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Sunday, October 12, 2008
George Will :: Townhall.com Columnist
Term Limits Aren't Appropriate in "Tough Times"?
by George Will
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WASHINGTON -- Unimpressed by Charles de Gaulle's droll observation that the graveyards are full of indispensable men, Michael Bloomberg, New York City's 108th mayor, has decided that he is indispensable. So the law limiting mayors to two terms must be revised to allow three terms.

"It's not that anyone is indispensable," said Bloomberg when announcing that the term-limits law, which was enacted by referendum and then reaffirmed by a second referendum, is an intolerable impediment to his continuing as mayor for another four years in what he calls "tough times." He was referring to Wall Street's troubles, which will shrink the city government's revenues. But the times were always in some ways tough for each of Bloomberg's 107 predecessors.

Advocates of term limits argue neither that political talent is irrelevant nor that it is ubiquitous. Rather, they argue that talent is not so scarce that the benefits of rotation in office must be sacrificed in order to prolong indefinitely a talented person's tenure in office. And they argue that the benefits of churning the talent pool exceed the costs of limiting tenures.

Bloomberg's supporters say term limits are undemocratic -- but also that the City Council should alter the limits (which apply to council members) by statute rather than submit the change to a public referendum. To the charge that term limits are undemocratic, the answer, in Palinspeak, is, "You betcha." That is, they are as undemocratic as, say, the First Amendment, which begins with the most lovely five words in the English language -- "Congress shall make no law." The amendment lists some things that the people's elected representatives cannot do even if the people want them done, such as abridge freedom of speech, or legislate the establishment of religion.

Last month, in a front-page story headlined "Across Country, New Challenges to Term Limits," The New York Times, which dislikes term limits as heartily as it likes Bloomberg, reported, without even a soupcon of irony, this:

"A decade after communities around the country adopted term limits to force entrenched politicians from office, at least two dozen local governments are suffering from a case of buyer's remorse, with legislative bodies from New York City to Tacoma, Wash., trying to overturn or tweak the laws."

Good grief. These legislative bodies, including state legislatures, are largely filled with politicians eager to become entrenched. And these bodies never did "buy" term limits. Limits were imposed on them.

The Times reported gravely that term limits force legislators "to gravitate toward small-bore projects that can be done quickly, rather than anything visionary that would take years to achieve." Disregard the dubious idea that "visionary" legislatures are desirable, and disregard the fact that term limits always allow legislators to serve for "years" -- usually at least six and often eight or more. But consider the Times' supposedly alarming example of Tacoma Councilwoman Connie Ladenburg.

Now in her second four-year term, she advocates something that the Times presumably considers visionary and not a bit small-bore -- a $2 million pedestrian and bike trail. Ladenburg lamented to the Times that she thinks "this is crazy" because, "If I go away, and it's not completed, what will happen?" Well, either the trail will be completed or it won't. Presumably, if the good people of Tacoma want it, it will be, in which case she will not have been indispensable, which will also be true if they do not want it completed.

The Times dutifully reported that 37 governors, 15 state legislatures and nine of the 10 most populous cities have term limits, which remain popular with the people who imposed them: "Recent ballot initiatives to alter them, including one in California in February, have failed."

Two amusing arguments against term limits are that political novices are too susceptible to the wiles of lobbyists, and that term-limited legislators, worrying too much about their next jobs and too little about their current ones, are constantly in campaign mode, thinking of the next election rather than the next generation. The idea that when term limits are absent, these difficulties are absent is refuted by one word: Congress.

"Make no mistake about it," said Bloomberg when announcing his intention to revise the law without seeking the permission of the public that enacted it, "I still think term limits are a good thing." Just not for him, not now, in these "tough times." Yet again, the political class' reaction to term limits is a powerful, indeed sufficient argument for them.

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Welcome to Communism
First our representatives ignored the will of the people on immigration enforcement and then they ignored the will of the people with the financial bailout. Then the federal government decided to go into the business of buying banks. Now "no limits on terms in office" is being suggested as a solution to problems that have been caused by their meddling in private business matters. We no longer live in freedom.
The ruling elite is taking charge of our lives whether we damn well like it or not.
America...land of freeloaders and home of depraved politicians.

Andy Eppink
Dang. Will excoriating a lib... What's going on here Geo.? Kind of out of character, at least recently. Keep this up and the Post is going to dock your pay some.

