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Friday, February 20, 2009
Linda Chavez :: Townhall.com Columnist
A Nation of Cowards
by Linda Chavez
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We're a nation of cowards -- or at least the attorney general of the United States thinks we are. In a speech at the Justice Department celebrating Black History Month, Attorney General Eric Holder said: "Though this nation has proudly thought of itself as an ethnic melting pot, in things racial we have always been and continue to be, in too many ways, essentially a nation of cowards." It seems a rather peculiar statement coming from the first black attorney general, moreover, one appointed by the first black man elected president.

Holder's complaint is that, "We, as average Americans, simply do not talk enough with each other about race." But is that really what the country needs: an extended conversation on race? Bill Clinton proposed a similar idea back when he was in office. He called it a National Conversation on Race and hosted several town hall events around the country with lots of media hype. There was much finger-pointing -- at whites, of course -- and little serious analysis of the real challenges the black community faces.

The problem is not that we talk too little about race but that our discussion is often irrelevant to the problems at hand. When Holder and Clinton talk about confronting racial issues, what they really want is a national therapy session in which whites admit that their prejudice and discrimination -- past and present -- is responsible for all the ills that beset blacks today.

Well, sorry, it just isn't so. And if we're going to have an honest discussion about race, let's begin by defining the problem.

There are still large differences between whites and blacks in this society on everything from education to earnings to crime rates. But does racial discrimination explain why black high school graduates, on average, read four grade levels lower than whites? Is employment discrimination wholly to blame for the differences in average earnings between whites and blacks?

Is racism responsible for the fact that blacks are more likely than whites to be the victims of violent crimes? Then how do you explain that in 2005, according to Holder's own Department of Justice, black males between the ages of 14-24 represented only 1 percent of the population but committed almost 28 percent of homicides, and their victims were overwhelmingly other blacks?

How about out-of-wedlock birth rates? Does racial discrimination explain why 70 percent of black children are born to single women, compared with 25 percent of white children?

In fact, many of these problems are interrelated -- and they have virtually nothing to do with discrimination or racism.

Sure, many inner-city black children attend lousy schools that do a poor job of teaching them to read and write. But those school districts are often run by black superintendents in cities governed by black elected officials, not some modern-day incarnation of the Ku Klux Klan. Nor is money the explanation. Boston, Chicago, and St. Louis, for example, spend more to educate their largely black and Latino students than the surrounding suburbs do on their largely white student populations.

And poor educational performance turns into lower wages for black workers. Only 17 percent of blacks hold a college degree compared with a third of whites. Is it any wonder then that blacks earn, on average, only about 80 percent of what whites earn?

If Attorney General Holder is really interested in improving the status of blacks, he could begin by addressing the issue of personal responsibility. The decision to have a child out of wedlock has enormous consequences for single moms and the children they bring into the world. If there is one factor above others that explains the huge differences between the well-being of whites and blacks in this society, it is that so many black children grow up in homes with no fathers. Those children do more poorly in school, are more likely to get in trouble with the law, and become single parents themselves, thus perpetuating a destructive cycle of despair.

So, by all means, let's have some honesty in our discussions of race during Black History Month. Let's begin by having our most prominent black elected and appointed officials show a little courage by speaking out on the real problems in the black community, not the chimera of white oppression and unacknowledged guilt.

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Linda Chavez is chairman of the Center for Equal Opportunity and author of Betrayal: How Union Bosses Shake Down Their Members and Corrupt American Politics .

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Good Article
I've been saying the same things Linda has to say here for many years about "my people." It seems to me that blacks are so hung up on race, they want to separate things from whites (hence BET, historically black colleges, support of black businesses, etc), that they don't realize how isolated and racist they actually are. I have been rejected by other blacks because of my conservative views and told that I am "black on the outside, but white on the inside." What the heck does that mean?! Apparently you can put a color distinction on anything.

I absolutely have to agree that most of the issues being discussed regarding problems in the black community are of personal responsibility. Blacks are hoping that the Chosen One will fix their problems and "give more help to those who need it." While I am thankful for programs that help those in need, people should feel obligated to do for themselves and their own at some point. Relying on Big Government to fix social problems worsens and perpetuates them.

I honestly have to say that reading this article made me feel like there are still people with brains in this country. I commend you, Ms. Chavez for saying it like it is.

Cowards?
Linda - thank you, thank you, thank you. As a conservative, bi-racial mid-30's, professional mother of 3, I am so thankful for people like you telling it like it is. On the other hand, I am so sad that African-Americans have allowed it to get to this point. With 99% of the issues being discussed today, PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY could take care all of it... but WE are either unwilling to face up to our personal responsibilities, blinded by The Annointed One, or simply uneducated about the true meaning of the issues at hand (once again, unwilling to make the effort to to become educated about the topics.. and THEN make a decision).
Columns like yours are the only reason I am keeping my sanity up here in New England these days. I maintain hope that it is not too late for this great nation to turn itself around..and realize how much is at risk if we continue going in the direction BHO is pointing us. Please keep up the HONEST analysis.

A New Racism
Linda Chavez is pretty much on target. The issue of race will always be present in America, not so much of white America, but because of liberals who are in need of a cause to promote their own selves.

True, there are white racist who are your stereotype racist but they by far are in the minority of whites. These types sadly will never go away, but what is sadder is many liberals use them as a means to exploit racisms for the purpose of having the government do what many blacks can do for themselves but have been brain washed by the liberals that as a black they are hopelessly sentenced to a life of poverty unless the liberal provides life time help for them.

Yes, a helping hand is a blessing when one finds themselves in such dire situations they are without much hope, but one needs to be responsible for their choices and be willing to endure the consequences of their choices.

However we have become a nation of enablers to those in poverty and thus only suppress the impoverished into a deeper state of poverty

I personally think teaching one that they are incapable of lifting themselves out of poverty, and that the only ray of hope is for them to depend upon the government and no focus on responsibility is the new racism that challenges black America

response to John
First, Obama did really say "typical white person" -- that statement is itself racist. Secondly, his lecture to the American people after the Wright stuff came out was racist as well. Anyone regularly attending a church where rampant bigotry exists is a racist. Wright blames all whites -- even in his terms "garlic nosed Italians." Few Italians lived in America prior to the Civil War -- those that did lived in major northern cities (and likely either were Opera singers or diplomats). Personally, I have heard black people blame "you people" (whites) for historical wrongs. I have no more connection to slavery/Jim Crow in America than I have to Stalin's behavior in the Ukraine, German death camps or the Turks killing of Armenians. In fact, most whites have no such connection since many ethic groups came to America after the Civil War and they settled in the North.

Facts really don't matter though -- otherwise Obama would have to apologize for his white slaveholding heritage (and he should also apologize for the collective blame of "all whites" that is being pushed by the media and educators in our socieity.

The consequence to the "collective guilt" of whites is that blacks commit crimes against whites. Also, you end up with outrages like what happened on the Duke campus. The Duke administration supported a lynching of the white students (because of what they looked like). Many professors spoke about these innocent students as being like farm animals. Also, they welcomed the new black panther party to protest on campus and allowed other radical students to carry signs saying "castrate." Could you imagine if the situation were reversed? Of course, you can't because it would not happen.

the double standard
Bagaman shared an anecdote about an African-/American at the Univ. of Michigan... there are similar Black Studies lounges and the like elsewhere. My experience was that if a white were to enter, s/he would be shunned at best.

Indeed, it cannot work both ways. The blacks are so quick to blast whites-only clubs, but then grouse if whites come to their places. they want to have a Miss Black America, then whine if a black does not win Miss America. The latter ruined its credibility by willfully naming too many blacks as winners in PC forced fashion.

Lincoln was wiser about such things than he gets credit for... he predicted such frictions all those years ago. I have some thoughts on the natural order of things in my post here:


oracle1
Location: GA
Reply # 18
Date: Feb 21, 2009 - 7:47 AM EST

Walk the walk, folks...
At the South Quad dorm at the University of Michigan, there was an "African-American lounge" (school supported and yes it was called that) where presence of caucasians, though not prohibited, was really not tolerated by AA residents. Mr. Holder speaks about our races not getting together socially - things like private lounges for African Americans don't help. You can't have it both ways...

demosthenes...
You fell RIGHT into the very trap that makes discussion possible.
You attacked a SINGLE sentence I said, and without using the context in which it was said, rolled RIGHT on and complained about issues that aren't even BLACK related, but have more to do with the responsible carrying the irresponsible.
Which includes ME too.

And throwing in the convenient AA statement guarantees inflaming the discussion, but not the basis for it in the first place and it's unfortunate backlash.

Without even so much as acknowledging exactly what needs to be for a civil and honest dialogue, so we could MOVE ON.

You went RIGHT into attack and complaint mode, claiming victimhood status from racist blacks.

And even though I said this isn't about guilt, nor apology, you claim MORE experience FROM racism, than you feel I have a right to.

I suppose you don't see any irony in that at all, right?

Who are the Cowards??
Really enjoying all of your posts (with the exception of the few idiots like John). I'd like to recommend one organization that gets it right: Black American Political Action Committee or BAMPAC. It's for people who think, and act responsibly, not blindly following the crowd. Check it out!

Racism
I work with a number of black people and we get along fine. All it takes is some mutual respect and kindness.

I won't pretend there haven't been problems in the past and that some still exist. But things are a lot better in race relations than they used to be. It may be that short of brainwashing the entire US population we will always have some problems. But education and good relations on an individual basis will go a long way.

Folks no one to my knowledge has invented a working time machine to go back and change the past. All we can do is go on from the present and do our best to better our relations.

reply to : Roy
You are correct... Lincoln did believe that it would be best to colonize the blacks back to Africa, and some were to Liberia. When he discussed the idea with Fredrick Douglas, who was half white, he became indignant.

http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v13/v13n5p-4_Morgan.html

excerpt:
"While it is true that Lincoln regarded slavery as an evil and harmful institution, it also true, as this paper will show, that he shared the conviction of most Americans of his time, and of many prominent statesmen before and after him, that blacks could not be assimilated into white society. He rejected the notion of social equality of the races, and held to the view that blacks should be resettled abroad. As President, he supported projects to remove blacks from the United States."


You missed the point
Linda ... this is not what our Attorney General had in mind AT ALL. Let's try it again ...

All the problems of black people are because of white people.

We are sorry, sorry, sorry that we enslaved you, and it was all our fault. American slave owners were the most despicable people in the history of the world ... certainly far more despicable than the Africans who enslaved other Africans and sold them to the Europeans.

Now, kiss Mr. Holder's A@# and tell him how smart he his to be such a big man despite all his privations.

Take it from hear, Linda. You get the idea.

Re Lincoln's Views on Blacks
I'm not an expert on anything, much less Mr Lincoln and I'm sure some of the volumes
written about him are less than 100% accurate. But I think it IS a truism that one of Lincoln's proposals, in conjunction with the Eman. Proc. was the Transfer (Deportation if u will) of *the Freed Negroes* to Liberia, South/Central America, etc.. However, the project was not *Cost Effective, or even Feasible* As I say, I may not be Correct..

Stearman,
Don't forget to include Thomas Sowell and Walter Williams in your discussion panel. :)


Psychological evaluation
Why is it when liberals see a picture of a chimpanzee they automatically think of Barack Obama?

John...Feb 20 8:51
You obviously don't understand the difference between "Blacks" and "N!ggers".

The overwhelming vast majority of White Conservatives, genuinely don't give a damn if the color of a man's skin is Black.

