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The Army's handling of Nidal Malik Hasan
22 Comments
Friday, November, 06, 2009 5:07 PM
Bobbie
writes:
So glad to hear it called what it was;
a terrorist attack. The media of course will beat the PTSD drum and the deaf, dumb and blind will buy into it.
Was the Army asleep at the wheel? Oh yeah, they heard about his behavior on multiple occasions and what did they do? Why, they gave him a promotion following a poor performance review. Operating on the Peter Principal? Sure make one feel secure, doesn't it?
Very good post, Pete.
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Friday, November, 06, 2009 5:45 PM
Ray
writes:
I heard on the radio...
...this morning that they were saying there was no evidence that it was a terrorist attack.
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I had to wonder if somehow they had misplaced the dozen or so bodies and if not exactly how many more it takes. I mean is there a specific number like twenty-seven or maybe just nineteen, what number do you reach and then say "terrorist attack"?
Maybe they need a signed piece of paper from Osama himself giving the order, does that make it official?
They act like one person alone cannot be classifieed as a terrorist.
They also want to down play the fact he was a Catholic .....oppps no he wasn't he's a stinking MUSLIM. But that doesn't mean anything, oh no no no, shouldn't be hasty in reading too much into that should we. Could be just an odd coincidence, what exactly it is coincidental on they haven't been able to fabricate.....uh, that is explain.
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Friday, November, 06, 2009 7:09 PM
Patrick Bohan
writes:
It certainly is starting
to look like he was a home grown terrorist and a bad doctor.
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Friday, November, 06, 2009 7:30 PM
Garnet92
writes:
Good one, drpete
And on a subject on which we are in total agreement. I just saw on Fox News (the entertainment network) that an FBI representative has been quoted as saying that "terrorism was not being discussed." If that is so, somebody's head should roll. I also wrote a piece on this tragedy and how it could not be viewed as anything but terrorism.
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Saturday, November, 07, 2009 7:07 AM
AfterShock
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They must support their own
Only in an Obama-nation could a Muslim terror suspect receive a poor performance review and yet get promoted from Captain to Major. Seems a couple suspect folks have made general past several months as well. The nexus seems to be Obama friendly's or Muslim. This is gonna morph into an anti 2nd amendment discussion. Just like the spoon made Rosie-O' fat, the illegal handguns on base made Nidal Malik Hasan kill.
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Saturday, November, 07, 2009 9:08 AM
drpete
writes:
Careful, Bobbie, please don't give the
Pete[r] Principle a bad name.
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Saturday, November, 07, 2009 10:56 AM
drpete
writes:
I'm afraid, Ray, that the entirety of
American society is offended by ANY negative comments about anybody except Republicans, libertarians and conservatives.
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Saturday, November, 07, 2009 10:58 AM
drpete
writes:
Can you imagine, Patrick, what a
session with that psychiatrist must have been like?
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Saturday, November, 07, 2009 1:09 PM
drpete
writes:
Could it be, AfterShock, -- could it
actually be -- that senior officers gave him both the negative performance review and the promotion because it's either up or out, and they saw it as somehow important to have an American-soldier Muslim in the mix in Iraq? Was this an "affirmative action" promotion and assignment?
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Sunday, November, 08, 2009 7:51 AM
AfterShock
writes:
Most certainly drpete
It's all affirmative action. Obama has to show the world, red and yellow black or white, it doesn't matter in his sight, Obama loves the little people of the world.
We can see how much he loves muslims but how 'bout the poor, and the elderly, and the unborn, and America?
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Sunday, November, 08, 2009 7:46 PM
JT
writes:
Islamoterrorist, or
Muslim nut-case?
My PRELIMINARY reaction is that he is a nut case. Hyperreligious people sometimes get that way (or are that way and therefore become hyper-something.
My initial reaction is that most indigenous muslims are saying, " Oh, no!" Now they will blame this guy's action on Allah or on the Muslim faith. My gut says this guy is a nut. Don't blame Allah.
Now, the military's handling of this guy REAKS! You have to be kidding me. Let's suppose that this guy is the functional equivalent of a consciencious objector. Good, let's send the SOB to attack (1) Iraq or (2) Jerusalem or (3) Rome! That ought to teach him! While you're at it, allow him to possess arms and roam the Base! ARE YOU KIDDING ME? HE'S A NUT!
Question: Are NUTS an approved minority?
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Monday, November, 09, 2009 5:48 AM
Mrs. AL (Always Learning)
writes:
What is sad ...
is that people are not studied relative to Islam. Those who have done their best to read and objectively analyze things know what is going on all around us.
In addition to the handling of Hasan, what I want to know is why the heck no one in the ARMY shot him and it took a "civilian cop" to do the job. They were on an ARMY BASE for crying out loud. Are the police now the "standing army" that is prohibited on U.S. soil? Questions, questions, questions.