Andy Eppink
"The amendment lists some things that the people's elected representatives cannot do even if the people want them done, such as abridge freedom of speech, or legislate the establishment of religion."

Oh, give me a break Geo. That consideration didn't seem to slow down Feingold and McCain much nor does it seem to slow down the lib elements of the supremes and the judiciary generally in their role as ACLU adjuncts in their establishing of an American secular religion.

Give me a break Geo.
Who you trying to bs this time (pls.pardon the language)?

Bob Dylan said...
"Fearing not that I’d become my enemy in the instant that I preach."

There is a point in pursuing a project or an agenda when you want to break the rules or lie a bit in order to achieve what you want, and it is a powerful temptation. And then you begin to believe that the ends justify the means. At this point, you've become the very thing you may have fought hard not to be. It's based on pride; the belief that you know what's best, and it's also adorned with the belief that you can and need to be in control, and thus by your action you are achieving a greater good.

Millions have been murdered because of this.

To people who....
...look at politicians as potential prophets, messiahs and/or parents, i.e., people who vote Democrat, ending term limits would be akin to perpetual bliss. Everyone would be poor, but oh, the free stuff!



Amendment 22
Our founders never considered term limits into the Constitution, although they supported making George Washington, president for life. But that was shot down by George Washington and Article 2 and the 12th Amendment outlined the functions and rules of electing the president. Later our Congress and by referendum adopted the 22nd Amendmentin 1947 limiting the president to two elected terms. As long as the people supported the limits by referendum, it was deemed constitutional. Those politicians ought to let it alone and accept term limits as the will of their state. Wonder why we can't get one for the U.S. Congress? It's obvious why we can't.

Term Limits
A big part of the problems in this country can be because of the absence of term limits. It is ridiculous that ANYONE can be in Congress for thirty or forty years -- or more. The accumulated power of people who have lifetime "jobs" is harmful. Obama calls himself "an employee of the federal government. Funny -- I thought he was "employed" by our citizenry.

Wayfinder.
At first read, what you wrote sounds pretty good, and cautionary, but sometimes we'll just never know. Because, sometimes that process you disparage has also ended the murder of millions.

Nobility is wonderful, when it works. Yet sometimes, human nature being what it is, other means have also been found useful and effective.

You and I do agree, however, that Bob Dylan is worth quoting.

It's all about them
Bloomberg's case shows me that the office of mayor is all about him - his power, his prestige, his record, his being in the center of all things great and good. But does Bloomberg's attitude crowd out the realization that he serves on behalf of the people? It must do, which is why he argues that it is necessary to subvert the people's will to serve them.

I suspect the longer a politician stays in office, the more about him or her the office becomes and the less about serving the people. For me, this effect provides the primary reason We the People must impose term limits on every elected office in America, including judges.

term limits
Why has no one (that I've heard) mention the fact that when Mayor Rudy Guiliani offered to stay on awhile to help with the 9-11 mess Mayor-to-be Bloomberg said it wasn't necessary or wanted? He wanted to get in there as soon as he could.

Why are people marking this
column low? I thought all liked term limits.

Term Limits
What we actually need is term limits for all the congressmen AND their staff. In addition, we need term limits for all the bureaucrats actually running the government.

ANDREW JACKSON MCCAIN
Excerpt from John McCain, Hero of Destiny

"Assuming that John McCain wins the White House in November he will be the third President in U.S. history to have been taken captive by an enemy and held as a prisoner of war. The second President-after Washington-was the great military hero Andrew Jackson who was captured by the British at age 13 in the Revolutionary War where he served as a courier with his younger brother. Like McCain Jackson was defiant with his captors and like McCain he suffered brutally at their hands receiving sword wounds to his body and nearly dying from starvation and disease.

If McCain is elected President, which I believe will happen, then like Jackson, who succeeded John Quincy Adams, he will succeed the son of a former President who formerly was his rival for the presidency and belonged to the same party (the Democratic-Republican Party). Moreover, if McCain wins the race then like Jackson his election will occur in a year that ends in the number 8: for Jackson beat Adam’s in the 28th year of the 19th century, as
McCain would win in 2008 (the number 28 expanded)........."

Click ApolloSpeaks and read more about the striking analogies between Jackson and McCain in "John McCain, Hero of Destiny: Signs of Republican Victory."

Term Limits
In Maine, which has had term limits for the governor for eons, enacted term limits for legislators no more than a couple decades ago.

