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Friday, February 01, 2008
Thomas Sowell :: Townhall.com Columnist
McCain's Straight Lies
by Thomas Sowell
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We have been hearing for years that Senator John McCain gives "straight talk" and his bus has been endlessly referred to as the "straight talk express." But endless repetition does not make something true.

The fact that McCain makes short, blunt statements does not make him a straight-talker.

There are short, blunt lies -- and he told a big one on the eve of the Florida primary, when he claimed that Mitt Romney had advocated a timetable for withdrawal from Iraq.

Even the Washington Post, which supports McCain, said that the Senator "has distorted the meaning" of what Governor Romney said, that Romney "has never proposed setting 'a date for withdrawal.'"

During Mitt Romney's ABC News interview that Senator McCain twisted, Governor Romney was asked by the interviewer whether he agreed with President Bush's veto of Congressional legislation setting a timetable for withdrawal, and whether Romney as President would veto similar legislation.

"Of course," was Romney's reply. There was no ambiguity.

Confronted with his lie on Wednesday night's debate, McCain blustered and filibustered in a manner reminiscent of Captain Queeg in "The Caine Mutiny," when he was caught in a lie during a navy inquiry.

When confronted with any of his misdeeds, Senator McCain tends to fall back on his record as a war hero in Vietnam.

Let's talk sense. Benedict Arnold was a war hero but that did not exempt him from condemnation for his later betrayal.

Being a war hero is not a lifetime get-out-of-jail-free card. And becoming President of the United States is not a matter of rewarding an individual for past services.

The Presidency is a heavy responsibility for the future of the nation, including generations yet unborn. Character and integrity are major qualifications.

The passing years and a friendly media have allowed Senator McCain's shortcomings in the character and integrity department to fade into the background.

McCain was one of "the Keating five" -- Senators who used their influence to try to protect a failing savings & loan company, which also became the subject of a corruption investigation.

During the 2000 primaries, the Associated Press reported Senator McCain's joking about people with Alzheimer's.

This went beyond bad taste because (1) it was known at the time that Ronald Reagan was suffering from Alzheimer's and (2) the media to whom McCain was pandering hated Ronald Reagan.

It is especially ironic now to see McCain wrapping himself in the mantle of President Reagan.

With the momentum of his Florida primary win behind him, going into the "Super Tuesday" primaries, John McCain has now been restored to the position of front runner that the media gave him at the outset.

Other Republicans are jumping on his bandwagon. This may have less to do with McCain's own qualities than with the prospect of getting Cabinet posts or Supreme Court appointments as rewards for their political support.

It may all look like a done deal. But the McCain-Kennedy bill giving amnesty to illegal aliens looked like a done deal two years ago -- until the public realized the truth behind the spin and brought that sell-out to a screeching halt.

Super Tuesday may be the voters' last chance to bring the so-called "straight talk express" to a screeching halt.

It should be called the "sell-out express" because McCain has sold out not only with amnesty for illegal aliens but also sold out the First Amendment with the McCain-Feingold "campaign finance reform" bill that was supposed to take big money out of political campaigns, but blatantly has not.

McCain also sold out on judicial nominations by making his own side deal with the Democrats, undercutting Republican attempts to stop Democrats from filibustering judicial nominees instead of voting them up or down.

This is quite a record for someone running as a straight talker.

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Wrong about Keating 5
Mr. Sowell:

You are wrong about the facts in the Keating 5 case. Mr. Bennett, the prosecutor of the case, appearing on Fox News the other day, saw nothing wrong in Senator McCain's actions and recommended that he be exonerated.

Soppy here with your facts, or perhaps you have already issued a retraction.

James Carcioppolo
jimcarci@pacbell.net


Sowell for President
It never fails that Thomas Sowell has facts to present and issues to explain.

In this coming election, I should vote for myself because I'm a better candidate than any that are left, since Romney's departure.

However, if I cast a vote for an American Conservative of the Reagan mold, it would be for Thomas Sowell!


I plan to be just as loyal to McCain as
he has been to the party over the past seven years. I will either vote for the democrat and hope that a democrat lock on the federal government drives the midterm congressional races to the conservative side as a balance of powers, or sit this one out and focus on the congressional and local races as a means of building the party.

If I am going to get stuck with a Clinton or a Clinton-impersonator, I might as well take the Clinton and let the democrats get tagged with the resulting liberal policies.

One more thing
Romney NEVER considered leaving the republican party. McCain did twice, in 2001 and again in 2004. I find it amusing that republicans are being asked to be loyal to someone who was not loyal to them. I will vote for senate, congress, etc., but not for president if my choice is McCain.

Talent Scout
Please get your facts straight.

Romney did not install gay marriage. It was court mandated. He fought it. He also did not back government funding of abortion. It also was court mandated. And he fought against giving illegals drivers licenses and in state tuition. Tom Tancredo supports him and I think he looked a little more at Mitts record than you did. Mitt also fought embryonic stem cell research and was given an award by a Massachusetts Right to Life group. Mitt created 60,000 new jobs in Mass. after many years of decline and he left the state with a 2 billion dollar surplus. At Bain Capital he created thousands of jobs and kept them in this country.

Now to Mr. McCain....

He supported embryonic stem cell research and opposed the gay marriage ban twice. He fought a Wisconsin right to life group in court and tried to keep them from putting ads on about a candidates position. He has said many times that social issues don't really concern him. As for illegal immigration, well he literally wrote the biggest amnesty plan in history. He tried twice to get it passed and has said that he would still sign it. He grudgingly told a group of business people "I'll build their damn wall." And McCain has never created a single job.

If you want to vote for McCain.......Fine. But do it because you think he is the best man for the job.

REDEFINING Conservatism
Rush Limbaugh has been warning us about the attempt by the Clinton Warroom and their Allies in the MSM redefining conservatism. Well they've done it.

Dr. Thomas Sowell has distinguished himself with his authorship of this article.

I have no doubt that John McCain will be the Republican nominee this year. I wish it weren't true, but it is. And I will vote for him, I wish it weren't true but it is.

I'm going to vote for him for one reason and one reason alone. The nex President is going o appoint at least two, maybe three Supreme Court Justices.

John McCain will have an opportunity to legitimately claim the mantle of President Reagan when he makes that first appointment. It will also be his ONLY chance to avoid instant lame-duck status.

If he nominates anyone but a genuine FEDERALIST, he will face an open revolt from within his own party.




Too late for conservatives
When all of the anti-Mormon red herring talk was brought up by the likes of Hannity, Ingraham, Mary Matalin, the MSM--to be expected--et al., (really to support their own candidates like Duncan Hunter or Fred Thompson, etc.), I pointed out the unjustness of this especially when Mitt did get some key endorsements from some prominent evangelicals.

When people like Mary Matalin and Liz Cheney and the Jeb Bush people started to realize the situation--it was too late. The anti-Mormon bigotry should have been squashed a long time ago when Huck kept driving it home on national television and his nefarious Machiavellian advisors: midget Ed Rollins and Dick "toe-sucker" Morris kept writing and talking and putting out ads about it.

Instead, the religious bigotry issue was left to fester, even after Mitt made his valiant effort at a John Kennedy-type speech. Few condemned Huckabee and McCain and their shameful advisors.

McCain and Huckabee thought all the GOP candidates were part of some larger game like "Survivor Island", and are tickled pink that they vote Mitt off the island. The reality is that this is not some made up TV reality show, but it involves the fate of over 300+ million Americans and another 20+ million parasite illegals.

I am planning to move to Alaska, where at least there one can live freer and off the land. It is just pitifully cold for most of the year--oh well, would be worth it, and I can just laugh my frozen butt off when terrorists nuke major American cities.

McCain-Huckabee - two of a kind
LOL, can you tell I'm upset? Maybe I can explain my mis-spelling of "Fred Thompson" as me simply having a famous McCain hissy fit, huh? Yeah, I guess that qualifies me as a straight talker.

McCain-Huckabee - two of a kind
Have you seen the picture that Rush is running of the McCain-Huckabee ticket? It's a riot, but oh so true. McCain and Huckabee have been in bed with each other from the beginning. Their dirty deal in West Virginia proves it. Huckabee didn't win W. Va., he was given it as a gift by McCain.

If Huckabee is supposed to be a conservative, why does he only have glowing praise for McCain? BECAUSE HE'S NOT A CONSERVATIVE. He's a tax and spend liberal, just like McCain.

If McCain becomes the nominee, I'll continue to vote Republican like I always have... I'll just write in FRED TOMPSON!!!!!!!!!!! Let's see McCain twist that into a win!!

Vote For Mike Huckabee
As time goes by we are finding the real conservative is Mike Huckabee. Vote for Mike Huckabee when he comes to your state!

Hey Peter
"Also there would be a cost of deporting these people. So let’s say $200 per person. This brings the deportation cost to 2.4 billions of tax payer moneys. "

It should not cost us a cent. Give the bill to Mexico; they supported the invasion; they made videos and ads supporting importing their poverty here. If Mexico balks, cut off all humanitarian aid to them. If they raise oil prices in retaliation, we also retaliate. It is time to play hardball with these bastards.

Vision
Frankly, I don't want a candidate with vision. I want a candidate with principles. I think that America's vision should be a composite of the balance of the interests of the people who are here, as we respond to free market forces. I don't want any central planner to decide for me what my vision ought to be.

Third world sanctuary nation
Being a sanctuary nation is part of the American ideal. That is how America was built. We have won wars because of we gave sanctuary to the outcasts of other nations.

Back when people here thought freedom was a good idea, we sang paeans to America as a sanctuary, as with Emma Lazarus's "The New Collossus", which is inscribed on the Statue of Liberty. We honored the idea in our Pledge of Allegiance that America stood for liberty and justice "for all".

But now we seem to think that we became wealthy by excluding others from our shores, rejecting economic and political refugees. The exclusionists have come to reject the fundamental economic axiom that voluntary exchange increases wealth.

wtf?
Grant was a lush, Taft was fat, Kennedy was Catholic, Nixon was a Quaker. Clinton is a pervert. I heard the same doo-doo when Kennedy was running; his loyalty will be to the Pope not the country. You can come up with many reasons not to support someone and NONE of them relevant to the qualification(s) for president. A candidate's vision for the country and how to get there are far more important than his religion, fat thighs, kinky hair, ability to rob banks "legally" or his fried squirrel recipe.

