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Comment on: Peppermints Place

Islam Is a BIG Problem

140 Comments

Yo Pepp, Brian

Where is the outrage from NOW and the other Feminazis? Thanks for exposing the evil that we are fighting against.

What happened

Okay, how did Willi beat Jimmy C.

Peppermint, they are the worst offenders. Now does it mean everyone of them is a great ofender of human rights? We'll hear it, won't we? I am tired of hearing about this fudgy middle of so-called moderates.(who seem awfully silent at times) To this brad-brush, err, I meant broad-brush charaterization about not all are yada...yada: not all Germans were complicitin it either. Didn't have to be.

WilliBeax

Yep, lots of ugly stuff I could put up here. I just barely touched the surface with this subject.

xpressit

That's right. Not all Germans committed atrocities but there were plenty complicit. For example the concentration camps were emitting horrible smells that the townspeople just ignored. They "knew" something awful was going on, but refused to speak up.

This Muslim silence is no different. They commit atrocities against their own and who speaks up. Just a few very brave people like Irshad Manji for one. And, oddly enough it seems that the ones who do speak up are women. Maybe because they are the ones being the most offended against. I don't know.

I do know I'm sick of them (Muslims) screaming about our so called atrocities. There is no comparison.

Pepp

That's right...oooh that smell. They don't see the difference ...... poor _?_, next in line to themselves to be victims, except they'll call their own martyrs. Big difference.

Problemo

Hey, Pepp, its a big problem -- what's the solution? They're so good to tell us the solution to our "problem", even making fatwas over it. They never get around to what's the solution to them?

Islamofascists hate Hindus, they hate Budhists, they hate Jews, and hate Christians… everyone but themselves.

Somehow we are the bigots or hatters if we point it out. Their fearless UBL has been praising Martyrdom for years. Funny how that is -- a little hypocrisy there?

Ther you go

making a post after my bedtime.

I believe we are at war with radical Islam. And I further believe that 60-80% of Islam is, or would willingly become, radical.

I'm not saying that so large a percentage has radicalism in their blood. But they would stand by - just as the Germans did - and allow atrocities to be done in their name. Whether it is due to fear or indifference, I don't know. But I do know, the "good" Germans didn't show up until adter the war - that would be the "big" war, of course - and until the "good" Muslims show up, we're going to be in for a nasty ride.

And until many more Americans - many more than is the current number - realize this is a long term problem, it ain't gonna go away.

The American indifference and the "good" Muslim indifference are about on the same level. That has to change on both sides.

xpressit

From the stories I've read and the documentaries I've seen about the concentration camps, I often wondered what those Germans thought they were seeing when it was "raining ashes". Kind of blows the mind.

If the Muslims would take all that energy and hatred they have for us and do something constructive with it they could perhaps develop some kind of good life for themselves. But, no they are only interested in destruction.

Oh,no one dare not point anything out to the radical Muslims. No one is allowed to speak the truth that's for sure. Death to those who speak. Irshad gets her life threatened all the time.

I find it pretty tiresome myself to have to walk on eggshells about them and their brutality all the time. And, our pols don't help. Actually none of the world leaders are too outspoken about any of this. Silence is deafening.

And the International Red Cross and those other "human rights groups" where are they? They are quick to condemn us for any accusation that gets thrown our way, but silent about these Muslim atrocities. What is their problem?

Pepp

We will know we are really in trouble when our
government tells us that muslims are coming to
America to do jobs Americans won't do.

Charles

"The American indifference and the "good" Muslim indifference are about on the same level. That has to change on both sides."

This is a very good point you make. Indifference. Yes there is not much interest in pointing out these things. In fact, we keep giving in to their demands.
Did you know there is a school in San Diego now that allows an imam to come in during the Muslims call to prayers and the kids go these in a closed area? Can you imagine? Our own kids aren't allowed to say a prayer in public schools or mention the name God, but the Muslims are getting these special privileges. What the heck is up with that nonsense?

Whatever these Muslims want we give it to them. And, no ACLU is there fighting to keep "prayer" out of the school like they do with other religions. Everyone gives the Muslims a pass because they bully everyone and make demands that no one else does. I suppose if they were told no, they can't have these "special" prayer times, they'd just blow the school up. It's just utterly mind boggling.

1930's Germans

People in later decades said, how could they let that happen? This is how. Refusing to stand up and say what's right, no matter what. And the Enemedia won't help either, it needs be said and explained out loud, just like this. Good job Pepp.

pineknot

Oh, that's a good one. I'm sure we'll hear that next. Yeah, the Muslims are coming here to do jobs Americans won't do all right, like blow us all up.

davecat

Thanks so much. You're right, of course. We need to take a stand on this as much as we did on illegal immigration. We cannot remain quiet and act like these things aren't happening.

The Muslims can't take any responsibility for themselves. No matter what atrocity they commit they blame someone else for it.

in the beginning

of Islam....

Mohammed needed to raise a fanatical army. The best way to do so was to create a religion. He disigned a religion to appeal to uneducated arab men. The religion had to drive men to fanatic behavior. Mission accomplished.

Crawfish

Mission accomplished but as we've learned it not only attracts uneducated men, but those also highly educated. Mission is more than accomplished.

"Honor killings", anyone?

What a concept: slaughter your own daughter like a Thanksgiving turkey because she somehow violated your own concept of "family honor".

THERE'S the Muslim "mind" at work.

