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Friday, January 23, 2009
David Limbaugh :: Townhall.com Columnist
They're Poor Winners, Too
by David Limbaugh
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Leftists are always lecturing Republicans and conservatives on the importance of civility and bipartisanship yet revealing, whether winner or losing, that they are the ones who need lessons in manners and collegiality.

If you aren't convinced of the left's nonpareil arrogance and nastiness from observing their behavior toward President Bush and Vice President Cheney for the past eight years, then contrast the behavior of Mr. Bush's staff leaving office and that of Mr. Clinton's, who literally trashed the White House like juvenile delinquents.

Fast-forwarding to this week, did you see Obama supporters booing President Bush at the inauguration, singing, "Na, na, na, na, hey, hey, hey, goodbye"? Pure class.

The Washington Times reported that these same Obama supporters mocked Mr. Cheney "with derisive laughter when he appeared on huge TV screens by the Capitol grounds, rolling down a ramp in a wheelchair after suffering a back injury moving out of his Naval Observatory home. 'Good riddance!' one man yelled."

Nor was it just rude mobs at the parade. "Hardball" host Chris Matthews wasn't content to bask in his euphoria over Obama's assumption of office. Like many of his colleagues, he needed to kick Bush as he was going out the door. "There'll be no more bullying of the world, no more acting like one of the bad guys on occasion. We're going to try again to be the good guy of the world and to get along with our fellow democracies. It is a dramatic change that's to come." Dramatic, indeed, Chris.

Then we saw the surviving Dean of Network Broadcasters, Tom Brokaw, tackily, nay, sadistically remarking, "It's unfortunate for Vice President Cheney to have had this accident, obviously, because there will be those who don't like him who will be writing tomorrow that he had a Dr. Strangelove appearance as he appeared today in his wheelchair." Well, Tom, the only writing about this I've seen is in reference to your snide comment.

In case you think this was uncharacteristic of Brokaw's general attitude, then perhaps you didn't hear about his other comparison. NewsBusters reported that he likened the mood of the inauguration crowd to what he'd observed at the fall of the Communist regime in Czechoslovakia. "It reminds me of the Velvet Revolution," he said. While he "charitably" conceded that Bush's administration was not a communist regime that had been overthrown, he remarked, "An unpopular president is leaving, and people have been waiting for this moment. And there's that same sense of joyfulness and possibility, even though, as in Czechoslovakia, they had enormous problems, and we do, as well." (And these clowns accuse my brother of being over-the-top.)

If you have a particular masochistic streak and want to overdose on the liberal media's bias, run a quick LexisNexis search and read the comments from "journalists" accompanying the inauguration of President George W. Bush or Ronald Reagan. Ann Coulter's recent column contained a few choice examples.

One might think the new post-partisan president himself would have broken from this trend and exuded the singular kind of collegiality for which he is celebrated. But in the midst of his lofty speech, he couldn't pass up a few digs at the exiting administration, either: "The time has come to set aside childish things. … Our time of standing pat, of protecting narrow interests and putting off unpleasant decisions, that time has surely passed."

Obama also couldn't resist a jab at the knuckle-dragging science-averse, apparently for failing to swallow the left's uncompromising faith-based opinion, which has come under increasing scientific challenge (31,000-plus scientists and counting), that human activities are leading to apocalyptic global warming. "We will restore science to its rightful place," he said. I assume "its rightful place" is in service to leftist propaganda.

Unfortunately, this superior, blame-assigning attitude was not just inaugural rhetoric; it has made its way onto the new White House agenda Web site. Under "Katrina," it boasts: "President Obama will keep the broken promises made by President Bush to rebuild New Orleans and the Gulf Coast. He and Vice President Biden will take steps to ensure that the federal government will never again allow such catastrophic failures in emergency planning and response to occur." They also take a shot at the Bush administration on military contracts. They will "develop a strategy for determining when contracting makes sense, rather than continually handing off governmental jobs to well-connected companies."

For further proof of how bipartisanship and tolerance will work under Democratic rule, just read the news, hot off the presses, of Connecticut Democrats demanding an apology from Sen. Joe Lieberman for criticizing and failing to support Obama.

As events of the past week have shown, liberals are every bit as bad at winning as they are at losing.

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David Limbaugh, brother of radio talk-show host Rush Limbaugh, is an expert in law and politics and author of Bankrupt: The Intellectual and Moral Bankruptcy of Today's Democratic Party.
 
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David L. Poor Losers Too
Great article and please keep it flowing during his, I hope, brief presidency!! It's people like you and that other Limbaugh guy who keeps us informed...

Denise
Go back and slowly read my posts. You seemed to totally miss my point on owning guns and the often loony arguments of the gun rights nuts.

The recent Heller ruling has absolutley nothing to do with what I was saying or what my point might be.


USPatriot56
In your Jan. 24, 10:40 AM EST post you say this so positively “that honor [of being the first US President not a natural born citizen] goes to Chester Arthur.” The evidence, however, in the cite you provide for support is so muddled, almost as muddled as Obama’s “exotic background.” That is the brief phrase by which Obama tried to explain away his entire life in The Audacity of Hope, p. 120, up to the point of that book’s publication.
Further Obama’s exotic background and often conflicting “campaign rhetoric” as he called it last week is far different from Chester Arthur’s – “The son of a Baptist preacher who had emigrated from northern Ireland, Arthur was born in Fairfield, Vermont, in 1829. He was graduated from Union College in 1848, taught school, was admitted to the bar, and practiced law in New York City. Early in the Civil War he served as Quartermaster General of the State of New York. President Grant in 1871 appointed him Collector of the Port of New York. Arthur was honorable in his personal life and public career (Presidential Biographies).”
Given all we have been told by Obama, his campaign and the in-the-tank, thrill-up-the-leg media about Obama, truth is difficult at best to know of Obama. Even his pleas for everyone to dismiss his “campaign rhetoric last week plus “move forward not looking back (published and aired media interviews),” and to “put away childish things (inaugural speech)” sound contrived and raise suspicions.
Some pertinent questions: Was Arthur ever questioned about let alone sued to provide evidence of his Constitutional eligibility for President while running for President or during his Presidency? Did Arthur refuse to provide such evidence at great expense in lawyer’s fees and cost of court proceedings to himself, states and the nation?
Over to you, USPatriot56, for any further evidence or comments.