Thomas Sowell for instance, has black skin. But to White Conservatives, Thomas Sowell is brilliant man. Not a brilliant "Black" man...but a brilliant "man" period. And if Thomas Sowell were to run for political office, White Conservatives would line-up to vote for him. And we would line-up to vote for "Thomas Sowell", we would not be voting for a "Black Man". See the difference?

Liberals on the other hand, like to trot-out "N!ggers" for political office.

N!ggers are vastly different than Black men. N!ggers have chips on their shoulders. N!ggers believed they are owed something. N!ggers believe that everything evolves around "race". N!ggers think that any wrong done by someone with Black skin, is supposed to be excused because of "past racism". N!ggers don't think they should be held responsible or accountable and any all their shortcomings are the result of "racism".

Black men, just like any other men, accept responsibility for their actions, their lot in life and are decent and respectable folks. They are one of us.

So don't trot-out a N!gger and then claim that Conservatives won't vote for him because he's "Black". We won't vote for him because he's a N!gger. See the difference?

Dr. Douglas
What if I were to present to you statistics from that FBI that say that white violence against blacks is 50% more than black violence against whites? What would you do? Most likely you would run to the media alarmed with such injustice. You would probably schedule sensitivity training for white people (more than they already receive), then you would start studies on why white people are so violent towards black people. You would help schedule sit ins and make demands to the media asking for change and justice? You would look for solutions...right?

But I transposed white for black. If you look at actual FBI statistics there is much more black violence against white people. And considering population differences the numbers are alarming. But that doesn't fit in with your thesis. What are you going to do now? You could ignore it and continue telling people with a lighter pigment in their skin that they are still the problem. When people stumble upon statistics like this, you could make excuses for their behavior and blame it right back on white people. Oh, that is what you have been doing. No justice no peace...right?

Holder is Correct
But not intentionally.
The measurable differences between black and white society are not (like so many other important issues) open to debate. Liberals are so certain of their ideological ground that the honest argument of ideas is quashed out of hand. "Fact" and "Truth", as Mr. Gore inadvertently lets out are merely "inconvenient".
For want of courage conservatives aquiesce in eschewing rational argument. They have come to fear, like their liberal adversaries, the consequences of giving offence to members of the ever-enlarging "Victim" Classes.
Mr. Holder, himself, enforces at every opportunity the rule of Political Correctness, which, rightly defined, is socially condoned cowardice.
Mr. Holder is correct.

In My City
Of Richmond VA ...... 84 % of All Murders are Black on Black Robberies , Raps and Murders . (Street gangs are everywhere as is their drug selling and murdering each other )
We have
11 % Hispanic Murder and Crimes ... the rest are all other (9 ) Races put together including Whites . We have a large Asian population here from 6 countries as well but they fit right in as do Packies and Indians from India .
We now have a 6 Th. Generation of Blacks on Welfare in the same Fatherless Families and same area's and streets of town ..... nothing changes .
39.9 % of Blacks here don't Grad High School here .
Of those 81 % don't Grad the 10 Th. grade meaning they can not read , write properly or do basic Math , much less fill out and Employment form correctly .( 98 % voted obama )
Insuring they will spend their entire lives in and out of Prison ,Murdered and on Welfare while making babies we tax payers have to pay for sadly .
THEY ARE THE COWARDS !

Holder is RIGHT?
Holder stated that not much has changed in America over the last 50 years and he is RIGHT.

Blacks still don't want to learn, blacks still don't want to obey the law, blacks still don't want to work, blacks still demand government handouts and the crutch of affirmative action, and blacks still use the race card as an excuse to commit crimes.

After 50 years white Americans still fund the cost of the "Great Society" black welfare state.

For your info HOLDER most Americans never owned slaves and the "white guilt" noose blacks and the liberal media put around our necks is BS. I wasn't guilty yesterday, I am not guilty today, and I sure won't feel any guilt tomorrow. Blacks like you need to grow up and quit making excuses for your failures.

Linda is a race hustler
As Darren aptly notes in his 5:52 post, Linda Chavez focuses on race as it suits her purposes-- and she is a RINO, NWO, open border, "cheap labor" advocate! She is so prone to talk about social ills among blacks, but blow off the comparable pandemic ills (crimes, drugs, illegitimacies, dropouts, gangs, cultural balkanization, school and social service enervation/decimation) among Hispanics-- the ONLY measurable immigrant group which still continues to trail the native born after 3 generations in every signal demographic measure of achievement and aptitude.

It is noteworthy that her heritage is from Spain, not Latin American/Chicano... her affinity for poor Hispanics is likely more socio-economic-- she sits on the board of a janitorial services company that likes to hire/milk ILLEGAL aliens.

the brown paper bag test
I meant to add that author Thomas Wolfe coined the metaphor "the brown paper bag test," which refers to how blacks themselves choose lighter skin blacks to be their leaders and preachers... look at Eric Holder hisself, or Revrund Wright... and they will go gah gah over a guy like Tiger who is fully 50% oriental and 25% American Indian, and less than 25% "African American"-- it is a stretch to call him a man of color really.

Yet when someone points out the statistical pandemic social pathologies among blacks, the excuses of disadvantage and poverty are immediately propounded. Revrund Jessuh Jackson once said--> i must admit that even I, when walking down the street at night and hearing footsteps behind me, am relieved to look back and see a white face.

john at 7:52
I'm glad you used the words "dominant culture", because the truth is that it is that culture that created the Constitution, and did so in large part to preserve that culture, so regardless of skin color, yes, there is no room for those who do not embrace the philosophical,cultural underpinnnings of this country.

Lincoln was perceptive
re:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
"Here's What the Brilliant Lincoln Thought
He thought that White and Black people could never live in harmony; one reason he considered and tried resettlement in a foreign land for freed Blacks.

So far he's proved correct."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

An inconvenient truth-- Lincoln flat out said that he did not perceive the black man as the intellectual or even moral equal of the white man... to oppose slavery was NOT also to believe in Kumbaya for race relations.

It sounds PC not to judge people by the color of their skin (blah, blah, blah), but the REALITY if that we are programmed by evolution, just like all OTHER ANIMALS, to form much of our opinions about others by observations.

Taller, brighter, more attractive, non-obese people have IMMENSE natural advantages in life. Would Brad and Angelina matter PERIOD if they were less attractive? Ever notice that Japanese execs look more "western"/anglo, as does Miss Korea? There are material differences among us; even the blacks call it "white man's disease" when someone cannot jump like a rabbit. Why do black men (especially those with $) ineluctably try to pair bond with lighter women (even Asians) if they can?



Anti-Christ
Obama is the ANTI-CHRIST! How is this being overlooked? All the signs are there and the time is right for his appearance. Get right & get ready.

Chavez on race
Linda Chavez wrote this: "a fair number of Republican members of Congress, almost all influential conservative talk radio hosts, some cable news anchors -- most prominently, Lou Dobbs -- and a handful of public policy 'experts' at organizations such as the Center for Immigration Studies, the Federation for American Immigration Reform, NumbersUSA, in addition to fringe groups like the Minuteman Project ........just don't like Mexicans -- or anyone else from south of the border. They think Latinos are freeloaders and welfare cheats who are too lazy to learn English. They think Latinos have too many babies, and that Latino kids will dumb down our schools. They think Latinos are dirty, diseased, indolent and more prone to criminal behavior. They think Latinos are just too different from us ever to become real Americans".

She loves to play the race card if Hispanics are involved. It's her political bread and butter. She IS a RINO (Republican-In-Name-Only) and is NOT a conservative.


THE REAL TRUTH
I realize this might upset some people but someone has to be honest about why black Americans have failed to thrive. The truth is obvious but no one wants to admit it. Black Africans and their descendants are mentally inferior when compared to any other race on the planet. There I said it. I would also point out that they are physically superior to any other race. The evidence is all over the world (especially in Africa) and right in front of your face. Until this fact is acknowledged there will be no progress in "race relations". Whites expect blacks to do things they are not capable of and blacks resent whites for expecting it.

?
Leonard
Location: FL
Reply # 15
Date: Feb 20, 2009 - 8:15 PM EST Nation of Cowards
Eric Holder isn't even "black." He is a quadroon, at most. His IQ comes from his white donor genes.
______________________________________________

See Leonard...there you go...

Insulting white people again.

Scott in CA
I really enjoyed reading your recent post. You are absolutely right!

This nation actually could use a discussion on race. However, it needs to be about why more blacks are not looking in the mirror and realizing their actions (and inactions) are the major part of the problem with not achieving closer parity with whites in educational backgrounds and income. Blacks ridiculing another black person for "acting white", simply because that black person is studying hard and getting good grades is absolutely ridiculous! Not only is it racist against whites but it is also the equivelant of black people saying that blacks have to be remain dumb and get lousy grades in order to truly be considered black. When you consider that a good education is the best way for a person to advance in income, it is easy to see the problem.

I would heartily recommend the nation's discussion on race be chaired by Larry Elder and Armstrong Williams. Absent would be Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, both of whom have contributed greatly toward keeping blacks down by not insisting that blacks take responsibility for their own actions. Instead, JJ and AS should emphasize how important it is to study hard, get good grades, and work hard to get ahead. Additional emphasis should be placed by them on telling blacks that they are not victims and that if they fail, it is because of them and no one else.

What color is Racism?
For 45 years, I have worked with 'high risk' kids. The majority of them had the same skin color as Mr. Holder, but I didn't see it. My job was to introduce them to reading and math and teach them that they truly CAN do anything they want.
Until I heard Mr. Wright (Reverend doesn't fit him), I had no idea that when they left my company, they went home to be schooled on how horrible white people are. I was shocked and truly hurt.
As I've done for many years, I took presents and food to 'my kids'' homes for Christmas - at my own expense. For the first time, I was not invited inside any of the homes. The parents emptied the food out of my car and asked me to leave, as they didn't want their neighbors to see a white woman in their neighborhood.
Will I do that again next year? No. I didn't deserve that, but a 'thank you' would have been nice.
During the past two years, I have been verbally slapped every few days for being white. My grandparents came from Germany, didn't own slaves, and fought with Dr. King.
A small percentage of white people are KKK. A small percentage of black people are Crips and Bloods. So what do the rest of us do about that? Continue the hatred - or move forward...together? Frankly, I'm beginning to believe that a few of both races quite enjoy a good fight.
As for the Republicans being the 'racists'? How about John McCain...oh, I forgot. His adopted daughter has the same skin color as Mr. Holder.
I don't care what race or religion you are...I will never refuse to help you if you ask. But, I feel much less comfortable now due to President Obama and Mr. Holder and all the 'Reverends'. It's very sad.

cont...
Even more infurating, and evil to a certain degree is that I believe most liberals understand the real reasons as well, but knowingly lie and pretend to keep their power and influence. So in essence the conservatives are too scared, but understandably so, to talk about the real reasons while the liberals knowingly lie to amass power. For these reasons, it's laughable to suggest liberals aren't far more destructive for blacks in America.

unspoken truth
seawolf wrote:
...don't denigrate your own as Tom's or sellouts...sellouts to what? The American way of doing things?....

