free market and toward government control, from taking over private businesses to setting executive salaries to subsidizing mortgages to nationalizing health care. But he knows better than to condemn capitalism outright, because if he did, the American people finally would wise up to his endgame.

He tells us his decision to continue using military tribunals to adjudicate terrorists is not a flip-flop because he has put new protections in place. This will fool the uninitiated, but experts, such as Andy McCarthy, have shown these changes are merely cosmetic, designed to provide Obama political cover to conceal his flagrant reversal. And they talked about President George W. Bush's unwillingness to admit his mistakes!

In his speech at the University of Notre Dame, Obama said he doesn't believe people should demonize those holding opposing views and that each group can "make its case to the public with passion and conviction … without reducing those with differing views to caricature." But is that the spirit he and his colleagues exhibited at the White House Correspondents' Association dinner? Is that the spirit he demonstrated on the White House Web site when he "caricatured" all pro-lifers as "right-wing ideologues who want to take away a woman's right to choose"?

Yes, he said he changed that language on the Web site, but he also said he had not changed his position. That is where his heart is; that is what he believes. He certainly changes his outward language when necessary to be less incendiary and appear less extreme, but there is no evidence he's changed his convictions regarding the people who disagree with him on this issue -- some 51 percent, by the way, according to the most recent poll.

Indeed, I think his duplicity is most pronounced on the issue of abortion. On the one hand, he champions a mother's right to destroy her baby in the womb, presumably believing it is not a human life. But on the other, he says the decision of whether to abort has both moral and spiritual dimensions. But if the unborn is not a human life, what moral or spiritual components are involved?

Truth be told, it's hard to escape the conclusion that Obama, like other extreme pro-abortion advocates, doesn't care much whether the unborn is a human life, because he has strongly endorsed partial-birth abortion, which occurs at a stage at which even the most morally darkened soul couldn't deny the baby is fully human. And he argued passionately against Illinois legislation that would have provided for medical protection to babies already born as a result of failed abortions.

He says he wants to "honor the conscience of those who disagree with abortion," yet he reportedly intends to reverse a Bush regulation to protect health care professionals who refuse, as a matter of conscience, to perform abortions.

He says he wants to work together to reduce abortions but has signed an executive order restoring funding for overseas abortion providers, which will necessarily increase abortions. So will his appointing judges who will uphold Roe v. Wade and continue preventing states from democratically deciding this issue. Neither act is a demonstration of respect for the opposing view or an avenue toward common ground.

The only ground Obama will join us on is the real estate on which he is standing, firmly and immovably, especially on abortion. He understands that ultimately there can be no common ground about the life of a baby. Those purporting to lobby for it are demanding that we turn the wisdom of Solomon on its head and split the baby in half -- literally.

Obama won't talk straight about the horrors of abortion -- or most of the rest of his agenda -- because if exposed to the disinfecting light of day, it would be stopped dead in its tracks.

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Waiting
For Ranger'sIQ's-29 to make his usual inane, insane, idiotic comments about the Limbaughs.

Should I be scared
because President Obama knows what he is doing or should I be scared because he doesn't know what he is doing?



Perfect Summation
Exactly David! My initial reaction was the same as yours. Pres. Obama says things that sound good - or less incendiary as you put it - and then caricatures his opposition and tries to destroy them.

Anyone who can support partial birth abortion really has to look in the mirror and see if they like what they see. I challenge anyone who does support PBA to actually see one and then tell us it is okay.

SFA1973

Yes, where's Wobbie?

I want to hear his explanation about all of Obama's reversals on campaign promises and Biden's 5 deferrments (just like Cheney).

And, also, I can't wait to hear his whole inane opinions on abortion. I had a lengthy debate with him the other day. He actually wrote that "if a fetus is born in the 2nd trimester and survives, it is still a fetus" ...

Has anyone ever heard of an 18 year-old fetus with a driver's license?

LOL

Nope, I haven't St. Denis
But I do know of a roughly 45 year old ANUS who THINKS he knows it all.

Limbaugh
If you were smart, you would leave the Notre Dame speech alone. It was a huge success.

There are more people than not who do not say
"it is my way or the highway." That is one of
the reasons why it was a success.

Tammy, if YOU were smart
Which we know you're not, you'd stay off of Conservative sites where the intelligence level is MILES above your head.