Inane, grossly hypocritical left.
1) They want transparancy, yet concealed Obama.
2) They want a clean earth. Yet trash every area they gather in.
3) They want peace & unity. Yet attack & assault free citizens, deface private property, of those who - during the primary - preferred a different candidate, voted differently on prop 8, or publically showed support for a candidate outside their party.
4) They strive for equality and tolerence. (See #3)
5) They want bi-partisanship & unity. Yet openly loathe those not affilaited w/DNC.
6) They claim to hate personal attacks & despise mean-spirited name-calling. Yet for decades have called Christians, Jews, Conservatives, Republicans, Mormons, & Home Schoolers mean-spirited names, hurling very personal attacks.
7) They insist the office of Presidency be respected. Yet tore apart a sitting President for 8 years, denouncing his legitamacy, then showered him with unheard of disrespect, for a civilized society, at his departure.
8) They claim pols families should be immune & gaurded from attacks. Yet mocked the Bush children, attacked Cindy McCain, & decimated Palins children and husband. Going as far as outright slander and issuing the basest of commentary, including death wishes.
9) They oppose the death penalty for the most violent criminals because they value life. Yet sponsor wholesale slaughter of infants, both the physically under-developed as well as fully developed.
10) They fight for freedom of speech & expression. Yet issue lawsuits against those who express their faith & write bills that shut down dissenting opinions.
11) They fight for their right to publicly spew obscenities. Yet sue to remove the 10 commandments from public sight.

These contradictory liberal comparisons can be made all day long with room left over. Bottom line, libs need to grow up & learn in a true just & free society, the same rights & priveldges apply to all equally.

poor winners
to all the Tom Brokaws and Chris Matthews in the media, you have just joined the elite hall of fame with Mr.Joe Biden as,"how many stupid and nonitelligent things can we say in public" catagory. as long our government continues to fight as children and disrespect each others office in public, the world is watching and waiting for that right moment to strike. my dad and mon always told us as children, that what happens at our home stays @ home. or maybe you better understand if you were not taught @ home, that what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. "a house divided against itself cannot stand". i read this in a Book on the best selling list.

childish democratic ways
Oh the democrats have a long history of childish ways beyond that of trashing the white house when bush took office.

I know when Mike Huckabee took the Governors office the democrats nailed his door shut from the inside and trashed the desk beyond recognition.

Pure class those dems are!

Well-until this one,,,
Wonder why?

Where did my posts go?
I've posted here several times--and not once has any of my comments gotten past the "it will be a few minutes until it appears" note.
I wonder why so few people actually appear here--over and over?
I made thoughtful, carefully worded and correctly spelled comments--you'd think that at least they'd be printed...

Thank you President Bush
No amount of hate or profanity will change how I feel about President Bush and how he kept me and my family safe. So all you leftys that want to bash me or him are only getting your own blood pressure up to no avail. The booing was absolutely uncalled for, but alas the 'freedom of speech' tends to bring the idiots out in droves. At least it reveals the stupidity of most who use it without respect or class. I find it amusing that those who continue the boo's and the bashing want to desecrate what should be a high time in their history into nasty hate and violence. If your comeback is that you believe Bush cause so much violence that he deserves yours, then you are making yourselves just as bad as you believe he is. Where exactly is the logic in that?

The future, however will reveal the whole "Bush Lied" thing was actually fabricated by the democrats in 2006 to win the presidency. The democrats will do their best to pull the wool over American's eyes to keep the presidential seat past 2012 as well. I can only hope and pray that good Americans will wake up eventually to see the deceit and lies they have been fed for too long. In the meantime, I will support our current president and speak up when I believe he is wrong. It is how our great nation works.

So true and typical...
I have been following politics for over 40 years and this stuff is so typical its almost second nature not to even think about it. The RINOS in Congress have for years kissed the as--- of the left whenever the left was in power while the left has gone full bore hate with the right. I believe it is fundamentally a situation where the world views of the two sides come into sharp contrast. The left by its very nature is more power hungry than the right. Thats not to say that the right isn't also power hungry-but just not to the same extent- not as willing usually to street fight as hard. Also, the right tends to adhere to Judeo-Christian morality and therefore mocking is considered quite over the top in their world. The left (especially now) embodies the old soviet style political strategy in that they obfuscate and change the subject on issues and go in for the ad hominem attack as an effective strategy. Couple that with post modern thought processes of "truth is what we decide it is-regardless of facts" (and we will make up the facts as we go along-ie: hundreds upon hundreds of thousands of Iraqi civilians dead when in reality...) and you have a perfect recipe. Finally, remember- Obama is a disciple of Saul Alinski's "Rules for Radicals" which would make Machiavelli blush.

Obama did NOT win...
How ironic that the guy who is NOT a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN - maybe not a citizen at all - maybe not even legally named BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA - was so worried about saying the OATH OF OFFICE correctly....

Maybe he and the Chief Justice should be jaut as concerned about CONSTITUTIONALLY REQUIRED Natural Born Citizenship requirement as they are about the CONSTITUTIONALLY REQUIRED oath of office ...

As it is ... NO "REGULAR" AMERICAN HAS ACTUALLY SEEN OBAMA SWORN IN AS POTUS ...

AND NO REGULAR AMERICAN ONE HAS ACTUALLY SEEN HIS REAL AND COMPLETE HAWAIIAN BIRTH CERTIFICATE ...

So much for a TRANSPARENT presidency.

Of course he is NOT really POTUS ....

feargal...
I see you read the nation and the democratic underground. That's probably where you got those quotes. The important thing to include in all blogging is CONTEXT. Even on Townhall you must always check sources for yourself! (and don't use Google for everything, they filter searches and you wouldn't believe the filter bias!)

I don't think you are a traitor for questioning anything! It's your duty as a citizen. However, I did my questioning, as did my Congress and about twenty other nations,-- we all agreed that the islamic jihadists would be met on the Afghani and Iraqi fields of battle--gee, so did the UN, they just didn't have the nerve to follow their resolutions with actions!

As to your selective quoting, I would say that things change. Priorities shift. Afterall, didn't the dems vote to go to war, then a few years later they are saying "it's a bad war, and it must end NOW." I guess the President must have known that osama bin laden was holed up somewhere in the mountains, effectively minimalized. We all wanted to find bin laden on 9/13/01! Obviously, there was intel that led our government to shift priorities. Don't worry, fear, there are plenty of bad jihadists to go around.

civility
Having dotated my time, money and votes to many Republican candidates over the years I was very happy when people started calling me a "traitor" for questioning GWB's Iraq policy. Can anyone explain these quotes to me:

"The most important thing is for us to find Osama bin Laden. It is our number one priority and we will not rest until we find him."
- G.W. Bush, 9/13/01

"I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority."
- G.W. Bush, 3/13/02

And the Democrat Governor/Mayor?????
DID NOTHING!!!! But somehow it is ALL the federal government's responsibility! Amazing what a Republican Governor can do!!! Thanks, Governor Jindal!

...Obama will keep the broken promises made by President Bush to rebuild New Orleans and the Gulf Coast. He and Vice President Biden will take steps to ensure that the federal government will never again allow such catastrophic failures in emergency planning and response to occur."...

2nd Amendment Individual Right, Part 1
Anyone with any sense can see the first Eight Amendments are Individual Rights.

Unlike Liberals who cherry pick or restate to their own purpose what someone or something says, this Conservative will post verbatim those Constitutional Articles referenced.