The result has been a game of musical chairs where at worst a lawmaker sits out two years and then, for example, if a former state representative, runs for a vacant termed out Senate seat.

It has lead, as retired Massachusetts Senate President William M. Bulger predicted when leading a successful battle against them in his state, to more power for lobbyists and staff.

The only reason Bloomberg wants a
Third term is because he believes that Obama will be president and will appoint radical left judges to SCOTUS which will retract the ruling on the 2nd Amendment being an individual right. That way Bloomberg's Mayors Against Guns group can further it's agenda with Obama's 500% taxes on guns or ammo or to completely disarm the American People so Obama's hitleresque "citizens army" can raid our homes and "get in our faces."
Next we'll hear how Obama's going to take our kids away and force them into a "government" run school system (no more school choice folks) and indoctrinate them into Ayers radical ideas and it'll be run by people like Rev. Wright and the kids will come home saying "g*d damn America" instead of "I pledge allegiance ...One nation under god...
People need to wake up.
Birds of a feather flock together so Obama and Bloomberg right on track at destroying our libertys
The UK spectator had a great article check it out here about Obama and his socialist agenda.
SEE THE PROOF that MSM won't show
http://www.spectator.co.uk/melaniephillips/2212386/an-abse nce-of-candour-to-believe-in.thtml

keep the term limits
If we didn't have them, there would never be an end to this horrible Bush. Historians consider him the worst president ever, if you don't agree, then you haven't looked at your 401K lately.

A modest proposal
If you can't get term limits, simply vote against every incumbent every time and try to persuade others to do likewise. What do we have to lose? It's hard to imagine that a Congress of novices could've made a worse hash of things than the veterans have made.

Indeed, remorselessly evicting incumbents is probably a good strategy even where term limits are in effect.

Victoria lets the party out of her head
"If we didn't have them, there would never be an end to this horrible Bush."

Bush-Derangement Syndrome is more horrible. We can't just vote it out of office.

beverly 2:56AM
Very good point.

Best argument for term limits=FDR
FDR also thought he was the 'indespensable man.' Of course, he got sicker and sicker in office, but his cronies and the bum-kissing media of the time wouldn't inform the plebeians, so in his weakened state he allowed Uncle Joe Stalin to have his way with Europe.

Bloomberg should just do what Putin has done, put in a useful idiot of a puppet. A government that can outlaw you from eating transfats has too much time on its hands, and will try to infringe all civil liberties, usually citing the good 'of the children.'

Apollo,

Stop waving your pom-poms for andy jaxon. i hope mccain is nothing like him. He slaughtered and otherwise abused native Americans with reckless abandon. He slandered the infinitely more qualified JQAdams and Henry Clay. Worst of all, he cofounded the demon-crap party. nuff said.

Tough Times?
Always there can be made a case for some sort of tough times...the idea that the government rather than the individual is responible for his own "times" is perpetuated by Bloomberg suppporters and those other non-term limit advocates...

TERM LIMITS
I wish term limits were in effect for every elected official- federal, state, and local. In the beginning of this Republic, known as the United States of America, legislators and even the President performed these duties not as a job or career but as a service. After the term, they went back to planting, writing, law, or what ever they were doing before office. With short lengths of stay for office holders, pork and lobbyists would have less sway over legislative activities and congress would stay one of the people instead of being elevated and anointed as a career in the political arena. Maybe term limits should be imposed by the voters, but everyone thinks their congressman or senator is doing fine. I guess that is the shame of it all- we send them back because they provide the pork at the feeding trough and continue to be re-elected. Too bad- we will pay dearly in the long term

Stalin didn't believe in term limits.
Neither did Mao and look how effective they were during their respective reigns of terror.

Hugo Chavez, Kim Jong Ill, Vlad Putin, Mummar Kadafy, Saddam Hussein, Bashur Assahd, and the Castro brothers all have squashed "term limits." That puts Bloomberg in some dubious company and what makes him think he is any more dispensable than Guilianni, probably the greatest mayor of NYC, ever? I agree with George Will; it isn't about the job, it's about Bloomberg's huge ego.

For many years I was against term limits, trusting that the voter would get rid of the bad and keep the good. HAH!! I'm now convinced said voters are TOO STUPID or TOO LAZY, because here I sit in a city and county run by embedded, liberal dhimmicrats with the help of a few RINO's. And my Congressman for life, Raul "superMex" Grijalva is going to serve til he dies, then his wife, brother or cousin will pick up his torch and labor liberally on.

