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Monday, June 08, 2009
Bruce Bialosky :: Townhall.com Columnist
What Europeanization Will Really Mean?
by Bruce Bialosky
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Mr. Obama made yet another trip to Europe this week along with his stopover in the Middle East. Since Mr. Obama and his friends would like us to be more like Europeans, my wife and I recently went on a great explore to find out what life is really like in Europe and what changes we should expect.

Get out your bike because you will soon be riding it everywhere. That means you too, Grandma – no exceptions. The best way to cut down on that nasty CO2 is to chuck your cars and get on a two-wheeler. Of course, after a couple years with the government running two of our three major car companies, a bicycle may become an attractive alternative.

The Europeans have not quite caught on to bike helmets yet, but I am sure we can enlighten them. The problem with helmets occurs when you have all these young folks who ride while talking on their cell phones. You thought you were concerned about people driving while on a cell phone, then wait until you have 20 bikes bearing down on you with everyone talking to someone else. To get ahead of the curve here, I have developed and patented a bike helmet with built-in Bluetooth. It also has a sophisticated system where you can text message by blinking your eyes based on Morse code. There is nothing like recycling old things that still work.

*** Special Offer ***

Get ready to move to the city to make this happen. You cannot live in the suburbs or small towns anymore. We need to be more like Europe and all pile into big cities. To make this work, we need 35-40% of our population to be in a major city. France has Paris, Belgium has Brussels and Denmark has Copenhagen. Because the United States is so much larger we have to have more than one city – so I am figuring on six regional centers. They should be Los Angeles, Chicago, Dallas, New York, and Atlanta and let’s say Omaha. We need to all relocate so that enough of our population is in these cities and then all the national resources can be focused on those locations.

What comes next is every building being the exact same height. Building codes can be wonderful. You tell developers they can build five stories high and magically you have street after street of five-story buildings. Visit East Berlin sometime and see what the New World of Europe is like. Look forward to monotonous buildings with very similar character. But Amsterdam and Copenhagen and The Hague are all like that also (with a few rare exceptions).

So New York, you are going to have to demolish the Chrysler building. We can give you a ten-story limit and that is that; no more differentiation.

Forget wholesale and learn to speak that ugly word “retail.” They do not have a discounter to be found. Also, forget being able to go to a store when you have time to go. Just like it was in the United States back in the pre-historic ‘60s, retailers are not open at night or on Sunday. Somehow you have to figure out how to shop and work at the same time. Of course, half of our workforce does that on the Internet now so we have become somewhat accustomed to it.

Wait until you see those retail prices. Clerks at 7-11 stores in Copenhagen make $25 an hour. So can you image what a bottle of water costs? Don’t get the idea that an hourly wage of $25 is such a big deal. After you pay 50% income taxes, the Value-Added Tax (VAT) and property taxes on your flat, you may not have enough left to buy that shiny new Schwinn.

On the other hand, everything is free –FREE. No medical costs, if you can get treatment, no expense for college -- what a life. Getting into college, however, is quite a different story. First one takes a test to see if going onto high school is permitted, of which 50% do and the other 50% become clerks at 7-11. After high school, another test is taken and 15% of those get to go to college. What a lovely system this is. The good thing is you know what you will be doing with the rest of your life by the age of 17.

If we may, let’s return to that bottle of water. Yes, there is no such thing as free water. If you go to a restaurant you can pay for water or buy a coke that is delivered in an easy-to-consume, three-sip bottle -- for a buck a sip. By the time you finish your meal, you are so thirsty or so broke you are in a semi-delusional state. The concept of a refill on a liquid is non-existent in Europe. They have never heard of ice tea. And to get ice is like a gift from God. What you get with that gift it is three lovely cubes -- all at once.

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But don’t worry about being parched as this turns out to be beneficial. That is because they charge you to urinate. Not just at the train stations or in public places, but even at McDonald’s. You can stop anywhere in America, along any highway, get a Coke for a buck and relieve yourself. Not with our sophisticated Europeans friends – that will not do. Even when you pay to get into places like the Museum at Waterloo (no pun intended) where they charge you $15 for admittance, they still want a tariff to go to the potty. No wonder they have to provide universal health care; they all have urinary tract infections from not having the correct change.

You should not, however, be discouraged from travelling to Europe. There are some wonderful things to see. There are some very old buildings – you know the ones that they did not destroy in their various wars. There is some great artwork that they have stolen from each other and landed in state museums in former palaces of beheaded monarchs where they charge you an arm and a leg to see it. They do have one certainly redeemable idea. They plant beautiful flowers in their public parks, which we sadly do not do enough.

Mr. Obama, we are sure you may have missed some of these experiences as you were whisked along in your limo. I am sure Ms. Merkel did not charge you for your bottle of water. And she may have invited you to her spiffy new government building that actually does not look like every other one where they do not charge for potty trips.

Just in case you did miss the actual experiences of daily life in Europe, we thought you would like to know. America would be so much better with all these grand ideas. I think we should have red light districts in every city. Wouldn’t that be nifty? Think about it Mr. President.

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About The Author
Bruce Bialosky is the founder of the Republican Jewish Coalition of California and a former Presidential appointee.
Dr. Rick in Ga
Why does it seem that traffic on this street all seems to be going the other way?

Steve from CA
This is your big news? They are putting in another tunnel. So what. What took them so long? How is that bigger news than an airport putting in another runway. Or a city buying ten more buses and another route? Of course train systems have to grow in crowded cities.

lilly
Were you a rude hippie or hippy?

Do you believe cars are inherently evil?

Are you still hoping for Utopia?