That issue has always bothered me a great deal. The fact that it is quite commonplace and accepted to ridicule another black, who is acting a particular way, as "acting white". Think about that for a minute. Leave aside for the moment that they're, often times, ridiculing a behavior which would serve one well in life, but instead just think about how insulting and yes...racist...that is to whites! It's in no uncertain terms saying that there's something wrong with the way whites act. That's damn offensive yet you never hear anything about how insulting that statement really is. What's more like I mentioned previously their often times ridiculing behavior like studying, behaving in class, etc. Yet all over academia and politics people everywhere dumbfoundedly throw their hands in the air and wonder "why the hell aren't blacks achieving at a comparable level to whites?" With this being the case, I'm very pessimistic about us making much headway in closing the gap. Think about it...we're not permitted to discuss actual likely causes that explain much of the disparity so instead we make up a false reasons (racism...or my personal favorite...the undefinable "institutional racism")and then actually have the balls to make laws based on those false reasons! It's truly astonishing! We all secretly kind of suspect the real reasons, but in order to keep up the subterfuge we...

1. lie about the real causes and
2. actually have the audacity to make laws based on the lies!

cont...


Uncle Sam’s programs

The Jerry Springer Show and I realize it’s a little over the top.

That is why people are poor.

You wouldn’t hire any of them.

You would trust any of them.

You can’t get a straight answer out of any of them.

None of them take responsibility for what they do.

They all cheat on each other and then get mad when they get cheated on.

They all throw stones at each other and they’re all guilty of the same things.

None of them care about anything but themselves.

None of them can support themselves let alone the people their breeding with.

They all have false self esteem problems.

They would all sell each other rat poison for a buck.

I could go on.

Skin color is the least of these people’s problems.

I guess the biggest balloons on a big boned women wins all the arguments.

.............
Excellent article.

Obama's Black?
Could have fooled me. More like tan. Considering he was raised white and, in his own words, "learned to act black", he has very little in common with the black race, except he married a black woman. It's all an illusion.

What is Racism?
It's the belief that one race of people is inherently inferior to another race. Pointing out stupidy, laziness and feelings of entitlement to a "portion" of a race is not racism. There are millions of successful blacks in all walks of life. There is NO conversation to be held. Those successful in the black community know exactly what's wrong, but they are too scared to vocalize it. The conversation needs to be had between the successful blacks and the self-classified "victims." For most the rest of the country, there's nothing more to talk about. There are things one has to do for ones own self. That time has come. Embrace it. The white community has officially taken itself off the hook, since it would never happen otherwise. Thank you Obama!

Many black kids refuse to study because it's "acting white"...Maybe Mr. Holder would like to discuss that little problem.

Being called a racist is usually the first indication, you have won the argument.

To John
I hate to stoop to the level of a liberal, but John, you are a moron. To lump all of us together is the most blatant case of racial profiling I have seen. Wake up and see what hypocrites you are. And besides, look at the fiscal condition of red states. And to paraphase the movie "Field of Dreams" build it and they will come. Everybody loves a freebie.

Nation of Cowards
Eric Holder isn't even "black." He is a quadroon, at most. His IQ comes from his white donor genes.

equal treatment
If you were to work for the govt, most universities or big business and advocate equal treatment for all (no preferential treatment or quotas/goals) you would be fired -- and permanently labeled as a "racist." Obama is really amazing -- the guy believes there is such a thing as a "typical white person" yet he has very a-typical white heritage. That is, unlike most of us whites -- his white ancestors held black slaves. Still, he believes that because what I look like, my wife looks like, and my children look like -- we should receive second class treatment and we should be "lectured" about what "we" did. Again, this is even though my wife also has no slaveholding ancestry. So many groups suffered way more in history than blacks did in America -- just think about what happened during WWII, or in Stalin's Soviet Union, or the Ottoman Empire's treatment of Armenians. In my own case, my ancestors had no rights in Ireland because they were not members of the "official" church (which only about 2% of Irish belonged to). Thus, they had no rights at all. Unlike slaves who were at least fed -- many starved to death and at times the English sought to kill huge numbers of them. Yet, despite 800 years of poor treatment (and being shot with bullets rather than water during civil rights marches) we do not receive preferential treatment. It makes me sick anytime people (including whites) who claim that "my" people did something wrong. The result of the obvious racism in our society is that we have Duke U situations and we excuse the killing of whites because of skin color.

Racism
I choose to view people, not by the color of their skin, as individuals. When I say this to black people, as well as most liberal, their response?

"That proves you're a racist!"

Black people and liberals want people seen and view by what color they are. Without that blacks can not see themselves as victims and liberals lose one of their main reasons for living.

Another reason why I'm considered a racist is because I do not let black people say whatever they want. They seem to think that they are free to make racist comments about white people and there is nothing we can do about it. Well, I always challenge them and they are shocked.

A few years ago I was having a conversation with a black co-worker who was a friend of mine. This was about ten years ago and he was 28 at the time. During the conversation he made to comment that he, himself, had been brought to this country in a slave ship. I stopped him right there and said, "Maybe your ancestors were brought here in slave ships but you weren't" He gave me one of the most shocked and surprised expressions I have ever seen on anyone. He just stared at me as if he could not believe that I would contradict him. However he then shrugged his shoulder and then said, "That's right, we can't say that any more."

I have a co-worker right now who is a black stereotype. The stereotype is is acting like is the one that says black people are unreliable and are incapable of showing up for work on time. He doesn't do his job properly and is late everyday. Because he's black he gets away with it. If I were to suggest to him that he was feeding a stereotype, he'd call me a racist and if I complained to our HR department and referred to him as feeding a stereotype there is not doubt that I'd be fired.


Race
Holder has no complaint to gripe about.
He's attorney general;isn't he?
How about reverse discrimination;Mr. Holder.

Hate Crime-Reversed
Demo,

Bet you being a victim did not stay in the papers for weeks on end. What a double standard. My daughter was attacked, but of course it was an economic crime. That and the 10 prior incidents of white kids attacked by a mob. But not to fear. Only we can be racist. I guess I have to hate my black uncle, black brother-in-law,Jewish cousin, Hispanic aunt and cousins. Oh, can't forget my gay friends.

John in CA: Super powers?
“However it is clear that a large number of McCain voters voted against Obama solely because he's Black.....some of you are right here on TownHall. You know who you are.”

OK. I’m glad to see that a combination of BDS and your “progressive” empathy has enabled you to acquire the “Superpower” of being able to look deep in the “hearts of men.” Good for you- I'll bet that you can jump a tall Mocha Latte' in a single bound. After reviewing Mr. Obama’s infamous speech on race I can state that to his credit he managed to cite the existence of both white and hyphenated-American racial anger. However, apparently only hyphenated-American anger is legitimate & of course the solution is more black-entitlement programs & policies in perpetuity. Reality: Today’s Hyphenated-American’s are victims of the pathologies endemic to radical feminism & the welfare industrial complex (70% illegitimacy, 50% school drop out, 25% prison incarceration rate for males, etc) more often than they are victims of residual racism. But what do you expect from an articulate, multi-racial politician who apparently fell into the orbit of bigots (Reverend Wright & Michelle Obama) and subsequently went “native” under their respective influence?

Also, this is the same hypocrite who expected voters to value his empty “unity” platitudes but ignore the substance of Rev. Wright’s bigotry. This is the same hypocrite who called for the removal of both Don Imus and Ms. Ferraro after making racial remarks. Nothing happens in a vacuum & I understand the history of “black liberation theology.” However, all of the “Adults” will agree that there will never be a meaningful dialogue on race unless all parties are held to the same standard of speech & behavior.

But please continue to point out the error of our ways. And do try to get a girlfriend- your Obama man-crush is self-evident.

John in CA: Super powers?
“However it is clear that a large number of McCain voters voted against Obama solely because he's Black.....some of you are right here on TownHall. You know who you are.”

OK. I’m glad to see that a combination of BDS and your “progressive” empathy has enabled you to acquire the “Superpower” of being able to look deep in the “Hearts of men.” Good for you- I'll bet you jump tall Mocha Latte's in single bound. After reviewing Mr. Obama’s infamous speech on race I can state that to his credit he managed to cite the existence of both white and hyphenated-American racial anger. However, apparently only hyphenated-American anger is legitimate & of course the solution is more black-entitlement programs & policies in perpetuity. Reality: Today’s Hyphenated-American’s are victims of the pathologies endemic to radical feminism & the welfare industrial complex (70% illegitimacy, 50% school drop out, 25% prison incarceration rate for males, etc) more often than they are victims of residual racism. But what do you expect from an articulate, multi-racial politician who apparently fell into the orbit of bigots (Reverend Wright & Michelle Obama) and subsequently went “native” under their respective influence?

Also, this is the same hypocrite who expected voters to value his empty “unity” platitudes but ignore the substance of Rev. Wright’s bigotry. This is the same hypocrite who called for the removal of both Don Imus and Ms. Ferraro after making racial remarks. Nothing happens in a vacuum & I understand the history of “black liberation theology.” However, all of the “Adults” will agree that there will never be a meaningful dialogue on race unless all parties are held to the same standard of speech & behavior.

But please continue to point out the error of our ways. And do try to get a girlfriend- your Obama man-crush is self-evident.

du: Really?
“But perhaps the question is: does the dominant culture appreciate what THEIR skin privilege has done for them and continues to?”

Really? What "skin privilege" is that? In the book, “Ten Things you can’t say in America”, Larry Elders points out the most racist people in America happen to be black. Ever been on the receiving end of a HATE crime? I have. But I’m white-so it couldn’t have been a HATE crime. Never mind that 90% of all interracial violent crimes are committed by blacks on whites. But I forgot, according to leftist punditry, those were ECONOMIC crimes. Not to mention that I’ve had to deal w/ institution racism on a daily basis: (a) affirmative action & (b) progressive income tax system that unfairly targets successful white males like me (e.g., the top 50% of all wage earners (majority=white men) pay 96% of all income taxes) IOT pay for the entitlements that go to people who think like you.

But thank you, I have seen the error of my ways.

Has your skin-based "inferiority complex" served you well?

Christiancons: Really?
"Liberals use the statistics to try to advance group rights, and conservatives use the statistics to absolve themselves of guilt."

Really? What exactly are conservatives/libertarians guilty of that they require absolution? I'm really trying to ascertain the granularity of your thinking since I've met quite few idiots w/ graduate degrees in "soft science" disciplines. Enquiring minds want to know. Do enlighten me.

oracle1
You're right about the ILLEGAL, and I hung with you till that last sentence.

You said "blacks have a legal right to be in America". American born blacks, and blacks who have entered and/or immigrated to America legally have a right to be here. Skin color doesn't do it for blacks anymore than saying a white from Holland has a "legal right to be in America".

I think I understand what you mean though, and yes high instances of illegals does tend to be reflected in higher crime rates.

John, yeah actually...
...race did come up in the campaign, by Mr. Obama. And no, I don't think Mrs. Palin cared about that one way or another. Possibly you know something you would like to share or are you just playing the Whisper Palin Is A Racist And Pass It On game.

You may recall Obama playing the crowd and telling them things they were "going to hear" during the election and went on to mention his "funny name" and "Oh yeah, did I mention he's black?". If anyone was disappointed race didn't get brought up it was Mr. Obama, that's why he had to make sure it got brought up even if he had to do it himself.

By the way, you got proof that a large number of McCain voters voted for him over race, or do you just like saying those things?

By the way, maybe you didn't get the message, race doesn't matter anymore, Obama says so and we can now say anything we please cause the Attorney General says so.

some inconvenient truths here...
...in Linda'a column about black versus white demographics.

Funny how when she frequently defends ILLEGAL aliens (as they are pervading and degrading America) that she finds ways to look on the bright side.

Even a superficial review of the demographic stats on ILLEGAL aliens shows truly inimical, pandemic social pathologies... crime rates, drugs, gangs, illegitimacies, dropouts, social service enervation, school decimation, cultural balkanization.