Unless and until the so-called "moderate" Muslims step up loudly and publicly to condemn the actions of the fanatics, I've reached the conclusion that the entire religion and all who practice it are the problem. I say this as one with extended family members who are Muslims. Until they demand that proselytization of violence stop in the madrassais and the mosques, they are ALSO part of the problem.

They need to take aggressive steps to put an end to this nonsense before someone else does it for them; and that sure won't be pretty if it happens.

The Constitution is not a suicide pact.

so

what's the solution, gang?

A global war on Islam?

Brad

Very well may be exactly that.

Anyway, it's already taking place. We're not the only ones who get to make that decision; the other side has a vote, too.

I don't think there

is or can be THE solution. It's going to be a long series of solutions. I'd say that killing & burying the whole 'PC' notion would be a good first, second AND third step.

It's, at times, almost comical, the hoops and blatheration some folks endure to appear 'nice'. That is also something the muslim nuts know all to well, and play to their greatest advantage. So either some people are so naive that they don't see that they are being played, or else they place appearing 'nice' a higher priority that preventing another attack or incident. I'm fairly certain that those very same schools in Pepp's article have whole lectures on how to be offended, and to play the gullibility of the PC crowd & the infidel court system.

We may go down in flames, but we'll look nice all the way down.

Oh my. What Willi posted

is a perfect example. The 'principles' of orgs like NOW fall a distant second to the desire to not offend the very people that those 'principles' are supposed to oppose. Were it not serious, it'd make a good sitcom. thx willi

BrianR

"slaughtering your own daughter..." what a concept. Who can understand this? How could anyone murder their own daughter for marrying an infidel? It's too far out of the realm of understanding for most people. At least I cannot get it. The Muslim mindset is in some unbelievable primitive area that I don't think anyone gets.

Brad and JDawg

We're already in a "global" war on Islam. It's not a global war on terrorism, but on Islam itself. If we stopped being so PC as JDawg stated, we would face reality more. This is a religion, a set of beliefs that all infidels and Jews must be converted or eliminated. Read the Koran. Read Sharia Law. Find out for yourself what it says.

Do you see what they do to their own?

JDawg, so right, cut the PC BS!! We have to start calling exactly what it is. This religious war with Islam has been going on for centuries. This is just a continuation of that war which was dormant for awhile.

WilliBeax

Like JDawg says you sure do state the obvious. NOW doesn't care for any women other than promoting their abortion agenda. When was the last time anyone heard this org. stand up for any woman in real trouble? Probably never. They cater only to the elite and abortion mongers. Disgusting org. and they should be dispelled. They serve no one including women who "want" abortions by not giving these women other options other than one.

NOW would never want to offend Islam. They don't give a hoot.

Bradforreal

Brad "so
what's the solution, gang?"

You're so good with the advice, tell us what is the solution? Better yet,if its one sided it won't work. Gang? Who did you think your talking to the Talliban?

xpressit

Brad's solution is to "talk" to them. LOL! How do you talk to people who want to chop your head off?

Brad's solution has always been the "moderates" are speaking up. Irshad's latest article dispels this so called "solution" since the moderates are not speaking up even when it comes to their own being killed for no good reason.

We won't hear much from Brad about this again.

I'm with J-Dawg..

..on this...this insane "pc" culture has clouded the minds of many, therefore they no longer make judgements on other people.

We are losing the difference between Right and wrong, Good and evil.

Pepp

Do you remember the poster over on TH column who is living in the ME...there was a discussion about the non-radical muslims standing up and speaking out...I think ihis screen name started with an I. Anyway, I said I knew plenty of "normal" religious Muslims and how they would tell me they are afraid to speak out againsthe radicals because of fear. He concurred, and as he is living there, would not divulge anything...except to say that he too, was afraid for his life...go figure, and I don't have a better solution than to kick them all out, inter, inter, and no more student visas.

JimmyCarter

Good comment. We have lost the ability to decipher good from evil. That's a HUGE problem we have going on here in the States. People are afraid to judge anyone's behavior no matter how bad it is. Excuses are made all the time.

Nee

What can I say to that? Fear is their excuse? If everyone ran around fearing the bully, we'd all be in Islamic hands. That's what will happen if these people don't start doing something.

I agree with you. Why we let any of these Muslims in here after 9/11 is a mystery to me. We should not allow any of them to come here at all and get the ones here out. Deport every last one of them. They don't have to be afraid to speak up here as yet. There is no excuse.

How about a big global hug

That always works. Seriously though, it would help those who think terrorism is just a nuisance if they could just ponder what it means that they outnumber us already globably and are migrating in large numbers into our own countries reproducing at a rate of at least three times ours. There is no point discussing opinions without at least addressing the big facts and the biggest fact of all is Americans represent less than 5% of the world's population which is much less than the dark ages Islamofascists.

BTW, new post. I've been very distracted the past two weeks and may be for a while yet.

Pepp & Jimmy

Great comment J/C aout PC cult. Someone should send Muslims a translator for it cause it does zero good.

PPhil

Another good point. We better start reproducing faster and more often. I'm all for that. We can let the Mexicans take over on that issue.

I'll check out your new post.

xpressit

Yeah, that's the ticket! A translator who understands primitive sociopath language?

It's obvious our ethics and the way we view life between us and the Islamic killers are so far apart who could figure it out.

Maybe our notorious and dastardly Jimmy Cartuh could come up with something. Or maybe huckster, scam artist Jesse Jackson could go talk to them.

War on Islam????

Brad asks if we should declare war on Islam. Well, since Islam declared war on everybody else 1300 years ago.......

Crawfish

Does anyone else besides me think Brad is a Muslim?