Joyce said nothing foolish. She stated a few facts. Geographically the United States and Europe are not the same.

lilly
Joyce and Joycey are not one in the same. Great name though.

lilly
Freedom and capitalism (power is in citizen's hands)and Judeo-Christian values allow us to live a more comfortable life. We have what you call the ideal setting for technology and innovation.

In deepest Africa where people are without the basic necessities of life it is due to their militant dictators and paganism.

You seem to be under some mistaken delusion that if America became poor the rest of the world would have more. The amount of energy we use has no effect on the rest of the world. In fact if we were able to produce our own energy energy prices would fall world-wide and make more energy available for others. I don't believe it is your goal to see that Africans have better lives. What about African children currently dying of malaria? Were you a part of the DDT hoax as well as this global warming hoax.

Poor people living under tyrannical marxist dictators will never, never, never have enough to meet even basic needs until their culture and governments line up with what is necessary to have a decent life.

We could throw every single dollar we have at these people. THe only result being their dictators would live in greater luxury and they would probably build a few bombs.

Lilly your too old to still be asleep. When are you gonna wake up? God is waiting for you to line your ideas up with His. Start studying HIs Word before it is too late for your soul.

Matters of fact
Having lifed in Europe for 25 years, I have to agree and disagree with the author.

Look at some of the countries and the population, in Germany it is simply impossible to have american style suburbs. The country has almost a third of the US population but is only as big as Montana, how in heavens name are they supposed to do it?
Even if America should decide to become more European, they would not have to live in packed cities.

Same goes for big cars, many European cities were bulit before cars were invented, the streets are a lot smaller, and even if they would want to bulit bigger streets, there is simply no space for them. In every city I lived in Europe, you would be lost with a Ford F 150, you would have no means to get around.

As to construction restrictions; they exist in America allready, you have these groups telling you what to do with you garden (something totally unacceptable in Germany), you have zoning laws, cities that tell you how your house is supposed to look like and so on. You may like the restrictions in America better than in Europe but they are basically the same.

True words come from the author when he speaks about, ice cubes, no refills, having to pay for urination and espensive water bottles.

the future, get used to it......

this video describes one of the most important infrastructure projects undertaken since the interstate highway system

http://arctunnel.com/video/


I've never been more proud to be an engineer. I almost wish I was back in my NJ hometown. (almost, the Hollywood Hills are too good to ever leave)

The Audacity...
of a gov't that dares to define modes of behavior beyond basic taxation and protection. Some anointed pointy-head in gov't has such a superior vision that the force of state must be brought to bare and enforce it against the will of some who might rather do things differently?

Is it the moral charter of gov't to define winners and loosers in a free society?

What makes one man inherently superior to make a choice for another? I mean besides just having "the gun"? His GS rank?

Sorry, a free people need a limited gov't doing just a few things, not everything, and certainly not coercing the whole on behalf of a mobilized plurality, or even a slim majority. Freedom does not work that way.

Someday Maybe
Beginning in 1976 I began to build the house I live in now. It'a a big house, over 4000 sq. ft. It took me many years, but it's done and paid for. I built it on spare time and spare money.

It sits on 4 acres in a quiet neighborhood. I retired young and everything's paid off. I worked hard to be in this position. For many years all my free time was spent on this place. I didn't watch sports, get fat, go into debt or vote for democrats.

Thus, everything I have is mine and no one will take it from me. All my other stuff is mine too, and there's lots of it. Cool stuff, big tools, vehicles and the like.

I have more space than I need, for sure. It's just me, the girlfriend and pets. I could probably house two more families in this place.

I suspect the day will come when our ruling elites decide I have too much home. They will perhaps eliminate my property tax deduction for my Federal income taxes, then maybe assess some type of "excess living space" fee, then, if that doesn't work, they'll order me to house some illegal aliens or other disenfranchised citizens.

I will ignore them and all their notices and warnings. Some unfortunate bureaucrat will be sent to deal with me in person and order me to comply.

I just hope the poor phuck doesn't have a family. No one will take my stuff, even if it is killing the planet or even if it isn't fair. I don't care how they live in Europe. I would prefer all the registered democrats starve and freeze to death rather than give them the use of my shelter.

Good night, everyone

European Socialists

Are considering changing their names to "Democrats"; in order, to look like Obama.

This way they can continue to spend like nutters and act like Obama.

They can continue to be atheists, secularist, socialists, and homo-agenda drivers, groups championed by Obama.

In Britain, they have literally emptied their Treasury and lost their AAA credit rating.

We will lose our's soon.


Catastophe there and coming to every home in America.


The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. - Thomas Jefferson.


Lilly
I don't care how the rest of the world sees us. I live in America. The government of America works for me and should be looking out for my best interests. If my best interests are served by big cars, big houses, big general stores like Wal-Mart and the like, I want the government to work toward the continued existence of those big things. I don't care if anybody else in the world likes us, as long as they do business. I don't care, Lilly. I don't care, and I don't care if you don't like it, and I know I'm not alone in that.

binc and the Socialist majority
binc,
We have a Constitution that was written to protect the freedoms of individuals from the "majority". Trouble is that the "ruling class" will not admit to their plans and by allowing the "socialization" of our schools, the majority does understand what they are giving up.

Steve
We (PA. rednecks) actually prefer to be addressed as 'clingers' nowadays.
- Thanks

Socialism,
and socialists... suck

Pistol
"Wouldn't that be a super ironic hoot? Ginsberg and Sotomayor do a reverse Kennedy/Souter and turn constitutionalists? Can you imagine the liberal screams? Maybe i ought to send roses."

I knew what Ginsburg should with the case, but like most legal commentators this morning, I would have almost put money on Chrysler.