I only have a few years before I retire, or so I thought. Because of corrupt bureaucrats and crooked Congressmen, my retirement accounts are down 25%, so far. Bush and McCain could have prevented this whole debacle, but both are into this "new tone/my friend" BS, and let the criminal dhimmicrats and entrenched political machine in DC roll over them.

I'm still not convinced term limits are the answer- these crooks would simply accelerate their assaults on our constitutional rights and pocket books so when their terms were up, they'd have their golden parachutes in place.

Yet, no decent person will try for office. Look what they did to a good and moral George Bush and are trying to do to Sarah Palin?

We are a sick nation, and if we elect Obama, we may well be terminal.

Hmmm...
1. Where was Bloomberg BEFORE it hit the fan?

2. No term limits for Congress gave us: Barney Frank, Teddy K., Slow Joe Biden, Duncy Pelosi.

3. Even though the "approval rating" of Congress is something like one percent, almost all the incumbents will be returned, as the Founders spin in their graves.

Jeffersen believed in Limits
Jeffersen wrote of his likes and dislikes on the new constituton Madison was working on, and more than once about the absence of term limits. This particular passage was in a letter to James Madison from Paris date Dec 20, 1787:

" The second feature I dislike, and greatly dislike, is the abandonment in every instance of the necessity of rotation in office, and most particularly in the case of the President. Experience concurs with reason in concluding that the first magistrate will always be re-elected if the Constitution permits it. He is then an officer for life."

Kent is correct that by example Washington set a precedent, as he did many for the office, but term limits was very much on Mr. Jefferson's mind and Mr. Madison among others were aware of it.

(His other objection to the rough was the absence of a bill of rights)

As Jefferson so keenly observed over 200 years ago, people will not vote the bums out. This year looks to be no exception. If I have ever seen politicians that deserved to be voted out of office, it would be Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, and Maxine Waters, and I bet it won't happen, not even close.

Whoa !!!

"Bloomberg's supporters say term limits are undemocratic"
------------------------------------------

I'm sure they will say the same thing about Barack Obama... Rules should never apply to Democrats (Dictators).

Scary Times, no?

Just the opposite
How can an incumbent declare they should be there to clean up the mess? They were there when the mess was created. The only incumbent who could be using this argument is one who at then end of his last legal term has no mess that needs cleaning up.

Gerrymandering

With gerrymandering term limits is the only way to develop depth in leadership of the controlling party. With the growth of gov't that will increasingly be Democrat and socialist, crushing America under redistribution of wealth, robbing us of the innovative, creative work ethic which has made America great.

The parasites win.

Bloomberg is a Shmuck, A Con.
He has been operating outside the law for so long now, he thinks he can sidestep the voters. He has no regard for the law or the will of the people as can be seen in his onslaught of the Second Amendment and the Constitution. He has a judge in his billionaire pocket and thinks nothing of the law. He should be thrown out on his ear, kicked to the curb and caned on his way out of town.

The care and feeding.....
...of bloated and diseased egos demands the elimination of term limits.

A majority of voters today tend to vote in an illogical and self-destructive fashion so a "Potentates Forever" bill just might be on the ballot soon.

Apply rule 303
The best term limit is to stand them all against the wall.

Obama delenda est.

Belle Starr
You forgot Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid too.

George Will is a problem
George Will is a sell out and a member if CFR, thinks the constitution is out dated. Doesn't want term limits in tough times so the crooks can stay in office. He is part of the media problem being bought out. Wake up people you need people like Ron Paul who care about your personnel freedom and balanced budgets. The terrorists are in the government now, both parties. I'm a conservative.

Fred

Will's words
Retaining his usual splendor with a pen and providing words to stimulate thought on a topic, Will has done an excellent job at bringing a situation before us that warrants our consideration.