Sowell appears to be wrong on the facts
According to the Boston Globe...

In an interview with ABC News in 2007, Romney said: "There's no question that the president and (Iraqi) Prime Minister al-Maliki have to have a series of timetables and milestones that they speak about. But those shouldn't be for public pronouncement. You don't want the enemy to understand how long they have to wait in the weeds until you're going to be gone."

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/01/27/mccai n_romney_favored_iraq_withdrawal/?page=2

So Romney is saying that there should be a timetable which should be kept secret so that the enemy doesn't know how long it will be until "you're going to be gone". That is clearly a timetable for withdrawal.

I don't see how Sowell can read a statement like that and continue to maintain that Romney never said there should be a timetable. Or if Sowell didn't see the statement, I wonder how Sowell can accuse McCain of lying without making even a cursory attempt to find out if it is true.

Maybe the Boston Globe got the quote wrong, but given its widespread circulation in the media, and the seeming support it lends to McCain's statement, Sowell should have addressed it.

Foreign workers
The main reason to secure the borders is to keep potential threats out, we shouldn't be keeping out people who are coming here to create goods and services within our economy.

The problem with securing the borders first is that so long as we are excluding the large numbers of people who are coming here to work, that is a very costly proposition.

If we first create the legal channels for earnest people to immigrate, temporarily or permanently, then we will reduce the illegal problem to only those people who are coming for mischief, a relatively small number. Once the problem is thus made smaller, securing the borders will be a much easier task.

The current border problem is like keeping fans from coming onto a football field after a game--when the rush is on. It is much easier to secure the field while the game is being played, when it is in the interest of most fans to respect the barriers.

Vote
RONALD REAGAN

A dead guy will make a better president than the current field.

McCain for President?
Hell will freeze over before I vote for that liar!!!!

Lock of common sense? or for sale?
Even if you turn away from McCain conservative record, very well highlighted by Bob Dole and look only on immigration issue, you will see that his proposal although not a perfect one, was so far the best I have seen. So let’s see some facts.

1. Amnesty is what Ronald Regan (true conservative) gave to illegal’s not what John McCain proposed.
2. Any claim that we should deport all illegal’s (12 millions of them) is insane, irresponsible and unreal. Why? It is a matter of a simple math:

Let’s say we have 12 millions of illegal aliens. From that number lets say 2/3 work. This gives us a 9 millions. From the statistic I found on the internet looks like illegal’s make 30% less on average than citizens (24K a year). So now we replace 9 millions workers with 24K salaries with workers that earn 30% more.

9,000,000 x $10,000 = $90,000,000,000 (90 billions USD)

As you see theoretically this would cost employers 90 billions dollars in salaries. Obviously this number would be much bigger because of rapid demand for workforce that would be created by removing illegal’s in 120 days (per Huckabee plan).

Also there would be a cost of deporting these people. So let’s say $200 per person. This brings the deportation cost to 2.4 billions of tax payer moneys.

I am immigrant, currently US citizen, and Yes, I am AGAINST illegal immigration. I think plan similar to John McCain one would be far more realistic and less costly to us US citizens. If we let illegal’s stay (only non criminals) after they pay fees and back taxes on a temporary base program. Where, they will be not allowed to collect any money from any government program and they would have to maintain medical insurance (personal or through employer) as a part of the deal.

In my mind anybody that is for complete deportation is or insane or is like prostitute that sale himself or herself for chip vote or rating (TV or radio).

Romney Was for Time Tables
Well, looking at the same quotes and facts it seems to me that Sowell is the one lying. Romney was for time tables. Mitt is always in search of the latest drift of opinion. Mitt is no conservative. Fiscal freaks love him, but the average conservative voter is looking for a man of character. Romney keeps implying the only real job is one in the business sector or private sector, thus showing more disdain for career military men and women. The voters continue to reject the GOP columnists and radio chatterati. We do not like Mitt.

Dr. Sowell, Great Article,
Insightful as usual.

Populism
Rebbe says, "Populism is simply a political philosophy or movement that promotes the interests of common people."

I disagree. I think it is more correct to say that populism is a political philosophy that is motivated by the greed of the common people. Greed and interest are not always aligned, and that is the distinction between the two statements.

Populists tend to have a mentality that, out of greed, they want to kill the goose that lays the golden eggs. They focus on economic disparity, rather than on poverty, because their main goal is to take from the rich, even if that comes at a cost to the poor.

For example, populists want progressive taxation because, as compared to a flat tax, a progressive tax takes more dollars from the rich, and gives more dollars to the middle, and hardly benefits the poor at all. Conservatives have proposed a fair-tax with a "pre-bate" that puts the tax relief at the bottom of the scale, and takes incrementally the same from each dollar earned.

The problem with populism is that the economy is actually all linked together, and most economic effects act in a way that opposes their causes.

So the common man's plans backfire when they destroy capital formation in order to redistribute that wealth. It is like factory workers deciding that they will be wealthier if they dismantle the factory and each take home a few bricks. It actually works in the very short run, but only in the short run.

It turns out that in a free society another person's prosperity generally does not come at a cost to my own, and that class jealousy generally gives rise to harmful outcomes.

Populism is a philosophy that plays on the darker side of the human character.

As always Mr Sowell

My thanks for the succinct summary of the problem with McCain.

What Does Snow Know? Part 2
What Does Snow Know? Part 2

Anyone who has read or heard Mike Huckabee’s ten Arkansas State of the State speeches, or read his book, “Character Is The Issue” knows more than Snow. Mike Huckabee informs and inspires us, he lifts us up. Secondly, anyone who reads global terrorism or macro-economic books or papers knows more than Snow. Global terrorism and a competitive world market are not “two challenges unknown to earlier generations.” Tony, sir, you are a world-class broadcaster and journalist for nearly 30 years. You know, Snow, that you can not sew such loose threads and expect them not to unravel.

“Populism,” like “neo-cons” I am sure are insider’s code words from the Washington to Wall Street wonks. The intent is to harness our free-thinking, not highlight choices with clear, concise and compelling analysis. The hills and hollows of my region hold hardened hearts, heads and hands that value no nonsense and common sense.

Governor Huckabee has earned his standing to compete with McCain and Romney. Huckabee has outlasted Sam, Tom, Duncan, Fred and Rudy despite some political pundits popularity.

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Who shows more confidence?
Simply put- who would you feel safer with sitting across from Putin or Chavez-

Hillary with her tears-
Romney with his flip flops-
Ron Paul with his out to lunch attitude-
Obama with no experience-

or Sen. John McCain- a proven war hero?

What Does Snow Know?
What does Snow know? Part 1 of 2

As a Jew I read my charter subscription of the new print magazine Townhall, from back (right) to the front (left). I start with Tony Snow’s “Final Analysis.”

This rabbi had to pull out a dictionary and look up “populism” and “analysis” as I read Snow’s “Pessimistic Populism Never Wins: The politics of envy being pushed by Huckabee and Edwards have failed in the past and will fail in the future.”

Populism is simply a political philosophy or movement that promotes the interests of common people. Analysis is the result of study or presentation of the subject’s essential features. Mr. Snow, whom I admire and have invested prayer on his behalf before ADONAI, did not offer analysis on how former Arkansas Governor Huckabee’s political philosophy is resentful, distrustful or backward, which are the descriptors Snow knows as “populism.” I would agree with Snow’s opinion (not analysis) that Carter, Buchanan (both of whom are anti-Semitic), Edwards and Perot are losers. I strongly disagree that Governor Huckabee, who has won three state-wide elections is of the same dour disposition.

Continued Part 2 …

Thomas Sowell is right! Vote Ron Paul!
I just don't get it. Everyone(nearly) says the same thing about the RINOs and the need for conviction and principles. Yet most of you haven't asked the question "Who is Ron Paul?".
Please watch:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-I73Ac1r2Ko

Look, the MSM has tried to close the debate on the issues that matter to Conservatives, but I see they are alive and well. If all the disaffectation I read here is brought to bear in the cause of freedom on Feb 5 - then we win. Please people, don't write him off because he isn't in favor of the war without purpose. He is the strongest on national defense because when he gets elected, he'll make sure we have a country left to defend. And everything he advocates is CONSTITUTIONAL.

Now I just wonder why our man Dr. Sowell hasn't endorsed him yet.

talent scout, I think you are missing
the point.

I, at least, am not holding out that Romney is any better than McCain (though I personally find him just slightly less offensive.) I am saying that I will vote for Hillary before I vote for McCain - if he is the nomination. I voted for Thompson in NH primaries, and apparently me and 3 other people were in agreement at the time.

All the rest of the RINOs in NH seem to have split all over the place, and that left McCain with the biggest little pile of votes, and on he went - winning the biggest little pile of votes everywhere he went. He has yet to even break 50% of the Republican vote, so I don't see where he can be claimed to be the big winner, in any contest with any Dem, if he can't even get half his own side to vote for him.

I won't be voting for Romney, and if the MSM has it's way, no one else will be either, but that doesn't mean I'll vote for McCain, either. As it is, I'm seriously considering voting for Hillary.

If I'm gonna have Amnesty, High taxes, and Liberal judges shoved down my throat, at least let the Dems take the heat when it all comes crumbling down. I'll never plug my nose when voting again, and this time most especially, when the only choice is utter destruction, on BOTH sides. McCain - NEVER!

Well if betrayal is the point
boomerbabe writes: 3:03 PM
Missing the point
So many of you who think that "conservatives" will hold their nose and vote for McCain are missing the point; the point that Mr. Sowell makes so well. It is not just the fact that McCain has taken so many liberal positions. It is his betrayal of conservatives and the republican party.
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No greater betrayer to conservative values than by Romney.


1. First governor in US history to install and defend gay marriage.

2. A pro-choice abortion rights record, including participation in Planned Parenthood fundraisers and inclusion of abortion on demand as a taxpayer funded benefit in his state-controlled Massachusetts universal health care plan.