The case does:

#1) violate the Contract Clause of the Const.
#2) violate the Takings Clause of the 5th Am.
#3) bring back the constitutionality of the original TARP legislation; and,
#4) raise the question whether the Administration had the power to extend TARP funds to non-financial entities.

It is my position that the Chrysler case is problematic on all 4 points.

I believe that the Appellate Court wanted the case to go to the Supremes because they ruled immediately from the bench, went on the record about the need for the Supremes to get involved, and did not publish a decision. Further, I believe that Ginsburg probably spoke with the other members of the Court to get their views before delaying the sale and ordering oral argument.

If the Court upholds the lower ruling, then our private property rights, ability to contract and have certainty of more than 150 years of bankruptcy law, and market system will be turned on their heads.

Socialism
If Obama was fully upfront about his plan for this country and if an educated America chose socialism I wouldn't be happy about it but would accept the will of the majority. I don't believe that he's being at all honest with the American public and I find it very worrisome.

Europe
If Europe is so great, why have som many millions of Europeans migrated to the US?

My daughter and I went to England and France last summer with her French class. It was our first trip to Europe.

I'm a history buff so seeing all of that history first hand was wonderful, but the trip sure made me appreciate free restrooms, ICE, clean streets, and room to move.

We found most restrooms within attractions to be free, and all restrooms were free in England, but they were not free in France. And at the exchange rates last summer, the cost really added up. It was usually 1 Euro so imagine paying $2 every time you had to go.

England was clean and pleasant as was rural France, but Paris was filthy. Crowded and cramped and filthy. There were overflowing trashcans in all public areas with trash on all the grassy areas. The subways were dirty and hot.

And how, after all these years, have they not discovered ice? Even McDonald's didn't serve ice in drinks. We were fortunate that the last hotel we stayed in had a bucket of ice on the breakfast buffet. I drank ice water along with my orange juice just because I could.

I'd still love to visit again, but it made me appreciate my good fortune that my ancestors decided to migrate to the US. God Bless America!



St. Denis IORA
Wouldn't that be a super ironic hoot? Ginsberg and Sotomayor do a reverse Kennedy/Souter and turn constitutionalists? Can you imagine the liberal screams? Maybe i ought to send roses.

lilly
when did GWB and Laura go on "date night" at our expense??

I have no problem with the Obamas visiting their home (as did GWB) - everyone needs a break. However, considering the economy and the fact Obama says himself we are OUT OF MONEY -- why fly to NY for a non-essential date night?

To lulu
Actually I have been unable to travel for some years now as my elderly husband is not well. And I think you will find that I am not alone in criticizing the American attitude you stated---your words were "I like big cars, big houses, big appliances, and big stores". Do you wonder that the rest of the world sees us as greedy and arrogant?

Yes, President Obama travels on official vehicles, as have all other Presidents. Ronald Reagan often commuted from Washington to California, using Air Force One, so he could ride his horse, and when recently I did a count I learned that George W Bush spent one out of every three days he was President enjoying R&R at his Texas ranch, at Camp David, or at some other pleasant place (like his parents' Kennebunkport complex)---and he did not get there via AMTRAK.

I Could Kiss Justice Ginsburg

Yes!!!

The US Supreme Court has delayed the sale of Chrysler to Fiat until oral arguments can be had.

Those pesky contracts and the Contract Clause of the US Constitution.


Abrogation of contracts in unconstitutional.


Who knows? Maybe, the Supremes will act like the Court did under the first half of FDR's Administration and stop unconstitutional overreach by the Federal govt.

lilly
in less you are living a subsistence lifestyle I suggest you refrain from judging others.

Your arrogance and ignorance is breathtaking.

Why would you assume I have no knowledge of how many in the world live? I would ask you why they live that way? They are burdened by totally corrupt governments not to mention the oppression of Western do-gooders (DDT anyone?).

How big is your house? How many calories a day are you consuming? Do you own more than one set of clothes? You reported that you travel overseas what does that cost in resources? Why do you deserve that?

BTW, I don't believe in peak oil. I don't believe that my consuming less will put more in the hands of the third world? I wonder if you and other self-riteuos liberals call-out your heroes like the Obama's flying to NY for a dinner date, or the size of the Kennedy homes, or Al Gore's globetrotting? Or even your own?

No you make my point for me. I posted earlier that there are a bunch of useful idiots who support the tyranny of the left because they are enraged by the thought of those in fly-over country or the exurbs living a lifestyle that they feel they don't deserve because they are not part of the enlightened elites.

Red Neck Fools
Hey Steve,
Bring your Evian-sipping, multi-language speaking, pinky finger sticking up when you drink your Obama Kool-Aid butt down here to the South. We'll be more than happy to show you first hand how those WWF guys feel after a good, well deserved a$$ whipping.

Don't like it here? Then take your sorry butt somewhere else you self-righteous moron.

Lilly pontificated...
**When much of the world has no electricity at all, no power for raising water from a well, no illumination at night, no electricity for sterilizing surgical instruments, what exactly are YOU saying with your demand for the biggest and best of everything that uses power? On what basis do you deserve all of this? You've made a state of arrogance and entitlement.**

And, Lilly, there once was an America with none of those things, either. Gasp! My grandmother came across the plains in a covered wagon and lived in a sod house for a time on the Nebraska plains. My GRANDMOTHER, Lilly. Not that long ago. There was no electricity there on the plains, either and they had to dig a well and buy kerosene for their lamps. What happened in America, Lilly, to change all that? FREEDOM and CAPITALISM, Lilly!

And, Lilly, why are there still countries where there is no electricity, no power for wells, no electricity for sterilizing medical equipment? Ever thought about that? No FREEDOM, no CAPITALISM, only tyrants.