SHUT UP! THERE IS NO ARGUMENT
Murder for the convenience of the murderer must be couched in sweet words and phrases for the murderers to live with themselves.
Pro choice, fetus, right of a woman to dominion, control over her body and other such tripe are such masks that they disgust sane, rational people of any worthy moral values, any concern for humanity.
The woman, disgustingly often the same one several times, unwanted pregnancy after unwanted pregnancy, made her decision when she spread her legs for the baby to be conceived by some man with which she did not want to have a baby at that point in time of her murderess life.
There is absolutely no excuse for the murder of 50M babies in the U.S. alone in the 36 years since Roe v. Wade, driven by a whacky, ugly Jewess who is now dying a painful death from cancer.
Six million Jews were murdered during the WWII Holocaust. The murder of 50M babies is a HOLOCAUST of hate 8x that of WWII.
Now Obama, one who might have been aborted by an unwed, teen mother knocked up by some unknown black man much older than her, Obama the father of two precious girls, stands in his new Catholic recognition gown, before college students faculty, staff, parents, grandparents, family, and says we need to talk more, understand each other more, blah, blah, blah - after he stood as an IL legislator for putting out babies of failed abortions to die without medical care, said it was above his pay grade.

TOTALLY DISGUSTING. OBAMA NEEDS TO JUST SHUT UP; LIMIT HIS DEALING TO MATTERS AT HIS PAY GRADE AS AN ACORN COMMUNITY ACTIVIST AGITATOR.

HE HAS NOTHING WORTH LISTENING TO, TO SAY ABOUT THE MURDER OF BABIES AND NOT MUCH ELSE EITHER.

Primitive Fertility Rights
The government is in control of the women and children in the village.

Some of the villagers use their booty as a fund raising device.

If a brood mare becomes pregnant an abortion will get that brood mare back in heat quicker.

This is how the money is redistributed in the village.

This is how the dead beat dads are made.

Taking the money that should have gone to the dead beat dad’s women and children.

In the village everyone is putting their hand in someone else’s pocket.

Crime and vice makes the villagers poor, nothing will grow, the soil is depleted and in need of fertilizer($) your investment dollars are needed.

Child sacrifice won’t make the crops grow but it will keep the brood mares in heat.

The seeds of destruction are sown by carless men tossing their seeds among the thorns and depleted soil.

It takes a lot of bull fertilizer to pull the wool over the eyes of the sheeple.

A Shyster as CIC
Let's get real: President Obama is just a lawyer, no more ethical than John Edwards. He has no spiritual grounding at all. For him the abortion debate is just the balancing of issues held by two classes of people.

In effect, he is a shyster at the highest level of government. His actions and views reflect a Marxist, atheistic view of the world, not a Christian view.

He is the Anti-Christ in the 21st Century in America. A mere mortal, an orphan abandoned by his parents who thinks he can remake the world in the image of Karl Marx and Lenin.

Of course, coercion and repression are just a few years away.

Onward Christian soldiers!

I don't understand
why we are still debating this issue in this country after more than 35 years. medical technology (if one doesn't want to believe the Bible) has provided us with proof that an unborn child IS AN UNBORN CHILD. The issue is not about choice. Its about population control and votes from the ignoramuses who still can't see the obvious.

Just look at the pictures of unborn children that have been aborted. Google it, you morons, who still cling to your liberal ideas. If you still can't admit its a human, then get a new pair of glasses or you were mislabeled as a regular ed student in the public education system. You should have been receiving special services.

The old slogan "Make abortion safe and legal" says "We care about the mother."
Well I don't. if you are going to kill, do it like most murderers--late at night, in a back alley somewhere and accept the fact that you just might be killed also.

We should not be ashamed of thinking this way. We have allowed pro abortion advocates to humiliate us and silence us. Thats enough. They need to see the pictures. If that doesn't convince them, then they have a hidden agenda, like the politicians.


Mr. Limbaugh is wrong
Mr. Limbaugh states that "partial-birth abortion ... occurs at a stage at which even the most morally darkened soul couldn't deny the baby is fully human." Given that statement, it seems Mr. Limbaugh has forgotten about Peter Singer and his ilk. You know, the guy who believes that killing a 6-month-old is ethically acceptable because it's not really human yet? There are some sick, twisted people out there who refuse to see the humanity in others for various and sundry reasons. Where do you think we get mass murderers, serial killers, and pro abortionists from, anyway?