And here is a VERY key difference-- blacks have a legal right to be in America.

john
95%(at least) of blacks voted for Obama. Any right-minded white would not have voting for a black man. Simply put the word racist is a non-word.

The very idea of racism implies a human norm that is not racist, and from which racism, by definition, would be a departure. But in what does this norm consist? Where in the world are there families and communities that are not based on this mutual preference for people who are similar? The answer is that, outside of marginal and cosmopolitan exceptions, the preference for one's own is the universal tendency. Since, then, there is no "non-racist" norm, from which racism would be a deviation, is it not clear that "racism," in its contemporary inflated sense, has no meaning at all? It has no more meaning than calling people with noses "nosists."

See "The Path to National Suicide" by Lawrence Auster.

America, born free, died enslaved...
America IS a Nation of Cowards. No doubt about it. We are all too busy to stand up and demand the freedom that is our birthright. Nothing is more cowardly than being born into a free country, and dying as a slave to central bankers. The first generations of American socialism are dying off. What lies ahead, after the government finally kills the goose that laid the golden eggs?

A politician in Chicago named Ken Dunkin just proposed universal gun confiscation for every FOID holder in IL, if they don't purchase $1,000,000 in life insurance. This just shows that even the victims of openly racist laws support those racist laws. Such is the depth of the lack of education in the USA.

It is impossible for uneducated men to be brave. After all, they may well be "bravely" demanding their own death, and a dramatic increase in rape and assault, as the gun prohibitionists in Chicago are doing. That doesn't get filed under bravery, it gets filed under stupidity...

So crack a book, y'all blithering idiot townhall rednecks! The Libertarian Party is waiting, after you've read "Send in the Waco Killers" and "The Creature From Jekyll Island"!

Maybe by that time, if you're a juror in a victimless crime case (like drug or gun possession, or tax evasion), you'll vote
"NOT GUILTY".

John's discovered proof
John you've done it, you're a genius. Well,no, you're actually an idiot. Why don't you try applying the same tortured logic(?) to the fourth amendment concerning the right of the "people" to be secure in their persons. Oh, and the state ratifications and the language employed in them would also have to be ignored. Keep trying, I'm sure you will as your concern is not truth, but deception, or maybe just disruption, but certainly not truth.

Holder and Conservatives are Cowards
See this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Eric_Wone

Holder was lawyer for the wife of Robert Wone, who was murdered at the house of his friends. yet the only people who were interviewed as suspects were not charged with anything for two years, to this day no one has been charged with the murder. Asian Americans were outraged when whites killed vincent chin, and conservatives pointed out when Jesse Dirkhising was victimized by LGBT attackers. A civil rights lawyer should not be above the law, but Holder evidently kept his distance from this case. Why conservatives have not taken notice is just as scandalous.

The first time this was posted, it was evidently removed, but this case does bear directly on the performance of Mr. Holder who evidently held back on prosecution in this case. The facts are there for anyone to investigate, the only mystery is why it remains obscure.


Holder and Conservatives are Cowards
See this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Eric_Wone

Holder was lawyer for the wife of Robert Wone, who was murdered at the house of his friends. yet the only people who were interviewed as suspects were not charged with anything for two years, to this day no one has been charged with the murder. Asian Americans were outraged when whites killed vincent chin, and conservatives pointed out when Jesse Dirkhising was victimized by LGBT attackers. A civil rights lawyer should not be above the law, but Holder evidently kept his distance from this case. Why conservatives have not taken notice is just as scandalous.

The first time this was posted, it was evidently removed, but this case does bear directly on the performance of Mr. Holder who evidently held back on prosecution in this case. The facts are there for anyone to investigate, the only mystery is why it remains obscure.


Property Rights and Racism in the USA
Chavez writes: "Then how do you explain that in 2005, according to Holder's own Department of Justice, black males between the ages of 14-24 represented only 1 percent of the population but committed almost 28 percent of homicides, and their victims were overwhelmingly other blacks?"

One word: Prohibition.

More words:

Racism was the excuse for the first drug prohibition (keeping out of work alcohol-prohibition agents employed was the actual reason). Harry Anslinger's testimony to congress actually cited racist reasons for outlawing marijuana! He said "white women were at risk of sleeping with black men and listening to devil music (like Jazz!)". Moreover, it isn't just mindless prohibition of drugs that violates the idea of property rights, and makes obvious hypocrites of "the right wing" of American politics: it is "jim crow" gun prohibition as well.

VOTE LIBERTARIAN, BE libertarian. Stop paying taxes. Stop voting for major party socialists like McCain. Oppose the government with every fiber of your body. When called for jury duty, tell the prosecutor what he/she wants to hear, and then nullify the law and acquit(assuming it is some form of unjust prohibition). Distribute http://www.fija.org material to your family and friends. Read everything you can by Harry Browne, Ayn Rand, Stefan Molyneux, and John Ross: "Unintended Consequences" and "How Drug Laws Hurt Gun Owners". Read G. Edward Griffin's books: "The Creature From Jekyll Island: A Second Look at the Federal Reserve" and "World Without Cancer".

Educate yourself!

Until you stop supporting our now socialist government, you are part of the problem, looking for a solution.

The Real Cowards
The real cowards are those silly white folks who voted for Obama for fear of being called "racist." Conservatives generally aren't afraid of discussing race, while liberals don't discuss race at all: they surrender their dignity and compromise what few principles they have and look positively foolish.

The rape hoax at Duke was an example of how far liberals will to go prostrate themselves at the altar of political correctness - even to the point they were willing to throw three completely innocent young men in jail for up to 30 years to satisfy the racist mob. Some protesting potbangers even carried "castrate" signs. It was not a glowing moment to be a liberal.

These days, all it means is that you're a wuss. And that you voted for Obama.

Being a Racist.

Being a racist doesn't mean you are a bad person. It just means you are a racist.

In a free society people have the right to be racist or not to be racist.

Many blacks are grateful to whites that their ancestors were brought to the new world. If not for whites, they would now be in Africa where poverty, hunger, desease, desparation, slavery, war & rebellian are still prevelent.

Educated American Blacks understand that they are far better off than blacks anywhere else on the planet.

Black on White Racial Crime-Whitewashed?
My daughter,along with two boys, were attacked on a city bus by a group of nine black kids. I contacted four editors at local paper. Nothing happened. I then contacted a reporter directly and a story was published, alas without any reference to race. If this incident was reversed, with a white on black student involved,it would have been in the paper for weeks, with white prejudice being examined thoroughly. During my conversations with other bus drivers of all race and creed, I found out that black on white crime on the buses is the norm. There will be no progress on race relations until black politicians admit that there is a serious problem of black prejudice. Eric Holder and other black politicians are the true cowards for not addressing the problem. Stop blaming "whitey" and take a look in your own backyard. The double standard of addressing racism is amazing.

well now...
There is something to be said about the long, strange trip AS the minority in question. I agree that self determination, discipline and with regards to self examination, we can all benefit and learn from it. But it's taken for granted that there isn't MORE unfairly demanded FROM a typical black person with less to show for the effort. Therefore it looks like 'they don't try hard enough'.
Perhaps this is the sticking point so hard to discuss honestly.
And few people have the courage to do so.

But perhaps the question is: does the dominant culture appreciate what THEIR skin privilege has done for them and continues to?
Not just as individuals and for how long from generation to generation?
What does the entire of the representative government, the engine of capitalism and justice LOOK like and mostly ALWAYS has until VERY recent years?
Assuming that it's a victim mentality and NOT simple honesty about experience shows a remarkable lack of courage for hearing someone out.
The sad stats that Chavez points out, are also part and parcel of the low expectations that our nation and society has typically had for black people.

If Holder didn't have a point it wouldn't BE so remarkable, historical or atypical for a black person to be where Holder is in the first place.

I see a lot of people here (especially who AREN'T black) saying how 'tired they are' of race being an issue.
Believe me, no one wants and knows that more than a black person.
And no other people have been as exhausted from it either.
Let's just say, it's important to note who talks about race, and also gay related issues, without feeling any obligation to actually consult the people whose lives are being discussed and affected by the issue.

This shouldn't be about apology and guilt, but about acknowledgment and respect without judging those whose experience is simply different from yours, and likely HAS been harder because of the color bar.
Fair?



Ralphy
Just because some people decided to say a cartoon with a chimp was racist doesn't mean it was really true.

I am so tired of the pathetic, ignorant, amoebas that cry racism and feign outrage at anything and everything. These people are nothing more than race pimps, prostituting themselves for their own gain.

Oncealwaysamarine
There have been any number of studies which show a "Monkey" is smarter than a human. This being the case we unfairly insult them when we make references to ignorance. South Africa has a "Model" which we might use to reconcile our past. I am more than certain being a marine does not include "Whining". But it does appear you have a "Gift".Some people talk,while others DO...

19% graduation rate...
Yes we are a nation of cowards. We allow 19% of black males to graduate from Indianapolis high schools and do nothing about it. What are the other 80% supposed to do? Mop floors? Sell dope? Cut a rap record? That's less than one in five. Union teachers are protected. The soft bigotry of low expectations indeed.

Christiancons
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Thanks for your comments.

You and they are appreciated very much by very many of us.

My children were raised without racial prejudices being displayed or discussed. They are of mixed race themselves as there mother is Latin American and several shades darker than I with her native Indian heritage added to the Spanish. Seems to have made no difference to my boys nor to their mother who learned a small profession and has worked until now, and very much appreciated by her contemporaries. What you do and how you do it are the important factors. Not that small accent from changing languages nor that skin tone that is darker.

She mentioned to me years ago that white southerners and Texans in general were, as I could easily observe, her best friends, this in spite of the fact that she came to the U.S.A. with a different attitude developed from seeing Hollywood's movies of the way it supposedly is in this country. Yes, she was fearful of what her lot would be after Hollywood got through making it's mark on her, but fortunately she didn't shut her eyes to reality and found reality to be a very different lady.

My boys learned discrimination after they went into military service, but also learned why it exists and with whom. Act responsibly and you shall be shown and given responsibility and respect in quantities that others are also given those premiums. Sure, some of us are more beautiful or have some factors that help us in life. Most whites could tell you they would have liked to be born with more advantages and to have been given things that others didn't receive.

We weren't except to that degree we like and appreciate ourselves and to that degree that others recognize us. Let's go to work, O.K.??.
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Got me thinking Lexx777
Their is something to the history of blacks in America. First they were taken from their land. By whites and blacks. Then enslaved, then given freedom, then given this that and the other. It's mostly been given and taken by someone else.
Now look at the history of whites in this country. My family came from Scotland, to Boston in 1734. I can say we fought and won our freedom, land, money, and so on. We've gotten things on our own.
Taking your life in your own hands is true freedom and the American dream. And today we're losing that ability for both whites, blacks, and all Americans. By both right and left party leaders. A day will come when all side and colors come together. To put a stop to our governments madness.

Linda Chavez = A+ = Stop the Blubbering
Finest thing she possibly has ever written for us.

I am visibly impressed by the comments that follow. They are exactly on target, each in it's own way.

Victim's.??. Yes, first by the black's in Africa who enslaved them and sold them to Dutch and French (primarily) slave traders, who in turn found ready markets for them in the French and Spanish Caribbean and then later in the New Orleans (French) and Charleston markets. White Americans set them free and have been here to lend a helping hand to every deserving person of black or any other race for the last 6 generations.
We ain't perfect, but you would have to look hard and long to find a people on this planet more fair and democratic than "white Americans" so stop blubbering and get to work.