Grow up, Lilly. Be proud your country has advanced beyond the norm for the world. We are an example of what the human condition could be - you want us to go back to the stone age - what possible good could that do for anyone on the planet?

You've made a statement of ignorance and it's just as arrogant has the comment you were commenting on.


lilly

The rest of the world can kiss their American dollar donations goodbye. Obama already admitted that we are broke and now there is no way to ever pay for ObamaCare, which will eventually become single-payer.

They are going to make deep rations and denial of treatment, surgeries, tests, drugs, physical therapies, etc. Even antibiotics are going to be limited.

ObamaCare will kill me. At least, I have family in France where I can go to private clinics and doctors.

To svcpalletc re #23
If you can cite a reference proving that fewer than one thousand Americans have migrated to Europe since 1945 I would be most interested to see it. I could not find it. I then googled "americans resident in Europe"---the most recent figure I could find was 1999, when 3,784,693 Americans were living abroad. They are listed by nation so you can add up European countries if you like. An awful lot of Americans seem to be choosing to live abroad.

I wonder also how you define "American". Many examples crowd into my mind of people who had committed to living here but have left or are leaving. Recently a Polish woman told me she was returning to Poland because "here you also pay taxes but you don't get anything for the money but in Poland you get everything". An old friend, an American long married to a Danish woman, both now in their 80's, told us that one of their two US-born grown children has settled in Denmark because he thinks it's a better atmosphere for raising his family. I know a Belgian scientist who gave up $$$$ here and took his family back to Belgium for the same reason. I know an Italian married to a British man who retired in Italy after 30 years in the States and an elderly Argentine couple who returned to BA after 50 years in the States. I saw on TV that since the economy of Ireland has improved due to the computer industry there, many who had emigrated to the States in the present generation are returning to Ireland for a better quality of life there.

lilly
To a great extent, people learn different languages because they need to, and, in Europe, they learn them as children. Growing up along the border between Texas and Mexico, I had many friends who were bilingual, and, in many cases, it was because they had Mexican nannies and housekeepers. I studied Spanish, Latin and German in school (and I really wish I could speak Spanish, which would be useful in Texas), but, unfortunately, I speak none of them, in part because, at the time I studied them I had no real incentive to learn them, other than the school required I take language classes.

But the fact many Europeans may speak several languages does not make me covet their lifestyles or social systems. I'll take the monolingual American system (or what used to be the American system) any day. If I really wanted to be German or French or Venezuelan, I'd move there; why don't you?

To Greedy Lulu
You like big cars, big houses, big appliances, and big stores (malls?)--and all of it runs on big petroleum products. In one of your posts you complain that "elites...think they are better than everyone else". When much of the world has no electricity at all, no power for raising water from a well, no illumination at night, no electricity for sterilizing surgical instruments, what exactly are YOU saying with your demand for the biggest and best of everything that uses power? On what basis do you deserve all of this? You've made a state of arrogance and entitlement.

I don't think you understand how much of the world lives. I learned something when my dentist went to work for a couple of weeks in Africa as part of a program run by her church. She said people were lined up to see her so far that she couldn't see the end of the line and that it was very hot and they had neither water nor electricity. I stupidly asked her, "Then how did you run your drill?". She answered, "We weren't drilling---this wasn't about filling teeth---they were all there for problems so severe that surgery was required, like opening an abcess or removing infected teeth."

When we go before God, how will we explain our greed?

Europe vs USA
You are comparing life in the big European metropolitan centers to life in US suburbs. It would be more accurate to compare living in Paris, London, et al, to life in New York City or Washington DC. How many New Yorkers own their own homes? How many own cars? In that part of France that is NOT Paris most Frenchmen own their own homes, have gardens, own cars, etc. Compare like with like, for fairness.

One big difference that I have noticed in my travels: most Europeans feel pride in and at home in their capital cities, while I, as a white original American, feel like a foreigner in virtually every American city. Los Angeles, New York, Washington DC...all of them are to me and my people hostile and foreign places I can't wait to get out of. I am frankly ashamed of most American cities. I feel more comfortable and less "foreign" on the streets of Paris and Athens than I do on the streets of L.A. and NYC. And please, don't urge me to "leave the country". Where I chose to live is indeed very comfortable and perfect for me.

lilly

This is not about money; rather, it is all about individual freedom and liberty. You remember those right? Our Founding Fathers lived and breathed them. And, they knew tyranny, too.

Forget, Dutch, Swedish, French or Canadian healthcare. What they are proposing might be worse than Britain's NHS and NICE, both of which I suggest that you become accustomed to because they are draconian to the elderly.

The 15 Things That You Should Know About ObamaCare can be seen here:


http://keithhennessey.com/2009/06/08/kennedy-health-bill/

15 Things To Know About ObamaCare

READ IT NOW.

And, call your representatives.

Taxes up. The government will ration care and deny services like MRIs and CTs. Behavior will be dictated (smoking, drinking, diet, exercise, etc.). You will be paying for unions. Poverty coverage will be expanded by 150%. The working poor (150-500%) will be subsidized. You will pay for legal aliens.

If you have health insurance, you will be offsetting illegal healthcare, paying higher healthcare taxes, and higher health insurance premiums.

Read more of this nightmare here:

http://keithhennessey.com/2009/06/08/kennedy-health-bill/

Cathy
You have a point when you say that we are a big country; in Europe, just going away for the weekend very often involves crossing a border and speaking another language.

But there's more to this question. 1) Many Americans live abroad for years without learning another language (for example my neighbors who lived for 30 years in Germany and Japan and speak not a word of German or Japanese). Often Americans will justify this by saying that other people should learn English, or that (when traveling) that if hotels and salespeople want Americans' money they can speak to them in English.