"TWO FACES HAVE I"
As a senator, barry VOTED THREE TIMES 'Against' the Born-Alive Infant Protection Act.

THEN:

At Notre Dame, barry stated that it took years for our Nation to "fully realize' the "CIVAL RIGHTS for ALL of GOD'S CHILDREN".

Obviously, barry has no intention of ever 'fully realizing' a Born- Alive Baby is a Child of GOD, at least not barrys GOD.


GO PIRATE ROB-THANKS! READ THIS AGAIN!
Primitive Fertility Rights
The government is in control of the women and children in the village.

Some of the villagers use their booty as a fund raising device.

If a brood mare becomes pregnant an abortion will get that brood mare back in heat quicker.

This is how the money is redistributed in the village.

This is how the dead beat dads are made.

Taking the money that should have gone to the dead beat dad’s women and children.

In the village everyone is putting their hand in someone else’s pocket.

Crime and vice makes the villagers poor, nothing will grow, the soil is depleted and in need of fertilizer($) your investment dollars are needed.

Child sacrifice won’t make the crops grow but it will keep the brood mares in heat.

The seeds of destruction are sown by carless men tossing their seeds among the thorns and depleted soil.

It takes a lot of bull fertilizer to pull the wool over the eyes of the sheeple

B.O. and Abortion


I think that B.O. is very lucky his mother did
not believe in Abortion~

Does he think his birth was her mistake~

Obama's Abortion Doublespeak
When life begins is "above my paygrade", he does not want his darling daughters "punished with a baby", and he supports any form of abortion.

His comments at ND were more BS from the master; he did not mean a word of them.

If for no other reasons than his statements and positions on abortion, this man is a monster.

Obama's Abortion Doublespeak
When life begins is "above my paygrade", he does not want his darling daughters "punished with a baby", and he supports any form of abortion.

His comments at ND were more BS from the master; he did not mean a word of them.

If for no other reasons than his statements and positions on abortion, this man is a monster.

vizier
Maybe it's the engineer in me, but yes I feel more and more that science and technology are making the abortionist's position increasingly untenable.

For example, I had the opportunity to see a 4-D ultrasound a little over a year ago...I defy anyone to have that experience and say with a straight face "it's not a baby."

We've come full circle from the days of Galileo, when the higher-ups of the Church refused to believe his evidence even when they saw the moons of Jupiter through his telescope with their own eyes. Except now it's not the Catholic Church, it's the high priests of Planned Parenthood.

Speaking of which, how come we seldom hear about the racist foundations of THAT organization? Margaret Sanger would have fit in very well with Hitler, Goebbels and that crowd.

The Oval Office
The Oval Office has now become the Offal Office!

I don't know what it is that occupies that space, but I do know it isn't human.

Wake from your apathy, America, lest you wake too late and find all your freedoms have evaporated in a cloud of leftist rhetoric. The evidence is presented to you every day, each time oBUMa opens his mouth he tells you, in his arrogance, what he is going to do. You can ignore the clear messages, but you do so at your extreme peril.

Awaken and make your voices heard... while you still have the opportunity.

Abortion.
It is an issue custom made for tyrants.

THE ANTI LIBERAL ZONE
RIPS INTO COMRADE MAOBAMA!

(Click on my handle to check it out)

Also UP TODAY,

Liberals are MISERABLE creatures and what we KNEW is now backed by science!

"He [Obozo] says...

he wants to work together to reduce abortions but..."

Yes "BUT!"

It takes just a modicum of critical-analytical thinking and intellect to see that when Obozo says "work together" he really means, "work together doing it MY WAY!"

Remember "I won?"



Show Abortion Pictures
Why don't we show people the pictures of abortion. They are truly horrifying. We successfully condemned The Holocost by showing photographic evidence. We ended the Vietnam War with horrible pictures of burned out villages. Let's get the awful abortion pictures on billboards, TV and in print. The Center for Bio-Ethical Reform with its AbortionNO.org website does just this. But we need more groups doing it. I believe it would really show abortion for the slasher movie act it is and help close it down. American society will also have to be prepared to receive the babies that will be born as a result It will cost something but those children will grow up and pay taxes when we are old. If we are going to be quasi-Socialist we will need the next generations to pick up the tab.