Amendment I: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the PEOPLE peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Amendment II: A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the PEOPLE to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Amendment III: No Soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without consent of the OWNER, nor in time of war, but in a manner prescribed by law.

Amendment IV: The right of the PEOPLE to be secure in their PERSONS, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the PERSONS or things to be seized.

Amendment V: No PERSON shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on the presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising from the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any PERSON be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

2nd Amendment Individual Right, Part 1
Anyone with any sense can see the first Eight Amendments are Individual Rights.

Unlike Liberals who cherry pick or restate to their own purpose what someone or something says, this Conservative will post verbatim those Constitutional Articles referenced.

Amendment I: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the PEOPLE peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Amendment II: A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the PEOPLE to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Amendment III: No Soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without consent of the OWNER, nor in time of war, but in a manner prescribed by law.

Amendment IV: The right of the PEOPLE to be secure in their PERSONS, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the PERSONS or things to be seized.

Amendment V: No PERSON shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on the presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising from the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any PERSON be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

DEAD HORSE, TOM
"That the words "a well regulated militia being necessary for the security of a free State", and the words "common defense" clearly show the true intent and meaning of these Constitutions and prove that it is a political and not an individual right, and, of course, that the State, in her legislative capacity, has the right to regulate and control it: This being the case, then the people, neither individually nor collectively, have the right to keep and bear arms."

"You are riding a dead horse on this one my friend."

Go read the decision of SCOTUS in the District of Columbia v. Heller. The court held that the Second Amendment protects the rights of INDIVIDUALS to own guns; regardless, of whether or not a "militia" is involved. The Second Amendment protects an individual's right to possess a firearm for private use. PERIOD.

YOUR dead horse WAS DECIDED last summer and YOU LOST.

BTW, I must applaud you. Robert and I never agree on ANYTHING; yet, you managed to succeed in aligning Wobbie and I, which is a major freakin' miracle.

Just kill them
Unfortunately, or maybe fortunately, Obama signing closing Gitmo has put a death sentence on many terrorists as instead of capturing them for information now the soldiers will just have to kill them. They will not be allowed to interrogate them in such a way as to get any information out of them so what is the use of keeping them alive? Thank you Obama.

Re: Kudos!!!
Yesiree, I think that this article hit the nail on the head, these people are pure ELITISTS and they think that they know more than the rest of the people in this country-ONE THING CERTAIN, THEY DON'T STUDY HISTORY!!! These people are mental migets in US history because they keep doing crap that DOES NOT WORK!!!!

They are just mean
I love to blog and even on some of the sweetest blogs they cannot resist bashing Bush. What disease do these people have? It has to be a sickness. I did not like Clinton at all but I never hated him with the viciousness that these leftwing nuts have toward a very good man. Anne Coulter was right when she wrote her book, "How to Talk to a Liberal if you really have to." You cannot carry on a pleasant conversation with these folks. It disintegrates into name calling and more Bush bashing. I wonder what kind of lives these people live that they base their whole lives on hatred of one man and a sick adoration of another who has not done anything good for us yet. Great column, Mr. Limbaugh. You and your brother are great Americans

Damage by the Departing Clintons
What about the priceless bust of Abe Lincoln that was found in Algore's house? Or the pictures that "left the building" along with Hillary and, presumably, the ghost of Eleanor Roosevelt?

True
Government Accounting Office was released on June 11, 2002. The 220 page document says there was damage, although not as much as some of the early reports had suggested. The GAO says the damage included 62 missing computer keyboards, 26 cell phones, two cameras, ten antique doorknobs and several presidential medallions and office signs. The damage estimate was about $20,000.

http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/t/trashingthewhitehous e.htm

inthemajority
Were you at the white house when the Clinton aides left?

According to the stories back then, the damage was reported but the GAO, as reported didn't investigate the whole story because Bush wanted to move on and not live in the past.

Ari Fleischer reported on it as did white house staffers, I doubt Rove wasted much time with this.

Since it's a Bush says/Clinton says claim with no evidence in either direction perhaps it was trashed, and perhaps it was not.

Knowing the childish antics of the left I'd wager it was quite possible the *W*'s were taken off key boards at the very least.

Obama is not even the FIRST ....
NON-Natural Born Citizen sworn in as POTUS.

That honor goes to Chester Arthur.

See:

http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/

For Details.

Limbaugh Lies
"Mr. Clinton's, who literally trashed the White House like juvenile delinquents."

Lies, made up by Rove, debunked soon after the lie.

Keep picking your reality, and soon you will think the Republican party is still relevant. I guess if you listen to the Oxy-Limbaugh you could go on thinking positive thoughts, but Republicans have to be the biggest crybabies ever.

Tugging on Superman's cape!
Folks - especially your Dumbocrats - it ain't over until the fat lady sings! And she has yet even begun to warm up, much less sing! So, sit there, wait & watch what happens! We Americans are a tough & fair group. Remember, Dumbocrats you should not tug on superman's cape; that is, wake Americans up!

semper fi
yeah i don't want to miss the passage of the employee free choice act.its going to be a great day in the history of organized labor.

roy
Take two weeks off and watch gavel to gavel coverage of C-SPAN.

OF COURSE they're poor winners
Bipartisan as defined by GOP: compromise, reaching across the aisle, McCain-Feingold, getting Diver Ted Kennedy in on NCLB, etc.

Bipartisan as defined by Donkey Party: "I won."

manners
hey limbaugh-so i guess dick cheney telling patrick leahy to go f himself on the floor of the senate set the tone for all those republican manners and collegiality?

army wife
there were some right wing economists who thought the dow would keep going up.the guys who wrote dow 36,000 for example.

SAy, TOM
WHere was all of your criticim when the Socialists were destroying the country to make Bush look bad??
That was perfectly alright for the dims to howl about everything then, eh?
And howl and screech, they did!!!!!!

Rounding Out the Trio
I see Cadidiot Hal Donahue is putt-putt-putting along with his pals Wisconsin Tommie and Ranger Robbie overloading their broken Wright Flyer as it spirals out of control.
Obama has urged them to put aside "childish things," to unite for the good of the nation and all its people, to look and move forward rather than backward. By their posts here they show they do not support Obama or follow his leadership.
They are still behaving like children, engaging in Bush bashing, occupied with things past and refusing to unite for the good that Obama promises to bring. How sad.
Their overloading reminds me of the story about the alligator mouth and the opposite end of the chicken.

thanks, Ronald
I have tangled with him before. I just like to watch him implode. He LOVES to take me on, too. You are correct in that he might be unstable. I'll leave him alone.

Thank you for your kind words. Goodnight, Sir Ronald.

ArmyWife - 2
Tom in WI is another one like Ranger Robbie.

ArmyWife
Those of us who know Ranger Rob know he is unworthy of your time, attention and effort. He posts like an attention-seeking, Dr. Lyle Rossiter-described Liberal suffering mental illness. It is best that he be denied as much as possible the attention he craves, that we not feed his mental illness.