2) It's not unusual for Americans who take a foreign language in school to emerge not being able to speak or read the language. By contrast, educated Europeans and Asians are typically fluent in English and speak multiple languages. Are Danish children smarter than American children? I doubt it: something else is going on.

3) Americans often demonstrate their attitude that English is superior. Right here on TH they post that the sound of Spanish makes them feel sick. When I returned to the US to go to college (after living in South America) I was met at the ship by an aunt who, overhearing me speaking Spanish as I said goodbye to shipmates, immediately warned me "Never let anyone hear you speak Spanish or they might think you are Mexican". That's attitude for you.

Remember too that John Kerry was ridiculed for knowing how to speak French and Obama has been mocked for correctly pronouncing the names of foreign countries. Why Americans don't speak other languages and even disrespect those who do is a complex and interesting question.

To steve
You ask that I answer the questions you put to Steve. Yes, I have lived abroad; I spent part of my childhood living and being raised abroad. I speak three languages. Property? My husband and I and my family own(s) and has (have) owned property overseas and so has (have) been subject to law and taxation in other countries. Yes, I have traveled a lot. Yes, I have paid VAT every time I've bought anything in a country that had it.

I'm not sure what this has to do with my belief that the Obama government is on the right track except that I gather you think that liberals don't know what they're talking about, while small-town or rural folk who have seldom, if ever, ventured beyond US borders, are experts on international social policy. I can't speak for Steve, but I'm pretty sure that my own experience has broadened my vision. Some of us believe that a nation should exist for more than people making money off each other, and bullying other nations. And I didn't call you a name.

To steve
You ask that I answer the questions you put to Steve. Yes, I have lived abroad; I spent part of my childhood living and being raised abroad. I speak three languages. Property? My husband and I and my family own(s) and has (have) owned property overseas and so has (have) been subject to law and taxation in other countries. Yes, I have traveled a lot. Yes, I have paid VAT every time I've bought anything in a country that had it.

I'm not sure what this has to do with my belief that the Obama government is on the right track except that I gather you think that liberals don't know what they're talking about, while small-town or rural folk who have seldom, if ever, ventured beyond US borders, are experts on international social policy. I can't speak for Steve, but I'm pretty sure that my own experience has broadened my vision. Some of us believe that a nation should exist for more than people making money off each other, and bullying other nations. And I didn't call you a name.

extreme article, good comments
This article's a bit extreme, but the comments are good. You guys are great; I love reading what you have to say!

It really bugs me when 'intellectuals' deride the average American for not being able to speak another language. I'm not sure that Europeans understand what a darn big place the U.S. is. I grew up smack dab in the middle of it. My folks would take us kids around the country to open our horizons. It took days and days of driving to get to Mexico and Canada, our nearest foreign countries. Forget buying plane tickets to Europe or Japan -- that was way too expensive for us!

People learn a language when they feel they will derive some benefit from it. It it were simple for us to get to Japan or Germany, we'd learn those languages. It's not so we don't. That's how life works.

Obama's Plan for Europe
It means they will do for Europe what they are doing for America! Torch it!

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LILLY
What a stupid statement about broken escalators. That is our local Chicago thug Gov't leavig things broken so they can pay off who got them elected.
The grass is not always greener. The Swiss now have 1 working person for every retired person. What do you think that gets them?

fellow traveller
You forgot to mention the homeless urinating in the street and not in any alley. What no homeless in Europe, you say? Au contrair, mon ami.

Jd's Handsome Son
Well, it certainly wouldn't be any new thing for Americans to watch Europeans drench the land with each other's blood. From Waterloo to the Somme they managed to take out quite a few million. Maybe Buchanan was right, we should have kept our efforts to the Pacific after Pearl Harbor. Hitler might well have neutralized Britain and taken out Russia. With a little luck, one of the assassination plots against Hitler would succeed and we'd have a United Europe speaking German, and the British Isles as a de facto colony.
A revolt against the muslim take over inhighly unlikely. Its the frog in the pot again. By the time the danger is clear enough to be seen by the lotus eaters, it will be too late to act. With American efficiency, and star quality worthy of American Idol, Obama hopefully will overplay his hand. But if we see him on Dancing With the Stars, all is lost.

lilly
And for those who don't want to be herded into large cities?

Also, many of us have no interest in public transportation. And those freight trains carry the goods urban dwellers need to live.

I myself like my big cars (safe), big house, big appliances, and big stores. I'm guessing that I would be in the majority in America.

Also, I like social mobility and reward for hard work. America is a country of immigrants that for the most part came here for social mobility. I know the government has tried for generations to get Americans to give up their work ethic and personal ambition, but alas there are still many of us who want personal liberty and economic freedom. We don't want a cradle to grave nanny state as we would rather take care of ourselves.

Oh Lilly,
Back for your daily beating? Conservatives don't vomit in public because they stay home to drink and when they are sick they have earned enough money to see a real doctor. So your fellow libs have trashed the Chicago subway. As for Amtrak being sidelined in favor of freight trains, how dare the needs of the many outweigh the luxuries of the few! Dirty rotten private sector providing services at YOUR imperial expense of a few minutes(not hours). As for guns, you seem to be quite eager to take away as many rights of the individual as is necessary to empower the nanny state. Why do you live in America? How many of those homeless folks do you personally feed on a regular basis? Ever bought even one of them a burger? How many businesses of yours employ those pesky homeless people? Instead your answer is to put them on the gov't dole or in gov't institutions. Your compassion is chilling. Again, why do you live in America?