3. A long-time supporter of Massachusetts gun control laws with a public record that is anti-second ammendment.

4. A documented history of being anti-Reagan throughout the 80's and 90's and while running for office in Massachusetts.

5. Was a proponent of amnesty for illegal immigrants... until he decided to run for President.


Economy a Disaster Under Romney
The Massachusetts economy under Romney ranked 47th in the nation. That's 3RD WORST! The job losses under Romney were staggering and the job creation non-existent. Only the Hurricane Katrina states fared worse than Massachusetts under Mormon Mitt.



http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080120/ts_nm/usa_politics_romn ey_record_dc

Isn't funny how Rombots
blame everyone but Romney for his campaign's problems?

Correction
Sowell's crooked truth
Sowell and many hard-core rightists are doing all they can do to smear McCain. The irony is Sowell is doing it by using a blind bias that he accuses the media of having. Shame on you, Tommy.

Unfortunate closed-mindedness
All this nonsense coming from the hard right reminds me of the nonsense coming from the far left about their own politicians. Many liberals accuse people like Bill Clinton of being a sell-out for not being as hard core about his leftism as others are. But few ask: Do Clinton and other "sell-outs" simply not as hard core in their political beliefs? That is was is not asked in this silly argument about McCain being a sell-out. He is conservative on many issues, but when he takes stands that are more moderate, that means he is a "sell-out". It is certainly not because he honestly holds some beliefs that deviate from the far right. It is because he is a sellout and unprincipled. It would be much better for him to be like Romney, who has undeniably flip-flopped or at least shifted his positions on numerous issues. Yeah, that would be principled.

PS - Forgive for trying to bring some sense to a discussion that features a lot of nonsense. I of course know that I will be the recipient of harsh criticism for trying to do so.

Sowell's crooked truth
Sowell is doing all he can do to smear McCain (and many hard-core rightists). The irony is he is doing it by using a blind bias that he accuses the media of having. Shame on you, Tommy.

Splitting the Vote against McCain
Because of the enmity many evangelical pastors seem to have for the Mormons, and the bigoted fervency some of their followers publicly display, religion has become such an issue that it seems possible that the conservative god-fearing grassroots people of America will not be represented in the Whitehouse because the conservative vote is being split.

Disagreements about points of religious doctrine will probably always exist as long as there are humans on this planet. Those discussions should not be part of the process of electing the most qualified person to the highest TEMPORAL office in our nation.

I think it's best to leave to the hate-filled terrorists the attempt to force others to believe one's own way.

In my opinion the possibly well-meaning but bigoted individuals with a hatred for the Latter-day Saints have written so much supposedly in favor of Huckabee that they've greatly reduced that man's national electability. Americans don't want to be ruled by an extreme religious leader - that's what our international enemies are trying to impose on the world!

Dr. Romney graduated among the top 5% of his class at the prestigious Harvard Business and Law Schools.

Compare Governor Romney's brilliant intellect, his record of service to others, and his incredible achievements in finance, business, and government with John McCain's graduation at the very bottom 5% of his military class, his dismal "maverick" performance as a senator, his one time service as commander of one military base, and his lifelong reliance on the public purse for his livelihood.

Then decide who's best prepared to be leader of the free world and to defend the cause of god-fearing freedom-loving Americans!

http://mittromney.com

http://mittromney.townhall.com

Wait till Vets target McCain...
Should McCain garner the GOP nomination, I'll look forward to seeing how he handles the campaign-associated personal attacks. During the 2004 presidential campaign, we witnessed personal attacks on Bush and Kerry, much of it concerning military service. I believe many Vet groups will challenge the constant flow of the "McCain's a heroic military leader" line.

I don't know anyone that doesn't respect a former POW's sacrifice, but the respect does not default to all other facets of a person's life. IMHO, McCain's naval career does not exemplify leadership.

The GOP may neutralize sure-to-flow questions about McCain's military career (e.g., usvetdsp.com/jan08/mccain_military_record.htm), but I doubt they'll have the same level of success Clinton did obscuring Col Holmes' firsthand observations (made in his pre-election [1992] letter).

McCain Is Not A Conservative.
It appears that all of the Consistent Conservative Republicans have left the building. All that is left, are those who pretend to be Conservative Republicans, and that just is not good enough.

Missing the point
So many of you who think that "conservatives" will hold their nose and vote for McCain are missing the point; the point that Mr. Sowell makes so well. It is not just the fact that McCain has taken so many liberal positions. It is his betrayal of conservatives and the republican party. At every opportunity he slapped us in the face and smirked. He even contemplated leaving the party to hurt it. Now he and other GOP establishment want us to just shut up and vote, so they can lie some more and keep their elected positions. So what if the debt is through the roof. So what if the dollar becomes worthless. So what if we no longer manufacture anything in this country. So what if 12 million illegals are allowed to stay here and add over a trillion dollars to the national debt. So what if milk is 4 dollars a gallon and gas over 3 dollars a gallon. So what if wages are failing to keep up with inflation. So what if savings give you no return and then are taxed. So what if terrorists from Gitmo are given the rights of American citizens to a trial in U.S. courts. So what if a terrorist attack happens because we didn't want the rest of the world to think we are mean and would drip water on someones head.

And the answer to all this is to just "hold your nose and vote?" If this is my option, I will vote for none of the above.

Because McCain lies
Does that mean Romney tells the truth?
Ha ha
Romney is the epitome of the lying politician.
He runs as a liberal in Massachusetts, and as a conservative for President.
Let the pro Romney promoters condemn McCain, rightfully for his lies, but watch how hypocritical they are to cover up for Romney. like Thomas Sowell, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, and Laura Ingram are doing.
McCain lies are horrible, but Romney lies are forgiven and not worth talking about by any of these carnival like shysters.
Romney lies too.

Right On
Very good article Mr. Sowell people can argue it either way from now til November if they want but the bottom line is as you said HE Sold Out the Republican party a long time ago. He left the party and I for one say good riddance and keep going Mc.

If Romney wins the nomination I hope you
If Romney wins the election I hope you like no gun rights, universal/canadian style health care. And higher taxes and over bearing government telling you how to live your life. Why? because hillary clinton will be president. Well atleast for 25k you can spend the night in the Lincoln bedroom.

What i wrote to TS
Sir,
I thought your one little paragraph about John Mccain's involvement with the keating 5 was a cheap shot at best. It was at best 1% of the story and does not explain his own voice and responsibility in cleaning that mess up. Maybe thats why he took on campaign finance reform. While I do not agree with most of mccain-feingold, I do believe he was trying. And it is our failure in not defeating alot of it in the halls of congress. Write articles on Romney's flip flops or Huckabee's inflexibility.But if you want to take equal cheap shots of the other republicans, I am sure you can dig something up.

Great article!!
Go Mitt!!!!

Changed my mind
I was planing on voting for McCain until I heard Romney speak on a local L.A. station. I listened to him in the past and its just been yada yada yada politican speak.

This 20 minutes he said more about what he stands for than all the speechs he's made in the last 9 months.

Listen for your selves, it recorded at http://www.johnandkenshow.com

John and Ken have the most popular drive time talk show in S. CA on KFI.

if it's mccain - GO OBAMA
if it is mccain - GO OBAMA.

there is nothing that mccain can deliver to the conservatives. he burned that bridge and gave us the finger while doing it.

mccain is against:
1. tax cuts
2. lowering corporate taxes
3. free speech
4. conservative judges (didn't like alito)

mccain supports:
1. amnesty
2. AGW legislation

he is a liberal democrat and is WORSE that the obama/clinton

if it is mccain, be a maverick - VOTE OBAMA

McCain
McCain speaks with forked tongue!

Alzheimer's jokes are OK
Jewish comedians on TV have always told Jewish jokes and blacks have been allowed to tell jokes on and about the particular foibles of blacks without that being considered offensive by most. Polish comedians are allowed to tell Polish jokes. If McCain chooses to tell Alzheimer's jokes I feel he should be granted similar license.

Get out and VOTE
I can see more people such as Dr. Sowell telling the truth about BIG Mc and Romney. Yet? Why are true Republican conservative not gettine out and voting is my question? Why is BIG Mc in front? The reason is simple....Ask Mitt he will tell you. Mitt needs you to vote and get all your friends to all so. That is how you WIN. Now go do it---------> before it is too late.

John Doormat!

Hitting Bottom
There is so much wrong with this country that it seems like we will need to hit bottom before we can correct anything.

We wll know we have hit bottom when the government proposes a new "Dept. of Happiness".

no surprize
It would not surprize me in the least to hear that a lot of Huck's financial support to stay in the race came from the McCain camp.
A vote for Huck is a vote for McCain. Huck is 'hucking' for the big payoff with a name on the GOP ticket....A 'faustian' deal.
Never going to happen.
He has NO chance to win the nomination and is only staying around to prevent a nomination.
Geez, even John Edwards had a clue.

Hope: One Possible Scenario
McCain gets elected. Picks Huckabee or Thompson as VP.

Not only left side, but entire head continues to swell up and bursts.

We get a conservative President, who gets re-elected for another term!

Okay that's mean, but so is making fun of Alzheimers victims while President Reagan and Nancy were living through its ravages.

Why I won't vote for McCain
Anyone that tries to say that he is not going to allow an amnesty for the illegal aliens eight months after he tried to ram it down our throats, is a LIAR. When this country goes down the tubes for the next four years, I want it to be a D in the Whitehouse, not someone CLAIMING to be an R. Besides, if McCain somehow wins, we will probably be stuck with him again in four years. If Hitlery or Obama wins, maybe we can get a real conservative running next time.

BTW, I heard a sound clip of McCain the other day where he said Hitlery would make a good President. Obviously his judgement is even more impaired than many realize.

Mr. Sowell...
I REALLY like reading your stuff, and it was great to see you on Hannity & Colmes the other night even if both of those guys are a little bit "extreme"!

Everyone has ideals and their own personal view of the world, but I have found very few people in your position willing to take a step back and actually analyze ALL the facts.

