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Are all Leftists "Godless Commies"?
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Thursday, June, 28, 2007 11:52 AM
F1etch
writes:
Couplathings
First yor answers:
Q1: I'd be FAR more likely to vote (R) than I m now.
Q2: I'd be FAR more likely to risk incarceration and death by voting for the (D) party with high velocity projectiles.
No, really.
A couple of things of note. One of the regular TH posters of a libertarian bent (I don't think it was LibertyBob; it might have been TK_libertarian), suggested that laws against murder, et al, were NOT morality based and thus were not a valid justification for using the power of government to impose morality. The distinction made was that laws against infringement upon the rights of others, particularly property rights (murder meets this criterion under the concept of self-ownership) and that laws to impose morality, typically as presented by the Left, violate that simple and more accurate justification by directly infringing uopn property rights (i.e., wealth redistribution).
You continue to take a hard look at the underlying motivations behind the embrace of socialistic ideas (even by those who are ostensibly conservative) while I continue to eplore the practical implications, but we are in complete agreement that the real problem occurs when faith (including in socialism, which is unsupported by real world evidence and thus is properly described as faith) is combined with the power of the state. I'm doing a series that was inspired by an assertion that I served the "god" of Free market Economics and, thus, my arguments could be dismissed as merely faith-based and eventually I expect to get to the objection (expressed by conservatives such as Goshawk here at TH) to "price gouging' that "immorally takes advantage" of hardship. I look forward to what you have to say....
Oh, and pay attention to inkshadow. He's a reformed liberal and one of the brightest guys I've come across. I have the greatest respect for his opinions.
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Thursday, June, 28, 2007 8:31 PM
voice_of_reason
writes:
Fletch, as a fellow-blogger ..
.. can you critique the wording of Question #2 in my post?
I wrote:
Q2) If the (D) party abandoned its current stance on social issues, but strengthened its existing stance on the environment and on re-distributing affluence in America and the world, would you vote (R) or (D)?
I meant that the (D) party continued (and accelerated) its existing approach to the environment and on re-distributive economics.
Did that meaning come across? Or, would most people interpret that to mean that the (D) party IMPROVED (as a conservative would define it) its position on those subjects.
I am looking for some way to post these two questions on a Left-leaning site, but don't have the stomach to stick my toe into those waters! Any suggestions? Do you know any bloggers who are active on both sides of the spectrum?
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Friday, June, 29, 2007 5:38 PM
F1etch
writes:
You did just fine
I didn't find your wording to be confusing but even if it were in a stand-alone sense, its adherence to the form of the other question makes clear what you were asking.
I don't know anyone else who might help. I used to post regularly (for years) on the Yahoo! political forums but they changed the format drastically and killed it. I've actually been looking at the possibility of creating a mirror blog (inky suggested it) to get more opposition response - though animalgirlisback did manage to stop by - but haven't decided if I have the time or not.
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