Change You Can Believe In!
This is the utopia that awaits once the wealth has redistributed

Lilly

Ok, you answer my questions to steve that I posted earlier.

To Wes
We liberals who are stupid and did not go to school somehow did come up with the information that our ancestors, arriving here as early as 1620, did not come to America to escape Socialism. I am putting your post in my personal archive of Really Stupid Townhall Posts.

To Joycey
Few Europeans own cars? Right. That would be why Eisenhower got the idea for our interstate highway system from, hello, Europe. That would also be why Ferrari and Audi and Saab and Peugeot and Daimler and Citroen and Rolls Royce and BMW and Porsche and Volvo and Bentley and Volkswagen all originated in Ohio. That would be why London has had to relieve traffic congestion by imposing a tax on those driving into the city. Try driving around the Algarve in summertime and see how many Europeans own cars.

Joycey, you continue to embarrass yourself. Have you ever thought of checking with google or even Wikipedia before you speak?

If We Were Like Europe...
...It would be hell. We would be able to take a fast clean train from anywhere to anywhere else, leaving within an hour, when every Real American knows we would prefer to drive everywhere. They would arrive on time, to the second, proving yet again that government takeover is bad, because in the good old USA as we now know it, AMTRAK arrives HOURS late since passenger trains are sidelined to allow freight trains to pass---thank God that business always triumphs in our great country. Our trains would articulate with the departure of buses and boats and that would make us nervous because we would know that Someone Was Watching and that could only mean that they were coming to take away our guns.

Public facilities would be clean and functional, for example the big escalator that goes under the street into the main train station at Zurich. Terrible! Much better to have an escalator like the one in my Chicago subway station, that is broken-down and out of service half the time and looks as if somebody vomited on every step and down the wall. That allows me to walk up the stairs with my shopping cart, thus getting exercise, and the vomit reminds me of the presence fellow citizens: let's hear it for togetherness!

And our parks would be such lonely places! With our mentally ill living in government-supervised apartments and working at sheltered jobs, there would be no friendly folks camping in the park on the ground, sleeping on the benches, or starting interesting conversations asking us for money.


California is our canary
The canary in the mine that is. When the canary dies, the miners know there's something noxious in the air and they'd better get out.
If you want to see what liberal spending for unaffordable social programs looks like in America, just look at California. Bankrupt.

You are absolutely correct.
Everything you write is correct. You pay for water in the restaurant, for the biffy if nature calls, few own cars, very few own houses. Everyone rents apts and rides public transportation. You forgot to mention the VAT tax which causes little items like a bottle of water to cost $5. Everyone is equally poor or just getting by.

European countries are very small and can get away with these living conditions. America is a huge country and not everyone lives in big cities. That is why public transportation has not been wide-spread here.

Obama is already talking about a VAT tax here. How long will the masses who adore BO go along with all these higher taxes on everyone?

Interesting that the elections in Europe this week show their people moving more to the Right while we are moving solidly to the Left. Have Europeans had enough of high taxes and limited opportunities to improve their lives?

Europe is no more
Not as it once was. Europeans are not reproducing themselves fast enough to maintain their cultures. Some european countries are past the point of no return. But their muslim immigrants are reproducing and their populations are growing exponentially. And they are not culturally assimilated to be Frenchmen, Dutch or Swede.
So the Paris and Amsterndam of tomorrow may look more like Riyaddh or Kabul.

A note
Q: How many Europeans have migrated to America since 1945, compared to the number of Americans (excluding Soviet double-agents who fled prior to being arrested)?

A: the answer, several hundred thousand immigrants Europe-to-America compared to less than a thousand America-to-Europe.

If Only
If only we could believe that Europe is perhaps turning right again. Wouldn't THAT be nice?

I have been praying for a long time to see Europe descend into total, all out civil war - rightists against the communists and Islamists - with nightly scenes of massive carnage and rivers of blood in the streets, aerial photos of recently disturbed earth topped with bulldozer tracks and long refugee marches as the Muslims flee back to their homelands while they're straffed by jets. And I'd most like to see European leftists hanging from lamp posts all over that continent.

Such an awakening is desperately needed, here and there. I am optimistic that the mismanagement of the Western economies will be the breaking point which forces the much needed cleansing to get things right again.

Sadly, it takes disaster to divert America's attention from Octo-mom and John and Kate. But as long as it happens, I'm cool with it.

America Yes! Europe No!
Phineas J.
How right you are! I've been to Scotland and although I love it's country side, I have sympathy for most of the Scots who live in what we would call apartment complexes. Very little is built, but with stone. They live in very cramped quarters. But they are a lovely people who have more than likely lived all their lives like that.
I don't want to be like Europe, I don't want 43% off the top of my salary to go for health care, that leaves a lot to be desired.
America should remain sovereign yet friendly, but not tooooo friendly that we allow these politicians to try and turn us into something our forefathers tried to leave behind.

This is exactly
what the self-annointed elites want fo all of us.

What's appalling is the useful idiots who vote for them. And I'm not referring to the masses of ignorant leeches who want "free" stuff. I'm referring to the affluent urbanites and suburbanites. A great deal of their motivation for supporting the Europeanization of America is they are filled with rage at the thought of the yokels in the ex-urbs and fly-over country living in large houses and buying the same designer products etc. that they do.

They believe they are better than everyone else and as such certain lifestyles and the requisite accoutrements should be reserved for them because they are better than every one else darn it!

Joel
Man, You have GOT to start your own blog!! You articulate yourself so well, it would be a shame if you didn't.

Your post is again spot on. I was in Landstuhl and I gotta tell you that even locally, there were more Turkish Kabob Imbisses open than Schnitzel Stands and I found it disturbing.