Pepp

I'm not Muslim. But even if I was, so what?

Perhaps if I were Muslim--or, worse yet (from your perspective), Mexican--you could help deport me.

Your attitude is exactly the attitude Osama and his thugs want you to have. They want to polarize east and West and make reasonable solutions impossible. After all, moderate Muslims are the number one victims of terrorism, but also the number one target of your vitriol and ignorance here.





And just how

many of "these Muslims" did we "let in here after 9/11" Pepp? I'm curious.

And I guess I must have missed the terrorist attacks these recent Muslim immigrants caused.

Was it only on Fox?

Pepp

I see the Left here is using it's usual tactic of changing to argument to fit it's needs. You never suggested deporting Muslims, you called for them to speak out against radical Islamics, who are killing and torturing in the name of God. That's something the Democrats and Liberals are refusing to do.

Bradfrod

You use a strong word, "vitriol" describing how I view Muslims. The way I describe it is irresponsible to say the least. Not speaking up over their atrocities against their own is unforgivable. Do you think that is the right thing to do? To not even condemn the slaughter of their own women? Do you think that is great?

NO I have not seen a terrorist attack on Fox, but eventually we will just as Britain has. We are coddling the ones who are here, giving them special rights and privileges. How long do you think it will be before they realize they have us cowered enough to pull off an inside job? We have CAIR don't forget. That wonderful Muslim org. who preaches hate of infidels everywhere it goes.

And, as far as Osama goes polarizing us and us falling into it, you've got to be kidding. Reasonable solution? I see you didn't answer xpressit's question to you as to what your solution would be.

To Bradford

H*ll! If it were up to me I'd deport you in a heart beat! Just on general principles! It doesn't matter if your American, Mexican, Chinese, Muslim, Christian or Hindu! It's your screwed-up Liberal mind that is the danger! It is people like you and the thousands that follow the Liberal mind-set, that are the "Enemy Within!" In fact you Liberals are just as dangerous as the terrorist themselves!
In that you fail to acknowledge the extreme cruelty of these Islamic Barbarians!

Your pacifying PC outlook to life is like an immature little child that doesn't understand the dangerous surrounding them.

You ignore all facts before you. You see this Barbaric Cult purposely raise their children from birth to be suicide bombers. And without hesitant ion, murder members of their own family if they obey Islamic law. And what do you say..."Duh..dere not all like dat!"

What is truly a shame is the Islamic terrorist are far more intelligent than you Liberal morons! They use your PC BS against you to gain special privilege and access through security and even into our government! Infiltrating at every vital point! And what do you say.."Duh..dey don't mean no harm."

By the way Bradford. PEPPERMINT has more intelligence in her little finger than you will ever have in a lifetime!

Oops

Should read: If they Don't obey Islamic law.

Brad factoring

"After all, moderate Muslims are the number one victims of terrorism, but also the number one target of your vitriol and ignorance here."


I get it, We are victimizing them. (or revictimizing them....err sumptin')The complacent and quiet "moderates" add little to the "problem", I take it.

Goshawk

Yea, deport bleeding heart liberals, too, that's a thought. They like that no borders, international court stuff anyways. It should be easy to develope a test for the condition.

davecat

Of course the left uses all of its' most vacant thoughts on this subject. Deep thinking about the situation we are in with the Islamic global war is beyond their reach.

Goshawk

I really like your post to Bradford. Straight up and telling it just as it is!

Deporting liberals is one of my fantasies too, among others. :-)

Thanks for the compliment.

xpressit

Yeah, just how are "we victimizing" them? Brad sure has some twisted thinking.

Bradford

Here's another suggestion for you.

Look at that picture I posted. In the background are the women covered from head to toe. It's hot but they must wear that garb. How do they even breathe?
Their faces are covered, as if it is too shameful to even have a face! They appear cowering.

Then, look at the foreground with those little girls. Look at their faces. What do you see? Even the babies look wretched.

You say to me:
"After all, moderate Muslims are the number one victims of terrorism, but also the number one target of your vitriol and ignorance here. "

If that's true, then I suppose that Irshad Manji falls into that category with me since she must be ignorant too calling for the moderate Muslims to speak up. She is a Muslim.

xpressit

Yeah! Send them all to the Middle East where they can practice their Liberal/Socialism on the Muslims. I mean the moonbats defend the Islamic butchers so often against America,they should be welcomed with open arms! Right?

We'd have to devise a stealthy test though. If they thought for one minute if they were being tested to find out if they were Liberals. They would lie through their teeth! They would all suddenly become conservative! LOL!

Goshawk, xpressit

Thanks a whole bunch. We already have enough liberal moonbats over here as it is. Amnesty International and a few other bleeding heart 'The muslims are so misunderstood' groups, not to mention our very own Olmert and now Peres to keep aplogizing for things we never did and to coddle the so called palestinians. Maybe we could send them someplace else? Not that I can think of a place that truly deserves the havoc they will wreak.

Purplegimp

I'm sure no one would send our resident moonbats to Israel. A lot of help they would be there. They would only kiss the butts of the hizzies and the hamas muzzies. Liberals are muzzie butt kissers loving them because they are so "misunderstood". Jimmah Cartah could be their liberal leader and he would form the Palestinian state he so wants. So, no that is not an option.

Siberia might be a good place. I wonder if the old gulags are still standing. I believe they might be. That could be on option. I'm sure Putin would welcome them with open arms.