You search for the truth placed in its proper context, NOT just facts that back up your personal point of view.

I sincrely ADMIRE and RESPECT you for that.

There are a things either you are...
...or you are not. You are You are either a conservative or, you are not.

Juan McCain is not a conservative. McCain is not going to be our next President because millions of the Republican conservative base will not vote for him.

The difference between the conservative base and the rino base of the Republican part is that the conservative base will not lower itself and vote for this amnesty candidate.

So all you Republican rino's out there enjoy the ride because in the general election, Juan McCain is going to get creamed!

You are either a Reagan conservative Republican,or you are not.

jetpilot
Yeah, Hillary sure plays well with others. Yikes!

reply to Michiganman
There's another name for 'moderate Republicans,' and that is "Democrats.' There was a time when the Republican party had a moderate center and a mildly liberal left wing. This last part included all those demonized "Rockefeller" Republicans (aka RINOs) whose sins will live on as long as real conservatives need to find traitors in the ranks.

The Republican party is now as close to an ideologically conservative party as this country has ever seen, so moderate Republicans are simply not needed. Conservatives don't need their money, their votes, or their allegiance. They have failed the loyalty tests that conservatives require, and that's that.

So, Michiganman, your sort of Republican is both an endangered species and a despised minority. Come over to where it's much more friendly, on the liberal side where you really belong.




Reaganite
At least your honest. Bush is no conservative. And neither are most of these clowns like Cunningham and Foley. But if you think you can win without moderates then you might as well vote third party. I'm going to stick with McCain if he's the nominee, but Romney has changed his mind on so many issues that I just can't trust him. Maybe in four years Hunter or Thompson will do better( my first two choices).

CONSERVATIVES FOR MITT
MITT SUPPORTERS, GO TO MITT'S WEBSITE AND CONTRIBUTE TO HIS CAMPAIGN TO STOP THE MCCAIN TRAIN WRECK EXPRESS.

ITS NOT TOO LATE TO GIVE MITT SOME MOMENTUM GOING INTO SUPER TUESDAY AND TAKING THIS THING ALL THE WAY TO THE CONVENTION, AND THEN ALL THE WAY TO THE WHITEHOUSE. ROMNEY IS THE LAST AND BEST HOPE OF THE REMAINING REPUBLICAN CANDIDATES TO PRESERVE CONSERVATIVE PRINCIPLES AND MAINTAIN THE REAGAN COALITION INTACT.

FLOOD MITT'S SITE AT http://www.mittromney.com/homepage AND GIVE TO HIS CAMPAIGN, EVEN IF IT ISN'T A LOT. EVERY CONTRIBUTION HELPS.

Gambler
You wrote: "The historical lesson here is far left Dems never win, and center Repubs never win."

Name one far right republican who was considered far right before he was elected. Not Reagan (he was accused of liberalism).

I don't think someone considered "far" wins general elections (sometimes they move further left or right afterwards). Who's the last radical elected?

Real conservatives
I don't think George W. Bush is a real conservative. Compassionate conservatism has proven to be just another name for liberalism. There are a few issues he's been conservative on, but on too many others he's a liberal.

Just because you run as a conservative doesn't mean you are one. I look at actions; talk is cheap. People who have a track record that backs up their claims are much more credible than those who have suddenly "seen the light" on their path to power. From my observations, they lose that "Road to Washington" conversion once they get there.

We're not all sheeple. Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me. I was fooled in 2004 and don't intend for it to happen again.

I'll vote third party or not at all before I vote for another George W. Bush or John McCain or Mike Huckabee. That probably goes for Mitt Romney, too.

real conservatives
Real conservatives don't vote for NCLB? Bush is a so-called conservative.Real conservatives don't go wild spending money? Then who the heck is doing it? Olympia Snowe? You can say these guys aren't conservatives if you want, but they ran as conservatives and were elected as conservatives.If they aren't the conservative then who the heck are?And by the way, I stand up for the constitution and it's freedoms as well, no matter what you try to imply.

Michiganman
It's not conservatives who have destroyed the Republican party. It's the Republicans who ran as conservatives, then acted as liberals once in office, who brought about this fiasco.

Real conservatives didn't go wild spending taxpayers' money and putting us further into debt to foreigners. They didn't leave our borders completely open and unprotected and then push for amnesty for illegal aliens (McCain-Kennedy) so big campaign donors could have cheap Mexican labor.

Real conservatives didn't vote for more federal control over public schools (No Child Left Behind) and an expensive entitlement program to provide drugs to seniors. They didn't support restricting the First Amendment (McCain-Feingold).

Real conservatives stand up for the Constitution and the freedoms it gives to "we, the people."


No silver spoon, but....
Sarah: "we know..he (John McCain) was not born rich."

Very true. He married into wealth, though, a month after divorcing his disabled first wife.

Michiganman - ''Why do only...''
--
"...conservatives get to decide who is our party's nominee?"

Gee, I dunno. Perhaps because only real conservatives (us "constitutional government" types, as opposed to the religious whackjobs who only play conservatives on prime-time TV) have a sound grounding in political principles and a dedication to something more than RINO pork and perquisites?

A friend of mine defines the sort of "grownups" you describe as "Rotarian Socialists."

You know.

"Three cheers for free enterprise, and keep those tariffs, quotas, sweet-heart deals and set-asides a-coming!"

Contrast the Goldwater conservaties with the "Rockefeller Republicans."

Who's got the moral high ground, and who's festering down in the RINO swamp?

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McCain
Normally I agree with Sowell on just about everything but not this time. I will vote for McCain(I did).and I will never vote for Romney( I didn't). Why do only conservatives get to decide who is our party's nominee? What about us moderates? Do we have to leave the GOP? Your conservatives(like Delay and Foley) have nearly destroyed our party.Senators(GOP) are retiring because they see a bloodbath coming. It's time for the grownups to retake the party from the children(so-called conservatives).If you don't like the GOP choice go start your own party.

Tsk. Correction...
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That top line *should* read:

"...who is dismissed as 'unelectable' by the McCain-worshipping MSM, and who is the image of hate and contempt for the 'Rockefeller Republican' leadership of today's GOP..."

Editing on the fly to suit the character limit of this "Comments" box can produce some interesting errors.


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"I’d love to be remembered as a Goldwater Republican. But I don’t pretend in any way to live up to the legacy of the man who literally changed the face of politics in America."

-- John McCain
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Every vote for Ron Paul...
--
...who is dismissed as "unelectable" by the McCain-worshipping MSM, and who is the poster child for the "Rockefeller Republican" leadership of today's GOP...

Is a message to the Republican Party, saying:

(1) There's not a hound's chance in hell that we will ever vote for a Democrat or a RINO

(2) This is a vote you *COULD* have had if you'd had the guts to advocate government under the rule of law.

What Ron Paul's campaign is proving is that there's a real voting base - however small the manipulative pollsters are trying to portray it - that has been energized and engaged by Dr. Paul's message.

This base is new. Except for Reagand and Goldwater, they've never given a damn about *ANY* presidential candidate nominated by either the Democrats or the GOP.

Until now, they've been a "Thanks, but why bother? You're all sunzabitches, and we hate you to death" bunch of people.

Right now - with Ron Paul to present a voice that speaks for their principled conservative "Get government to hellangone out of my life!" concerns - they're the Republican Party's voters and campaign conributors to lose.

And with either McCain *OR* Romney, the Republican Party is going to lose them.

What do they represent in any election?

Three percent? Eight percent? Ten percent?

How about "the margin of victory"?

The candidacy of Dr. Paul proves that they're out there, they *CAN* be made to identify themselves with the Republican Party, and they're *MOTIVATED* to strike back at the socialists masquerading as "Liberals."

But to get them, you have to rid the GOP of its present RINO contemptibility.

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mccain
you can tell he is lying when his lips are moving,i would prefer romney tho i dont agree with his religion i do think romney is a good man,even as bad as mccain is he would be preferable to obama or clinton

''Works-and-plays-well-with-others''
--
...is something I like to see on my six-year-old grandson's report card.

For President of the United States, I want to read something more like:

"Stubborn sumbitch absolutely unwilling to compromise one goddamned bit in his defense of the Bill of Rights."

This desire for a "go-along-to-get-along" human-shaped pile of mulch behind the desk in the Oval Office is simultaneously inexplicable and pucking contemptible.

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jetpilot..your altimeter ...
is about .5k off...hope your not flying instruments :)

jetpilot - Great argument
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So you're saying that "works-and-plays-well-with-others" is your prime criterion for judging the suitability of a political candidate?

Per jetpilot:

"We have an amateur in office for 8 years. Time to get someone that knows how to work with others."

Great argument!

For Vidkun Quisling.

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vidkun_Quisling

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VinnieB...I say put them all in ...
the octagon and see who stands at the end. :)

clinton vs mccain
The only way I would vote for mccain - is if clinton were running against him.
Other than that - I'm planning to jump ship in this case and give obama a shot. mccain is turning out to be a lying grinnin' idiot.

Yes
News FLASH:

The thing that is happening ,is all the WEB blogs, pundits, Fox news and conservative talk radio are realizing THEY DON'T HAVE AS MUCH POWER AS THEY THOUGHT. PEOPLE ACTUALLY IGNORE THEM. People actually MAKE THEIR OWN MIND UP!!


Go McCain, Go Hilliary.

We have an amateur in office for 8 years. Time to get someone that knows how to work with others.

Obama is too inexperienced and wide eyed "I have a dream". Mitt is too partisan and has shown no back bone and will be happy to be the PARTY puppet and do what ever it takes the be popular with the GOP. NO THANKS. The GOP elite is corrupt, as much or more than the DEMS.

Yikes
I have a problem with the Vote Hillary option regarding Sen McCain. Conservatives have been making progress on the judge problem over the last few years. Hillary will be predictable, McCain extremely unreliable.

The judicial nominations are of paramount importance. We should be scrambling to get Romney or anybody in there.

If we have a General Election with the candidates being Clinton / McCain this battle is over. It could take decades to repair the damage, if ever.

Uhh sorry about the double.
The first disappeared but now its back. Kind of like a clinton we all know.