Those who blubber are either liberals taking advantage of blacks or they're simply blacks who seem to want to admit "we can't compete".

Well, you can compete, so get out there and compete and stopppp the crybaby stuff.
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Eric is The Racial Coward
His attitude is what is wrong with the black victocrat society in America. If you can't forget your own racial prejudices and have to remind everyone of them then you are a Racist. Simple.

If you think race is important...
...then you are a racist.

Your right but
You know what, I don't even want to deal with the situation. It's a lose lose for whites. This issue is some thing blacks have got to figure out on their own. Until then blacks and white liberals are going to keep racism going strong. Or at least until the race card no longer serves it's purpose.
I think the vast majority of whites are like me. In that, we're more concerned with our families, jobs, finances, politics, and even our selves, then we are messing with other races. My biggest beef would be against illegal immigration. And that problem lies more on enforcing the law and politics, then it does Mexicans.
In my teenage years I spent a lot of time in Europe. I was into hip hop, metal, tech-no, and stuff like that. I also hung out with mostly immigrants. Like Turk, Indian, Spaniard, Dutch, and Italian. When I was 15, I was living at this school outside of London. And some friends and I were going to take the underground to the Virgin Records in London. On the way this black man hears me talking and asked if I was American. I said "yay, why?". He starts in on me about blacks in America. First he asked me "Why do blacks act the way they act in America?". Then he tells me that he's different and that "black people out side America aren't like that". He had this half mad, half sad look on his face. I just told him "I don't know". He kind of freaked me out at the time. I honestly had no idea what he was talking about. I'd spent a lot of time in Europe at that point. I can't say what he was thinking but, I can say he's right about blacks outside the USA. And I think it's because they don't have any thing against white people. What ever that "thing" might be.

Listen to the Messiah
I truly believe the Democrats want to keep blacks and minorities "on the plantation" in ghettos and low quality neighborhoods. That retains them as a voting bloc of receipients on the government dole...if they branch out into better living circumstances, they may be able to diagnose their own problems without being absolutely indoctrinated with the black/minority culture of despair. Girls who have children out of wedlock are financial assets to their families.

It has been 150 years since the Civil War, and in all that time blacks have always been unwilling to acknowledge responsibility for their "condition"...and who is supporting their free ride in society? I do not have to tell you that.

Most of the educated blacks such as those now in office, look down on the voting blocs that put them in positions of authority based on promises of access to a utopian society...they falsely put the blame on white society...but they tend to listen to "their own" rather than to those who can pragmatically see the problem. Fasten your seat belts!It is going to be a rough four years!

Which group really are the "cowards"?
It's interesting that on the day following the inciteful rhetoric of our erstwhile Attorney General, that such an uproar would ensue about some perceived racism alleged to have been shown in a political cartoon which played off the rampage of a wild chimpanzee, in which police officers, after putting down the rampaging chimp, are quoted as saying, "Looks like now they'll have to get someone else to write the next stimulus bill."

The very idea that this would bring out the usual chorus of race-hustlers, race-baiters, and racism whiners; all claiming that this was a racist attack against Barack Hussein Obama, is what exemplifies the barriers blacks themselves have put up to block any serious and meaningful attempts for anyone to even attempt to broach a discussion of race with members of the so-called "black community."

Are we so thin-skinned as to not have the courage, ourselves, to make a distinction between an insult to the writers of the "stimulus" [Nancy Pelosi,Harry Reid, and Congress] and Barack Obama [who as far as what has been submitted into evidence, so far, has never written anything but two self-aggrandizing narcissistic tomes about what it was like to be conflicted as a mixed-race child]?

Are not the real cowards the group of left-leaning blacks who predictably play the race card, making an opportunity to do so, when none exists in the first place?

How can anyone broach the subject of race and responsibility when all they're ever met with is a hysterical response from black people and their so-called leaders, whenever any subject is broached which upsets our comfort-level with being perceived as perpetual victims of the very "racism" we use to excuse our own cowardice in taking a responsible approach to getting our own houses in order?

I hate the race conversation
I hate it because I feel bludgeoned. I happened to be married, with two children. My spouse and I both have masters' degrees. We are not victims. I tend to view skin color as a benign physical trait. I view my black American Heritage and my American Heritage with pride.

Black Americans are the most successful black people on the planet. America is great country that has gone a great distant on matters of race all on her own.

So why do I feel bludgeoned, because whenever race comes up people start shouting statistics of black failure? Then they start blaming groups for the failure instead of acknowledging that individuals make choices that lead to failure.

I hope we do not discuss race.

At least I hope conservatives will stop using statistics to defend themselves against false charges because they just make themselves look like liberal in reverse. Liberals use the statistics to try to advance group rights, and conservatives use the statistics to absolve themselves of guilt.

And black conservatives who have been playing by the rules are just left bruised, and dazed on the side of the road.

Rights vs Responsibilities
One party speaks ENDLESSLY about rights; one party speaks about responsibilities.
Rights are appealing; responsibilties are not.
Which will the MOB more readily find appealing?
Which party has been for decades a sychophant to the MOB?
Which party has recently received more votes in exchange for what they offer?
C'mon...which party?
Good-bye country!

Ms.Chavez
When you see Michelle Malkin,please share this consideration. We only have 7 years and 11 months to go... I am pulling for the President too!!!

Race Card - No
Race isn't a card, it's more like a bludgeon. One reason whites are reluctant to discuss race with blacks is fear of being subjected to extreme verbal abuse by the PC Thought Police operated by the Civil Rights Whores and their minions. Another is White Guilt produced primarily by the education establishment's incessant indoctrination of white children, blaming them for slavery and teaching them that they are to this day racist thus to blame for the plight of blacks.
ML Bushman- Your point echoes one I've been making for years. That as long as there's a gubmint program to "fight" something, whether it's racism, poverty, or whatever, that something will continue to exist.

Not a coward, just fed up
I don't want to talk about race with anyone -- not black, not white, not male, not female, NO ONE. The reason is -- I am fed up to my eyeballs with conversations about race because they are always about inequality, lack of justice, etc. -- in short, about REDISTRIBUTION of something that a minority WANTS but isn't willing to go out and sweat for. Gimme gimme gimme cuz I'm black. Hogwash. Go out and strain your back for it, the way I did.

This morning on Fox News, a black congressman from, I believe, S.C., said that if the governor of S.C. refuses to take ALL of the stimulus cash, it "would be a slap in the face of all African Americans in that state." Good grief! You wanna know why some of us are fed up beyond our eyeballs? Because people like this particular congressmen make EVERY SINGLE LITTLE TINY THING racist. First word out of his mouth -- racist racist racist. My feeling is -- go choke.

If it rains, it's racist. If the sun shines in Miami but not in Charleston, it's racist. Everything single little thing that doesn't work out EXACTLY the way a black person wants is racist.

Well -- I guess I'm a racist because I'm fed up and I don't want to talk to anyone about it. In fact, the LESS I hear about it, and the LESS I see people yapping about it, the better. Obama and his crew are gonna' kill this nation, pure and simple. Some of us are already looking for where we move next.

well now
We are not a nation of cowards when it comes to race, but many people are afraid or hesitant to take a stand on this issue. That is one of the reasons we fail to have meaningful dialogs on race. Race is not the only issue with this problem. We don’t see it as much because most folks who visit blogs like to speak out. Often our willingness to do so blinds us to the insidious aspect of human nature that craves anonymity.

We are a nation of coward
when it comes to facing the consequences of our own decisions. This applies to cultural issues, as detailed in this article as well as financial issues, as seen in the financial bailouts.

Who cares.
What anyone from this admin has to say. The new boss, same as the old boss. All the states should throw them all out and start over. Oh wait.....thats starting to happen now.

ERIC HOLDER - NO REALITY HERE

by saying there is not enough conversation about race and that we ae a country of cowards.

The issue of race has been discussed since the first black slaves were brought to the American shores. Our fore fathers addressed the issue. 600,000 Americans died in the civil war to settle the issue. Civil rights issues were topics of discussions since the Civil War. White Americans also marched in Selma, Alabama and other cities. A majority of white Americans were proud of our country when the Civil Rights legislation was passed.

Thank you Eric Holder for being proud of a country which continuously makes every effort to right it's wrongs and are never cowards in that effort.

MR. HOLDER, YOU HAVE LOST MY RESPECT.


A Nation of Cowards?!?
We've beat the race issue into the ground and beating a dead horse is useless. Let's instead focus on unsociable or worse behaviors regardless who commits them.

Discrimination is genetically encoded and generally a good thing. If you can’t discriminate between a hungry saber-tooth tiger and a tasty deer then you won’t be around for long. Discrimination has survival value but it has to be used sensibly. I’m personally “color blind” when it comes to race but I’m very sensitive to known aberrant behavior as a red light of discrimination. If the behavior does not conform to conduct of good citizenship and the Ten Commandments then, yes, I will raise my walls of protection and maybe even actively take action against the obnoxious or dangerous behavior. I have been called racist for taking such action although in my opinion it was totally the “wrong label”.

I personally have huge reservations about the president elect’s beliefs and motivations. I don’t believe he truly holds The Declaration of Independence and The Constitution as sacred. I believe he sees these venerable masterpieces of freedom, liberty, and conservatism as something “whities” came up with and are to be interpreted to advance his socialistic and race-based agenda. THE PRETENDER IS THE RACIST HERE!

Lawyers don’t know beans about how to effect sane change or wisely manage! They know how to obstruct, obfuscate, create red tape, manipulate (usually for the wrong reasons and effects), and teardown existing structures but in no way can they be truly constructive. They are a destructive force and not even an enlightened one at that. Lawyers are a profession exclusively dedicated to their self-interests. At this time we need enlightened construction or reconstruction. The change we’ll get is more of the same crud or worse but packaged as luscious chocolates and with B.O. painted as the savior of the country if not the planet. BALONEY!, I say!

Why I Am A Certified Racist...
1) I am against big government and big government bailouts for failing institutions;
2) I don't want to pay for someone else's mortgages, nor share my wealth;
3) I don't want to be punished for having a successful business;
4) I voted for a Hero and not a handout;
5) I believe that the government works for me and I don't work for the government;
6) I believe that this country was founded of Judeo-Christian principles which once made us great;
7) I believe the government is the problem; not the solution to the problem;
8) I don't want to be told who I can't disagree with or suffer jail time for uttering "hate-speech";
9) I am against the Fairness Doctrine - knowing that AM Talk Radio would be squelched, but not NBC, PBS and NPR
10) I believe that God as already sent us a savior and his name is not Barack H. Obama.

What prompted me to post these was a comment made by neighbor today. When I said to him I believed the Democratic party should be renamed the Socialist Party, he responded: "Shh, someone might call you a racist for saying that!" OK, let's add that to my list of ten giving me 11 reasons why I am a racist, even though there is nothing implicitly or explicitly noted in these statements which even allude to me being a racist. It's just that I don't agree with the Democratic Party which means I don't agree with their leader, who just happens to be black, which then means I hate blacks. You had to stretch a long way to arrive at that conclusion didn't you?


I realize there are probably several more reasons for me being a certified racist, not the least of which is because I occasionally watch Fox News. Democracy, as we once knew it, is quite possibly dead. One thing is for certain, if our Founding Fathers were to return from the dead and see what we have done to our country, they quite possibly would lead another revolution! Maybe its time that we should too!

Those who argue for their limitations...
...get to keep them.