The Interesting Thing About Term Limits
Is that most people want them to apply to the other guys' elected officials. No one seems to want them to apply to their own elected officials. If people would study the issues and vote accordingly, term limits would never be needed. But, I guess that is too much trouble for the American electorate.

other provisions i like(or would)
Term limits are effective, In my former local area within 2 terms of their imposition the budget for our municipality balanced easily and a half cent of sales tax was removed(it was originally temporary for a specific project but became permanent as these things always do). Now I am in a new area with the dubious distinction of reelecting entrenched politicians even as they are on trial or under indictment with a strong likelihood of conviction yet it appears the latest of these will likely be sent back to Washington( he of the funny idea of "cold storage") this because congress uses seniority to determine committee assignments and the more powerful ones would be denied a freshman, as his side argues. If congress were subject to term limits by federal law the pecking order would be different and that disturbs some pols greatly.Anything that disturbs or discomfits politicians I viscerally favor. While I have not seen data my anecdotal evidence indicates that term limits have a shrinking effect on government which argues even more strongly for their implementation for all pol office.

Fred?

"Doesn't want term limits in tough times so the crooks can stay in office."

Uh, did you read the column past the headline?

Term Limits
Yeah, and besides, term limits are good enuff for the Executive Branch, why not for the other two branches as well!! Proceed!!

Nasty Solution
Term limits don't work because *we* keep re-electing encumbants.

Maybe an opportunity comes as we swing to the Left in our politics, that we will need, in order to preserve our liberties, economic and public if not political, we need to get serious about barter and black market. Eventually, if successful, the governing class will govern over some ossified portions of society, wondering how the rest of us still have our wealth and means. Why? Because they'll have no authority over it.

Hopefully during this era of anarchy, the outside forces will not move to eat us up. Which they will, sure as we re-elect over and over again.

Kinda reminds me of that "modest proposal" of the 19th century.

Q: Who said it?
"We already have term limits (dramatic pause) - they're called elections."

A: President Josiah Bartlet

Not only are they appropriate...
...but I think we should have more of 'em.

In Congress.

As quickly as possible.

Not only should Bloomberg have to hold to his lawful limit, but all of our Senators and Congressmen and women should be required to step down after 2 to 3 terms also. (Maybe 4-5 in the House).

Otherwise, they get too comfortable at being a politician instead of committing to the job that they were sent to do.

Term Limits
I surely do not think there should be "term limits" past those that are in the constitution. Our vote should effectively take care of that problem, if indeed, there is a problem.

Reelection Not An Obligation
It's laughable how these politicians lament that once in office, they're obliged to think about running for reelection or the next office up on the totem pole. None of these politicians are obligated to run for re-election. Go to (your state capitol) or Washington, use the two, four or six years to do what you want to do, and then go back home and return to your former career. Oh yeah... government is your career.

George Will
I can't believe you haven't figured out yet that the elitists know what is best for us and in order to implement what is best they have to do away with term limits.

Bloomberg is not the first to try this garbage and if elected Obama will be the next to try it.

Goodbye Sweet America!

One other take
Term limits could simply be "no consecutive terms". Lifers could still "serve" for life, or rule if you're more honest with terms. But only about half the duration as is presently the norm.

Just not for him, not now
That has been the plea of dictators the world over.

Term limits necessary evil
Just because I may believe a person is doing a great job in office, does not mean at the end of his term the person elected to fill the position vacated can not do a great job also. I am in favor of twelve years term limits for members of Congress. Six terms in the House of Representatives or two terms in the Senate or a combination of three terms in the House and one term in the Senate. To breakup the Washington elitism they must face removal. It is necessary to cap the benefits of all Congression, it staff and civil servants including the justice department and courts also. Term limits should not be just for political office holders, other civil servants in positions of public trust should also be limited to the time served in a certain position and with a certain department.

THANK GOODNESS!!!
there is a term limit on US presidents. Any more of SpongeBush would be lethal... but not to Osama Bin Laden.

term limit
I think that no one is should feel that they can do it all. Mayor Blumberg had his time and it's time to move aside. He had two terms to take care of business and all he thought about was make a new stadium for the jets leave them where they want to be in New Jersy. He should think about the blue collar worker in NYC. I was born and raised in the city and I go there every weekend to take care of my mother and sister's. I would move back but I cannot afford the rent. Who's idea is it to make Condo's all over.

Isabel Lopez-Wiener (Lizzie)

VOTER PLEDGE TO APPLY TERM LIMITS:
We the people of the USA after generaltions of suffering the outright dereliction of duties on the part of the Congress of the USA are compelled to take action to eliminate the Congress by application of our constitutional right to vote them out of office and restore the intent of our founding fathers to endow the people with the legal process of the ballot....
Thus we will be overriding the rejection of the Congress to limit their term of office and will apply "instant term limits" in all current and future elections. Peter, NH

Term Limit Congress
Applying term limits to Congress is the only way we can "fix" Washington. Until we get a constitutional amendment imposing term limits, we must impose them by voting the incumbents out. The truth is that the Presidential pick is not as important as getting rid of this congress. Her majesty, Nancy Pelosi, needs to go. Barney Frank needs to go. Chris Dodd, Harry Reid need to go. I don't mean to only pick on Democrats, but these people were particularly bad during the bailout discussions. Frank needs to be in jail.
We must all vote them out regardless of our party affiliations.