I say
I'm tired of holding my nose to vote. Lets just do what is right and let the chads fall where they may.

Vic and Stan
Well stated. I'm tired of holding my nose to vote. I say lets do what's right and then let the chads fall where they may.

You can divide the political world . . .
into two camps . . . the feminized and the otherwised. Those who thrive on logic, reason, and substance have remained conservative as the Republicans have separated themselves from the Reagan legacy and are sprinting head-long after the Democrats who have already cleared the cliff's edge.

Those who see right through the shallow mendacity of pandering girly-men like McCain, Ah-Nuld, Harry Reid, et al, know that they are simply willing to feed the gullible government-educated masses what they want - - a load of horse dung to cover up their true lust for power.

What a bunch of sell-outs.

charlie:
I can't vote for any of the other big government socialists either. But the dems, libs, and "independents who have been voting for McLame in the primaries certainly won't vote for him in the general election if he should get the nomination. It wouldn't surprise me if he doesn't carry a single state in the general election.

Stan
don't stay home. vote for a real democrat instead of McVain, a mere wannabe Democrat!
At least the Dems will only have a one term run, and conservatives can come back stronger than ever in 2012, given all the pain the people will fell from a dem in the whitehouse and a dem congress!

MCCAIN QUESTIONABLE AT BEST
The more I hear McCain, the more I wonder if I want a man in the Whitehous with one finger on the "button." A great military hero? Yes. The man for President? No. Too hot of a temper. It all started after the McCain-Kennedy "amnesty" plan was ripped apart by the American people.

McCain is for border control and no amnesty (so he says), but yet put Juan Hernandez on his staff. That speaks volumes for McCain's true position. I can't trust the man.

Reagan defeated the Soviets with a strong economy. My choice is for a businessman. My choice is Romney.

No vote for mccain.
If McCain is the nominee, I will stay home on election day.

I will not vote for anyone who advocates completely open borders and hires a "Mexico First" individual as a close advisor.

I will not vote for anyone against tax cuts and for tax increases.

I will not vote for anyone who wants to expand the federal government at the expense of individual freedom.

I will not vote for anyone who works to subvert the Constitution.

I will not vote for anyone who wants to destroy the United States economy in the name of the global warming scam.

etc., etc.

And I will not vote for anyone who is the darling of the leftist socialists.

McCain, if nominated, may set a record by losing more states than the chumps who ran against Reagan.

Vic
Just get EVERYONE you can to vote for Romney. We'll beat him fair & square or NOT AT ALL!

Vic
Just get EVERYONE you can to vote for Romney. We'll beat him fair & square or NOT AT ALL!

education....
Listening/reading, one hears that McVain's lifetime CU rating is ~80%; no one has calculated this figure during this millennium, however.

This illustrates why it's vital to transcend rhetoric and go one-on-one with those who would gut the GOP that Reagan rebuilt.

The fundamental philosophical/operational slit in the GOP is over the Illegals, for it is easy to ID those who are McVain apologists simply by notng those who didn't VIGOROUSLY oppose Sh-Amnesty. That Mitt supports LEGAL immigration hasn't resonated, thus far, but it must be emphasized. That McVain told Russert he's sign his rejected-bill is telling...and is a "story" that must be TOLD (despite the fact that he has dropped that admission when subsequently queried.


Mitt's the MAN!

It is a trap!
The media wants McCain to be the nominee to put the nail in the coffin of the Republican Party.

Picture it - the Dems are going to run a very eloquent, attractive young Black man or a Woman with a political machine behind her. The Republicans will have an old man, not too quick on the draw, who can't remember what he said yesterday. It will be a visual picture for the world to see - the hip, vibrant, "new face" of America versus the old, White, male dominated voice of yesterday. It will be voting for the old guard or for "Change".

Not only do conservative Republicans not like McCain, moderate Republicans don't either. They know amnesty was the deal breaker for most folks and those pushing McCain are people in on the joke. The Dems aren't scared of McCain - they need him to show the sharp contrast between the party of "now" and the party of "yesterday". Mitt will not allow that picture to be so clear (neither would Huck - but they will then go through every sermon he ever preached to find ammunition against him and I can imagine the sound bites). Fred Thompson would have given them the picture they wanted - but he was quick on the draw and looked the part of a leader, so would have given them a run for their money.

The Dems want and need McCain to be the nominee.

I will not vote for McCain - period. I learned my lesson with GWB. Compromise is compromise and I refuse to do it again.

a few comments...
The thread running through these pro-Mitt comments is that one must be prncipled...and that McVain hasn't been. The lament that some have noted is that one wonders why so many people held-out from supporting Mitt until the past few days. The remedy that is threatened (and, certainly, this may not only be applicable nationally) is the need for a purging of the GOP, risking shrinkage to help educate those who would then greatly enlarge it.

What should be done?

We're not yet at the Coulter "Fail-Safe" alarm-zone; I hesitate quoting her in light of her recent anti-Semitism, but she always rings true (otherwise) when succinctly summarizing the key political forces at-play. Clearly, she errs when taken seriously, for this type of thinking was behind the D's incorrect decision to stop protesting the 2000-Elections "for the good of the country" while planning to portray Bush as sufficiently weak to help them take Congress in 2002; we all know that 9/11 intruded on this plan.

If nothing else, the SCOTUS hangs in the balance.

Nevertheless, the question I posed a few hours ago remains operative, for it reflects essential truths. The McCain supporters are luke-warm and--if not actually D's--could be persuaded to vote for the R (Mitt); the same is not true of many loyal-R's who despise McCain's lack of principles.

This may invert common wisdom, but no one wants to be taken for granted, and the Immigration posturing alone is sufficient justification to despise him. And his poor debate coupled to his dirty-trick (noting Mitt's refusal to go personal) is conclusory. He would be another McGovern (in reverse).

Read "Back to Basics" by Michael Zak for a greater appreciation of true Republicanism. Then lament the tardiness of those now flocking to Mitt. Then hope that this stampede will be sufficient, within only a few short days....

what cookie said
"See the recent ex-Senator from Georgia, Zell Miller, as the proof. Very similar actions, completely different labeling by the MSM.

...but there is no liberal bias in the media......."

"Maverick" as well as "Straight Talk" in the MSM is the same as "bi-partisanship". Meaning; to cowtow to liberals.

Georgetwin
Maybe I could drive over to GA and register as a Republican there and vote in that primary also.

I AGREE WITH ANN COULTER

.....And all the others on this thread who said it is better to let Hillary win than to elect McCain ...

.....If McCain wins ...the Democrats will get everything they want and more ...if Hillary wins the Conservative Republicans that are left in the Senate can block most of her agenda thus setting up a Conservative Republican for 2012 ...her judicial appointments can be filibustered ...her spending Bills stripped and sabotaged causing her Presidency to fail ...

.....The Republican Party needs an enema to purge out the RINOs and Moderates so that Conservatives can regain control in 2012 .....COLOSSUS

Mark and note well
elected officials and so-called right-of-center journalists (writing for the Weekly Standard and WSJ, for example) who sing the praises of John McCain.

They are showing us their true RINO colors -- and conservatives would do well to "consider the source" in the months and years ahead.

The Medveds and Fred Barneses were easy to spot during last summer's immigration battle -- they proved themselves so patently open-borders.

But others are more surprising, like Ted Olsen, who yesterday gave McCain a ringing endorsement.

Know your enemy or you will get sucked in. We are in a war for our country's future.

Just say NO to John McCain.

False Support
I'm tired of voting for someone because I'm afraid their opponent will win. Politicians take that support as confirmation voters endorse their policies rather than oppose the other candidate's policies. It seems we have too many candidates now and the final candidate should be a choice between the top two vote getters rather than splitting the vote so that a minority candidate like John McCain can win. McCain has failed to win the majority of conservative voters in every contest thus far. This is a dangerous game for the Republican party because it could well mean the end of it.

More Power to 'ya Dr. Sowell
I've said it myself, even a war hero can become a traitor... John McInsane has done so. This man should cross the aisle like Jumpin Jim, Lincoln Chaffee and the rest of the RINO's.

Thomas Sowell on McCain
Thomas Sowell's comments regarding John McCain are dead-on and should be taken seriously. McCain would be the death of the Republican Party. While I wouldn't vote for McCain, I couldn't vote for either of the Democratic candidates. That leaves me without a presidential choice. Let's pray for, hope for, and campaign for Romney.

Jerry B. Houston

Spicey said:
"I wonder why the US Constitution states explicitly forbids any religious test for political office. I wonder how Jews, blacks and Muslims would feel about Sarah's need for religious tests for higher office."

Did anyone suggest a legal religious standard for office? I must have missed it.

The Constitution doesn't tell voters what religious standard they can apply. If a person only wants to vote for their own religion then they are entitled to that standard... they just can't put it into law forcing others to accept it.

If you hold sincere religious faith, it shapes your worldview... and worldview is vital in politics. If a voter truly thinks Romney's Mormonism, Clinton's Methodism, or Obama's father's muhammadism might skew their worldview... then that is THEIR right and you have no business trying to intimidate them not to hold it.

Vic
Only if you are A Dead Democrat!

Farewell conservative GOP
the reality that the GOP is an amnesty, big government, big tax party is just really depressing. Peopole, it never works.

I'm so disillusioned at the moment that even ron pauls anti-war rhetoric is making sense. Bush has really taken us all to the cleaners, and a mccain nomination will seal the deal as
the Bush coup continues.

(political) death to big government republicans.

I knew Ronald Reagan and...
John you're no Ronald. Don't disrepect the of RR by claiming his mantle and saying you were a foot soldier in his revolution. You are a traitor to every thing he stood for. Shame on you!

POW or Traitor
Look when he came back from Vietnam, McCain's family connections in the military saved his butt from being tried for treason for what he did while there. The popular stories of his "heroism" are trumped up and designed to enhance his electability. Kerry anyone?

And his scandal in the Keating 5 was well known. However the evidence against him was "lost" before it went to trial. My Mom lost all of her retirement at that time thanks to him and his cronies and had to restart but never recovered before being forced to retire.