Winners or losers
They're still lefties, David.

okay, I can't resist ranger...
Calling me a "loser." Super nice, robert! and really grown up of you!

Of course I voted. I have voted for each and every election since I was 18...even the little local ones. For such a punctuation guru I would've thought you would understand the my use of parentheses indicated that there are conservatives who hated John McCain so much that they refused to vote--thereby contributing to the election of the naked emperor. To descend to your level: DUH...

Layoffs? Did anyone really expect the US economy to keep ballooning? I'm no economist, but even I knew that the DOW couldn't keep getting higher and higher. That house values couldn't keep getting artificially higher and higher. That speculators couldn't keep jacking up oil prices without the bottom falling out.

Only a committed Bush hater would lay the entire ecomonic meltdown at his feet. I can just picture you, robert, with your fingers in your ears and your eyes tightly closed, singing "I'm not listening, I'm not listening."

just like obama....spoiled and arrogant

two words, tom:
democrat congress

tom, I can tell by your posts and the combative tone of your question that you are a Bush hater and have no real interest in the Truth. You will always see the Bush Presidency through a skewed prism.

The difference is that I am TRYING to give obama the benefit of the doubt. While I saw through the silliness and massive group-think of his campaign, I am consciously trying to have an open mind--to believe that he wanted an end to the chronic partisan bickering. No, he can't even hack it for 48 hrs before he's reverted to "I won so screw all of you!" Nice.

Sorry, tom...no more discussion with you. Why don't you canoodle with ole ranger-boy?

Household 6 Out

Army Wife
But before you worry about cleaning up Obama's "mess" do tell us what you did to prevent the "mess" of the past 8 years?

Heaven forbid that a great patriot like you would have voted (once or twice) for a totally inept president such as Gerge W Bush. Right?

libs will never show class
If HONEST liberals would just admit that the vast majority of them are embarrassingly poor winners, I might actually be able to muster a modicum of respect for one or two of them.

*sigh* As usual, it's up to the mature, civilized and rational conservatives to "be the grown up" and act gracious in defeat---FOR NOW. The naked emperor is showing his true condescending and nasty self in this first week of his rule. He's signing away so much that eventually he's gonna offend his own hypersensitive liberal sycophants.

We conservatives (and the ones who petulantly refused to vote last Nov) will come back and clean up obama's mess--just like we've done after jimmy carter and bill clinton.

Okay Doug, back to Limbaugh
This clown (David) yaps about what a few insignificant nuts from the left said at the inauguration but ignores his own bro Rush, who is spewing about how he "hopes" Obama (and thus our nation) fails.

The former is stupidity, the latter is close to treason and certainly unpatriotic.

The big difference is that blowhard Rush has a huge forum and millions of dolts who are like thinkers with Rush.

Ranger
You are denying reality. The Second amendment is not all that vague...except to the folks who try to read too much into it per their agenda. Or do you think that Justice Lacy was just blowing smoke when he said:

"That the words "a well regulated militia being necessary for the security of a free State", and the words "common defense" clearly show the true intent and meaning of these Constitutions and prove that it is a political and not an individual right, and, of course, that the State, in her legislative capacity, has the right to regulate and control it: This being the case, then the people, neither individually nor collectively, have the right to keep and bear arms."

You are riding a dead horse on this one my friend.

Gray Ghost
The Federalist Papers have about as much to do with the current looney debate about gun ownership as did any mention of the internet in the 1700's.

When Hamilton, Madison, and John Jay wrote them they were simply trying to get New York to ratify the US Constitution. They posed each and every argument in 18th century terms for 18th century issues and problems. No more, no less.

I suggest that YOU read Federalist Paper #29 (by Hamilton I think) since it probably has as much (or as little) to say about citizens owning guns as anything in the Federalist Papers.

What do you do, just toss this stuff out as if it means something and that you know what you are talking about. I doubt that you have ever read the entire 58 Federalist Papers.

Republicans gone? You wish.
you can pry the guns from my cold, dead hands before you get your greasy, pathetic hands on them.

Hey the more you harass, the stronger we get, and the harder we work. Keep it coming. Now go return to your collective of hope and change, we don't need drones here.

Ranger
So let me get this straight...your answer to the written words of the Second Amendment are now punctuation...or semantics?

Get real. "Bearing arms" is no more "vital" to our nation than is planting green and yellow flags in North Dakota to keep the aliens away. Yes, the goofs will say "It's working" but it sure as hell makes no sense!

Guns Smuns
Nobody knows what "militia" deal means, hence the problem.

But this Limbaugh buffoon is a whiny twit like the rest of you dinosaurs.


Good riddance to the albatross re-pube-lican party.

No more hillbillies in important positions.


(how's that for national policy?)

Wrong Ranger
It says "A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

What do you think the "regulated militia" part of that might mean?

As for being a "vital" freedom...that is nonsense. The "freedom" to not use a seat belt is about as "vital" as not having guns in homes.

gray ghost
hunting is a privilege?maybe now but i would say back in the 18th and 19th century wouldn't it have been an essential part of survival?and by definition something you have to do to survive cannot be a privilege.it is a right.god given or otherwise.

Summers
You and ExRC SD Deputy have fun. I am going to go to bed.

PS: It appears that "tom from WI" has never read the Federalist Papers and other documents concerning the 2nd Amendment. Hunting is a privilege. Self-protection is a God given right. As for the defense from foreign invasion, both the Japanese and German writers after WW2 stated that the invasion of the US would have been impossible due to civilian ownership of guns.

Why do retired cops and military...
guys think that gives them an inside track on logic?

You weren't a General or a Chief,so it's just a job, although very respectable, that millions of jarheads have done throughout history.


You need to make arguements that are sound to gain respect.

Plus, who knows if you are lying or not, so just let your brain gain your respect. Not some past accomplisnment, not matter hoe great, that cannot be verified.

(I just kicked you crutch out, dude.)

Gray Ghost
The Illinois public school system has produced several failures who post here.

Glad roy confirmed he is a dumpster diver. He is just waiting for the restaurants to close so he can go out for dinner.

ExRC SD Deputy
I noticed. I pray for our country constantly. O'Vomit has no executive experience. The mistakes that he will make, listening to advisors whose only objective is to increase their own wealth and power, could cause serious harm to the US.

ranger
Why do you think that the Founding Fathers had their views on "bearing arms?"

It had almost exclusively to do with providing food for their tables and defense of the country in the 1700's. Almost anyone with a double digit IQ can deduce that neither applies in the 21st century.

My point was directed at those who do pretend that gun rights are necessary for our nation's defense. What part of that is unclear to you?

Gray Ghost
Baton Rouge; originally from Natchez.

gray ghost
its all right man.they were called auxillary police years ago.don't be ashamed of what you do.just like that summers character above said.i'm a dumpster diver but by god i'm the best dumpster diver i can be.not sure what he meant by someone going to his knees but he sounds like the voice of experience.