If blacks in the worst communities insist on leaving children in substandard schools and fight against the real reform required to improve those schools, any further discussion is a waste of time. If black parents do not insist their children work hard in school and create a supportive home life that values education, nothing will change.

Seawolf and Mother of 4 sum up the social/cultural issues nicely.

As Caucasian adoptive parent of an Asian child I had to take a lot of parenting classes related to race in America. The big difference is, Asian Americans in general do not have a "vitimhood" mentality.

Yes, there are times Asians deal with racism, we heard several adult adoptees describe personal experiences, but they seem to only see racism in specific incidents where someone uses racial slurs, or says something clearly nasty. They do not seem to have this sense that white people generally have subconscious racist attitudes that permeate society and keep Asians down.

Also, based on certain behaviors like the ones Mother of 4 referenced, Asians tend to engage in beneficial behaviors and the natural consequences of those behaviors lead to a more prosperous and happy life.

Values feed behavior. The part of the black community (and some whites) that are suffering from the consequences of bad behavior will have to change their values THEN they will change their behavior. No one can do it for them.

Value family.
Value discipline.
Value education.
Value work.

Some black churches are a problem. If they would spend their time preaching the gospel and obedience to God's commands rather than victimhood orthodoxy, their new found biblical values would result in far less self destructive behaviors.

ERIC HOLDER IS OUT OF TOUCH WITH REALITY

by saying there is not enough conversation about race and that we ae a country of cowards.

The issue of race has been discussed since the first black slaves were brought to the American shores. Our fore fathers addressed the issue. 600,000 Americans died in the civil war to settle the issue. Civil rights issues were topics of discussions since the Civil War. White Americans also marched in Selma, Alabama and other cities. A majority of white Americans were proud of our country when the Civil Rights legislation was passed.

Thank you Eric Holder for being proud of a country which continously makes every effort to right it's wrongs and are never cowards in that effort.

MR. HOLDER, YOU HAVE LOST MY RESPECT.


This is what we get...
for not paying attention to our OBLIGATION as voters! We totally deserve all the crap that Obabba and his sleazy gang of thugs are just a poo-pooing all over the country. And make no mistake, Obabba and his merry gang have every intention of dividing the nation and making people fight each other. The only question is, "Why do people put up with the sorry sack of ---- who has slithered his way into the WH? And, what's worse is the Repubs. are in agreement with that sorry sack! For they are doing absolutely nothing!

Holder, Jackson, Whoopie and Al
When folks like the Attorney General talk about race, I just don't listen. I don't want to hear what I've been hearing for 40 years.

Equality before the law, and Equal opportunity, do not translate in to Equal outcome.

Most people don't know . . .
that it was REPUBLICANS that were instrumental in getting the CIVIL RIGHTS laws passed. The southern (and most northern) democrats were obstructionists and did what they could to undermine passage. (algore sr.)
As to "civil rights" laws, according to a commissioner of the "civil rights" division of the US justice department, "civil rights" laws do not apply to white males.
It is a fact that blacks were progressing at a faster rate BEFORE the "civil rights" laws were passed.
Let's face it, the "civil rights" laws destroyed "freedom of association" for everyone BUT blacks.
These "laws" also made it possible for race hustlers like al sharpton and jesse jackson to prosper.
It is a fact that blacks had a difficult time in pre-1960 America but the ones that lived through it were able to succeed on THEIR OWN MERITS, just like everyone else.
Affirmative action has done a disservice to those blacks who did not receive preferential treatment. Nothing is more disconcerting to a qualified black who made it on their own to be lumped in with the "affirmative action" label.
The Ku Klux Klan could not have done a better job of denigrating blacks than the black "music industry has done with the "rap" and "hip-hop" culture.
Message to blacks--heal thyselves.

When your church promotes racism
like Trinity UCC, the Obamas church of choice for over 20 years, how can anyone expect this administration to want to have a conversation about race.

Trinity was founded on the idea of blacks being captives in an America that is out to kill and or imprison them. If your moral compass is set by the idea that blacks are victims of a racist country what is there to discuss? All problems that beset the black community will be attributed to a racist white society.

Black on black crime, black welfare rates, black drug use, black prison rates, one parent black families, etc can all be traced to hook nosed whites who crucified a black Jesus. This is the gospel according to Rev oh so Wrong and is taken as universal truth by the Obamas and their fellow congregants at Trinity!

The eleventh hour unconversion by the Obamas is unconvincing. Calling Rev Wrong your mentor, pastor and spiritual guide for 23 years makes a mockery of "never heard God d@@m the USofKKK" and "we are resigning from this church."

When your church tells you that you are a victim it takes no leap of faith to believe that your lot in life has been set in stone by a hateful, racist white power that cannot be overcome. Indeed as Michelle Obama so eloquently stated "Barack's running for president is the first time in my life that I am proud to be an American." What else would a disciple of Trinity say?

Mr Holder go back to getting pardons for the Marc Rich's of this world and do not propose talking about race. You might hear something you co not like!

Quickie Quiz
Which of the following statements is true? (choose only one)

1) America is a nation of cowards

2) Washington D.C. is a town full of idiots

choose only one

Dr. Douglas
"The covert racism occurs at a barely conscious level, and is found in a very large proportion of the population."

Oh! This must be what Jesse Jackson meant when he said that when he hears footsteps behind him he's relieved to find it's a white man.

Nation of cowards
This race thing is starting to get really old. The cities with the highest crime rates and cities with the lowest high school graduation rates are all mostly black and have been run by the democratic officials that blacks put in office. Democrats have run these cities for the last 40 years. They have done nothing to help the black family. Fathers who father children out of wedlock must help with raising the child and supporting it. That is not happening. Take responsibility and things will change, until then there is no hope. I have many black friends. We get along great and race is not an issue. Race doesn't come up, it doesn't have to. We have respect for one another as people. End of story. Respect people and you will get respect.

Thank you!
So many in this country, have been thinking and saying the same thing for years. It does get old in a real hurry.

I don't hear too many thing's that would stand in defense of those who aren't racist. Obviously it is not being preached as much by the leader's of communities, who tend to still believe that the white man is trying to hold everyone down.

It get's real old.

But, to those who have broken through, and those who will always break through.....I salute you.

And to Mr. Holder......apology accepted.

Holder the Coward
Hey Holder - when you point a finger it comes right back at ya! You are the coward, you are the rascist! When was the last time we had "White History Month"? When was the last time we had "Native American Month"? We celebrate the communist fraud MLK Jr. every year and a bigger deal of made of that than George Washington or Lincoln's birthdays. It's OK to do a cartoon about Geroge Bush that looks like a monkey but not 2 cops shooting a real monkey. You feign BS outrage. The root of the problem is you are too coward to admit that the problem is PERSONAL RESPONSOBILITY! You have none yourself, so you blame everything on race.
Grow up!

Blacks Shouldn't Be Blamed
Black folks should not be blamed for this "race" mess we're in. It is not their fault, it is the fault of Whites. More specfically: White Liberals.

Imagine if you had grown up your entire life hearing how pitiful you are. Blacks hear it every day. They hear how they're last in this, the lowest in that, they need help with this, need help with that, being denied this, that and the other. They've been made to believe since they were "knee-high to a duck", that the whole world hates them because they're: Black.

And who is doing this to them...rednecks with Confederate Flags? No, it's the very people who call themselves trying to help: Liberals.

Liberals are the real and true "racists" in our society. They look at Blacks as nothing more than helpless, inferior people. But have no fear Black folks...the mighty White Liberal is here to save the day!

Liberals use Blacks as props, but they couldn't give a rat's-butt about them. And so Liberals have created all of this racist hysteria involving Blacks, just so they can then run around pretending to be the big hero and save them from all the mean and nasty White people who want to send them back into Slavery!

And when it is politicians, Media, Academia and Uncle Tom "Civil Rights Leaders" bombarding them with all the racial crap on a daily basis...that's pretty hard to overcome.

I am always amazed at the ones who do.

being a fool
Dr. Douglas one of the great difficulties of being a fool, is that inherently one doesn't realize that one is. So I will help you, YOU ARE A FOOL. Your comment was essentially a non sequitur as it does not address the fact that even if people are racist it is not those people having children out of wedlock, and it is the irresponsibility of those who leave fatherless children behind not the racism of others that perpetuates the cycle of poverty, and your inability or choosing not to recognize this makes you a fool.

Return to the 21st century Mr. Holder
If anyone is keeping racism alive today it is individuals like Holder who dwell on the past. Let us not forget, Mr. Holder, the overwhelming benefits offered to minorities; The UNCF, Thurgood Marshall Fund, and Jack and Jill of America Foundation are just a few of the organizations that provide academic scholarships to African Americans.

Plus, doesn't it appear as though African Americans segregate themselves? Take for example, the Black Entertainment Awards.

How dare you insult the very country that provided you the opportunities to become the man you are and hold the position you do today? You, Mr. Holder, are the coward for not admitting to the advancements our country has made in the past five decades regarding civil rights!

The Cavalier Attitude
This is a white country. . . And while I believe that everyone has a right to the freedoms that we enjoy here, it is still a white democracy. It is played that way. There are differences in colors and cultures, and comments like Holders show just where he is coming from. These radical black politicians need to shut up and do their jobs. Just look at the people that Øbama has selected to work with him, many are guilty of moral or ethical violations, as is Øbama. Why does he just not show us his birth certificate? something is wrong, and it seems like he is wanting to destroy this country from the top down. 20 years of "God Damn America" has its influence. I say it is time to put this political pariah to the task. First the Birth certificate, and then all of his socialistic contacts. Øbama is going to ruin or great white nation. . .
Strong words, Yes, but it is not the color of the man skin, it is his novice and cavalier attitude, and socialistic agenda that has my blood boiling. . .
I believe that Øbama is an IVY league crook!

Mr. Holder, let's talk about:
ERADICATION OF:
out of wedlock babies,
fatherless children,
black criminals and gangstas,
women-demeaning, violence praising rap music AND YOUR IDEAS FOR THE BLACK COMMUNITY SUCH THAT YOU CAN PROUDLY SAY:
we don't take welfare,
we discipline our children,
we have high marriage rates and intact families,
we don't listen to trash talk or music
we don't make excuses nor blame others,
we are proud Americans first...
LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU ARE AVAILABLE, MR HOLDER...

Arrogant
Nothing new, Obama need to read to his cabinet the words of the first elected female africam american judge whom also happened to be from Chicago. The elitism might understand the words prejudice, bias, and discrimination.

Re: Cowardess???
The real cowards here is the present Admin. with the fact that they insist that they know how to fix everything and stand up in front of the American people and tell them they know what to do?? Bullhudda, these people are the real cowards for not doing the RIGHT things like really giving a tax break to business and not bailout the losers and stop giving loans to losers and stop taxing the 10% for acheiving!!!
Yes, this Admin. is the ones who are the cowards for not doing what I said they should do!!!

It's funny,
Didn't someone in the Bush admin say we were a nation of wusses or crybabies, or something like that? And didn't he get vilified for daring to voice that?

Exactly
Linda is right on. If we could have THAT conversation, THEN we would truly be discussing the issues. But the only conversation "they" want is one that blames me and my forefathers. One that gives more bailouts, more welfare, and more income redistribution.

cowards attack straw men
What a powerful attack on an argument that Holder didn't actually make. In fact Holder explicitely made the point that modern segregation is largely an issue of self-selection, so the idea that he argued that all of the race ills in this country are a matter of whites discrimination against blacks is just false.