Europeanization of America
Our ancestors didn't come to this continent to continue their old way of life. They came here, at least most of them, to create a new way of life. Something *different* from the old serfdoms of Europe. They wanted to be FREE. They then fought a long and bloody war to stop Europe from re-establishing that stranglehold on the people. Why in the name of anything one might hold Holy would we want to allow that to happen to us now?

As an answer to your question of how can people shop while at work I offer this: Once we achieve European Nirvanna we'll also share Europe's double-digit unemployment. Chances are that at least one person in each household will be unemployed. Let them earn their keep by doing the shopping, which must be done every day as it is too difficult to carry much while riding a bicycle. Well, that and those refrigerators! I've a bigger box in my little pop-up camper than what I've seen in the (admittedly) few European kitchens I have visited.

EURO-PEE-ON
These individuals that voted for their messiah, obviously did not go to school, flunked out, or were in a 100 % liberal institution with instructors from the woodstock convention and are still high on drugs. Our ancestors escaped the tyranny and oppression of socialism to this continent for freedom and the right to accomplish their full potential in life !
These " STATISTS " have been working on this for decades, you honestly can't believe they came up with all this bull$**t just since the election of the most inexperienced, naive, neo-statism in history. He is exactly what the demo-craps have been waiting for.
HERE'S A NEWS FLASH ... check out the elections that are being held in Europe today......
THE PEOPLE ARE "VOTING-OUT" the socialist politicians in England-France-Germany just to name the top three !
PAY ATTENTION AMERICA ..... even the BRITS are fed-up with their MIND-LESS EXISTENCE ! ! ! !
They had had enough of it after being oppressed for centuries, many are coming here to AMERICA (surprise) AND THEY ARE WARNING US AS TO WHAT IS COMING (pay attention America)
When we VOTE these socialists/statistics out of office in 2010 and 2012 they have the option to move to Europe (they will certainly have plenty of our money to live well on) and of course their messiah can not go to his native muslim country because of the penalty for failure (lose of head) he will most likely go to "venezuela" and live with his "HERO CHAVEZ"

PLEASE, AS AMERICANS GET OUT AND "VOTE" IN 2010 and 2012 and reclaim the COUNTRY WE LOVE !

GOD BLESS AMERICA AND ALL WHO LOVE HER

Cheers for Germany whose prime
minister told King Elect O to stuff himself at the G20 meetings and who just castigated central banks for involving themselves in day-to-day ec. decisions in a nation's ec.

Bibi prob. told the Big O that Israel will build wherever it has land.

We need to send the Big O a message that he is not a king and we are not the 17th C. peasants in France that aristocrats could ride over and never look back.

See teapartypartriots.org.

Get motivated.

I want it all....
The left loves Europe with its high taxes, high unemployment, and lowered standard of living.

And if I'm going to have to pay the European-style taxes that Uhbama wants us to pay, I want the whole package that goes along with it: 6-8 weeks of vacation a year, laughably short work days, protection from ever being fired, you know, all the perks that keep incentive and production lowered. But be careful taxeaters of the US, if the productive stop producing it's going to be YOUR standard of living that drops furthest and fastest.

Check out this blogger!
This guy is one of my favorite bloggers, and he nails this one! http://theblacksphere.blogspot.com/2009/06/obamas-inner-mu slim.html

Europe
may have voted in conservatives in the last election, but do they know what to do with their newfound power? Probably no more than their American Republican counterparts. The powerful always sell out the peons to the craftier liberal socialists. Conservatives are not willing to let heads roll, but the libs are.
The Bible says that one day we will beat our swords into plowshares. That day has not yet arrived.

KP
Indeed. Living in Europe was fun for a bit, but I like to visit it, more.
I find it difficult to deal with the people who cannot think for themselves. It is disturbing to me that so much potential is wasted and the productivity doesn't seem to change.

I lived in Germany for 2 years. 20 years later, went back to visit and found that several of the same businesses were still open. I kid you not when I tell you that there were few if any improvements.

My former secretary still lived in fixed rent housing and although Germans are very clean, it is nothing more than a run down "hood". They don't get money to repaint or fix things and wouldn't dare invest it themselves. How sad to have no desire to be better. God Bless the USA, while we still have it!

Guilt
I hope the "white guilt" population who put this man in office suffer a greater guilt after the country we once knew and loved will be destroyed. I pity all of you.

Illinois
The state of Illinois didn't give us the moooslim in the white house, the fully messed up city of Chicago did.

BrianR
Good morning, O fellow 3rd party voter.

If Obama has not raised the heat enough to make the frog jump out of the pot, the frog never will. Doubtless most of the koolaid types will not desert Obama, but the pocketbook voters, the "we want change" voters, and the "fairness" voters will. I am still pessimistic about a solid reversal, but at least its possible. Under McCain, there was no chance at all.

Re: binc
Your state gave us the moooslim in the White House. Now we're stuck with him.

Barry the big eared monkey is a schoolboy - someone who has actually never worked in his life (at a job that wasn't a govt. taxpayer funded job).

Barry's world is a world of race and gender discrimination and the search for non-violent conflict resolution. Too funny! That's what ya get for electing a wimpish, feminized, moooslim with socialist leanings.

God help the USA.

Libs
Progressives, liberals, leftists, whatever you choose to call them can have their degrees from their elite colleges but when it comes to human nature I find that they're well...dumb. They don't seem to understand that human beings are not bees.