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Monday, November, 09, 2009 8:32 AM
Gray Ghost
writes:
drpete: Don't Blame Army Brass Too Much
because it now appears that the Muslim Major was one of the administration's own:
http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/2009/11/pregnant-soldi er-shot-dead-by-fort-hood-killer-screaming-allahu-akbar/
If this article is true, and if the news of it get widely circulated, then the 2010 midterm elections become a foregone Conservative Major victory.
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Monday, November, 09, 2009 10:22 AM
drpete
writes:
Thanks for the link, Gray Ghost, and the
caution as well. I was aware of the Major's panel position, that despite his paucity of credentials. It's also been reported by intelligence officials that Hasan had been trying to communicate electronically with Al Qaeda for some months. It is unclear to me whether those in intelligence shared any of that info with the Army.
Certainly, Hasan's Muslim radicalism was evident for years in and around Bethesda, there for senior officers to see.
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Monday, November, 09, 2009 10:31 AM
drpete
writes:
If one is, as you say JT, an
"Islamoterrorist", isn't one also a "nut job"? Wait, I see. At issue is motive.
We can reasonably infer from Hasan's pre-shooting behavior that he expected to die and that he planned to kill a lotta people. What we don't know is whether his goal was (a) to kill a room full of infidels or (b)to generate terror by killing a room full of infidels. If the former, he is an Islamokiller, the latter an Islamoterrorist.
Okay. Good point.
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Monday, November, 09, 2009 10:39 AM
JT
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Attendance at a conference does not make
one a presidential advisor!
He attended (apparently) several conference sponsored by the homeland security community as a member of the audience, not as an active participant, much less as a chosen advisor.
While in 1st grade, one close to me was chosen as a participant in the annual nativity play at school (back when those were allowed). His designated role was - you guessed it - a audience.
It should be noted that, in that role, he did not get to talk personally with the "guest of honor."
Incidentally, I contend that the one to whom I refer is also a bit of a nut case.
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Monday, November, 09, 2009 3:54 PM
drpete
writes:
It seems, Mrs. AL (Always Learning) that
since 1878 and the posse comitatus act, the U.S. military is prohibited under most circumstances from being used for law enforcement activities.
The good news is that some, say, POTUS (just a random and completely-fictional example) couldn't use the Mar,ines to herd a Tea Party Rally. The bad news is that soldiers on U.S. soil are prohibited from carrying arms (except for scheduled training) on military bases.
Since, I think, every college or university and every k-12 government school (all staffed by liberal bed wetters) prohibits weapons on campus, we get VaTech, Columbine, and now Ft. Hood.
And those same bed wetters will come out shortly to blame Ft. Hood on a lack of gun control, when if on base those soldiers had the same right-to-carry rights as we have off-base, Major Hasan might have only shot a couple before going toes up . . . or have thought the better of trying.
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Monday, November, 09, 2009 5:11 PM
drpete
writes:
As facts trickle out and the Hasan his-
tory emerges, I am becoming ever-more convinced that Army brass are to blame for placing the "alleged" perpetrator in position to terrorize Fort Hood.
I welcome new insight from Gray Ghost, et al.
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Tuesday, November, 10, 2009 8:16 AM
Mrs. AL (Always Learning)
writes:
Gun Control
Different definition from a not so bright person ... there WAS gun control. They were locked away. That's why this thing happened.
Thanx for the feed-back on my comments. Thoughtful and thorough as always.
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Tuesday, November, 10, 2009 10:58 AM
BrianR
writes:
Yeah...
The Army has fallen victim to PC-hood. They can no longer, evidently, separate someone "for the good of the service" when they clearly act in a manner that is "counter to good order and discipline" simply because that person's spouting radical Islamic dogma.
Back when I was in, if someone had been running around spouting pro-VC rhetoric he'd have been cashiered in about 2 seconds flat, if not court-martialed.
Apparently, no longer.
I heard the pro-Islamic groups rationalizing that the guy's rampage was due to being in the Army, and not his religion, since he was in the Army longer than he was a radical Muslim.
I couldn't help but think, "Hey! The guy was running around shouting 'Allahu akbar!' while he was shooting people, not 'Be all that you can be'".
The idiocy piles up so fast you need wings to stay above it.
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Tuesday, November, 10, 2009 12:37 PM
drpete
writes:
More news on Nidal Malik Hasan:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,573547,00.html
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/6712102.ht ml
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/10/us/10inquire.html?_r=1
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/fort-hood-shooter-contact-al- qaeda-terrorists-officials/story?id=9030873
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Wednesday, November, 11, 2009 8:10 AM
drpete
writes:
Jonah Goldberg weighs in on
Hasan.
http://townhall.com/columnists/JonahGoldberg/2009/11/10/unc onnected_dots
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