Bishop guidelines for 'gay' ministry

The oldest religions in the world recognize the point you are making. The whole idea of yin and yang, is that even in the light, there is some dark, and even in the dark there is some light. Each of us has many, many conflicting desires and goals every day. Heaven forbid that I would be labeled a murderer just because at times I may get angry.

The question really isn't as simple as being true to what you feel. It's really being true to what you feel is true.

and I take exception to the the constant accusations from gays that Christians teach hatred of gays. I don't hate them and I don't ever remember another Christian voicing or teaching hatred for gays. If they choose...and I do not believe that they were born that way...to live that lifestyle, then so be it. If they were born that way, it would suggest that a gene exists for their feelings and that takes us to another matter...are pedophiles, rapists, racial bigots, etc. born with a gene that causes their activities? I think you are right on the money when you say they de-humanize themselves and assimilate into their own groups...it is not the Christians doing it.

The only thing that gets me a little ticked is when they begin demanding preferential rights from the government and getting their agenda into schools that teach our children that theirs is a perfectly normal lifestyle.

Victor: As long as "feel" is part of what you put at the center of things, then you still attempt to found the order of the world, which has to do with our relation to others, on something inside of us. So long as you imagine that this is what matters, there is a different "feeling" for each of us - as many "truths" as there are grains of sand. Sand is no foundation.

The question is obvious, and it is only fear, ignorance, cynicism and desperation that prevents it from being asked in sincerity and hope: "what is truth?" The truth, regardless of what you feel, is what really matters.

Otherwise, being "true to what you feel is true" is the same thing as believing that there is no truth, no transcendent order, nothing that binds us to one another (aware of it or not), no whole of which we are partial expressions, no word of God, no God, and no image of God, no "humanity".

This is to assert, against appearances and against our own conscience, that we are only "feelings" and appetites, only animals which feel the urge to maintain the delusion of being more than an animal.