Iran would be another option. They think they can talk to Ahmednut so that might work. Then Ahmednut can put them into a political prison for the rest of their lives and give them good suits to wear as he did the British sailors. They could find out how their free speech would truly be gone forever.

Or maybe Pakistan would be another good option. The liberal women could wear burkas and have to keep their mouths shut, like Rosie and Susan Sarandon. The liberal men could get to have their harems as they like to do anyway and stone the ones who offend them. I'm sure the moonbats would fall right into the Islamic ways especially as they would have no choice other than to have their moronic heads chopped off. What a delight to see that. Sean Penn's head stuck on a stick in Islamabad.

The liberals would get to see the world as it is, not just some fantasy world in which they live. A dose of reality would do them good. No free speech, no porn, no unnatural sex, or any other liberal concoction.

And, our country would be free of vermin. I can only say hallelujah, allah ahkbar. God is great. To relieve us of our inner enemies for good.

Pelosi of course would go to Syria where she believes she has flirted enough with Assad to have a good life in his harem. Ha, ha. She looks so good in those scarves and her Armani suits. Perhaps she could run the country and launch an attack on us from there. Only Assad wouldn't allow her to open her vacuous mouth any further, surprise, surprise, RedNanny, no free speech for you either.

Reid could go to Iraq where he is an expert in his own mind on warfare. He could lead General Petraeus into ignominious defeat since that is his dream of the century.

Oh, I could go on and on, but what the hey. As long as the liberals are all shipped out to some of the best countries named above I could be well satisfied.

Peppermint

I always get a little worried when talk about the ME starts. Israel is one of the major bones of contention in the ME.You forgot Saudi Arabia! There's another nice liberal muzzie country, and I bet Lybia would take a few too.

Purplegimp

Good ones. And the Sudan could be a nice place for them. Or the tribal area between Pakistan and Afghanistan might be a good learning place for libs.
Let them find out how good they have it here and maybe they'll stop trashing our country. Too bad though,once they're out, they can't get back in. Who could trust them not to have joined the jihad. LOL

Purpleqimp

My apologies for not specifically mentioning. Israel would be off-limits to the Lib blindbats! Peppermints suggestions along with yours are excellent places to send them. We can expect them to bow down and join the jihad after several have had their heads removed. Besides, it would not be much of a change for them. They've been carrying on their own Liberal war with America for decades.

Two other places we might send them is the North and South Poles. Being that the world is burning up. They should appreciate the 100 deg below zero temps. As an added bonus, they could listen to their God Al Bore preach to them 24/7 about Globull Warming.

I suggest

we send the libs, ten at a time, to an NRA convention. Survivors could then be passed on to the wilds of Utah, Wyoming and Idaho, where their views would atrophy.

Talking

Time comes when you let your sidearm do your talking.

Pepp

'Islam HAS a big problem' would be a more accurate title for your piece than 'Islam IS a big problem.'

It's

amazing isn't it, the hostility and rage I seem to inspire in some of you just because I have a different opinion. Because we disagree, you fantasize about having me deported (where to? I was born here; maybe one of Bush's 'black' rendition sites in Poland?) and berate me for being a "moron."

I respect Pepp; I may disagree with her, but I would never call her stupid. Why some of you act like 10-year olds is beyond me.

Why am I a "moron" Goshawk?

Oh, and Dave? You write: "You never suggested deporting Muslims" Pepp wrote "Deport every last one of them." Reading comprehension 101.

Yo Pepp

Do go on and on. I'm enjoying every minute of it.

Brad; the art of being

Bradford - Islam has a problem?? Sometimes I wonder if you are for real, or one of the trolls out there who posit their victimhood in all - offenses.

...forest for the trees.

Bradford please meet the Forest (Islam as an obstacle to the survival of the Western world).

Forest (Islam as an obstacle to the survival of the Western world) please meet Bradford.

Now that the introductions are out of the way. How can anyone, of any stripe, not view Islam as the second greatest religion to attempt to destroy the Western world. Of course Brad you may recognize the GREATEST religion of hate towards the West as Communism/Socialism (read also as democRAT party).

Charles Mudgeon

Re: your suggestion.
Good idea! Never thought of that. And fits perfectly with BrianR's comment!

Goshawk and Charles

Yes, but I don't know if we could ever trust them to guard the border.

Purplegimp

Hmmm, Amnesty international? Who ise= in charge of the extinct and dysfunctional organization list?

solutions

I got a better idea, the Mullahs and Israel could probably agree "no amnesty to Liberals". UK, you're on your own with this one....

Bradford

You asked, "why am I a moron." If it's any comfort to you, your not alone. That term applies to all people lacking the ability to make intelligent judgment. In addition, lacking the ability critically analyze your own thinking.

You don't inspire hostility and rage because "You have a different opinion." You and others of your ilk inspire anger because you aid and defend the enemy and are to stupid to know it!

Hey, guys

My usual shameless plug, for my new essay, up now!


Thanks for the ad space, Pepp. Your check's in the mail, along with the Doritos.

Oh

give me a break.

"You and others of your ilk inspire anger because you aid and defend the enemy and are to stupid to know it!"

How, exactly, do I manage that? By simply pointing out that there are moderate Muslims?


Goshawk

"In addition, lacking the ability critically analyze your own thinking."

Says you? Heh.

Psalm23

"the GREATEST religion of hate towards the West as Communism/Socialism (read also as democRAT party)"

Do you even know what you're talking about? You know, it must be scary living in your cartoon world full of paranoid plots and evil, nefarious enemies. But then again, your handle gives your binary thinking away.

xpressit

"Islam has a problem?? Sometimes I wonder if you are for real"

Funny, I wonder the same about you.