Summers
Watching Wobbie the Boy Blunder, roy the human blend-o-matic, and other Liberal trolls tonight has been entertaining. I have been wrestling with an engineering problem and needed something to relax me.

Are you near Monroe? My daughter and her family live there.

Did anyone
notice that the day Obugout signs an EO closing GITMO is the same day that oe of the former detainees is IDed as the # 2 al-Qaeda man in Yemen?

Summers
The dumpster diver in Illinois is terribly frightening. (I almost passed out from laughing.)

The Nerve
Limbaugh's upset because Bush and Cheney got booed?

9/11
Iraq
Katrina
Economy Collapse


Am I missing something?


Also, didn't RUSH Limbaugh just say he hopes Obama fails?


Idiotic Losers!

roy
"so you were basically a rent-a-cop?"

No, and I will answer you in your own words: "its not wise to make generalizations like that".

Gray Ghost
'you guys seem to confuse liberalism and kindness with weakness.' roy

I'll just bet that nonsensical statement from a dumpster diver in Illinois has brought you to your knees.

gray ghost
so you were basically a rent-a-cop?hey all i can tell you is if you are feeling froggy-jump.oh and dan when you come to take me to gitmo make sure you bring friends.hey wait a minute.isn't obama closing gitmo?you guys seem to equate liberalism and kindness with weakness.its not wise to make generalizations like that.

ExRC SD Deputy
Fact: IQ29 lives on the outskirts of Houston.

Considering the time he has to post, now that he has to wait until the monitors are off TH, I have a suggestion for you to consider. He is into 'military' and 'weapons', although his knowledge is shallow. It appears that IQ29 may, if he is working above his capabilities, be a guard for the Texas correctional system for the night shift. He is just a 'wanna be'. Bet he can drive to Sugarland in his sleep.

BTW, Ranger'sIQ's-29
are really so stupid as not to realize that there is a reason that the TH monitors ban you every weekday, and occasionally on Saturday?

Ranger'sIQ's-29
You are no hat and no cattle, just a large pile of what comes out of the south end of a north bound bull.

Wobbie
You just tire me out. You are so experienced. Your resume now includes Pilot, Naval Captain, Politician, Law Enforcement Officer, etc.......

What are you, 150 years old?

kbTexan
When you talk about what the Founding Fathers said about "peaceful" citizens bearing arms, do you also realize that they were living in a time when owning small arms might actually help the general population stem a foreign invasion?

Their 240 year old viewpoint has absolutley nothing to do with "protecting" our nation in the 21st century.

We could have had every member of the NRA gallantly standing gaurd on 9/11 and it would have had not an iota of effect on the outcome. You are using an anachronism that does not fit today to promote an agenda.

I see nothing wrong with lawful ownership of guns for hunting or target shooting or collecting.

But it's disengenuous at best to pretend that the Founding Fathers would say today what they did in the 1700's or that small arms in the hands of ordinary citizens are going to somehow protect or save our nation.

Dumb or mendacious arguments by gun rights advocates just make them seem...well...dumb and mendacious.

Normally I Don't Answer Wobbie
I am a retired reserve police officer. I carried a badge for over twenty years. During that time I had to defend myself twice.

I can tell from your writing that you have never killed or been in law enforcement. Only an inexperienced person would use a word only seen in B grade westerns (i.e., "tin horn").

Again
"Twenty times in the course of my late reading have I been on the point of breaking out, "This would be the best of all possible worlds, if there were no religion in it!!!" But in this exclamation I would have been as fanatical as Bryant or Cleverly. Without religion this world would be something not fit to be mentioned in polite company, I mean hell."

John Adams

The Tories were the equivalent of the modern day liberals.

The founders were the conservatives. Life, liberty, pursuit of happiness are modern day conservative values.

Oh, and we WILL win.

For Roy Per His 5:49pm Post
"you all ever seen billy jack?remember in the park where he tells that dude"i'm gonna take my right foot and wop you on that side of your face.and you what,there's nothing you're gonna be able to do about it."well we're billy jack."

In regards to your bravado with your use of a scene from the movie "Billy Jack", here is a quote from a movie that you should ponder if you and the Liberals take our country to the worse case senario (i.e., the destruction of the Constitution). And remember most of the Conservatives have military experience:

First thing is, that target wasn't shooting back at you. Second, most men at that last second will flinch; I won't.

roy
No, I was thinking more like GITMO. I have personally recommended you for a spot.

Hal
"Sometimes the law defends plunder and participates in it. Thus the beneficiaries are spared the shame and danger that their acts would otherwise involve... But how is this legal plunder to be identified? Quite simply. See if the law takes from some persons what belongs to them and gives it to the other persons to whom it doesn't belong. See if the law benefits one citizen at the expense of another by doing what the citizen himself cannot do without committing a crime. Then abolish that law without delay ... No legal plunder; this is the principle of justice, peace, order, stability, harmony and logic."

Bastiat

Conservative or liberal position?

DanNV
I tend to agree with you that the Dems very well may over-reach and shoot themselves in the foot.

But don't you think that you should at least wait until they have blown as much of our tax dollars (or should I say our grand kids) as did the Bush/Paulson squad?

Seems that I'm reading that even Paulson admits he has not a clue what the banks did with it or even where most of the first $350 BILLION went!


Hal
"The said constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms."

Samuel Adams

Conservative or liberal position?

Hal
You think Washington, Jefferson, Adams, Locke, etc. were socialists? You need to go back and read them again.

On gun control, limited government, individual freedom, the Constitution, freedom of speech,...none of what these men believed even comes close to what the liberals of today believe.

And you might as well get ready. None of your spin will save you. We WILL win.

dan
a gulag for liberals?

If Only
In their ignorant exuberance, it appears that the Dems are going to go for broke, put it all on the line, bet the max, shoot for the moon. The problem, America is not ready for where they think they can take it and that reality is going to, perhaps literally, blow up in their faces.

When reality once again returns with all the vengeance that it can, it would a consolation if we could round up those who returned it with such clarity, to include their minions and send them to a reservation where they could live out their lives in the depravity they deserve isolated from those they brought such harm.

IQ29
Tick-Tock, Tick-Tock, Tick-Toc, Girlyman Loser of a Coward!

john in oregon
did you actually read the GAO report? There certainly WAS a great deal of vandalism, pranks, obscene posters, and other childish nonsense by Clinton staffers.

john
yeah i saw that.another conservative canard.just like the urban legend that gi's were spit on when returning from vietnam.never happened.there is not one documented case of that ever happening.but i guess if they repeat something often enough some people are going to believe it.

Urban Legend
Mr. Limbaugh asks us to "contrast the behavior of Mr. Bush's staff leaving office and that of Mr. Clinton's, who literally trashed the White House like juvenile delinquents."