Leadership
True leaders understand that they are there to serve.

Liberals like Bloomberg and Obama believe they are there to be served.

Watch what they do and not what they say.

George, this video is a must see for U
http://www.usawakeup.org/USSA.htm>

Don Jones
PoeSpirits.com

Webster couldn't say it better
Ha, ha. Michael Bloomberg declares that term limits are a good idea, just not for him.

And that, ladies and gentlemen, is the dictionary definition of a hypocrite.

Of course,
If you look up “megalomaniac” in the dictionary, the odds are pretty good that you’ll find Bloomberg’s picture there, too.

my 2 cents
With the most important election in our history coming up in three+ weeks, let's see how many people turn out. If it is 60% I will be delighted no matter who wins.

Elections are won by those who turn out. If you don't vote don't b=+*&!

Voting is not only a right it's a responsibility and not exercising that right is a slap in the face to those who gave their lives so you could do it.

Terms limits and a balanced budget...
amendment would get rid of 90% of the federal government's problems. If the feds need to handle an "emergency" like fighting a war, they can do what congress did when Harry T. went to war in Korea; go to the drawing board and figure out where to cut other spending to make up the difference.

To Keep a Republic
Term limits help keep a republic. Especially in "hard" times, a citizenry needs to know that they themselves will have to solve problems, and not some talented strongman.

In ancient Rome, the people kept a form of representative government for several centuries. Then times got hard, and they were willing for Marius, the "people's man" to ignore term limits and serve as consul for about seven terms. This led to a reactionary takeover by Sulla, the dictatorship of Julius Caesar, and the permanent loss of the republic under Caesar's nephew, the emperor Augustus.

If the US wishes to become an empire rather than a republic, failing to impose term limits is an effective start.

George Will
writes, "Yet again, the political class' reaction to term limits is a powerful, indeed sufficient argument for them."

Well said. Excellent column George. I think he is just testing the waters for the 'One'. If people can be made insecure enough, they will invariably relinquish their freedom to a tyrant. The very policies designed to promote misery and dependency by the democratic party will also help to bring about tyranny and, it is not by accident.

The problem is never that times are too tough to elect someone new, it is that there are not enough limits, which in turn, makes for tough times. More freedom creates more prosperity and less need for politicians. Fear is used by all politicians everywhere in an attempt to maintain the power and privilege to which they become accustomed. It certainly seems apparent that too many Americans are more than willing to have a king or other dictatorial tyrant. I can't wait for the MSM to begin arguing for lifetime tenure for the 'One' assuming he is elected.

executive vs legislative limits
There should also be a distinction made between executive and legislative term limits. Turn-over of the executive is necessary because there is only one individual and too long in the position ossifies that position (see FDR). Even with long tenures and lots of power (e.g., Sam Rayburn in the House, LBJ in Senate, Willie Brown in CA Assembly) there is a dilution and turnover by attrition.

Isaldur has it right. Term limits are a blunt instrument to get rid of the OTHER guy's legislator. And a termed-out legislator has free rein to has NO interest in his constituents. Mr Will mentions it but doesn't really address it. A legislator, in his last term, has only his OWN interests at heart and will cozy up to the special interest group that will give him that golden parachute upon exiting.

Much better than term-limits would be fix the gerrymandering. That way the legislator must face his constituents and will have real competition. I would also prefer measures that would limit the damage they can cause us; maybe maximum of 3 months per year in session?

San Antonio, too
Bloomberg sounds just like the current mayor of San Antonio. He was for term limits until his own time ran out. Now he commiserates with the likes of Ms. Ladenburg of Tacoma, making the same specious claims about unfinished projects.

Electorates resort to term limits out of justifiable desperation. It's damage control. They might not have become so prevalent or necessary had city after city not carved itself up into fiefdoms (districts). Here, voters can only "vote out" one-tenth of the problem (ten districts), so we imposed term limits to get rid of the ones we can't otherwise affect.
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