US socialism will be more onerous
than the Eiro variety. Here's why. The Euros have been moving there over the last 100 years. They have an infrastructure in place to deal with some of the downsides. Good mass transit is in place to handle the fact that very few people can afford a car or gas to put in it. The culture and economy is set up to deal with stagflation. Affluence is a closed corporation. As Bialosky noted, only 7 per cent go to university. These are heavily legacy slots. With opportunity so limited, nepotism becomes much more of a factor. Rags to riches is an American phenomenon. Clarence Thomas, Sonia Sotomayor, Colin Powell and Bill Gates have no Euro equivalents i know of. Obama voters are doing their best to kill the golden goose.

In Italy
they charge you for each 15 amp circuit in your house and really hit you for a 20..try running A/C on that or 2 appliances at the same time.

Il Duce is a communist, his goal is to bring everyone down to one level, can't have any winners or losers...with this bum we all lose.


Steve
Just picked up his welfare check last week and is a little "high". Overlook his ignorance.

and about Euro day care . . .
A Dane told me that Danes cannot raise their own children even if they want to. Taxes are so high that there is no alternative to both parents working and putting their children in "free"(at high personal cost) day care.

My father left Denmark when the first socialist government was voted in. He did me a huge favor -- one that Obama is fast undoing.

aways glad to get back to USA
It's all true,and he didn't even mention the teeny tiny apartments that even upper middle class Europeans are consigned to.

And Europeans need flowers and parks. Only the very rich can afford to have a yard, to know the joy and pleasure of growing their own flowers and vegetables.

I'll take my big American car any day, over having to bring back groceries in a bicycle basket 5 or 6 times a week, and stuff them into a mini Euro refrigerator.

Sort of nice to visit, but I'm so glad I don't have to live there.

steve

Who are you calling a Redneck Fool?

I lived in the UK and in France. My sister still lives in France with her family.

In exactly, how many countries have you lived and worked? How many languages do you speak? Have you ever owned property overseas? Have you ever been to a socialized hospital (we don't because we go to private doctors and clinics)? Have you ever paid exhorbitant VAT, income and property taxes in Europe?

So, you get a train, but you will not be able to afford the real food in nice cafes or restaurants.

Moron "steve" 4:02am
Having returned to the United States after living 6 years in Europe, Moron Steve, I have a few questions for YOU:

1) Excatly how many over-bureaucratized countries that have "universal" health care can untangle the mess they got themselves into? (zero)

2) If your opinion of the USA is double-wide, 300 channel, 72" TV, WWF and NASCAR, why the hell don't you leave the USA and live where you think life is better? Enjoy the rain and snow...

3) Catch any TGV strikes recently? In a non-Paris-centralized country, just from where and to where and just how many damn overpriced TGVs would America require? Who will build it and how much will it cost to build? And again, just how much will the tickets cost, moron? Go back to your Luddite living.

4) Sag das nochmal auf Deutsch, du Idiot. And lose some weight yourself, while you're at it; you might have a better chance of meeting someone who would 'in theory' even WANT to have kids with you.

red neck fools
1. exactly how many countries that have tried universal health care have gone back to "pay or die" care? (zero)
2. if that is truly your opinion of Europe, please return to your 'double-wide', turn on your 300 channel, 72 inch TV and watch WWF and Nascar until your brain turns to jello
3. do you really prefer your Humvee to riding in a French TGV or other Euro bullet train? How about bowling versus the arts? Or reality TV vs. literature? McDonalds vs. real food?
4. What are the odds that you are overweight, speak only one language and had children before you travelled outside of the USA?
5. Ugly American? How about pathetic excuse for a human being? Lets hope any aliens that land on earth don't make the mistake of setting down in the USofA; they'll think some other advanced life form decided to use earth for a freakin' loony bin.

Sorry, BrianR

The thread was still empty when I finished reading the article.

Thanks for your link.

Yes, I was going to
post the same information. Here's another link to that: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/european_elections


So, it looks like even Europe is abandoning "Europeanization"!

The rest of the world, especially those countries that have already been experimenting with socialism, are all turning to the Right and voting more conservative, while WE are rushing headlong over the cliff on our Left.

What delicious irony.

Left Take Heed! - II

The Socialists, who dominated the last vote in 2004, suffered a stinging defeat, barely clinging to the No. 2 spot.

"Tonight is a very difficult evening for Socialists in many nations in Europe," said Martin Schulz, the leader of the Socialists in the European Parliament. "(We will) continue to fight for social democracy in Europe."

Far-right groups and other fringe parties gained in record low turnout estimated at 43.5 percent of 375 million eligible, reflecting widespread disenchantment with the continentwide legislature.

Britain elected its first extreme-right politician to the European Parliament, with the British National Party winning a seat in northern England's Yorkshire and the Humber district.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/EUROPEAN_ELECTIONS?S ITE=NYSAR&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT



Beware Liberals, Progressives, and Socialists. You tax, spend, borrow and grow the government and you will lose.


Left Take Heed! - I

BRUSSELS (AP) -- Conservatives scored victories in some of Europe's largest economies Sunday as voters punished left-leaning parties in European parliament elections in France, Germany and other nations.

Some right-leaning parties said the results vindicated their reluctance to spend more on company bailouts and fiscal stimulus to combat the global economic crisis.

The European Union said center-right parties were expected to take the most seats - 267 - in the 736-member parliament. Center-left parties were headed for 159 seats. The remainder were expected to go to smaller groupings.

Right-leaning governments were ahead of the opposition in Germany, France, Italy and Belgium, while conservative opposition parties were leading in Britain and Spain.

The Social Democrats got an unexpectedly dismal 20.8 percent - the party's worst showing since World War II in any nationwide election.

French President Nicolas Sarkozy's governing conservatives trounced the Socialists, while an ecology-minded party vaulted to a surprisingly strong third place, according to official results.
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