Hey, David, if it will help you make your case, just repeat an urban legend. See:

http://conwebwatch.tripod.com/blog/index.blog?entry_id=1875 835

liberal
anybody see jon stewarts show yesterday?hilarious.thats right lolo i'm a liberal.but then again who would you be spewing your venom at if not the liberals.i'm providing a valuable public service.i can take it though.you all aren't real sharp after all.i've destroyed arguments from fellows at the heritage foundation and the american enterprise institute.i come here to stay sharp.some of the arguments are too ridiculous to even consider though.so get on the stick righties.i need a challenge.

watchman15
We also learned that if we ignore it, it won't go away - terrorism.

and the road to hell is paved with good intentions - affordable housing.

George Bush learned one lesson in time and one lesson too late.

roy
P.S. Comrade roy....only a liberal twists every single solitary thing to be a right.

roy
Idiot you did not prove a thing...maybe in your own twisted mind from the twisted corrupt state of Illinois.

No wonder you guys are saddled with Blago....

oh one more thing
favorite cartoon-underdog

What Has The Last Eight Years Taught Us?
Republicans, not Conservatives, had the Presidency for the last eight ye at no time did Conservatives have real control of the Senate during the past eight years and thus We The People were moved slightly Left during that time. The fact is that government did indeed grow as Liberals would have it, not shrink, as Conservatives would have it.

But what did we learn from the overtures of good man like President Bush, to the Left, by supporting Kennedy drafted Education Legislation and increased spending for prescription drugs to the elderly?

What did we learn from President Bush’s refusal to fight back against groundless partisan arguments against him by the Left, all for the sake of his “new tone?” Bush could have dismissed the media’s spinning of reasonable veneration of our troops as they accomplished their missions by stating that it would be remiss not to thank them and show the nation’s appreciation from time to time.

President Bush could have sought charges against Wilson and Plame for violations of the Hatch act when the perniciously attempted to influence the outcome of a Presidential Election in favor of the Democrats.

He could have rightfully laid blame for the Katrina deaths squarely where it belonged, on those in charge of the evacuation, Governor Blanco and Mayor Nagin, for if the people had been evacuated according to the New Orleans evacuation plan they would not have died.

Despite their Leftist spin, this nation was guided Left during the Bush administration, all for the sake of a “new tone,” and “bipartisanship” that was never acknowledge or given credit to this very day.

So what did we learn?

Never trust, or turn your back on a Liberal, they’ll stab you every time.

top ten girly man movies
heres girly man roy's top ten girly man movies.drum roll please brrrrrrrrrrrrrr
10.billy jack
9.silkwood
8.erin brockovich
7.che'
6.mash
5.matewan
4.norma rae
3.a clockwork orange
2.on the waterfront
1.hoffa

roy the socialist
you have not made your case just posted union propaganda.

And repeating the inane comment made by some other moron that Jesus would be a union organizer proves you are just another troll parroting the talking points your masters at move on and kos give you

Rowdy, Standshis, Georgetwin, Gunny G.

Trouble in River City.

This Obama outfit looks lost. Unbelieveable. They're about to let a bunch of terrorist killers go and have no idea what to do with them. You can't make this stuff up.

It's Jimmy Carter all over again. In about six months, Obama will even make Carter look good. The mainstream, liberal media will run cover for their hero, of course.

This country is for an epic fiasco.


socialist Obama
anyone ever read Atlas Shruged??,,,we are so in it right now...scares the hell out of me...

Roy?

You blame the wealthy repulicans. How about all those weathy Democrats, Soros, Murdock and Hollywood elites.
Obama has already gone back on his word in just three days.
Transparency - locked out the press at his second oath taking.
No Lobbyist - just today put up a lobbyist name for his cabinet.
Ehtics - Tax evader as the Treasury Secretary.

That's one per day. In one year that should be 365 flip flops.

Good luck!


mr.cactuses cacti?
heres how einstein.with card check in place workers will be free from the delaying,threatening and coercive tactics of greedy companies and free to exercise their god-given right to organize.if jesus were alive today there's no doubt in my mind he'd be a union organizer.oh thanks hal.(oh and cactushead re government handouts see joe the plumber.)i have already proven tax cuts don't create jobs.never have-never will.any other ideas you have i can debunk let me know.

ROY uses movies as facts

Roy is the personification of the 'Girly-Men' of the left.

Instead of using facts, logic and reason Roy uses feelings and emotions to make his point.

Women like 'Chick Flicks'.

I guess now we can say, 'Girly-Men' like 'Roy Flicks'.

roy the socialist
make your case to back up your brainless assertion that bush almost destroyed the country.

Exactly how does removing the secret ballot from union elections make the country better.

And why does making people pay more taxes improve anything when we have a congress that can't quit wasting money and growing the deficit

Your clueless messiah has said you grow the economy from the bottom up. Exactly how do the parasites living on govt handouts accomplish this, Point out any example where people in poverty create jobs

But for your information every wealthy district in the country is represented by the dim party. The dims have controlled the federal budget the past two years and under pelousy and reid the country had the largest federal budget ever some $4.3 trillion dollars. This included billions in corporate welfare and pork spending put in by the dims.

Provide i example of any govt program that is so successful it ceased to exist because it solved the problem it was set up to supposidly take care of.

Under the swimmer kennedy rules are federal spending had to grow at 12% to 15% per year or the dims would cry programs were being cut. Under bush he kept this rate to 8%.

Have you gotten a 15% raise every year you worked and spent now only your entire income but borrowed huge amounts so you can spend more.

So tell us socialist roy how the messiah is going to make things better by borrowing from the chinese another $1 trillion dollars and his plans for even more govt spending

ROY!
Location: IL
Reply # 210
Date: Jan 23, 2009 - 5:49 PM EST
change is coming ..."

VERY WELL SAID!

change is coming
ok heres the deal-we tried it your way for the last 8 years and bush almost destroyed the country.now we have to try to fix it.its gonna be tough though.the top 5% is getting kicked off the gravy train and its about time.we'll pass card check,bring back the estate tax and raise capital gains taxes.supply side economics is a dismal failure.there's a new sheriff in town so get used to it.america will be great again instead of the 2 bit,crony capitalist banana republic that bush left us.you all ever seen billy jack?remember in the park where he tells that dude"i'm gonna take my right foot and wop you on that side of your face.and you what,there's nothing you're gonna be able to do about it."well we're billy jack.

kbTexan
"Date: Jan 23, 2009 - 4:48 PM EST
Hal Donohue
Trying to have a discussion with Hal is like arguing with a three year old. He will never understand.

Conservatives aren't stealing anything. This country has always belonged to us. It never belonged to the socialists or Marxists. You guys are the interlopers."

LOL you conservatives supported the British, the confederacy and Bush you no longer control this land we took it from you in 1776 and reaffirmed it in 1865.

"...Get off the HuffPo and go read Washington, Jefferson, ..."

I have and do. Guess what? They were rebels for the most part and therefore almost by definition liberals.

"...Wander around DC and read the words carved in stone on its monuments, declaring our dependence on God, Providence, and Divine authority."

LOL and your point is?