Friends Of Obama! [FOO]
A Paddy Whack© of "What Kind of Fool Am I?' A song made famous by Sammy Davis Jr. and others. I think it was written by Anthony Newly for Stop the World I Want to Get Off, but didn't see it on the web today.

What Kind of FOO am I?
Obama, tell me 'Gov'
It seems that you've become the ONE
What have I been thinking of!?
What Kind of skull is this?
An empty Shell!
I'm in your Spell
And soon I'll need a padded cell!

What kind of Prez is this?
Who lies with every Speech
His teleprompter-eze, I can't believe
His Over-Reach!
Why can't I see the man
The way Rush Limbaugh Can?
And maybe then I'll know
What kind of FOO I am!

What kind of clown is he?
What does he claim to be?
Why can't we cast away this man Today
And Just Impeach?
Why can't I see this man
The way Rush Limbaugh can!
And maybe then I'll know
What kind of FOO I am!

Order it NOW
Mrs. Paddy's Political Parodies, A Tea Party Songbook for the New Revolution

On SALE NOW through AuthorHouse or at your favorite online retailer or local bookstore.


Mrs Paddy
You chased your dream and CAUGHT IT! A nice summation to my article today on THE ANTI LIBERAL ZONE!


IF YOU LIVE
near NYC, time to move. The Stooge-in-Chief is working to make sure that you and yours get french fried by the Islamofascists!

Funny how Barry the Muslim kisses the hand of King Faud the Muslim and then bends over for him.

neat trick huh libs?

THIS JUST IN
NEW YORK — New York Times columnist Maureen Dowd has admitted to using a paragraph virtually word-for-word from a prominent liberal blogger without attribution.

Another jayson blair on the left!

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,520467,00.html

First she denied it and then admitted it. Typical libstain.

OBAMA 's speech at Notre Dame
More upset with Notre Dame for becoming what OBAMA is. One Notre Dame parent said they are putting a "social justice, common good, peace"
building up on campus. So in his speech he tells the graduates to payback society. Not to go out and seek their dreams and fortunes using God-given talents. They should feel guilty for working so hard to earn a diploma. They should feel guilty that their parents sacrificed in order that their own child should succeed. It would be "greedy" of them to marry and support a family and choose a rewarding career. NO! They should take care of the poor instead. We should give all of our time and money to the government so the government can make sure that we are all equally successful. Forget striving for one's own family and loved ones, it's all about the government.

Mr. Slick MT Suit

Obama. The Bill Clinton for the 2000's! Seems like it.

When it comes to abortion, however, he stands alone. No president has ever supported abortion AT EVERY STAGE more than Obama.
................................................................................................

SOME GOOD NEWS: The Tomahawk Chop Gal, Nancy Pelosi, is heading toward oblivion. Awww yes. Too sweet for words. More good news coming in 2010, I believe. And for the sake of the innocent, I pray for even better news in 2012.

Notre Dame
He always was a fraud, why is anyone surprised.

If those who voted for this man would just open their ears and minds maybe they could actually understand what he isn't saying, they mostly just look at how "cool" he is. A rock star. This is the mentality level the country is dealing with. God Bless teachers for what they have created, a dumb down society.

No Doublespeak Here
This blogger is one of the most insightful on the internet. We could all learn from him on this subject. He puts liberals in their place. http://theblacksphere.blogspot.com/2009/05/notre-dang-ange ls-and-demons.html

This is truly a MUST read!

Modern Day Siren
Like the Sirens of mythology, Obama seduces his listeners with words. He plays to his audience. He uses the words moral and spiritual regarding abortion at ND because those words have meaning there. There certainly are moral implications - abortion is intrinsicly evil and thus morally wrong. There are spiritual implications, abortion is spiritually deadening.

Depending on the audience, he lets his true feelings be known - woman punished with a child. Does he see himself as a punishment to his mother?

His voting record rather than his speeches reveal the real Obama.

its very simple David
they are sheep. They want to be led, not think for themselves.

When he says or does something which is very partisan ( "I won" ), they just bray louder.

We are in the great "white out' now.....
I think that the more I see O, his speeches, and his mannerisms, the more I realize we are in a mind-numbing, blinding blizzard. He is like the creepiest Stephen King adaptation of the abominable "snow"man. He comes equipped with a radical snow-blowing machine and he is trying to bury us all. If that fails, and some of us--who see truth as an absolute--- survive, then he will send his moral iceberg to flatten the rest of us. He's buried a lot of persons already: ABORTION!!