Brad

Why stop there, I'd love to hear about Muslim victimization.

Bradford1

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Yo Psalm 23

What do your post mean? Ah jist doan't git it.

Brad

What do you doubt Brad? I like to listen even to what I don't like, there might be a story I haven't heard. If you want to say the Muslims are victims, so why not just say it?

xpressit

yes, 85 more Muslim victims today in Iraq, killed by terrorists in Bush's failed Iraq. let's see, that's about 13,800 fresh Muslim victims this year.

The following is from a 2004 article by Daniel Pipes. I'm sure you've heard of him.

"Anti-Islamist Muslims have found their voice since September 11. Their numbers include distinguished academics such as Azar Nafisi (Johns Hopkins), Ahmed al-Rahim (formerly of Harvard), Kemal Silay (Indiana), and Bassam Tibi (Göttingen). Important Islamic figures like Ahmed Subhy Mansour and Muhammad Hisham Kabbani are speaking out.

Organizations are coming into existence. The American Islamic Forum for Democracy, headed by Zuhdi Jasser, is active in Phoenix, Arizona. The Free Muslim Coalition Against Terrorism appears to be genuinely anti-Islamist, despite my initial doubts about its founder, Kamal Nawash.

Internationally, an important petition posted a month ago by a group of liberal Arabs calls for a treaty banning religious incitement to violence and specifically names "sheikhs of death" (such as Yusuf Al-Qaradawi of Al-Jazeera television), demanding that they be tried before an international court. Over 2,500 Muslim intellectuals from 23 countries rapidly signed this petition.

With time, individual Muslims are finding their voice to condemn Islamist connections to terrorism. Perhaps most outstanding is an article by Abdel Rahman al-Rashed, a Saudi journalist in London: "It is a certain fact that not all Muslims are terrorists," he writes, "but it is equally certain, and exceptionally painful, that almost all terrorists are Muslims. … We cannot clear our names unless we own up to the shameful fact that terrorism has become an Islamic enterprise; an almost exclusive monopoly, implemented by Muslim men and women."

Other analysts have followed al-Rashed's example. Osama El-Ghazali Harb writes from Egypt that "Muslim and Arab intellectuals and opinion leaders must confront and oppose any attempt to excuse the barbaric acts of these [terrorist] groups on the grounds of the suffering endured by Muslims." From Virginia, Anouar Boukhars holds that "Terrorism is a Muslim problem, and refusal to admit so is indeed troubling.""

Wili Beax

That is a comentary on Bradford1's eariler post that my logic is binary.

What a laugh to

come home to. You guys have been busy. Love all the comments.

Brad

"Over 2,500 Muslim intellectuals from 23 countries rapidly signed this petition."

2500 worldwide is …. impressive, considering about 1 billion Muslims in the world. Why that is a large great moderate Muslim voice. Most of us gage it by the number in the street like protests or something, you know.

yeah

2,500 is not a lot, is it? But it's a start. But those moderate voices are there, even though some of you would rather pretend otherwise.

"Most of us gage it by the number in the street like protests or something, you know."

Well, maybe you need to gauge the existence of moderate Muslims some other way. Maybe like those Nixonian 'silent majorities' in the 1970s, street theater just isn't their thing?

bradford

street theater isn't there thing? I guess Internet theater showing heads being severed is their "thing". The Muslims sure don't mind that kind of theater.

2500 is not much when you consider how many Muslims are on this earth. Sure, it's a start, but where are they issuing those "fatwas" to their brethren to stop this violence?

Meeting up and saying a few things here and there won't get it.

Brad

“But those moderate voices are there, even though some of you would rather pretend otherwise.”

Seeing is believing; you know, that’s what skeptics say. Maybe it just lacks leadership like a Jesse , Al Sharpie, Farrakhan, or Ellison.

On the other hand, maybe the support or leadership for it just isn’t there, for whatever reason.

xpressit

Now there's a really good point. How about that Ellison fellow? Why doesn't he jump up and start something? He's now a big gubmint honcho who could whip those moderates into shape. From what I read he was a pretty good rebel rouser for the Muslims prior to being in the gubmint. But, nary a word outta his mouth about this. Interesting.

oh dear

Peppermint, "Chiller Theatre" anyone?

Peppermint,

I think Ellison has other concerns in mind.

This is what Ellison, a Muslim convert, said to a meeting of atheists more than a week ago:

"9/11 is the juggernaut in American history and it allows... it's almost like, you know, the Reichstag fire. After the Reichstag was burned, they blamed the Communists for it, and it put the leader of that country [Hitler] in a position where he could basically have authority to do whatever he wanted."

One Muslim moderate to the fray...

xpressit

Oh good grief! You know I had heard some snippet but never got the full report of what Ellison had said.
He sounds really great. Another denier. These Muslims cannot accept responsibility for their actions. That's a big problem. Someone else is always to blame.

inter-theatre

Hey, Pepp, that internet street theatre really lends credibility to their torture claims at us. When a Muslim does it, its not torture.

It also reminds me of Islam and politics. The national-political voice in Fattah party. We see what the radicals did to that voice, off the roof with them - not rad-enough. Demonstrations of moderation. More non-existent examples of moderation to guide us.

"It's a start", Brad?

You were referring to the 2500 Muslim petition signers.

I prefer to think of it as the 85 new dead guys today in Iraq.

Now THAT'S a start!