I think that is the sense that Holder is right. Chavez's column could have been phrased as a positive contribution to the discussion of race which built on what Holder said. Instead it was a straw man attack on argument that Holder didn't make that seems more designed to suggest that anyone who disagrees with Chavez isn't worth having a discussion with.

That is the cowardly approach.

You took the words right out of my mouth
To Fred in Tennessee...Amen!

How many folks believe...
...that Civil Rights was a good thing?

Almost everyone, I suspect. And so hear is what most believe was a great thing:

1. Go to the Blacks in America and tell them that the White Man hates them because they are Black. Tell Blacks that the White Man has hated them, murdered them, beaten them and have kept them oppressed just because they are Black. Then tell the Blacks that they are owed because of how they have been mistreated, hated and abused. And tell them that the government is going to get them their just due.

2. Go to the Whites in America and tell them they are racists and bigots. Accuse them of enslaving Blacks. Accuse them of raping and murdering Blacks. Accuse them of being hate-filled racist rednecks who've treated Blacks worse than rabid dogs. Then tell them that they are going to pay and pay dearly for what they have done to Blacks.

Sounds like a great way to bring people together, doesn't it?

And ever since Civil Rights, the majority of Blacks have thrown in the towel. They've been convinced that the White Man hates them, always will hate them and they have no future in the country. So, they figure they might as well sit back and collect what they can. Besides, it's owed to them.

The majority of Blacks believe the whole world hates them. And that notion was brought about by Civil Rights and the continual effort by the Media and Academia to make them feel this way.

Yes will the Attorney General
have the courage of Bill Cosby?

Number 1.
White children are not raised to believe that they are victims of hatred by another race, and will never be able to overcome this hatred in order to have successful lives.

Number 2. It isn't wise to have the government sticking its nose in your business.

Number 2. White people go to church to praise God not to scream about how much they hate people of a different skin color. In fact if my Pastor ever said anything close to what Reverand Wright said he'd be out on his butt in the parking lot.

I do not like OBAMA 's character or his princilples but it doesn't mean that I think all black people are evil because he is.

Heather
You are right! Seperation of those groups you mentioned is necessary for the continuation of the democratic party. I think we can all agree dems tend to focus more on social issues where reps focus more on fiscal issues. If all the social issues are resolved then what purpose would we have for the dems? They make a living off creating hatred for the "greedy" republicans. Look at those groups you mentioned. The dems would say that republicans hate blacks, gays and the poor.

Thank you Linda
for this article. It really needed to be said. And bravo to Terry from Georgia with his twilight zone post. It is so very true.

Why Racism Won't Die
Holder is just helping his friends make more money.

Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, et al, champion the cause of racism every chance they get because the more public they are, the higher their speaking fees. This is simple marketing 101. Create a need and fill it.

Racism is a multi-million, perhaps even billion dollar industry. Those who stand to gain the most will not let the issue die. All you have to do is follow the money. Jackson and Sharpton certainly are.

Holder wouldn't like what we have to say
Personally, and I know so many other people that feel the same way as I do, I am sick of having it shoved down my throat day in and day out that black people deserve to be treated better than any other race of people. Bull! The only thing a conversation is going to do is anger our nation. The black people are angry from birth..because of what they have been taught about the past. Well, it is not the past, it is the present and the future. Reverse racism is so apparent in this nation and it is all done in a legal way...why? We are told that white society did wrong by not allowing blacks to participate or take part in certain parts of their lives...but isn't it the same thing now with TV channels strickly for black people like BET or Black colleges, or college funds or the NAACP or weighted job applications or Black Miss America and it just goes on and on and on. The black people have been given 'special attention' and 'special breaks' for so long now they have come to believe that they deserve them forever. Why, because they have black skin and an injustice was done to others with black skin generations ago? How long does a society have to pay for a society's past mistake? It is insane to think that simply because there were slaves in the past that white people now have to continue to pay for that!!! Life is not fair and we should not have to continue for the rest of eternity to make it up to everyone of black color. Enough! If we carry our babies instead of helping them to learn to walk we will be carrying them forever and never have taught them to stand on their own two feet...black people, by thinking they are owed for eternity never learn to walk. Why should they. We have carried them for so long and now they cannot walk on their own and if they try and fail then the fall back is that same old, same old. It is society's fault. Crap...just crap.

Thank You Linda
Yeah! For having the fortitude to discuss openly in script some of the real differences. Eric Holder, simply wants to whine and cry and yell "Blacks are Victims" beyond their control. It seem by the comment about the leaders of the education systems in the largest cities being black, that it is the Black Leaders that want to keep the black people back and not address the real issue of personal responisibility and the integrity of a "Christian Work Ethic". Maybe the blacks need to first get right amoung themselves before pointing the finger at another race.

What better way to divide?
Yes, the election of the first black President does not mean that racism is dead. But what better way to keep the different people separated, blacks against whites, gays against straights, poor against rich. Seems if they keep the rift between us all then they will continue to GOUGE us.
But then again, Jackson and Sharpton make a living off of this hatemongering, why not the POTUS and the AG??

Conversation?
There will NEVER be a "real" and open conversation about race in America because people like Sharpton and Jackson seek to shut down opinion they dont like. Well in order to have a REAL discussion you have to be REAL about what others believe whether you like those beliefs or not. As sad as it is it is also true that some people dont like other people who are differentthen them and no amount of force or "conversation" is going to change their mind. Folks like Sharpton and Jackson and apparently Holder need to see the cowardice in themselves that they so easily seem to identify in others.

Race? Or Behavior?
As I said to Dr. Douglas, creating formless groups based on something as trivial as skin color is nonsensical.

Walter Williams has come up with 4, simple BEHAVIORS that foster success. They are totally independent of race.

"Avoiding long-term poverty is not rocket science. First, graduate from high school. Second, get married before you have children, and stay married. Third, work at any kind of job, even one that starts out paying the minimum wage. And, finally, avoid engaging in criminal behavior."

http://www.capmag.com/article.asp?ID=4223

And speaking of cowards
Holder stands surrounded by highly-trained bodyguards, who are armed with the state of the art in weaponry and communications and who are empowered to disable, jail or kill anyone who makes a physical move towards Holder, and insults everyone in the country who disagrees with him.

Coward and hypocrite to boot.

By their words you shall know them...
Obama, "I will stand with the Muslims"
Holder, "You are a nation of cowards"
Rahm Imanuel "Never let a crisis go to waste"

These revelations show their incredibly poor statesmanship. Already they abuse the sacred trust inherent in their leadership role, preferring instead to incite distrust, anger and resentment.

These statements are just the tip of the iceberg revealing their own racist brand of revenge, blame and denial.

They are leading the crusade to their own demise.

Dr. Douglas & discussions
Let's discuss, shall we?

Dr. Douglas once posted that his own university, Oregon State, was too poor to hire teaching assistants. In fact, as I learned in 5 minutes on the OSU website, OSU does indeed hire TAs. They also recognize and negotiate with the TAs collective bargaining unit. And OSU has a special award to recognize excellence among TAs.

I just want to remind everyone who'd done Dr. D the courtesy of responding to him that the man is either a hopeless ignoramus, a pathological liar, an utter fool, or some combination of all 3.

We talk about race TOO MUCH!
We will not have a colorblind society as long as we keep talking about race. It's not possible. And Eric? Yeah, you! Light bulb in socket you!

Holder just gave us the finger
I say screw him. He'll be as corrupt as Ron Brown, with infinitely more power to mess with all of us.

I'm a conservative, registered independent. All repubs are good for is choking the chicken and all the dhimmicrats are good for is killing the goose. Between the two parties, we're going to be bent over for years, along with the next couple of generations.

Our investment/retirement accounts are now down over 60%. I'm cashing then out today so I can pay IRS for another "mistake" we made on '07 taxes. To paraphrase an old saw, "A man who does his own taxes has a fool for an accountant."

"Hope" and "change," my butt! Obama has only been Dear Leader for one month - we had hoped to have some change left in our pockets, but alas, we're apparently in the group who gets to pay for the socialization of Amerika.

We can still pray in the privacy of our own homes, but I wouldn't be surprised to see them making that against the law soon.

I predicted Obama would be an unmitigated disaster, and unfortunately, I'm not disappointed. This administration is thoroughly corrupt, and we haven't even scratched the surface.

Glad to see some protests springing up wherever the Annointed One shows up. You didn't see them on the Down Stream Media, did you?

You know it's bad when Russia AND Sweden are warning US not to do what we're doing.

Blacks will never be completely accepted
nor prosper in this country until they give up this victimhood mentality fostered on them by democrats who want their vote and use them for that purpose and their preachers who claim to represent them, but only want their money and power over them. Cosby pointed out the warped sense of values in many of them and was excoriated for it.

I had this discussion with a black friend who will never get over the slave issue, I told him it was ironic that given their history and especially the holocaust, the Jewish people prosper everywhere, why? Because the keep their history, but never allow themselves to become victims after the fact, they move on, work hard and prosper.

Blacks are all about respect, but too many do nothing to earn it, too many believe every white guy they see is out to screw them...I served many years in the Navy, when you put your life in another guys hands, you don't care what color he is, just can I trust him to do the job..they ALL did and earned the respect, the were black MEN.

What I see on the streets warrants the use of the n-word..there is that difference and it won't go away till they start acting like the rest of us and clean up there act. We are tired of paying for their sloth, their crime and their irresponsibility, emulate those of all races that succeeded, don't denigrate your own as Tom's or sellouts...sellouts to what? The American way of doing things? Grow up or dig ditches for 4 more generations, just don't ask the rest of us to support you, I'm sick of it, I raised mine, you raise yours, life's tough, it's tougher when your stupid.

No cowards here MR.Holder, just an American who respects all other Americans that act the part and work towards bettering the country and is sick of dems who promote irresonsibility with my money.

MY reply to Jersey Vet
Yeah, I have to VERY RELUCTANTLY conclude that the evidence of something being seriously wrong with a disturbingly high % of blacks is so massive it can not be rationally dismissed. Our nation has experimented with handing blacks truly significant political power and the events of 1 month are all we need to see to understand that many blacks (the ones who buy into the DEMOCRATIC party and the left wing belief structure) have a serious problem that's about way more than just politics. I submit that their idea of life is all wrong and stress that I am trying not to stereotype since I recognize that there are conserative/libertarian blacks and also grossly confused left wingers of every stripe. But the verdict is reasonably in. Therefore, we need to ride this out amd retake both houses of Congress in 2010. The unbelievably arrogant display of insanity we are seeing is the best weapon we can possibly have at the ballot box.

Dr. Douglas
I disagree with your assessment that conservatives are more racist than liberals. It is not the conservatives who need to keep blacks in need of their entitlement promises in order to get elected. If the Republicans' platform seems unsympathetic (which you refer to as racist) to the poor (which is largely black), it is because conservatives equate human dignity with productivity and independence - not being a third generation, lifelong welfare recipient. You, with your mighty knowledge of psychology and sociology should be aware of that - but then liberals don't have much regard for the truth.

They do not want equality
They want revenge.

Blacks Must Bootstrap Themselves
Bingo! Linda Chavez's column should be read by everyone in the U.S. We are tired of hearing African Americans blaming all their problems on white Americans. Look at all the black millionaires in the sports, music, and screen acting communities. They didn't blame all their problems on whites: they got out there and hustled, using their natural talents to become successful.

With Barack Obama's election American citizens should laugh at those who continue to blame "white" society for their failure to succeed. It doesn't work any more. Throw away your crutches and start pulling yourselves up by your bootstraps. You have plenty of role models.