His address at ND gave him another chance to "snow" the young and those with not very discerning minds. Shame on Notre Dame, Jenkins. the students and faculty who supported O and his storm of the century.

I understand that just before you die, when you're freezing to death, you begin to feel very warm......Deceptive isn't it?.

"Safe, Legal and Rare..."
Is how BHO describes abortion.

Abortion is: (multiple choice)
q Safe
q Legal
q Rare
q None of the above




Safe: Not for the 1.2 million babies aborted in 2005


Legal: 29 states have fetal homicide laws


Rare: Not in ANY sense, see “Safe” above

rare 1 (râr)
1. Infrequently occurring; uncommon: a rare event.
2. Excellent; extraordinary: a rare sense of honor.
(The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language)

Torture bad, abortion good
ABORT TERRORISTS

obambi inconsistent
Is a dark soul with no respect for life whatsoever. He has spoken in favor of embryonic stem cell research yet he believes a fetus is not a human being. What does he think is being "harvested" from those embryos?

Vizier - #12
Your point about including pictures is very important! The Anti-abortion poster in my car window shows a 12 week old baby (referred to by ANTI-LIFERS as a fetus)laying in a gloved hand.It is totally human shaped--certainly no "blob" of tissue. I purposely chose it because it LESS gruesome than many others abundantly available. I would not post many of the photos available because they might upset small children who happen to walk by my car. Take a look here:

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://anti-abortion .info/images/aborted_7_month_fetus.jpg&imgrefurl=http://ant i-abortion.info/pictures.php&usg=__H_uYYtIX66sy8PcXYDvCF0wj loY=&h=371&w=500&sz=54&hl=en&start=1&tbnid=Mp4bZLWJoFk9KM:& tbnh=96&tbnw=130&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dsite:anti-abortion.info %2Bfetus%26gbv%3D2%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Do rg.mozilla:en-US:official

AND NEXT
barry stated he wanted 'to reduce women having abortions'.
READ THAT AGAIN.
Sounds like he wants to get rid of the women as well as the babies they don't want that they carry in their wombs.
Don't Muslim men believe women are property and they have the right to behead them if a woman breaks one of their laws?
BYE BYE MISS AMERICAN PIE

legal but rare is lame
Barry is falling back on the standard Clinton line on abortion. And of course the one question the Obama media will never ask is: If the fetus is not human, why would you care if this procedure is rare? Should it not be treated like any other operation. Like getting your tonsels taken out.

re: Clownbama!!!
THIS CLOWN IS SOME KIND OF WORK!!!! There is no middle ground between a live baby and a dead baby!!! This idiot is talking to I suppose a bunch of other idiots who can't seem to understand that they are being wooed by the low art of political seduction!!!!

Are we stuck here again?
Until conservatives can find a better topic than the un-winnable grind against abortion, the dems will have the 50% of the public that believes in choice in their pockets.

We need to concentrate on freedom and smaller government and personal responsibility.

Responsible behavior would nullify the need for abortion.

Our President's Idea of Reconciling
Liberals get what they want incrementally. There is no better example of this than with abortion. At the beginning it was allowed only during the first trimester. As time went on it has come to include partial birth. And of course, as Mr. Obama sees it, now includes allowing a baby, who survives this horrendous procedure, to die alone in starvation.

Abortion is such a despically evil act, yet Mr. Obama claims he wants to reconcile opposing viewpoints. That is impossible. His idea of reconciling means that his opponents must relinquish all conscience, and no longer speak up for those who cannot speak for themselves. Mr. Obama's views and actions on this issue are as extreme as they can get. He will continue to enact policies that show a total disregard for precious human life.

To me, Mr. Obama tries to come across as the smiling good guy, while stabbing you in the back. Given his stance on this issue, his "let us come together" pleadings are reprehensible because he has no intentions of budging. While speaking deceptively soothing words, Mr. Obama will continue to champion the silent holocaust. That is his idea of reconciling.


RWR
You are absolutely right. obambi's illogical appraoch to this subject is mind numbing

Kevin @ 8:28 a.m.

EXCELENT BLOG!

Ronald Wilson Reagan
" If the fetus is not human, why would you care if this procedure is rare?"

BINGO! If abortion is no big deal, then why the supposed moral grappling among the "pro-choice" crowd? I had a cyst removed some years back, and rest assured I didn't go through any heart-wrenching emotions over it...