Peppermint

The way the government deals with this is to give them free passes into the US, homes better than what most of us will ever have and free money. What's there to complain about? They come here, invite their families..friends...their friends and then what do you know? A whole new islambic country. They got out...screw the rest. These are the stories the gubment, red cross and others want us to hear. Not about how little 12 year old girls are raped by a council because her brother smiled at someone. Not about how some woman was stoned to death because her hubby got tired of her or she had too many daughters. No, this won't do. Unfortunately until these people speak up, start protesting, earning their rights like so many before them nothing will be done. They will become a shadow in the night because it will be too lae.

Where are the feministas?

And if everthing RB mentioned isn't enough, female circumscision is still done on a wide scale basis, but who bothers to mention that?

To Bradford and all...

ROFLMAF! Everyone, this is sad. Can you believe this!? You talk about persistent stupidity! (Another way of saying Stuck on Stupid.)

In response to my comment about Libs being Morons. Bradford asks "Goshawk, why am I a Moron?" I almost fell out of the chair laughing! It reminded me of the old joke when the kid asks his mother. "Duh..Mommy, why am I a moron?" (for those of you that are to young and may not have heard the joke I will be happy to post it.) Anyway, I explain, in no uncertain terms. (must read my previous comment.)

He then proceeds to demonstrate his Moronic view of life by saying.

"Oh, give me a break!
Quoting me:... "You and others of your ilk inspire anger because you aid and defend the enemy and are to stupid to know it!"

How, exactly, do I manage that? By simply pointing out that there are moderate Muslims? He then adds...Goshawk..(Again quoting me) "In addition, lacking the ability to critically analyze your own thinking." He responds...Says you? Heh.

Can you have a more perfect display of moronic thinking!?

To Bradford

Allow me an attempt to explain the facts of life in the simplest terms I can think of.

First, Your every thought and every post. Revolves around one theme. Which is...All Muslims should not be looked upon as bad because of a few. Well duh! We all know that!

Let me give you a hypothetical situation. (if you don't understand the word hypothetical, look it up in a dictionary.)

Lets say you belong to a group of 100 people. This group's sole purpose is to make life good for all. Now, within that group, you discover that there are 10 of your group that go against what you believe in and stand for. These "10" using your groups name play all the destructive games they can think of. And could care less what the group thinks! What do you and the group do about it??....Well Brad??..

I'll answer for you the way any sane person would answer. The 90 people in the group would easily overcome the 10 bad guys and send them running.

So the questions becomes, Why aren't 90% of the Muslims outing the 10% bad guys? I await your learned answer Brad! And I don't want to hear that 90 people are scared to death of 10!

Hey Pepp

In my "it ain't J'miraquai" blog, I wrote about Islamberg...can't remember if you've seen it(without my computer or access to my Blog,as you see my name is not underlined). But this same guy has said that there are already nuclear devices in place INSIDE the US...nothing but a picnic has happened in regard to the law and Islamberg, and Chertoff must be politically playing down the impending doom. (ie-he was made fun of for saying he had a gut feeling.)
This Paul L. Williams guy was a former FBI consultant and, frankly it has scared us enough to pull our 401k from stocks to something completely safe for several months, to be protected. Martin (my husband)was saying that they would plan to attack in the summer due to the "surge" end, or pull-out. Just google "chertoff terror" and a few articles with links will pop up. Wonder what Ostrich boy will say to this?

Purplegimp

Re:"Where are the feministas?"

Do we really care? The so-called "Feminists" are a bunch useless, self-serving egotistical human beings that are incapable of contributing anything substantial to society. They are just frustrated female children that get in the way of REAL WOMEN such as you and Peppermint and other real women that post on TH.

BrianR

Here's a snippet from coverage of the 85 dead yesterday.

"As thousands of US troops swooped on a suspected al-Qaeda safe haven used to reinforce militants in the south of Baghdad, the explosion from the suicide truck bombing scattered bodies across the crowded market. Dozens of cars caught fire, while passengers trapped on a bus burnt to death, a Reuters cameraman said."


Meanwhile, BrianR says "I prefer to think of it as the 85 new dead guys today in Iraq. Now THAT'S a start!"

Gotta love that culture of life y'all seem proud of.

Goshawk


"Do we really care? The so-called "Feminists" are a bunch useless, self-serving egotistical human beings that are incapable of contributing anything substantial to society. They are just frustrated female children that get in the way of REAL WOMEN such as you and Peppermint and other real women that post on TH."

Here we go again. The platitudes. The stereotypes. But with an added dose of sycophancy and bootlicking.

Interesting

Bob Novak on Hugh Hewitt, yesterday.

Hewitt: “The political dialogue, public and private, becomes more rancorous. The dissenters, particularly the Negro, poor and the war protesters turn to direct action, and most uncivil disobedience. What this adds up to is nothing less than a rejection of conventional forms of political action.” It goes on. Do you see the same thing playing out again now, Robert Novak?

Novak: I hate to say it, but I think the hatred toward George W. Bush is just mad. I listen to, sometimes in the car radio, on talk shows, and the venom that comes out of the mouths of some of these women, particularly, I’m not trying to be sexist, but they’re so vicious toward him. And I don’t think that really contributes. And also, the bloggers, I don’t read the bloggers very much, but it is really, it’s really vicious.

So, Gos, I guess you and Novak are in agreement. It's all the fault of those shrill wymyn.