"...We embrace conservatism because, in the history of mankind, nothing else has created such wealth, such success, and such liberty for mankind..."

LMAO you are deluded if we followed your lead we would still be British subjects

"...We reject socialism, Marxism, and your brand of liberalism because everywhere it has gained control of a nation, that nation as been brought to ruin and poverty, and in many instances, brutality and death for those who did not fall in line."

Oh simply not true at all our version of America is clearly the founders' version, every great society from Rome on celebrated diversity and change to gain its peak. Once conservatism and resistance to change set in it was all down hill from there. Read Obama's speech about the old true values - you know the very ones you abandoned

"...This nation is ours, and we will fight...and die if necessary...to keep it..."

we have

left dangle
I guess you must have finished your homework and got tired of playing video games so you are again showing up to demonstrate to the adults on why today's kids are clueless about every aspect of life.

You sound just like a 12 year old who beat another 12 year old in some game and has got to rub it in he won.

But you have still to explain what you have to look forward to when you finally leave mommy's basement, find a job and discover you don't have a life with low wages and the high taxes that will come as result of your messiah's bailout's and deficits.


bet
yeah we do-huge ones

Wealthy Republicans?
Wealthy Republicans? Roy from Obamaland, are you on crack-cocaine, like Barry-boy?

From Kennedy, Kerry and Gore to the Marxist Millionaire Barry (the great autobiographical author) Dunham, these are Marxists who made their millions off the capitalist system but now whine that it's not fair and only they are smart enough to know who to redistribute wealth.

Do adult, especially adult men actually vote Democrat? Wow, do these "men" have testicles?

secessionists
here we go again-you guys are like 3rd graders.if i don't win i'm taking my ball and going home.i hear a lot of talking.but thats what wealthy republicans are best at.too soft for any action.been counting money all your lives.you all need to either to secede or get with the program.either way would be fine with most real americans.we don't need fair weather americans.

KbTexan & Joycey
Kb great suggestion! I have suggested similar, but my suggestion was to divide the country in half. One half for us Red's (conservatives) the other half for the Blue's (Libs). Only problem is that our half would be successful, while the other half would be reduced to third world status with all of the socialism and huge government, that the Blue's would then start to try to invade on our half.

Let's ponder this over the weekend and discuss again at a later date.

Can't hurt! Remember, only 3% of the entire population of Russia wanted to end communism, and they finally succeeded. Our freedom is more than worth some sacrifice.

Have a great weekend!

LEFT ANGLE

Can you now stand on your own merit without all the Bush bashing?

I am so glad Obama has come to save the world. Yeah, it has been needing to be saved for the past 2,000 years and he got here just in time.

think above your pay grade!
I have heard --mostly---gracious comments from friends, others who did not vote for Mr. Obama.

After all, we are all on the same "ship of state".....

But that tired 1960's influenced "burn baby burn" be "rude & crude" protest ideology - where one SNEERS at one's opponent...lives on...

Ad Hominen should be their motto!

Hal Donohue
Trying to have a discussion with Hal is like arguing with a three year old. He will never understand.

Conservatives aren't stealing anything. This country has always belonged to us. It never belonged to the socialists or Marxists. You guys are the interlopers.

Get off the HuffPo and go read Washington, Jefferson, Madison, monroe, Samuel Adams, John Adams, Frederic Bastiat, John Locke, Adam Smith.

Wander around DC and read the words carved in stone on its monuments, declaring our dependence on God, Providence, and Divine authority.

We embrace conservatism because, in the history of mankind, nothing else has created such wealth, such success, and such liberty for mankind.

We reject socialism, Marxism, and your brand of liberalism because everywhere it has gained control of a nation, that nation as been brought to ruin and poverty, and in many instances, brutality and death for those who did not fall in line.

This nation is ours, and we will fight...and die if necessary...to keep it.

Reba: Of course you think that
the sky is falling or will fall, that's the only way for repubs/cons to get back in power.
what you seem to forget is the sky ALREADY FELL
after 8 years of repubs Bush/Cheney and the former Repub-led Congress..besides thats all you have to offer is negativity, divisiveness
and not a single idea to solve the nations problems which is exactly why you are the MINORITY..

the obamad and the dems congress are on a mission to reverse, undo and CHANGE practically every bit of the failed bush-cheney legacy, law by law & issue by issue. just look what he did in the first day in office if you think it's a joke..he's dismantling bush already. lmao

Reba
Tick-Tock, Tick-Tock, Tick-Tock, It is just a matter of time.

Hal Donahue Part 3
Hal Donahue 8:58am
"You should have thought about that before you embraced conservatism"

Hal Donahue does not say that he mis-spoke nor does he apologize in any of his posts before this post for the above quote. The line has been drawn by the Liberals. You either think the Liberal way or you will be punished.

Americans need to ponder this. This means the destruction of the 1st Amendment.


Hal Donahue 12:18pm
"With great regret but we will not allow you to steal our country. Now you are sounding like the terrorist McVeigh."

I don't think so. Instead Hal Donahue sounds like the criminal Hitler.

I didn't say anything about stealing our country. I merely asked that if the Liberals abolish the 1st, 2nd, and 22nd Amendments, WHO will the US military support?

I PREDICT
that the ilks of Pelosi, Reid, Barney Frank, Murtha in Pa., and Obama will screw up so badly and so well that even the moderate Democrates will get tired of their Socialist agenda; enough to cause a serious new movement in this country.

Among some of you I have discussed the idea of a renewed Texas Independence from the Federal government. We have everything made, built or grown in Texas to be Independent. However, the idea of a entirely new movement for the people and by the people appeals to me more. In two years I predict that the majority of American people will also. GOD BLESS AMERICA!


Cactushead
Plastic Surgery Piglosi has had SO MANY facelifts, that when she raises her gavel, her leg cocks like a dog peeing on a fence post.

WHEN THE FIRST DEATHS EXPLODE
on American Soil, then you libs will look back and ask:

WHY DID WE ALLOW THE MEDIA TO ELECT THIS PRESIDENT--IT WASNT US!

WHY DID WE NOT REALIZE HE HAD NO EXPERIENCE AND HIS CREW IS STEEPED IN DECIET? IT WASNT US!

WHY DID'NT WE SEE THAT HE WAS NOT THE CHRIST? THE CHRISTIANS VOTED FOR McCAIN! IT WASNT US!

LOLOLOLOLOL---I FEAR.

ROWDY BOOTS.

georgetwin
i am wondering hoiw much longer the red nazi will be in congress. She is 67 and proves the danger botox injections to to someone with a limited intellectual capacity.

Perhaps there are some serious side effects to continued use. I for one hope so


Because.....
Because when you import tens of millions of grade school educated Mestizos, they support La Raza, LULAC and MALDEF, who in turn vote and support Democrats.

Even Nashville, Tn. failed to pass and official English language policy for city business. Instead city, state and federal govt. have to spend more money on multiple language documents and "services". Buh-bye USA.