Mimi
Personal responsibility is the liberal dems kryptonite, they want nothing to do with it. Conservatives will NEVER win the abortion debate on personal responsibility. It will only be won by reminding every individual exactly what abortion is every single time it occurs, murder.

.
All Oblahblah has to do is doubletalk and make these people "feel good" about their position on abortion. Actually, on any issue.

There is absolutely no compromise on murder.
One is either dead or alive.

Oh, but we don't wanna pour any water on a terrorist. My goodness...that would be torture.
How insane is that? We can chop of little arms and legs and suck out brains of the unborn but libs come unglued at the mention of waterboarding. How absolutely absurd. BUT they can 'feel' good. ha ha ha

Choice
Obama is committed to women having choice. He wants us to give up choice with healthcare. We will give up choice with our cars, we will give up choice when it comes to energy, he has decided that we should not have choice in so many aspects of our life but having the choice to kill a baby must be kept. This speaks volumes about this mans morals.

There's a dog catcher in the white house
and he's been mistaken for President.

Mrs. Paddy
I see a lot of poems and song parodies in these forums that fall woefully short. Yours is a delightful exception. Nice job.

obama/abortion
He mentioned adoption as an alternative to abortion.Why doen't he give the same amount of money to adoption agencys as he does to abortion agencys.better known as planned parenthood

Joel-De OL
You will not be standing alone.

Abortion is child sacrifice to Baal.

One can 'dress it up' or 'doublespeak' but evil is evil.

Pro-choice is a joke when you can't have CHOICE about anything else. It's absurd.

Dick
Libs always get what they want incrementally. Look at seatbelt laws. First there were no such laws, then it was they will fine you if they stop you for anotherreason and find out you dont have the belt on. Now its you will get stopped and fined if you dont have a seatbelt on. And you notice how libs always want to do things to make us "safer"?

MIMI (9:13 a.m. EST )

What if pro-life people did not take a stand?

What if we thought it might be best to "find a better topic than the un-winnable grind against abortion."(?)

What if we decided because "50% of the public" disagrees with us, it's best we just keep quiet?


Maybe we should just say go ahead, murder all the babies you want! We don't care.
................................................................................................

Total unrestricted abortion. Abortion, abortion, more abortion. Obama and his bud, George Soros, have no problem what-so-ever with that.

But some of us, Thank God, do.


Joel De Oppresso Liber
"Even if 99% of the nation believed in "choice", and were threatening the other 1% if we spoke out, I would STILL be against abortion. Right is right, and wrong is wrong. I don't care if I end up THE ONLY ONE standing for what is right, I will do so anyway."

Hear, hear. And dittos.

Did anyone see
Ace Ventura giving Brian Kilmead a hard time this morning over "so-called torture" better known as waterboarding. Dang...he told Kilmead to walk the walk and be in the military if he believed in waterboarding. How nuts. He got bumped one too many times. Isn't it odd he isn't as vocal about killing babies as he is pouring water on a terrorist.

Excellent article, and gets right to
the crux of the problem. Obama spins his lies telling those many who obviously cannot think for themselves, that he wants to try come to an understanding with the pro-life crowd. Those inclined to believe his lies, will happily agree that he want abortions to be, as the leftys state, low cost, safe and rare. But for Obama to say he's willing to find compromise, is he telling us he's changed his views on:parental notification? NO. How about second trimester abortions? NO. Third trimester abortions? NO. Attempting to save those few babies that survived botched abortions? NO. So what is it he's willing to compromise. Certainly NOT the political capital and support of the baby killing factories like Planned Parenthood.

Erring on side of caution???
If Barack Obama believes that knowing when life begins is above his pay grade, then why not err on the side of caution?

Whenever pro life people ask for ANY restrictions on abortion, we are accused of being NAZIs.

Barack Omama and his myrmadons say they want to find common ground. Barack Omama believes in the right of a woman to kill her baby 1 second before birth...oh that's right, he did oppose the born alive infant protection act, so I guess it's worse than that.

Where is the compromise to killing a baby right up until birth? Pro abortion people, let's see your actions or is it all talk.




Joel
You make some great points. However libs have always thought if they scream louder or claim to have more support for a behavior no matter how deplorable then it is good and ok and no one has a right to oppose them. Isnt it funny though how on the issue of gay marriage even though most peole are opposed to it, the libs arent happy with that? They seek to continue to shove it down our throats just likethey do with abortion.