The problem is going to get worse when the blacks watch the growing population of Hispanic immigrants very quickly achieve success, based on their natural abilities and hard work.

Whites are not racist
Blacks are - and Obama and Holder are the worst type. It is disheartening, and in poor form, for them to carry this torch. It is clear that they are not the leaders of all of America. The first black president could put to bed once and for all any remnant of racism blacks still harbor, but so far, it appears that he and his administration could even make things worse.

Facts Smacts
Don't confuse the issue with facts. Its all about feelings. Anybody who disagrees with Holder, Obama, Maxine or any other leftist black politician are racists.

Get Real
They are working on the next Presidential election spreading the race crapola just like this election. The race topic needs to stop and tend to their own business and quit the feel sorry for me BS.

Blacks can have their own special organizations but what if the whites had white organizations. The government has made it easier for the blacks to get ahead (those that want to) than the whites so just what else do they want (a black government) then maybe they will be happy but I doubt it.




For CRYING OUT LOUD!
We talk CONSTANTLY about race. I am so sick of it I could puke. Whine, whine, whine. It is disgusting seeing these race p-i-m-p-s complaing for yet more "dialogue."

Thank you and mind your own freaking business. Go Away.

Laughable
And so it begins.

Holder just set back race relations by at least twenty years with his obviously racist comment.

With the exception of those so far gone as to be unredeemable, I imagine even his Liberal supporters must have winced when they heard this one.

The question is: when will they too tire of the double standard and admit where the real racism resides?

Terry-Valid points and so very true
What Holder means is that the race discussion is well past the victim mongering synthetic grievance shouters like Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Farrakhan.

For Holder that is the dialogue he wants, not a constructive meaningful one

We live in the Twilight Zone
Only in the surreal, would anyone dare to say that we don't talk enough about race in this country. Only in the surreal.

When the sun rises each day - we're talking about "race". When it sets - we still haven't shut-up about it.

Newspapers are filled with articles related to "race" - every single day. You can't watch the news without hearing something about "race". Nor on the radio.

Children are bombarded with teachings about "race" - from Kindergarten all the way through High School.

Every other State or Federal law that is passed - has something to do with "race". Whether it's supposed to help minorites with this, that or the other, or it's to prevent discrimination of this, that or the other - "race" is the theme.

How many movies are and have been made that are about racism or have a racial element or overtone to them? Are there any sitcoms out there that haven't dragged "race" into them in some fashion?

The workplace if full of laws, rules and regulations regarding "race".

Black comedians can't be successful unless they constantly make jokes about "race". Cosby is probably the only exception.

We are a society obsessed with "race". There's no aspect of our lives that "race" hasn't been dragged into. In fact, most folks alive today have no idea what living in a world that is not obsessed with "race"...is really like. I would love if we could have a "race-free" day - once a year.

Maybe it's Eric Holder's birth certificate that needs to be looked at. Because I have no idea what planet he is from!

Can the Crapola Holder..you stink
As my grandma used to say...
It takes on to know one

Obviously Holder himself is racist..if he thinks for one minute that the issues are white caused..they're not
They're based on the liberal indoctrination of victimhood and repeatedly shoved down the throats of every black or minority child placed in public education run by the NEA and cohorts.

If the racist in the Oval Office and the racist AG were honest (which they're not) they'd look at the facts not the emotions and THEN maybe they'd get somewhere but in the current political socialist climate that is never going to happen.

I suspect Holder
is part of that self-conscious generation that came of age in the early 70s to the later 80s. Too young to really be "down with the struggle" for civil rights, but a recipient of affirmative action-style helps that in part resulted from it. It's always bothersome to think you got where you did via a quota, and I think his need for "conversations on race" simply reflects his unease. I suspect those older and younger than Holder just aren't that into the whole racial thing.

Bev & all....
Thanks for saving me the trouble of creating a post.

Holder has revealed himself to be a mealy-mouth coward & arse. I know, I know...ad hominem isn't good, but little Eric isn't worth the effort. If we didn't know before his "cowards" comment what stuff he's made of - re pardoning terrorists - we sure as heck know now.

Another courageous pick by BO.

A Nation of Cowards
Here we have the 1st bkack Attorney General of the US appointed by the 1st black President telling us we need to have more dialog between the races, about the racial problems. OK!

I am of Irish descent through no part on my own, yes happen to be white. I have never held my boot on the neck of any black person to keep them back from what Holder thinks should be done. I do not associate with many blacks - however those I cross paths with are treated no different than I would with most white folks I cross paths with. However Mr. Holder I do not owe any black person reparations or any more consideration for social injustices perpetrated on them long before my ancestors migrated to this country, what I practice is acceptance of the human being, politeness and kindness. Other than that I have to go about my daily business of making my way in the world the best I can.

Mr. Holder in the first few weeks in your new position you with your indignant attitude you have cast your legacy already, "The fat mouthed Attorney General" that shows no gratitude for the gift and the burden placed on your shoulders as the attorney general of the United States of America.

Man you have already screwed up buddy, you will probably never live the "coward" comment down for the rest of your public career and you did it yourself.


Take the Mirror Test
Ms. Chavez:
Congratulations on a very good article.

I suggest that everyone (including the Attorney General) take a close look in a mirror and study carefully what particular shade of skin they see on the face in the mirror; and while doing so, ask themselves whether the color of that skin or any other color of skin is really of any significance whatsoever, or whether, in fact, the real issue of concern is what goes on inside the skull in the brain that is currently looking at the face in the mirror - the intelligence, knowledge, determination, character, work ethic, honesty, language skills, learning ability, trustworthiness, personality and all the rest.
Racial discrimination is illegal in our country and if instances of racial discrimination are taking place the Attorney General needs to see that such cases are prosecuted. Otherwise, perhaps we can agree that skin color is irrelevant and refocus our attention on the many significant problems we currently face, on things that actually do matter.

"things racial"
BET, the Black Caucus, Black Colleges, Black Miss America, the NAACP, Black History Month, the Million Man March, Black Pride, Detroit...

Did I miss any, Eric? You think it would be 'courageous' of me to talk about 'em? Okay -- then you tell me why there ain't WET, a White Caucus, White Colleges, an NAAWP, a White History Month, White Pride?

Or am I a 'racist' just for asking?

What a punk!

The Real Culprits!
I find it so annoying when certain people (liberals) find it so necessary to endlessly compare the alleged levels of racism between liberals and conservatives - and, of course, it's always the conservatives who turn out to be the worst offenders! Enough already! If you want to talk about racial hatred, try Planned Parenthood - or, as it was origionally called - The American Abortion Federation! Its' founder, Margaret Sanger was an ardent fan of Adolph Hitler and all that he believed in; in fact, the origional Board of Directors she brought on board were high ranking Nazi officers who, when WW11 ended, were still intent on finishing what they had started - namely, racial cleansing!
You might find it interesting, as I do, that most of Planned Parenthoods' aboratoriums are located in black neighborhoods! Who supports Planned Parenthood - liberals - NOT conservatives! Do the math!

Holder let's address the facts .
If you are going to get a girl pregnant, then you take financial responsibility for you child, black or white. Study hard, learn to read, be responsible for yourself. Don't cry racism when you can't get a job because you can't read or comprehend. Stop believing Liberals when they tell you, you are victums. They are just using you. You are better than that. You have a lot to offer to the community but you have to work hard just like everyone else. Black or white, life is unfair, get use to it.

I've got a good idea....
Let's do away with that obvious race based prejudice that is corrupting our society, affirmative action.

The time for it's relavence has clearly already passed and with a black President and Attorney General it is clear that it is no longer needed. I say let's hire, and promote on merit not some artifical racial sterotype.

Oh, that isn't what Attorney General Holder had in mind? He wanted the white community to be emoting some more about how guilty they feel so he could tilt the legal system in the US even more toward his own interests and that of the Democratic Party.

I understand we are a "nation of cowards" because we lack the strength to speak the truth to corrupt government officals like Holder.

Say that to a Vet
He insulted Vets and or Soldiers of today with that comment. Whites and Blacks in a war zone are watching each others back. It is not about the war it is all about watching each others back. It is all about your buddies.Obama and his picks to lead this country are a bunch of worthless cowards. They have no idea what it's going to take to protect America. The Democrats have run away from reality for the Last 30 yrs. From Carter to Clinton and now Obama. They would rather cheat American's out of money for worthless projects than to do what is right to protect our Nation.

Really?
Dr Douglas
Location: OR
Reply # 4
Date: Feb 20, 2009 - 1:36 AM EST Racism

While some people can control the covert racism (unconscious and attitudinal), others lack control and the racism becomes overt (e.g., conscious and behavioral). Studies show that both forms of racism, overt and covert, are stronger in conservatives than liberals.
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You don't say. If my memory serves me correct, it was the Democrats who founded the KKK and even have a former member still in the Senate. Yet, you label Conservatives as racist. I notice, however, you provide no examples. Just the usual empty rhetoric with no basis in reality. Conservatives promote self-support in individuals whereas the Democrats promote a perpetual welfare state. But you label conservatives as the racists. Could it be you're merely projecting your own subconscious beliefs?

Dr. Douglas
No, Ms. Chavez does not underestimate the amount of racism that exist,she just understand where it lives.

As to your comment that you see no reasons not to open up with more discussions related to quility of life and health difference between blacks and whites--I see no reason to have such discussion as long as nobody has the courage to acknowledge the true reasons for the disparity. If members of the black community (such as Bill Cosby or Juan Williams) do they are scouraged as Uncle Toms. If a non-black person does they are labeled as racist.
There will never be productive discussions until that nonsense stops.


Pretty Good for a Coward
Thanks Linda, I have a funny feeling that this is not the honest discussion Mr. Holder had in mind.

I'm not a fan of President Obama, but it was refreshing to hear him touch on some of these same themes in the campaign.

and Native Americans who really had it
bad, still do, but we don't see them whining every day.

Let's talk about race
Stopthepresses shows social responsibility by banning M-word from its site. Read it at, http://stopthepresses2.blogspot.com/search/label/Race

Racism

I have some respect for Chavez, but she underestimates the amount of racism that still exists in this country.

There's been roughly 20 years of research in social psychology dealing with both overt and covert ("implicit") forms of racism. The covert racism occurs at a barely conscious level, and is found in a very large proportion of the population.

While some people can control the covert racism (unconscious and attitudinal), others lack control and the racism becomes overt (e.g., conscious and behavioral). Studies show that both forms of racism, overt and covert, are stronger in conservatives than liberals.

Given the enormous differences in quality of life and health between whites and blacks, I don't see any reasons not to open up more discussions.



Still a racist society
The current hullabaloo over the NY Post cartoon with the white cops shooting the chimp and the link to the Stimulus shows us that Race is still a four letter word in this country.

A lot of folks write about Blacks being obsessed with race and discrimination.

But they don't take the time to read the history of Racism in the good old USA.

Imagine, within our lifetime, many of us can remember the days of the Civil Rights movement.

And, so many years after Slavery was abolished!

From the earliest days ...to the present. Have we forgoten the Native Americans, the African slaves, the Chinese coolies, the Japanese internment and the Latinos?

Electing a "Black" president doesn't automatically erase the underlying racism in our society.

The Truth

I'm so sick of all this crap about Obama and the race shyt he threw at us during the ellection. Oh yes its great we now have the first Black President.............Well the truth is we now have the first MULATTO President.....And Holder also looks mulatto. One of the most racist groups in this country are the blacks. So stop claiming to being black and shut up about the race shyt...............
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