This is why my family and I spit on the ground in disgust anytime he is mentioned as anything other than a thief, a traitor and a scam artist.

How does this qualify this guy to be president without insulting every military person, honest worker or retired person? His lies and distortions are nothing new. It's his character and always has been. Where's the surprise?

Thanks Hank!
Thanks!

Reality
As long as the MSM keeps say McInsane is the ONLY one to beat the dems, NOTHING will change.

HankReardon
Time to pave over McCain with some of your "metal."

Footsoldier for the Reagan Revolution
But he's long been AWOL since.

This straight talk express is derailed and veering left.

Stop the runaway train.

BIGSKYER
Hear, hear!

McCain
Does anybody really think McCain can beat Obama? I mean he might be o.k. against the Clintons, primarily because just as many people hate the Clintons as love them. We conservatives don't hate McCain, but we're (or at least I am) convinced that he hates us.
There is a serious chance that Obama can beat the Clintons, as Democrat titans are forming allegiences (for future benefits no doubt). If the Clintons win they will of course pull out all the stops on McCain. He will fire back in kind but will miss wildly as the drive by media aligns itself with the vast left wing conspiracy. The job will be up to the likes of us (bloggers and talkradio fans) to expose the Clintons like never before, and hopefully rally enough sensible people to win in a nail biter. This is the only scenario in which McCain wins.

A young looking empty suit like Obama would likely win forty states against the angry old man, especially because conservatives most likely will not rally to beat Obama as ferociously as they will the Clintons. No conservative support, no drive by media support, no money, adds up to no chance for senator McCain.

Felk
Good-bye and good riddance.

Mr. Sowell
Loved the comparison to Benedict Arnold!! Priceless!

I have had it!
I'm one of the old folks reffered to here,and consider myself fiscal and social Conservative and perhaps unlike many other old folks, I do have a knowledge of McCain and his shennanigas and been aware what kind of a character he is ever since the Keating 5 scandal to present. I am not afraid to NOT vote for Mcain, as maybe the older ones are. I had no use for the man since the first time he ran for President. As a retired military man and Viet Nam vet, it only adds to my disgust when he claims to be such a war hero, because he spent time in a POW Camp.

Agree with the many writing here concerning the disposition the Republican party and the direction it is headed; the Republican congress when it was in Control of both houses, their spending of our money if it were their own, their spineless behavior when someone from the other party said "Boo" to them, their rotten behavior and Cowardliness in the Senate during Clinton impeachment trial, their general indifference to their constiuency. Need I say more? For over two years now I have rejected their pitiful pleas for funding, and never again will I doante a single Nickle to the Republican Party until they clean up their act>

Nuff said for now!




I liked Dr Sowell
for a very long time, but he can kiss my grits.
This piece does not stand alone. It must be read in combination where he attacked McCain for being old.
Lets face it he's just being booringly partisan.

I don't need people like Sowell, or anyone else for that matter, to tell me who to vote for.
Dr, you should have stuck to ideology and left the personalities out of it.

Goodbye Dr Sowell.

Georgetwin
Will they let me vote again?

civil war
if romney gets the nod, wouldn't McVain's supporters support him?

if McVain gets the nod, wouldn't a lot of Mitt's supporters not support him?

What are the implications of this observation?



Can someone answer this
First let me say I am very pro military, conservative, and Damn proud to be an american. With that said... I have a few questions about McCane (with respect to his POW sacrifice)

1. How does being a POW qualify anyone as POTUS?
(if it does, we have potential presidents in Guantanimo) He sort of sat out vietnam as a POW

2. McCane says he commanded the largest squadron in the navy. Was this during a war? or Peace? Big difference, during war you lead, during peace you play golf.

3. who would he have as a vice? a republican? or Leiberman?

4. He says he knows how to fix the border problem, because he is from arizona. So what, Arizona has the Bigggest holes in the border. Is he for real saying he can fix it when he HASN'T done it in his home state?

I wanted Thompson, now Romney, but NEVER McCane
I respect his POW sacrifice (not like he had a choice) but I respect nothing else about this man

Don't believe lies about Mitt
I don't want a hot-headed, liberal, lying president, which is what we would have if McCain is elected. Mitt is a honest proven leader and the Left know that so has an all out war against him. Don't fall for it. Vote for Romney.

GunnyG-Vic
We have about 90 hours to stop Juan McAmnesty. LET'S GET BUSY!

To Bobby A Sincere Man
Buddy writes:
Friday, February, 01, 2008 10:41 AM
Sowing and Reaping
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I agree completely that mud slinging as smearing are detestable. Telling lies, like McCain and Huckabee.

Did you hear Mitt lie in any way about Huckabee's positions and record or on McCains? He never lied, because if was true, and that is his purgative to point out his record compared to theirs. The truth.

Mud slinging and smears or out and out lies, on the eve of the vote, which cannot be discovered until after the vote. Now you know why Florida upped their primary, to smoke out the last GOP fake.

Thomas Sowell as I recall said, "It's amazing the panic an honest man will cause a multitude of hypocrites."

Yes, "Reap we do just what we sow." Mitt has challenged the corruption in Washington from start to finish, and that is for you and me, our families and all America, and for freedom of worship in righteousness and truth.

Please do not fail to visit Mitt's web, to get to know the real Mitt, you need to know his motives, and you can only learn that by knowing what hurts in his heart, or falls below his standards. http://mittromney.com/

Mitt like an iceberg, we only see 10% of his true value, the other 90% is in the doing. His successes tower above all the candidates. Prove me wrong!

genius excerpt...
"It should be called the "sell-out express" because McCain has sold out not only with amnesty for illegal aliens but also sold out the First Amendment with the McCain-Feingold "campaign finance reform" bill that was supposed to take big money out of political campaigns, but blatantly has not."

Thank you, Dr. Sowell. Very nice work, as usual.

I will say this on behalf of McCain, though: he's slightly less egregious than disingenuous Mitt-Flopper. I won't be voting for either. And neither will beat the Dem nominee.

God save us from Hillary. Ugh. But if 4 years of Hillary is what it takes for the horribly corrupt, sell-out GOP to become conservative again, so be it.

Romney and McCain... if this is the best the Republican Party can do, it's a pretty sad day. This party doesn't deserve my support anymore.

I'm With Ann Coulter
I will not vote for McCain, ever.

He dated his rich second wife-to-be while still married to his injured first wife. Great character and the mainstream media will jump on that as soon as he gets the nomination. McCain is a Clinton (sleazy liar) AND a bobdole (tired old man who was next in line). Yuck.

Clinton
Clinton didn't ever win a majority. Lincoln got only 39.8% in 1860--didn't keep those two contained in their stalls now did it?

You Warm My Heart And Old Bones!
"The Laws of Our Nature"
"What molds or shapes the will? What determines our disposition and attitude that motivates and controls all behavior? There is a law in our nature that makes us who we are. yes, that motivates and kindles the fires of desire.
This has been known since the beginning of time. It is so simple, so neglected and misunderstood. It works upon us every moment throughout our lives. It is behind everything we have done and all that we will ever do. It is the ignored law of our nature. It is the principle behind our disposition, our attitude and behavior. "
"What is this force in our nature that makes us who we are? Do not over look it! Do not underestimate its power! Do not misuse it—because it is a double edged sword! Cast it off and you will never achieve anything of worth! Use it wrongly or selfishly and you will cause misery, unhappiness and sorrow to unborn nations!"

"Now is our finest hour, and every moment destiny. The choices we make to day in ignorance or wisdom with make or break us as a nation. Why have things fallen so fast so quickly lately? Because of corruption in Washington, "Earmarks is a little one, the 10% we see, is the tip of the iceberg. Shouldn't we be more informed." http://mittromney.com/

"We are what we are because, We are attracted to the things that we secretly and openly most love. Yes, We are attracted to the things that we secretly and openly most love. That is the real passion for the values we cherish in our life, leading to bliss or misery."

Please do not fail to visit Mitt's web, to get to know the real Mitt, you need to know his motives, and you can only learn that by knowing what hurts in his heart, or falls below his standards. http://mittromney.com/

Mitt like an iceberg we only see 10% of his true value, the other 90% is in the doing. His successes tower above all the candidates. Prove me wrong!

bot_feeder
"So, Mitt Romney is deeply flawed, so the Republican Party simply declares unconditional surrender to the Democrats by nominating McCain."

No, we conditionally surrender with McCain. We unconditionally surrender by electing Hillary.

Vote for Hillary?
Only if there are no other choices besides McCain. Fortunately, there will be a handful of other choices. The question you have to ask yourself is this: Do I want to cast my vote as an affirmation of Hillary, or a condemnation of McCain? If affirmation, by all means, vote Hillary. If condemnation, please please please vote third party. Hillary strutting around proclaiming 'the majority have spoken' will not keep her appropriately penned in her stall.

In the Spirit of Goldwater
I've been reading "The Conscience of a Conservative" (1960) by Barry Goldwater lately.

If it weren't for Goldwater and that book, few of us would likely be here today discussing Conservatism of any kind, because it was Goldwater who helped the people take back the Republican party from the big-government, establishment Republicans who have since found their way back in.

There is a new book that promises to be the perfect resurrection of Goldwater's masterpiece. It is currently #4 on Amazon.com's bestseller list; the only book of the top twenty that has to be pre-ordered because it hasn't even been released yet!

It is called "The Revolution: A Manifesto."

The author is the man whom Barry Goldwater, Jr. called "the only Goldwater Republican in this election."

Ron Paul

Response to Liberty Dave
I agree with what you said about both Dr. Sowell and Dr. Williams having excellent viewpoints. And I am certainly not taking either of them to task for failing to endorse a candidate. What I AM challenging both of them on is their failure to even MENTION Dr. Paul in ANY of their myriad articles on the race so far. It's more than just a bit suspicious. I can understand the MSM blackout of Dr. Paul because his beliefs fly in the face of their interests, but I expected a lot more from Dr. Sowell and Dr. Williams.

Another Republican for Hillary
Sign me up! I am a devoted Republican and will remain so forever, but McCain at the top of the ticket and my vote goes to Hillary (or Obama).