Bradford

Don't you think you are kind of redundant with your comments to Goshawk? Read definitions of your words to him:

A sycophant is a servile self-seeking flatterer

obsequious is one marked by or exhibiting a fawning attentiveness; Implies fawning or sycophantic compliance and exaggerated deference of manner such as waiters who are obsequious in the presence of celebrities; Showing or characterized by extreme compliance or abject obedience.

bootlicker: to try to gain favor with through a servile or obsequious manner; to act obsequiously

So, I take it you are saying Goshawk is a self serving flatterer who fawns and is compliant with
whom?

Abjectly obedient? To whom?

Fawning compliance and exaggerated deference of manner to whom?

Just what the hey are you talking about?

LOL!.. Bradford,

Your beginning to make my day! Your every post gets more and more humorous! But in the meantime, will you please answer my question I posted to you @ "Tuesday, July, 17, 2007 8:06 AM" Inquiring minds want to know!

Re: your statement.."Here we go again. The platitudes. The stereotypes. But with an added dose of sycophancy and bootlicking." Where do you come up with this stuff? Nothing I, or anyone else replying to you fits your description! Are you getting desperate Bradford?

Ha ha ha ha.. Bradford, *WHAT is it?* that is the fault of those "shrill wymyn?" Did one of the blow up dolls in your fantasy world loose it's air? Is that the shrill sound you hear? In other words, What in the h*ll are you rambling about!? Have you ever met a REAL Woman? Would you recognize one if you came in contact with one?

Let me help you out here. Unlike the plastic, self-serving, phony, egotistical females of your fantasy world. A REAL woman is a tough, hard hitting, confident warrior that can stand on her own in reality against all comers! Her view of the world is based on absolute facts of nature! And she understands what life is all about! Her compassion for mankind cannot be matched! But at the same time, she'll take no bull sh*t from anyone! Especially from the whining it's "all about me" so-called feminist! These females are disgusting to REAL woman! And I might add, as a man, disgusting to me! The very thought of an immature adult female caught up in her own little "ME" world trying to come across as the savior of femininity. Is a sickening display of stupidity!

RB and PG

You got it! Atrocious behavior towards women by Muslim men. Ha! Purplegimp, yes, the female circumcision bit, horrors! That will put a woman in her place, right? Let's make sure those Muslim women never experience anything good sexually. Won't run off from their men that way.

Goshawk

LUD.

ROTFLMAO at your latest response to Bradford.

Bradford

The Hugh Hewitt/Robert Novak convo I found totally uninteresting. So, what's the problemo? Bush needs a good whack so I would think you'd agree with us shrill wymyn.

Nee

xpressit can tell you all about Islamberg. It's a nightmare and I've seen the video and pics on it.
Where the he** is Cherfoff's guts on that one?
Does Cherfoff have any guts other than a feeling in the pit of his gut. What was the feeling he had?
Tell us more Mr. Chertoff.

Goshawk

Thanks for referring to me and PG as real women. I'm so flattered. LUD

Chertoff's intestinal fortitude

“Does Cherfoff have any guts other than a feeling in the pit of his gut. What was the feeling he had? Tell us more, Mr. Chertoff.”

Right on, what was it?
Chertoff’s guts are out to lunch

Well, Pepp, we could guess the pit is leftover from a feeling he got that lettuce was going unpicked because they_have_to enforce the law. Actual “Guts” though does not strike me as synonymous with Chertoff.

He may have a gut that is afraid of not having lettuce, and has hunger pains for power and control. Other than that gut and Guts are not related in Cheroff. We still doubt his guts to enforce law, risking lettuce shortages. Unfortunately, just to function, he needs a Brown for a fall guy in case things get worse. (who will he blame?)

Nee: At least they aren’t a sovereign nation, anyway.

xpressit

LOL! You're cracking me up with that one. Lack of lettuce would really be a tragedy!

Pepp need a laugh...

Harry Reid,
STOP THIS CULTURE OF TORTURE on our government. Purposeful torture of Senators and holding them hostage is far beyond cruel and unusual. You torture them to get a vote out of them when facts prove we do not get useful information from abusive treatment.

Further Senator Reid; stop YOUR TORTURE OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. Your cruel punishment of the American people is unjust. You are withholding the government from the American people. Not since King George has anyone conspired so hard to keep government out of reach to the American people. 'To the Racks with You.'

Brad, that was lame

"Culture of life"? You ever -- EVER -- hear me talk about that?

I'll answer for you: No.

I'm more from the "kill 'em all and let God sort 'em out" school.

Amnesty International

The thing I love about AI is that they only ever report "abuses" by western countries that have a semblance of free speech. They never talk about the ones that really are abusing people. Could that be on account of they aren't even allowed into the very countries they should be reporting on?
Does anyone take them seriously? (besides themselves?)

Purplegimp

AI. The only people who take them seriously are the loony moonbats in this country and any other country that hates us and wants to blame us for everything. That would probably be every country in the ME.

AI is useless IMO because the real abuses going on are not even being inspected and you're probably right because they aren't allowed into those countries.

Pepp

Two new posts...and Brian, with ya 100% man!

Where's the Fight?

Where are the moderate Muslims? Perhaps there really aren't any. Islam doesn't allow for any moderation. It's a despotic 'religion' which borders on the definition of a 'death cult.' Its history since inception has been based on war, death, and the great ego of the Muslim being naturally superior to everyone else. So called 'moderate' Muslims [if you can find any] are really semi-Muslims, since to be 'moderate' or civil, they have to ignore much of the Islamic teaching.

People will joke about or ignore the problem of Islam at their peril. We always thought WWIII was to be nuclear. Well, it won't be. It'll be fought on the street corners, meeting places, and government buildings throughout the World. Personally, I'd rather fight it in Iraq.

tnmccoy asks

"Where are the moderate Muslims?"