Pregnancy Care Centers
are making progress....one baby at a time.

I don't think there is any organization more deserving or rewarding than volunteering at a Pregnancy Care Center. They always need the help of volunteers.

SHARON in Fl
"Isn't it odd he isn't as vocal about killing babies as he is pouring water on a terrorist"

It IS odd. It is also one of the primary reasons that libs utterly lack credibility in the waterboarding is "torture" debate.

Oblahblah is full of
crap. He has no intention of compromising on anything. Because of him, we now pay $$$$ to other countries so that they can kill their unborn as well. Actions speak louder than words. He speaks with forked tongue and the people cheer. What fools.

THE FUTURE AS SEEN THROUGH 24
...1. JACK'S life is saved by experimental stem cell surgery from his daughter but unexpected side effects cause him to grow breasts and his gonads to shrivel up ...

...2. RENEE accidentally kills a suspect with an over zealous interrogation technique ...

...3. JANET becomes the head of the FBI, fires CHLOE and issues a warrant for RENEE'S arrest ...

...4. RENEE discovers that she likes torture and becomes a dominatrix donning a skin tight black leather jump suit and begins calling herself CAT WOMAN ...

...5. JACK develops an overpowering urge to come to work in stiletto heels and fishnet stockings ...

...6. The President cracks up and is hauled off to a mental institution after ordering a sneak nuclear attack on RUSSIA ...

...7. In a special election America elects its first openly gay cross dresser who likes to dress up as a woman for special occasions ...

...8. RENEE helps TONY escape and they join an ECO-TERRORIST group and begin bombing pipelines and oil refineries to save the Planet ...

...9. JANET decides to diversify the FBI and begins a program of hiring gay black agents ...

...10. JACK is given command of this new elite group of agents and names them the LAVENDER FORCE ...they are assigned to stop RENEE & TONY although JANET is conflicted because she secretly has sympathy with their mission to destroy the Oil Companies and force America to go GREEN ...

...11. JACK is called to the WHITE HOUSE for a special briefing by the President and the physical attraction between the two is so overpowering that JACK allows himself to be seduced on the Presidents desk ...

...12. This encounter is captured on security tape and is hacked into by members of a NEO-CON SUPER PATRIOT GROUP that wants to blackmail the President into committing genocide against peace loving MUSLIMS ...

.....Stay tuned for an exciting new season as 24 goes PC .....COLOSSUS

My fear
My fear is that come the next election cycle, I won't have a dog in the fight. I refuse to vote for anyone but pro-life. With the repubs pushing toward the center, I will be done as far as politics go. Abortion is an abomination and God is not pleased. Thank you to all those so-called Christians who voted for this double-speak devil.

Cindy
I know how you feel.
People who call themselves christian but voted for this Kenyan president have discouraged many pro-lifers. However, they are the ones who will have to answer for those actions. The Bible says that in the end times, there will be a falling away of the church. We certainly see that. I remind myself daily that I am only responsible for my own actions and vow to stand for what is right and good even if I stand alone.
I hope all who respect life and want to defend the unborn will support their local Pregnancy Care Center either financially or by volunteering. Since the most radical pro-abortion liberal is in the WH, these centers will be targeted even more. Pro-abortionists would love to shut them all down. The economy is taking its toll on these centers around the country.

Curtail Abortion
Yes, I think abortion is murder because it is killing a developing person. However, I don't know if your "principled" hand-wringing has prevented many abortions. I do know, however, that preventing unwanted pregnancies does decrease abortions dramatically. The European states that you would deride as godless have much lower abortion rates than America. Denmark has 1/6 the percapita abortion rate as the US. There is definately a lesson to be learned there. I believe that education, birth control, and giving support to pregnant women so they can choose life will prevent more abortions than your all chest thumping.

Stand Up for America!
Anyone with half a brain can see that Obama is a master manipulator and megalomaniac. Unfortunately, there are many people in our country with less than half a brain...

It is uncomfortable for some of us to stand up--visibly and vocally--for our beliefs, but now is the time. We are sliding head first into a moral abyss!

Waterboarding vs Abortion
The left are such hypocrties! They rail against frightening a Muslim into telling what secrets he may have that would save American lives.

Perhaps this same Muslim has just taken part in killing or maiming several American troops and knows where other potential killers are housed.