But I have confidence in real Republicans. We did it with Harriet Miers, we did it with Dubai Ports and most famously we did it with MCCAIN/MCCAIN/MCAIN-Kennedy!!!!!! Let me repeat, we had to rise up and defeat MCCAIN/MCCAIN/MCCAIN-Kennedy!!!!!

We can do it again---let's put the angry little man out of the race and into line for the Viagra spokesman spot where he belongs!

Ann Coulter on Hannity
I saw Coulter on Fox last night and she was livid over a McCain nomination. She said she would vote for anybody except McCain, even if it means voting for a Democrat. I agree.

so Mitt is deeply flawed

So, Mitt Romney is deeply flawed, so the Republican Party simply declares unconditional surrender to the Democrats by nominating McCain.

Byler

Even McCain's biggest champions, the liberal media, have chastized him for lying about Romney on the timetables.


Madame speaker, President Hillary
I do hope you all pat yourselves on the back when dear leader, Hillary is elected El Presidente (or would that be La Presidente?). Romney is a lousy campaigner and a remarkably boring, uninspiring leader. This was his election to lose and he has done an outstanding job of it! Bob Dole did not lose because of his liberal leanings, he lost because he encompassed the very qualities that Mitt has. Do you all really believe he will somehow suddenly become somethi else before November? He changed many of his core beliefs and positions to run for President, but changing one's personality is not so simple.

Coulter is right

Coulter shows both intelligence and courage in saying vote Hillary rather than McCain.

The only way to stop the Democratic agenda is to vote for the Democrat in November. (unless, by some miracle, McCain doesn't get the nomination).

It will take guts for conservatives to stick to this when there will be all sorts of pressure from the establishment to vote for the so-called Republican.

We'll see if they have the courage all the way into November.

dullhammer, WRT your 4:42am post
your comments fit me exactly. I did not feel I had the need to remind others of McCains shortcomings. They appeared to be so obvious to me that I thought he would never get this far, let alone be the front runner.

And you know what? Him being the front runner scares the H E double hockeysticks out of me. So, in answer to your question, Heck yes I'm throwing my primary support ot Romney. And yes, I'm a conservative Christian.

If McCain is the Republican choice in November, I will simply vote third party. I might have a chance to support Ron Paul after all.

I believe McCain is a traitor
to the conservative cause. He has not manifested conservatism with his voting record during the last decade. Time and time again he has not only reached across the aisle, but has leaped across the aisle to vote with the Democrats. Witness: McCain/Feingold, McCain/Kennedy, Gang of 14. To this day, he supports (and has publicly indicated so) assimilation of illegal aliens into American society.

The man is a megalomaniac and a liar. He is a small, power-hungry, ambitious-beyond-belief tiny little angry squirt. I voted for Romney in my state's primary and am proud of it. If McCain gets the nomination, I will not vote for him. I would rather have 4 years of a Democrat than 4 or possibly 8 years of a Republican who is clearly deranged beyond belief and who betrays conservatism every time he speaks.

sj doc said
"And before the RINO's stick it up our butts yet again, it behooves us conservatives to make it plain that we go into a McCain-led presidential campaign with little or no intention of contributing - either financially *OR* in all the "grassroots" efforts that went into making elections such as those in 1980, 1984, and 1994 such shattering successes for the Republican Party."


1). Contribute no money to the party

2). Vote against McCain in November

3). Contribute no money to left wingers and pro-McCain candidates.

4). Contribute money to real Republicans running for office. They will need the money desperately because both the Democrats and the Republican establishment will be out to defeat them.

Sorry
I meant Coulter.

Colter Picks Hillary over McCain
Here's a clip of Ann Colter explaining why she'll vote for Hillary instead of McCain.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuTqgqhxVMc

Gambler 5112
I missed that particular story about McCain. But it doesn't suprise me. The interesting thing is where are all the stories about the good things he has done. There aren't any. Except this tired one---he was a war hero about 50 years ago. Since then it's all been down hill.

MSM Straight Talk
McCain is allowed to get away with this "Straight Talk" moniker because to the MSM, Straight Talk means criticizing your own party. If a dem does the same, he is labeled as nearly a traitor by the MSM. See the recent ex-Senator from Georgia, Zell Miller, as the proof. Very similar actions, completely different labeling by the MSM.

...but there is no liberal bias in the media.......

Sowell Straight Talk
McCain traitor talk.

Finally one of these columnists not sucking up to McCain.

He will sell us down the river at any and every chance. Cannot be trusted, AT ALL!

When we needed him he was never there. Case closed. Let the gang of 14 have him.

We may not have a clear choice(even though I support Romney) this time around as far as someone so good it's a no-brainer, but one thing is clear It can't be McCain. He is so far from the Conservative voice. And that IS a no-brainer.

goldilocks
And let's not forget that infamous meeting McCain had with the union workers. When told by one of the workers that Americans would do "the jobs Americans won't do" if they pay a market wage instead of the slave wages paid to illegal aliens. McCain's response: You and other Americans don't have what it takes to do those jobs even if they pay you $50 an hour".

bot_feeder
That's what I was saying---we know what the devil Hillary will do, McCain is an unknown, too unpredictable. Sorry I didn't make that clear.

The Fat Lady Ain't Singin' Just Yet
I am amazed at how many are ready to hand the mantle over to McCain with a mere 90 delegates out of the required 1191 needed to win. Yes, he's ahead, but Huckabee will do well in the South, and Romney will likely do well in the North East (and I'm going out and a limb and guess Utah). So, it ain't a cakewalk just yet.

McCain won 30 percent of conservatives and 30 percent of evangelicals in Florida, the rest were independents and moderates. Articles like this one will hopefully make the uninformed aware of McCain's treachery an lack of fitness for the office. Hopefully talk radio and other conservative media will see Florida as a shot across the bow and go into overdrive against McCain as it they did with the immigration issue.

So?
Send money to Romney instead of doing nothing but "talking" on this website.

Gambler 5112
He also sat there smirking at everything Romney said. He has turned down two opportunities to debate with Romney this Sunday. He's terrified of too much exposure before Super Tues. He doesn't understand economics, he couldn't even discuss the so-called stimulus pkg. during the debate,if Romney tried he could expose him as the fool he is.

McCain is such a sactimonious jerk all he talks about is how he's the only one in the whole country who knew the surge would work. He was in Congress, why didn't he initiate this years ago? He's so pious, according to him the reason he does everything is because it's the "right thing to do" he, and only he, knows what is right for us simpletons (sounds like a liberal). He is a pressure cooker waiting to explode. I was hoping someone would goad him into one of his infamous temper tantrums. What a class-act president he will make. You're right 'arrogant ahole' pretty much sums it up.

Ron
I just couldn't stand it anymore.

Romney or McCain?
Snake oil salesman or liberal Republican? I think I'll take my chances with the former.

Sowing and Reaping
While I don't disagree with Mr. Sowell, I can't help but think how Gov. Romney is reaping what he sowed. He did the same thing to Mike Huckabee and Sen. McCain in Iowa and New Hampshire with several million dollars to emphasize his distortions of their records or positions. Gov. Romney would do well to acknowledge that he used his money advantage to begin the mud-slinging that has now pretty much destroyed his chances of becoming the nominee. That's a dirty shame.

Petrovian
Never forget that five years ago, the basic premises of Conservatism as outlined by Vic gave all the power to the GOP. Only when the GOP became enamored with power, and walked away from its principles, did it lose power. Today, you're trying to encourage people to continue walking down that slippery slope - which takes conservatives, and indeed all Americans, even further from the principles that quite clearly appealed to the public.

McCain is supported by independents and the liberal wing of the GOP, who have given him much of his early support. His track record demonstrates that he will work closely with the Democrats, who will control the Senate on many issues. Indeed, even when the GOP controlled the Senate, he had no problems working with the Democrats. In the general, we will most certainly craft his appeal to the independents, the moderate democrats, and to those who can't stand Hillary if she is nominated. Under the circumstnces, if he's elected, do you seriously think that he'll have any interest in the conservatives? Try justices. He'll be a moderate to liberal elected by moderates and liberals. Do you seriously think that he won't first talk to the Democratic leadership in the Senate who will control the nomination process, before he nominates anyone? They are, after all, his friends. And given that the abortion litmus test is not the position of the moderates who elected him, or the Democrats, how can you delude yourself into believing that he will nominate justices to appeal to religious conservatives - who he's demonstrated no love for? In the process, you'll lose what is left of conservatives if you get it. Certainly, you've lost the fiscal conservatives. And McCain will be the end of the social conservatives, as well as those that want immigration laws enforced and the border controlled as well. And, since McCain is in the GOP, the GOP will be responsible So what will be left? Think about it.


Amen
Thomas Sowell is the only one of the two driving a "Straight Talk Express".

If McCain gets nomination
If McCain gets the nomination, what conservatives need to do is to vote for Hillary and make sure we take back the Congress. That way, McCain will not inflict any harm and the GOP controlled Congress will keep Hillary in check. I see no problem taking back Congress because the only reason the Dems took over Congress in the mid terms was the Repub voters wanting to teach the RINOs a lesson.

when I say 2012

Of course, when I say ROMNEY/JINDAL 2012, I am assuming the United States still exists by 2012.

If McCain is elected, it is quite possible there will no longer be a United States by 2012.

goldilocks


It's not just "the devil we know" that is why we need to defeat McCain in November.


McCain can push his Democratic agenda in Congress with the support of all the Democrats and some Republicans.

Hillary will push the Demicratic agenda with only the support of Democrats.


That means that with McCain, the Democratic agenda will be signed into law. With Hillary, only some of it will, in fact, it is quite possible very little will.


So if you oppose the agenda of the Democrats, you will vote for Hillary in November.

What is Ironic here .
HISTORY has well taught us .....When your life long known Enemy smiled to your face to get in your front door he always stabs you in your back .
That is exactly what these Liberals on the boards and Media lefties are doing right now :
with their History of "take no Prisoners are doing right now with
Mc Nut !
He is old dead meat for the Vouchers even a moron must suspect bye now !

put a fork in it


2008 election is over and the enemy has won.