La Raza has a long, powerful reach.

Learn Spanish and welcome our new Mexian Masters.


It's the Immigration, Stupid GOP!
This chin-stroking is all fol-de-rol.

Mass immigration is killing the GOP. That's the main cause. Why?

Because most immigrants (legal & illegal) are poor and vote Democrat if and when they become citizens. They vote that way cuz the Dems offer them more 'goodies'.

If November's results were transposed on the electorate as it existed in 1988, McPain would have won. What has changed?

It's the immigration, stupid.

I DO NOT NEED TO BE POLITE
As for me, I do not have to be polite in describing the media and the Liberals copulating in an orgy of glee and gluttony on Inarguration Day:

A DEAD PIG LIES IN THE BLOODY SEWAGE GUTTER, THE WORMS CRAWL IN AND OUT OOZING THIER SLIMY TRAILS.

HAVE A NICE LUNCH LIBS.

ROWDY BOOTS

Joycey
My suggestion is that all the conservatives move to the southern states and we can replay the War Between the States and secede. In 20 years there will be a significant difference between the capitalist USA and the socialist USA.

We'll have to have a strong immigration policy though, because all the takers will be wanting to move in to "share the wealth."

GunnyG
Q: What will be the result of Plastic Surgery Piglosi and ACORN Hopey McChange butting heads?
A. An Echo
B. Sparks
C. 2 Ball Bearings rattling around in 2 different Boxcars
D. All of the above

kb Texan
I lived in Austin for 6 months. We never wanted to leave. I have heard that Texas has it written into their Constitution that they can succeed at any time from the United States. Is that true. We hope to retire in Texas. But I'm sure the government will take our savings before then.

svpallava
If Dopey McChange REALLY screws up, no, but if it's just small screwups over time, like all of this week! haha, yeah.

Once libs start getting a taste of his coming high taxes, inflation, MORE recession, and when we get hit again by terrorists, it'll be over for them. They're run by Code Pink and Soros and held together by BDS, they'll crack like an egg when the going gets tough. They always do.

Barry Dunham, the Central Planner
Webster Glenn Reynolds best described what is going on in Obama's Washington:

“This is not so much a stimulus, as a massive transfer of wealth from the politically unconnected to the politically connected.”

In other words, inner cities (blacks & corrupt city democrat political machines), so called "immigrants" - really illegal alien Latinos and women - even though women constitute most people in the workforce, most college graduates and most college students.

Barry the (Fabian Socialist) Central Planner.

Big Bro Government knows best.

Rupert Murdoch
SEZ GENE:
"As far as the MSM in concerned, don't make me laugh. Rupert Murdock is the bigest player in American media today, so you're not going to convince anyone the MSM is slanted to the left."

SEZ ME:
Do you mean the Rupert Murdoch who donated the maximum to Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign? Hillary Clinton's Senate campaign? John Kerry's presidential campaign? John Kerry's Senate campaign? Ted Kennedy's Senate campaign? Harold Ford's Senate campaign? Chuck Schumer's Senate campaign?

That Rupert Murdoch?

Tommy, you are a perfect...
illustration of a stupid liberal; it's not our fault!

Many experts agree that had Clinton showed some stones to someone other than Monica Lewinski, 9/11 may never have happened. All that loser did was to scold Al-Qaeda with a typical liberal threat to sue them if they ever attacked America again. Bush proved that American made military ordnance and the brave men and women of our military, are a much more effective deterrent!

You have also conveniently ignored the suicide attack against the USS Cole that killed 17 U.S. sailors. Let's see, that also happened on Clinton's watch.

What's surprising re Bush's departure...
...is not the scattering of boo's but the fact that he and Cheney were not run out of town on a rail.

As far as the MSM in concerned, don't make me laugh. Rupert Murdock is the bigest player in American media today, so you're not going to convince anyone the MSM is slanted to the left.


Question for GunnyG @ 14:28
Do you really think Dhimmicrud rupture will take that long (a year or two)?

the original cactushead
I can't WAIT until the messiah and princess piglosi bump heads! Watching the dummycrats fracture and fall apart in the next year or two will be awesome.

As I told clyde on my blog, we'll have a river of schadenfreude to savor.

the original cactushead
I like your post at 220PM and could not agree more. What's even better is that the liberal women have emasculated many of their metrosexual drones, thus removing them from breeding.

For myself, whenever I see a flaming liberal,I am reminded of R Lee Ermey's line to Pyle: "I'm gonna rip your b*lls off so you cannot contaminate the rest of the world."

Pyle was a lib.

gunnyg
after meeting with repubs and discussing the $825 billion bailout, the messiah told the repubs, I won, so there is no doubt which way the country will now head.

It seems we were right along, The messiah is no adult and proves that like a spoiled child, it's his ball and the game will be played his way.

I guess this proves he is even dumber than we suspected

standshisground
you forget the greenies who think the only way to save gaia is if the world commits mass suicide to make amends for using resources in order to survive.

Plus there are also another group of liberals so opposed to violence that they will become willing victims rather than defend themselves

I guess we can thank everything holy these loonies also seem to breed in very low numbers or fully engage in abortions to lessen their numbers

I am not about intervene when a crazy is intent on self destruction

Standshisground
I don't know amigo. If you took one of Odumbo's sweaty jocks and tossed it into the middle of a 1000 libs, they'd fight to the death to sniff it.

Liberals feel they don't think.
Progressives don't progress, democrats are socialist, and liberals are know it all's. But they will lie, cheat, spin, and tug at every ones feelings to win the mind of the stupid masses. And it works because people get to feel good with the least amount of effort. Democrats = lazy + stupid.

Now being a republican is harder because it takes time, hard work, and good reasoning. For example global warming. look into the science of global warming. Science will say it's the sun's weather patterns that make the biggest difference. And that carbon follows temperature, it doesn't make it. So why was Bush and Mc Cain on board with this nonsense? Why because they were being lazy and stupid. And that ='s Democrat.

We need real conservatives republicans and we need them to have laud voices. Voices that can speak over the main stream media and down to the public. The people are to lazy to come get it you've got to bring it to them.

Lolo1
All the feel good platitudes of the left are not going to change the facts of the demographics Obama is targeting. Maybe he considers it repayment for their vote

You answered your own question rather well.

Hal Donahue
From what I've seen of liberals, the only thing THEY would fight for with force is if someone tried to take away their bong and their stash!

Bravo Mr. Limbaugh
In my daily contacts with Liberal (Progressive) friends(and enemies)they are upset that we are not upset. They are upset that we are loyal Americans rallying behind President Obama, working to put aside the "childish things" of "campaign rhetoric" as he said in his inaugural speech and last week respectively on the edge of becoming "the one President at a time."
Dr. Rossiter is right in his book about them, as Ann Coulter was before. Liberalism is a mental illness. Their projection of their anger, hate, fears and frustrations onto us is a clear sign of their mental illness.