Yet they have no problem with the slaughter of countless American children who have done nothing to deserve their murder.

Abortion is a form of birth control for these murderers of their OWN children. How they can live with themselves is beyond my comprehension.

Liberals who come here to rebuke conservatives for ANYTHING we think or do,have no business even trying to condemn us.

They have blood on their hands and they cannot wash it off,as long as they continue to condone murder.

Robert
"principled handwringing" ?
What and who are you referring to by that comment?
I see many of the staff and volunteers of these centers doing the work of educating and helping women in crisis. I don't see anyone standing around wringing their hands. Anything and everything someone does to protect life is good and right.... including posting on Townhall.com in favor of life.

Rowly
Isn't that a real kicker?
Chop and slice those little legs and arms off and suck their little brains out is okay but pour some water on a terrorist/murderer and that's torture. It's absolutely and absurdly ridiculous. And they actually believe that nonsense.

Here's another little tidbit that people are blind to.
Abortion = Euthanasia
It's coming.
Your duty to die.
Socialized medicine will be rationed. Whether you are young (Schivo) or old and the government deems it too expensive for you to have that much-needed treatment to stay alive...well, you are up the creek. It's your duty to die.
Oh goodie. Another messed-up government program.

Sometimes ya get what ya ask for.

Support your local Pregnancy Care Center.

SHARON in Fl
"Here's another little tidbit that people are blind to.
Abortion = Euthanasia
It's coming.
Your duty to die."

That sounds outlandish to most rational people (libs don't qualify), but it is true, it is coming. I also think forced abortion/killing after birth of disabled or handicapped infants (Downs, spina bifida, etc) will be next after the elderly.

The depraved mind knows no bounds.

Obama has given us
an incentive to drop our health insurance and sign on to his universal government lousy healthcare. We tax the insurance. Make those premiums so high in a lousy economy and that will do the trick. Make sure no one but the elites can afford health insurance. When everyone is on "the plan" then you have no choice. Another one of those no-choice things.

Sometimes ya get what ya ask for.

Robert wrote:

"However, I don't know if your "principled" hand-wringing has prevented many abortions."

No, not sleeping around with women has prevented abortions.

Also, not having an abortion has prevented abortion.






Robert
That same Denmark you refer to is being outbred by muslims and in a decade will no longer be recognizable. Bravo.

Hey SFA1973,Rowly, etal! Where is
(H)'ALitosis (H)'arry aka Scranton's favorite son? He usually weighs in with his usual ardent support of killing the child in the womb.

And If Not
it shouldn't sound outlandish as Tom Daschle has already been talking about rationing and "it's your duty to die".

I didn't come up with that idea.
It's been in the news.

It is coming.
It's already happening in Canada and Europe.
That's why they come here for treatment.

Oh, but it's free....they say.

Taint' nothin in life that's free except salvation through Christ.

Abortion's Blackest Secret

"We do not want the word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population, and the (Black) minister is the man who can straighten that idea out if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members."
Margaret Sanger
Founder, Planned Parenthood


"Although black women constitute only 6% of the population, they comprise 36% of the abortion industry’s clientele. The leading abortion providers have chosen to exploit blacks by locating 94% of their abortuaries in urban neighborhoods with high black populations.

This high rate of abortion has decimated the black family and destroyed black neighborhoods to the detriment of society at large.

1,452 African-American children are killed each day by the heinous act of abortion.

3 out of 5 pregnant African-American women will abort their child.
"...For those of you that don't know, Barack Obama became a "minister" of Planned Parenthood a long time ago. He's so good at carrying out their racist, murderous, agenda against Afro-Americans and society at large, they gave him a 100% score on his voting record.

Planned Parenthood is following the strategy of their racist founder, Margaret Sanger, to the letter. Planed Parenthood is saying, “We have our poster boy!

Get him out in front as a lure for their women and men. Get them into our abortion clinics and dismember their children by the millions!”

You say absurd? No Way!

Planned Parenthood’s Valentine cards were sent out to hundreds of thousands of young people in the nation.

Whose face is plainly seen waving to them with a big smile?

Whose endorsement is given to this racist and calloused organization?

Who is used to lure children to give credibility to its hideous plot?

Barack Obama, that's who!..."

By Rev. Clenard H. Childress Jr.,
March 5, 2008
http://www.blackgenocide.org/obama.html