Time to start thinking about 2012.



ROMNEY/JINDAL 2012

phileo - Ron Paul is not "nutburger"
Before you so mindlessly resort to the standard wannabe-clever establishment ad hominem regarding Ron Paul, name just one factual untruth contained in Aaron Russo's (R.I.P.) courageous documentary, "America: Freedom To Fascism," which can be viewed at http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-16568803038673901 73

goldilocks
Did you see that eye rolling act by McCain when Ron Paul was speaking in the GOP debate? While he was rolling his eyes, he kept looking over to Romney to try to get Romney to nod. What an arrogant ahole!!

let's have some real straight talk.
Geo Washington was a WAR HERO elected to the Presidency; Andrew Jackson was a WAR HERO elected to the Presidency; U Grant was a WAR HERO (albeit not to all of the nation) elected to the Presidency; Ike Eisenhower was a WAR HERO elected to the Presidency (and the last President to DEFEND the international border sovereignty of this nation by deporting illegals enmasse).
John McCain served his nation when it was at war, and he deserves commendation for this just as all the other service personnel of the 'Nam engagement, but being raised to the level of the past WAR HEROs elected to the Presidency, McCain does not deserve.

Vote for Romney!
Why does everyone seem to assume that McCain will win the nomination? It ain't over yet. I will vote for Romney on Super Tuesday.

I watched the Dims debate last night (for as long as I could stand the lovefest) and Hillary seems much more experienced and knowledgable than Obama. He comes across as a green kid who has not been around the political block.

I believe Hillary will win the nomination. If it comes down to Hillary v. McCain---Hillary at least has a known, predictable social agenda. McCain is highly unpredictable. He was still angry with Bush for beating him in 2000, that's why he went against him so often. I have this ominous feeling that he will do something to "get even" with the American people for thwarting his comprehensive immigration plan. I cannot forget the smirk on his face when (before
he starting lying about his position on immigration) he defending his amnesty plan, by speaking Spanish and mouthing a kiss.

If McCain prevails in the nomination I will not vote for him. Better the devil we know. Let Hillary win.

phileo
You are correct about the Dems self-destructing. With the anger toward Bush and the Republicans, it should be a cakewalk for the Dems to regain the White Hosue. Instead, they choose to go way left and distant themselves from the independents. Sounds like McGovern during the Vietnam War all over again. In 1992, Bill Clinton ran as a "new Democrat", meaning more toward the middle, and he won and then later beat Bob Dole in 96. The historical lesson here is far left Dems never win, and center Repubs never win.

Anyway,
It looks like McCain could have it sewn up because he's willing to sacrifice the conservative base for the immigrant vote which he's been courting for a long time. The young ranks in the military will go along with what the old brass tell them, and old folks will stick with him because they're afraid of what they don't know or even try to learn. Of course, that's generally speaking, but that's how the demographics are playing out.

Anthony Thomas wants Vic to ...
Keep up the good work....and I agree :)

Keep up the good work Vic!

FrmrSSGT
Yes, I do. I say, let the GOP fragment. The RINOs can GTF out of here and we'll rebuild the Conservative Party led by REAL Conservatives like Jindal, Tancredo, Hunter, Steele, and a host of others.

Back to the Edmund Burke basics all, it worked for Jindal in Demville, Louisiana!

Liberal D.
"The President should not just put forth policy ideas that are in line with those promoted by his own party, rather he should toss out plans that appeal to both sides of the political fence."

Compromise = corruption of principal. My vote goes to the person I think will be best for the country as a whole. Philosophy leads to practical application and results. McCain's actions (and other RINOs like him) during his 25 years in the senate brought the Republican party to where it is now. And, like Bush, he cannot run a serious or effective war on terror without stopping illegal immigration. Vic does a great job defining conservatism, but Liberal D is obviously the monkey who just doesn't want to hear it.

Wow! And right on!
Too bad the Democrat Party has no alternative to offer. They could garner a lot of Republican defectors if they weren't such a lame excuse for a political party.

The Democrats have moved so far left, the John McCain Party is now moving to fill a big void in the center and center-left. I hope real Americans will wake up and fill the void both Parties have created on the right (I think that's what Ron Paul is trying to exploit, but he's certifiable nutburger). Maybe within a couple of years the Republican Party can again be a home for conservatism.

McCain's Lifetime 83% ConservativeRating
http://www.acuratings.org/

First of all, I am posting this in various places. If it's been mentioned earlier today, or you have seen this post more than once, I apologize, but the word needs to spread. If you look in 2006, McCain's conservative rating was a paltry 65, a rather pathetic showing amongst his fellow AZ Republicans. Downright shameful compared to TX and OK Senators, and Martinez in FL. I encourage to look at the ratings of other legislators of note. McCain's 2006 only really looks good against the likes of Snowe and Specter.


McCain not getting love from the ladies
GOP Womens' Focus Group

Video:
Eleven residents of Los Angeles County, came together in a nondescript Beverly Hills conference room to watch the debate, evaluate the candidates and talk some serious politics.
http://link.brightcove.com/services/link/bcpid1155201977/bc tid1399221378

McCain Allies
The New York Times endorsed McCain and Hillary. If that doesn't say it all? The Times either sees McCain as liberal enough to be worthy of their endorsement or they see another Bob Dole.

McCain not getting love from the ladies
GOP Womens' Focus Group

Video:
Eleven residents of Los Angeles County, came together in a nondescript Beverly Hills conference room to watch the debate, evaluate the candidates and talk some serious politics.
http://link.brightcove.com/services/link/bcpid1155201977/bc tid1399221378

No business
John McCain has no business in the Republican party, and that's all there is to it. McCain is part of the Republican crowd that wants to surrender the debate on climate change and appease environmental extremists. Environmentalism is already costing every American via higher energy costs, reduced freedom, and higher costs to do business in general. Among domestic issues, it is second only to illegal immigration, and we all know McCain's inclination on that issue as well.

HAVE WE FORGOTTEN AMNESTY?

.....This morning on FAUX I watched the unctuous Geraldo Rivera do a disgusting lap dance for McCain ...I know Rivera is a Hillary/Obama man so his slobbering over McCain must mean that he sees a McCain nomination as a win-win since McCain is an open borders guy and Rivera is pro-illegal immigration and amnesty ...

.....When the McCain/Kennedy Amnesty Bill was about to pass indignant voters rose up and stopped it ...now these same voters are on the cusp of nominating the same man who would guarantee Amnesty and doesn't even deny it ...

.....I know the public has a short attention span but this is insanity .....COLOSSUS

A lesson
The Republican Party needs a lesson. The Democratic Party knows it can always depend on its party slaves to vote democrat no matter who they run. I refuse to be a whore to any political party. I will not vote republican for the sake of voting republican. I see no difference between the Republican Party and the Democratic Party. They have lost my vote and if they want it back they need to change their ways. We don't really need two democratic parties and as far as I can tell that is what we have. If enough of us refuse to vote Republican we can send the message, "Don't send us trash and expect us to vote for it because we won't."

Vic
“What a blessing it would be to watch you commit suicide. So why aren't you out in the street with a can of gasoline and a match?”


"Just think, we wouldn't have to hear your racist dialog aboyt Sowell or Williams any"


Lmao. It’s because of that kind of hostility, hate and bigotry that the Republican party is becoming increasingly irrelevant. Is this the compassionate conservatism Bush talks about? You obviously represent one of the fringe nuts of the party, that 25 percent that still think Bush is a patriot and that that there are WMD’s in Iraq. Very pathetic.

Who’s the racial racketeer now? I didn’t mention anything about race, haven’t for a while, so I don’t know why you’re talking about race. It’s people like you who are destroying your own party with your hate and bigotry. Keep up the good work VIC.


The RINO leadership...
--
...of the GOP (like the "Rockefeller Republicans" posting here on Townhall.com) look forward to the nomination of *THEIR* candidate - John McCain III - thinking that no matter how goddamnable a candidate he is, the Democrat Party's nomination of either Hillary or Obama will force the conservative base to hold it's collective gorge and vote for Arizona's "I'm no Goldwater" senior Senator anyway.

After all, us conservatives are the equivalent of the Democrat's Black constituency.

We can be treated with complete contempt because we hate the opposition more than we do the RINO scumbuckets who control the GOP.

What the "Rockefeller Republicans" miss, however, is that the one thing John McCain *CAN'T* do is to inspire the conservative base to get out there and support him through the campaign.

We've got all the enthusiasm for John McCain that the average middle-aged man has for his annual prostate exam.

And before the RINO's stick it up our butts yet again, it behooves us conservatives to make it plain that we go into a McCain-led presidential campaign with little or no intention of contributing - either financially *OR* in all the "grassroots" efforts that went into making elections such as those in 1980, 1984, and 1994 such shattering successes for the Republican Party.

We don't hate Hillary enough to be enthusiastic about the guy who co-authored McCain-Feingold in an effort to *PREVENT* repetition of what we had accomplished in the Congressional elections of 1994.

Hell, there are even Townhallers here who are saying that they like *OBAMA* more than McCain, and might vote for Mocha Marvin instead of McShamnesty if that's how the ballots come out.

And Obama is objectively *WORSE* on policy even than Bubba's Ball-and-Chain.

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Thank you, Thomas Sowell!!
I've have admired Mr. Sowell for years. Talk about the real straight talk express.

I'm praying for a miracle on Tuesday because I positively cannot, will not, vote for John McCain. Heaven help us.

Tide may turn
The primaries are not quite over yet. Florida was not a good gauge because the state is made up mostly of old, liberal retirees from the northeast and Hispanics. Hopefully, the voters of the other states have clearer eyes. We need to more TV ads like the one I saw last night with Hillary's face superimposed over McCain's, making the two indistinguishable.

PatH
In the Florida debates, McCain did engage in some straight talk. He made two things abundantly clear:

1. He has no qualms about engaging us in another hundred years of foreign wars and no comprehension that it would bankrupt us in five years.
2. He wants every American citizen to submit to biometric national identification without which we would become "non-people". The man is straight out of George Orwell's darkest imagination.