The documentary Islam vs the Islamist says they're out there, but are being shushed, shunned or worse when they speak up. Then our MSM makes it worse by not giving them a opportunity to be heard.

Moderate Muslims?

I heard they both moved in to a condo in Atlanta.

lessons

Quiet moderates, as flying Imams sue those who opened their mouths.

moderate muzzies?????

Since the Koran COMMANDS all muzzies to kill, convert, or enslave ALL non-muzzies, that would mean that 'moderate' muzzies would be the ones who just want to enslave us.

Any muzzie who says otherwise is either a liar or a Muslim In Name Only.

An apology

I wish to express my apologies on behalf of the rest of Minnesota for unleashing the .. uhmm ... 'wisdom' of Ellison on the rest of the country.

But for what it is worth his District (Minnesota 5th) is basically Minneapolis. And if you ever visited here you know how Left Minneapolis is.

FYI.. there has been a deafening silence from the other DFL'rs here concerning Mr. Ellison's statements. (DFL - Democratic Farm Labor ... the Democratic party in Mn)

Yo Pepp

A little humor to start the week:

MOONBAT SIGHTING: The stoplight on the corner buzzes
when its safe to cross the street. I was crossing with an intellectually challenged coworker of mine. She asked if I knew what the buzzer was for. I explained that it signals blind people when the light is red.
Appalled, she responded, "What on earth are blind
people doing driving?!" She was a probation officer in Wichita , KS.

Pepp

I'm sure you must be busy, as you haven't been around for a few days. We've missed you!

It's time for my shameless plug for my new essay, this week entitled "GOP Enablers".

Guess what it's all about! LOL.

Where isPeppermint

Has anyone heard from Peppermint lately? I haven't heard from her in over week? Anyone know what's up?

Ok

genius. I heard the moon is made of green cheese too. Oooh. Scary Muslims. SO different from lil' ole' us!

"moderate muzzies?????
Since the Koran COMMANDS all muzzies to kill, convert, or enslave ALL non-muzzies, that would mean that 'moderate' muzzies would be the ones who just want to enslave us.

Any muzzie who says otherwise is either a liar or a Muslim In Name Only."

Sorry

Bradford dot, I don't know which is the first name. Maybe in the lull you could reread the previous post "reality vs. denial", appropriately enough. Or I can point you to some excellent propaganda that you may feel more comfortable with.

Bradford the Genius,

You say "Oooh. Scary Muslims. So different from lil ole' us."

What's this "us" crap!? Speak for yourself! You must live on that "green cheese moon." of yours. Your sure not of this world.

So, if you think the Muslims are no different than "you." Then you must believe in that degenerate old man who rapes 9 year old girls and calls himself a Prophet. But insists women cover themselves from head to toe. Raise your children to be suicide bombers. Beheading and torturing all who oppose you. Murdering your own family members for disobeying you. I could go on but you get the point.

Now, if you think the rest of America believes like you. Your truly insane!

Peppermint

Late to the party again...

Good piece here, and I agree. Its hard to tell whether or not a) moderate Muslims exist or b) if they do, they are simply afraid...

But until a voice of reason appears in their ranks (or until they are destroyed), they will continue on their crusade.

I think crusade is a good word to describe their tactics now...

Where's Pep?

Last time I heard from her, she was telling us how much she hates California. I sure hope that didn't lead to any consequences and repercussions.

Pepp

Are things okay with your son?

Pepp just remember;

"Your worst days are never so bad that you are beyond the reach of God's grace. And your best days are never so good that you are beyond the need of God's grace."

Unknown

Pepp

How ya doin'?
Here's an interesting atrocity story for you. When my dad was stationed at the US Embassy in Istanbul in the mid '70s, he started dating a young Turkish girl. When her parents found out that they were seeing each other, they told her that if she was ever seen with him again, they would disfigure her face so badly no one would want to have anything to do with her and they would abandon her on the street.
This from a so-called "moderate" Sunni country.

My prayers and thoughts are with you!

Hey Pepp, I heard on Nee's site that you are going through something rough with your son being ill. I really do hope things turn out for the better and that you have the love and support needed!

Best,

Squiddy

Peppermint

Check out my latest Blog Post! I KNOW YOU WILL GET A KICK OUT OF IT!

Pepp

Time for my usual shameless plug.

I just posted my long-awaited new essay at the Island. Come on down.....!

Yikes

Your site's turning into an announcement board for new blog essays!

don't eat the daisies

Aug 13,2007: DOCTORS and health workers have been banned from eating lunch at their desks - in case it offends their Muslim colleagues.
http://www2.dailyexpress.co.uk/printer/view/16309

Hey Pep....

...did you burn yourself out? Or just takin' a break. Or both. Myself I've really had to cut back. This writing gig is exausting and so time consuming. However! I do have a new post. If you get time stop by. DD

an excellent article

Peppermint.

I, cringe, LOL, was once a dues paying NOW member - dropped out due to a few differences - have no idea why they aren't raising h*ll, please don't forget tho that Bush seems to absolutely love the Saudis, home of alQueda & binladen.

And I like reading what Bradford has to say - rarely agree with him, but he's not abusive and makes me gather my thoughts.

I have of late turned into all that I once hated - a racist -> chuck out every muslim, send him/her back to Mecca. I give up, they are not tolerant or moderate, and can think of no valid reason for them to want to come to the West.

SHAMELESS PLUG ALERT

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